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Why did India Dump the Indigenously made INSAS Rifle??
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- Опубліковано 12 бер 2021
- The INSAS rifle was the pride of the Indian armed forces for decades. But on June 2017 the decision was made by the Govt of India to import foreign made rifles to replace INSAS, but why was decision??
Correction: Kargil war took place in 1999.
Information: STEYR AUG is basically a Austrian Rifle, But the one used for copying in India is made at Steyr Mannlicher, Thales Australia, Lithgow Facility.
SIG SAUER originated in Germany, but India buys these weapons from SIG SAUER,INC,USA.
Ah yes the INSAS, the only mass produced modern service rifle that harms the shooter more then his target.
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Lol
It was effective during the 90s
Now its a total POS gun
What were some of the problems with it?
Well india has plenty of people not a problem
"Thoda durr se maro to Kutta v nahi marta"
An army man once told me about insas.. Soldiers really hated it..
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Yes bro, the main issue with INSAS was it's capabilities were of injuring the enemy, not killing. On the other hand intruders are always equipped with modern weapons.
@@ishandutt707 Exactly, enemies got their latest upgraded heavy and medium arms like MP5,Aks, and many more American-European made it weapons according to their missions Which gains them a big strategic advantage in downing the opponent in single burst if it hits it target, while our soldiers almost had to dealt with no more than a heavy gun toy..
@@ishandutt707 sick of India's policy of injuring rather than killing the enemy. Our human rights princoples are sickening. Extreme democracy and human rights are the biggest problem of India. Equally bad are the courts!
Lol
Don’t know about all PSU s but have friend working as a technician in HVF Avadi , earns 40 k , goes to work , drinks and sleeps there , works probably 2/3 hrs a week . That’s the situation
And people gets angry when Dassault refused to build their Rafale aircrafts by HAL, another inefficient PSU.
@Wuhan Fried Bats Considering this its miracle that ISRO became a leading space agency in the world.
The main problem in defence PSUs is monopoly. Even in Communist USSR, there was competition between different design bureaus like MIG, Sukhoi,Antonov, Beriyev, Yokolev to submit their designs to the Govt which brings the best in them but in India for aircraft design there is just HAL.
There is a lack of intiative from every part. For example we are assembling Tatra trucks in India for a long time, but still now its LHD. No one in the BHEL came forward and said...Hey India is a RHD country, why dont we shift the steering to the right aide just like other trucks.
@@divinewind6313 obviously it should because it's only psu with 30-40% scientists and not whole labour who completes given tasks , scientists make Thier own tasks
@@ClashWithArthur Not only that for ISRO its under the direct supervision of PM and they have to succeed bcs space technology is not something that you can buy in open market. Guns , rockets and planes there are alternate suppliers.
@@divinewind6313 exactly
You don't have to try to sound like a British bro... chill.
Proceeds to pronounce concerns as Conzernz! 😂
There's some American in there too. 🙄
Aatmo nirvar varot😂
Lol 😂
He is perfect in the way he is pronouncing....if u can't speak like this don't feel inferior and comment negative .
Because it was indian made ordanance factory....They work 20 years to made a rifle..they work 35years to make fighter jet...they want full payment but will work for 1hr out of exactly 8hours...so then what will be the output...🙏🙏
Exactly...
If the Contract was given to a private company like Tata,the Situation would've been way different
AIR India private ho gaya 😂👏
Fantastic statement
When you realise that the narrator is actually Indian.
Its TTS (Text to Speech)
@@arpanabinaswar1811 oh so the TTS sounds like Indian?
@@randomstories7609 yeah There are more than 1000 types of Voice available
For example that U.S Military news channel and Some Geographic channels have same TTS
@@arpanabinaswar1811 it's not tts
@@exurgemars its definitely is
Solution, let private companies compete
The main problem of INSAS is that its made by a PSU. If it was made by a pvt company they would have atleast tried to correct the mistakes unlike PSUs who has no such mentality.
OFB kamchor company hai
@@devashishmandavi3866 Please don't paint and oversimplify things. Doesn't help. Koi pet se kaamchor nahin hota hai.
PSUs face no competition so, they do nothing to improve themselves.
@@Homeland81 correct. If it was made by a private company, they have a little fear about other companies so if they want to still have their guns stay in service they need good quality and price
Lol
OFB is not a PSU.
And not even 1 Indian pvt sector has been able to make a single rifle. All are licensed produced Foreign OEM rifles
The INSAS is a bastardised and cheap version of the AKM/47. The polymer handles make it look very plasticky and cheap 🤮🤢
Polymer handles make it lighter by 2 kgs atleast which will help carrying it easier by the armyman walking on high ridges and mountains carrrying baggage of another 7 kgs.
No, it is a cheap version of L1A1 SLR but 3 round burst added.
