IT'S A STUPID ARGUMENT! 😡 Simon Jordan & Agent Sky Andrew CLASH Over FIFA's Limitations on Agents

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  • @mewe1771
    @mewe1771 10 місяців тому +84

    If this guy is a top agent, how bad must the others be...

    • @jtmmmm27
      @jtmmmm27 10 місяців тому +2

      Their biggest role is to massage the players egos.

    • @nicholascannon5001
      @nicholascannon5001 10 місяців тому +1

      Spot on

    • @beejj6190
      @beejj6190 10 місяців тому

      The point is if the agents are regulated / paid by the footballers their cut will be less. That's the real issue, lol.

  • @mojy77mm
    @mojy77mm 10 місяців тому +91

    Well done Simon. Utter nonsense from the agent

    • @beejj6190
      @beejj6190 10 місяців тому

      ?? So the Scots guy asks a specific question. Sky gives his opinion. Jordan ignores the question (and answer) and a says Sky is being irrelevant (and goes of on another one of his idotic coke -fuelled rants). Perhaps you should listen and stop being a Jordan -sheep.

  • @alexlanemusic
    @alexlanemusic 10 місяців тому +233

    Glad Simon cut through the nonsense. I’m sure Simon learned something, and more importantly, so did we.

    • @G_Hump3z
      @G_Hump3z 10 місяців тому +21

      Anyone else read this in Simon’s voice?

    • @Harry-mj6tq
      @Harry-mj6tq 10 місяців тому +3

      Can't tell you how much this comment made me smile - constantly have that intro going around in my head

    • @VR46314
      @VR46314 10 місяців тому +7

      Nosunsche

    • @xjkdx
      @xjkdx 10 місяців тому +1

      agents don't have a monopoly on the market, nor should they. There should be limits because it affects the entire game not just the players and agents. Capitalism at its best.

    • @Motownisyourtown
      @Motownisyourtown 10 місяців тому

      ​@@VR46314Nosunshe

  • @matthewwells1817
    @matthewwells1817 10 місяців тому +81

    I feel sorry for simon sometimes, trying to talk to these people.

    • @steaustin8789
      @steaustin8789 10 місяців тому

      Clone

    • @AOK342
      @AOK342 10 місяців тому +1

      @@MW92.Eddie Hearn put Simon in his place. You would be hard pressed to find someone who think as highly of themselves as Simon.

    • @stephengreen6683
      @stephengreen6683 10 місяців тому

      For once I felt sorry for Simon. That was the most embarrassing discussion- we never even got to a single point from the other two that made any sense at all.
      Jim / Agent - forget agency fees neither should be paid for that drivel

  • @garyjohnson264
    @garyjohnson264 10 місяців тому +31

    Are we sure Sky isn't the taxi driver the BBC thought was an IT expert for a live interview?

  • @tonylawlor8833
    @tonylawlor8833 10 місяців тому +20

    Simons argument has always been who pays the agents, not what they earn, it should be the players that pay their own agents, just like any other agent/client relationship, like for instance Actors. At the moment the clubs foot the bill and thus the fans.

    • @pascalthe8th66
      @pascalthe8th66 10 місяців тому +1

      100%. Thats the normal way for every agent relationship in sports or business in general. Why is it different in football?? Pure greed from agents bleeding clubs.

    • @adtastic1533
      @adtastic1533 10 місяців тому

      It's a nonsense argument. If the player has to pay his agent he will just ask for more money. The club still pays the same. At the end of the day it's not our money it's not our business. Stop trying to take money out of people's wallet.

  • @MrSrimera
    @MrSrimera 10 місяців тому +29

    It's all about greed at the end of the day, and the fans finish up paying.

  • @garytaf
    @garytaf 10 місяців тому +20

    Players should pay agents not clubs

    • @thrilla72
      @thrilla72 10 місяців тому +2

      I mean...then the players would increase their wage demands to compensate

    • @Alex123491996
      @Alex123491996 10 місяців тому +3

      @@thrilla72then the clubs tell them to get fucked, this might finally make players chose between their club and their snake agent

    • @Jim90117
      @Jim90117 10 місяців тому

      You think that bill wouldn't be passed on by the player?

