Major Gaurav Arya, Failed INSAS Rifle and Truth
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Defense experts also said the gun jams in extreme cold conditions which you didn't mention and still Army prefers AK-47 as far more superior than INSAS which came much later than AK. Of course we do not expect DRDO to make world class products at very early stages as it needs battle testing and time and of course money.
Its a rifle... u knw Taliban makes them right ?? 😂 sharam karlo kuch
Spoken like a true defense expert 😂. The jamming, poly magazine cracking was an issue with the INSAS 1A, but by the time of INSAS 1C( the all black INSAS with poly butstock) all of these issues were sorted out. Maj. Arya retired way before 1C was inducted. People I know who are serving in the Armed Forces and paramilitary had never complained about the rifle, except the fact it lacks auto fire.
In my state, the police is issued 1C and it's an irony that some police forces have better rifles than Indian Army( still uses the 1A and 1B/1 in bulk) and ITBP.
To all the non-ballistic defense experts who say (.22 Caliber) NATO 556 is useless, but in contrary it's a very accurate and low recoil round with reasonable soft armor penetration with wound cavity, even USSR 545 is of the same principle and both of them are doing wonderfully in taking life by M-4/AK-74.
By engineer perspective, INSAS is a well-thought-out gun with an excellent mechanism, it was only failed due to Babus from OFB, initially it had the same problems as the M-16 during Vietnam, like polymer cracking in cold and hot weather and mechanism prone to jamming in harsh environment use, but they evolved into M-4 and many other platforms.
In the words of Maxim Popenker gun expert, “INSAS rifle is broadly based on the famous Kalashnikov AK-47 action, but with many modifications. The basic gas-operated action with long stroke gas piston and a rotating bolt, as well as the stamped steel receiver, are generally the same as in modern Kalashnikov rifles. However, the gas system is fitted with a manual gas regulator, similar in design to that found on FN FAL rifles, as well as a gas cutoff. The charging handle has been moved from the bolt carrier to the left side of the forearm; it is similar in position and design to the German HK G3 rifle”.
Summary: INSAS only failed due to poor industrialization, Babu attitude by defense PSUs and Thick headed Army GSQR.
@@Humble_Balaclava dear engineer - the purpose of a rifle is to KILL the enemy before they kill you !
if the rifle can do that - its successful otherwise NOT.
Not once in his videos he talks about the jamming issue, cracking issue , over weight issue, sacchai 2 extreme ke beech me hoti hai ,
Major has used this weapon and he knows better than anyone else, be it drdo or ofb.
He blames gsqr for the weapon performance and the bullet size, guess what round our special forces tavor rifle uses.
what other rifle has ofb created in last 75 years which army can proudly accept without any pressure.
Why cant they create a good rifle calibre of ak203 which is derivative of ak47.
1. The magazine of INSAS is a big issue as well, especially cracking in cold weathers.
2. The frequent jamming of INSAS was also not discussed.
My father served in Army for 30 years.
And my Friends are as well as officers.
First choice is always AK.
BHAI MAT PUCHH AI INSPECTION MAIN JAB ISKO DHOYA JATA HE MINIMUM 15 AISE HI TOOT JATA HE...
True
Jb enemy ko marna hi nhi to danda hi theek hai
@@priyanshutiwari5728 🤣🤣🤣
@@thugsofmemes0 AI inspection mein aise kaise tut jata hain thoda batana bhai
Gaurav Arya was explaining monopoly, unaccountability and inefficiency of OFB. In that episode he explained failurity of not only Insas, but quality of armament & ammunition of OFB.
Our so many soldiers were killed in parakram excercise.
Modi ji merged OFB into companies, now they have to compete like other companies.
In my opinion there should not be monopoly or monopsony of PSB or private companies.
Din I say in video OFB was bad anyways ?
Major Arya was hiding the fact that it was Indian Army that itself placed GSQR for 5.56. instead Major was smartly portraying as if the shitty rifle was procured/given to Army by the Government then in power. Common person does not understands this. Why Major was whining over the 5.56 Insas when 5.56 rifle was itself wanted by the Army.
@@AlphaDefenseHindi What's the point to make a videoif you are just quoting what other people said
@@MANOJVERMA-yq9ec do you use such words as whining? For an Indian army officer?
It's a shitty rifle.
1. Low ammo
2. Stupid brust fire option, goes full auto sometimes.
3. Magazines crack in cold weather.
4. Frequent jamming.
- Basically unreliable and shitty.
- And I knew this about INSAS much earlier than Major saab said so, from my Father who served for 30 years in Indian army.