Where did u know this baby
The issue with INSAS was the barrel. The barrel used to overheat. ...and OFB couldn't create one with the level of metallurgy needed. Now, the technology is there and hopefully, will be tested soon.
Better get rid of OFBs, privatize them, and then they will change.
OFBs are a headache for the nation
Friends, whether Steyr AUG is Austrian or Australian and whether SIG SAUER is German or American....has been explained in the Video description. Please read before commenting.
I assumed as much.
Belgian company FN also has its American subsidiary
The FN Manufacturing LLC plant in Columbia, South Carolina, which is part of the military division of FN.
It's your pronunciation that is causing the confusion for the former. Anyone who is into guns will know that the Steyr AUG is Austrian. The way you pronounced indigenous literally sounded like you were trying to say ingenious.
To sum up the weapon - " Na akal, na shakal "
Oh come on. You haven't seen it how it really is better than pak.Gewher and Chinese qbz. It's firing rate is low compared to gewhr but better in accuracy.
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@@jithinjohn7240 nah bro my father was in army in Gorkha rifle 1/1Gr served 26 years in military. He told that many time Insas rifle jam and have to clear the vessel of gun time to time in battlefield.( My father also fighted in Kargil war) But good news is that before retiring many advanced weapon are being introduced and soldier are currently training how to use them.
@@hagensensei6795 This is good. I wish like we chose a mobile phone, our soldiers got a choice to select a weapon system than a direct issue.
Ask any top Indian company like L&T, Mahindra, Tata, Reliance to design and make an assault rifle and we will become a net exporter. Has anyone thought why the world's largest tractor maker (Mahindra) was not asked to look into tanks? Our PSUs have not been able to make us independent in 75 years. It's time to give up dreaming about them.
Sadly, PSUs = Votes. No politics party would dare to do that :/
@@ankeshnand Well, BJP sure is *trying* to do that .
Its not as much psu’s fault as it is of political will…. Be it in congress or bjp regime
the barrel is weak a result of mass production with a poor quality control
@@undercutsoul898
Well said mate
I must admit, that as a relatively disinterested outsider, that it's a bit surprising that what was basically an AK-pattern rifle that is not too disimilar to rifles successfully manufactured in other, less technologically advanced countries than India, was apparently a flop.
Its a quality control issue and they modified the mechanism too ... basically they butchered the design and quality control was non existant then ..
I know right? Back in the day the Chinese and Vietnamese were making guns in garages and jungles with files and hacksaws and barely any knowledge of how the guns worked. Yet somehow with modern manufacturing equipment and CAD, India can’t make a relatively simple rifle. Dozens of former Com Bloc and third world countries have the capability to make an AK style rifle. I feel like this goes a lot deeper than simple lack of quality control and there’s massive corruption considering the money they had to have dumped into this bottomless pit.
I emailed the ordinance factory mentioning the defects and how to improve. But, they closed the official email. Helpless egoist company ✍️
Hhaa fool thats a govt organisation...
@@jyothinbivisJujus you are better fool for calling an unknown person. I am concerned as INSAS in adopted by state police forces. Anyway, I will do my best.
Bro am working with it for 10 years... will u please tell me about the defects u noticed...
How do I know that you are working in Ordinance Company/INSAS manufacturing company ? Don't hullucinate. Ordidanc is an Indian Manufacturing company which India engages and buy certain equipment and supplies. Don't bluff. I am a physics professor at Manipur International University.
U r the main bluffmaster bro... can u tell me atleast one defect.. tum ek physics professor joh ordnance aur ordinance ka meaning bhi nahi pataa hai... jao game khelo fooool
As an American I find it very odd that India has been building at least a proportion of it's combat aircraft for many decades, but have difficulty building a decent rifle. Maybe they should lure away some good American and European gun designers.. If I were a gun designer I wouldn't mind living in India for a few years, if only for your excellent cuisine!
The design was not the problem. I have met people who tested the initial prototypes and they said it was good. The problem was manufacturing. The whole production set up was substandard and the metallurgy required could not be scaled up. Even then, the rifle rendered good service for about two decades and is being phased out now as we speak.
They should actually get more Israeli and Russian gun designers on board. American weapons are good, but you need something less expensive for the Indian armed forces.
And Mikhail Kalashnikov was furious when inspected this rifle at a gunshow in Pragati maidan Copied without licence.
The Steyr AUG is Austrian. Not Australian.
The SLR won 2 wars and many border flare ups-carried by 6 foot Jats and 5 foot Gurkhas.
Magazine was made by people who only had experience making plastic buckets.
The Sauer is as heavy as the SLR, which you bad mouth with blithe insouciance.
And ,the Sauer has found to malfunction with shoddily made IOFB ammo. Do some homework, before making click bait trash
It's main problem was jamming of magazine while firing and you can even imagine how it is for a soilder on a battlefield with magazine jamming.
The compenant most likely to go to shit when new systems are developed.