  • @aspursy7826
    @aspursy7826 10 місяців тому +48

    Sky ain't got a clue. Simon just rinsed him 😂

    • @sonark289
      @sonark289 10 місяців тому +1

      BS thats why Jim had to step in as Simon as just talking lol

    • @ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx
      @ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx 10 місяців тому

      ​@@sonark289Coward 🙄

    • @Rayunicorn1
      @Rayunicorn1 10 місяців тому

      You don’t know what you’re talking about?

    • @ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx
      @ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Rayunicorn1 Clown commenter Ray is here on another comment 🤣🤡

    • @Rayunicorn1
      @Rayunicorn1 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx Better to be a clown than a confused fish.

  • @charliehill2464
    @charliehill2464 10 місяців тому +29

    Jim didn’t like the idea of a limit on what he can earn. Changed his tune quick 😂

    • @sixfootsosa4466
      @sixfootsosa4466 10 місяців тому +4

      Thats for sure

    • @kernowchris
      @kernowchris 10 місяців тому

      Jim would have buggered off to Saudi if they needed a tv host.

    • @saint8471
      @saint8471 10 місяців тому

      Lol

  • @nadeemamode
    @nadeemamode 10 місяців тому +5

    "World class advice"? Plenty of players have made the wrong moves because the agents pushed for the wrong moves

  • @frankford1115
    @frankford1115 10 місяців тому +5

    The player should pay the agent. Easy. Why is this an issue at all? Why should anyone pay the players advisor? Why do clubs deal with them?

    • @lawmantheonetrueking3739
      @lawmantheonetrueking3739 10 місяців тому

      Totally agree Frank but the way it seems to work is: Agent: Mr Club you can have this player you desperately want for x as long as you give me y. Club: Okay. Deal done. The only way to change this is for FIFA to make a law that all agents have to prove they have been paid by their client, i.e. the player. Sadly even if FIFA could make this stick we know their track record for brown envelopes.

  • @cygnus3632
    @cygnus3632 10 місяців тому +5

    Football is getting beyond a joke with the amount of money going around.

    • @pooriaansari1674
      @pooriaansari1674 10 місяців тому +1

      nope, not football but the fans/those who are feeding it up!

  • @pamjohn1814
    @pamjohn1814 10 місяців тому +59

    Sky clearly has his agenda

    • @albertbrammer9263
      @albertbrammer9263 10 місяців тому +6

      Yeah, make as much money for himself as possible.

    • @ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx
      @ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx 10 місяців тому +1

      *Sly

    • @Rayunicorn1
      @Rayunicorn1 10 місяців тому +1

      Why, whose agenda would you prefer for him to have? Yours?

    • @hbos9709
      @hbos9709 10 місяців тому

      ​@Rayunicorn1 what? Sky is clearly angling for a job position at fifa . Seems sky asked you to deflect for him

    • @ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx
      @ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx 10 місяців тому

      @@Rayunicorn1 Ray has his unicorn horn pointing firmly in Sly's direction 🙄

  • @morriscox6595
    @morriscox6595 10 місяців тому +9

    All About The Money, The Whole Game Is Corrupted

  • @tajudeennuhu720
    @tajudeennuhu720 10 місяців тому +6

    Simon is spot on

  • @HuntsDown
    @HuntsDown 10 місяців тому +3

    No top agent would go on Talksport and embarrass themselves like this, surely

  • @stnbch3025
    @stnbch3025 10 місяців тому +3

    Why the f*ck should a club pay the employee of the player?

  • @jackramsden9346
    @jackramsden9346 10 місяців тому +3

    The same thing happened with the NBA with them trying to make sure agents have a degree and relevant qualifications to stop Rich Paul from having a monopoly on the sport.

  • @LifeAtSea50
    @LifeAtSea50 10 місяців тому +12

    Simon’s hatred of Football Agents is fairly obvious 😂

    • @zcyf3211
      @zcyf3211 10 місяців тому +3

      It was hilarious to listen to cause it only fuelled him to disregard any points made. You gotta link Simon with facts and common sense or you’ve lost your argument before you start it 😂

  • @JackJackJack123
    @JackJackJack123 10 місяців тому +2

    In USA the agent is restricted to approx 3.5% of the contract that they negotiated and that’s that. No financial incentive for agents to move players. Works just fine.

