Simon Jordan CLASHES With Danny Murphy Over His DEFENCE Of Jermaine Jenas's Referee Criticism! 🔥
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2023
- As Danny Murphy defends Jermaine Jenas for his criticisms of referees, he and Simon Jordan clash over his comments.
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Simon’s expressions over Danny calling Jenas a “super smart” and “deep thinker” 🤣
As much a ''super smart'' & a ''deep thinker'' as my beautiful little cat....
it's on par with his reaction to when somebody on the show said the manager Rooney is "a student of the game"
He was stumped when Danny queried his 97% bullshit. Even Simon thought 🤔 ‘actually that does sound made up’
HAHAHHAA that was brilliant 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imagine Simon saying every criticism should be constructive.
Jenas's football commentaries have personally ruined more matches for me than any amount of referee decisions.
Jim is such a windup merchant 😂
Thank you I can’t stand the creep
I like his facial expressions🤣🤣🤣
Jordan’s cheerleader
Welcome to a world where criticism is a crime
So is honesty.
Is it a crime to criticise Jenas' criticism?
@@Support-your-local-teamcriticising the criticism is fine. If you are prepared to grovel and apologise when one random person doesn’t like it.
Agree sir world has gone mad
If there was ever time to walk the planet with four heads , six legs 60 fingers ,
Nows the time where we can't even have a slight glance
While the government and people in charge in general commit crimes and nothing gets said or done 😅
Give the guy a break he’s not wrong. The refs are forever getting decisions wrong even with the help of VAR
Then don't take the job in the campaign
Then say the guy is a poor ref but dont call him a swear word. It's a bloody difficult job.
Fairy’s will tell you, they get more rights than wrong, but I bet you they are done with the offside rule which is a factual situations
👍🏾
@@osr4152 Difficult job? Get back to your toys and don't touch daddy's computer again.
You know you’ve hit the pits when people have to constantly apologise for their obvious opinion
Simon’s eyebrows at “super smart” and “deep thinker” soooo funny
I completely agree with Danny saying about the 97 percent success rate, who decides it’s a successful decision?
The more I watch of this show, the more I like Danny Murphy. You two desperately ganging up on him and he usually comes out looking classier and better.
He comes across well here.
He holds his own and Jim is just a back up dancer for Simon.
Simon absolutely batters everyone on here he becomes very personal on hundreds of occasions and for him to criticise pundits is laughable.
- agreed.....it gets a bit grating at times and sounds like a continuous whine. He needs to wind it in a bit......Danny here is making some valid points.......
@@neilgoodyer9606he also owned a club 🙄😂
Has Simon slept with your husband again, Gavin?! 🙄
@@paulmanchip8116to be fair to him, completely self-made and OWNED his boyhood club. Also knows his own mind and does not tolerate bullsh*t. Also not a fan of the feelings over facts perspective that a lot of 'men' seem subscribe to.
Seems like a sound bloke to me.
simon hilarious if you sent him a happy birthday card he would find it offensive
Jin and Simon are talking as if they've never said anything bad about the refs.😂
Simon is so bitter when it comes to footballers
Dear GOD could you guys give Danny the time of day to get his point across. Bloody hell man
Waffles
"Sniveling self serving sudo apology"....absolutely bang on. Jenas has been made to look very very silly. Simon just sticking the blade in a little further
“Sudo”
Psue, psue psuedio!
Pseudo.
Remember when Simon “constructively criticised” Eddie Hearn about something that Simon made up and then refused to admit it.
😂😂😂😂 I remember that
Pepperidge farm remembers
I actually like Danny Murphy more and more with each appearance on this show.
And…
He's well out of his depth. Murphy has nothing to bring to the table.
@@AlaninValleSanLorenzopersonally I think he’s pretty bang on about most things they talk about, Jim and Simon can’t argue with the person across the table it’s the always the players, agents, managers, entitled fans or ppl these days.
