Great description. I don't care she had 53 years, but neither did her victims..Yes I know she didn't killed Sharon Tate's unborn baby, but she killed Mrs Labianca, who had a 15 year old child Unfortunately, the children discovered their bloody parents. People say to me I'm too emotional. I couldn't imagine the families pain. Someone said the Tate's family wouldn't care. That's insensitive they cared because it still a gross memory of their sister and unborn baby. RIP to all the victims 🙏
You mean normal people high on LSD, speed and the mindwash program of crazy Manson. Oh you better think again. Such a cocktail would push anyone during the height of the hippie cultural revolution to do anything. You think to much of yourself and others because you have never been in a cult.
Who are you to question what I said. It’s an opinion that I believe. Who are you to think you can question me?? You can’t act like (who are you) while your telling me something. Who the hell are you?!?!?!?! Exactly!!! No body at all!!!
It’s one thing to be brainwashed and it’s another to actually have it in you to be able to purposely kill a human being and have no remorse. It’s part of who you are as a person
I think she’s more to blame than Manson I don’t think you can be brainwashed to kill somebody that way and young people go off the rails yes but they don’t kill not like this you are still responsible for your actions at the age they were she had a family she could back to for support so no she should have died in jail
The families did not get justice, and neither did the rest of us. She is evil incarnate. She butchered Rosemary LaBianca. The fact she has seen daylight as a free woman is a total failure.
@@georgialee6755 There are different murderers out there. Some who don't care and enjoy the kill/hunt, some who kill out of fear and frustration, kill out of sudden passion, and killers who like these sorry souls were high on LSD and other drugs plus the mindwash of crazies like Manson. Those aren't even real killers, or otherwise said. All of us could be turned into killers having received such a cocktail.
No justice? Tex Watson is never going to be released (and he knows it) Krenwinkle will probably never be released. Atkins and Manson both died in jail and van Houten spent over 40 years behind bars. It's not like they all got off scott-free.
Horrendous. How did it go from a life sentence to being paroled? Leslie Van Houton and the rest of the Manson Family changed the culture of Los Angeles. People started locking their doors and trust of strangers needed. Her crime was not only the horrible murder but far reaching effects on our society. She hasn’t served her sentence. I have no empathy for he.
She is lucky to be out at all. I remember when it happened. Horrible. Sadly, things have only gotten worse since. Now we have a whole political party that is a cult.
I have to say, the older I have gotten, the more someone who is19-22 are still babies to me. I have seen drugs cloud the mind of even some of the best people. I think they should be punished, and they have. She is not a risk to society.
@@heydeanie the comments I read were like kill her and keep her in prison forever. She is not a risk to society as long as she has a good support system. She served her time. She was so young and easily influenced back then.
Hitler had done it before. He mesmerized an entire nation into savage murderers. The Germans were regular people as you might find in any village or town. The postman, a grocer, an innkeeper, a farmer. Before, they were simple average people. Never forget the past!
They found their equal in Manson. I don't understand why it's hard for some people to believe that. Others left as soon as they realized the group's true intentions.
@@fatamorgana1470 Manson was a MK Ultra victim himself. He was no ones equal. He was programmed to reek havoc and chaos which was a success. He did put an end to the hippie cultural revolution that's for sure. His followers were just sorry sods who got mindwashed themselves with LSD, speed and other methods of manipulation.
@@annodomini7250 Van Houten stabbed her approximately 16 times in the back and the exposed buttocks. But even if she wasn't who pulled the trigger she was part of the murder in her own will so she is also responsible.
@@edinak5805 that's right 16 stabs to the lower back into a dead woman, Tex said to her she had to get her 'hands dirty', Tex had already killed Mrs. La Bianca. What trigger? there were no guns involved. Knives and forks so to speak.
@@annodomini7250 Trigger was symbolic it means any weapon. She was willingly part of this action and she knew why they had gone there, so she is just as guilty as the others even if she didn't take part in the stabbing that she did. And at the court, she didn't look like a poor victim of a cult, she had that huge smile and was singing, showing no remorse at all.
@@edinak5805 there was no cult, did you not realize this with all the knowledge you have. Who killed the victims Tex Watson except for one of them over the two nights, Abigail was killed by Katie you will know her by the name Patricia Krenwinkel the murders were orchestrated by one man...Charles Tex Watson. Middle class America could not have their children killing people, I know lets blame it on the older jailbird who lives on the ranch, the truth is your children were taught to kill by their government in Vietnam, what were 7 people over two nights compared to the 100's of thousands Vietnamese killed. The media created The Manson Family along with the Bug, sure we saw each other as brothers and sisters just like Christians do and yes we viewed each other as family but no Manson Family Cult existed that was your and the society you belong to projection it was the shadow side of your natures, the darkness you project on to others to escape your own responsibility for the crimes.
People have done a lot worse than her (stabbing a woman who was already dead/dying) and gotten off a lot earlier. She was kept in longer because of the notoriety of the crime. The miscarriage was keeping her in longer, despite multiple recommendations for parole, because of bad press. People like you who don't know the details of her case sharing their ignorant opinions.
Yes You Are Right About The Justice System. But Debra Honey Believe Me THE VENGANCE IS THE LORDS. They Will Not Get Away With It When Jesus Comes His Second Coming And...Remember, We Will Be All Reunited In His Second Coming And We Get To Stand With Jesus And We Get To See All Evil Fall. Souls And All Rejoice Dear Debra. Our Day Is Coming To See It All Happen And I Pray To Stand Next To You When Judgement And Real Justice Is Being Served Against The Enemies And All Who Are With The Lord Will See Them Fall And We will All Live On Earth And Is In Heaven When Combined. God Bless You Sweet Debra. Jesus Is With Us...And He Is For Us
She should have never been released.! My heart breaks for all her victims families. I’m not saying she isn’t reformed , but she needs to pay for the rest of her life. This is insane.
@@Angelruggieri86she conspired, it doesn’t matter if she did absolutely nothing. Knowing what was going to happen, and doing nothing to stop it, makes her just as guilty as everyone who you think played a bigger part. Stabbing a dead person, that’s her story
@@Angelruggieri86 She gave credence and cover to those who did. She participated in a conspiracy to commit murder. She knew what was done to Sharon Tate, and set out to do it better, to murder better. She then told people it was fun.
She committed a brutal and savage crime. It took decades for her to admit guilt and take responsibility for her actions. If she is released, who then deserves the Death Penalty or life in prison?? The floodgates are now open for prison release of terrible criminals. What a disgrace!! Our laws mean nothing and the government is unable to protect its citizens.
To be released from incarceration, certain criteria and behaviour must be exhibited by the criminal. The flood gates will not open, since not all criminals will meet the required criteria and behaviour. The problem of administering the death penalty is when an incent person is convicted of a crime(s). Once executed, the innocent person cannot come back to society.
It didn't take decades, just a few years to get unbrainwashed to realize the damage she did. She took responsibility soon after. I listened to her own words on a podcast from prison. It did however take decades for the parole board to see her remorse. But you also have the victims family fighting against it which is 100% understandable. I believe God is the reason she's out now. Prayer changes lives and circumstances.
Whether she did or didn't admit, listen how disaffected and disconnected she sounds as she recounts something horrific and heinous. Like she is picking groceries. I cry at commercials. I cry every time I watch missing shows or true crime. These people don't have ANY feeling. Why should she get released? Thanks a-holes.
Or The Folger’s Family. Remember they killed Abigail Folgers, the heiress of Folgers coffee. And how they did Sharon Tate and Her baby whom she was pregnant with. Just disgusting
Think about this for a moment...bank robbery occurs and one of the 4 robbers shoots and kills 2 people. All of the robbers contributed to their deaths even though they didn't pull the trigger and they all get life in prison w/o parole. Only one pulled the trigger but they are ALL responsible for the taking of another human life. That was a decision they made and the sentence should be enforced regardless of how well they acted in prison. Could they be a different person after so many years behind bars? Maybe, but is it fair and justice served to the people who were killed? They don't get a do over...they're dead. I'm glad Van Houten has remorse but that doesn't mean she should ever be free. Remember, she stabbed Rosemary LaBianca 16 times...clap your hands 16 times to get an idea of how many times she purposely pushed a knife into Rosemarys lower back...that is a tremendous amount of physical exertion and desire to ensure the death of another human. She should NEVER be free to walk with law abiding citizens again regardless of her accomplishments or "Model Prisoner" designation while incarcerated. Do the crime...do the time. All of it.
Justice will never be fully "served to the people they killed". Quit being all rhetorical and hyperbolic. If you think someone who was willfully hands-on in a murder, far more than another separate person but still think they're both somehow just as guilty then that indicates that your brain is not working properly. The wiles of your idealist and logically shaky imagination do not dictate how judicial-based criminal sentencing works either. I know you're not that young (because for some reason older generations almost all type like that; same grammatical tone and everything) but you still come off as juvenile.
@@Ryan88881 Hmmm...I'm trying to figure out what your motivation is to respond to my comments. Rhetorical? Hyperbolic? What? Here's my take...it's pretty obvious you consider yourself the smartest person in the room and can't wait to spew out some ridiculous word salad in order to appear smarter than you actually are. Here's an idea...1-take a nap. 2-take another nap. And finally, 3-stop commenting when the adults are talking. Most important though, don't forget the naps...they won't help you at all but at least keep you from tapping out goofy word babble. You're welcome.