  • @billybobthornton9668
    @billybobthornton9668 10 місяців тому +31

    Sky's argument about so-called 'double taxation' revealed exactly what motivates him!
    "Oh no, we can't tax the footballer and then tax the money they spend on agent fees - that would mean I get less money!!!"😱😱😱😱
    What, like almost every other transaction that takes place in society? I'm beyond dismayed at the absolute cheek of this man, especially considering what he must be earning 🤦

    • @glover424
      @glover424 10 місяців тому +3

      Spot on, it's like any joe bloggs on the street when he gets paid his wages and buys something immediately after. its taxed 😂

    • @1980redkremlin
      @1980redkremlin 10 місяців тому +1

      I don't know how Sky Andrews is successful as an agent but he's an awful broadcaster. I don't understand any of his points

    • @billybobthornton9668
      @billybobthornton9668 10 місяців тому

      @@1980redkremlin I mean, I suppose broadcasting is a different skillset to corporate negotiations, but it doesn't seem like he's the most articulate bloke. His comments give the impression that he views agents as a closed club which suggests success as an agent comes down to who you know, rather than how good you actually are at negotiating deals 🤷

    • @1980redkremlin
      @1980redkremlin 10 місяців тому +2

      @billybobthornton9668 Yes, but he should say that shouldn't he? Obviously he doesn't want to upset any of hid industry buddies which is fair enough. But at the very least, if you're going to dance around the subject...learn to dance!

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335 10 місяців тому +7

    Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

    • @lfcspectre4335
      @lfcspectre4335 10 місяців тому +1

      @@MW92. The Jordanite Leader Himself OG MW = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

  • @perryx7103
    @perryx7103 10 місяців тому +16

    lol this guy showed the level of competance the agents have. I would of expected agents to be lawyer level education or something. Its contracts and tax dealings etc. Problem is you have dimwits working with kids enticing them and then working out how they can get them payday to.

  • @lemons1986
    @lemons1986 10 місяців тому +4

    Simon and Sky both make good points.
    Ultimately matters such as these aren’t decided on a basis of “fairness.” They are negotiated ruthlessly according to positions of leverage.
    Sadly, most of the public has been infantilized to the point that this ruthlessness - this steadfast pursuit of self interest - is considered anathema.
    As a result, it is impossible to have an open & honest conversation about issues like this in a public forum, for fear of outrage and backlash.
    Simon and Sky are two brilliant & experienced businessmen and interlocutors more than capable of hashing out their differences on this issue in a coherent manner.
    However, in a public forum, the naive notion of what “should” be done crowds out the more realistic discussion regarding what SHALL be done.
    Remember this the next time you hear someone cry about business dealings being conducted with a lack of transparency.

  • @parz6917
    @parz6917 10 місяців тому +11

    Omg… and millions going out of the game to these parasites.
    Players should pay their agents full stop.

  • @ianharris9081
    @ianharris9081 10 місяців тому +8

    Couldn't listen to that had to switch it off. Simon Jordan just likes to talk over people and doesn't let them finish off there points but he'll make sure whatever point he's got to make everyone has to listen, it's getting boring now

  • @jonhayes7322
    @jonhayes7322 10 місяців тому +3

    SJ: “I don’t know what you’re talking about!!!!” X10?? 😂😂😂

  • @jonhayes7322
    @jonhayes7322 10 місяців тому +3

    Djokovic is a world class player - Sancho isn’t. Nothing to do with agents.

    • @TheXxaddictxX
      @TheXxaddictxX 10 місяців тому +1

      He has a world-class agent. But then again, it's not very hard to trick United to pay over the odds

    • @jonhayes7322
      @jonhayes7322 10 місяців тому

      @@TheXxaddictxX of course, but his agent would deal with finances, opportunities, commercial etc, not actually performing

  • @fyarlynx
    @fyarlynx 10 місяців тому +7

    They need to put limited on how much a club can earn off the players ffs 😂😂😂 put limits EVERYWHERE 🤣🤣🤣

    • @thrilla72
      @thrilla72 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah great point that gets overlooked

  • @Isleofskye
    @Isleofskye 10 місяців тому +2

    I am not keen on Apples and Oranges but I do love Greengages. A very underrated Fruit...

  • @bornin1948
    @bornin1948 10 місяців тому +1

    Djokovic doesn’t play a team sport. That guest is a fool.