If they just licensed 5.56 and use stanag itd probrably be a decent rifle.
It wasn't the weapon of choice, but one of compromise..It gets jammed after firing 5-6 rounds. If it falls of your shoulder, it can begin firing. The rounds are too small to kill a man, causing return fire and casualties of our jawans..It should've been replaced 20 yrs ago, but sadly the decision makers don't die in battlefield.
To be fair, a weapon that heavily injures and not kills is a better weapon in a war. Injured soldiers need help and thus keep the enemy busy. Dead soldiers are simply ignored. There is a reason why snipers shoot to injure and not to kill.
@@SolomonSunder thats a myth. injuring a member of a squad can make that squad fight harder, instead of decreasing morale. in reality snipers and weapons have little choice whether to injure to kill, going for the better shot.
@@SolomonSunder That is false
@@SolomonSunder I don't know where you get the idea that snipers shoot to wound, but that is patently false. They aim center mass to increase the chance that they hit something and that the hit is fatal. Whether the person takes a fatal wound or not that is still a casualty that has to be taken care of. Its pretty rare for someone to die instantly from being shot, so soldiers are going to try and help that person in case they can still be saved.
"The rounds are too small .." If you mean the calibre (5.56 mm) it's also a standard and particularly with the latest cartridges.
Whoever designed the insas have never really even fired a weapon. A gun is a man's best friend, it has to be reliable, durable, rugged, and cool looking at the same time. Those who designed the gun ought to be fired, it's incompetence at its best. They insulted the term "research" as well. I can do a much better job in my sleep.
🙄so how many insas's have you developed till now?
@@Chimera_0990tfr look, I own more guns than your little brain can count. I have fired more guns than your breath in this pathetic lifetime of yours. Given a contract and amenities I can definitely design and built a much better gun than that scrap you call insas.
'and cool looking at the same time.' What are you, 12? There is no, I repeat NO concession made towards aesthetics when designing a military firearm. You think they include that kind of thing in the specification?
"Oh, yeah, it must look 🆒 as well." 🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣
Agreed...the beauracracy is killing....
@@burlatsdemontaigne6147 COOL, RUGGED, whatever you call it. A gun has to have its own appeal. A language only a gun lover can understand, not for wuss like you.
My father once told me that if you have insas then terrorist will not even run away from you in Kashmir... AKs best
Fact: when the insus rifle really falls into the hands of the Enemy or the smugglers, it is easy to modify,assemble and maybe due to its familiarity.
That's as far from the truth as it can be.
Really the government is not keen on helping private Indian companies which produce some of the best quality small arms because of their fear on capitalism
Well They don't meet military standards !
And i am talking about indian companies !
What are you talking about? INSAS are one of the worst gun out there
@@KGB223 insas couldn't satisfy the requirements but other private companies are doing their best, don't judge a book by it's cover, just wait and see
@मर्द मराठा lol 😂 it was displayed on 4th of February 2020 at lucknow, not in 2018.
wht a joke, govmt is buying wasp/ armored cars/ howitzers / ship/ from private firm and u r saying govmnt is afraid of capitalism ,
We couldn't make a single rifle and buy all American and Russian weapons but still do chest thumping and say Bharat maata ki Jai.
Its hard to design weapons without other companies striking you for copyright claim
Who cares if we are buying or producing it. We have the weapons
Atleast we have weapons to say bharat matha ki jai... It's much better to than having nothing
Ha to tu bana de na. Itna hi asan he to. Always remember when spewing crap that we are doing far better than countries the got independence around the same time as us. DRDO and Armed forced won multiple wars with whatever we had so don't look down upon our armed forces, they are more than capable to defeat forces with whatever we have on hand. Also ever heard of patents and why you can't just copy existing gun design ? It's plenty easy for a jobless person to say shit behind a screen, but in reality it's hard to reproduce results. You could partly blame due to socialist structure of India and that's why no real innovation occurred during most of our time during independence, a private sector authorization for manufacturing of weapons and artillery would solve many problems.
@@swarnavasamanta2628 but still people of the country are so designed over the year to oppose privatisation which will solve most of defence issues. But there are many who are still weeping on selling air India and other companies
Atmanirvar k chakkr mein we don't want loose our soldiers life. Quality 1st the rest should be secondary.
INSAS came into service in 1998, and used in 1999 Kargil war, this vdo is about INSAS, why it is failure and why it was dumped, not on Athmanirbhar, plz see the vdo again, when something comes up and fails under Athmanirbhar, we can start roasting Modi, for this vdo leave him out of this
@@anoopnair233 The videomaker surely didn't leave him out of his video...
@Krishnamohan Reddy He was only talking facts. Why do you have to bring phrases like "Modi bhakt" into the discussion? Are people expected to criticize Modi every time to show that they are not Modi bhakt?