@@ericargo9157 Ok if you processed and perceived those fairly plain and standard handful of sentences as reading like "word salad", or somehow counting as a prolix display then I think there really is something wrong with someone's brain. I wont say it's you, but I will type it. You wanna try that one again Mr. 'adult'
@@Ptownmarc you are wrong, she stabbed the corpse of Rosemary LaBianca after Watson had killed her and you would know this if you had read about the case and the trial papers, which I guess you have not.
@annodomini7250 Did you watch the video? Leslie said she stabbed Mrs LaBianca 16 times in the back. She absolutely killed someone. Charlie is the one who never killed any one he just told them to do it
@@Greyseabee Yes she stabbed Mrs LaBianca 16 times....after she was already dead. Charlie told no one to do anything. he ordered no one to kill anyone.
Memory is an important thing as any Holocaust survivor will tell you. I re-call the Sixties very well. I was dis-affected, too, but I was lucky, I learned what my parameters were. I managed to stay away from hard drugs, abusive relationships, cults, crazies, and the like. For me, the Sixties died in 1969, when the Manson Family went on their rampage. Leslie Van Houten's release from prison is an injustice to all of those who were murdered and the families who have suffered because of their actions for over a half century. Let's hope that this will not set a dangerous precedent. The idea of killing a person in cold blood and somehow getting away with murder is repulsive. The dead are given no second chances.
@@jessiejoseph1093 I was such a big dummy in the Sixties. Imagine believing that a world filled with: peace. love and understanding was ever going to come to pass?
9? I remember everyone around me ie adults freaking out about Nov 22 1963....I was less than 3yo but still got that something big had happened to someone important and it wasn't good..
They did get it. But the death penalty was ended in that state that year or the year after. Probably the architects thought the impact on society would be greater if they were not killed off!
Not according to her own testimony. She later denied it saying Tex did it. She said in this video she felt nothing. Leslie is the only one who shows remorse.
Not correct. Susan redacted that statement during the trial and said that Tex was the one who killed Sharon. Whether that’s true or not who knows but I don’t take anything she says for word.
@@Julia67126 why are you yelling? She redacted her statement she edited her statement to appeal to the court. Retracted means the statement was taken out completely which isn’t accurate.
@@Chris-f8j4q That's not what the law says. It's called criminal conspiracy to murder; she is as guilty as the others who held the knives, no matter if the first stab or the 80th stab happened to be the killing blow.
@@Chris-f8j4q if you don't think that her stabbing Rosemary Labianca 16 times is butchering, then your and my definitions of that word are worlds apart.
@@thesummerland6165 You are too melodramatic. They are living a life sentence? She was a kid on drugs and strongly manipulated. She is not that same person now.
She said all the right things about remorse and accountability with all the emotion of someone talking about any normal day. I don't think she should have been released.
It is a slap in the face of the victims' families. It was a death sentence commuted to life. . .with the possibility of parole. It should have been a life sentence.
I bet Debra Tate is seething right now and I don't blamed her one bit. After she, her late mother and late sister, Patti attended every single parole hearing to make sure that none of these killers were ever released into society, Leslie Van Houten is granted her freedom. What a travesty of justice. (Btw, I've read on other YT boards that people who believe as I and the Tate's do are just angry, out-of-touch moralists. Fine if that's what you believe. But let me ask you, what would you do if Van Houten had repeatedly stabbed your father in the back like she did to Leno La Bianca? Would *you* want her walking free as a breeze?).
@@lonelyheroine someone stupidly told me that the Tate family wouldn't care because she wasn't at Tate murders. I say BS you don't have to be related to someone to care about someone else. Leslie took a part in murdering Mrs Labianca she left behind a 15 year old child. I care and I am not related to this story. Cold blooded murders don't belong in society. Yes Tate's sister does not approve of this decision.
dont forget these families are not in morning most hadn't even been born! its just a show for them to get noticeability, nothing more, they couldn't consider letting any of Mansons followers go until his death, because they would've had to release him to! look at these occult churches today, they are still demanding the sacrifice of children by abortion, and all of them have embraced perversion, Manson had one prediction right that white idiots would allow themselves to be the underdogs as they stupidly lift black gang members up to martyrs and bow down the gang blm flag!, tell me how do you feel when some black ass hole steps in front of you when you are in line or trying to talk to someone! or some black ho tells you to shut up, hasn't happen yet well it will, im black and in my 60s and this generation of black people are centered around gangs their just to arrogant to see it, and eventually it will cause a war you wouldn't believe, one that will claim lives!
@@nicolebailey4426 That is so not true. They appeared at all of Van Houten's parole hearings and together with Stephen Kay (who looked a hell of a lot like Bobby Kennedy back in the day) they managed to keep her behind bars (where she still belongs) up until now. I've signed petitions to keep her locked up, because I felt so incredibly sad for Sharon's mother, Doris Tate. She started an organization for Parents Of Murdered Children and campaigned tirelessly until her untimely death at age 65. There are a number of these heartbreaking videos here on YT. And I am sure that Patti's early demise of breast cancer was partially due to her sister's brutal murder.
See to me, those people who feel sorry for how Manson brainwashed these "poor girls" are short-sighted. While he did use the fact that most of these people, girls and boys were somewhat defective or lost or troubled, and it is okay to feel that he did brainwash them with drugs and sexual assault and other things, I just believe that you can't create a person. Meaning, they had to have this somewhere down deep in their bones to do what they did, Manson or not. We all are capable of great and horrible things, but I cannot even relate in any way, shape, or form with these people - even at my lowest and lost points in my life, my most vulnerable, I have never thought of harming others or getting mine. I can't even think of plunging a knife into someone once or shooting someone or hanging them, let alone what they did.
@@Ryan88881 she is maybe not on their level of ferocious psychosis, no..I'd be less willing to consider their release, vs her's..anyway, Atkins died probably in agony or full of morphine brain cancer..
It’s so crazy! This woman was born with everything, looks, money, a chance at unlimited education and the possibility of going anywhere and doing anything she wanted to in life, and she wasted every single gift. Nope, life sentence should mean life sentence. Sharon Tate and her son, all those other young people who were so brutally and senselessly slaughtered, shout out to poor Steven Parent, poor 18 year-old kid in the wrong place at the wrong time and in no way connected to any of it, they never got to finish out their lives. That little baby never even got to start his. Not justice to ever let this woman out in society. The LaBiancas, which are the murders she participated in that next night. She’s the one who left the fork sticking out of Leno LaBianca’s stomach, I think. Can’t wrap my mind around the fact she’s out.
Leslie was one of those who was present as they terrorized Rosemary LaBianca. She helped Tex & Patricia wrap a lampshade cord around the woman's neck as Rosemary listened to her husband's screams in the living room. They put a pillowcase on her head, Krenwinkel stabbed her while Van Houten held down the victim...The knife bent, and that's when Van Houten helped Watson deliver the stabs, doing her part herself. Each of them left a signature on the slaughter. Look at the girls during the trial. The expressions on their faces, the smiles and gestures to the camera, the indifference when they were questioned. To them it was all a joke.
Please make sure you tell your audience what this psychopath did. She and her murderous friends broke into the home of people they'd never met. They separated and tied up the married couple who lived there. They put cloth over their heads and bound them by light cables around their necks and hands. They stabbed Leno LaBianca. His wife heard him scream and screamed what are you doing to my husband? After that murdered both of these lovely people they wrote in their blood on the walls then ate their food and showered in their bathroom. This was one night after their "family" murdered 5 other innocent people including a 8 1/2 month pregnant woman. They laughed, giggled, and taunted the victims and their families during their trial. They were sentenced to death but the SCOTUS abolished the death penalty so they were given life except, of course, now one of the psychopaths has been released. When will Rosemary and Leno be released? When will the 5 Tate victims be released? What about Gary Hinman and Shorty Shea? Never. They terrorized CA and the rest of the country for months before they finally got them and now one of them is free. It's an absolute obscenity. I say all this for young people who don't know the entire history of this horror. May she never know peace.
You are only focusing on the top of the iceberg. The visible and audible part of the snake. Its rattling tail! Which is the least dangerous part of the snake. It is meant to steal your attention away from its head which is the real danger.
I'm curious to see how people treat her now that she's been released. She just said she was an empty shell of a person when it all happened. 3:41 What this tells me is she had absolutely no remorse when it happened. In other words, she's trying to play the victim. This makes me sick! The crimes they committed were absolutely vicious and cold-blooded. These people literally told the victims they were going to kill them before they committed the crime. 😡😡
no, maybe no remorse, originally..maybe she was one of those bitch zombies with lesbo haircuts singing those loony songs on way to/from the court...but...THIS NOW is a long time beyond THAT time..
"She just said she was an empty shell of a person when it all happened. 3:41 What this tells me is she had absolutely no remorse when it happened." Yes you could say that. But being that they were all high on LSD, speed and the mindwash of Manson, that should make you think that she had no will of her own. That she was an empty tool to be used.
@@melgrant7404 Because most 20 something year olds are too involved with other things like video games and hanging out with their buddy's not reading Vincent's book Helter Skelter and seeing the movie from the 70s. See you're thinking "Who's Vincent?" If you knew her story from being brainwashed on by Charlie that pumped her with LSD when she was a teenager in 69 to today the two people are completely different. She should've been released 10 years ago. Without Google tell me what are the three big trials of the 20th century, and that you religiously studied 🙄
I was also eight and a half months pregnant in August of 1969 but I have a beautiful daughter to show for it. Horrible to think Roman Polanski would have had a son the same age as my daughter.
Her getting out is saying to me as a 10 year old that she can do that and get out of prison. Never forgotten those people who died. Fresh in my memory. GO BACK IN. The fact that she's been alive all these years is that she's been out the whole time in the world still which is more than a whole lot of people can accept. Those people didn't have 53 years or any more years. Go back in. She's had more than she's entitled to already.