  • @troydyall6624
    @troydyall6624 10 місяців тому +6

    Well done SJ!

  • @Explorations84
    @Explorations84 10 місяців тому +6

    The only representation I would need as a footballer would be my own accountant I can drag along with me to negotiations. These "agents" are self-professed and not qualified in anyway - they just have good contacts. They'll spout how important they are simply because of the amount of money they are taking out.

    • @williampotato1221
      @williampotato1221 10 місяців тому +1

      Money for old rope my friend!

    • @languageoffootball
      @languageoffootball 10 місяців тому +2

      There are lots of “money for old rope” roles like this out there. I don’t think it’s as unregulated as it used to be either in terms of entry level.

    • @williampotato1221
      @williampotato1221 10 місяців тому +1

      @@languageoffootball oh come on 🙄... Wake up and smell the coffee! It's an absolute cesspit of corruption.

    • @kerrysgold1
      @kerrysgold1 10 місяців тому +1

      Same for me. I know Roy Keanes never had an agent. His family solicitor does all his dealings-even contract negotiations with Man U

    • @bobsocks7575
      @bobsocks7575 10 місяців тому

      @@marditoon1128How did they do that?

  • @NibberKSmooth
    @NibberKSmooth 10 місяців тому +1

    No agents at all in football. Players should employ a solicitor to discuss contracts.

  • @Bren2011feb
    @Bren2011feb 10 місяців тому +2

    Clubs and fans are ripped off, full stop, that agent speaks pathetic of the gains for agents take out of the game ripping off clubs for average players

  • @leemoffat159
    @leemoffat159 10 місяців тому +5

    Simon at his best here! Well done 🙌🏼

  • @gerardonochie3408
    @gerardonochie3408 10 місяців тому +10

    Now I can see why Simon Jordan failed MISERABLY as the one time owner of Crystal Palace. I thought he was damn right rude calling Sky "as a grown up". The tax issue made a lot of sense by Sky. It looks like Simon got burnt at crystal palace. Make money so long as it is legal and follows due process. Agents and FIFA need to find a common ground.

  • @leedoyle7150
    @leedoyle7150 10 місяців тому +4

    Love how ruthless Simon is 😂😂😂😂

  • @JamaicanToast
    @JamaicanToast 10 місяців тому +1

    I agree with Sky, he does work in the industry at the end of the day. Everyones agreeing with Simon but then when Simon invites him back on and acknowledges Sky's argument just like he reconciled with Eubank Snr. You're all quiet

  • @TheBodger7
    @TheBodger7 10 місяців тому +1

    Sorry so if I employed a cleaner to clean my house I'd get a tax break for having a cleaner?? Nonsense, the cheek of players expecting clubs to pay their agent is just ridiculous and an utter scam

  • @djmattblack
    @djmattblack 10 місяців тому +2

    Anyone notice how much louder Skys voice is than everyone elses, is that deliberate?

  • @nitronori5816
    @nitronori5816 10 місяців тому +1

    Simple accounting means we pay a service provider (ie. Agents) a fee irrespective of taxes hence if you represent the player they are responsible or club if they hire the agent. Agents are nothing more that spin doctors and should not be allowed to give legal/financial advice without being accredited. For example, I cannot be a financial broker and give financial advice without passing my fiduciary assessments which makes Sky's argument invalid on "expert" advice then.

    • @stnbch3025
      @stnbch3025 10 місяців тому

      Whoever employs him should pay his fee disconnected from whatever transfer fee the club agrees.

  • @nigelhaworth1353
    @nigelhaworth1353 10 місяців тому +5

    I wouldn’t take Sky’s advice on laying my dinner table. Scary to think how bad the others must be if he’s a “top” one.

  • @Inst19ct
    @Inst19ct 10 місяців тому

    "Tell'im Jim" ...
    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @alanclark4569
    @alanclark4569 10 місяців тому

    This discussion needs to start from the identification of what is/are the problem(s) that need to be solved. My suggestion is that the problem is the capacity of agents to manipulate the clubs and players to their financial gain, has gone out of control, This lack of regulation is taking huge amounts of money from the game, dictating to a large extent which players go where, creating hyperinflation of transfer fees and player salaries, diminishing player loyalty, taking away the obligation to perform, and destroying some clubs. Of course the clubs themselves need to question their modus operandi. But right now they are at the mercy of agents and the power that they have, and the obsession/financial neccessity to succeed.