@@01010111m one major point
GSQR was from Army so they are equally involved
Sir , I was a 2nd Lieutenant just before the Kargil conflict and during my service in high altitude I've seen Jawans were trained to repair the minor problems of the standard issue primary weapon INSAS rifle & INSAS LMGs but both the guns used to be jammed & in affective in the high altitude warfare ....... But when I passed the CT School & SF officers training school I was given an Israeli Rifle called IMI Tavor TAR-21 Bullpup Gun & after the Kargil War general troops carrying INSAS rifle with a magazine containing 20 bullets & initially we could fire in 3 modes 1st the single shot mode 2nd was four bullets at a single fire mode & the automatic assault mode but during the Kargil ops our soldiers complained that INSAS rifles get jammed in cold environment & during high altitude post war pop-up ops by the 14th &16 nth Grenadiers , 5/8 Gurkhas & the Ghatak SF Platoons of Dogra & Nagas were given 7.62×39mm A.K Variant guns .......... So after the Kargil conflict our general duty INSAS rifles were being replaced by SIG 716i 72,400 units of SIG 716i are now active in service..... Additional 73,000 units are on order ...... We also planned to replace INSAS Rifle with AK 203 as our standard issue primary weapon.....First batch of 70,000 guns imported from Russia are in service now and 601,427 more rifles to be manufactured in India. Total plan was of 670,000+ rifles. which will be the standard service rifle of Indian Army replacing INSAS but due to the Ukraine war Russia is busy to be kicked out of the eastern Ukraine's strategic donbass & Luhansk regions ..........
Why u used to post your rank in ....on social media
Bhai ji aur kuch baki Nehi batane ko .. Sara Gyan online uddaa Diya . Ye secrecy hai kya defence ke
@@AutoMaTricS yes these are no more secret In fact our Govt declassified these reports in fact every soldiers knw that our standard issued rifles will be an AK variant Assault combat rifle & it's name was AK 203 But this war in Ukraine change everything right now Russians will manufacture AK 203 INSIDE Russia for their own use .......They even are not helping the Govt manufacture of AK 203 in India & withheld the project till the end of the Ukraine .....
@@AutoMaTricS bhai officer's hai fouj k to bhagwan jawans to majdoor h inke liye ye log jb gaali dete hai jawan jco ko to ye ni dekhte ki meri service kitni h or unki service kitni h
Two men are pakistani with fake id
Every dog has an opinion and you (we) dont have to defend ourselves to prove the point. He/ she is a dog after all. Major sahab is doing an invaluable service to the nation by awakening the moral soldier in us and in the process teaching the things that have never been told in our text books.
@@Dontknow515 Abhishek Aiyer Mitra.
True. I deeply respect Major sahab!
What to expose here … major Arya generalized the gun functioning but he didn’t say anything wrong in technical terms .. not like so called defense experts…
True, that's what even Alpha defense said same thing in his own way. The person who challenged him was totally idiot.😂
Major Gaurav Arya actually said the exact same thing said in this video. He was a frontline soldier. Who is more expert than him? Logistics is justified only if the output is positive.
To all the non-ballistic defense experts who say (.22 Caliber) NATO 556 is useless, but in contrary it's a very accurate and low recoil round with reasonable soft armor penetration with wound cavity, even USSR 545 is of the same principle and both of them are doing wonderfully in taking life by M-4/AK-74.
By engineer perspective, INSAS is a well-thought-out gun with an excellent mechanism, it was only failed due to Babus from OFB, initially it had the same problems as the M-16 during Vietnam, like polymer cracking in cold and hot weather and mechanism prone to jamming in harsh environment use, but they evolved into M-4 and many other platforms.
In the words of Maxim Popenker gun expert, “INSAS rifle is broadly based on the famous Kalashnikov AK-47 action, but with many modifications. The basic gas-operated action with long stroke gas piston and a rotating bolt, as well as the stamped steel receiver, are generally the same as in modern Kalashnikov rifles. However, the gas system is fitted with a manual gas regulator, similar in design to that found on FN FAL rifles, as well as a gas cutoff. The charging handle has been moved from the bolt carrier to the left side of the forearm; it is similar in position and design to the German HK G3 rifle”.
Summary: INSAS only failed due to poor industrialization, Babu attitude by defense PSUs and Thick headed Army GSQR.
@@abhijeetkundu2271 People who are serving now, compared to Maj. Arya who retired 2 decades ago. People have no idea how different the 1A and 1C versions are.
@@abhijeetkundu2271ABHIJIT is more expert than major🙈
He is not contradicting with what Major said, he is only pointing out that issues with InSAS was because of faulty GSQR by Army and low quality control by OFB
Yes but he always tried to defend sarkari tantra
bhai agar OFB bhi quality control nahi kar sakti or HAL bhi nahi kar sakti to privateise hi hoga defence.