@Krishnamohan Reddy All that was achieved at snail's pace when hundred times more could have been achieved. In any case, at least Modi has set the agenda for self reliant India. Leaders before Modi never had thought of such a concept in their wildest dreams. They were busy appeasing minorities.
@Krishnamohan Reddy Calling me a modi bhakt is equivalent to me calling you anti national. Many things have improved under Modi. Look at the data which says that the ease of doing business has improved by leaps and bounds under Modi. You obviously is a sycophant of the Gandhi-Nehru dynasty under whose rule the derogatory term "Hindu rate of growth" became famous.
I rather take an airsoft gun to war than this gun.
@Darth childish brain? lol do u even know how bad INSAS rifles performs? Our army needs to throw away these post WW2 rifle.
On INSAS RIFLE !
Soldiers: क्या बवासीर है यह । साला जब चलता है तो पूरा हाथ झनझना जाता है
Sahi pakdey Hain😎
😂😂😂
maarte hain kasai jata hain calcutta
Firing kiya hai kyaa zindagi mein...
India produces millions of engineers and designers every year, still our arm weapons have a silly designs and not Attrective.
Because of reservation, the deserving candidates don't get the right position
Insas rifles should be given to state police, which are discarded by Army.
Good suggestion
Yes it is given.
You can't give low quality guns to the state police
@@nayanmipun6784 they never even use😂😂
@@kinggenji4249 incorrect, police has the same work as the army, this is like saying that air force should be given insas
India has reached upto mars. Whole world's medias were shocked by seeing the India's launching 104 satellites in a single shot..On the other hand, India cannot design world class small arms system. A country like Myanmar, Nepal and other under developed countries use world class weapons.In India, State police and other security guards in industries still use 2nd world war Era bolt action rifle 303😂.Aur bolta hai BHARAT MAHAN HAI.
Yes, we are still using
World war2 rifles, helmets
Up police replaced 303 with SLR 😂
@@Neverbelieveonrussia Think where India's position is, not U.P.
Na na pure scientist are definitely talented!
Problem is
Low r&d allocations
Import lobby to obtain commission .
@@alisemongzar4397 everywhere our police rifle is replaced bro
This is why civil service aspirants are working hard
My cousin is in army and he told that this gun always jams when he need it
Thanks to DRDO and ordnance factories, even after spending thousand of crores we have a sub standard rifle. Jai ho
Just civil services things sir ji.
They are the pioneers of average to lower than average performance and delivery.
Lack of private sector and no competition has lead to such results. DRDO is capable but with no competition they just cut corners.
On paper it was brilliant in concept it was good then for production it was given to the legendary ofb and they shat like there is no tommorow 😁
@@an1ketsharma unfortunately we have to fight with what we have and civil services care a damn
@@aayaatable DRDO, the less said the better about them, i have given up
Give INSAS to Nagaland Armies we'll used for Shooting Targets
Airgun laga bodli.
Anorher problem of ISAS is that accuracy sucks it seems...dats wat one of my friend told who is posted in kashmir...so airgun hi bhal hobo naki..hehe😁😁
Interesting how institutionalized corruption was such a huge factor in the development of the INSAS. The same was also a huge factor in the US in the 1960's, when the M16/AR15 series of rifles was developed. Poor ammunition (using a ball powder that had too much calcium carbonate in it and caused a lot of fouling) along with poor maintenance and not supplying essential cleaning kits led to thousands of deaths among American servicemen in Vietnam. Some evidence seems to indicate that bureaucrats in the US defense establishment tried to sabotage the M16 by allowing these deficiencies. However, the US military along with the private sector did eventually get their act together and today the AR15 series of rifles is among the world's most reliable and accurate (and it is the rifle that perhaps has had the best combination of those two attributes for over 4 decades now).
I find it interesting that the Indian Army chose the 5.56 mm NATO round as the round of choice for the INSAS. Why not the 5.45x39 used by the Russians, especially since India has purchased so many arms and ammunition from Russia? Perhaps they felt that ammunition might be more readily obtained from NATO countries? And why then, given the 5.56 mm choice, did the Indian Army not choose to design the INSAS to use and be compatible with 5.56 mm NATO standard magazines, such as are used worldwide in AR15/M16/M4 rifles and other rifles (such as the HK416, SCAR, Tavor, etc.)? That way the INSAS could have used USGI aluminum magazines, Magpul Pmags, Lancers, or one of the many other huge varieties of 5.56 mm NATO magazines that are available. Having such versatility might have mitigated some of the issues the Indian Army had with magazine failure in cold weather and high altitude shooting.
the magazine point is spot on. most malfunctioning in rifles starts with the magazines. Its odd for India to build the INSAS to use 5.56 but not be compatible with STANTAG type magazines. INSAS is interesting since its an AK type designe with a FAL type caring handle shooting NATO 5.56 rounds from a purely Indian magazine.
