HELTER SKELTER Dearly Departed's Tate Manson Crime Tour
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2019
- #1069 HELTER SKELTER Dearly Departed's Ultimate Tate Manson Crime Tour - Los Angeles (7/11/19)
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My father was a physician in Chatsworth, Calif., and treated the Manson Girls while they all lived at Spahn Ranch in Simi Valley, Calif. Lots and LOTS of STDs. My dad appreciated quirky people and never charged the girls for his time or medical services; he loved to argue religion with them, especially their claim that Charlie’s name philosophically meant “Man’s Son”. Oh, man, my dad loved to get them going. My sister met Manson at Topanga Plaza the summer before Helter Skelter and said he tried to “hypnotize” her to come and live at Spahn’s. I was very young when this happened and remember horseback riding at the ranch. In lieu of payment for medical services, the girls baked bread (it went uneaten) for my father and created handmade leather pouches that were meant to go around a person’s neck. I used them for Barbie luggage. My dad got such a kick out of those wacky girls. Crazy times!
amazinnng 😐
Very interesting story. Thanks for sharing.
That's a trip lol...thanks for sharing
"Wacky girls".. THAT'S putting it mildly!🥶
very interesting!
Charles Manson is also the crazy one. He did tie up the LaBiancas to be killed and killed the ranch handler. If you tie up someone for another to stab, you are just as much the killer as the one stabbing.
I agree
Certainly.
Scott Michaels and Jordan the Lion cant get much better.
Six degrees of Helter skelter was one of my favorite documentaries Scott Micheal is the man
Mine too!
Same! No one else has done it justice.
Very sad !! I was only a baby when this happened. I was born Nov. 68 . I couldn't imagine what those poor people had to go through . I hope all the Manson family rot in hell for what they did .
Tex did the physical work but Charles Manson was just like a mafia boss... he ordered the hit
I agree that Manson ordered the hit. He didn't take part in the murders as he didn't want to get his hands dirty and besides that he was still on parole.
Correct !!!!!!!!
This story scares me more than any story. I can't imagine the fear Sharon Tate was feeling knowing what them monsters were going to do to her.
Shelly Buttrum,I am sure she was pleading for her Life and that of her unborn child! Sheer Horror!!!!
I can't wait to do this!
If You've not read the book, Helter Skelter, you should. But, I got to warn you. There are pictures of the bodies, and they are gorey. I read the book as a teenager and had nightmares.
@Mark Gable That too, added to the nightmare quality that the murders were so random. And, I don't remember if the book mentioned the LaBianca (spelling?) murders. But, that would have been even more horrendous. I remember hearing something about someone associated with the Beach Boys living at the house. Manson was upset because essentially he had pitched them a song and they had rejected it. So it was a revenge-type thing. But, that just may have been one of the many theories floating around. And there were a great many theories. Someone associated the Beach Boys had lived there, but had moved out less than a year before.
Thats the worse part of it all! And they werent charged with the murder of her baby like they wouldve today. There were actually 8 murders that weekend
I thought Charlie was at the LaBianca house and helped tie them up then left so he wouldn't get his hands dirty in re to actual murder. Charlie was just as evil as Tex. He was just more cunning. He ruined countless lives including the lost young girls he pimped and pumped with drugs in order to manipulate them into doing things he wanted to happen. Don't excuse Charlie by saying he didn't actually kill anyone. He's just as culpable as Tex and the rest of them. If there hadn't been Charlie, these people wouldn't have died.
Charlie did leave after the tie ups.
This is fascinating! My mom lived in Long Beach when all of this was going on and she remembers a drunk man beating on her apartment door all night and she thought Charles Manson’s people were coming to get her 😯
Lady Heart oh wow! I can’t imagine. I’d be scared to go to bed every night
Wow god bless her xxxx
@@brendaleverick3655 I’m glad you’re ok! That’s terrifying!!
6:45 --- It's true that Manson has received too much of the blame for these murders. (How many people even know who Tex Watson is?) But the TLB murders were 100% instigated and planned by Charles Manson. The murders were committed according to his instructions, and without him, these murders would never have happened.
At the same time, without Watson, these murders would never have happened. Charlie and Tex were a lethal team, with Tex carrying out the murders in a more grisly manner than even Manson was capable of --- I believe Charlie was a coward who wouldn't have been able to stab a pregnant woman to death.
Shining more light on Watson's guilt does not make Manson less guilty. They both got what they deserved --- the death penalty (later overturned by the courts).
