What Happened To Every Pokemon Villain?

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  • @JPRPokeTrainer98
    @JPRPokeTrainer98  Рік тому +451

    Who is your favorite Pokemon villain??

    • @ultrabros3
      @ultrabros3 Рік тому +60

      Giovanni the og boss

    • @bleebus6817
      @bleebus6817 Рік тому

      Your brother's bollocks

    • @hayleystubbs591
      @hayleystubbs591 Рік тому +29

      For me it's either Lysandre for the nostalgia (with X being my first game) or Getsis because he's the first Pokémon villain to genuinely terrify me

    • @drkpmnair
      @drkpmnair Рік тому +55

      Ghetsis the GOAT. He literally tried to kill you

    • @liannabunny7775
      @liannabunny7775 Рік тому +24

      Ghetsis

  • @RagingBrachy
    @RagingBrachy Рік тому +3028

    I love how Archie and Maxie just become chill after almost dooming the entire world

    • @darianricks2050
      @darianricks2050 Рік тому +208

      Crazy cause they never get arrested

    • @RagingBrachy
      @RagingBrachy Рік тому +283

      ​@@darianricks2050 as long as it was just a prank

    • @fork-man
      @fork-man Рік тому

      ​@@RagingBrachy Maxie and or Archie: look guys I know this is bad we pretty much almost wipe half the world population off the plant but it was for the ecosystem

    • @Alex_Barbosa
      @Alex_Barbosa Рік тому

      Maxie did nothing wrong

    • @BaneRain
      @BaneRain Рік тому

      Maxie did nothing wrong. There is too much water in hoenn.

  • @sagent9984
    @sagent9984 Рік тому +1139

    I really do love how Volo said “it’s just a prank” and got away with trying to dethrone God

    • @abdullahirfan9991
      @abdullahirfan9991 Рік тому +139

      Arecus: kids these days

    • @torazely
      @torazely Рік тому +109

      Maxie, Archie, and Volo after almost dooming the world: it was just a prank 😅

    • @Andrew-ch3xj
      @Andrew-ch3xj Рік тому +1

      No

    • @abdullahirfan9991
      @abdullahirfan9991 Рік тому +11

      @@Andrew-ch3xj chicken sandwich

    • @jacksonvoet8312
      @jacksonvoet8312 15 днів тому

      He gets a fitting punishment. He has to live his allegedly immortal life living in the world he tried to destroy knowing he failed, defeated even with the Serpent of Distortion at its angriest on his side by a child, forced to wander a land that would never bother to remember him in the slightest.

  • @a_cup_of_joe540
    @a_cup_of_joe540 Рік тому +4217

    Cyrus died after 3 weeks in the distortion world due to a lack of food

    • @gustavju4686
      @gustavju4686 Рік тому +502

      He can eat the trees.

    • @ghosthand5552
      @ghosthand5552 Рік тому +496

      I'd say he died after a week. No water to drink

    • @Lightdragon773
      @Lightdragon773 Рік тому +633

      ​@@ghosthand5552 the waterfall

    • @yarc9
      @yarc9 Рік тому +332

      people are saying Pokémon is afraid tackle topics like death they tackle death all the time

    • @Lightdragon773
      @Lightdragon773 Рік тому +199

      @@yarc9 lavender town, about a small chunk of dex entries especially the ghost types and megas in sm/usum, about a 3rd of the episodes in the sun and moon anime, etc,etc

  • @EpicNerdsWithCameras
    @EpicNerdsWithCameras Рік тому +473

    Of the many ways a villain can go out, getting nuked to death at the command of a toddler has got to be one of the most disrespectful.

    • @rainbowangel5264
      @rainbowangel5264 Рік тому +91

      Bonnie in the Anime can't even have pokemon of her own as she's too young, so Clement has to hold onto them for her, mans got destroyed by a child before she was even legally allowed to carry mons 🤣

    • @misslady2639
      @misslady2639 Рік тому

      And then they made a 4 or 5 yo child an Elite Four member in Gen 9 who can't even speak properly @@rainbowangel5264

    • @tsunami729
      @tsunami729 9 місяців тому +19

      Yeah, at least the other villains got beat by legal trainers….and the nightmare known as Cynthia

    • @lacytaylor1501
      @lacytaylor1501 6 місяців тому +17

      ​@@rainbowangel5264Max befriends a mythical pokemon before he's old enough to actually be a trainer, meanwhile Bonnie kills a man. Kalos kids are just built different I guess.

    • @dylan.bissendmylife
      @dylan.bissendmylife 3 місяці тому +5

      @@lacytaylor1501 that's what being french does for ya

  • @kusasithebe4866
    @kusasithebe4866 Рік тому +844

    Imagine getting defeated by a kid who got their starter Pokémon a week ago

    • @Zilear
      @Zilear Рік тому +130

      Or if you’re a speed runner, a kid who got their starter 1 to 3 hours ago

    • @tabbender1232
      @tabbender1232 Рік тому +92

      Or if you're a glitcher, a kid who never got a pokemon and just warped to the hall of fame, you never fought him but in-game flags tell you you lost

    • @MortalSoul13
      @MortalSoul13 Рік тому +11

      Lol Youth is a powerful thing.

    • @EphemeralPseudonym
      @EphemeralPseudonym Рік тому +14

      ​@@tabbender1232 Ah, so arbitrary code execution is King Crimson

    • @tabbender1232
      @tabbender1232 Рік тому +2

      @@EphemeralPseudonym Pretty much lmao

  • @VestedUTuber
    @VestedUTuber Рік тому +1970

    So, just a bit of an interesting thing, Pokemon X and Y actually are the only time a villain actually has a different fate in different versions. In Y, the Ultimate Weapon is powered by the energy of Yveltal, the Legendary Pokemon of Death, which means that when Lysander turns the weapon against himself it kills him. In X, Lysander's fate is actually _worse than death,_ as the weapon was powered by the energy of Xerneas, the Legendary Pokemon of Life - which means that X's Lysander is now immortal and buried alive under tons of rock.

    • @groudonvert7286
      @groudonvert7286 Рік тому +264

      In both version his fate is unknown. We can only speculate about the fact he dies the Hitler way : suicide in his bunker.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber Рік тому +276

      @@groudonvert7286
      I would assume that being buried in rubble while being hit by an ancient energy weapon powered by Pokemon's equivalent of Hades would be enough to kill someone. Lysander's fate in X is a bit less obvious, but we can extrapolate based on how AZ is immortal due to using the weapon.

    • @EphemeralPseudonym
      @EphemeralPseudonym Рік тому +12

      ​@@VestedUTuber I wonder how long it takes to wear off

    • @Kyumifun
      @Kyumifun Рік тому +103

      Acctually that would be weird.
      The Ultimate Weapon uses the legendary's energy as a fuel or battery but not as what determines whether to kill everyone or to turn everyone in the base immortal and that's why the legendaries are interchangable there.
      In Pokémon Evolutions is where this plot is used.
      There, Calem catches Xerneas and fights Lysandre. Xerneas litterally one shot his Mega Gyaradas (what a great idea that was to put your ace in a disadvantage against a powerful angry deer god...), Lysandre freaks out and reveals that the weapon is aiming right back at the base and with Xerneas's power the beam will turn him, his team and the heroes (Calem, Serena and Shauna) immortal sothey can all share AZ's fate and suffer for eternity.
      I heard a version that says Lysandre is still alive buried under the rubble of his base but Xerneas's power keeps him alive. He might've been crushed, his bones may have broke, not even suffocaation can help as he cannot die no matter what, all that's left for this man is to just lie there for eternity.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber Рік тому +16

      @@EphemeralPseudonym
      That's the thing. It doesn't.

