Transitioning From Military To Civilian Law Enforcement
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Next interview: Border Patrol, ICE agent, School Resource Officer? Great interviews!
He did interview an SRO already
They ate bad they captured poppa n momma
22 years as a USAF SP (straight leg and K9) and it is a much more controlled environment. I did see tons of stuff minus kidnappings. I was even stabbed once on duty. But most of us had uneventful careers. Thank God.
Man I miss working with the K-9 handlers I got stuck in CATM
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Stabbed?
This video was everything I have been looking for! I am 9 months out from getting out of the navy as an MA and I have started the process with San Antonio PD. Thanks for the information and I look forward to seeing more stuff like this.
From a San Antonian goodluck!!
* 7 months
i’m san antonio i have 18 months left in the marine corps
You should interview a Game Warden next.
Northern Midwestern states we call them Conservation Officers. Some the best cops, but also an extremely dangerous occupation compared to other LEO’s because of geographical context.
Don't they have jurisdiction on any land? That's what I've always heard. Please correct me if it's not true.
@@flowerpeddler8306 I think just in the state they’re in
Absolutely loved this video!! I’m current Army still (Infantry) just became an Army recruiter, I want to become Law Enforcement still and this gave me great insight and gave me some good hope for getting ready to transition out after this contract! Love the videos keep up the good content!
I completed BCT/AIT at fort leanoard Wood less than one year ago. I start Oklahoma City police department academy in 4 months. I volunteered all summer for 3 months helping with Covid and civil unrest for the guard. I am looking forward to it
get jocko willink and this is set
@@ThisHeatOnly jocko will tell you that cops are undertrained and pretty terrible.
Same I graduated OSUT in FLW a little over a year and half ago and been to multiple activations since then. I start my PD academy next month.
When I receive a notification for a new 401 video I make sure to pull over in a parking lot and indulge. Makes these looong ass night shifts go by faster. Thank you for your content sir 👍
Thank you for your support, my friend!
Former marine security forces and current civilian police officer here. Semper Fi. If you do a part 2, you should explain the difference between the codes of justice and peace officer certifications and the transfers of that to different states with regards to there POST tests and reciprocity testing after the military.
I would really emphasize this in a part 2 as well... The military police enforces federal law and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. (UCMJ). As a local municipal officer, you will enforce state statutes, certain federal laws if it's not covered by your state already, and local city/county ordinances.
The UCMJ for the military is way different, and so is the whole judicial process and procedures from the way they arrest and put people on trial to they way administer punishments. NJP's, court marshals, other administrative type restrictions and what not, they have a plethora of punishment options that are relevant to the military atmosphere that are completely irrelevant and not a thing in civilian world. Loss of rank, barracks restriction, etc...
In my experience. Civilian LE requires you have to have alot more articulation skills, alot more knowledge regarding laws and statutes, better speaking abilities and a ton more patience with people!!! You are not dealing with service members who are used to being barked at all day and treated like shit as a daily routine. You're not dealing with enemy EPW's in a foreign country warzone that no one back home can point out on a map. You're dealing with local average joe people who are part of the community that you live and work in. If you mess up with civilians, you will gain a bad reputation for yourself and the whole department. That's a fast way to get fired, sued and end up in the news. Eventually becoming "bad case law" as we LEO's like to call it.
The laws are alot pickier and more stringent. You have to be careful in civilian world to not overstep your bounds. In the military, infringing on peoples rights is pretty much non existent. They don't care, and theres pretty much a clause in the UCMJ or base policy somewhere that allows MP's to do whatever they need in the course of their duties. In civilian world, the constitution is a huge thing and people DO have rights. Don't overstep your bounds!!! Know your perimeters and limitations!!!
I've seen 10 times the action as a civilian police officer that I did in the military. When it comes to fighting a war, I would choose the military. When it comes to policing and LE, I would choose civilian police before military MP in terms of professionalism and experience.
