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Colonel Bansod's first reinvention- the INSAS BULLPUP
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- Опубліковано 22 чер 2024
- The #INSAS rifle had a rather short and unimaginative existence- dogged by quality control issues through a 25 year service life, it never found favour with the army. It went through multiple and incremental iterations-- the 1A, B and C- before the army switched calibers in 2020 and went for a heavier battle rifle (the SiG 7.62) and another assault rifle the AK-203. But around this time, a brilliant young Indian Army officer saw potential in this weapon and reimagined it as a bullpup optimised for Close Quarter Battle Ops that could help him and his mates fight in confined spaces.
He chopped the 960 mm long fixed-butt weapon to around 600 mm...cut the 464 mm long barrel to around 300 mm. optimised it for a range of around 100 metres. Fitted it with a new 30-round box magazine (polymer with steel inserts) four Picattiny rails- and (neglected to mention this in video) two M-Lok rails.
As you all know, the INSAS family had three weapons, an AR, LMG and CQB carbine. The AR and LMG were inducted but the CQB carbine was rejected because of flash and recoil issues. The bullpup INSAS is an imaginative solution which could have been tried. (Im told there was one such attempt in the past, but didn't succeed).
The officer who designed and developed the INSAS bullpup ? Colonel Prasad Bansod- who then went on to bigger and greater things like the ASMI 9 mm SMG. The INSAS bullpup is where he cut his teeth.
The only prototype of this weapon is kept in Colonel Bansod's parent unit- the Indian Army's Infantry School in Mhow.
I haven't seen the weapon in action, but i'm told its quite reliable. Perhaps there is merit in resurrecting this design for special duty tasks.
Friends, must clarify that this video was shot in 2020. A lot of water has flowed down the Ganga since this prototype was created- but it still merits re-examination as a potential conversion of small numbers of INSAS for special tasks. a lot cost carbine conversion.
Itna late kiu dala
Very good design Sandeep, this is perfect for tank crews, logistical truck drivers, helicopter crews and maybe even paratroopers. I am curious about how it handles recoil, retention of zero on an optic and possible gauntlet of elemental testing.
Also yaar there are a ton of NRIs living in America, please tell INSAS to make a civilian legal version for the American market and get it imported through companies like century arms etc for sale. For the American market 5.56 is a popular caliber and most people prefer STANAG mags so if you guys can manage to pull that off and reveal it at shot show or something it would be amazing.
@@citadelchase8858 babu ni manega..
Please don't waste your time advocating for weapons which are not fit for our brave soldiers. INSAS was a total failure. It has cost many precious and brave lives during the Kargil war. For yoir reference, you can ask the COBRA of the CRPF why they prefer old AK series rifles to INSAS in maoist ingested areas.
As an American who typically prefers the AR platform, now having seen this, I cannot tell you how badly I want one of these bad boys. This looks to be the best attempt at a bullpup Kalashnikov I've ever seen in my life. And yes, I know the INSAS isn't a true Kalashnikov, but it's close enough.
AKM+FNFAL
do you know anything about the ots-14 groza?
I have a photograph of INSAS bullup from 15 years ago. I remember the discussion taking place when Tavors were introduced in the Indian Army in late 2000s.
I've been admiring INSAS for approach, recoil, lethality but not for how it's made. It's the most potent upgrade and we're using/treating guns as platform for weapons not just rifle to LMG but beyond.
Appreciating Col. Bansod and all defense institutions....👍👍
Col Bansod is a genius.
no question about it
he's a lazy copycat who followed the homework of dozens of other people who have turned AK rifles into bullpups
@@crunchybones2528 for over 20 years this has been around.
@@crunchybones2528 INSAS is internally an AK Derived rifle with a G-3 derived charging handle. It's bound to look similar so what's the issue ?
@@patriotenfield3276 It's a bullpup AK. It's existed long before some indian army officer decided to copy it. I don't know why this man speaking is so mesmerized by a copy cat.
Please tell the designer that the front iron sight is the wrong way around. He has made that mistake on a number of times. Another thing is please ask him to stop using "sight mark" and airsoft optics.
And, ideally, to stop designing terrible guns.
@@skepticalbadgerbut his Guns are now In Service of Army tho beating Foreign competition
EXACTLY - they should open the other way around !!!
Aagaya DFI ka 14
Well these are prototypes....there'll improvisation i guess.
Indian internet is insider information starved and you sir are one of the few people with lots of this treasure trove insider content. Please bless the indian internet space regularly🙏
Great job by Col Bansod! Hopefully this will enter service too!
