Swapping Tires On The CURSED Navi… What Could Go Wrong?!
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2023
- In true "cursed Navi" fashion, my first time changing tires went uhhh...as expected haha BUT I'm still stoked on the outcome and everything I learned along the way! Stay tuned for an update once I get to test out the new Michelin City Grip 2 tires to see how much they improve the Honda Navi!
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To explain the opposite directions for the tread, you have to think about the direction of the force applied to the tire. With the rear, the force applied to the tread is facing to the rear of the bike as the power is coming from the bike. With the front, since it's unpowered, the force is applied due to braking and is coming from the front. So you want the tread to point in the direction of the force application to shed water properly.
Very well explained man, makes TOTAL sense now! Thanks dude!! 🙌🏻🙏🏻
so maybe apllied force changes so a reverse tread would aid in dry traction, but in wet conditions reverse tread will evacuate water towards the center of the tread.
what about water wicking though? i was always taught that you orient the tires so they will throw water away from the wheel to promote traction.
so with the triangular pattern you see here, you want the point of the arrow to be the first part to hit the grought, so it will trouff the water away from the tire.
@@fairplayer916 Exactly. That's a good way to look at it, too. Also, think about what happens when the tire breaks traction, due to either braking (front) or acceleration (rear). You want the point of the triangle going opposite the direction the surface is moving under the tire. Sometimes it's hard to visualize from the perspective of the tire.
@@Tetz95 another way to say it is the tread points in the direction the tire should roll.
I think every diy motorcyclist has mounted a tire the wrong way at least once lol. Props for including it in the video. If you let your tires get hot in the sun or use a heat gun I’d hair dryer, it can help a ton
Just did this swap on the rear tire of my Navi. I, too, need to apologize to my neighbors for my foul language as I struggled to get that tire on the rim.
The City Grips are a great tire. Big difference! Thanks for the video!
I wanted to thank you Burch for this video and your other videos. We fitted up these same tires yesterday. They fit perfectly and are an improvement for sure. A quick tip is to loosen the rear exhaust bracket bolts so that the exhaust can be moved a little, and the rear tire slides right in.
Great video Burch 🤙🏽!!!
Over this last week I started doing research on getting my first bike, and when I stumbled across your channel your videos, and these navi series, have filled me with the Confidence to get my own first bike! Love the content bro
Dude, thank you for sharing that! So sick!! Thanks for watching bro, can’t wait to see you comment whenever you get your bike! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@@LifeOfBurch Its been done! A nice used grom. Its gonna need a bit of work, but I'm already so excited to be able to be out riding.
@@d4rk_L1nk ayy congrats dude!! 🙌🏻🎉🤘🏻
Do yourself a favor and buy a Monkey or a Grom instead. They're much better bikes!
@@lesheath6216 I did go for a grom! It’s been such a blast to learn to ride on.
I feel you on the rain man... lol I'm over in NOVA not too far away from there and same endless rain... just now able to get on an exhaust for my F900R
Great video boss! I be going through all the uploads fast!
I think the ending might just be the best way to end every video from now on Burch 🤣 seems therapeutic and fitting
I did it as a joke…but it was strangely relaxing 😂😂😂
Great video! It's gonna ride like a different bike now.
My local cycle shop swapped both my Navi tires for $20. Gotta make friends with the service department, lol. The last tire I had mounted on a different bike at a local auto shop. They did it for $20 and even put the wheel on the bike for me. PA for the win!
Thanks for this video! I heard the tires aren't good in rain, so I'm watching this to see what I need to do. ❤❤❤
thanks for sharing the amazon links to Order dude you rock🤘🏻
I've done car, motorcycle, and scooter tires. I think sometimes small ones are harder. Hard to stand on them and use a tire iron. The first few times you do it, it's pretty slow, but you'll get faster. You did great! It might sound crazy, and certainly dangerous, but sometime you will run into a tire with a bead that is really hard to break. You can use a c-clamp or you can jack up one wheel on your car using a floor jack, and carefully lower the car onto the tire with a hard to break bead. 'Ya 'gotta be careful, 'ya don't want to die changing a tire.
Mistakes are the best teacher. Thanks for posting it.
They’re like the teacher in high school that you always hated, but looking back you realize they just wanted the best for you 😂😂😂
Best thing about ripping it apart is wiping it all down and fresh. Nice wheels!
I remember my dad breaking the bead of car tires using the old school car jack. He'd jack the car up with the jack on the tire. This was back when people had dedicated winter tires. He'd swap them on/off each season. Balance them too with a bubble.
I know this is a old video, but thought id leave a bit of advice. a bit of dish soap and water mix works awesome as a lube to bead, de-bead, and leak check.