Civilian police will also have alot more discretion than military police. MP's are gonna be very "by the book" usually and do what they're command tells them to do. Civilian LE agency's generally delegate many decision making actions to the officers themselves. So be prepared to be more decisive as well.
Sorry this was long but I had alot to say. Thanks. Keep up the good work.
I served 6 years as Security Police (Forces) for the Air Force. I was stationed at a SAC base which included special weapons. We had restricted area signs posted every 100 feet around the area, also attached were signs announcing that "Use of Deadly Force is Authorized" We had several restricted areas on the flightline, not all of them were fenced, however this meant we had to have our eyeballs peeled to watch every inch. If we had to arrest someone it was called a apprehension instead of arrest. We also had two departments, weapons systems security and law enforcement. Law enforcement had the K-9's and would work with us to patrol the weapons storage area which was about 2 square miles in size. It could be a highly stressful job which during my time we would talk it out, we always had others around to help support us. We were out in all weather, at all times and always watching. Usually the only people on the base that were armed were the alert crews, both sides of security police and some Munitions Maintenance people. No one chose to challenge our authority as that would result in you standing before your commander, and that was never a good day!!! We had to qualify for the human reliability program every six months due to special weapons, we had to qualify on our weapons (M-16) (SW special 38 revolver) M-203 Grenade Launcher, M-60 machine gun every six months and sign and be able to recite Air Force Regulation 125-26 Use of force policy when asked by a supervisor. You had your training recorded updated every three months no matter if needed. You were recognized if you over achieved by means of a achievement certificate or commendation. I as a supervisor would constantly train my airmen to take my place and place them in charge of small details to gauge what they have learned. We did not do much physical training which I can not explain. At least in my experience our airmen were in good to great shape. As a Security Police Supervisor you mentored your airmen to excel in the job so they could promote and take your place.
Wow
This question of military trained public police force is an intelligent question indeed, a discussion that should be happening in the public arena, and not just your private channel. All the same kudos for addressing it. Pros and Cons on both side of this issue. When I was a young woman fresh out of the military I didn’t think a militaristic police force was in the best interest of the public, as of late I’ve felt differently. My thoughts are not what’s important here, it’s for Cities and departments to decide. The thinking officer always preforms best.
I did this in '84. Literally a one-month MP to PD transition, first hired on in the Jail and then Patrol 4 months later. Did my cert(s) nights and weekends as no county $ was available to send anyone to the academy that year. Military LEO exp. was a plus, taken at full-value because they needed that sworn position filled.
Unfortunately, many large departments prejudge military police experience nowadays, saying it doesnt count - even though techniques and Technology of both domains are closer together than ever..
Retired MA1... Loved the job (especially overseas ATFP)... got a lot of training and loved the work (especially overseas). Really enjoyed working with the LE overseas especially the Italian Carabinieri (those guys are nuts!)
I was USAF Security Forces and I was a grumpy bastard on OC day of academy too! All my classmates kept saying things like "come on dude, it can't be that bad." and I was just a dick, "Nope. It sucks. Leave me alone. Stop trying to cheer me up. I hate everything. This hate will push me through. Stop trying to take it from me." and then TWO of my classmates were part of the 7% or so of the population that is unaffected by it. I was so mad. The instructors were eating up my suffering. LOL
Watched this vid 3 times just to soak up every bit of information! Thanks officer 401!!!
I have a friend who wanted to join his local police dept. and he said he couldn't because he has tension. By the means by that is he has A little PTSD and every time someone surprises him he still reaches for his sidearm even know he doesn't have one on him.
Almost all departments require a psychological evaluation.
Yeah, not the right job for him for sure.
@@strong_hungry_dad8502 yea my plan was to join the military then go into policing and it made me rethink it
I still have that PTSD issue too. Sometimes I leave my off duty at home and something startles me while I'm out (which is rare and difficult to do with me, cuz I can usually hear or smell people coming or see them in a reflection, or just feel someone approaching) and I end up reaching for my weapon that's not there. PTSD is difficult. Just started being able to somewhat handle being around fireworks after almost 20 years.
@@TRUMNIB I don’t think I could deal with that.