The INSAS rifle never had a problem with how the weapon performed overall ,the problem has always been with manufacturing quality and the materials used , like the cracking of the plastic magazine , jamming etc .
because the designs and working mechanisms are exactly taken from the AK 47, and the bullpup configuration of the ak 47 also known as groza in video games is just as amazing as the bllupup insas,.!
The original INSAS was never a reliable weapon. The jamming due to spring was very frequent. In every magazine a round was getting stuck which proves to be very dangerous in CQB.
"INSAS rifle never had a problem". That crap jammed more than any AK platform Indian army uses. It doesn't even compete with G3 platforms or the M4 ones or even the bushmaster. That gun is at best a mediocre one but a lot of people wont say that cuz of the nationalistic sentiment.
@@followthegood1 it is just a bad design, period. Bad ergonomics, poor reliability due to several factors - including the quality of materials. It is pretty high maintenace too - unless it is absolutely clean, it will have hiccups. In battle- where the weapon might not be cleaned for several days - these issues are likely to be compounded (and they did, in Kargil).
INSAS is not a CQB weapon.
Replace those sights immediately.
A decent set of sights to use is Yankee Hill Front and rear iron sights set. Your front sight is backwards.
As a left handed bullpup owner I highly recommend you add a 7 mm long U-shaped Chute style cover of steel over the ejection port to drop the shell casing downward after ejection. Pad the cover with a hard matte plastic like Delrin and it will be a sufficient cheek to stock weld for both sides left or right, allowing ambidextrous operation which is a critical issue with bullpups.
Never seen it before... ergonomically looks impressive.....
Came across this weapon a few years back on twitter. Could have been a cool indigenous CQB weapon
Brilliant & compact design!
Well done, India 🇮🇳
Correction: Bullpup doesn't mean a "chopped" barrel. The USP of a Bullpup is that you can shorten the overall weapon length while maintaining the barrel length almost the same - it comes at the cost of trigger mechanics though. Almost all bullpups have relatively bad triggers (owing to the long levers/linkages required to connect the sear to the trigger proper)
Also, a bullpupped AK isn't exactly a brand new idea, for example: Ukraine adopted their bullpup AK "Malyuk" (AKA "Vulcan-M") in 2017, with development of this weapon beginning way back in 2005 by Interproinvest (IPI)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malyuk
The design is just amazing
Incredible approach by Colonel Bansod
Good to see this weapon and if this bullpup insas is able to successfully complete all user(Indian armed forces) trials we might be able to convert almost all insas currently in service into this carbine varient which will save our huge money...
converting even a fraction of in-service INSAS will be good for many CAPFs/ police units who might not need a full-scale assault rifle
No way that is going to be ambidextrous. that ejection port is right beside your cheek!
is that Groza combined with MP7?
These designs should be open to Indian public .
Gun looks cool.hope it clear army trials. Potantial looks huge
its 2020's video
How do you know 😂?? Banshod sir gun is going to induct in army in recent procurement of ASMI@@debanjanpaul
@@helloneet321 first of all its not asmi .....
And for your kind information Sandeep sir himself posted this rifle in 11th feb 2020 go and check in x you dumb
@@helloneet321ASMI fires 9mm pistol rounds, this on the other hand fires 5.56x45 rounds..u r comparing a bullpup carbine with a submachine gun.
@@sachair2701 misunderstanding...i said banshod sir recently reveal his gun in mainstream media so that its impossible to capture that video in 2020
Now this insas looks really good well done indian army indian air force and tank crew can also use this insas
Sandeep Ji, you are really a lucky guy to get your hands on these weapons. Loved the overall length (600 mm), really loved the flip sights, the colour is beautiful and the charging handle is an improvement. I don't know why but BullPups are not given much importance anymore. In the end it is good to see Indian soldiers innovating.
It looks like the SA-80 Assault rifle of the Royal British Army, which similar to our INSAS, it too has a troubled past.
yes- that's the first thought which struck me when I saw it
@@SandeepUnnithanHello Sandeep sir, much appreciate your response and interaction with the subscribers.
I'm Bharath from Bangalore, and I'd like to meet up for a coffee when you're in Bangalore.
Wow, it look great... lot of great design r coming forward.. good positive signs for Indian arms manufacturing. All the best ❤
seen a lot of guns , but still AK with telescope is everyone's favourite
Love the video
thank you
Now that gun got some sexy in it sunglasses suit and tie ear piece with that gun that man deserves a raise
Haha. I wish it goes into production. I love your channel!!😁
IOF is sure to screw it up when this goes in production!