Same here in jersey. Been reining for a week and forecasted for another few days, been wanting to ride myself lol
I use City Grip 2 tires on my XMax scooter. Good tire! You can put some tape on the tire spoons to keep from scratching your rims. Thanks for the video. 👍
Good on you for admitting your mistake, in all honesty if you are fitting tyres for the first time an easy mistake to make. Your mistake should stop other inexperienced tyre fitters making the same error. As always a great video.
I’m definitely interested to see the end of this build 😮
4:41 you can’t go wrong with Michelin tires!!
My 2021 Z900 RS café is running Michelin Road 6 after I got rid of the factory tires. You will not be disappointed with the Michelin!!
I used the same video to change the rear tire on my Marauder. I couldn't believe the shovel thing would work but it did.
Great to see the false starts and thrashing around while learning. Makes me feel more normal.
Did the front tire fit without rubbing? Or did you have to shave anything off the front or rear?
Can you run the Michelin city grips with the stock fenders?
How does it ride with beefyer tires
I miss these Navi videos, especially the rides/adventures
Hey man! Any updates on these? Just bought my first bike, a Navi and I just don’t feel very planted on the stock tires. I wanna get these but was hoping you had an update how they worked out for you? Thanks!
Another great one! Sorry neighbors 😊
any update brother?
how do you like the tires? feel more stable/safe? handles better?
thanks Burch!
Hey bro I really like all your content. I found u looking for Navi mods. I have been thinking about color matching my rims (red). This deff makes me think to remove my old tires but maybe leave the re-mouthing to a pro.
Does the tire change give false speed on the odometer
As someone who used to work on cars for a living it is totally understandable that you put the tire on wrong because you are learning how to replace tires. Even the pros will do this from time to time because they are in a hurry and not paying attention. But now that you know I'm pretty sure in the future you will check the tires to make sure they go the right direction.
I completely understand the feeling like not riding in days because of rain lol. I live in Ohio been nonstop here as well.
Yea man this rain sucks! Maybe I just need to suck it up and buy rain gear 😂
We're can I get those tires
Ok many people will have different explanations for the direct of tread, but its simple. the tread of a tire is designed to push water away from the center as it rolls through water which is where you bike spends most of it time for good contact to the road.
What tire size please!! Both front and rear.
Put a very similar Yoshimura exhaust like your Navi on my XR150L today. Much lighter than the stock boat anchor, sounds great without being obnoxious..
very good compressor choice
A big clamp works great as a bead breaker😊
What im getting from this video is buy the tires on amazing and go to a shop to avoid the pain and headache
Are the sizes you picked the biggest tires the navi can fit with out any modifications? I do see you've removed the rear fender.
130 70 10 is largest for the rear
I wanted a Navi but now I am having second thoughts after seeing stock tires less beefy than what's on my Harbor Freight trailer.
Nice shovel.
love your content and navi videos could you do a passenger ride downtown on the new cursed navi?!?! would love to see the acceleration improvements with a passenger on it compared to the green one and if the beefed up rear shock makes the ride more comfortable for your girlfriend
Oh man I have to ride everyday really helps me mentally.
Awesome content! My Navi sometimes feels loose in the front end when going around corners. Do you think its the tires? Nothing else wrong with the bike. Only 550 miles on it.
Bring up your air pressure a bit
My father used to ride all the time but sold his motorcycle to help get his family started almost 30 years ago. I just started riding and it's breaking his heart that he can't go with me due to his neuropathy in his legs from being a type 2 diabetic. I've looked at these Navis now to see if maybe this could be a good option for him since theres no clutch involved. What do you guys think? He needs something with a lower seat height so that a 5'10" person can flatfoot, and an automatic motorcycle that won't break the bank.
How would you combat the 3 linkage cables that were in the plastic front fender loop from rubbing on the tire? More so with the bigger front tire, hopefully there is enough clearance where your brake cables won't rub against the front tire.
I'm staring at my Navi just now and it dawned on me.
I hope the bigger tires work out, I'm stoked to see them in action!
Can you do a video of a race between the Grom and the Navi before you let them go? Just a 100 yards or something haha. Would be cool to see the take off abilities in comparison.
I’ve been wanting to do a stock Navi vs modded Navi “race” for awhile, but I just don’t think it’ll happen before the bikes start going away 😔 Would definitely be sick to get the Grom in on it too though!
Motion Pro bead pro irons live on my bike. I have Harbor Freight 24" irons at the house.
Do you have an update on how these tires actually worked when you ride it? Video on the improved performance?
These tires have been INCREDIBLE! The only way I can describe it is that the Navi just feels so much more sure-footed and stable in every situation. I feel more confident around turns because it holds the line better and has more grip, it feels more stable at higher speeds, I’ve even done light off-roading with these tires and been impressed. If you’re on the fence, I can’t recommend these enough!!