The INSAS is poorly made and not comprehensively designed. India would have been better off just importing AKMs.
Sir me Indian army me lance naik ho...haa sahi bola INSUS acha rifle nehi he...jam ho jata he, magazine jab jameen par girta he loaded hokar to magazine toot jata he, cock karke jab aim karke fire karte he tab oil akh par ajata he,high altitude me to aur bhi problem he
Sir aap sach me Army me ho Lance Naik?
Why u are exposing ur identity? Don't u know it is an offence.
@@tanishsalunkechannel9897 pata chalna hi chhaiye sabko
How did passed the test and allowed to mass produced in War when it has so many Basic issues ?
@@Alikhan-ci7mm the government that time was too corrupt, the govt of now is modernizing forces with best quality modern weapons and equipments.
It's best for Indian to buy rifels from outside.. Since we don't have the experience yet.. And atmanirbhar bharat scheme is a totally different thing..
Licensed manufacturing should be a learning tool to gain experience. In the meantime, critical areas of operations need the weapons directly delivered after purchase.
its still atmanairbhar bharat cause those AK- 203 are goung to be manufactured in Amethi U.P.
@Ahmed Baloch in Pakistan guns are legal so everyone can get a gun. When that happens, learning how a gun works and making one isn't that hard
in India the fkin government has banned guns. Almost Nobody here other than armed personnel have ever touched a gun.
@@imperialenforcer2271 wrt guns... It is considered haram by the public... Such has the mentality been created by the government... Today also no pvt company can make guns caz of licence issues...
@@shubhamsinha4663 It's good that way, because, we have more morons in our country than others...India will be a war zone if guns were made legal
It's weird that the name "Excalibur" -- that of a mythical sword from King Arthur's time -- was chosen for the second version of the INSAS. A cutting weapon's name for a projectile weapon? A name from English mythology for an Indian designed weapon? Were there no suitable names from Indian mythology or from India's past? How would this foreign name be pronounced -- or more accurately, mis-pronounced by the local troops who would use it? Surely even a number (a la AK47 etc) would have been more user-friendly?
Lmao "user-friendly" is really ironic there. And what is there in the name that Indians loveeee so much? Always changing names as it it changes characters as well ✌️
2:48 just wanna say the Steyr AUG is used by Australia but it’s actually a Austrian made rifle so yeah
INSAS was really shitty but there are many other weapons now.. especially with SSS Defence, and now ASMI being an indigenous design and being manufactured by a private player within the country.
OFB, for sure, needs to get its standards high if it wants to stay alive. And staff needs to get out of its "Union" mentality.
OFB needs to revisit their strategy, work culture get their head office to where all its major buyers are.
M416 is best😂
If you can’t guarantee quality from your own plants, then outsourcing is probably the right call
we should not be asking modi. we should be asking ourselves, from 1980 to 2017 development and still we failed to create our own rifle.
Kashmir conflict is there since 1950s and still we did not test our rifles in himalayas, shows the pathetic engineering of DRDO.
It's the fault of the OFB, the manufacturing defects must be due to poor quality of control. And that was seized upon by import cartel in India.
Are state-owned enterprises always make bad quality products?
Good video. 1 minor mistake. Sig is a German company that does a lot of business in the USA for both the private market and military market here.
Slight update - SIG has a US subsidiary, and that may be who they contracted with. They make weapons in New Hampshire, USA.
The germans wouldnt give their guns to us anymore.
@@scottstewart5784 Not a subsidiary anymore....Sig Sauer Inc, in NH, USA, is the sole manufacturer of Sig firearms now. The Eckernförde factory of Sig Sauer Gmbh closed in Dec 2020.
Similarly Steyr is Austrian (country next to Germany) and not Australian.
No, they moved to the US completely a few years ago
These guns were made in state owned public factories where bureaucrats kept the quality of gun lower and corruption high. But today's youth just want to join government jobs.
Real question should be why did India try to manufacture rifles?
That's how our PSU's work!! No accountability, No responsibility but they will go on strike if government takes any step toward accountability. Pathetic.
With the kinds of issues brought up, and the number of manufacturers...
It sounds like the initial INSAS design was solid, but the individual manufacturing tolerances and QC/QA was a weak point. If that was shored up then manufacturing your own rifles would have made sense.
Why isn't there actually film OF the INSAS? I have seen alot of 7.62 cal AK's, a Bren gun LMG, even a Czech CZ58, but no one firing the INSAS?
The Mud test is an 7.62x39 cal. AK, not an INSAS!
"Clean the gas intake every 6 rounds else you'll experience a 'misfire'."
What kind of idiot would like that in a battlefield?
This is what happens when you provide substandard theory only education to people, low experience, low standard products and a shame from other countries just like the Indian coders are thought to be substandard by foreigners.
one factor the ak type rifles were designed for cases with a sharp taper the 5.56 nato round is nearly straight walled making extraction harder, also here in the states i have had the same problems with the polymer magazines dropped one on the ground when it was below freezing and the magazine cracked. i still with the metal magazines now.