This confirms that my next trip to LA must include a Dearly Departed tour! Scott is so knowledgeable and comfortable with what he does and it definitely shines through on his tours. He is one of the few places that I still receive emails from because they are always full of interesting things. Thank you Jordan for vlogging this!
You will love the Helter shelter tour. I went last year
Thank you so much for taking us with you on the tour, nobody knows the Manson Murders like Scott Michaels.
Wow, this tour guide knows his stuff! Excellent presentation....thank you so much for posting this! I have been researching this case for a year and it absolutely fascinates me. RIP to all the victims.
Michael's got a great voice for this stuff !
Yeah, excellent intonation, phrasing, pacing and syntax. I agree. I thought the same thing! Cheers.
This will be long, I'm sorry. First, I can not believe its been almost 50 years. I was 15 and a movie star buff and I was terrified when I learned what had happened. Scott is THE formost authority on this horrid crime. I highly recommend his documentary 6 degrees of Helter Skelter. I bought it and it is so through and the research he did into it is unparralled. Thank you for this. You are right, Scott. Tex is THE monster
Hi Jordan, I don't care how many times I hear about the Tate- Labionca murders
I always find out that there are things that I have never heard before, Or just had no clue about.so again Jordan I thank you for sharing your time and details with us, have a great day ☺️ 🖐️👊 👍💯 💯🔥🔥 🔥.
What a great tour guy who really knows his job. Great job jordan as usual
A Very VERY Long time ago I did a book report on The book Helter Skelter.... BLEW My 7th grade teachers Mind!!! LOL Great Vlog as always!!!
I did too, got an A!
What age were you at the time?
@@rollydoucet8909 12 or 13 I believe
Growing up in Chatsworth, even my older sister commented the other day to me how terrified LA was when the murders happened. My dad was an LA City Fireman at the time, and even though they weren’t directly involved with the investigation, were highly disturbed over it. It wasn’t until it was discovered that it was the Manson gang who were found out to be the perpetrators (and with Spahn Ranch only about a mile away from our house) did it really hit home. 😳😬.
I’d recommend any of Dave McGowan’s work, especially “Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon”, Charlie Manson figures in there too. Definitely bizarre stuff!
Wow what a great surprise. I have always wanted to see this tour. Scott is very detailed in all his tours. The 60 s night would be a blast to attend... Great job Jordan and Scott
Scott should be the official historian for celebrity Hollywood
Scott always seem to have a boundless knowledge of his tour subjects. Must make the tours even better with the audio/visual stuff he provides as well.
I've never heard anybody give great minute, unknown details like Scott! And of course the manson murders has an incredible amount of details that just keeps daisy chaining.
Jordan in one of the books written about Jim Morrison, it was described that after the murders at the Tate house, Jim was one of the people they questioned because he was friends with Jay Sebring. The book described how afraid Morrison was because he already felt he was being pursued because of the anti-war stance him and other bands were taking and he was petrified they were trying to link him up to this. I'd like for you to ask Scott if he can confirm the police actually interrogated him.
I think Jim was just frightened by the brutality of the murders. Sebring had styled Jim’s hair but it’s not been documented that he knew him well. The kind of behavior Jim was documented to have would not have gone over well in Sebring/ Tate circles plus Jim was anti war but rather conservative politically in many ways. What’s not been spoken of is how Jim reacted after the murders - I wonder if he got increased security or even started packing a toy himself. Looks for sure like his increased alcoholism and weight gain were around that time. I think most accounts would say that Jay was troubled , but generally a really kind and likable person-and Sharon a person that most people would warm to in about any circle. I wonder just how many peoples lives who knew them were also destroyed.
@@jamessharp9790 many lives !!!😭😭
Scott does such an amazing job with his tours. I definitely want to go on one sometime. It's very impressive to hear him tell all the stories. I didn't realize so much pop culture intertwined. Especially with bv Batman.
I was a 13 year old kid starting my first year of high school in Santa Barbara California in August of 1969. I have had a fascination with the whole thing since then. I hope that part of the tour mentions that the previous occupant of the house on Cielo was Terry Melcher. He was a record producer and the son of Doris Day. He was also friends with Dennis Wilson with whom Charlie lived briefly. The Beach Boys bought a song from Charlie but changed the title and lyrics. Charlie was mad about it. The point being that part of the reason that house was chosen is that Charlie had been there with Dennis Wilson when Terry lived there. And since Terry refused to help get Charlie a record deal and Charlie was really mad. He may have thought Terry Melcher still lived there.