Oh my god the last clip😂😂😂😂
I was going through some stuff 😅😭😂
There’s a great scooter shop by me that does small tires for 30 a piece as long as they’re off the bike. Look for a little used scooter shop for next time you’ll probably meet some cool people too
Not sure if you caught on to this when mounting the tires but there is a divit inside the rim that is you drop center and that is where you want the part of the tire that is already mounted sitting when mounting the rest of the tire makes it way easier to mount the tire hope this info helps
Thanks man! Yea that’s what I meant when I said something along the lines of the tire being in the “skinniest part of the wheel” or however I worded it lol definitely makes sense in theory, but it took me awhile to realize I needed my knee reeaaally holding the tire down in that part of the wheel the entire time. Once I realized that it became much easier! Quite the learning experience for sure 😂🤘🏻
Oh yeah quite the learning experience you did better than my first attempt I destroyed the rim before finding that out so good job
Sooo total pain in the butt but it was cool to watch you learn something new!!
Let’s see if you keep that same energy as I’m screaming and cussing swapping that rear tire around today 😂😂😂😭
@@LifeOfBurch oh my gosh😂😂
Lol! I've made every mistake you can make doing my own tires but it's been totally worth it. Of course, easy to say since I'm not currently drenched in sweat and throwing a tantrum in my hot garage... 🤣
On the plus side, I've gotten a little less "bad" at doing them each time!
Oh, and don't forget to pay yourself a little for saving some money!
I have a feeling Burch devours every penny he saves doing his own labor on 🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮!!
*Tinkerbell is named Burch!*
Put about 4-6oz of Slime in them. It can help with balance and seal leaks.
smaller tires are harder to DIY mount than the big ones. i can do my 21 inch dirt bike wheel in no time or my fz1 but the grom i have to battle with lol i learned that the hard way. the best thing to do is get friendly with a mom and pop shop owner or something like that. my guy doesnt charge me to mount tires half the time becuase i get im alot of buisness lol then my buddy bought a tire machine for like 4k delivered and he just wants an excuse to use it lol. my michalline power pure tires have the same tread thing. the front is opposite direction from the rear, its weird and makes you second guess while mounting lol they gotta throw you off some how.
Lmao i feel your pain. We’ve all done it, ok maybe not all of us.
Same here man rain all week
It’s the worst! Finally cleared up today, but supposed to start back up tomorrow I think 😭
@@LifeOfBurch same I went out and filmed 3 videos today so I’ll have them in case of a raining day.
One issue, both tires are mounted backwards, the way the sipes are aligned, it will channel water to the center of the tire and cause hydroplaning
Stupid rain keeping you from riding. Living in PA I understand that this week. I am not riding because I am trading my bike, hopefully this week, for the 2023 1100T.
Ayy how exciting!! Congrats on the soon-to-be new bike! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
I went with kendra tires yeahh
Love your tattoo's
It is really hard to make fun of a guy who figures out mistake at 11:30PM.....
Ooooops. Wait till Righty Righty turns into Righty Loosely!!!
pretty sure the arrow it points is the direction the tire turns when ur moving
They really didnt want the job that shop. I usually charge about 20dollar each for smal to medium tubeless tires. Does not include balance. It's a 10 min job to replace 2 tires with the right equipment.
Maannn $20 per tire and done in 10 mins…why don’t you live around me?! 😂
Well, to me they are both backwards. The tread should shed/push water away from center. That was what I was taught even with bicycle tires to help reduce hydroplaning. JMO Stay Safe
That’s what I would’ve assumed too, which is what made me start questioning it as I was editing the video and actually paying attention to the tread pattern instead of the arrows. But I guess Michelin knows what they’re doing 🤷🏼♂️
Front tire correct rear tire wrong. However with bicycle tires, front tire is wrong
@@bizrker5148 I'm going to bank on this being keyboard satire that doesn't come across in a thread posting.
@@bizrker5148 not according to Michelin! Only the rear is backwards. Even the pictures on their website show that. Doesn’t make sense to me either, but who am I to tell Michelin they’re wrong 😂 Thanks for watching dude! 🤘🏻
@@karlfonner7589 correct…confusing, but correct 😂
Lol. Mistakes are only chances to learn Mike. Everyone has them. Huge props to you for posting this anyways. Keeps you real and down to earth.
Keep killing it brother. Well done!!
Edit: you know you will not melt in the rain right? 😂
Yea but like…where am I gonna ride in the rain?! I don’t have a job to ride to and anything worth doing in the rain is worth doing in a car. Although I do feel like I have to ride in the rain for a few hours just to feel what everyone felt coming to my meetup 😂😂😂
@@LifeOfBurch exactly!! Now go play in the puddles! Lol
I'm literally about to do my 10" scooter tires today. Shop wanted over $200 to change them so I said screw it and bought the tire spoons and rim guards to do it myself. I already know it's going to be a pain in the ass but I'm not paying more than the tires are worth to mount them.