I haven't finished the whole video but I'm former SF from the USAF and the national critical infrastructure intrigued me, for any Civilian LE. The protection of national critical infrastructure applied to us for various things, for example dudes trying to break into a water treatment facility or a massive power producing area with intent to harm others (based on totality of circumstances) I'd assume Civilian LE might have the same authority to stop that person as my former job as SF, (national critical infrastructure is one of the 8 reasons of deadly force) I also did nuclear security and I believe the local agency had an agreement with us that if for whatever impossible reason a nuke got captured the Civilian LE would help us in our recapture/recovery immediately and I'd imagine from a civilian LE side they'd also consider that as Inherently dangerous property/national critical infrastructure (both reasons for deadly force for military police). I think those lines might be a big Grey area. I'm not a civilian LEO yet, I took some time off after the military so it's intriguing to see both sides and I'm sure I'll learn a whole lot more after I apply for my local PD
On the topic of military vs civilian police, yes military especially my job that was low manning doing nuclear security, mission comes first. My girlfriend at the time was having a miscarriage with my child and I was still told to arm up and do a 6am-6pm shift, and it was the beginning of my work cycle so I had to work Friday-sunday. The military really does ask more of you. In fact my direct supervisor told me that since she was not my wife it wasn't an issue, they needed me for manning
This has been very informative and educational. interesting story also. not only is strong hungry dads story interesting it would be great to hear from a U.S. Army MP also. i have been fortunate to talk with some U.S. Army MP's in the past and like all Military personnel's story's the U.S. Army MP was just as great.
I was actually an MA in the Navy and am now in civilian LE. This is spot on information
I was on an LE base. We did work with local police when we had major incidents or events happen
I'm a junior in high school and all this is spot-on 😂
Question: during your panel interview did the board members ask much about your military background or your experiences?
Every panel will be different, but you can usually expect the "what do you bring to the table" kind of question. That's when you sell your experience!
Some panels will ask about prior military experience, but for the most part, they use an "across-the-board" approach in asking every candidate the same questions.
@@officer401 Ok so i plan becoming a cop it's something I've always wanted to do how do i apply to become a police officer do i have to call the department?? Or apply online or go into the department and pick up a application form how does it work??
@@matthewwest7906 most departments have a website where it says what you need to do to apply
@@FBIAGENT725 Yea cuz i live in Eugene and i looked it up and couldn't find a site to apply
Got out the Army 3 years ago just got a call back from my investigator hopefully I get accepted into the academy.
How did it go?
I did that in 1995. Retired from Navy MA and became a Sheriff's Investigator. Biggest difference was the rule-set. UCMJ vs Costitutional Law.
Spot on. I was a paralegal in the Air Force, equivalent of Legalman in the Navy. Got out and went civilian LE instead of a civilian paralegal career (got tired of bein stuck behind a desk). It is a very different rule-set comparing UCMJ to Constitutional Law.
Been doing State FP for the longest now. Can't wait to transition over to a civilian police department. Just kinda hoping my service credit can transfer over!
Was looking forward to this video and it didn't disappoint!
I worked with him on the ship! Awesome man to work with and for! Local police going on base is more common usually to pick up someone from the precinct.
Baby face uploaded hell yeah Keep up the great work 401💙🖤
This video is fantastic. Every civilians should watch this video. Civilians do not realize the training that we must continually go through. And yes it is so sad that one or two bad apples (yes they usually come in pairs)will jeopardize the whole unit.
I joined security forces when I was 18. Didn't do anything amazing when I was in, but I only really joined to 1. serve the country and 2. start my law enforcement career early. I have been a civilian police officer for years and I do believe the air force gave me proper training and foundation to become a cop on the outside however you nailed it in the video, 6 months as a civilian I was already on CNN and had seen more bs than I could've ever imagined lmao! great video.
what do you think about MP in the Marines? I know you don’t have experience in it, but I heard people say SF in Air Force is useless to law enforcement and same with MP. They say MP experience is the same as getting a Criminal justice degree 😭. My goal is federal law enforcement, but I have no idea what MOS to choose and what branch
@@gabrielrivera5758 I know a few MPs in other branches and honestly if federal is what you are looking for I would personally use the military (any branch) to get your degree while you are a MP. Most federal agencies don’t require you to have civilian law enforcement experience but as long as you have the degree with military police background I believe you stand a good chance at landing a federal law enforcement job. But I’m telling you that at times it will be boring work standing at gates etc. however, it could set you up for what you really want to do.