Dont think Manson had ANY part in who,what,where at Cielo. It was Watsons Madness overthere I think Watson has been partying and selling/buying Dope at Cielo when Tate/Polanski were in London. When they were in London, Folger&Frykowsky partied HARD at Cielo.... And Sebring being ,,The Candy-Man,, They Needed Money, or Druggs Remember? So I think it was Watsons plan to go overthere ....and when they came there , allready killed one (Steven Parent) He was going absolutely MAD when there was No Druggs or Bigg Amounts $$$ there ... And could NOT leave any witnesses to what they done .
@@Hanzey1966 ok that's your opinion....but from what the girls have said it came from Charlie. And he was very angry that Dennis Wilson changed his song and that Terry Melcher who lived at the property before Sharon had turned him down on his music aspirations. Of course there were drugs but drugs in the 60s were nothing like drugs today so unless you have further evidence and not theory please let me know.
@@donnagutierrez5740 Well ..If you believe that .. But its Okay , there are Soooooooooooo many different theorys,opinions,motives,books,movie,docus on this case as we both know. In an Interview with Manson, He sayd ,,Go with Tex, and Do what Tex says,, Manson NEVER told them ... Go with Tex, and Go kill Terry Melcher... The thing about the Cease to Excist/Never Learn not to Love song was about Dennis Wilson. And Dennis didnt live there at Cielo.. To include Dennis Wilson in the Cielo Murders is pointless, Thats a totaly different thing... Can I ask you Donna ? You believe The Helter Skelter theory too ?
@@Hanzey1966 Manson knew Terry melcher didnt live there anymore. But he knew he couldn't kill terry,next best thing.sure scared Terry exactly what it was supposed to do.manson absolutely ordered this.
Great tour! Scott is so knowledgeable and personable. Makes me wish I lived in the area so I could take the tour and be part of the festivities in August! Hope you are in town to make it!
I enjoyed listening to Scott's stories. He really knows his stuff! Thanks Jordan for sharing this tour with us!
He only knows what the msm wants us to know. Polansky knows what happened and fled to Europe for his alibi.
This is a very informative and interesting historical tour that I have on my list to do. My hub and I did the dearly departed tour a few years ago and was money well spent. I followed Scott for years and knew the tour would be very good. In fact, I’d do that tour again because Scott was out of town the weekend we were there so I’d love to do one with him. I think it’s nice that he’s doing a tour to remember these victims 50 years later.
I love these tours. Scott Michaels knows his stuff. Great vlog!!
Film & Vinyl not necessarily
Not all said was accurate.
@@Kay-fv7cw what wasn’t accurate?
I would love to go on this tour.
Me too I was just in LA I wish I could have had time to go on it but I didn't I'm a truck driver making a delivery
It’s a great tour i went August 2019
Thanks for this!🤙 I've seen this dude's documentary on the Manson murders. Pretty cool seeing all the places with the stories.
This case is still a cultural touchstone in California and on the West Coast. Truth stranger than fiction.
This is the most interesting of the tour companies in Hollywood/LA. No one does it like Scott. I lived in LA when the murders happened. It was a weird time.
Like I said before, as a 9 year old kid in West Hollywood,
this changed everything. No more bike riding after dusk.
But we took a motorhome trip up north a few days later
and here I am, in a huge parking lot in South Lake Tahoe,
all by myself in the motorhome (because the fam was
out getting groceries or something) .. sunshine and pine
trees all around me .. and I'm reading about the details
of what happened in an L.A. Times, and it was like reading
a Stephen King novel with no one around! Creepy as hell.
Something about neighbors reporting screaming and
the sounds of "wood on brick", which left my 9 year
old mind racing.
Thanks Jordan
Very cool to go along on this tour. Have a great day !!! Hi Jah 😊
Abbey Road cover was taken between 11 and noon on August 8 whereas Tate murders took place during the early hours of August 9 which, along with the 8 hour time difference, amounts to almost 24 hours. Somebody should call out the otherwise super meticulous Scott on this!
I took one of his tours a couple years ago and it was fantastic. When I went to check in for the tour, the gentleman in this video was there. I got a chance to chat with him for several minutes. He's very very nice and incredibly interesting. He ended up giving me a "Death Hag" sticker for his Find A Death website. I still have the sticker. His tours are very interesting and I strongly recommend them.