  • @ajjo-ni8mw
    @ajjo-ni8mw 10 місяців тому +2

    Agents deserve every penny they get, bang average premier league players getting hundreds of thousands of pounds a week because of great work by the agent

  • @peternielsen8723
    @peternielsen8723 10 місяців тому

    Ofc. it has to do with taxation. If the club pay 110 mio to the player and the player pay 10 mio to their agent, it's taxated more than if the club pay 100 to the player and 10 to the agent because the 10 mio to the agent only gets taxated once when it's directly from the club. It's all about tax evation. The club doesn't realy care for them it's 110 mio out either way.

  • @BigAlCapwn
    @BigAlCapwn 10 місяців тому

    Restraint of trade clauses do exist though and can be perfectly legal (dependant on how they are shaped and what their purpose is, including the clause being necessary for the good of the industry)

  • @fiddler8395
    @fiddler8395 10 місяців тому +3

    Simon from the Piers Morgan school
    of interviewing. Just put him in a paper bag and let him fight with himself. Why bother inviting a guest on.

  • @Stringer_Bell89
    @Stringer_Bell89 10 місяців тому +1

    Perform and get picked

  • @richarddawson8479
    @richarddawson8479 10 місяців тому +1

    HMRC should look into this tax fiddle

  • @tanman966
    @tanman966 10 місяців тому +4

    I’d say the sky’s the limit for this bloke
    I’ll get my coat

  • @atikurrahman9304
    @atikurrahman9304 10 місяців тому +8

    Agents are the bane of football.

    • @yarp123123123123123
      @yarp123123123123123 10 місяців тому +1

      bad owners are by far the bane of football, like simon here who got crystal palace bankrupt.

  • @stevenjohnson7442
    @stevenjohnson7442 10 місяців тому +3

    Simon, really can be blasted rude at times!
    And it's so unnecessary.

  • @Thurmoman
    @Thurmoman 10 місяців тому +2

    Top agent😂 Christ!! Can you imagine the chancers in that industry 😅

  • @denisoleary1407
    @denisoleary1407 10 місяців тому +4

    This guy comes across as a right money grabbing scam artist !

    • @DJeMo
      @DJeMo 10 місяців тому +1

      As desperate as car salesmen on the lot

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye 10 місяців тому

      Tru Say,Mi Bredda. Tru Say,Bredrin..

  • @sonark289
    @sonark289 10 місяців тому +13

    Ive noticed alot of people just agree with Simon regardless of what hes saying

    • @ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx
      @ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx 10 місяців тому +3

      Has Simon been sleeping with your Husband again?! 🙄

    • @nickchivers9029
      @nickchivers9029 10 місяців тому

      And some people disagree with him no matter what he says. Some people are stupid and just blindly follow or blindly hate.

    • @rsamancunian5609
      @rsamancunian5609 10 місяців тому +3

      Simon appears to look at things logically, and he comes across as being sensible most of the time. Sometimes, people are just agreeing with the way he lays down the argument.

  • @The4BsPodcast
    @The4BsPodcast 10 місяців тому +1

    Why is jim so angry agents make a lot of money, if he's so jealous he should change careers and become one

  • @villainofthepiste8275
    @villainofthepiste8275 10 місяців тому +4

    Fancy having an agent on then not listening to his point of view and cutting in every 5 minutes because you love the sound of your own voice- Simon
    Simone wasn't interested in asking him questions or having any logical counter-arguments, just interested in speaking his usual Codswollop

  • @LFC4LIFEJEDI
    @LFC4LIFEJEDI 10 місяців тому +2

    I got out of that is Sky is jealous that none of the top players want him as their agent..
    As for Jim, my God he has never been ore annoying, he was so out his depth

    • @si_w8201
      @si_w8201 10 місяців тому +1

      He's always annoying and always out of his depth, today was not an exception...

    • @si_w8201
      @si_w8201 10 місяців тому

      @@rebelwill412 agreed, don't even get me started on the current format on SSN...

  • @Ben_Gunner
    @Ben_Gunner 10 місяців тому

    All I hear is that agents are the important ones. It's like writers and actors...