@@ThomasFarris Alright thanks for the advice man much appreciated
Very informative!
Him talking about the guy who missed his child’s birth because they were deployed. It hit close to home. I’m sure a lot of military children can relate.
GOD BLESS YOU BOTH THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND SACRIFICES YOU AND YOUR FAMILY MADE/MAKE BECAUSE YOU SERVE/D (WEETIES DAD) GUEST I SORRYFOR YOUR LOSS, I SEEN YOU ARE WEARING A MILLATARY MATE MEMORIAL BRACELET "LEAST WE FORGET-NEVER FORGOTTEN" TO ALL WHO SERVE/D, MILLATARY, CIVILIAN AND YES THERE ARE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN OUR SERVICES, AS A CIVVY I WAS A ( FIRST AID OFFICER/TRAINER/ NURSE AND PARAMEDIC THEN AS AN AUZZIE PONGO (SOLDIER) MEDIC I KNEW MANY OF OF BOTH YOU GUYS AND LOVED EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, YOU WERE ALL MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN ARMS GOD BLESS ALL WHO WEARS A UNIFORM INCLUDING (PAWS AND HOOVE OFFICERS) AND THEIR FAMILIES BECAUSE YOU MAKE A DIFFERENCE EVERY JOB, EVERY PERSON, EVERY DAY YOU SERVE THANK YOU :):);):):)
This is my life currently. Thanks for the info!
My one friend was an Air Force veteran. He was in security and law enforcement and security forces for a while. I love his stories.
Officer 401, can you please explain the difference between the S.T.E.P unit and the H.E.A.T unit in Georgia? Notice some offices/departments offer either HEAT or STEP unit in regards to traffic enforcement. Thanks!
As a current MP in the army,and also planning to do law enforcement when i get out, lot of what he is saying is very true,im split between soldier and cop so there's only handful of things i deal with as opposed to civilian sector. I am honestly excited to get into law enforcement
What college degree are you guys pursue?
Like what subject?
@@HateTheIRS you can pursue any degree you want in law enforcement or military up to you,personally i dont like school but i know the option is there if i want or need it
@@ericklozada2440 don’t most police departments require at least an associates degree?
Well since you were active duty military in states like Connecticut they have a military to civilian law-enforcement transition program, or for some police departments you can substitute college for military service so I don’t think you would need it but me I’m in the National Guard so I don’t have any active duty time so I need to get a college degree unfortunately maybe it would’ve been better if I gone active.
@@HateTheIRS depends what department you're going for,not all require college
Im in the process of joining the Marine Corps right now (actually leaving for boot camp in 3 weeks) but its always been my long term dream to become a LEO, ill probably come to this video in 4 years.
DO NOT get an NJP/Mast. That will hurt you.
good luck bro!
Keep that in mind the whole 4 years (Or more) you are in. DWI, Drugs, doing illegal stuff, Stealing, any "crimes of moral turpitude". This all sounds obvious but seriously don't lose track of that during your time in. Good Luck in the Marines. #1 rule keep moving don't stop. Can't stop time.
Trust me, learn as much of the academic stuff of the MC before shipping out. You will 100% be so stressed from the lack of sleep and food and intensity of the DIs that learning any new information will be extremely difficult. Learn your 11 general orders, JJ DID TIE BUCKLE, battles of WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Korea, Marine Corps hymn, Chesty Puller, John Basilone, etc. and don't take ANYTHING personally. I wish you best!