You and Scott have by far the greatest knowledge and content in this genre both on the web and on the ground. Love all of your videos Jordan and Scott!! Thank you!! 🤘
I really love these dearly departed tours. Thank you Jordan for doing the video.
Great video. I was 15 in the summer of 69. Remember the incident well. Something terribly wrong with these two events. Totally F/U situation even now 50 years later. Thanks, man for the recent tour!
Wow Jordan thanks so much! I watched another vlog you have done about Manson and I fell into a rabbit 🐰 hole for like 2 weeks and man I’m still having nightmares! You rock Jordan hugs and smiles! I watched a lot of documentaries but I could sit and just listen to Scott and get chills his tour was so awesome! I’m sure you left things out so you want to take the tour yourself! I’m definitely sure you will get a lot of views and subs! You totally deserve everything thing for your hard work!
Hi Jordan, another interesting vlog, I can't believe it has been 50 years in August. Scott's tours are great, and it's even better when you are there aswell. It is still shocking to hear what happened all those years ago. Great vlog Jordan.
I always enjoy Dearly Departure tours! Can't wait to see your Europe vlogs! Thank you for sharing😊❤
I was 15 when these murders happened and I remember watching all about it on the TV (B&W). And have always been fascinated about these cases. Read several books about it including Helter Skelter written by the prosecuting attorney.
But this tour has brought to light many things I had never heard, very interesting..
Thank you for bringing us along, nothing like sitting directly in front of the very places they happened. A whole lot different than seeing pictures or old video.
And yes Mansion got blamed for all the murders but never really killed anyone except maybe Bruce on the ranch. But even that was never proven.
Thanks again :)
Priscilla Pope - You mean Shorty Shea.
I had a friend in San Francisco in the 90s who was an older jazz musician who moved to SF in the 40s, and he remembered seeing Manson around the Haight. I also had a boyfriend around the same time who lived in an apartment that was right next door to where Manson lived (636 Cole) albeit 20 some years later.
This was very informative Jordan, thanks for taking us with you!
What a professional and outstanding tour guide Scott Michaels is....The TLB case is fascinating....
This whole subject intrigued me! Thanks for the vlog. Excellent tour!
Well that was a very interesting vlog, Jordan. Just when I thought I'd heard and read everything there was to know about those murders, something else was mentioned. Thanks so much for doing this one.
Fantastic brother! Scott is so informative and what i like about the way he delivers the story is 2nd to none..He also keeps his info as up to date as possible.. I.e. Mrs Labianca's financials.. Have a great day and Thank you!
Thank you for this tour! I learned some new things and I want to take this tour one day.
Awesome vlog. Scott Michaels really knows his stuff on Manson and the murders. I’ve been following the case for years. And I’m always looking and learning new things about the murders.
Thank you for this Jordan! Great tour Scott!
Very interesting vlog! Thank you Jordan for always going the extra mile for a great story and vlog! 🦋
Thank you for this tour!! Very enjoyable!!
These tours are always fascinating. Thank you
Thank you Jordan! That was amazing! Definitely one of my top things to do if I ever get to go to L.A.
Mansons eyes always gave me the chills, just pure black .It just boggles my mind that they, did not know the murders were related.Thanks, Jordan God bless
No joke about Manson's eyes! Even now ( I was still in diapers when this happened) I get the willies every time I see a picture of him!
Such a tragic story, but Scott Michaels does an awesome job of retelling every detail, and honoring those poor people that passed that night. He does it without glorifying the murderers. I have been following Schott's work for years with his website FINDADEATH. Great job Scott, and thank you Jordan to showing all of us that can guite make it to take the tour for ourselves.....YET! :)Thank for sharing.
Looks like an amazing tour, his passion is real, you can't fake that, awesome vlog!
I love these tours...thanks Jordan
I was 9, it changed how people viewed their safety at home forever. It was hard to believe that this could happen, or that this really did, in fact, happen at all! It was a frightening time.
Allways interesting when your with Dearly Duder. Thanks Jordan
Seeing that the video was a dearly departed tour,I knew it would be good. Nice work,Jordan. 😎
Great tour, I took it previously. Extraordinary!
Once again Jordan another totally cool video of somewhere I'll never have a chance to see thank you for sharing
Great tour!! Thank you Scott and Jordan.
Just LOVE the vlogs you do with Dearly Departed. Great job. 🤗😊
Love this oh so much!! Very informational! And such a sad story
I can't believe it seeing these locations thanks for the tour
I could listen to this guy talk about anything. He is so knowledgeable and entertaining.