If a child is considering mvrdering people just because someone else did it and got out after 53 years, then they're a burgeoning psychopath who was going to commit mvrder no matter what.
I share your sentiment. I was little then, too. I was raised in CA and it was a terrifying event for the entire nation. It traumatized the entire country. She was released by people who have no first hand memory of the event, no doubt.
@@davemathews7890 I understood Cindy's comment. She is saying she was 10 when it happened. I was little when it happened, as well. Cindy and I have first hand memories of the event as we heard it on the news as little kids. As adults we cannot imagine anyone letting her out. She does not deserve to ever be on the streets.
Oh, the poor thing. She was mind controlled by Manson. She's evil and she'd do it again in a heartbeat. What the hell is wrong with our justice system. This is unacceptable.
This was an abomination to human life. NO ONE DESERVES FREEDOM THAT WAS INVOLVED. DISGUSTING and a complete loss of consideration of the victims and their loved ones.
Knew a women who used to work at the prison where this women was incarcerated. Said she was absolutely charming and absolutely untrustworthy and should never be released.
One silver lining is that the families can quit attending parole hearings for her. The fact they have to do so every few years, means that they have been serving this sentence almost as much as the murderers have. That's the worst miscarriage of justice all these years. They have had to show up constantly at hearings to ensure that justice continues to be served. This is now a waste of all the families' time and effort all these years. But at least they don't have to do it for her anymore. Best thing they can do with Tex Watson and Krenwinkel is remove their chances of parole and let the families rest. But I guess they are legally stuck following the criteria of this lame 50-year-old sentence.
She’s a textbook sociopath! That’s not treatable, she got off on murdering butchering people then sang and giggled for months! Manson and drugs didn’t create her sociopathy it merely brought it out! Even now, cold dead affect and narcissism, she’s a robot mimicking human behaviors she never feels! To manipulate and get what she wants, look up sociopathy!
The defense claims according to the corner she was already dead when she stabbed her. But I don’t believe that, first class of entitled little rich girl
@@danjamil167 I don’t want to bring race into anything. Entitled is entitled. She had a good family had every advantage in life, she was bored? Come on! How many of us are bored, and don’t join cults or murder people.
@@julesjay424 yeah I understand what ur saying but I think the factors that led her into it don't matter anymore... I'm just trying to think of what factors contributed to her ever being released after being convicted of participating in such a gruesome premeditated slaughter fest.
I cannot believe she was let out she is a cold blooded murderer and always will be. How sad for the Tate family and what does this say to all people who want to commit crimes like this just DISGUSTING all around!!!
She didn't kill Sharon Tate. She was nowhere near the Tate house when Sharon was murdered. Jeez, try to educate yourself before making uniformed comments.
Why does everyone only talk about Sharon Tate? Do you people even know the names of the other victims? Probably not. She did not take part in the TATE murders. Also she is the only 1 that has shown remorse and has been rehabilitated.
@@Helen-ml3pu Mostly true. However, most Manson followers who went to prison later denounced him and expressed remorse for their crimes. Most of them, in fact, converted to Christianity. Only "Squeaky" Fromme and Sandra Goode still seem to be hardcore believers.
She’s a murderer who has been known to report enjoying the stabbing and killing of people and seen in court laughing about it. She can’t blame Manson for the joy she got out of killing. She wasn’t brainwashed by him, rather she found her equal in Manson and she is a true psychopath. There were other young adults who ran away from Manson bc they didn’t want to commit murder and other heinous crimes, but LVH didn’t. In one of her earlier interviews she said in a calm, polite voice, “I can’t feel sorry for what I did, they were just bodies” - she’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing The question shouldn’t be whether or not she’s a danger today, the focus needs to be she’s a murderer and therefore needed to serve her life sentence for taking another’s life and forever causing pain and anguish to her victims families. A couple of her past parole hearings have popped up since her release, in those hearings she calmly admits to stabbing Rosemary Labianca “numerous times” not once “numerous”. She also plays the victim in these hearings and blames her actions on Manson taking minimal to no responsibility - she has a flat affect, not a single sign of real emotion shown or tear shed for her victims and their families. She’s the definition of a psychopath. What’s next? Lori Vallow is released in 20 yrs bc she says she’s sorry and Chad made her do it. Setting a very bad precedent letting LVH go free no matter what her age.
@@annodomini7250 you need to learn the facts - she admits to killing Rosemary Labianca - she admits to stabbing her 14 times and the poor woman was still alive when she was stabbing her and engaged in cutting up her body - It’s on a recording when she was first interrogated as well as her parole hearings You must be a psychopath yourself to even care to defend such a psychopath
@@Hope-xl3qm Yes I need to learn the facts....I have studied the case for forty years, how about you? She never touched a living person she stabbed the already dead Rosemary LaBianca. I guess you are Gen Z not even alive when the murders took place.
@@fatamorgana1470 realy? how long have you studied this case? I guess you have read all the trial papers? been in contact maybe with the so called Family members (there was no Family cult but you know that right?)? oops, I have, and to put the icing on the cake 43 years of studying and researching this case. So your opinion is valueless, you are irrelevant. When you can match me in study and research then I will consider your opinions on me or the case...I will probably be dead before you do.
Leslie Van Houten is not a victim. She was old enough to know that murder is wrong. She chose to do it. Everyone does stupid things when they are young, and they make mistakes, but brutal murder does not fit in that category. I am sure that there are others who were involved with Charles Manson who didn't have it in them to become murderers. Plenty of people have been in cults who did not kill others. Plenty of people used drugs such as acid, or LSD and they didn't kill people. The Manson women have portrayed themselves as victims all of these years. Maybe it eases their own conscience somewhat.
The law under which she was sentenced to death was ruled unconstitutional. Her retrial resulted in a hung jury, a few jurors thinking she should have been convicted only of manslaughter. After her final trial and conviction, she was sentenced to 25 to life.
I'm a 47 Year old French man so obviously, all I know about 1969 in USA came to me from films, music and testimonies. Yet I see this era in USA as the turning point from an extreme to the other extreme with nothing in between to moderate it. I see it very much as gas on one end and a candlelit on the other end. The encounter promised to be explosive.Love and hatred and one man to make the most of this chaos and all to his own privilege. Charles Manson. France knew an equivalent in 1968 but this clash between generations in the American culture could only lead up to that sort of tragedy. It always has and always will. This is what triggers wars.Why do you think Manson carved a swastika on his forehead ? Would you blame today's German people because their parents and grand-parents blindly believed and followed a miserable but resentful failed artist named Adolf Hitler ? Isn't it kind of a weird coincidence that both Hitler and Manson both were failed and resentful artists ? All of this paved the way to the arising of people like Manson and subsequently its followers just like humanity paves the way to wars. We are now paving the way to some future tragedies thinking we're making the world a better place. Freeing Leslie Van Houten establishes Manson's mind control as a cult leader. None of its followers was meant to kill anybody in the way they did had they not been under his mind control. We all do things that we don't want to do just because someone with a badge told us to do so. Don't we ?. We all obey someone because he or she holds a title and the power that came along with it. Manson's followers all found themselves at the very wrong place at the very wrong time, in a certain era were everyone was seeking love and they met Manson. Others like them in search of the same things met someone else and didn't kill anybody. I don't see John Lennon as a nice person either. He was a talented phony and a bully. Nothing else. He made the most of the situation in his own way but he was a misogynistic bastard who mocked disabled people while on stage. Yet, he is somehow remembered as a "peace and love icon" because followers are blind and prone to forgive anything their idol does or says. His public actions paved the way to his death and eventually he got killed by someone who happened to be going through the same path than Manson's followers.
I agree. You are viewing this from a larger perspective. They were all victims of a larger mindwash program intended to end the hippie cultural revolution before it hit worldwide momentum. And that it did very efficiently. People who have never been in a cult will never understand these issues and will only simplify in terms of "being guilty or not guilty"!
What a slap in the face to the victims and their surviving family members! Will Van Houten cause more trouble or commit new crimes? Unlikely. I can only hope that there is zero interest in her story and that she is ignored by society.
Not me. I want her to be silently watched by her neighbors. I want her to be shunned. When she goes shopping I want people to point and whisper about her. When she picks up something I want her to see people throw it away. I want reporters following her, asking how it felt to stab a pregnant woman to death.
@selfcare4667 who's a hater that is juvenile label. She's a murderer and unfortunately, the children found the parents slaughtered. Now, if they want to release a murderer Jeffrey Dahmer and Jesse Anderson, killer Christopher Scarver Sr . He has schizophrenia with religious ideation. I only feel for the victim's family of Steve Lomax
@@nicolebailey4426 she did a LOT of fucking time...I truly believe some of the snot-noses around here cannot even grasp the meaning of 5 and a half decades in the joint..
She should walk through the crime scenes and see if she can remember stabbing a sharp object into her victim. Too many still clearly remember, it was SO morbid “ I knew people would die” “ “ about 16 times” Says without any emotion Psychopath
That monster Leslie stabbed poor innocent Mrs. Labianca in the back 16 times. Leslie was sentenced to death in 1970 I can't believe our weak liberal democrat government letting this murdering monster Leslie walk free a total Injustice. R.I.P To all the Innocent victims Leslie and the Manson people took away from this world Hopefully Leslie does not get any peace and quiet On the outside in society.
If I was in her shoes and I was truly repentant, I would BEG to remain in prison. Because I would know in my heart that there are more than 3 people who didn't make it this far because of me. I would know that even if I am fully reformed, I am not worthy of being part of a free world after I took that freedom from 7 innocent, living human beings. I would know that THIS is where I belong.