To all the non-ballistic defense experts who say (.22 Caliber) NATO 556 is useless, but in contrary it's a very accurate and low recoil round with reasonable soft armor penetration with wound cavity, even USSR 545 is of the same principle and both of them are doing wonderfully in taking life by M-4/AK-74.
By engineer perspective, INSAS is a well-thought-out gun with an excellent mechanism, it was only failed due to Babus from OFB, initially it had the same problems as the M-16 during Vietnam, like polymer cracking in cold and hot weather and mechanism prone to jamming in harsh environment use, but they evolved into M-4 and many other platforms.
In the words of Maxim Popenker gun expert, “INSAS rifle is broadly based on the famous Kalashnikov AK-47 action, but with many modifications. The basic gas-operated action with long stroke gas piston and a rotating bolt, as well as the stamped steel receiver, are generally the same as in modern Kalashnikov rifles. However, the gas system is fitted with a manual gas regulator, similar in design to that found on FN FAL rifles, as well as a gas cutoff. The charging handle has been moved from the bolt carrier to the left side of the forearm; it is similar in position and design to the German HK G3 rifle”.
Summary: INSAS only failed due to poor industrialization, Babu attitude by defense PSUs and Thick headed Army GSQR.
@@jshaan75 These companies needs to be accountable, abhi channels like these will come to defend them and bolenge hamare pass zyada gyan h.
@@arciful People who don't know 2 cents about engineering and firearms are being defence experts here😂. Some idiot on the internet who has no idea that design and production are done by different companies will always blabber. So do you care to explain how INSAS 1C became reliable while 1A wasn't, if not for the improvements in manufacturing techniques?
sorry couldn't understand...what did you want to elaborate in this video
The reason Major is against Insas because the magzine cracks in the slightest fall and gets jammed in high altitude.
And this so called expert from alpha defense did not mention it at all. My Dad is from defense. I have heard stories from him only about how stupid this insas was. Major Gaurav Arya was bang on. And here it was completely blamed on OFB for bad manufacturing... But in reality by design also it Insas was flawed. On high altitudes it used to jam.
@@rahulsaroha1128 What did your dad do in 'defense'?? Now don't say he cleaned toilets.
@@anirecapped. wow! You show your character here. Mr. Punchsble face and kickable ass.
..
Is this how you talk about someone's father?
Is this how you think about people who clean toilets and do manual work?
Is this how you talk about a person who might have served in forces to protect your sorry ass?
...
Learn to be humble or someone in real life will teach you how to be humble.
@@rahulsaroha1128 same here. 30 years served
@@anirecapped.bhai mere chacha itbpf me hai or unka bhi experience insas se kuch behtar nhi h
The man who personally handled the very gun here we talking in training and combat level, should know better than who analyse on data basis..major never claimed he is expert in every field, that does not mean some data bugs would be expert without any ground reality.
Maj served 25 years ago. Today's INSAS is vastly different than earlier variants in terms of reliability, customisation and build. People have no idea that there are multiple variants of INSAS. Idk why IA never inducted newer variants in bulk but many state police and paramilitary forces have been buying the INSAS 1C for a long time and they have no issues fighting insurgents and maoists with AKs.
Also, INSAS was never designed for CQB, that's why RR always uses AKs.
Was kargil operation a cqb ?
@@meetme59 At that time, INSAS was just entering the service and most units were still equipped with the FAL copies. Anyway, the point is, INSAS at this point was a brand new design and like anything new, it had some initial teething issues which were latter rectified in the subsequent iterations.
Same story with M16A1 rifles, lots of jamming and overheating problems but did the US armed forces just ditch that thing at a heartbeat for that?? NO, they didn't. They continued to improve upon it and now it's considered too be among the most reliable and effective rifle designes of our time!!
@@anirecapped. it costed many lives in war and insurgency..who says its a much better now? DRDO AND OFB just praise each other , never heard army recommending it. if army says it sucks then there is no reason to believe otherwise.
@@meetme59 Ok, General VP Malik himself, has stated on record, that INSAS to be a satisfactory design. So, right back at ya.
And yes, you'll never see anyone praising it because - it's a desi maal, therefore no kickbacks. See, it's all about money. Always have been and always will be.
सच कहूँ तों मैंने भी इसे 18 साल इस्तेमाल किया है या कहूँ झेला हैं यह ops में भरोसेमंद नहीं है
भाई साहब नमस्कार!