  • @anthonysteer4798
    @anthonysteer4798 Рік тому +553

    I'm fairly sure that Ghetsis was also the only villan to actually straight up attack the player with intent to kill in Pokemon B2/B2

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +23

      Red Eyes in Ranger 3 as well

    • @drunkdrag0n
      @drunkdrag0n Рік тому +64

      You're right. He ordered Kyurem to flash-freeze the player, which would've killed them through hypothermia if he or she didn't die instantly.

    • @a.x.x8184
      @a.x.x8184 Рік тому +48

      Why do ppl forget in BW1 he tried to “shut” the player up after revealing his true intentions.

    • @gamerofgamers1417
      @gamerofgamers1417 Рік тому +22

      ​@@a.x.x8184because it didn't have a dramatic spectacle like Kyurem trying to freeze you.

    • @EstebanBrenesV
      @EstebanBrenesV 11 місяців тому +1

      manga giovanni in a battle with red stried to attack him directly and almost caused him to fall on a chasm

  • @badatchoosingnames3556
    @badatchoosingnames3556 Рік тому +281

    If we ignore the part where they wanted to destroy the world's entire biosystem, Archie and Maxie's situationship is lowkey funny. Also, poor Cyrus is so much of an introvert, he actually love the distortion world more than the actual owner of the place does.

    • @dragonwrath582
      @dragonwrath582 Рік тому +26

      Ehh, giratina is shown to care a lot about the distortion world, in the jewel of life, palliative and dialga fight which causes massive destruction. Because the distortion world mirrors the real world, issues happen in there so giratina Leaves to go stop them.

    • @Diabolos1007
      @Diabolos1007 11 місяців тому +14

      ​@@dragonwrath582 from PLA we can learn that Giratina slowly started to change and like the distortion world

    • @neptuneplaneptune3367
      @neptuneplaneptune3367 11 місяців тому +13

      Well....Giratina probably appreciates the company. Then again said Company is Cyrus so...i kinda doubt any engaging conversations came to be. poor Giratina

    • @jacksonvoet8312
      @jacksonvoet8312 15 днів тому +1

      I mean, the Distortion World has plants, water, theoretically infinite areas. A human could survive there. He also has his Pokémon, so he has protection. He’ll be fine, he got his freedom from spirit.

  • @danielmalinen6337
    @danielmalinen6337 Рік тому +1032

    If you played X instead of Y, Lysandre doesn't die but he gets eternal life and has to live as an immortal but crushed and buried under a collapsed cave.

    • @drm726
      @drm726 Рік тому +115

      I’m pretty sure the implication is that he was killed by the explosion of his machine, not by the legendary. And that part is the same in both X and Y.

    • @pokedude720
      @pokedude720 Рік тому

      ​@@drm726 Yes, but before firing the weapon he states that he's going to grant everyone eternal Life in X/Kill everyone in Y

    • @hondaaccord1399
      @hondaaccord1399 Рік тому +51

      ​@bruh moment
      This is a certified Kars...los moment

    • @fork-man
      @fork-man Рік тому +28

      ​@@drm726 the thing is its unknown the ultimate weapon is a big energy gun so it makes sense that what ever hit by it would be destroyed/dead but the power source backing it up was (if it's X) the literal god of life so even if the big gun blew up the energy that hit the impact sight should have effected Lysander giving him immortality

    • @LightStreak567
      @LightStreak567 Рік тому +29

      @Daniel Malinen No matter what version you play, he intended on using Xerneas or Yveltal's life energy to make the superweapon strong enough to obliterate the world. Giving the world eternal life is counter-productive to his goals.

  • @Alec11_43
    @Alec11_43 Рік тому +834

    Yeah, team plasma was disappointingly quite nerfed in the anime. I know a lot of that had to do with factors outside the anime’s control, but still.

    •  Рік тому +120

      I wonder how things would have played out if that earthquake never happened.

    • @MorePower8679
      @MorePower8679 Рік тому +130

      Yeah. An earthquake, Tsunami and the worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl will do that to a show.

    • @yarc9
      @yarc9 Рік тому +9

      @ Japan always gonna have earthquakes I don’t live in Japan so I m not gonna earthquakes or snow I live in the middle east only in the north west we get snow

    •  Рік тому +36

      @@yarc9 What does the second half of your reply mean?

    • @yarc9
      @yarc9 Рік тому +3

      @ I live in the middle east

  • @ParaternalSkies64
    @ParaternalSkies64 Рік тому +219

    11:00 Lillie the Nihelego also got adopted, making Lusamine’s original goal of befriending nihelego completed in a much more non-damaging way.

    • @GamerFromJump
      @GamerFromJump Рік тому +13

      It is officially under the control of Gladion, who uses it in the Battle Royal against Ash, Kiawe, and Kukui, and while it does make a decent showing, it is the first to go down. Gladion should use a Poisonium or Rockium next time.

    • @CaptainvonDore
      @CaptainvonDore Рік тому

      ​@@GamerFromJumpwait a minute! My Pokémon knowledge basically comes from yt videos so I might be wrong but wasn't the battle royale in SM where the Aether family befriended Nihilego in Journeys?

    • @ddlcfan2763
      @ddlcfan2763 10 місяців тому

      ​@@CaptainvonDorethey befriended nihilegho in the crown tundra

  • @kartiksaraf4676
    @kartiksaraf4676 Рік тому +456

    The closest to a villain role in SV is the professors. They mistreat Arven, cause dangerous pokemon to appear in their world through their reckless research.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +120

      Not just "closest thing" either--rhey were full on supervillains. And then there's the entire previous faculty at the school, since they made Star out to be bad guys when Star was just trying to fix the bullying issue that the faculty refused to address

    • @madarablackgetsugarift8633
      @madarablackgetsugarift8633 Рік тому +38

      @@BJGvideos and even now the current league staff (namely Geeta) being sus to the gym leaders, and Clavel being really suspicious as well

    • @pyroflare7774
      @pyroflare7774 Рік тому +11

      ​@@madarablackgetsugarift8633 Clavel impregnated the players mom when the player gets their bag and hat at the beginning of the game 0:01

    • @patrickkh1245
      @patrickkh1245 Рік тому +6

      They were not villains. They risked their life to save Koraidon/miraidon and died because of that. They loved their kid

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +40

      @@patrickkh1245 They still planned to unleash "Paradise" which would have caused undue destruction by introducing so many new species, and they were well aware of this and dismissed it as an acceptable loss.
      They did love Arven and they did die in an act of compassion, but they were still villains.

  • @Moon-Vixen
    @Moon-Vixen Рік тому +198

    I think my fave of the bunch is Colress, but only bc I love the fact that they put so much work into a character like him, a scientist who is indifferent to the suffering of others, caring *only* for his research, there is no need for the ends to "justify" the means bc he feels no need to justify his actions in the first place, only for them to give him a head that looks like the internet explorer icon and rendering me entirely unable to take him even a little bit seriously LMAO

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +3

      I feel like the SV villains were similar in that regard, from what we hear of how they approached their plans.

    • @Moon-Vixen
      @Moon-Vixen Рік тому

      @@BJGvideos who?

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому

      @@Moon-Vixen how far are you in the game?

    • @Moon-Vixen
      @Moon-Vixen Рік тому

      @@BJGvideos fully completed

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +3

      @@Moon-Vixen Yeah, the professors. They had known that "Paradise" would be catastrophic to the Paldean ecosystem and pursued it anyway.

  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher Рік тому +262

    I still find it funny how Giovanni went from mob boss to Kang the Conqueror in the spam of 20 years

    • @Yokai_Yuri
      @Yokai_Yuri Рік тому +41

      Well he is the most intelligent and resourceful villain in the series.

    • @joshuafrizzell7856
      @joshuafrizzell7856 Рік тому +28

      To top it off with Ash's story complete, we'll never get a final showdown between him & Giovanni. Sucks, but I blame the writing.