Le Indian Army: ' Bahut chhota hai, Mars par nahi chalega ' 😏
haha
@@SandeepUnnithan
Sir, Do you know the current status of CQB tender? And is Insas Bullpup part of the tender in it's latest avatar ?
@@maximilian9454 still in trial stage- its one of the world's largest small arms buys- nearly half a million weapons (4.25 lakh). INSAS Bullpup didn't get past the prototype stage.
@@SandeepUnnithan
Thanks Sir for the update 🙏
isnt thats the point of making bullpups ?
Wow ! Never expected that.. 🙂
❤
Enough with the insas now it has failed miserably in all aspects
The design is not new. There were several bullpup versions of the AK before. Mind you, the Insas was based on the AK receiver chambered for 5.56 nato rounds.
Welcome back to sir kaafi time baad dikhe aap kaha the itne dino
thank you
Looks remarkably like the AK bullpup kits that were widely available 10 to15 years ago
Love the design its compact and great for cqb and the other thing if they can retro fit change the barrel to the standard ar barrel length for longer range accuracy like the steyr aug, which can change according to the requirement need depending on the mission.👍🏼
INSAS already had a bullpup version i guess, but it was just INSAS with magazine in rear.
Modified ak receiver with bullpup configuration good one but with just 10 inch barrel it would only be suitable of cqc not in open field combat where range of average an firefight can be be between 200 to 800 m so i hope the drdo would make like a 16 or 20 inch free float barrel version also they should be in conversion kits only so that all the old insas rifles can be retrofitted to this configuration to save tooling cost and logistics
perfect for home defence
It can fire 600 rounds per min. With 30 round mag. 300 m range 5.56 cal . Max fire 16 mag continuously .ie 480 rounds continuously . Do you really need this fir home defence ??????
@@drshaileshkumar3361 you obviously didn't get the pun.
@@drshaileshkumar3361 yes
It looks like an adaptation of the ZenitCo Kochevnik bullpup kit for AK series rifles.
This is Great...
Very nice gadget, colonel bansod.
I used to use bullup in Counterstrike.
Lt. Colonel Prasad Bansod our very own LT general Mikhail T. Kalashnikov. ✌️👍🚩
without a doubt he is
Its a beauty
You should import the parts for conversions in the US
good idea
Respect to the Presenter.....
Original INSAS is highly inefficient model, heavy, accuracy issues, not all weather weapon like AK 47/ AK 56/AK 203
Almost half of our soldiers in Kargil war used this useless weapon against M16s by Pak
The look of Bull pup is good but again, it may have to be tested
How was the trigger pull? squishy or crisp break? This could be great platform in multible calibres as well.
I am not an engineer but I can clearly see the case ejection area is very much close to the shooter eye relief. the shooter will have to close eye for safety from the spark/flash produced from case ejection area.
It looks Amazing and the way U handled it tells us About it's ergonomics.
Now only thing that I worry is about it's reliability and Recoil.❤
(Although iam dead sure Army will take 10 year to Test it on Moon then Mars.)
i think this is a decent option which Indian army should look at and also suggest improvements if required, ultimately this is an Indian product and should be promoted more than western counterparts.
I still think INSAS got a bad reputation because of poor handling and maintenance on part of users. I would love to import whatever quantities India wished to surplus.
30rd mags... Finally!
And 50rd extended mags? Yes please
yep
@@SandeepUnnithan ive always wanted to ask you this
What is your job? Firearm testing at something??
50 rounds won’t be accepted by the army because then they have to change the magazine pouches for every single soldier. 30 round magazine will be more practical and the 50 might be issued to soldiers in static positions.
Wow very nice invention brother
Now Army officers are shining where DRDO failed for decades. Do not know about performance, but the looks of these guns designed by officer are unique and good.
aside from sweeping the cameraman -- bullpup aks have been around for quite a while -- there is no need for a redesign
I have seen this gun 4 maybe 5 years ago.
This is best thing to happen in india the gun is made very nicely it can be caliberted for CQB if possible please try to make it in a long gun with a good hybrid red dot sight or a scope for long range engagement ang under barrel granade lunche would do wonders for the army or it can be personal weapon of the tank crews or the pilots
Looks like a simple AK with a bullpup kit.
Looks lighter and handier than the Tavor TAR. If quality of manufacturing can be upto international standards, it will be a superb assault rifle for the paramilitary forces.
Did the vertical foregrip attached backward??
Insas is such a weapon that is hated by our soldiers.
Though it's range was good but kill probability was very very lesser. Even SLR is much better. To be very honest, Insas was like a toy gun.
just curious...what field of engineering deals with yk...making weapons and stuff...prolly mechanical??