I concur with you 100%. If these people were truly regretful of their heinous crimes they would acknowledge their sentences as deserving and pray to God for forgiveness. Tex Watson has been denied parole 18 times he says he is a born-again Christian but I believe he is a fraud. As I previously stated if he was truly ''born- again'' he should realise he does not deserve parole and should never have continued applying for it over the decades.
@@b.1162 I think so. Life sentence in my country is usually around 20-25 years. Still they call it life sentence. Usually they're out on probation after serving 2/3 of the sentence. After more than 50 years you have lost most of your life. But in this case, I don't know. From what I've read they changed the death sentence to life in prison in the early 70's. So that could be a reason to keep her incarcerated I think. If she had been on death row now for fifty years she wouldn't be released on parole. The fact that she is alive is enough pardon maybe.
@@jamiedunson7446 If it was a look back at the Manson slayings, they should have put a picture of Manson. AFAIK Leslie was guilty of stabbing someone who was already dead at the insistence of Tex Watson
If they are truly sorry then they should stop going to try and get parole. At the very least let the family and friends have some peace so they do not have to work so hard to keep them in jail.
Then you and the public are no different that what she was when she was young and drugged out of her mind. What do you think you will attract in this world with such a mindset?
@@ExiledStardust Leslie?? Lol...some one had one drink too many from the cleaning cabinet! Shouldn't do that. It makes you see stuff that is not there. Makes you imagine things. Its called paranoia.
7 dead including Sharon Tate's unborn child right? None of them should have ever gotten.out of jail! It's supposed to be Life for the murder of 1 person? It's so stupid to run 7 deaths of 7 different peoples sentences concurrent, it should be consecutive!
What I have to say would NOT even be close to a nice comment & would also be directed at the monsters who allowed this wild animal out. I would most definitely be banned from UA-cam if I shared my true feelings...
More about the monsters who programmed her guru, the crazy Manson to give you sleepless nights, to put fear in your heart and make the world seem a dangerous place.
Saying you’re sorry for your part, is not the same thing as saying you’re sorry for going there with an intention to kill and then holding down a lady and stabbing her.
If you want to be a model prisoner, do your time. Ok, you got off death row,but do your time. David Berkowitz AKA, the Son of Sam, doesn't go to his parole meetings. I quote him saying it's not fair to families. I don't know his heart, but he says he turned his life to Christ. Being a model prisoner is trying to help those in prison not to follow the wrong path.
The trial was a tour de force for prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi. His 1974 book “Helter Scelter” is quite good. Also enjoyed his 2008 book “The Prosecution of George W Bush for Murder”
My college friend and I were amazed at his bravery, there was a judge who was murdered by the family, or disappeared, bugliosi had balls of steel to go after justice
This is horrendous.
I’m sorry to all the victims and their families.
AMEN
Lol coming from you, that’s rich
it happened 50 years ago moron..
@@Kelly-mi1yzwhat!?
same here this is horrendous!
None of those people should ever see daylight. It wasn't murder, it was slaughter.
Absolutely right. You defined an act that should never see parole. It was slaughter.
Strangers die everyday.🤷♂️
all 5 of them needed to have been dealt with decades ago!
you know nothing
Great description. I don't care she had 53 years, but neither did her victims..Yes I know she didn't killed Sharon Tate's unborn baby, but she killed Mrs Labianca, who had a 15 year old child Unfortunately, the children discovered their bloody parents. People say to me I'm too emotional. I couldn't imagine the families pain. Someone said the Tate's family wouldn't care. That's insensitive they cared because it still a gross memory of their sister and unborn baby. RIP to all the victims 🙏
normal people cannot stab anyone 16 times, so no, she should not be free
You mean normal people high on LSD, speed and the mindwash program of crazy Manson. Oh you better think again. Such a cocktail would push anyone during the height of the hippie cultural revolution to do anything. You think to much of yourself and others because you have never been in a cult.
You’d be extremely surprised
@@eureka5407 Today we have Trump.
Under the right mind control yea they can
@@CasperChi I said normal using the standard definition that that means you're not currently impaired
Poor Debra Tate. None of these people should ever be released. They're all murders.
Debra was the one left of the Tate family. She lived her whole life in the shadow of her sister's murder.
She is still alive, Sharon Tate is who I feel sorry for. It’s not justice for Debra it’s for Sharon that wasn’t fully served. Her soul can’t rest.
@@coryhernandez508 "Her soul can't rest" - who are you to say that?
Your daddy
Who are you to question what I said. It’s an opinion that I believe. Who are you to think you can question me?? You can’t act like (who are you) while your telling me something. Who the hell are you?!?!?!?! Exactly!!! No body at all!!!
The Manson murderers should NOT have been resentenced to life WITH parole---it should have been life WITHOUT parole.
It wasn’t an option in 1972
@@rongenung they originally got the death penalty until California outlawed it in 1972.
EXACTLY!!!!!
This is horrible. That woman shouldn't even be allowed to open her mouth and speak, let alone be released from prison.
I’m glad she’s out!
Mixed feelings- she was brainwashed too an extent and she seems like she has been a very changed person for many years,
It’s one thing to be brainwashed and it’s another to actually have it in you to be able to purposely kill a human being and have no remorse. It’s part of who you are as a person
I think she’s more to blame than Manson I don’t think you can be brainwashed to kill somebody that way and young people go off the rails yes but they don’t kill not like this you are still responsible for your actions at the age they were she had a family she could back to for support so no she should have died in jail
Manson denying making anybody do anything…crazy man never had any remorse for anything
Disgusting she ever was allowed out of jail. The victims families got no justice.
The families did not get justice, and neither did the rest of us. She is evil incarnate. She butchered Rosemary LaBianca. The fact she has seen daylight as a free woman is a total failure.
Prison isn't only about justice, it's mostly about rehabilitation
phoenixmodellingphotography Anyone who commits murder it shouldn’t be about rehabilitation only punishment. They made their choice to commit murder
@@georgialee6755 There are different murderers out there. Some who don't care and enjoy the kill/hunt, some who kill out of fear and frustration, kill out of sudden passion, and killers who like these sorry souls were high on LSD and other drugs plus the mindwash of crazies like Manson. Those aren't even real killers, or otherwise said. All of us could be turned into killers having received such a cocktail.
No justice? Tex Watson is never going to be released (and he knows it) Krenwinkle will probably never be released. Atkins and Manson both died in jail and van Houten spent over 40 years behind bars. It's not like they all got off scott-free.
Horrendous. How did it go from a life sentence to being paroled? Leslie Van Houton and the rest of the Manson Family changed the culture of Los Angeles. People started locking their doors and trust of strangers needed. Her crime was not only the horrible murder but far reaching effects on our society. She hasn’t served her sentence. I have no empathy for he.
Her sentence was 25 to life. Parole was always a possibility after her final trial.
@@GH-oi2jf her original sentence was the death penalty. Stabbing Abigail Folger 16 times in the back.
Agree. i have nothing for her and her fellow killers. may they join manson and atkins in hell.
I believe they will be held accountable by God.
@emilieraphael4431 but she did a crime , heinous at that she should do her time.
She is lucky to be out at all. I remember when it happened. Horrible.
Sadly, things have only gotten worse since.
Now we have a whole political party that is a cult.
I have to say, the older I have gotten, the more someone who is19-22 are still babies to me.
I have seen drugs cloud the mind of even some of the best people.
I think they should be punished, and they have.
She is not a risk to society.
@@moniqueengleman873read the comments, there's so many people practically idolizing these people, THATS the danger. History repeats itself...
@@heydeanie the comments I read were like kill her and keep her in prison forever. She is not a risk to society as long as she has a good support system. She served her time. She was so young and easily influenced back then.
@@moniqueengleman873 time will tell
.. remember this conversation when the copycat killings start...
Republican Party is a cult.
Of all of them….Manson was the true psycho. They allowed a complete lunatic to “advise” them. Wow. Even doing his dirty work. Imagine.
He made them sing Imagine? I think I'm gonna be sick...
Hitler had done it before. He mesmerized an entire nation into savage murderers. The Germans were regular people as you might find in any village or town. The postman, a grocer, an innkeeper, a farmer. Before, they were simple average people. Never forget the past!
They found their equal in Manson. I don't understand why it's hard for some people to believe that. Others left as soon as they realized the group's true intentions.
@@fatamorgana1470 Manson was a MK Ultra victim himself. He was no ones equal. He was programmed to reek havoc and chaos which was a success. He did put an end to the hippie cultural revolution that's for sure. His followers were just sorry sods who got mindwashed themselves with LSD, speed and other methods of manipulation.
Birds of a feather flock together.
A disgrace that she is released. She is a monster. Justice for the victims.
a monster who killed not a single person?
@@annodomini7250 Van Houten stabbed her approximately 16 times in the back and the exposed buttocks. But even if she wasn't who pulled the trigger she was part of the murder in her own will so she is also responsible.
@@edinak5805 that's right 16 stabs to the lower back into a dead woman, Tex said to her she had to get her 'hands dirty', Tex had already killed Mrs. La Bianca. What trigger? there were no guns involved. Knives and forks so to speak.
@@annodomini7250 Trigger was symbolic it means any weapon. She was willingly part of this action and she knew why they had gone there, so she is just as guilty as the others even if she didn't take part in the stabbing that she did. And at the court, she didn't look like a poor victim of a cult, she had that huge smile and was singing, showing no remorse at all.