    • @probablyjinxed
      @probablyjinxed Рік тому +5

      reminds me of rugal’s escalation in KOF lol. mob boss that can throw hands to demigod in a couple games

    • @byronwolf8692
      @byronwolf8692 Рік тому +7

      ​@@joshuafrizzell7856Ash could still return not as the main character. I think it would be cool getting a prime adult Ash vs a prime Giovanni showdown in a future movie or series.

    • @joshuafrizzell7856
      @joshuafrizzell7856 Рік тому +3

      @@byronwolf8692 I hope.

  • @johnax4124
    @johnax4124 Рік тому +515

    I always feel like the entire villain plot of Platinum could be avoided if Mars or someone just got Cyrus a lexapro or something

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +70

      Mars is too blindly devoted to him but maybe Jupiter.

    • @EphemeralPseudonym
      @EphemeralPseudonym Рік тому +49

      bro has severe depression but everyone around him won't let him die... just like me fr

    • @Calerhand
      @Calerhand Рік тому +28

      @@EphemeralPseudonym you won't find help in a comment section but if that is how you really feel try reaching out to people in your RL

    • @Inactivechannel-r6
      @Inactivechannel-r6 Рік тому +22

      @@EphemeralPseudonym people care about you bro

    • @ShadowSkyX
      @ShadowSkyX Рік тому +22

      I feel like Cyrus is so intelligent he would vehemently deny he feels anything of the sort and says he aims for greater things. That feelings are too complex or messy to deal and comprehend, so they never get addressed. Or perhaps he is incapable of doing so. But his actions point to an abused child wanting control over everything in his life and fix it up like he could with the machines he tinkered with growing up. The "incomplete spirit" he goes on about while true might also reference the traumas of his childhood he still feels to this day. The hole they left behind never healed. He could not fix himself like the rest of his machines so he seeks control, perhaps thinking he could undo the empty feeling he can't seem to escape.

  • @alphaareus
    @alphaareus Рік тому +187

    Gotta love how *Bonnie* technically killed Lysandre. Truly amazing.

    • @sentientmustache8360
      @sentientmustache8360 9 місяців тому +21

      Yet another instance of literally everyone in the XYZ anime having that dawg in them

  • @poppythedogofwonders
    @poppythedogofwonders Рік тому +131

    Honestly, when you lay it out, I'm more concerned for Cyrus than anything, like, the guy likes the distortion world and intentionally traps himself in Darkrai's nightmare, that's...
    I'm very concerned for his mental and will to live is all I'm saying.

    • @Flizz0
      @Flizz0 Рік тому +21

      I could change him

    • @lunerblade13
      @lunerblade13 Рік тому +13

      His manga self is much different. Cyrus wasn’t exactly mega introverted but logical finding fascination in things like history and the intricacies of machines. If he didn’t become a supervillain he likely could have been a great historian or archaeologist.
      It was actually his fascination for the sinnoh origin story specific of the three concepts of willpower emotion and wisdom that lead to his ambition wanting to reshape the world because he believed the world lacked true completion even acknowledge his own lack of emotional expression.
      However his plan was from the start sabotaged by chiron his scientist who was never on Cyrus’s side and worked with him only to get in opening into the distortion world to get his hands on giratina.
      It was also due to his loss to Dia Pearl and Platina did Cyrus realized that unite between others helps people towards completion and after encountering Dia in the distortion world did Cyrus agree to help Dia stop Chiron. And after they saved the day Cyrus and his admins who loyally looked up to him leave as “changed” people Cyrus even getting acknowledged by shaymen.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +2

      @@lunerblade13 In DPA he has a similar change of heart, fueled by Hareta and Mitsumi's determination. He realizes that a flawed world is better than no world at all.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +16

      Cyrus's entire motivation is because he's afraid of his own emotions and assumes everyone else is as desperately unhappy as he is so yeah

    • @Flizz0
      @Flizz0 Рік тому +6

      @@BJGvideos no wonder I like him so much

  • @sylviojacyrparolinmelzerpa7059
    @sylviojacyrparolinmelzerpa7059 Рік тому +246

    The truth is that Cyrus needed an anti-depressant. A strong one. I don't know how the health system works in sinnoh, but i guess nurse joy needs to try something to help this guy

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +65

      He also needed early life intervention and child protective services

    • @sylviojacyrparolinmelzerpa7059
      @sylviojacyrparolinmelzerpa7059 Рік тому +8

      @@BJGvideos oh yes please

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +34

      @@sylviojacyrparolinmelzerpa7059 I wonder what his relationship with his grandfather is like. Grandpa seems to love him dearly, but at the same time he didn't intervene when he knew Cyrus needed it

    • @EphemeralPseudonym
      @EphemeralPseudonym Рік тому +36

      ​​@@BJGvideos that's probably what drove him over the edge. Normally that kind of villain would become some sort of megalomaniac but the fact that even the one who loved him most didn't bother saving him made him believe he and his feelings were worthless

    • @aaronhoerig5582
      @aaronhoerig5582 Рік тому +25

      Pokémon centers are just veterinary offices. Human hospitals are still a thing in Pokémon and they’re separate. Nurse Joy is just a veterinarian.

  • @13CrystalHeart
    @13CrystalHeart Рік тому +263

    While Masters' canonicity can be debated, I like Masters bringing back the original Lysandre after he was presumed dead for about seven years, and developing on his friendship with Sycamore. I feel that was something interesting about both of them in XY was them being friends, but they never developed on it any.
    Also, you didn't mention this, but the total unhingedness of him getting to boil two people alive with Volcanion, like I'm still in awe that was greenlit. And then it's heavily implied he was going to do the same to a third. I always made serial killer jokes about him, but it seems they made it official.

    • @Phoenix_Blader_93
      @Phoenix_Blader_93 Рік тому +1

      the games arent canon since charaters are the same age as their original counterpart

    • @13CrystalHeart
      @13CrystalHeart Рік тому +36

      ​​@@Phoenix_Blader_93 In some cases, when there's added development and story lore, I often feel Masters is the writers getting their second chance to fix things or even tell the story they wanted to in their original games, but just _couldn't_ for time constraints or whatever other reason.
      Things like how they elaborated on Sycamore and Lysandre's friendship, having Cyrus start to change his ways due to his admins not wanting him to erase their loyalty to him and actually showing he does have things he cares about (I always felt they might have been teasing a potential redemption arc in Ultra going by his final interaction with the player, but then came the faithful remakes), them showing Lusamine having learned from her mistakes and trying to make amends with her family, etc., are canon to me.

    • @Kyumifun
      @Kyumifun Рік тому +4

      This! I liked that too. I didn't liked how cheesy it was that he just appeared there out of the blue.
      I really do like Masters but it's definictly a separate timeline where things are weird.
      People pretty much don't age there except Red and his friends.
      Isn't it weird how for example Hilbert and Hilda or other protags who aren't separate characters unlike May and Brendan or Dawn and Lucas, are both in Pasio at the same time?

    • @13CrystalHeart
      @13CrystalHeart Рік тому +4

      @@Kyumifun Ya know what they say, if ya don't see a body, you better watch your back.
      It's definitely in a weird timeline and there's definitely stuff that clashes. But I still stick to my guns that it's the writer's second chance, given the development we receive. Also, Hilda and Hilbert are in the games as non-playable too, you can team up with the one you didn't choose on the Subway. (I think you can't say the same for Gen7-Gen8 protags, but it seems like they chose Gloria as the canon protagonist for that game, since she partnered with Zacian.)

    • @joshuakim5240
      @joshuakim5240 Рік тому +5

      Lysandre returning would unironically be super dope (whether it's in another game or even the anime) since he actually does have grounds to return either way (given immortality in X via Xerneas' power or weird mega rock magic shenanigans preserving him against Zygarde). It would be interesting to see him pose as if he's reformed only to later reveal that he became even more unhinged as he unleashes a new plan that makes his old plan of worldwide selective genocide look like a joke in comparison.