Dude just looked at the title and got excited about this vlog!! Thank you!!
I know it's 4am here in Detroit and i had to stay up to watch this lol. Keep in mind I went to bed at 11pm last night and have work at 6am this morning lol . WORTH IT 👌
This was so fantastic! Thanks for sharing!
Very very interesting!! Thanks to Jordan & Scott Michaels for bringing us along the “ Hellter Skelter” tour. It’s so weird how so many folks could be manipulated to actually harm people by one guy yikes so scary. Thanks Jordan great vlog today, take care 🌼🌹🌺🌻🌻🦁❤️
Great job! We really enjoyed your video .. very interesting . Thanks for sharing!
This guy is a fantastic story teller !
Wow amazed again! This guy was incredible with all the knowledge! Thank you Jordan 🎯from an Ohioan
Grand tour with so many tidbits of info I never knew!
Very interesting! Always been interested in the case.
Remember it well. I was 19 and lived in LA.
It was terrifying to think that, out there somewhere near by, these ghoulish murderers were on the loose. Still makes me sick.
I was in high school when these horrible murders took place. In fact the same high school that Patricia krenwinkel went to. It was interesting to actually see some of these places but I've only read about and seed on the movies. Thank God I never met or ran into any of these people. Luckily I was too young. It was really creepy back then. Thank you we do need to remember the victims of these crimes. may they rest in peace.
Great stuff Jordan I was just in London, so much to blog!
Your the best, please never stop what you do!
Great vlog, great topic and info!
Interesting Vlog. Great tour Scott gives. Lots of information. Thanks for bringing us along. Safe Travels and Take Care.
This is fascinating! Thank you for sharing.
So interesting! Didn't know Mansin didn't have a hand, per se, in the actual murders. Tex Watson was a true monster! Thanks Jordan and Scott for this amazing tour!
But did basically put hits on those they murdered. 'Shorty' Shea, Gary Hinman, Manson directed them to the Tate house, Manson broke in & tied up the LaBiancas. He was very much involved even if not wielding the weapons.
@Shirley Bailey Yes, Watson fathered 5 or 6 kids. Some sick girl wanted to marry him & have his children! His sons apparently look just like him. Not sure about Manson's son or the other cult children. They were a murder cult.
@Shirley Bailey Manson planned the Hinman-Tate-LaBianca-Shea murders. Without him, none of these people would have been murdered.
He personally selected 10050 Cielo Drive (the Tate house) because he held a grudge against former tenant Terry Melcher. He knew the layout of the house, and he knew it was secluded. Manson provided Tex Watson with a gun, with knives, with bolt cutters (to cut the telephone wires), with transportation to and from the murder house, and with 2 willing accomplices. He even gave instructions about leaving a "witchy" sign (the writing in blood).
Manson also selected the LaBianca house and was the first of the gang to enter their home. He held a gun on the couple while Tex tied them up. They were then murdered on Manson's orders, just as the occupants of the Tate house had been the night before.
Manson thought that legally, he could not be held accountable and prosecuted for the crimes if he, personally, did not physical murder anyone. Fortunately, at his trial, the People of the State of California didn't fall for it and handed him the sentence he deserved --- the Death Penalty.
@@emmabauer1906 watson fathered 4 kids
Amazing tour. Would love to go on one of their tours
This has me excited for the upcoming movie thanks Jordan
Glad to hear they came to scott for knowledge on the murders,it makes me more excited for the movie.
Manson was still legally culpable, esp at the LaBianca house. He was there and tied them up. He left not wanting to get his hands dirty with murder but he made himself part of the whole crime including what happened afterward.
I walked passed Scott's business the last time I was in L.A. The next time I will be sure to drop by to be on one of his tours because this is awesome.
RAD! I love these tour vlogs you do.
This was incredible !!! I thought I knew everything there was to know on this subject....boy was I wrong...great job as always. 🙂
Thank you , I had never know where Jay the Hair dressers shop was. Nice tour.
This guy is entertaining as hell. Great vdo
Thank you Jordan. I plan to take this tour when I go to LA.
Very well executed vlog Jordan & Scott. It was easy to understand the chain of events as they happened. I had just graduated from junior high and started later on in September 1969 attending John Marshall High School in the Los Feliz area. Very crazy times indeed! ❤️🙏🏻🌹🥀
You always hit a home run with your vlogs. Keep it up.
Great Vlog Jordan!
This was such a fun tour!