You can’t compare all polymer mags to the ones used in the INSAS. The latest generation PMAGs made by Magpul are very reliable. The magazines used in INSAS are made of the same plastic used in furniture! So no wonder the magazines crack under simple stress
The Israelis had no problem making a reliable AK-type rifle in 7.62x51 and 5.56x45, and the South African variant ran from a polymer magazine. The current Polish infantry rifle is a 5.56 AK. The Yugoslavians had an AK-based DMR/sniper rifle in 8mm Mauser for decades. Even the Russians make AKs in chamberings like that for export and sporting use.
So the INSAS was tested in Kargil and Nepal on real soldiers ... if terrorists die , rifle is good , but if soldiers die , then only India realized to dump the rifle. .. what a scientific method !!
Ordnance factory will be privatised ,
Because Every Indian is aware of Sarkari kam .
Still hoping we can get parts kits for these imported to the US or an importer to bring rifles in. I seriously want to take a good look at one from the inside to see exactly what's so bad about it. I doubt I'd be able to fix whatever their problems are but I just wonder if this is a case of a rifle that's horrible for the conditions it's being pressed into, but otherwise is a generally serviceable rifle.
It's a rifle that does fine in hot conditions, but is a bit inferior at high altitudes and colder regions. Given enough r&d they could have ironed it out but the Indian mentality, especially of those UA-cam video creators and armchair soldiers who may not know a barrel from a butt is to throw out all innovation and buy a foreign made item. Some things did not change from the 80s.
Wonderful video , ur presentation is wonderful and the quality of the video clips are grt, how u get such wonderful clips can u share that info
They forgot to add cowdung into the insas rifle to lubricate their crappy rifle
INSAS.
That's why Terrorist has no fear on Indian Army.
Feel Very sad for Indian Army Holding INSAS against China during stand off.
Actually India was following the path of socialism and they never let any private company to produce arms and ammunitions but now they are done with that shit and moving towards capitalism and privatisation. People are saying india will the biggest economy with the highest GDP(ppp),one of the reason is privatisation.
Revisit & Relearn your history. How do you think the Belgian L1A1 (SLR) rifle came into India? By Aliens?? How were the Russian T-55's and T-72's procured? By Tribals in Antractica? How did the IAF get French Mysteres, British Hunters and Russian MiG-21's?? By KIng Kong? The reason to produce them in India was that the tech transfer would have to be made in India and the spares, in case of war, would be available in India or else these foreign companies would have dominated & controlled the pricing & the spares. Disaster in wartime. But based in India- They would employ thousands in the main factories and lakhs in the ancillary industries + we would get the experience & expertise to develop our own arms. So it's done with your shit you puked.
Don't be a Dumbtard and advertise it. Research before you shoot your ass for all to see.
@@deepconscious7741 genius ask Israelis then,why india purchases their 45% arms exports(incl guns). India never let their private players to get indulge in defence. Gov did some work with PSUs or with firms,gov having significant holdings. After 2019 gov gave a contract of making grenade to a private company. Gov took initiative only after 2019 by banning import of 100 defence items. Ask any army man if Gov of India has ever trusted any private company before. Get your facts right first dear.
@@Kilo_Wog Geni-Ass, listen, (if you can) understand the economy and level of industry in the 1950's, 60's, 70's and 80's. Whatever was procured was of those weapons that made better sense to buy outright than establish a plant, cost ~ benefit analysis. Those that were needed for a longer time and had regular demand was produced here, In India. Therefore, weapon systems like tanks, aircraft and rifles were made in India, while one-off purchases were made outright from the manufacturers. And there were hardly any private players in the 5 decades after independence to manufacture weapons - needs tons of $$ to make a weapon system. No one had that. Only since 1991, when the economy was liberalized, did it see any influx of pvt players. Did you ever go to school? And if you did, ever study Indian economy?? 5-Year plans !! Really??!!
@@deepconscious7741 - There is a small caveat in MoD that "mandates" Indian defence forces to have 50-80% of their purchases from MoD establishments. Let me give you an example, while even the HAL manufactured SU-30s have a higher cost and a higher unreliability than those we could straight away import cheaper and more reliable SU 30s, we are mandated to buy them via HAL which makes them 100 Cr more expensive.
Now that being said, HAL assembling them does allow us to perform repairs and have spares etc which would not be possible if we were just flying them in from Russia. This entire topic is in different shades of gray than black or white
Aur kuch log kehte hai ki inn sab company ka privatisation nahi karna chahiye
Hamare sainik faulty gun and ammunation chala ke aise hi mar jate hai
dushman ka kya jarurat jab desh hi aisa ho
Right bro
If you take a brightly orange-colored rifle to the war front, that's an easy giveaway and a big no-no. That was the main reason why it was replaced!