  • @Vlazeca
    @Vlazeca Рік тому +127

    Volo has to be the one I'm most curious about what happened to. He said he was going to conquer Arceus "No matter how many centuries it takes" him. To me that implies he had at least something in mind for prolonging his life, potentially to an immortal scale. I'd love to see him cameo in a newer game where he's lived all the way to the present.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +17

      Well, his mentor Cogita seems to be immortal. Maybe he knows how she did it.

    • @A-whoopsie-daisy
      @A-whoopsie-daisy Рік тому +19

      Plot twist: Cynthia isn't is descendant. He is her, playing the role of a champion to get Arceus

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +3

      @@A-whoopsie-daisy So he just...became champion as part of a wide net?

    • @reyj2532
      @reyj2532 9 місяців тому +3

      Well now that Legends Z-A is on the way maybe Volo makes an appearance in Kalos, probably not as big as in Legends Arceus but still an appearance none the less

    • @kosokumushi
      @kosokumushi 9 місяців тому +2

      @@A-whoopsie-daisy that would be him trans, but GOOD JOB IG

  • @dekumidoriya2928
    @dekumidoriya2928 Рік тому +89

    In Paldea, the main villain was already gone, and you're fighting what remains of their will, kinda makes me think of who will be the antagonist of the DLC since as of now there are no clear bad guy in Paldea

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +11

      Nah those two were pretty clearly the villains.

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 Рік тому

      ​@@BJGvideos Not necessarily.

    • @olivernguyen50
      @olivernguyen50 Рік тому +4

      My money is on geeta and/or raifort being the true antagonist in the dlc

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 Рік тому +3

      @@olivernguyen50 Why are people insisting on Geeta being evil? She's not.

    • @mrepicdood9953
      @mrepicdood9953 Рік тому +2

      @@BJGvideos Both of them don’t want to fight you, and help you remove the time machine, they only fight you because of their programming. They aren’t villains.

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 Рік тому +160

    Volo leaves declaring that he will achieve his goals, no matter how many centuries it takes him.
    There's already implications that Volo is of a previous time, so it's entirely possible that Volo has been quietly manipulating things.

    • @GrimR3xx
      @GrimR3xx Рік тому

      groomer

    • @creature6715
      @creature6715 Рік тому +12

      That just sounds like saying you'll follow someone to hell and back, i don't assume giovanni has an entire world of pain for example just because he says "I'll introduce you to a world of pain"

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +36

      Nah there's no way he's older than he appears. He could achieve immortality later on, given that he knows Cogita who's implied to be immortal herself. Or alternately he could just hide out in the Distortion World for a while

    • @xryeau_1760
      @xryeau_1760 Рік тому +1

      ​@@creature6715That sounds like something Rainbow Giovanni would do tbh

    • @yourlocalvaltordefender
      @yourlocalvaltordefender Місяць тому

      ​@@BJGvideos this is now canon in my eyes

  • @c-handle2676
    @c-handle2676 Рік тому +126

    I feel like there's not enough talk about how a version of Colress got into the RR headquarters, likely from the same universe that Ghetsis came from, and just punked the Plasma Big Bad. He really was USING Plasma all the way through.

    • @Yokai_Yuri
      @Yokai_Yuri Рік тому +17

      Yep, Ghetsis wasn't a brilliant villain. He just had resources at his disposal to do whatever operstion he wanted to( he was rich basically) an easy target to manipulate for someone as smart as Colress

    • @jacksonvoet8312
      @jacksonvoet8312 14 днів тому +2

      @@Yokai_Yuri Ghetsis wasn’t the smartest, but his utter lack of morals and extreme ambition is something to be very feared.

  • @Alec11_43
    @Alec11_43 Рік тому +265

    I hope they someday conclude the story of Giovanni and Team Rocket in the anime. They’re(so far) no longer the longtime marketable villains, so it’s possible.

    • @jbcatz5
      @jbcatz5 Рік тому +19

      A Team Rocket civil war would be perfect for giving the group the spotlight. The TRio as well as Cassidy and Boff representing the old guard who have been around since the beginning and Matori being the relatively new blood, a more ambitious faction which comes into conflict with with old guard. The Journeys anime did an episode where the TRio, while on holiday, helped while staying incognito to thwart Matori kidnapping Pokémon.

    • @wanderlustwarrior
      @wanderlustwarrior Рік тому +12

      Team Rocket will probably still be a thing as long as they keep going back to the Kanto well.

    • @tapgames3465
      @tapgames3465 Рік тому +5

      ​@@jbcatz5it would be nice to introduce the rocket admins from gen 2

    • @BakaTaco
      @BakaTaco Рік тому +16

      @@jbcatz5 "Boff..."
      "You're calling me BOFF?! It's Butch! It's not Biff, it's not Bob, it's DEFINITELY not Butch! GAH, now you're getting me confused! That does it, I am changing my name."

    • @Flizz0
      @Flizz0 Рік тому

      @@tapgames3465 YESSS I love them so much I’d love to see that

  • @lmg-desi-yt
    @lmg-desi-yt Рік тому +56

    Ok but the scene were Guzma is trying to keep the grunts seperated is hilarious

  • @Gebirges
    @Gebirges Рік тому +45

    In Masters we found out that ORAS Archie and Maxie were friends in the past, even being part of the same green piece like organisation before splitting up and creating Team Aqua and Magma.
    At the end of their Masters Story they then want to work together again to preserve the beauty of nature.
    They could ally with Lysandre who has an equal goal. But that's just my wishful thinking as he has the Water/Fire type at his side.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +1

      ... Lysandre's goal has nothing to do with what they want. If anything they should team up with Rose.
      ...once Masters bothers to add him they confirmed he was coming in September of 2021 what the heck why are they dragging their feet with him...

    • @zizochemlali4639
      @zizochemlali4639 Рік тому +4

      Thing is Lysandre is either paralyzed stuck inside a dark cave to rot away and die or Dead (Y) or Immortal but stuck crushed under rock (X)

    • @Gebirges
      @Gebirges Рік тому +2

      @@zizochemlali4639 No, he's up and kicking ass. Going the Anti-Hero route.

  • @zigazav1
    @zigazav1 Рік тому +70

    N arguably isn't a villain, so you made the right choice to axe him from this list. He was just a pure-hearted man who was manipulated into doing evil acts. Easily manipulated due to how much kindness in his heart he has for Pokemon. If someone wants to argue that N is a villain, they might as well call the protagonist, Lan Hikari, from the Megaman Battle Network series one too, with how many times he's fooled in the series, sometimes into doing an evil act he doesn't intend to do.

    • @gamerofgamers1417
      @gamerofgamers1417 Рік тому +5

      Agreed. I consider N to be your main rival rather than a villain.

  • @citrusnx8283
    @citrusnx8283 Рік тому +32

    To summerize:
    Giovanni: Lives as a free man and wants to have revenge someday, maybe.
    Maxie and Archie: Gives up on being villains and become friends while in the manga they, uh, idk...
    Cyrus: In the games (DP/BDSP), he goes to Battle Tower. In Platinum, he gets stuck in Distorsion World. And in the anime, he creates a new world but gets stuck there forever. In Masters (which might not be canon), he tries to make a never-ending nightmare in the world but gives up on that idea and leaves.
    N: Goes on a journey to find his meaning in life.
    Colress: Goes around the world and innovate things while in the Anime he gets in prison.
    Ghetsis: The BW/B2W2, he becomes crazy and gives up on taking over the world, while other versions of him still tries to do it. In the anime, he gets in prison.
    Lysander: Probably died.
    Guzma: Becomes a student while in the Anime he disbands Team Skull after losing the Leauge.
    Lusamine: In SM, she gets transported to Kanto to Bill to save her life. In USUM, she stay as the president of Aether Paradise and in the Anime she gets her family united again.
    Rose: Goes to prison but in the Anime, he lives hidden as a free man.
    Volo: Disappears. Due to strong theories of him being a time traveller, he might have found a way to get to another era and found a way to meet Arceus there.
    Penny: Disband Team Star and becomes friends with the player.
    Professor Sada & Turo: Died a long time ago and their dream project got shut down.