What are you on !! He is permanently deluded 😂😂
@@AlaninValleSanLorenzo out of his depth go suck! Man played at the highest level. What qualifies these two pundits? Long words and sleaze from the wind up merchant to his left
Why is it when Simon interacts with Danny he talks like a 1940s Headmaster grilling a naughty year 7 lad 😂
Murphy had some good one liners in this, actually made me laugh. Fair play
I think Danny owned it. Well played mate, keep calm and don’t let Simon fluster you with his Thesaurus. He was lost for words at times and was plucking feathers.
Must be the only segment where Simon has not tried to “square that circle”…..well played Danny lad.
We can all see way JJ refused to be interviewed by Simon or Jimbo with tough questions for him. Unlike Goldstein & Bent in yesterday Drive show with only a minute debate.
It wasn’t even a debate. It was a couple of golfing mates having a laugh and brushing it all aside.
Probably the best decision, he’d be better not “ going viral” with Simon Jordan and try to silence it asap
@@alexbelotti1603 The best decision for his PR, yes.
Jenas would fold under Simons intelligence like a melted mars bar
Simon Jordan is morphing into Darren Farley's impersonation of him.
So stopping a goal bound shot is not a handball offence leading to a penalty because it wasn't deliberate? Make it make sense. It was a clear hand-ball and I don't see why there's any debate on it.
Not if it deflects off another part of your body
Nothing you can do if the ball is blocked by your leg and deflects to your hand, you cant do anything about that
It wasnt a pen
For me it’s the proximity. What is Romero to do at that pace of the ball that close to his body? I’m surprised he didn’t raise his hands to his face, I know I would have cause it was blasted.
Here just to watch Simon's facial expressions during this. The guy can't hide his thoughts 🤣🤣
Same..radio hides so much 😂
Simon lost this argument for a change
Danny is getting better I can't lie
when talking about referees he always loses
@@ThatGuy-tx4vm 'he' is Simon or Danny, please?
@@forearthbelow simon
Every season FIFA and UEFA update the rules of the game. Every season all they achieve is to over complicate the rules. Danny Murphy is right, simplify the rules by taking subjectivity out of it! Make all decisions black or white. If the ball touches the hand then it is hand ball, no room for interpretation! The fact the referee does not have to explain his decisions is compounding the issue. The entire VAR process audio should be broadcast live in real time!
Then you will have players deliberately playing the ball against a defender's hand - similar to the way they kick the ball out for a corner/throw in and they play it off the opposition player. It's called the law of unintended consequences.
Also there would be incidents where it would be questionable (IE subjective)whether it hit the hand ... was it the wrist, did more of the ball hit the hand than the arm ... you'll always have some subjectivity.
Simon has bias against anyone on bbc. He was the same over the top with Liniker. But talk about Bohley or Levy, then he is all excuses
So Jenas is not allowed criticise referees??? Crazy
Jim is far up the PGMOL’s backside it’s unreal. Whenever subjectivity or Danny brings up a point of consistency, he cuts him off and does not let him explain. Bloke says the handball rule is easy, and then says it’s up to interpretation, to which everyone’s is different
Jim is such an instigator 😂😂😂
“You called them thick so you can pipe down” 😂😂
Danny destroying simon😂
Simon, true narcissist in the very sense of the word.
The fact that his eyebrows raised when JJ was described as a deep thinker tells you all that you need to know.
In his mind no one can possibly be considered intelligent because that detracts from his overinflated view of himself.
We don't expect refs to get it write every time.. but we expect them to spot the howlers every one else across the nation spots every week🤷♂
'Write' instead of 'right' is a bigger howler than any refereeing decision
@@deanpartridge5893that’s funny, u beat me to it 🤣
"A snivelling, self-serving, sudo apology", love it.
Why do they bother doing these segments? Just 10 minutes of Simon and Jim talking over Danny as per usual.
Danny Murphy is spot on
First win for Danny in this long *Simon v Danny: The Pundit Wars* series.
And a proper win.
Simon is being absolutely ridiculous.