मैं मेजर साहब के तरफ हुँ।👍
Major sir said the same thing that there was initially bullshit ki ek ko goli lagegi toh uske saathi nikal ke aaenge and self confidence bhi low hoga.....
by the way he criticised INSAS in many videos and stated all the reasons that you gave earlier in several of videos....
But the good news is, soon this Insas are completely replaced by AK203. Already productions were started last year.
Maj gaurav arya was 💯% right, All the bookish knowledge and facts are of no use, while in real life combat scenario, my father is in infantry and every soldier prefer ak than to insas, they call it bakwas as a lot of problem is faced by them with insas,
I believe that Insas rifles has many many more problems far worse...than those discussed here...
I think AIM is very dismissive about India's gains in defence manufacturing.
Please do tell your opinion on ak 203 even though it could also be an another logistical nightmare for our defense expert.
Don't call him Defence Expert, he's dallal of foreign lobbies in India.
That's why he indulges in fear mongering so as to attract more viewership and project a messiah type figure "tum sab chumteeya hoo, main hun tumhara savior" ab chalo xyz countries se saaman khareedo kyunki Indians are inept!
Not exactly we are shifting slowly towards 7.62
To all the non-ballistic defense experts who say (.22 Caliber) NATO 556 is useless, but in contrary it's a very accurate and low recoil round with reasonable soft armor penetration with wound cavity, even USSR 545 is of the same principle and both of them are doing wonderfully in taking life by M-4/AK-74.
By engineer perspective, INSAS is a well-thought-out gun with an excellent mechanism, it was only failed due to Babus from OFB, initially it had the same problems as the M-16 during Vietnam, like polymer cracking in cold and hot weather and mechanism prone to jamming in harsh environment use, but they evolved into M-4 and many other platforms.
In the words of Maxim Popenker gun expert, “INSAS rifle is broadly based on the famous Kalashnikov AK-47 action, but with many modifications. The basic gas-operated action with long stroke gas piston and a rotating bolt, as well as the stamped steel receiver, are generally the same as in modern Kalashnikov rifles. However, the gas system is fitted with a manual gas regulator, similar in design to that found on FN FAL rifles, as well as a gas cutoff. The charging handle has been moved from the bolt carrier to the left side of the forearm; it is similar in position and design to the German HK G3 rifle”.
Summary: INSAS only failed due to poor industrialization, Babu attitude by defense PSUs and Thick headed Army GSQR.
@@PS-ug7nm We are not shifting towards 7.62x39 but there is already too much stock of these rounds that was main reason to buy AK-203. There is no advantage in having 7.62x39. 5.56x45 is the best rifle cartridge ever design. There should be no dispute regarding this.
@@Humble_Balaclava ^ This.
I just hate the orange color of Insas.....mtlb kya soch ke yeh colour choose kiya tha😂.......AK se copy kiya tha lekin ak ka wooden finish hain ....in logo ne toh pura orange hi kar diya......i like the black colour x caliber......woh jyada standard lgta hain
Pros:- accuracy main sahi hai.
Cons:- 1.sabse bakwas rifle fire karte karte ruk jati hai. 2.Kabhi bhi bhi koi part damage ho jata hai.3.firing pin bahut Tut ti hai
I used almost all available rifles in India but insaan is wrost.
My uncle was in kargil and frankly speaking let me give u an insight -
1. Breaking of magazine in cold temp when taking hard cover
2. Jamming of weapon
3. The weapons suddenly become automatic during an long all night battle situations (for the semi-automatic version)
In all these the stopping power more less when we taken in account of winter clothing
Exactly, unfortunately some people who even never saw or touched any gun but watch on TV OR YouTUBE or movies and they knw everything
@@prithwijitkb4305 u pointing this to me ?
Just a correction. The range of a 5.56x45mm is longer than that of 7.62x39. This is exactly why the Russians went ahead with their own equivalent of the 5.56 that is 5.45x39mm after looking at its advantages with the new AR15 in their new rifle the AK74M.
You don't need Measure tap range, affective range matters that can kill at that range
yes.
isliliye US ne 6.5mm Creedmoor banaya both dhyan rakhte huye. aur 6.8mm Remington SPC bhi. but ye sab special category ke hai. Standard nahi.
Mode One :- Jab soldier ko lage ki target ko sirf marna hai to Automatic mode 3 bullets ek hi jagah par fire karke enemy body ke aar paar ho jati thi
The major is right.
The problem is with the stupid decision making of the army itself.
The 5.56 round was used by the Americans for nearly 10 years during the Vietnam war.
Literally 10000s of articles were written in US firearm magazine about the bullet and it's performance.
The indian defence attache instead of learning about the bullet and it's actual performance. Just told the army about it.
The army after fighting LTTE decided that it wants what the Americans used in Vietnam.