    • @ghostofyou9721
      @ghostofyou9721 Рік тому +2

      We need a fully flushed out version of Sada and Turo because their story feels rushed and it makes me sad because as professors they seem really cool. Not to mention the tiny crush I have on Turo

  • @SakhotGamer
    @SakhotGamer Рік тому +24

    Lysandre really met his end to an 8 year old commanding one of the most canonically powerful legendary pokemon huh... That's somehow even more disrespectful than you in the games catching the legendary the evil guy wanted and using it against them.

  • @lordtrinen2249
    @lordtrinen2249 Рік тому +46

    I'd argue that the Pokemon Professor is the main villain of the Scarlet/Violet games since it's their experiments that caused all the problems in Area Zero, problems that could spill out into the rest of Paldea at any time. They're not as outright malicious as the other villains but still as close as you can get.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +13

      They were perfectly ok with wide-scale destruction as well, dismissing it as a part of life.

  • @Averrrrrnuee
    @Averrrrrnuee 10 місяців тому +9

    Volo: *Gains you trust, betrays you, works with the devil, leaves.*

  • @tanjirosgoat6291
    @tanjirosgoat6291 Рік тому +59

    also, in the Emerald arc of the manga it’s flat out stated, not implied, that Maxie killed Archie so he could use the Guile Hideout armor

    • @sCooper97
      @sCooper97 Рік тому +4

      Isn't that the other way around?

    • @kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214
      @kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 Рік тому +15

      Technically not directly as all he did was win the battle, the loser wouldnt get the armor and therefore die

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 Рік тому

      The armor was used to slow the time experienced by the wearer, allowing Archie to stop his body from decaying.
      And the person who gave him the armor... That b*tch of a woman never got the comeuppance she deserved.

    • @carrotkid1
      @carrotkid1 Рік тому +5

      @@sCooper97 I’m pretty sure Archie killed Maxie cause of the giant Kyogre they summon afterwards

    • @sCooper97
      @sCooper97 Рік тому +3

      @@carrotkid1 that's exactly what i meant

  • @pathos7527
    @pathos7527 Рік тому +195

    I don’t consider Ghetsis gone as a threat in the games’ universe. Our word that he isn’t scheming comes from…the group whose sole purpose was to help him achieve his schemes. Yeah, NOT the most trustworthy source on his motives being neutral now. 😂

    • @johnlynch1353
      @johnlynch1353 Рік тому +9

      I mean who could tell you that and have you believe them. There is no easy way for them to show Ghetsis having lost his scheming characteristic.

    • @pathos7527
      @pathos7527 Рік тому +14

      @@johnlynch1353 Ha ha, fair. Tbh if we were only talking the Shadow Triad in a vacuum I would be liable to believe it, but as evil as Ghetsis is…maybe they are actually being honest, but mannn there’s some breathing room for doubt there. 😆

    • @MortalSoul13
      @MortalSoul13 Рік тому +15

      Ghetsis is out of options. No Reshiram , Zekrom , or no Kyurem. No N to manipulate. No team plasma either. Black 2 and White 2 was the hit to the nail for Ghetsis.

    • @kwayneboy1524
      @kwayneboy1524 Рік тому +4

      ​@@MortalSoul13plus he waa already slipping mentally so this was the final straw

    • @MortalSoul13
      @MortalSoul13 Рік тому +2

      @@kwayneboy1524 Exactly Gamefreak screwed over Ghetsis

  • @arcticdino1650
    @arcticdino1650 Рік тому +44

    Fun bonus: The lead scientist of team Flare (don't remember his name) continued doing shady things until being arrested by Looker in the post game of x and y

  • @apollyon2018
    @apollyon2018 Рік тому +12

    Tbf with Giovanni, I would have self-confidence issues if a bunch of 11yo lab monsters were running around the whole world casually fighting entire organizations and pokegods

  • @danielbaldwin5756
    @danielbaldwin5756 Рік тому +78

    As someone who has made it far enough in the manga I can safely say I still don't know what happened to Archie and Maxie. In ORAS they're kind of like evil ghosts who can possess people but if I remember correctly they just kind of disappear at the end.

    • @The_original_one
      @The_original_one Рік тому +9

      Thay are just souls yet somehow managed to get out of the distortion world to save the earth from the meteor after their work was done thay are called back to the distortion world.

    • @kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214
      @kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 Рік тому +1

      @@The_original_one Yeah Kyogre and Groudon somehow brought them back

    • @carrotkid1
      @carrotkid1 Рік тому

      @@The_original_one I think hoppa had something to do with it too

    • @EphemeralPseudonym
      @EphemeralPseudonym Рік тому +1

      Was this when everyone turned into rocks? I think they were energy beings and ran out of energy and now they're gone, removed from the cycle of reincarnation, even

    • @carrotkid1
      @carrotkid1 Рік тому +2

      @@EphemeralPseudonym Red and everyone was turned to rocks by that one admins Darkrai(I think) during the Emerald chapter

  • @AlanNri20
    @AlanNri20 Рік тому +34

    9:46 And in the same event, he and Malva obliterated two TR recruits who were infiltrators trying to cause internal troubles and feud within the ranks of Team Flare, so... Yeah, dont mess with Lysson in Masters' canon XD

  • @mazharsiddiqi7288
    @mazharsiddiqi7288 Рік тому +23

    5:05 Cyrus chose Infinite Tsukuyomi it seems

  • @astrooooo
    @astrooooo Рік тому +36

    Volo actually shows up for one second in one of the mini series on the Pokémon UA-cam channel. I need more Volo content 🥲🥲

  • @benpiano800
    @benpiano800 8 місяців тому +13

    I find it hilarious that Bonnie of all characters canonically has a kill count

  • @michaelcarlton1484
    @michaelcarlton1484 Рік тому +29

    Archie and Maxie are so strange in the manga sometimes. Like it was heavily implied that one murdered the other in order to survive the whole 'controlling a legendary against its will kills the trainer' thing.

  • @Alec11_43
    @Alec11_43 Рік тому +144

    It’s weird that both the anime and manga almost completely removed Colress’s complexities and potential for good.

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 Рік тому +48

      Yeah. The manga especially butchered him, even reducing his cameo in Alola to another character dressing up as him.

    • @ceecee6521
      @ceecee6521 Рік тому +4

      ​@@wikiuser92 Man, that's brutal.
      .....Can Ghetsis be next?

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 Рік тому +61

      @@ceecee6521 By "butchered", I meant they butchered his character. He's fully evil without a single redeeming factor (for example, he casually tells Grunts to throw frozen children into the sea) and throws childish tantrums when things don't go his way.
      Ghetsis, meanwhile, suffers a mental breakdown when all the Pokémon he abused glare at him with silent rage.

    • @kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214
      @kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 Рік тому +1

      Fr they always fix the Games Worst characters or remain consistent what happened

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 Рік тому +11

      @@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 They also ruin characters sometimes. Like Colress and Lillie, for example. Lillie is supposed to be the main character of the story, but as soon as Nebby evolves at the altar, it ditches her in favor of a character who hadn't interacted with it *once.* Not to mention that the manga only features *one* interaction between Lillie and Lusamine. *One.*

  • @xaviergonzalez44
    @xaviergonzalez44 Рік тому +10

    I would like to point out a mistake in the video regarding Guzma’s anime fate.
    He was about to disband Team Skull after Ash beat him but they wanted to stick with him to learn to battle as awesome as he did. You can even see them in Pokémon Journeys, with all the Team Skull apparel still present. I guess they’re a lot nicer now

  • @PonyJammin
    @PonyJammin Рік тому +36

    Just gonna say, I love Lysandre a whole lot. I like the idea that he is killed in the collapse of the weapon in Y, but in X, he would theoretically become immortal from the effect of Xerneas' power. He's just stuck under the rubble in my mind, immortal but not bothering anyone. Until TPCi sees fit to release him from his self-made prison in revisiting Kalos.