I wish you good luck. Hope you and others come back home safely to your family. I’m not in the military, but I know people who are and have served. You will have lots of fun with the drill instructors. :-)
Question: Between military and civilian LE, what has brought the most memorable/traumatic/life changing experiences?
Good shit guys. Stay safe and thank you both!
One advantage of civilian police work over military is: Not having to deal with Comissioned Officers and some NCO's. If I recall, UA-cam Channel "Combat Veteran" has a great anecdote about one such interaction. He pulled over a lieutenant and the Lt. tried to pull rank on him. Then C.V. uttered a phrase that would result in a push-up blank check. He said: "Don't confuse your rank, with my authority." Ya, he said that. Military members will undoubtedly understand the incendiary properties of that statement/remark.
I'm doing the opposite. Current nypd and just swore into army national guard off to basic in January. (I stay employed w nypd while on orders so I hold both jobs)
Are you en listing as a military police officer?
@@HateTheIRS 11b infantry
@@KJ-xn7yc interesting. You’ll probably be bunched up with a bunch of college, older people, since you ship out in January, your platoon/company might be smaller than average, in the summer months it might swell to 200 people for a company, during winter months, I remember my DS saying they had a class of 60 for the entire company during January.
Maybe I’m being over dramatic, maybe 150 during the summer, I can’t remember how many were in my company. Around that ball park.
It’s going to be tough at first, I’m sure you can handle it, after red phase, you wake yourselves up, get ready by yourselves, it’s not like the marine corps where they literally physically wake you up every day.
It might even get a little relaxed after a while.
The one thing you’re gonna hate is reception, especially with this pandemic, reception is so mind numbingly boring and monotonous, especially if you’re going to be quarantined.
Anyway, good luck,
Are you getting paid by the NYPD while you’re going to basic training?
Is that you in your profile picture? LOL
@@HateTheIRS I appreciate the advice and knowledge!! I get 30 days of paid leave from the PD, so il get paid by them till the end of Feb. and yeah at my last competition lol
Planning to be an MP in Army Reserves after this year, thanks for the help! Hopefully this works out the way I planned.
Good for you but it’s not as fun as it might sound.
One of the best things stated was "Don't be a jerk." Right on!
Really liked this video, I’ve now been working at my agency for 7 months. Have experienced a pandemic and 2 major hurricanes.
I am Air Force security forces (MP) can’t wait to get out and transfer to civilian LE. That was always my plan but I wanted to set myself up for success so I decided to join first and go to school while being active duty.
I unfortunately got stationed at Minot AFB doing nuclear security, instead of LE. Any advice for someone who was an MP but did not have much LE experience in their career?
As someone in the Air Force Guard who plans on getting his criminal justice degree while in the AF I want to say thank you for this.
CJ degrees are useless
@@96bretg true. I have one. Complete garbage.
Great plan/ goals. Go for it. Good luck 🇺🇸.
@@96bretg so what degree should I get if I’m going to get an associates degree what degree would you recommend if I want to apply to a police department?
@@ThatGuy40640 what degree would be most beneficial for me if I were to apply to a police department?
Yes! 100%. I’m Security Forces. For those wondering my unit specifically works with our local and county very frequently. The jurisdiction butts up right to our base and our housing is privatized so for certain things. Local will respond on base. As well as active shooters anywhere on base local will respond
JBSA?
Navy: Master at arms
Airforce: Security forces
Army: Military police
*All the same job*
Marines: also military police (MP)
Security forces were the worst investigators when I was an MP.... same goes with us army guys vs af guys who are cops
@@PrivateLongo in terms of training which branch do you think provides the best?
@@Theking-wz6uh it's not only about training, it's also about experience, and a Navy Master at Arms can be sent anywhere, being stationed at Guantanamo bay looks really impressive.
Coast guard: Maritime Enforcement
Yikes, I’m sorry for my grammar there.. I have brought great shame upon my family. In all seriousness I would like to thank Mr.401 for picking my comment and strong hungry dad for such a complex and well worded answer.