Nice research man, The Steyr Aug is the main infantry weapon from the Austrian military,. Many countries have also adapt this weapon., like Australia, German state police, USA, Ireland,... Steyr is the city in Uper-Austria where this and many other weapons are made.
Sig Sauer is German company locaded in Eckernförde.
the steyr AUG used for copying in India is made at Steyr Mannlicher
Thales Australia, Lithgow Facility, Yes it originated in Austria. Even Sig Sauer is from Germany, but India buys weapons from SIG SAUER,INC, USA. U got it now...
@@prudentiatech You weren't exactly wrong: the German Sig Sauer factory closed in 2020, and the American Sig Sauer was already largely independent.
1:23 Steyr AUG is an Austrian Product. Australia has only the license to produce AUGs.
You have to make a rifle to handle the most extreme conditions on Earth, it so happens India like the US has a Little Hell-on-Earth from every climate too! Good luck.
M really confused to see the hypocrisy of the people here. In todays world people are blaming govt that they are selling national to private companies and here in comment section they are saying promote private companies. Real hypocrisy, but even i believe private companies should also b indulged in many sectors along with PSU's.
A import always opens up the possibilities for middlemen like it happened in augusta and rafale .
We are designing good plane, but we are mess when designing a good rifle.
No we are not designing good planes, if you are taking about Tejas, most of its part and technologies are imported
@@blazingblack1850 The engine is imported GE F404 but the other things are not imported,
We developed our own AESA. It shall be carrying an imported WVRAAM and Astra for BVRAAM more than 60% of Tejas components are INDIAN,
Or there are only 50 pilots who know the full fuck-ups of Tejas while there are 1000s of soldiers who have experienced the fuck-ups of INSAS. Maybe when there are 3 squadrons of Tejas, skeletons will tumble out. Anyways Tejas has most of its components imported
@@sachinmesta4238 currently we are using Isreali made radar system & avionics ... Very bad condition
@@mudsy2205by cost, 60% or tejas mk1 are Indian components and it would only increase in future varients. Till date, not a single tejas mk1 has crashed in thousands of hours of flight. Equip it with an aesa radar and bvr air to air missiles and it would become the best interceptor in our inventory due to its small rcs
Insas was the reason Why Nepali Army lost lot of soldiers during Insurgency with Maoists in PILI, Nepal. Magazine was made out of plastic which broke down and let to disaster. India should take responsibility of those death as Nepali Army was trying to Buy weapon from USA but India intervene due to 1950 treaty hence their Insas was new and they wanted someone to buy therefore they offered Nepali Army In very discounted rate then others. Sad
Do they still use insas rifle?
People in the comments section are forgetting the roots of gunsmithing.. guys you need to understnd that gunsmithing was never prevelant in India until 1940s .. even then the guns made in india were really just copies of british/austrian guns .. India as a country did not participate in any war that required mass production of guns / vehicles etc.. that is the reason why india is not the country you should be looking forward for pushing out revolutionary guns .. obv this doesnt mean that we should make horrible weapons but you have to realise what countries like russia went through before the AK was made .. or what US troops went thru before M16 was developed.. there will always be a better gun ... i actually support that India is buying AK-200 from russia since it is a top of the line assault rifle..
The SLR and INSAS have a difference of only 350gm when unloaded. How is the SLR THAT heavier?
Its heavier coz of the caliber. One loaded mag of slr is almost equal to two insas mag, size of the slr mags are also quite big, slr is long and its a burden to carry, plus the way the piston is fitted in the slr and the gas adjuster is not practical. But i must say the power of the slr is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@bhaskarchoudhury9295 yeah. the slr is quite the heavy lass but a beauty ! the same caliber is back again as those new SIG arm just inducted in LAC
"what goes around comes around "😂
India forced Nepal to buy low quality insas rifile instead of european or american rifle and nepal army suffered lot during civil war
Thats straight up bullshit. India even helped in training for counter insurgency.
Without knowing all of the details it kind of sounds like the reason they scrappedthe excalibur rifle was political. The US, and Russia both got their piece at the expense of the Indian taxpayer. Same story different country.
Name a country which produced a rifle without defects ? Insas had issues but it could have evolved , and made better. But politicians chose foreign over local
*We have to use simple logic, that we cannot compromise national security, to become Aatmanirbhar! We definitely have to become Aatmanirbhar, but if the technology is not available, then we have to let it mature...70years no progress and now people demand progress in one year!* 😂
One year? Its been 7 years
Ak 47 rifle has more chance to kill where as INSAS rifle design to injured not to kill.
When crucial weapons manufacturing is held by the state this will be the output, taking decades to build useless ordinance.
Bring in the private players into indian defence, scrap all the lazy government sectors.