You get INSAS.
But instead of owning it. They blame the DRDO.
Yes you have brought out the truth No Doubt. But you have missed on a very important point. feedback from its user.
This is a useless rifle not because of its ammunition used and it’s stopping power but because of its extremely high rate of failure during use, like jamming of round, misfire and so on.
This is the main reason Army doesn’t want it and want to change it.
5.56mm NATO cartridge in any rifle from USA / Germany/ France/ South Africa/ Israel...or be it from Mars or Jupiter...is still a failure.
The rifle is not the problem.
The cartridge is the problem.
I have shot M-4, Insas and Tavor, different rifles, same result on target.
Centre body mass shot at less than 200 metres, does not put down an assailant for many minutes even hours.
This cartridge is a wounding round, not a killing round. Period.
@@bastabbiswas7734 you mean M4 is a failure?
@@bastabbiswas7734 It depends on the situation you want to use the gun for. Intermediate cartridges like 5.56 NATO, 7.62X39 & 5.45X39 Russian were designed for massed warfare on the likes of WW2 & not for CI/CT ops.
@@soumabratabiswas6652 wrong perception bro.
5.56mm NATO vs 5.49mm Soviet are completely different cartridges with completely different purposes.
The former was designed to wound a soldier such that two more soldiers have to carry him back, thus disengaging 3 soldiers from the battle.
The latter was designed to carry maximum energy upto limit of range. Sectional density & aerodynamic performance were top priority. While the bullet construction made it far more deadlier than the NATO cartridge. That Soviet bullet was named 'poison bullet' by the Mujahideen.
Any military cartridge has to be designed to outperform the adversary under any conditions. Else it is not a military cartridge. Period.
@@basunandanhandique6015 yes M-4 is ineffective compared to AK series
इस राइफल में और भी खामियॉ हैं जो कारगिल युद्ध के समय भारतीय सैनिकों के अधिक जानी नुकसान होने का कारक बना.
Indian government ka design kia gaya sare Weapons dekh ne me "Jugar ka maal" jaisa lag ta hai.
@@darkodonnie2729jo ache engineer hai vo to videsh chale jate hai
The policy during Congress era was this kind of "Jugar ka maal" so that they could keep importing and putting money in their Swiss account.
INSAS was phased out of the British Army in the 70's and was picked up by the IA. It has a major issue of jaming due to cartridge swelling.
I wasnt aware of this ! Thanks for letting me know. I will also tell this to DRDO Colleagues who developed this gun in 1980s
@@AlphaDefenseHindiinsas is copy of isreali galil.. So he is partially rite... And galil is 5.56 copy of ak47...
Expert ji... I think this is how people should counter react or clarify things without aggressively basing at other
Good Morning. Jai Hind . Big fan of Resp. Major Gaurav Arya sir .
As usual great analysis and Best Morning Sweetner alongwith tea biscuits.
I think nowadays everyone is becoming defence expert. As per my father who was. Army person who used it in kargil and drass. Sector sir you are 100℅ correct . And its also correct that terrorists never got scared of insas . They were scared. Of ak 47 . These are words of my fahter
Bhai mere jitne bhi cousin army me hain sabhi INSAS ko gaaliyaan hi dete hain. AK47 ke alaawa unko kisi pe bhi bharosa nahi. Yanha tak ki Sig saur rifle ki aiming kaafi sahi hai par magazine damage ho jaati hai kyunki wo metal ki jagah fiber ki bani hai. RR waale to AK ke alaawa kuch leke jaana hi nahi chaahate.
I m feeling sad for those guys who thinks logistics wale expert sahab is expert in defence sector😂😂😂
Well we can only know who's speaking the truth when an actual war or scenario occurs
@@Shubhamkumar-fr9hlIf not already, CCP tech is progressing properly with each passing day, they achieve it through hook or a crook.
They don't have Sarkari dallas defending improper inefficient organisations. They either eliminate the trouble makers or rather choose good management methods right from the start. Something the DPSU dalle are not known for!
@@Shubhamkumar-fr9hl Chinese rifles r definitely not better than western rifles bt definitely better than this thulla created INSAS.
Ask Export market🤡🤡
@@varun2250 yes they are improving day by day,now after some years they shall match russian standards and after some years they shall match western standards too
Major Gaurav Arya actually said the exact same thing said in this video. He was a frontline soldier. Who is more expert than him? Logistics is justified only if the output is positive.
I personally feel Indian companies like SSS and ASTRA should be given equal opportunity in Indian defence so as Indians we can proudly say yes we have an indigenous gun like what the AK is for Russia ..
7.62 penetrates from one side & goes out from another.