I really wanted MP in the marine corps but once I joined they told me there’s a height limit of 5’4 and I’m barely 5ft so I ended up picking legal services pretty much paralegal because I really enjoy studying criminal justice. I may try to end up becoming a cop after my 4 years or try to be a cop and be a marine officer as a reserves or just be some JAG officer (lawyer in the military)
Never knew there was a height requirement for MP. I was a paralegal in the Air Force, got out and went civilian LE. Training definitely helped with writing police reports, legal research and testifying in court. If you decide to get out and do civilian LE you'll have a leg up in those areas. BTW, we have a quite a few females on my current agency who are in the 5ft height range...but they definitely know how to handle themselves out on the street and project that command presence.
@@BPD1586 I thought about becoming an officer or go FBI or city LE I’m torn on one of these two I’m not even sure if I can be in the reserves while being in the FBI
As always, an amazing video. And thank you both for your service.
I would always tell someone to join the military if given the option. Why?! Because you receive so many benefits after your service…the GI BILL, VA house loan, veteran preference. You get NONE of these benefits if you’re only a civilian law enforcement guy. Not even federal civilian law enforcement get benefits.
Go MP first if you can. It also looks great on your resume.
It would be so cool if you would do a podcasts or something and invite guests, ask questions, have a conversation and so on. I'd watch/listen to it
Up here in Canada, Military Police do not hold peace officer status provincially, so they cannot write provincial moving violations, or enforce any provincial legislation, including mental health related stuff. So if someone needs to be put on a psychiatric hold in base housing, or receive a provincial DUI, the local police respond go the base to enforce it on behalf of the MPs.
Would this be the same for any military job? I have a year and some change left and I was wondering if coming from a communications job in the military would benefit me if I was looking to go into Law Enforcement afterwards?
Great video. I’m currently active duty Air Force security forces. Planning on going to civilian law enforcement. I’m not sure what to really expect. I also do not know what department to apply for. City, county, or state.
I was an Army MP back in the day and became a State Trooper a year and a half after leaving active duty. 22 years later, I retired with a full pension and benefits.
You Sir have done Gods work getting the LEO message out there...
This is going to be a very informative video thank you!
I hope it helped! Thanks for watching💪
Awesome video man thanks a lot
I was arrested twice in the Navy and both times the MAs were very polite.
Oh no
Thank you for your service
22:34 I've had a headache all day and this was the first laugh I've had, thank you.
there is always someone saying o7, and as you drive by saluting you from their cars, echoing thank you for your service as you walk past, waving the thinblueline flag with pride, and cheering you on
When it comes to an MP/MA stationed on a Base/Post in one of the States do they only enforce UCMJ violations or do they enforce the Local, State and other Federal Laws and Ordinances as well?
You do enforce local Law to an extent, there is a lot mpre to it than could be explained in comments.
@@strong_hungry_dad8502 Thanks and great video with @officer401 hope you do more together!
My daughter is currently an MP in the Army. She’s says he’s spot on!😀
She laughed her ass off at the “respect your authority” part.
Edit: As her mom, I really enjoyed this video! Thank you!!
Question: She does A LOT of paperwork. Is there less of it in the civilian PD’s?
Where’s she stationed?
No, there is likely more unfortunately!
When were you in Bahrain? I was in Bahrain from 2016 to 2019, worked land side in Delta section. I appreciate the information.
I needed this video
I'm joining the army. Shipping out as a 31b (military police) on July 13. This will be the start to my law enforcement career.
@Di Bo Chet I'm in, three more years and I'm done with the army.
Gentlemen thank you brother for your service.
Glad to see this so early.
Watching this during the commercials of the Braves-Dodgers game 7. It’s really helping my nerves 😬 thanks 401
Got love knowledge with experience!
I'm getting out of security forces in a few months a question I had was regarding whether its better or easier to wait till you've got that dd214 in hand to begin the hiring process or trying to start before you've fully separated? I'm also separating being stationed overseas.
Thatcis going to be difficult, but at least reach outvro the recruiter for the agencies you are intrested in. They can help you get started early.