  • @soapboxparishrecordings5287
    @soapboxparishrecordings5287 10 місяців тому

    Introduce a fixed 5% of the transfer fee for agents. Paid split between both clubs and the player. That’s more than enough 3:51

  • @kadarabdullahi
    @kadarabdullahi 10 місяців тому +8

    "I don't know what it means/what you mean!!". Well how about letting him finish his points, Simon 😂

    • @stevenjohnson7442
      @stevenjohnson7442 10 місяців тому

      Exactly!

    • @ronanp9245
      @ronanp9245 10 місяців тому +1

      He didn’t have any. That’s the thing

    • @gerardonochie3408
      @gerardonochie3408 10 місяців тому

      @@ronanp9245 He did unless you are not as switched on as Simon clearly was not. As an adult you have to LISTEN then respond. That is what intelligent people do. Simon comes across as lacking self confidence whilst trying to portray he is confident....smh.

    • @si_w8201
      @si_w8201 10 місяців тому

      @@gerardonochie3408 so what exactly was his point?

  • @skusami2548
    @skusami2548 10 місяців тому +1

    It's pretty fitting that a guy called Sky should have his head so far up in the clouds. well done Simon for calling him out on his self-serving nonsense

  • @stargazer6154
    @stargazer6154 10 місяців тому +1

    Sky made a comment "Thats not nice".
    If thats the future of debate when tough people in a tough industry debate facts, then I fear for the future of how buisness is done.
    A lot of bumps in this area need to be sorted and soon.
    If agents are not able to provide the best advice, then who is and what are they earning vast amounts of money for.
    Should it fall back onto the club to monitor and advise?

  • @prvvideoonline7993
    @prvvideoonline7993 10 місяців тому

    I worked in the game a few years back , as a club CEO - agents are parasites. full stop.

  • @InPursuit-ToddMay
    @InPursuit-ToddMay 10 місяців тому +1

    Plenty of good agents, even more dirty ones

  • @richyrose99
    @richyrose99 10 місяців тому

    call them out

  • @riaddaniels2823
    @riaddaniels2823 10 місяців тому

    I'm always concerned about a player, with an agent, going broke.

  • @abiodunbuddy
    @abiodunbuddy 10 місяців тому

    Omg!!! Let your guests speak and stop interrupting!!

  • @SDCLFC1
    @SDCLFC1 10 місяців тому +1

    Wow. What a waste of a discussion. This was such a poor discussion. However terrible Sky might have been Jim, and his producer, did a terrible job setting up this segment. Simon didn't help. He just threw his toys rather than trying to find something constructive.

  • @georgearthern2163
    @georgearthern2163 10 місяців тому +1

    Family agents/managers is a regular thing in boxing. Ask Lawrence Okolie how that has worked out for him.

  • @jackswaby8532
    @jackswaby8532 10 місяців тому

    Am I sitting in the right seat? I'm not sure

  • @campfirefootball
    @campfirefootball 10 місяців тому

    Can someone tell Jim White that if he wants to come to a solution on a debate, interrupting others to repeat the same sentence over and over again is probably not the best route?

  • @iamfordy3457
    @iamfordy3457 10 місяців тому

    This conversation was absolutely pointless

  • @maher136
    @maher136 10 місяців тому

    Skye’s a muppet - any club or player dealing with him need to re think - it’s simple - agents should have a tier fee system based on the league. Agents should be able to have crossed opportunities meaning they can’t represent club and player - you register for either or. Players should be responsible for the agents fees not the club

  • @crimsonknightuk
    @crimsonknightuk 10 місяців тому

    “Gormless sods” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @adriangill5504
    @adriangill5504 10 місяців тому

    The argument is just going round and round
    At the end of the day it’s not in the agents interest in a player staying at a club for the length of their contract
    Agents make money on a percentage of a transfer
    Agents should not get a percentage but be paid by the player over the length of their contract
    The player should agree to pay their agent a percentage from their weekly/monthly pay packet

  • @albertbrammer9263
    @albertbrammer9263 10 місяців тому

    3% max of transfer fee is correct. Agents should be finding players new opportunities regarding advertisements.

    • @stnbch3025
      @stnbch3025 10 місяців тому +1

      Why the f*ck should the transfer fee pay the employee of the player?