5.56 penetrates but can't go out, hence does more internal injury.
That's a reason I see Westerns give the most behind supporting 5.56.
Insas is a gun which is known for exploding gun magazines.
It isn't just me or Major Arya or Indian Army but also Nepalese army too
Beautiful explanation 👌 bang on - exact clarity on real truth 👏
I have used INSAS during ny service days and Maj Arya @chankayadialogues is absolutely right on these horrible weapons . No one in my unit wanted to carry an INSAS . We all wanted the AK . There were many issues with its polymer magazines which cracked many times during use let alone how many times it jammed . Terrible weapon
Haha.. we r using AK … worst thing about insas is their magazine..
@@Bernard_10075 Magazines and the butt as well , not to mention the frequent jamming and misfire during Full Auto ( not used much and not preferred , ek goli ek dushman principle ) , plus the 5.56 * 45 round is not useful
Not every unit is using AK . Rashtriya Rifles has been given AK's for counter insurgency , as large number of infantry formations still use the INSAS
I personally used INSAS almost 17 years and in my whole service I was spent my maximum time in shooting championship with INSAS Rifle. I personally feel that this Rifle is worst Rifle used in my service I prefer a iron rod instead of this INSAS Rifle
👉 Just like western rifle manufacturing industry has Managed to obtained minimum recoil like German Heckler & Koch HK417.
👉 The Recoil generated by 7.62x51mm bullets in Rifles can be minimize through Research & Development in the field of Design, Material technology, Ballistics & Manufacturing.
👉 7.62x51mm NATO has felt recoil of approximately 22 ft/lbs while the 7.62x39mm recoil will clock in around 8.7 ft/lbs.
The worst thing about INSAS was its moving parts. a fraction of dust and it will jam like anything.
While I give you that poor policy making caused a lot of issues but ultimately Ordinance factory & engineers who designed this rifle screwed it up completely. Its really sad that we can't even build our own rifle, which is probably the most simplest piece of equipment on a battle field.
appreciate the competetion between aim/major arya and subodh alpha defense as long it is healthy.
hope all of them are rooting for the same team, someone we know once said , truth lies in between these extremes. vel vel vetrivel
अंत मे जिस को प्रोडक्ट का उपयोग करना है वो सन्तुष्ट होना चाहिए,
तांत्रिक और सैद्धांतिक बातो का महत्व उसके बाद देना चाहिए।
correction: 7.62x39 does not have a longer effective range compared to 5.56x45. BC of 5.56 is more optimized as compared to 7.62x39. In the 90s the best options available were 5.56x45 Nato or 5.45x39 russian round used in the Ak74. Looking at the future we need something in the middle of 5.56x45 and 7.62x51.
The 5.56x45 has a smaller bullet and a larger case which holds more powder, hence, it has a longer firing range.
It's disappointing to see how because of some experts we have made a mockery of what could have been a homemade solution , I hope someone from govt is listening and that there could be something done to rectify the mistake here , jai hind,🇮🇳
@adarshpraekh3897 ask any infantry man, they will tell how rubbish the gun is.
Will you eat garbage for high money paid i don't think so and they can pay it by life on line.
Abhijit Iyer Mitra is "thotha chana baje ghana". I dont know why he is given so much importance by media. The content of his discussion on any topic shows how superficial his learning is.
Major also Said same thing
I don't know how much you are correct. Only experts in this field and users of the gun will be able to give correct picture.....
Again ! I was talking about why insas was a failure not of it is or it is not
Defender: 7.62 x 39/51
Aggressor/Invedar: 5.56 x 45
👌👌👌👌👌 Similarly make one video on artillery guns and their ammunition and fire range. 105mm IFG, 105 mm Kalyani Bharat Forge, 130 mm, 152 mm bofors, ....etc. Kindly explain their shells with dimension.
US is also trying to ditch 5.56mm round with their NGSW program which uses 6.8mm round. Which falls in between 5.56 and 7.62x51mm rounds. They are also thinking to replace .50 BMG in some roles to .338 Lapua.
USA me 50Cal bullet ko hi sabse best mana jata hai. per hamare india me aise chutiyo ko aaj bhi 80s aur 90s ke gun ko lekar proud feel hota hai. insko sharam aani chahiye.
I think we must not question our defence guys who have used these guns. Theory and practical are 2 different aspects.
Major sahaab did not say - 200 meter par aadmi marta nahin but he actually said that 200 meter par kutta bhi na mare, itni ghatiya gun hai INSAS 😂!
👌👌👌 Absolutely well explained.
BTW I have tagged Major Gaurav Arya in Koo while sharing this video.