Looks so ugly this rifle
Sounds like WW2 rifle.wake up india
Aatmanirbhar
Make in India
Rest in peace ⚰
You can't build something so suddenly you make collaboration, learn from collaboration and then build a best weapons
Who said to build a Rifle all of a sudden?
For your kind information R&D has been invested since a decade on basic infantry weapon and government babus couldn't design a weapon that could satisfy the requirements but private companies did it within 4 years of time. And what we get through collaboration or joint ventures is probably not the best product, example Russians gave us wherewithal to manufacture ak203s because they have ak12 and ak521s for their infantry troops and they wouldn't dare to give it's technology. All foreign companies will give their second best products. So it's far better to give chance for our own private companies.
Mud test exist
Proceeds to show Ak-47
Why do you use youtube when you are so concerned about Atmanirbhar. Why do you want to experiment on soldiers with these crazy concepts.
Go to a stationery stores, you will find all good quality products are made in china or Japan. Show your Atmanirbharata in making good quality pens, then we can think about Guns.
Simple : its Designed by indian government employees 😂
One of my friend is in HAL, what I came to know that most of technician and office bearers do not work with full potential intentionally,,. They wait for overtime schedule and do the most of work in overtime as overtime pays extra money. That's why it took decades to finish Tejas (1980-2015). Pathetic.
Fact :- many soldier killed in kargil war due to jaming
A poor man's ak. Never thought I'd see the day
I agree with dumping the rifle. But, did it took so many years to notice that the weapon is malfunctioning. I remember reading about this weapon in leading newspapers, that it is a cross between SLR and AK47. It's features cover the needs of our armed forces. Any product made in our arms factories will not be done as mentioned by commentators in this article. My point is it took so many years to notice and correct the fault. Gentlemen, we always fail collectively. When our PSUs can send a rocket to Mars then you think we cannot make a gun. Please, our systems are wrong, our implementation is wrong, above all our attitude is wrong. We are never one. We place everything other than merit in doing things. Merit means not reservation etc. Right person for right job. No region, religion, caste, creed, language etc. Then you see.
Just promise a good order to the Tata's or other pvt players they will make far far better small arms,the defense PSU's manufacture junk only
even the arms allowed to own by civilians are trash quality
@@ghostwarrior-ni1xb 100 agree
@@ghostwarrior-ni1xb it's a good thing or we would have mass shootings like in USA
@@ssachdeva31 no, mass shooting do happen in India but cause by terrorist and anti India groups and gangs etc but it doesn't mean we the regular civilians get to own trash quality products even if we pay a lot of money its essentially a scam
mass shooting are the cause by many factors not only availability of guns its like basically saying car accident happens so cars are bad
I don't mean to be rude friend but you certainly don't know the whole truth
do a unbiased investigation of any mass shooting that happen in America and you will find various factors not only guns
god bless us all
It was made up to the normal Indian standards of quality, reliability and design excellence.
In other words all the right people received brown envelopes?
This is what happens when some government babus had to decide what goes in the development.
Sell them to Hamas!
Because it's SHIT...
The govt answer for it being non lethal is pathetic-
They told their ambition is to capture the enemy not to kill them, I LMAO for decades 🤣🤣🤣
A it was army decision to capture not to kill and that why it had 5.56not 7.62 and it have been debated in many countries
B quality control and libalty of manufacturer was limted
It was not meant to capture, it was meant to injure so that in conventional war an injured will be carried out by 4 men, there by reducing the man power of enemies.
And It's not fake the philosophy was true, if you don't know check out Major Gaurav Arya's interview with an Arms specialist.
And now the philosophy is changed to "EK Goli Ek Dushman" and that's why we are going for 7.62*39 and 7.62*51
@@vikrantvicky6638 I don't believe in that philosophy, Weapons should be made to completely destroy the enemy once and for all. The projectile should be poisoned so that even if it's not a kill shot, the enemy would die from infection 😠😡👊
wood looks cool, but its so 80s... nowadays military arms have cool black polymer pistol grips and hand guards.
Too many generals, brigadiers and commanders here,who probably have not shot anything beyond PUBG guns
indi-geniously......
Thanks to Narendra Modi, our soldiers now have some of the best rifles in the world. Who cares if they are imported? Our soldiers with these imported rifles are more than capable to take care of our enemies.
Most poor quality rifles in the world. Whoever bought it has dumped it.
Ha ha ha.. What a jock.. After so many years of independence... India is still unable to produce a powerful rifle of it's own.. 🤣🤣🤣 ..
Insane rifle always got jam while shooting
No
After modifications (After kargil war) many issues were solved (including the jamming issue)
@@darthvader5558 no stil gets jammed. After 20 rounds clean it throughly
@@darthvader5558 no they stll jam ask any paramilitary personnel
Dnt make any foolish comments bro
It was like pm cares fund...
Aatma nirbhar fund😀😀😀