@@edinak5805 there was no cult, did you not realize this with all the knowledge you have. Who killed the victims Tex Watson except for one of them over the two nights, Abigail was killed by Katie you will know her by the name Patricia Krenwinkel the murders were orchestrated by one man...Charles Tex Watson. Middle class America could not have their children killing people, I know lets blame it on the older jailbird who lives on the ranch, the truth is your children were taught to kill by their government in Vietnam, what were 7 people over two nights compared to the 100's of thousands Vietnamese killed. The media created The Manson Family along with the Bug, sure we saw each other as brothers and sisters just like Christians do and yes we viewed each other as family but no Manson Family Cult existed that was your and the society you belong to projection it was the shadow side of your natures, the darkness you project on to others to escape your own responsibility for the crimes.
She should have never been released from prison. I don't care how much time she served already. What a miscarriage of justice.
People have done a lot worse than her (stabbing a woman who was already dead/dying) and gotten off a lot earlier. She was kept in longer because of the notoriety of the crime. The miscarriage was keeping her in longer, despite multiple recommendations for parole, because of bad press. People like you who don't know the details of her case sharing their ignorant opinions.
To go from death penalty to life to parole says everything you need to know about our so-called criminal justice system.
Yes, sometimes it works.
.....For some
Yes You Are Right About The Justice System. But Debra Honey Believe Me THE VENGANCE IS THE LORDS. They Will Not Get Away With It When Jesus Comes His Second Coming And...Remember, We Will Be All Reunited In His Second Coming And We Get To Stand With Jesus And We Get To See All Evil Fall. Souls And All Rejoice Dear Debra. Our Day Is Coming To See It All Happen And I Pray To Stand Next To You When Judgement And Real Justice Is Being Served Against The Enemies And All Who Are With The Lord Will See Them Fall And We will All Live On Earth And Is In Heaven When Combined. God Bless You Sweet Debra. Jesus Is With Us...And He Is For Us
She went from a death sentence to 25-to-life to parole.
she served 50 years.
She should have never been released.! My heart breaks for all her victims families. I’m not saying she isn’t reformed , but she needs to pay for the rest of her life. This is insane.
she stabbed a death body she did not kill anyone
@@Angelruggieri86she conspired, it doesn’t matter if she did absolutely nothing. Knowing what was going to happen, and doing nothing to stop it, makes her just as guilty as everyone who you think played a bigger part. Stabbing a dead person, that’s her story
@@johnnyslc so 50+ years doesn't satisfy your idea of fair punishment?
@@cinerama5nope sure doesn’t. Should have a life sentence no parole.
@@Angelruggieri86 She gave credence and cover to those who did. She participated in a conspiracy to commit murder. She knew what was done to Sharon Tate, and set out to do it better, to murder better. She then told people it was fun.
She committed a brutal and savage crime. It took decades for her to admit guilt and take responsibility for her actions. If she is released, who then deserves the Death Penalty or life in prison?? The floodgates are now open for prison release of terrible criminals. What a disgrace!! Our laws mean nothing and the government is unable to protect its citizens.
To be released from incarceration, certain criteria and behaviour must be exhibited by the criminal. The flood gates will not open, since not all criminals will meet the required criteria and behaviour. The problem of administering the death penalty is when an incent person is convicted of a crime(s). Once executed, the innocent person cannot come back to society.
It didn't take decades, just a few years to get unbrainwashed to realize the damage she did. She took responsibility soon after. I listened to her own words on a podcast from prison. It did however take decades for the parole board to see her remorse. But you also have the victims family fighting against it which is 100% understandable. I believe God is the reason she's out now. Prayer changes lives and circumstances.
I can’t believe the criminal loving society we’ve turned into. Sick twisted. Worse than the criminals themselves.
Whether she did or didn't admit, listen how disaffected and disconnected she sounds as she recounts something horrific and heinous. Like she is picking groceries. I cry at commercials. I cry every time I watch missing shows or true crime. These people don't have ANY feeling. Why should she get released? Thanks a-holes.
@@edwinswift2646 She's out, I think she should've been released 20 years ago, and this isn't the UK what do you know about American court
Our criminal justice sucks.
I know they can't even get Trump to prison.
Or Hunter and creepy Joe Biden.
@@cinerama5oh, they will!
@@pamelaleigh4225Oh I bet 😂
cinerama5 More so the Clintons and they’re releasing murderers in NY
Let’s ask the LaBianca’s how they feel about her release…oh yeah. They’re dead.
Or The Folger’s Family. Remember they killed Abigail Folgers, the heiress of Folgers coffee. And how they did Sharon Tate and Her baby whom she was pregnant with. Just disgusting
@@cynthiadean19 that’s irrelevant to my point. Van Houten wasn’t present at the Tate murders.
@@billythekidder7182 It doesn't matter. She was there the 2nd night and stabbed that poor woman to death. She admitted to that.
@@billythekidder7182 re: "that’s irrelevant to my point."
You actually argue with people that agree with you?
@@RSF-DiscoveryTime you have trouble with comprehension don’t you?
She never should have been let out.
That is not justice.
Think about this for a moment...bank robbery occurs and one of the 4 robbers shoots and kills 2 people. All of the robbers contributed to their deaths even though they didn't pull the trigger and they all get life in prison w/o parole. Only one pulled the trigger but they are ALL responsible for the taking of another human life. That was a decision they made and the sentence should be enforced regardless of how well they acted in prison. Could they be a different person after so many years behind bars? Maybe, but is it fair and justice served to the people who were killed? They don't get a do over...they're dead. I'm glad Van Houten has remorse but that doesn't mean she should ever be free. Remember, she stabbed Rosemary LaBianca 16 times...clap your hands 16 times to get an idea of how many times she purposely pushed a knife into Rosemarys lower back...that is a tremendous amount of physical exertion and desire to ensure the death of another human. She should NEVER be free to walk with law abiding citizens again regardless of her accomplishments or "Model Prisoner" designation while incarcerated. Do the crime...do the time. All of it.
Justice will never be fully "served to the people they killed". Quit being all rhetorical and hyperbolic. If you think someone who was willfully hands-on in a murder, far more than another separate person but still think they're both somehow just as guilty then that indicates that your brain is not working properly. The wiles of your idealist and logically shaky imagination do not dictate how judicial-based criminal sentencing works either. I know you're not that young (because for some reason older generations almost all type like that; same grammatical tone and everything) but you still come off as juvenile.
@@Ryan88881 Hmmm...I'm trying to figure out what your motivation is to respond to my comments. Rhetorical? Hyperbolic? What? Here's my take...it's pretty obvious you consider yourself the smartest person in the room and can't wait to spew out some ridiculous word salad in order to appear smarter than you actually are. Here's an idea...1-take a nap. 2-take another nap. And finally, 3-stop commenting when the adults are talking. Most important though, don't forget the naps...they won't help you at all but at least keep you from tapping out goofy word babble. You're welcome.
@@ericargo9157 Ok if you processed and perceived those fairly plain and standard handful of sentences as reading like "word salad", or somehow counting as a prolix display then I think there really is something wrong with someone's brain. I wont say it's you, but I will type it. You wanna try that one again Mr. 'adult'
Agreed
@@Ryan88881Er, no, they don't. However, you come across as an apologist for murderers.
This is sickening that she was released
why? a woman who did not kill anyone.
@@annodomini7250she was involved in the LaBianca murders. She stabbed them.
@@Ptownmarc you are wrong, she stabbed the corpse of Rosemary LaBianca after Watson had killed her and you would know this if you had read about the case and the trial papers, which I guess you have not.
@annodomini7250 Did you watch the video? Leslie said she stabbed Mrs LaBianca 16 times in the back. She absolutely killed someone. Charlie is the one who never killed any one he just told them to do it
@@Greyseabee Yes she stabbed Mrs LaBianca 16 times....after she was already dead. Charlie told no one to do anything. he ordered no one to kill anyone.
Tex had a lot of blood on his hands. He is complete sociopath. Hope he never gets out.
He’ll die in prison
Tex is now a man of the cloth. God has forgiven him and so should we. Let him be free.
And there you go….another psycho to be released being defended by psychos.
@@Johndoe345-k2dGod may have forgave him.. but he still needs to be in priosn for what he did..
@@Johndoe345-k2d they all hide behind religion. Only they say they are forgiven by god. Making up the rules for themselves.
This woman shldve NEVER seen the light of day!!!!
Memory is an important thing as any Holocaust survivor will tell you. I re-call the Sixties very well. I was dis-affected, too, but I was lucky, I learned what my parameters were. I managed to stay away from hard drugs, abusive relationships, cults, crazies, and the like. For me, the Sixties died in 1969, when the Manson Family went on their rampage. Leslie Van Houten's release from prison is an injustice to all of those who were murdered and the families who have suffered because of their actions for over a half century. Let's hope that this will not set a dangerous precedent. The idea of killing a person in cold blood and somehow getting away with murder is repulsive. The dead are given no second chances.
It was the darkside of 60s, sure...that and other criminal cases..
@selfcare4667 well, that is about the most useless idiotic comment so far..
You are right about the 60s dying. Any American who watched National Nws over the age of 9 was probably deeply traumatized by these wicked events.
@@jessiejoseph1093 I was such a big dummy in the Sixties. Imagine believing that a world filled with: peace. love and understanding was ever going to come to pass?
9? I remember everyone around me ie adults freaking out about Nov 22 1963....I was less than 3yo but still got that something big had happened to someone important and it wasn't good..
How horrible it was and to set any one free is wrong they literally butchered other people and they will never be.
Leslie stabbed a dead person, horrific but 54 years isn't enough for you?