Are you on Koo by any chance ??
i remember one incident when one of my friend went to his father's santri post and accidently an insas mag fell down and cracked cuz of him, the height of the place where it was kept was hardly 1.5 meters, this shows the "military grade" quality of this crap gun, the mag freaking cracked up after falling from hardly 1.5 m and thus you can imagine what the hell would have happened during the kargil, kudos and mad respect to our soldiers who won such a war relying on these junk quality guns of ofb, even my father tells me that, this gun is only and only developed for making the enemy injured (as you mentioned in the video), he told me that apart from poor quality it lacks accuracy too, my father always use to get an excellent with AK, but never managed to get the same remark with the INSAS!
One question sir.... Till date in all the clips I have noticed Sig 716 is used either with iron sight only or with holographic sight... But either of them is not ideal or contemporary for long range... Any idea why ACOG type of sight is not being used?
The holographic sight would have been better suited for AK 203...but not having a sight, appropriate for hitting target at long range is defeating the purpose if 7.62*51
The biggest revolution after the introduction of automatic rifles in WW2, have happened in sighting systems only..... I think we are still reluctant to adapt that
I have used L1A1 7.62 SLR I dont feel that much recoil. It is a good rifle , government may have considered it's full auto version ,it would be more good & compatible with Bren Light Machine Gun. Still we are using Bren Light Machine gun as it is far more superior then Insas LMG.
Major Arya ke aadhe video ko dekha hoga us expert ne because major gaurav arya had clearly explained like you did
DRDO ne lajawab Rifle banayi thi Indian ARMY ke specifications par
You do a good analysis when you explain the topic, off late you are have been involved in countering other channels and speakers
Avoid getting distracted focus on your strength
...bhai..mejor sahab ne ye gun use kra h .unhe jyada achce se pata h reality .
DRDO & ammunition factory एक बंदूक़ नहीं बना सकती ( बाहर से AK लेनी पड़ रही हे।।)
@ 2.27 minutes
My understanding was always been ki 5.56*45 usually gives longer range than 7.62*39 rounds
& INSAS also had longer effective range 400-450m.) than AK varients (300m) (atleast on most public sources)
NOTE - personally technicalities k liye may Major k pas nhi jaunga, ALPHA DEFENCE & another channel are my way to go.
Sir INSAS all weather use ka kya karoge, and it had lot of issue with hang and heat failure to use in critical situations
It isn't a good gun. Point was 5.56 vs 7.62
Wish the authorities allowed for designing competition for choosing guns for the army. Both the legendary m16 and ak47 were winners of competitions.
Performance of INSAS rifle was very poor in Kargil war... Even Nepali army returned it saying that rifle is not efficient...
Your analysis is 100% accurate...trust me👮
Alpha Defense being the real APLHA
Thanks for clarification.
By the way have you worked with development team or testing team or as soldier.
Spent 15 days with designers during an internship
@@AlphaDefenseHindi I thought that you may be a soldier with a decade of experience.
@@saikumarmadadi7524 soldiers vs engineer with doctorate in engineering that debate will go on..
When Insas was made army decided to go for 5.56mm to injure the terrorist and not to kill them so remaining terrorist remain busy in handling injurred one......
INSAS was good gun for the money & time spent on it.
We Never invested in it to make it better & upgrade it .
We failed INSAS.
Those 7.62×39 appear to have brass casing. I remember Russians using steel casing in AK rounds (Well Russian infantry switched to standardized Ak74m with 5.45X39 anyway😅). My question is are these 7.62×39 rounds with brass casing locally produced in India or imported from balkans?
Made in india
@@AlphaDefenseHindi I see. Guess we're right on track then.
at 2:24 you said that range of 7.62x39 > range of 5.56x45, but practically its opposite as far as range is concerned. As per the extensive shooting results shows that effective range of 5.56x45 is comparatively more than effective shooting range of 7.62x39. Though the stopping potential or the kinetic energy which a bullet carries is definetly more of 7.62x39 as it is more heavier than 5.56x45. Effective firing range of 7.62x39( 250 mets - 300mets) and of 5.56x45(450 mets - 500mets). Rest video was very nice and very well elaborated.
Nepali army stopped using insas when they realised they get jammed ! They had maoist attack and some guns jammed ! They say ak is very rugged as the internal components are big
One point sir....7.62*39 has lesser effective range than 5.56*45.....and Insas was not poorly planned... But it is poorly executed by OFB.... The thought process for 5.56*45 is very well applicable for conventional warfare against processional armies of 80s to early 2000...because body armour was not a standard equipment till that time for infantry.