Do you have a college degree Clint Mayes?
@@HateTheIRS working on finishing my associates before separating
I’m Air Force security forces and when I was stationed in England ministry of defense police could come on base when ever they wanted. Other local law enforcement could for official business only and we did have a situation where they came on.
You get stationed in places like England that’s crazy I’ve never heard of an army base in England!
Yooo fellow MA here with 5 years in, 2 to go. I’m curious. Will police agencies look at your evals or quals during the hiring process?
The Agency or Department might ask that you provide the Evals, I have seen some Departments websites require you provide them, they don't have a way to see the evals themselves, the Feds might be able to access them though.
Ok another question. In the video you hear the prior service member kind of seem apprehensive to saying that a stint in the military as an MP is good experience for getting a job as a cop. I’ve also heard of departments that actively stay away from recruiting prior MPs for the same reasons he states in the video. So is being an MP really a benefit or a hinderance if seeking a job as a state or local cop?
I wouldn't say it would hinder you from getting a job. It really does establish a good base for being a civilian cop. You just have to remember when you get out, you still have a lot to learn!
Hey boss I’m very much interested to be a Police Officer, I meet all the requirements only have a High School diploma. Should I apply at now, or should I take a 24 week program 5 days a week 8 hours a day at my local community college called “Peace Officer Basic Training” or should I take my shot and just apply as is? I understand that being a Police Officer is very competitive. I’m 23 years old I would like to know your feed back. Thank you!
How many agencies did you apply for and how many did you get turned down from? I recently just got out the military and have been applying at multiple agencies and some still turned me down. I got a little discouraged but still currently trying. It Sucks when you go through the steps up the ladder to get hired only to get turned down and you got to start from step one again. By the way thanks for the helpful information.
Also why don’t agencies disclose why you didn’t get hired? I talk to the HR and they said they don’t fully disclose that kind of information.
Wow, that's one hell of a transition. ;)
I am trying to get hired by my local town Police Department and get sponsored for the Police Academy. I start the Selection process very soon and the Academy starts in 2 months. The process here is fast and streamlined. However, I really want to join the military and this Department is very open to Guard/Reserve and just military service in general.
If hired and once I complete the FTO Program, I am going to join the Army National Guard for an 18-Xray Series Special Forces Candidate Contract.
However, I wanted to know if that was a good idea? Military Special Operations is my dream. And if I don't get hired I would join the Active Duty for Army 18X or Air Force Special Warfare Pararescue.
Would it have been better for me to do Military first or is joining Spec-Ops in Guard/Reserve while already being a Police Officer feasible and okay?
Thank you!
Didn’t watch the video but I will say this: in my police academy there were 3 army vets including myself. Infantry (me), a recon guy, and an MP. Myself and recon did great but Mr. MP did not. He had a lot of bad habits that he would not or could not break.
Did the mp make it through the academy?
SelfMadeTray Yes he did. It’s not like he was terrible. It was just obvious that he had some hang-ups. He actually got into a little argument with a firearms instructor because his draw from holster was messed up and he was struggling with the mechanics.
I’m looking to join law enforcement and I’ve got a clean record/ college degree and security work experience. My biggest weakness is I dread being in the spotlight/center of attention, specifically interviews. This doesn’t affect my work though, I’m comfortable talking to folks and enforcing policies it’s just that scenario where I have 4 sets of eyes on me while in a room freaks me out.
You just have to make sure you prepare ahead of time! Don't let that keep you from going for it!
What college degree do you have?
I do have to say the comment made about the crime seen is incorrect. In 6 months I have worked burglaries, agg assault, homicide, suicide, narcotics schedule 1 to 5, larcenies, accidents...your work load as an MP depends on your military base
Getting out of the USMC in around 9 months on General Discharge under honorable and medical conditions due to an injury in a training accident and ended up getting shoulder surgery on my dominant arm and have slight range of motion issues and am looking at getting an amount of military disability would any of these things be a disqualifier for departments? Also where does being infantry fit in as a good or bad thing for applying to a department
If you can clear the medical screening for the hiring process it should be a non issue. I know someone in my academy with a 70% disability rating.