  • @melskunk
    @melskunk Рік тому +21

    What happened to Volo?
    Gamefreak : 🤷‍♂️

  • @HoopsandHipHop
    @HoopsandHipHop Рік тому +6

    Bonnie murdering Lysandre is not the plot twist I was expecting to see today

  • @WERTYUIO821
    @WERTYUIO821 Рік тому +19

    Where is the worse villain of pokemon? The most evil of them all. The one that has gave million of kids trust issues. The one that has a subreddit dedicated to people posting about how much they hate her?
    Where is Mindy?

    • @azuhoyhoy
      @azuhoyhoy 3 місяці тому +1

      And that's probably why we have a counterpart of her giving us a Haunter *without anything equipped* in SV. lol

  • @NatetheGreat2015
    @NatetheGreat2015 Рік тому +23

    Bonnie being the one to take down Lysandre in the anime, is both hilarious and kind of iconic. 😂😂😂 All Hail Queen Bonnie and her Knight, 100% Zygarde! 😂

  • @oake5869
    @oake5869 Рік тому +55

    Cyrus isn't evil, really. He's just the most apathetic person to ever exist.
    I also believe he doesn't die in the Distortion world because I don't think anything really exists in there. From the Manga with Maxie and Archie they go there after they die, and with Giratina being the god of Anti-matter (the thing that is everything that isn't a thing) I just think he's just in this limbo place where he gets to know peace.

    • @nakedmolerat8356
      @nakedmolerat8356 Рік тому +4

      He is definitely evil

    • @a.x.x8184
      @a.x.x8184 Рік тому +3

      @@nakedmolerat8356No he’s not you Sinnoh fans wish He just sucks & by far the worst “boss” ever.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 14 днів тому

      @@oake5869 ah nah he doesn't die, but he's very much a villain. If he was apathetic he wouldn't be doing any of this

  • @wikiuser92
    @wikiuser92 Рік тому +39

    You should make videos dedicated to the Adventures manga at some point.
    Also, I think it's heavily implied that Lysandre murders two Team Rocket Grunts with Volcanion in Masters EX.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому

      I'd like to see one on some other mangas as well

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 Рік тому +1

      @@BJGvideos Adventures is by far the best known and most easily accessible one.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +1

      @@wikiuser92 Still. Also I'd wager DPA is as accessible since it's still in bookstores.

  • @XekutoZoren
    @XekutoZoren 8 місяців тому +3

    Lysandre's demise in the game always baffled me when I played it. Mainly because of the reactions of the characters. I think I distinctly remember someone going. "Well that was intense. Welp, I'm gonna go fill up my Pokedex now. What are you gonna do, MC?"

  • @tktyga77
    @tktyga77 Рік тому +14

    Gotta love how the manga brings out another side of Pokémon, especially for tie in material

  • @cuyospartan02
    @cuyospartan02 Рік тому +5

    Ghetsis ordering kyurem to impale the player with multiple sharp icicles at the end of bw2 is the most metal thing a villain has done, apart from lysandre activating a miniature version of a halo ring

  • @raynmanshorts9275
    @raynmanshorts9275 Рік тому +10

    JPR's reaction to Archie and Maxie's fate in the manga is pretty accurate.

  • @Ja-EdenCheese
    @Ja-EdenCheese Рік тому +8

    Kinda relate to colress, like just join an evil grouo and use their resources to your own experiments.

  • @azanmuhammad2980
    @azanmuhammad2980 Рік тому +9

    Lol Archie and Maxie also find love in each other, literally

  • @UltimatePhantasm
    @UltimatePhantasm Рік тому +12

    I dunno, I think Origins Giovanni legit goes through a heel-face turn
    iirc his dialogue after fighting Red is based on the gen 1 incarnation, and not the revised, more ambiguous response from after he's defeated in FRLG, where he DOES show up in later games with an overall just as antagonistic goal of starting up team rocket again (though it might be just him changing his mind when he hears Team Rocket calling for him during the radio tower takeover)
    I could be wrong though

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 14 днів тому

      @@UltimatePhantasm Yeah but that was retconned later

  • @aaronlefebre5060
    @aaronlefebre5060 Рік тому +11

    The villains of Paldea are all already long gone by the time to story actually begins. One set got fired/resigned after they failed to do what they were supposed to do, and the other set are posthumous. The story of ScVi is more about recognizing and dealing with the aftermath of everything that happened long before you got there.

    • @EphemeralPseudonym
      @EphemeralPseudonym Рік тому +3

      ScVi technically being a postgame is so wild

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +1

      We don't know why the other professor left. All we get is one line in the journals saying that they left soon after Arven was born.

  • @idreadFell365
    @idreadFell365 Рік тому +8

    I remember when in the anime, they killed Lysandre like it wasn’t a kids show 💀

  • @FTChomp9980
    @FTChomp9980 Рік тому +19

    We didn't see Giovanni after US/UM! He said he would return where is he then!
    As for Cyrus dude is probably having a Apocalypse Look with clothes tear downed basically living in the Distortion World preparing to go into war with Sinnoh.

  • @sl3kii875
    @sl3kii875 Рік тому +3

    Guzma actually never disbanded team skull in the anime. He considered it, but Plumeria and the rest of the gang were all inspired by his last efforts in the tournament so they continue to exist afterwards. If I remember correctly, they even make an appearance in the audience when Ash returns to Alola and fights Gladian, Kiawe and Kukui

  • @theduchyofmilanball3157
    @theduchyofmilanball3157 9 місяців тому +4

    My head canon was always that, after his psychological breakdown in B2W2, and subsequent defeat, Ghetis Suffered a stroke and would presumably remain bedridden for the rest of his life. Hense the Shadow Triad's lines regarding his fate.

    • @jacksonvoet8312
      @jacksonvoet8312 14 днів тому

      He did already seemingly have severe frostbite or some kind of mauling wounds.

  • @kannan07
    @kannan07 Рік тому +86

    Good to know that others realised that lysander's murder was on bonnie☠️
    Although I didn't actually realise that zygarde didn't actually kill Lysander in adventures XY

    • @ImyIsStillHere
      @ImyIsStillHere Рік тому +19

      Bonnie killed Lysander, I always loved the fact that Those two siblings resulted in the end of team flare with bonnie ordering Zyeguarde to execute Lysander and Clemont getting Xerosic arrested.

    • @sombramemer1230
      @sombramemer1230 Рік тому +2

      Why wasn't Alain the dude who Lysandre manipulated the one to kill Lysandre? It makes more sense than a toddler. Honestly the XY writers are the most stupid people who worked on pokemon.

    • @ImyIsStillHere
      @ImyIsStillHere Рік тому

      @@sombramemer1230 Bonnie is six. The writers completely gave up Kalos league onwards on the series

    • @kannan07
      @kannan07 Рік тому +5

      @@sombramemer1230 they aren't stupid,you just don't understand what's actually going on in the series☠️
      Alain's arc was to save chespy,the final blow was always supposed to be zygarde's

    • @sombramemer1230
      @sombramemer1230 Рік тому +1

      @@ImyIsStillHere They gave up a lot sooner than that.