Last couple of weeks have been filled with shocking decisions & mainly INCONSISTENT decisions.
The same way players get criticised by pundits, referees should be open to the same criticisms!
You've totally missed the entire point if you think anyone disagrees with you. Not a single person saying pundits can't criticise referees. Calling someone a shithouse is not criticism. When was the last time you heard a pundit calling a player a shithouse.
@@wattersdr everyone knows that is out of order. That is not the point I'm making! The general consensus of criticism of referees! Seems that we have to be seen to be helping them than criticise their glaring errors! Regarding Jenas specifically, it was wrong what he said, but we can't all sit here and say we don't agree!
If it was at the other end Jenas would have been screaming for handball and a penalty
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Wrong
Simon is the best thing about Talksport without a doubt, but he’s wrong frequently and can be a hypocrite
They always make the thumbnails look like they are going at it hammer and tong and it’s always either heated or a clash.
I expect every call to be right with the ability to watch the replay over and over
Danny, watch some of the Rugby World Cup. Then let’s have this conversation.
Well said Danny
Simon ‘exception to the rule’ Jordan
Not a single English referee was invited to the last World Cup. That tells you all you need to know.
8:15 78 cameras run by 150 people in control rooms for sky. VAR officials there’s 3 of them rushing to find the right angle. VAR officials need to focus on rules and media professionals need to work with them operating the equipment
Maybe the referees parents should come out and defend them 🤣
He’s absolutely right that the handball rule is too complicated and simultaneously vague. If a player is trying to use their hand, or if their hand is in a position that it shouldn’t be, based on basic human physiology of balancing. Everyone knows where a players hand should be when their running, sliding, falling, etc, and we get to watch it in super slow motion from 10 different angles. If their arm is in a place it shouldn’t be, or if the player tries to use their hand, it’s handball. That simple lol
It's generally not the Ref of the game that fans get exasperated over, but the ones who are paid to review the VAR Decisions & consistently make extremely incorrect ones to the point that Millions of people watching disagree with them, not just the fans who are wronged.
Furthermore, they're inconsistent and for the exact same incident playing out in the same League, sometimes a couple weeks apart, often on the same day & more often than it should in the same game & being given as 2 different decisions after reviewing it on VAR is bordering on cheating, nevermind incapability.
VAR was brought in to help referees get the correct decisions, and being used properly it does, however it's severely MIS-USED and there are simple ways to stop this mis-use and also communicate to fans what the decisions are and why.
There are also several ways that consistency can be added to VAR Decisions. One way I believe VAR could be improved is with a rule-knowledgeable panel that vote on decisions, but many decisions could be made to improve it and to stop riling fans up.
The refs are crap in England. And the VAR are worse. How can VAR make worse decisions than the refs?
Usually agree with Simon, not on this occasion however, Danny was spot on
What a rough watch, Just speaking over him when hes providing a perfectly reasonable well thought out opinion
It's jumpers for goal posts and propostoures
I for one am glad that the FA and the Prem are employing the visually impaired. No idea how those fellas get to the grounds and make it home after matchday, but, well, good on them for being resourceful.
As soon as Murphy said “JJ” I stop listening to what he was saying.
He was laughing before the 'apology' though...
Change the title as you always put they CLASH 😂 we plan to watch the video anyway so don’t worry about click bait
Love Simon and how honest he is however, recently I think he's been listening to his own hype too much and seems to think he must create some sort of argument for arguments sake
he isn't honest. He is paid off to support referees no matter what
@@ThatGuy-tx4vm possibly
@@rfurms this is what they did in italy during calciopoli. Media supporting refs that made dubious decisions. Later on those refs were found out to be taking direct orders on who to help or not.
What did he say and do
"JJ to you Danny" 😂 Love Jim sometimes.
Handball needs to just be handball - if it hits your hand it hits your hand. In all decisions, subjectivity needs removing, intent needs removing.
Simon said Jaden Sancho should apologise and move on , what's the difference here ?