@@cinerama5 nice to see another who knows the case.
None of them should even have a parole hearing available. They all should have had death penalty or life period.
They did get it. But the death penalty was ended in that state that year or the year after. Probably the architects thought the impact on society would be greater if they were not killed off!
8:06: Correction: Tex Watson stabbed Sharon Tate as Susan Atkins held her arms behind her back.
Not according to her own testimony. She later denied it saying Tex did it. She said in this video she felt nothing.
Leslie is the only one who shows remorse.
Not correct. Susan redacted that statement during the trial and said that Tex was the one who killed Sharon. Whether that’s true or not who knows but I don’t take anything she says for word.
@@chelceemills854 IT'S SHE RETRACTED HER STATEMENT.
@@Julia67126 why are you yelling? She redacted her statement she edited her statement to appeal to the court. Retracted means the statement was taken out completely which isn’t accurate.
Tex is a pretty scary sociopath he enjoyed killing. I hope he never gets out.
Her release is very upsetting. She butchered those people.
Actually she did not
@@Chris-f8j4q She described it as fun
@@Chris-f8j4q That's not what the law says. It's called criminal conspiracy to murder; she is as guilty as the others who held the knives, no matter if the first stab or the 80th stab happened to be the killing blow.
@@markfilipas1763 i simply said , " she did not butcher them " . Can u comprehend ?
@@Chris-f8j4q if you don't think that her stabbing Rosemary Labianca 16 times is butchering, then your and my definitions of that word are worlds apart.
She should not have been set free. It’s not right.
It doesnt matter to me if she is "reformed". She murdered someone. Things are over after that.
Rehabilitation is part of the prison program, and luckily for society it is not up to how you feel cutie pie.
Agree, and the victims’ families are living a life sentence bc of her actions
@@thesummerland6165 You are too melodramatic. They are living a life sentence? She was a kid on drugs and strongly manipulated. She is not that same person now.
I am offended that this killer is free. She can play the senior citizen role but is still a murderer.
Its only fair you should be personally offended. What else can you get offended about?
@@CT2507
She helped murder a pregnant woman, plus others.
I don’t think she ever should have been allowed out of prison. Not unless it was in a coffin.
These types are always susceptible to the same behavior due to the handicap that doesn't allow them to feel empathy in some environments
Lol...its good most people are like you then. Feeling empathy for everyone around ;)
She said all the right things about remorse and accountability with all the emotion of someone talking about any normal day. I don't think she should have been released.
exactly she conned all the authorities public health psychologists those people are dense
Yeah I guess you really need to see a woman crying to get off, huh?
No, just some semblance of remorse.@@phoenixmodellingphotography
It is a slap in the face of the victims' families. It was a death sentence commuted to life. . .with the possibility of parole. It should have been a life sentence.
Horrified they let her out
I feel for the victims’ families. My heart and prayers go out to them. 🙏🙏❤️
I bet Debra Tate is seething right now and I don't blamed her one bit. After she, her late mother and late sister, Patti attended every single parole hearing to make sure that none of these killers were ever released into society, Leslie Van Houten is granted her freedom. What a travesty of justice. (Btw, I've read on other YT boards that people who believe as I and the Tate's do are just angry, out-of-touch moralists. Fine if that's what you believe. But let me ask you, what would you do if Van Houten had repeatedly stabbed your father in the back like she did to Leno La Bianca? Would *you* want her walking free as a breeze?).
@@lonelyheroine i couldn't agree with you more 💯💯
@@lonelyheroine someone stupidly told me that the Tate family wouldn't care because she wasn't at Tate murders. I say BS you don't have to be related to someone to care about someone else. Leslie took a part in murdering Mrs Labianca she left behind a 15 year old child. I care and I am not related to this story. Cold blooded murders don't belong in society. Yes Tate's sister does not approve of this decision.
dont forget these families are not in morning most hadn't even been born! its just a show for them to get noticeability, nothing more, they couldn't consider letting any of Mansons followers go until his death, because they would've had to release him to! look at these occult churches today, they are still demanding the sacrifice of children by abortion, and all of them have embraced perversion, Manson had one prediction right that white idiots would allow themselves to be the underdogs as they stupidly lift black gang members up to martyrs and bow down the gang blm flag!, tell me how do you feel when some black ass hole steps in front of you when you are in line or trying to talk to someone! or some black ho tells you to shut up, hasn't happen yet well it will, im black and in my 60s and this generation of black people are centered around gangs their just to arrogant to see it, and eventually it will cause a war you wouldn't believe, one that will claim lives!
@@nicolebailey4426 That is so not true. They appeared at all of Van Houten's parole hearings and together with Stephen Kay (who looked a hell of a lot like Bobby Kennedy back in the day) they managed to keep her behind bars (where she still belongs) up until now. I've signed petitions to keep her locked up, because I felt so incredibly sad for Sharon's mother, Doris Tate. She started an organization for Parents Of Murdered Children and campaigned tirelessly until her untimely death at age 65. There are a number of these heartbreaking videos here on YT. And I am sure that Patti's early demise of breast cancer was partially due to her sister's brutal murder.
I can't believe she is out. This is some bs.
No. No. No. She is a killer. She belongs in prison for the rest of her life.
Once a psycho always a psycho. Don’t let this horrible woman out of prison. She deserves to be locked up the rest of her life.
See to me, those people who feel sorry for how Manson brainwashed these "poor girls" are short-sighted. While he did use the fact that most of these people, girls and boys were somewhat defective or lost or troubled, and it is okay to feel that he did brainwash them with drugs and sexual assault and other things, I just believe that you can't create a person. Meaning, they had to have this somewhere down deep in their bones to do what they did, Manson or not. We all are capable of great and horrible things, but I cannot even relate in any way, shape, or form with these people - even at my lowest and lost points in my life, my most vulnerable, I have never thought of harming others or getting mine. I can't even think of plunging a knife into someone once or shooting someone or hanging them, let alone what they did.
Yep. If you can do what she did, you should NEVER be out of prison. Or live a life. She deserved the death penalty.
She's out fool
Define “psycho”. What she did was horrible but she’s still no Ted Bundy. She’s not even a Susan Atkins or Tex Watson either technically.
@@Ryan88881 she is maybe not on their level of ferocious psychosis, no..I'd be less willing to consider their release, vs her's..anyway, Atkins died probably in agony or full of morphine brain cancer..
It’s so crazy! This woman was born with everything, looks, money, a chance at unlimited education and the possibility of going anywhere and doing anything she wanted to in life, and she wasted every single gift. Nope, life sentence should mean life sentence. Sharon Tate and her son, all those other young people who were so brutally and senselessly slaughtered, shout out to poor Steven Parent, poor 18 year-old kid in the wrong place at the wrong time and in no way connected to any of it, they never got to finish out their lives. That little baby never even got to start his. Not justice to ever let this woman out in society. The LaBiancas, which are the murders she participated in that next night. She’s the one who left the fork sticking out of Leno LaBianca’s stomach, I think. Can’t wrap my mind around the fact she’s out.
I know this is an old post but just for clarity, it was Patricia Krenwinkel who stuck the fork into Mr. La Bianca and left it there.
Leslie was one of those who was present as they terrorized Rosemary LaBianca. She helped Tex & Patricia wrap a lampshade cord around the woman's neck as Rosemary listened to her husband's screams in the living room. They put a pillowcase on her head, Krenwinkel stabbed her while Van Houten held down the victim...The knife bent, and that's when Van Houten helped Watson deliver the stabs, doing her part herself. Each of them left a signature on the slaughter. Look at the girls during the trial. The expressions on their faces, the smiles and gestures to the camera, the indifference when they were questioned. To them it was all a joke.
She wasn’t born with looks that’s for sure .
Life in prison those people she kill are not coming back!!!
She should have NEVER been let out!
What a disgrace to the Tate and Labiancia families 😡😡😡😡
What a DISGRACE !!!!!...they all should be deeply ASHAMED of themselves for releasing that 👿 "woman". Unbelievable
Please make sure you tell your audience what this psychopath did. She and her murderous friends broke into the home of people they'd never met. They separated and tied up the married couple who lived there. They put cloth over their heads and bound them by light cables around their necks and hands. They stabbed Leno LaBianca. His wife heard him scream and screamed what are you doing to my husband? After that murdered both of these lovely people they wrote in their blood on the walls then ate their food and showered in their bathroom. This was one night after their "family" murdered 5 other innocent people including a 8 1/2 month pregnant woman. They laughed, giggled, and taunted the victims and their families during their trial. They were sentenced to death but the SCOTUS abolished the death penalty so they were given life except, of course, now one of the psychopaths has been released. When will Rosemary and Leno be released? When will the 5 Tate victims be released? What about Gary Hinman and Shorty Shea? Never. They terrorized CA and the rest of the country for months before they finally got them and now one of them is free. It's an absolute obscenity. I say all this for young people who don't know the entire history of this horror. May she never know peace.
You are only focusing on the top of the iceberg. The visible and audible part of the snake. Its rattling tail! Which is the least dangerous part of the snake. It is meant to steal your attention away from its head which is the real danger.
They should never ever walk free - ever- any of them.
I'm curious to see how people treat her now that she's been released. She just said she was an empty shell of a person when it all happened. 3:41 What this tells me is she had absolutely no remorse when it happened. In other words, she's trying to play the victim. This makes me sick! The crimes they committed were absolutely vicious and cold-blooded. These people literally told the victims they were going to kill them before they committed the crime. 😡😡
no, maybe no remorse, originally..maybe she was one of those bitch zombies with lesbo haircuts singing those loony songs on way to/from the court...but...THIS NOW is a long time beyond THAT time..