  • @kevinmo1
    @kevinmo1 Рік тому +6

    I think the reason for the discrepancy in Giovanni’s reformation and then sudden relapse to evil is that pokemon origins followed the plot of the original pokemon red and blu where Giovanni has a change of heart while the current mainline continuity uses fire red and leaf green’s where Giovanni declares that team rocket will make a comeback

    • @ElisatheNerd
      @ElisatheNerd Рік тому +3

      When will fans realize that games and the spin off series, manga, generations, anime etc are completely independent productions. Sure they ran by pokemon company but they're made by different people who had their own interpretation of the characters and stories and not game freak, who are actually only responsible for the games

  • @DarkRed
    @DarkRed Рік тому +4

    Still can’t believe so many people believed the giovanni suicide theory thinking the radio static was actually him jumping down to the water

  • @Boredom-ds5yg
    @Boredom-ds5yg Рік тому +11

    Volo is hinted at being either a time traveler or immortal, though I think it’s the latter of the two. He and Cogita are both descendants of the ancient Sinnoh people. The poems you find around the region are actually written by Cogita a LONG time ago. So I think Volo and Cogita are older than we think.

    • @kraio-sfu
      @kraio-sfu Рік тому +6

      Some people also think cogita is just straight up Cynthia, which would be cool I think

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +2

      Cogita is implied to be immortal but not Volo

    • @Boredom-ds5yg
      @Boredom-ds5yg Рік тому +3

      @@BJGvideos Volo did say he would conquer Arceus “No matter how many years, how many decades, how many centuries it takes me!” So he might be immortal, or maybe he won’t live as long as Cogita. 🤔 Regardless, I think it’s safe to say the dude ain’t normal. 😅

    • @Boredom-ds5yg
      @Boredom-ds5yg Рік тому +2

      @@kraio-sfu That would be cool! It’s not out of the question, and it adds even more to the mystery!

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +3

      @@Boredom-ds5yg Yeah but maybe he knows how to achieve that, or maybe he figures he can hang out in the Distortion World for a while to study while time doesn't pass, or maybe he's continuing to be delusional.

  • @kingvideogames
    @kingvideogames Рік тому +6

    Fun fact, in the Pokemon Diamond and Pearl Adventure manga, after getting beaten by Hareta, Cyrus ends up finding his way to Giratina's Dimension, and after seeing Charon use Team Galactic just to get money and riches and after the battle with Giratina, decides to give up Team Galactic and disband it. So in the manga, he not only turns over a new leaf but officially ends Team Galactic.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +2

      Cyrus never goes to the Distortion World in DPA. They fight Giratina together but it's in an open field in Sinnoh. Charon is the one who goes to the Distortion World because he's trying to capture Giratina, but gets his ass kicked. Then he gets drawn back out to Sinnoh, tries to go back to Stark Mountain for Heatan, and gets arrested, with the revelation that Cyrus has disbanded TG in the meantime (likely as a plea bargain to avoid punishment, or it seemed that way).

  • @abdullahirfan9991
    @abdullahirfan9991 Рік тому +6

    Archie and maxie legit pulled a *just a prank, bro*

  • @cactusalucano4013
    @cactusalucano4013 Рік тому +10

    Archie and Maxie if they had just gotten a normal divorce instead of whatever they did in the manga.

  • @ThCrmsnFx
    @ThCrmsnFx Рік тому +4

    In the games a Team Flayer Grunt mentions a fire in the bunker and that people died, many people I’ve talked to assumed Lycanser burned to death in the room with the weapon

  • @pokestyn
    @pokestyn Рік тому +9

    You missed the part in masters where it can be implied Lysandre killed two team rocket grunts

  • @the_aberration7398
    @the_aberration7398 Рік тому +4

    Just because Giovanni had a change of heart in Pokémon Origins doesn’t mean he did in the games. They are separate universes (or maybe even entirely separate canons), to my knowledge.

  • @dismasyves
    @dismasyves Рік тому +4

    Nothing like "becoming one" with your archnemesis to make you rethink your ways

  • @solgaleo3533
    @solgaleo3533 Рік тому +5

    I’m planning on working on what happened to the different villains and teams in my fangame. The regional evil team is led by a former Team Flare admin from Johto who sought revenge against Team Rocket, Colress became the Professor in the region that the Nature Preserve is part of, Ghetsis shows up again to unseal the dark force that drives the madness of Team Plasma, Gladion has taken over as Vice President of the Aether Foundation, aiming to stop Pokemon from facing what he faced (USUM is the canon game in mine), Saturn is the leader of Team Galactic, which is now an actual energy company, and Team Aqua’s Matt is now a gym leader alongside his sister (an original character of mine) and uses a Crawdaunt as his ace

  • @slyfox7452
    @slyfox7452 Рік тому +5

    I like how in Y Lysander is just dead but in X Lysander is immortal and trapped under the canon

  • @myStitch11
    @myStitch11 Рік тому +10

    A small thing I want to add for Lusamine. In the Masters game, that seem to follow Ultra Moon, Lusamine is shown to actively trying to rebuild her relationship as a mother to Lillie and Gladion though both an event when they were all first added, and a few others where Lusamine is show being protective of them. Even Guzma acknowledged she is actively trying to be a mother now.
    ((I have a whole thing of personally trying to piece together which game version is “canon” to Masters. Like Masters implies that it’s timeline is Platinum with Cynthia mentioning that last she saw Cyrus he was in the distortion world, but then Cyrus himself is actively plucked from Pearl right before his victory/defeat due to Hoopa (hence him having Palkia). Or Lysandre talking about having tried to use Yveltal for the weapon, implying the timeline used Y))

  • @LabMatt
    @LabMatt Рік тому +6

    Here's hoping Volo shows up in Masters now that Adaman and Irida made their debut

  • @parkwoojin1875
    @parkwoojin1875 Рік тому +5

    Evice was arrested. Greevil and his son Eldes fled and promised to change their ways. Ardos left to probably commit more war crimes

    • @F1areon
      @F1areon Рік тому +2

      Ardos even vows to rebuild Cipher after all that. There's a perfectly good sequel hook there and they just never used it. aaaaauuuuugh

  • @double_illusions2121
    @double_illusions2121 Рік тому +23

    isn’t maxie also an alcoholic in the manga?

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 Рік тому +10

      Yup. He is. He's seen being drunk at several points. And Team Magma doesn't even have a set base in the manga, so they just gather to talk wherever and whenever Maxie feels like it.

    • @UltimatePhantasm
      @UltimatePhantasm Рік тому +2

      yes

    • @ImyIsStillHere
      @ImyIsStillHere Рік тому +4

      The manga is FULL of wierd stuff eg the TRADEDY of Clemont vrs tree + esspurs

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +5

      The first time we see him he's drinking from a sake bottle that's half his height

  • @kalosianporygon
    @kalosianporygon Рік тому +8

    Fun Fact: Lysandre possibly dies in not just Pokémon Y and the anime, but in Pokémon Adventures as well.
    In comparison, I don't think any other major villain died in the manga. For all the talk about Adventures being dark and edgy, it is light in important deaths.

    • @kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214
      @kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 Рік тому +7

      He was actualy stated to have survived the whole thing but he got on a Wheelchair
      Yeah the amount of Characters that die and stay dead in the Manga is actualy lower than the Anime

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +3

      @@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 Yeah even that beheaded Arbok people like to bang on about survived. It's a plot point that it can regenerate from just its head.
      And the Psyduck that got melted earlier in that same scene was already dead since they were in a graveyard, so it doesn't count.
      Giovanni still totally murdered those two Magmar for no reason though

    • @aglassofcyanide8266
      @aglassofcyanide8266 Рік тому +1

      For real?? I always thought he died from his injuries. But hey, he's my favorite Pokemon character, so i'll gladly take crippled over dead 🤣

  • @Robin280497
    @Robin280497 Рік тому +6

    Imagine if Volo appears in Masters with his Sync Pair being Arceus. Would be wild af.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +2

      I would say "the entire point of his story is that he's not worthy of Arceus" but well...Zinnia with Rayquaza and Eusine with Suicune apparently don't care

    • @zizochemlali4639
      @zizochemlali4639 Рік тому +1

      @@BJGvideosYeah it’d make more sense for him to use his togekiss

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +2

      @@zizochemlali4639 I feel like merchant Volo would get Togekiss and acolyte Volo would get Giratina.