Says Simon who never criticised anybody before.
They always do Simon wrong in the thumbnails 😂😂
What does “our game” really mean? Souness uses that phrase quite a lot.
We need AI to referee, then we can all happily express our rage against the machine
Simon & Jim should give Danny more chance to speak. This show has been brilliant, comedy gold ! 😂.
This!
VAR is joke simple should get football players 1 fullback and 1 Forward Also 1 referee to look at screens and different angles
Jim looking to Simon for help 😂
Simon not letting someone speak , shock
Ugly thumbnails of Jordan are gold. Keep em coming he’ll hate it 😂
Jenas thought it so he said it..
What’s that got to do with the price of cheese
If you can’t get away with saying shithouse then we are all fucked. 😆
Simon you got slapped here xD
How about you respect the officials decision regardless of your opinion
Sneaky can be VAR job or / and missed 6:20
I personally think the problem is that there is no perfect science for handballs in the penalty area.
There is, generally, a result to a handball that “feels” right. What we want is for the referee to come to the decision that “feels” right, rather than have a binary ‘is / isn’t’.
Thats rich coming from simon. Didnt he say maguire turns like an ocean liner.
Please tell me I did not just hear jim white say "does there need to be an attitude change by pundits because like never before the referees are doing a damn good job" please tell me I misheard that! 😭🤣 Jim has got too be trolling.
If the officials were respected then we wouldn't have had VAR in the first place....
People didnt like it when it was "The Referee's decision is final"... Hence why they brought in VAR 🤷🏾♂️
lol remember when jose called arsen wenger " a specialist in failure".. no one cared about wengers feelings.. these referees are super protected.. so what if you call them out..
Jim are you all there ?😢
I saw the thumbnail and thought…UNAGI
He is a footballer, what do you expect, they are not the brightest of the population.
Talksport always tries to make Simon look bad with the thumbnail
Choose his words ...does he still think the Dambusters are Infamous ?
Jermaine Jenas made the apology but didn't delete the offending post that says it all. I preferred the game before the introduction of VAR, yes refs made mistakes but as Simon was eluding to most of the time the ref gets the calls right. Just like everyone else there are days where we just cannot do anything right no matter how hard we try. Fortunately, a season is determined over 30+ games and not in individual moments. What has changed over the decades is people attitudes and the players. Could you imagine players back in the 80's falling over feigning injury to get an opponent sent off or booked, players winding down the clock by running the ball into the corner and sitting on the ball. Players are quick to jump all over the refs for making errors, but they are the reason for VAR. Players need to take a long hard look at themselves and the attitude and stop cheating, stop rolling on the ground like your leg has been cut off and man the F**K up. Stop attacking like a two-year-old who believes someone has stolen your favorite toy. It is good to see refs clamping down on time wasting and I really hope the next thing is punishing players for feigning injury or diving, I would punish both with an immediate red.
Pundits should be able to view their own opinions rightly or wrongly we don’t need to agree with them …
There's more to Simon then "clashing" every day, he's become an evolution of AFTV. Switch it up guys....
i have had this conversation with my buddies for the loongest time. my argument is plain white and black; Did the ball touch the hand?...its a penalty! period. intentions,deliberate and all those names wont matter. otherwise we will continue running in circles😂
Absolutely dreadful idea. Players will actively kick it purposely at someone's arm..
Is this the new Russel Brand story of the week
Was today pile on Danny Murphy day at talksport? The referees keep on making the same mistakes season on season so we have every right to criticise them. What have Jim and Jordan been smoking
But what jenus said makes him a hypocrite the woke nob.
Everyone agrees the language he used wasn't appropriate, but coming here and calling him a 'woke nob' just makes you look a right tit
Jim seems to be a bit cocky lately..Seems in love with Simon..❤❤❤
So Simon and Jim think these stupid refs should be bulletproof
Refs making good decisions? Does Jim white actually watch the game? Complete 🤡🤡
There are too many young pundits to be honest.