Sheeeesh $200 is crazy!! If there’s anything I learned, it’s to use A LOT of windex or soap to keep things slippery, and make sure you really drive your knee into the tire to hold the part that’s already seated into the lowest point of the wheel as you work the tire around. The video that helped me most is linked in the description. Good luck dude!! 🤘🏻
A lot of shops put tires on wrong as well so ain’t nothing there
Nothings worth doing once that you can't do again.
19 and a 14 goddamn I havent seen mix and match parts since 1990s era GM cars
8:27 Giggity.
I was *so* close to putting a “that’s what she said” right there 😂😂😂
Almost 6 inches in the last four days here
That’s what she said.
(Sorry, I couldn’t resist 😅😂)
both tires are backwards. as it sits the tread pattern will evaccuate water to the center (hello hydroplaning). from the top down view, your tread should form arrows pointing to the front.
That was my logic as well, but only the rear is backwards. There are comments here that explain it better than I could.
Back in my Automotive class, tires were the absolute worse. I couldn't and still can't do it. I'd rather take the wheel off and take it to the shop or just drop my bike off. I absolutely HATE tires.
The worse where the people who put the tires with less than an inch of sidewall on giant rims. The thinner that sidewall the harder it is to put a tire on that wheel. 🙃
Yea man this was definitely NOT the most fun I’ve ever had…can’t wait to have to do it again for the rear 😂😂😂😭😭😭
Don't beat yourself up. I've put my rear tire on backwards on my bicycle more than once!
they’ve all made that backwards tire install mistake once! Lol. But usually only wants to because doing the job twice sucks so bad we never want to make that mistake again.
Also, the audio levels between your microphone and the bass, heavy background track, super whack.
I got my volume up so I can hear you nice and clear, then your background music kicks in and blows out my woofers
I like how you have is facing the wall as if destruction a punishment I just purchased one that got injured on one accelerator raced right off the battery died down no starting the shipment I don't even know where to begin throwing me up and down hills into the ground racing off Willie and me as a disabled strange disgusting smells and so much more I've never hit 60 mi an hour with the stock tires when I tried to do with a 50 on the bed strip like kedzie Street in Chicago I became swept to the side of the curb and told throwing me up and down hills into the ground racing off Willie and me as a disabled strange disgusting smells and so much more I've never hit 60 miles an hour with the stock tires and when I tried to do with a 50 on the bed strip like kids extremely Chicago I became swept to the side of the curb and told nahh nahh. Not today I went to the attorney general on Honda for selling me a piece of s*** that a retailer in berrington Illinois and I'm waiting to hear word from him it's starting up but now when I hit the accelerator throttle on the right side it's cutting off and shutting off dying like someone's something is contaminating my bike and like it's refusing to go so I'm not riding my nav eye infection from the sell it and I love it or something to get rid of it another bike
Just a suggestion, don’t let your brake drum hang by the lines when you do things like this. It puts stress on the fittings and the lines. We always just hook a little bungee cord or something in it and hang it back up on the handlebars just to keep the stress off everything. You live and you learn from experience! Love your vids!
It’s not a hydronic brake lol
@@Symbiiotic I’m assuming you meant hydraulic. Regardless, it’s not good to let the weight of everything hang by the line, no matter the type.
At least it was the rear tire which is easier to remove 😄.
I love the optimism dude! Already got it swapped to the right direction! 😬🤘🏻
@@LifeOfBurch Does that mean we get a ride video coming soon? 👀
The Jankie life of Burch lol simple is the way to go.
this is why we pay a shop to mount tires
Ya know next time I just might 😂
wow so sorry the design team made confusing tires. thats on michelin smh
Definitely a confusing design, but now that I know how it works, it makes sense I guess. Lesson learned for next time! 🤘🏻
The build quality of them Navi`s is not worth the Nonda brand.
Does this count as preparation for the scooter cannon ball? You know you wanna....
I don’t know if I have the cajones for all that 😂😂😂
Successful failure, as long as you learned from it. Which you did obviously!
Bro is thicc
I salute you for pronouncing “Navi” the correct way! It’s NOT Nah-vee, people! 😂🎉
You can thank Nintendo for that one
all natural Windex ew
Send it back to the factory get it repaired or replaced wasting too much time
Betcha 10-1 he's renting that place..Akso bet the landlord would cringe if he watched this trananspire in "his" house and on his rug...
Omg ur voice is like nails on a chalkboard
1st
Let’s gooo!!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Why do you talk so much with your hands ? I've never seen anyone use hands soooo much
I just can't see the point in wasting the money on one of these. They really are useless to me, just my 2 cents worth.