Your MOS means jack when applying and working as a cop, even as an mp. What does matter is how well you did in your job and can you dictate your military background/experience as to why it will serve you and the citizens you’ll serve as a cop. Did you lead people, do it well, and can effectively communicate to higher ups? Do you have recognition for excellent performance of your duties? Did you have to be interpersonal at times?
Unfortunately from my experience in the corps the only good thing specifically grunts have going for them when it comes to police work is dealing with an absolute butt load of bs on a day to day basis and general knowledge of weapons systems, since you’re used to firearm shooting.
I’m not saying you’re not qualified cause I know infantrymen that became cops but overall the mos just doesn’t correlate directly very well at all to law enforcement. It’s neither good nor bad, it all depends.
Proud of you buddy! Good job keep up the good work!
Had some great role models along the way!
Thank you for doing this I get out in December current navy
Sweet DD 214
He could take us all in a fight
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I've always wanted to get into Law Enforcement after serving about 4 years in the Army Infantry, but I'm no where near in shape that I should be and truth be told I've kind of given up on it after a lot of issues I'd much rather not get into on a comment. Anyways I love your content 401!
Sorry to hear that brother but just remember if you really want to do something no matter how impossible it seems, u can always achieve if u want it bad enough
You dont have to be infantry in the military for law enforcement
I’m going to do security forces for Air Force, then when I get out I’m trying to become FBI swat I have always wanted to work for the FBI. Definitely got to get that bachelor’s degree though.
Dude go for it! A degree would help you greatly aswell and if you keep that security clearance active it will help you a lot with getting a Federal position like that.
@@Metal7771 Yeah the Air Force also gets me an associates degree for criminal justice but I’m gonna go for that bachelor’s degree. Yeah any MP position in the armed forces will for sure help you to get into any police job. It’s a very good start for someone who wants a law enforcement background thanks for the support man.
@@tristancrouse6106 Don't let them fool you like they did me. Don't expect to get any credits out of it. Most of them will only apply to your CCAF and when you try to transfer the CCAF to a civilian college you'll be disappointed about how many credits they transfer.
I was gonna do secutity forces ,but I hear people rather take a army mp over them
I'm 14 and I already know what I want to be I want to go into law enforcement, because I think police they don't just protect us, they also do community service they help kids they do a lot more than just respond to armed robberies, and I've always been helpful, I've always been truthful, and I'm ready for the mental and physical things that will come my way into law enforcement, and I'm ready I'm going to do everything I can so I can go in too law enforcement
Good for you
I'd like for you to have on a DoD, DLA, VA, or any of those federal police officers on.
401 IN DA HOOOUSE
I'm going to join either the air force or USCG ,is there school or something in law enforcement I can take while I serve so when I finish I cam go directly to any police department?
The larger PDs like the NYPD when it comes to time off tend to be set up like the military. They have to approve the time off except sick days (anything over 2 days requires a doctors). So if you are thinking of taking a holiday off and you don't have a lot of time on the job then you are just wasting the form to request time off, because it will be denied.
I am currently 15. Im planning on doing infantry active duty in the army for four years and then transition to law enforcement as a police officer afterwards. Is this possible? And do i need to go to college for it? I'm currently in jrotc compelting my first year
What camera do you use?
Maybe a good idea and try a video for people who want to crossover from corrections to law enforcement and what are the differences
Great video. Would you mind doing a video on the juvenile arrest/ detention process?
27 min?!??!! Yes sir 🤙🏼
Sustainment shoots are live fire now.
Dude clearly was never stationed at fort hood.
Very interesting and good video
I'm 28, just started college classes for sociology, live in Southern California and want to become a cop but I also want to move out of this state before it gets too bad. Should I wait until I move out of state to try to become a cop or apply here and lateral to wherever I end up moving to?
I would wait, transferring a certification can be difficult.
@@strong_hungry_dad8502 thank you.