    • @jacksonvoet8312
      @jacksonvoet8312 14 днів тому

      @@BJGvideos To be fair, Zinnia at least is a dedicated and powerful Draconid, who is a decent second choice for Rayquaza to partner with. Suicune probably just partnered up with Eusine for a month or two so that he’d finally give up afterwards.

  • @Clear1
    @Clear1 Рік тому +4

    honestly, passio's ghetsis should have known better than to wipe out John Wick's dog.
    now look what did you make Paulo do.

  • @Zpanda1000
    @Zpanda1000 Рік тому +10

    I was under the impression that in the games, Lysandre was either killed by Yveltal in Y or granted immortality by Xerneas in X but was trapped in his underground lair forever

  • @mayalonde1138
    @mayalonde1138 8 місяців тому +2

    Volo is now in masters and is still into his shenanigans, manipulating people left and right.

  • @Elite_Teach
    @Elite_Teach Рік тому +6

    I always assumed Giovanni ran out of funds for Team Rocket and decided to give up

  • @Musasensei1674
    @Musasensei1674 Рік тому +12

    I love cyrus
    Cyrus music is best

  • @jay_utopia2651
    @jay_utopia2651 10 місяців тому +3

    I bloody love the insanity that is the Adventures manga

  • @ScaryClownProduction
    @ScaryClownProduction Рік тому +2

    Insane theory: Chairman Rose commits [redacted]. We last see him standing over a chasm and never see him after we beat him. Sure the cops claim to have arrested him, but that could be them (or PokeCo) saying "Yes we caught the bad man and he totally didn't jump off this very high tower". Every time you meet up with Oleana, she talked about him in the past tense and in the Frozen Tundra, is looking for Rose in a GRAVEYARD!

  • @daniellelondon439
    @daniellelondon439 Рік тому +3

    I assume, even though we don't actually get to see it, Volo gets his life together after the events of legends, because Cynthia is his descendant.

  • @KingCringeson
    @KingCringeson Рік тому +51

    Always had a headcanon that Archie and Maxie were holding hands and walking away off to the sunset together

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +19

      I love that the official Pokémon Twitter essentially confirmed Hardenshipping a few years ago by showing their TCG cards in a heart shaped frame.

  • @weepingvessel
    @weepingvessel 5 місяців тому +2

    So in the manga maxie and archie die, go to hell, fuse their souls. Then crawl out of hell to be reborn into their old bodies, what the hell

  • @dnatal09
    @dnatal09 Рік тому +14

    My thoughts:
    Giovanni: The most determined and the true OG of all the pokevillains.
    Arch and Max: Blinded by ideals but Gets slapped by reality and turned a new leaf
    Cyrus: He gets what he want but a total jerk in the end.
    Ghestis: A dark idealist manipulator but very lame without his power.
    Lysandre: Total Elitist who cares only to rule the world, but he gets vaporized by a robo-plasmatic pokemon known as Zygarde.
    Guzma: Tough gangster but a very pathetic coward when confronted.
    Rose: Just straight up ambitious but also humble and easy to turn himself in.

  • @merrygalaxy2515
    @merrygalaxy2515 Рік тому +2

    Cyrus's fate in the anime is literally the "but what if God said" meme

  • @Joesbadatlife
    @Joesbadatlife Рік тому +19

    I would argue that Professor Sada/Turo is the antagonist of SV, they just failed before the story started

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому +5

      And then their goal just kept going because they fucked over the AI so badly, enslaving it to their will despite the AI having free will and independent thought

  • @anwenlokier2292
    @anwenlokier2292 Рік тому +1

    In my school vr game, Cyrus gets 2 new companions in the destortion world who are the main protagonists of Gundam witch from mercury after Goalius kicked them both into Giratina who teleported both the the destortion world only to find Cyrus dead

  • @lorennelson2950
    @lorennelson2950 Рік тому +3

    There is the implication that Lysandre is still alive, just trapped after his failure IIRC.

  • @theosophical5197
    @theosophical5197 Рік тому +2

    How I think each and every team is now:
    Giovanni: Using the wealth he gained from Team Rocket he constantly travels the world like a vagabond, testing the skills of trainers, and just overall exploring the world. The International Police gave up on trying to hunt him down since he kept moving, being unable to be caught with his team of extremely strong pokemon. He often passes by trainers on routes and teaches them of one thing, "No matter how strong you are, someday...you'll lose"
    Archie and Maxie: After almost dooming the entire damn world, I think they would have a little trouble in the public spotlight for awhile. The truce the both of them have would occasionally almost break but it would quickly get repaired. Archie and Maxie would likely begin protecting the land and sea from people who dare try to ruin it, using their influence as leaders of Team Magma and Team Aqua. (A little side note for Archie, he would advocate to protect the world's marine life after seeing Galarian Corsola)
    Cyrus with Two possible outcomes: He dies in the Distortion world after being left there with no food, or he returns to the world with the same damn goals in mind, not even a single change of heart, bro just wants to create a new world. he'd probably get put under arrest at some point and remain there for a long time...
    Colress: He's often traveling the world of search for new things, I imagine him traveling to Galar and Paldea to research Dynamax and Terastalization. he'd keep in touch with the Ultra Recon squad in searching for new appearances of Ultra beast that can potentially danger the world.
    Ghetsis: Im not gonna lie to you, this dude is just gonna get arrested for a very long time
    Lysandre: So his outcome is different in the two games, He either dies from the Ultimate Weapon in Y or he becomes Immortal and lives eternally under the rubble of Team Flare's base. Maybe in X he eventually gets found and taken under custody by the International Police. He may one day breakout but who really knows :/
    Guzma: Hangs out with everyone once and awhile, he trains with Hala for a year or two and eventually becomes a trial captain for a bug type totem pokemon.
    Lusamine: Going by USUMs ending, Im gonna say she'll continue to lead the Aether Foundation in creating a safer Alola, but on the side...she'll dedicate her time to repenting for all the wrongs she did to Gladion and Lillie. Communications between the Ultra recon squad would also continue as they strive to keep the world safe from the Ultra beasts that would threaten it. She would also begin bringing out her foundation's research to the world, introducing Type: Null into the world
    Rose: he'd server his prison sentence, he wouldn't ever make a public appearance and instead he may try to reconnect with Peony back in the Crown Tundra while bringing Oleana along too.
    Volo: He likely left Hisui and settled down in another region, he may have even started a family with someone he grew to love. His aspirations to meet Arceus and create a new world would likely dwindle as he grows to enjoy the world that already exists.
    Sada and Turo: Dead as hell, getting away with bringing thousands of pokemon that can cause serious damage to the environment
    Ai Sada and Turo: Wandering their respective times for years.

  • @Mysticgamer
    @Mysticgamer Рік тому +4

    I want to play a pokemon game in one of the fallen timelines that's run by one of successful villians. Instead of going on the regular pokemon journey, you join a resistance or something. Gym leaders would be the villian's lieutenants and instead of hikers and power plant workers, it would be hired goons, mooks, and crooked officials or something. Maybe wild pokemon could be shadow pokemon or something, i don't know i loved the sense of peril in legends arceus.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos Рік тому

      Well when you get down to it, Rose basically won so I guess that means you can play that game...

  • @jthom929
    @jthom929 21 день тому +1

    Imagine your a grown adult with an ultimate weapon then died to a child who isn’t even ten😂