But yes, we should have thought that in India border areas are primarily open places (hills and deserts) so having greater range actually makes more sense, hence 7.62*51 is useful. Even in interior where CI/CT ops are carried out, there stopping power is important along with light weight hench 7.62*39.
Well explained 👏 👌 👍
No one soldier like this rifle. its bitter truth bitter
The effective range of 5.56x45 rounds is higher than 7.62x39mm Russian rounds. The INSAS has a better accuracy over 200 meters as compared to Kalashnikov
you forgot to mention penetration. the NATO rounds have much higher penetration than Soviet round. the nato round accuracy is better because of constant high velocity therefore it has better effective range. many times the nato round just penetrates the flesh and doesn't stop the body because it contains less energy.
Bhaiya please made on , why we can use or take us army new service rifle??
The only good point about INSAS is its accuracy, you can aim pin point, yes it is true that it is ineffective during battel as these bullets do not cause much damage due to its smoothness and weight.
Could you make a video on TRISHUL missile under Integrated Missile program.
Insas is a bad weapon I am an ITBP soldier...Main problem of Insas is that Magzine is made of plastic it breaks easily when hit to anything, when we fire the oil splits of the barrel comes and sometimes drop on the eyes, recoil is slow, bullet never goes straight, jamming problem,sometimes it explodes when it becomes jammed, it didn't work properly in extreme cold climates
taking the bull by the horns.. i like your style bro 🙌🙌👏👏👏
Russians also switched to 5.45mm round....even smaller than 5.56mm
Logistics walon ke pas koi logic nahi hai.😂😂😂
Haa bhai,sare logic to tumme hi bhadi padi hai...😂😂😂😂
UK ki university wale to chutiya hai,jo unko speech dene bula liya tha..
What about the gun jamming? Magazine cracking? Excessive heating? High pressure? Bad hardness values? Malfunctioning?bad fire selector? And it was the govt who didn't want the personnel to be killed but to be injured as they were peaceful. And stopping power of medium nd short range weapons does not matter. See Thompson's experiment.
Din I say "quality control of OFB was as usual bad" ?
irrespective of what anyone say either good or bad..we just cannot afford to go to war with Insas rifle in hand in 2023..this thing should have been retired by 2010
True ...
Sir, you have to clearly state what you are trying to prove. Leaving things half said or implying things wont work. Be direct. I did not understand the conclusions you reached in this video.
5.56x45 mm almost same wounds like .22 LR coz diameter off 5.56x45 nd 223 Remington is same bullet .223 Remington can use in 5.56x45 calibre but in .223 Remington u can’t use 5.56x45 coz of Neck of Ammunition is minor different you can’t see with eyes
What is the speciality in AK 203 ?
Insas is deadly weapon as for as its accuracy is concerned but it can't be used effectively in ambushes and intense battlr/ firing situations...
Malfunction problem bahot thi quality issues bhi thay burst mode automatically switch hota tha baar baar polish and rusting issue bhi thay or rough and tough to kahi say kahi tak nahi thi ye
Bhai ko ek aur manhaaninka ka muqadma chahiye Pehle abhijit Iyer mitra se panga to le hi chuke hain. 😂😂 End Mein apology likh denge
JAI HIND 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🇮🇳
INSAS needs re-designing. Even AK 47 has gone through several phases of re-designing. I have fired INSAS, it's a good gun but needs further improvement. Like it can be made with the latest materials and chamber different ammo. INSAS design can be used as a base model to develop further INSAS series guns like Bullpup and Sniper.
Sir agar aap major sahab ke saath podcast karenge tho it will be great 🙏
10 mins silence for a mechanical or electrical engineering claiming that 5.56×45 bullet's range is lower than 7.62×39.
A basic Google search would have helped you.
7.62×39 travells slower hence a lower range but has more energy due to heavier bullet's
While 5.56×45 travells much faster and has higher range but is low on energy due to lighter bullets
Indian army reverting back to 7.62×39 ak 203 is not due to logistics but the stopping power of the bullets.
Which is required due to the hilly terrain in which we fight.
Both the rounds kill people but 7.62 is more effective for targets behind light cover.
Did I just hear him say that Human rights is non sense ? Wonderful. I guess you don't need them then and you are powerful enough to protect yourself from any institutional machinery on your own. Don't talk about judicial remedy or rule of law from now onwards and dont go pleading to the courts if anyone does anything to you.
7.62×39 actually have less practical range than the 5.56 due to poor ballistic coefficient
Well it purely depends on the war tactics and ground..
In this era of high tech weapons, Russia and Entire West is still fighting on ww2 era tactics, becuase every missile is having Anti missile, Tank has Anti Tank, Aircraft is having Air defense.
SO War tactics and battle readiness is the key.