Beautiful weapon
Couldn't locate the firing selector around the trigger. Where could it be? And is the charging handle reciprocative?
West Virginians, hick, hillbillies and generally people in the south of United States already love the insas.
Bro what u talking about....have u seen INSAS there in US.
@@vickyyadav5723 oh there is plenty of insas in US
Cool design... look like IWI tavor
it looks very similar to a PDR carbine.. but looks very cool
Bansod (sounds like a gali coming from a Punjabi with a stutter!) seems to be a good jugaad master! He took the worthless 5.56 NATO piece of Xh1t weapon that the army hated and converted it to something useful. Good job, Bansod!
Excellent, should be given to private players for manufacturing and further development.CCS should approve this beauty ASAP.
Awesome ❤
Did they ever iron out the bugs with the production quality? Or is it still pretty bad?
I hope they got it fixed as it is a really neat rifle.
What are the merits of bulpup rifles over standard ar 15/ak rifles pls tell someone?
The genius inventor forgot the selector. Good work! Also, the INSAS is just a poorly made AK, and AK bullpup conversion exists since the early 1990s (Norinco Type 86S, Vector CR-21...).
I think it's quite clear that Indian Govt needs a program through which Retd. Indian Officers & Soldiers especially from Technical-Branches are given lateral entry into AEWIL & other Defence PSUs to create a realistic connect b/w Military & defence PSUs.
Unlike USA, India lacks a civilian firearms culture & hence it's a tall order to expect that AEWIL deisgners will be able to develop modern weapons.
We have clearly seen ARDE & AEWIL haven't been able to produce a single Modern rifle till now, the best these organizations can do is manufacture foreign weapons under licence.
AMAZING🤩
This gun exactly look like an Ak Bullpup made few years ago in Russia.. Which isn't frequently used by the Russian military
The iron sight looks similar to the iron sight of MP7
Except the front iron sight which is folded in a wrong direction
Impressive ❤
Show us on range test...reliability torture test too. While firing lots of rounds
So...whats next ???
Almost every major bullpup user in the world have dumped the bullpup design for a more conventional option, for eg France, China, New Zealand , UK. a bullpup which are not designed from the ground up are even more horrible, as always we are always behing the curve.
It's not for infantry. It's a carbine, for CQB operations and user will be like RR, special forces, NSG.
In video Mr unnithan clearly explained the purpose of the weapon. And Israeli bullpups are still in action.
But how do u bring in higher calibres in CQBs without getting compromised at the corners- nothing beats bullpups in urban warfare
For ur knwlge tavor is in service with indian armed and police forces for a long time.
TAR,is being used extensively by Israilies & Indian special forces extensively
The acquisition of tavor by the SOF was also very questionable. The thing is 4-5 MOA rifle and inaccurate beyond 300 metres. That's why they still use m4's when they need range.
X95 is surely a far better weapon and MARCOS have already adopted them but army being army confused and delayed acquisition as always.
Kochevnik Zenitco called, they want their stuff back.
This would qualify as a sub machine gun than a rigle rihht?
Firstly…a bull pub reduces the overall length of the rifle but doesn’t necessarily reduces the length of the barrel or its range.secondly…where is the red dot sights which were initially launched with zittra?
It's good to see such innovations, but if the Govt is more willing there are lots of civilians with talents which unfortunately could not be promoted because of the sensitive nature
Is ka idea aap ko kahase mila?.Insas bullpup 2021 mein mene compleat Kiya tha par me koi officer nahi tha, aur muche suport karne vala koi nahi tha.
Nice
A bullpup in lighter calibers is passable but in the. 308 it is not recommended. It's muzzle jump is simply uncontrollable, it's muzzle flash is very pronounced, the rate of twist of an 8 inch barrel is not meant for this cartridge. It's use is limited to short range use which can be fulfilled better by other lighter calibers. This is only an impractical weapon decorated with external furniture to impress the ignorant.
the design is old .and since it is for cqb it must have bolt release on both side. cause in cqb you have to change the hands some time.
DRDO must be playing a lot of BGMI 😂
Seriously a Indian version "GROZA" now ?
Nice Video 👍
and here I thought the INSAS couldnt get worse
Full function and desgin of tavor( isarel)
Brilliant.
Bro that is literally the FLATLINE from APEX LEGENDS
If it has used the same old insas mechanism then it might again jam in battlefield 😢
Your front sight is on backwards.
Reminds me of that US officer who shoots with opposite scope
Sir I need to meet Col Bansod Sir.... Is it possible
So its a bull pop ak.. you know those have existed for a while now right? I mean good on you for having your own design, even reverse engineering an existing design is really hard work.