"She just said she was an empty shell of a person when it all happened. 3:41 What this tells me is she had absolutely no remorse when it happened."
Yes you could say that. But being that they were all high on LSD, speed and the mindwash of Manson, that should make you think that she had no will of her own. That she was an empty tool to be used.
I'm still stunned by her release.
Take your finger out of the light socket then
@@m42037 and put van houtens finger in.
@@melgrant7404 You are only a Gen Z you know nothing about her or the case, only that people were killed 50 year's ago
@@m42037 I do know about her case when ever I was born. What difference does age make when the info on the case is well known to everyone.
@@melgrant7404 Because most 20 something year olds are too involved with other things like video games and hanging out with their buddy's not reading Vincent's book Helter Skelter and seeing the movie from the 70s. See you're thinking "Who's Vincent?" If you knew her story from being brainwashed on by Charlie that pumped her with LSD when she was a teenager in 69 to today the two people are completely different. She should've been released 10 years ago. Without Google tell me what are the three big trials of the 20th century, and that you religiously studied 🙄
When I went there I knew people would die.Hello.
You are only looking at the tip of the iceberg.
I was also eight and a half months pregnant in August of 1969 but I have a beautiful daughter to show for it. Horrible to think Roman Polanski would have had a son the same age as my daughter.
She didn't kill Sharon Tate.
And a wife!
@selfcare4667 I know, Breeders, right?
I felt so bad for him how horrifying to come home to this!
Roman Polanski the child rapist ??
He should have been locked up himself
So ridiculous that she was released.
Her getting out is saying to me as a 10 year old that she can do that and get out of prison. Never forgotten those people who died. Fresh in my memory. GO BACK IN. The fact that she's been alive all these years is that she's been out the whole time in the world still which is more than a whole lot of people can accept. Those people didn't have 53 years or any more years. Go back in. She's had more than she's entitled to already.
You're not 10 years old, unless your mother put you up to writing this.
If a child is considering mvrdering people just because someone else did it and got out after 53 years, then they're a burgeoning psychopath who was going to commit mvrder no matter what.
I share your sentiment. I was little then, too. I was raised in CA and it was a terrifying event for the entire nation. It traumatized the entire country. She was released by people who have no first hand memory of the event, no doubt.
@@davemathews7890 I understood Cindy's comment. She is saying she was 10 when it happened. I was little when it happened, as well. Cindy and I have first hand memories of the event as we heard it on the news as little kids. As adults we cannot imagine anyone letting her out. She does not deserve to ever be on the streets.
@@b.1162 IT'S MURDERING AND MURDER.
They should've left her in there...
Oh, the poor thing. She was mind controlled by Manson. She's evil and she'd do it again in a heartbeat. What the hell is wrong with our justice system. This is unacceptable.
What's unacceptable that you were born? 🚬🥴
@mailalias3195 agree. What possible use is this woman to anyone.
Life is not a fairy-tale. She's not evil. She did something horrific though, more than 50 years ago. So...
@@melgrant7404 they say she is going to get good job offers...working in prison rehabilitation, my guess...
@@KateLicker absolute joke.
This was an abomination to human life. NO ONE DESERVES FREEDOM THAT WAS INVOLVED. DISGUSTING and a complete loss of consideration of the victims and their loved ones.
Knew a women who used to work at the prison where this women was incarcerated. Said she was absolutely charming and absolutely untrustworthy and should never be released.
Lol... like most women.
So she kept up that act for 53 years huh! What an actor!
@@CT2507 you mean like most men right, looking at the actual crime stats?
People want rehabilitation for inmates. When someone like Leslie does, you choose not to accept it.
One silver lining is that the families can quit attending parole hearings for her. The fact they have to do so every few years, means that they have been serving this sentence almost as much as the murderers have. That's the worst miscarriage of justice all these years. They have had to show up constantly at hearings to ensure that justice continues to be served. This is now a waste of all the families' time and effort all these years. But at least they don't have to do it for her anymore. Best thing they can do with Tex Watson and Krenwinkel is remove their chances of parole and let the families rest. But I guess they are legally stuck following the criteria of this lame 50-year-old sentence.
They’ll be released soon. This is a test run.
Psychos running the “Justice system”.
It’s Kalifornia.
She served over 50 years for a crime she committed when she was a brainwashed, drugged out 19 year old. I believe redemption is possible.
So do i
She’s a textbook sociopath! That’s not treatable, she got off on murdering butchering people then sang and giggled for months! Manson and drugs didn’t create her sociopathy it merely brought it out! Even now, cold dead affect and narcissism, she’s a robot mimicking human behaviors she never feels! To manipulate and get what she wants, look up sociopathy!
Why would she be realesed she actually stabbed the women!! So many people are enver getting out for lesser crimes!! WTF
The defense claims according to the corner she was already dead when she stabbed her. But I don’t believe that, first class of entitled little rich girl
@@julesjay424 is she rich entitled or just white entitled?
@@danjamil167 I don’t want to bring race into anything. Entitled is entitled. She had a good family had every advantage in life, she was bored? Come on! How many of us are bored, and don’t join cults or murder people.
@@julesjay424 yeah I understand what ur saying but I think the factors that led her into it don't matter anymore... I'm just trying to think of what factors contributed to her ever being released after being convicted of participating in such a gruesome premeditated slaughter fest.
I was a teenager when these murders took place. I never thought that any of the Family would be patrolled.
Patrolled? lol It's paroled.
I cannot believe she was let out she is a cold blooded murderer and always will be. How sad for the Tate family and what does this say to all people who want to commit crimes like this just DISGUSTING all around!!!
She didn't kill Sharon Tate. She was nowhere near the Tate house when Sharon was murdered. Jeez, try to educate yourself before making uniformed comments.
Why does everyone only talk about Sharon Tate? Do you people even know the names of the other victims? Probably not. She did not take part in the TATE murders. Also she is the only 1 that has shown remorse and has been rehabilitated.
@@Helen-ml3pu Mostly true. However, most Manson followers who went to prison later denounced him and expressed remorse for their crimes. Most of them, in fact, converted to Christianity. Only "Squeaky" Fromme and Sandra Goode still seem to be hardcore believers.
@@davemathews7890educate yourself. She was present for LaBianca. Quit protecting murderers
@@Helen-ml3puso where did you get the qualifications to make this proclamation
She’s a murderer who has been known to report enjoying the stabbing and killing of people and seen in court laughing about it. She can’t blame Manson for the joy she got out of killing. She wasn’t brainwashed by him, rather she found her equal in Manson and she is a true psychopath. There were other young adults who ran away from Manson bc they didn’t want to commit murder and other heinous crimes, but LVH didn’t.
In one of her earlier interviews she said in a calm, polite voice, “I can’t feel sorry for what I did, they were just bodies” - she’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing
The question shouldn’t be whether or not she’s a danger today, the focus needs to be she’s a murderer and therefore needed to serve her life sentence for taking another’s life and forever causing pain and anguish to her victims families.
A couple of her past parole hearings have popped up since her release, in those hearings she calmly admits to stabbing Rosemary Labianca “numerous times” not once “numerous”. She also plays the victim in these hearings and blames her actions on Manson taking minimal to no responsibility - she has a flat affect, not a single sign of real emotion shown or tear shed for her victims and their families. She’s the definition of a psychopath.
What’s next? Lori Vallow is released in 20 yrs bc she says she’s sorry and Chad made her do it. Setting a very bad precedent letting LVH go free no matter what her age.
how many people did she stab and kill? none. She stabbed a corpse, if you want to be taken seriously know the facts.
@@annodomini7250 you need to learn the facts - she admits to killing Rosemary Labianca - she admits to stabbing her 14 times and the poor woman was still alive when she was stabbing her and engaged in cutting up her body - It’s on a recording when she was first interrogated as well as her parole hearings
You must be a psychopath yourself to even care to defend such a psychopath
@@Hope-xl3qm Yes I need to learn the facts....I have studied the case for forty years, how about you? She never touched a living person she stabbed the already dead Rosemary LaBianca. I guess you are Gen Z not even alive when the murders took place.
@@annodomini7250What? Go check that there isn't some chemical imbalance in your head, bud.
@@fatamorgana1470 realy? how long have you studied this case? I guess you have read all the trial papers? been in contact maybe with the so called Family members (there was no Family cult but you know that right?)? oops, I have, and to put the icing on the cake 43 years of studying and researching this case. So your opinion is valueless, you are irrelevant. When you can match me in study and research then I will consider your opinions on me or the case...I will probably be dead before you do.
are we suppposed to feel sorry for these people? i think not.
Leslie Van Houten is not a victim. She was old enough to know that murder is wrong. She chose to do it.
Everyone does stupid things when they are young, and they make mistakes, but brutal murder does not fit in that category. I am sure that there are others who were involved with Charles Manson who didn't have it in them to become murderers. Plenty of people have been in cults who did not kill others. Plenty of people used drugs such as acid, or LSD and they didn't kill people. The Manson women have portrayed themselves as victims all of these years. Maybe it eases their own conscience somewhat.
Like Linda who said she could not kill anyone and fled the ranch 2 days later and was able to get her daughter back
Soooo.. why is she still alive? Death row means you die for the crime you committed.
The law under which she was sentenced to death was ruled unconstitutional. Her retrial resulted in a hung jury, a few jurors thinking she should have been convicted only of manslaughter. After her final trial and conviction, she was sentenced to 25 to life.
@@GH-oi2jffew jurors….you spelled that wrong…few psychotics
They were all on death row. The death penalty was terminated in that state shortly after these killings. Which makes you wonder.