  • @bojam_83
    @bojam_83 10 місяців тому

    That was 15 minutes of what do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? !!! 🤯

  • @JP-nb7tm
    @JP-nb7tm 10 місяців тому

    Why would you even ask an agents opinion?

  • @jonhayes7322
    @jonhayes7322 10 місяців тому

    Sky “you need to put people in the right seats… fifa sit in their GLASS tower”
    🤦‍♂️

  • @kavitvora6654
    @kavitvora6654 10 місяців тому +5

    The solution of this agent problem is to let players pay their agents

    • @rosshaugh7937
      @rosshaugh7937 10 місяців тому

      EXACTLY!

    • @rosshaugh7937
      @rosshaugh7937 10 місяців тому +1

      Why the hell should a club have to pay the agent?!

    • @rc9719
      @rc9719 10 місяців тому

      they will just get higher wages then , the club is still going to foot the bill.

    • @stnbch3025
      @stnbch3025 10 місяців тому

      ​@@rc9719 The wagebill has an FFP cap.

  • @machinefannatic99
    @machinefannatic99 10 місяців тому +1

    they are basically arguing about capitalism, and explaining its flaws.

  • @philipquist771
    @philipquist771 10 місяців тому

    You say that's a stupid argument and we throwing hands jordan. . . . .

  • @Jim90117
    @Jim90117 10 місяців тому

    That was the most vague "debate", devoid of any kind of useful information...

  • @whodoyouratemore
    @whodoyouratemore 10 місяців тому +1

    Simons attack dog style gets s bit boring

  • @TheXxaddictxX
    @TheXxaddictxX 10 місяців тому

    Also, these signing bonus?
    Player literally run their contracts down doing f all for the clubs they play for only to sign for someone else who they have clearly been tapped up by.
    Think that needs to be looked into as well.

  • @dbfhorses
    @dbfhorses 10 місяців тому

    "Lo 'angen frooo". That's what football is.

  • @darthgreenthum6364
    @darthgreenthum6364 10 місяців тому

    Kevin De Bruyne negotiated his current city contact without an agent.

  • @matthewbarber13
    @matthewbarber13 10 місяців тому +6

    Simon is right 9 times out of ten but in this case because he wouldn’t let Sky actually get his point across he became rude, childish and petulant, how many times has he tried to make a point for someone to interject and him furiously say let me finish what I was saying!
    He bangs on about how players earn to much and agents are parasites etc but here’s Sky who if was allowed to finish his point was basically agreeing that the way agents make money needs to change. Yet Simon couldn’t be bothered to be civil for 1 minute to listen. If Sky had told Simon that Christmas is on 25th December Simon would have agued that it’s not and Sky doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
    There are a lot of unscrupulous agents who act only for themselves and cause division (which is a point a wholeheartedly agree with Simon on) but Sky is not one of them, for him to be treated with such disdain by Simon is completely out of order.

    • @albertbrammer9263
      @albertbrammer9263 10 місяців тому

      Simon does not like agents. He would like them to be gone.

  • @chrismiller6317
    @chrismiller6317 10 місяців тому

    The players should pay their agents out of their own pockets that way the Clubs can’t be held to ransom by agents

  • @russty2996
    @russty2996 10 місяців тому +1

    This is a agent and he can’t even get his opinion over he just talks rubbish and he just sat there and agreed with Jim he was baffled by Simon’s simple question

  • @leonanderson2197
    @leonanderson2197 10 місяців тому

    So in summary unspecified people are not in the correct unspecified seats. An low hanging fruit. Great debate

  • @anthonyd975
    @anthonyd975 10 місяців тому

    Surely these people should b ready for simon to pick there point of view apart..

  • @jamesasc7709
    @jamesasc7709 10 місяців тому

    are all agents sole traders? why dont we see large entities in this space? Sotheby's et al

  • @stoneyuk
    @stoneyuk 10 місяців тому

    7:40 he was ready to scrap for his beliefs 😂😂

    • @calskie3634
      @calskie3634 10 місяців тому

      Haha Simon woth his arms out as well like he's looking for a square go

  • @bornin1948
    @bornin1948 10 місяців тому

    What does “people not sitting in the right seats” mean ????

  • @willhanlan8077
    @willhanlan8077 10 місяців тому +1

    money grabbing agent sky andrew knows nothing about football. use to be a table tennis player 😂