She needs to be in prisión for the rest of her life😡😡😡
You kill - no parole ever!
What she did was unforgivable but I'm glad she's finally been released.
Entering prison in 1969 and being released in 2024, would compare to leaving the Earth and going to a entirely different Solar System.
None of them should ever get out of incarceration ever ever ever‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
I'm a 47 Year old French man so obviously, all I know about 1969 in USA came to me from films, music and testimonies. Yet I see this era in USA as the turning point from an extreme to the other extreme with nothing in between to moderate it.
I see it very much as gas on one end and a candlelit on the other end. The encounter promised to be explosive.Love and hatred and one man to make the most of this chaos and all to his own privilege. Charles Manson. France knew an equivalent in 1968 but this clash between generations in the American culture could only lead up to that sort of tragedy.
It always has and always will. This is what triggers wars.Why do you think Manson carved a swastika on his forehead ?
Would you blame today's German people because their parents and grand-parents blindly believed and followed a miserable but resentful failed artist named Adolf Hitler ?
Isn't it kind of a weird coincidence that both Hitler and Manson both were failed and resentful artists ? All of this paved the way to the arising of people like Manson and subsequently its followers just like humanity paves the way to wars.
We are now paving the way to some future tragedies thinking we're making the world a better place.
Freeing Leslie Van Houten establishes Manson's mind control as a cult leader. None of its followers was meant to kill anybody in the way they did had they not been under his mind control. We all do things that we don't want to do just because someone with a badge told us to do so. Don't we ?. We all obey someone because he or she holds a title and the power that came along with it.
Manson's followers all found themselves at the very wrong place at the very wrong time, in a certain era were everyone was seeking love and they met Manson. Others like them in search of the same things met someone else and didn't kill anybody.
I don't see John Lennon as a nice person either. He was a talented phony and a bully. Nothing else. He made the most of the situation in his own way but he was a misogynistic bastard who mocked disabled people while on stage. Yet, he is somehow remembered as a "peace and love icon" because followers are blind and prone to forgive anything their idol does or says. His public actions paved the way to his death and eventually he got killed by someone who happened to be going through the same path than Manson's followers.
I agree. You are viewing this from a larger perspective. They were all victims of a larger mindwash program intended to end the hippie cultural revolution before it hit worldwide momentum. And that it did very efficiently.
People who have never been in a cult will never understand these issues and will only simplify in terms of "being guilty or not guilty"!
Despicable
What a slap in the face to the victims and their surviving family members! Will Van Houten cause more trouble or commit new crimes? Unlikely. I can only hope that there is zero interest in her story and that she is ignored by society.
Not me. I want her to be silently watched by her neighbors. I want her to be shunned. When she goes shopping I want people to point and whisper about her. When she picks up something I want her to see people throw it away. I want reporters following her, asking how it felt to stab a pregnant woman to death.
.My grip is she should be punished for her heinous crime do your time because we don't want you in society
@selfcare4667 who's a hater that is juvenile label. She's a murderer and unfortunately, the children found the parents slaughtered. Now, if they want to release a murderer Jeffrey Dahmer and Jesse Anderson, killer Christopher Scarver Sr . He has schizophrenia with religious ideation. I only feel for the victim's family of Steve Lomax
No...I'd be willing to bet she will NOT re-offend..
@@nicolebailey4426 she did a LOT of fucking time...I truly believe some of the snot-noses around here cannot even grasp the meaning of 5 and a half decades in the joint..
They should never have been released, everyone thinks it’s just something in the past but those people were someone’s loved ones
She never should of been released
She should never have been released. But she was never an ''animal''. The most cruel creature on the planet is humans.
Should never be released,inexcusable;animals are way more human and decent.she should rot in prison 👿
She should walk through the crime scenes and see if she can remember stabbing a sharp object into her victim.
Too many still clearly remember, it was SO morbid
“ I knew people would die”
“ “ about 16 times”
Says without any emotion
Psychopath
I didn't see that. I saw lots of emotion.
@@pamelaleigh4225You saw an actress
@@wildcardartsent And what did you see?
So insane!!!
Now days it's simple blame the man just say :"he made me do it " and all your responsibility will be taken away
Bla bla...
She's horrible. She should be in prison forever.
She stabbed another human being several times.. I don’t understand how she can “walked out” jail like that
That monster Leslie stabbed poor innocent
Mrs. Labianca in the back 16 times.
Leslie was sentenced to death in 1970
I can't believe our weak liberal democrat government letting this murdering monster
Leslie walk free a total Injustice.
R.I.P To all the Innocent victims Leslie and the Manson people took away from this world
Hopefully Leslie does not get any peace and quiet
On the outside in society.
IT'S I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW SHE CAN WALK OUT OF PRISON LIKE THAT.
@@Julia67126 Lol... annoyed much!
If I was in her shoes and I was truly repentant, I would BEG to remain in prison. Because I would know in my heart that there are more than 3 people who didn't make it this far because of me. I would know that even if I am fully reformed, I am not worthy of being part of a free world after I took that freedom from 7 innocent, living human beings. I would know that THIS is where I belong.
I concur with you 100%. If these people were truly regretful of their heinous crimes they would acknowledge their sentences as deserving and pray to God for forgiveness. Tex Watson has been denied parole 18 times he says he is a born-again Christian but I believe he is a fraud. As I previously stated if he was truly ''born- again'' he should realise he does not deserve parole and should never have continued applying for it over the decades.
Exactly, but she is a narcissistic sociopath who is mimicking remorse to get what she wants
heartbreaking.
im sorry for the victims and their families, our country has lost it for real this time
Lost what?
She should never have been released!
Only in the United States this would happen
Walking around with a smile after murdering
. In my country it's much worse. Fifty years is still quite a long time
Only in the US would she still be locked behind bars for over 50 years, you mean.
The euros are much worse. Remember the Knox murder in Italy? That killer is already out.
@@b.1162 I think so. Life sentence in my country is usually around 20-25 years. Still they call it life sentence. Usually they're out on probation after serving 2/3 of the sentence. After more than 50 years you have lost most of your life. But in this case, I don't know. From what I've read they changed the death sentence to life in prison in the early 70's. So that could be a reason to keep her incarcerated I think. If she had been on death row now for fifty years she wouldn't be released on parole. The fact that she is alive is enough pardon maybe.
@@at1970- You mean the Kercher murder. Knox was one of the people wrongly accused.
And they let her out
This report is misleading. Leslie Van Houghton was not present at the Tate murders
They didn't mention her until the Labianca's.
@@jamiedunson7446 If it was a look back at the Manson slayings, they should have put a picture of Manson. AFAIK Leslie was guilty of stabbing someone who was already dead at the insistence of Tex Watson
What difference does it make? She stabbed Rosemary Labianca approximately 16 times with cold blood so she shouldn't walk free.
She stabbed a dead body when pressured to.@@edinak5805
I see a difference. You don't. That's okay.@@edinak5805
Will they release Tex and Patricia now too? It's like something from a horror movie.
I thought life in prison meant life in prison
you thought wrong
Not in California. You can help slaughter people in cold blood, yet you'll still get a chance of parole. How f***** up is that?
Never should have released her
Wow 😢 how sad
She should have to rot in prison
She should NEVER have been released. She'll always be a monster.
If they are truly sorry then they should stop going to try and get parole. At the very least let the family and friends have some peace so they do not have to work so hard to keep them in jail.
If she is rehabilitated , than give out the address where your hiding her ,, the public will do the rest .
Then you and the public are no different that what she was when she was young and drugged out of her mind. What do you think you will attract in this world with such a mindset?
@@CT2507 Stop hiding behind sockpuppets, Leslie.
@@ExiledStardust Leslie?? Lol...some one had one drink too many from the cleaning cabinet! Shouldn't do that. It makes you see stuff that is not there. Makes you imagine things. Its called paranoia.
7 dead including Sharon Tate's unborn child right? None of them should have ever gotten.out of jail! It's supposed to be Life for the murder of 1 person? It's so stupid to run 7 deaths of 7 different peoples sentences concurrent, it should be consecutive!
What I have to say would NOT even be close to a nice comment & would also be directed at the monsters who allowed this wild animal out. I would most definitely be banned from UA-cam if I shared my true feelings...
More about the monsters who programmed her guru, the crazy Manson to give you sleepless nights, to put fear in your heart and make the world seem a dangerous place.
They shouldn’t have let them out
Saying you’re sorry for your part, is not the same thing as saying you’re sorry for going there with an intention to kill and then holding down a lady and stabbing her.
More living out of life… so I took someone else’s life.
And she’s still blaming Manson.
If you want to be a model prisoner, do your time. Ok, you got off death row,but do your time. David Berkowitz AKA, the Son of Sam, doesn't go to his parole meetings. I quote him saying it's not fair to families. I don't know his heart, but he says he turned his life to Christ. Being a model prisoner is trying to help those in prison not to follow the wrong path.
@@nicolebailey4426
Wow. I didn’t know that. LVH only thinks of what she feels is fair to her self.
How is that not the same? It literally is just with the other being more wordy… What you described *was* her part. So good job on your non-point.
She didn't cry over the murders only when asked about loss of her living free.
The trial was a tour de force for prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi. His 1974 book “Helter Scelter” is quite good. Also enjoyed his 2008 book “The Prosecution of George W Bush for Murder”
I recommend 'WIHOUT CONSCIENCE " Manson in his own words..written early 1980s..
My college friend and I were amazed at his bravery, there was a judge who was murdered by the family, or disappeared, bugliosi had balls of steel to go after justice