The Hunger Games *Mockingjay Pt. 1* is DEPRESSING...
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- Опубліковано 13 лис 2023
- Reaction Commentary to "The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1" (2014) starring Jennifer Lawrence, Josh Hutcherson, Liam Hemsworth, Woody Harrelson, Stanley Tucci, Elizabeth Banks, Donald Sutherland, Sam Claflin, Jena Malone, Julianne Moore, Mahershala Ali, Jeffery Wright, and Philip Seymour Hoffman || based on the books by Suzanne Collins
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So, Gale wasn’t actually her cousin in the books. That comes from a part of the books where they pretend Gale is here cousin to better sell peeta and katniss’ love story. It makes sense why people that the cousin thing is true though, because when Suzanne Collins submitted the draft of the book originally Gale was supposed to be much more of a friend than love interest but the marketers thought that a love triangle would sell better, so his role was changed. Which really just lead to a pouty, possessive, annoying Gale that distracts from the plot.
Honestly him as a platonic friend of Katniss that she would have to would have made a much better character that possessive love interesting. We needed more platonic boy/girl friendships during that time period
Katniss didn’t even know he was attracted to her until she returned from the games and he was all bent out of shape. She was always clueless about how others felt about her, always assuming they either had no opinion of her or thought poorly of her. Peeta was the one who could read people.
You mean I suffered through another love triangle because of marketing?! Personally, the love triangle really did nothing for the story. We have kids killing each other for people’s entertainment. These are high stakes.
What’s funny is it’s a guess based on book descriptions Katniss is of Native American ancestry (olive skin, long straight dark hair commonly braided) from her dad’s side and Gale is stated to look like her as well. And in some of the Native American communities ive been told by my native friend, there’s a joke of “Is that my cousin?” Or that someone you see/know could be your cousin. So the joke of them being possibly related cousins actually has a few niche layers to it.😅
It feels forced because it was forced upon the author!
Finnick's speech where he talks about being sold for his body towards the end is also so awful because he won his game at 14 years old. He was still a child.
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@@PinkPopcast Gale is pretending to be Katniss cousin in the books
@@PinkPopcast the bombing scene is poorly shoot the aircraft had bombed the hospital on that first past Katniss and Gale made the Aircraft crash in front of the building when they shoot them down
THANK YOU@@smdownh9
That's fucking disgusting
I literally just realised that the granddaughter undoing her braid indicates that she’s actually scared of her grandfather and knows he’d punish her like anyone else
Ooof that's rough
She knows that any lack of subordination wouldn't be tolerated, especially as she probably haven't seen aunt Tigris for long time at this point as well.
@@mjm3091omg I didn’t even think of thatttttt
Peeta lost his leg in the first games. Being an amputee was such a big part of his character arch and had a pretty significant impact on plot and other characters’ motivations. So frustrating that the left it out of the movies.
Holy shit I forgot that was a part of the books lol
His amputation was also a big factor in the development of their love story. With these movies, I was so sad that they did not develop the love story between Katniss and Peeta. In the book it gets so deep and it makes you understand why it was always going to be peeta and talks about how Gail’s character was completely changed after the first games and he became someone she couldn’t even recognize. in addition, they left out the fact that she was deaf mostly after the first games. The first games were literally the roughest on those two and they made it out.
I completely forgot about that! How exactly does he lose his leg again?
@@thedarkphoenix1640 Because his leg got infected from a wound that didn't heal right during the 74th games, to the point where the only option to survive was to amputate. In the movies they cured the wound with a cream from the gifts that the capitol left on the cornucopia.
Especially since people with disabilities don’t get represented a lot.
Gale isn’t her cousin 😂 after the first games they had to come up with a reason this dude was hanging around when she was supposed to be so in love with Peeta, so that was the story.
Yeah like that's how peeta got away with showing a photo of gale in the games cause he got to be like 'think of your family' and include him
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she wanted peeta to live so badly bc to her he was everything good, everything that was worth saving while she wasn’t
She’s definitely worth saving in the movies though lol
@PinkPopcast It's what she thinks of herself. She thinks she isn't worth saving.
Part of ger ptsd
lmao the reason benji gets friend vibes from katniss and gale is because she never liked gale like that. at least in the movies it’s apparent that he was always shooting his shot with her even though it’s clear she wasn’t looking for a relationship and that her main priority was protecting her family and loved ones. then peeta came along and surprised her because he never expected anything from her, just cared about her and was there for her so she fell for him without knowing it herself. gale wanted a relationship from katniss, peeta just wanted katniss however she would have him.
Yeah, they definitely didn’t need to add the love triangle to the movies, she seemed to be not sure whether or not she loved Gale
@@PinkPopcast for realllllll she loved gale just not in the way he wanted her to, so she kissed him because she felt like she should not because she wanted to-which is not a good reason to kiss someone lol!!! gale did get strung along a bit which is unfair to him, but he cared more about who katniss would choose than he did about her 😤😤 (can you tell i hate gale with a burning passion ?!)
Agreed Gale pressured her to chose and after the first games they had became to different and he would never be able to understand what she went through and be there for her the way she needed him to.
People need to remember they’re all teens. It’s not unusual to have an unrequited love. It’s not unusual for a girl who suddenly has options to be indecisive about a forever partner. Especially in an oppressive environment
what he said is true but in the books she did liked him before she liked peta she never acted on it before the games cause she was a free spirit plus unsure and she prioritized her survival above all else romance was a luxury for her and she was kinda uninterested in romantic stuff but after the first games they started kinda dating she does give asexual vibes in the books
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Everyone wanted Peeta to live because funny enough this book subverted gender norms. Katniss was always more masculine, not very kind or open with her emotions and many times in the books would tell herself how Peeta deserved to live over her. Peeta exuded more feminine qualities; artistic, a baker, he deeply loved his family and was always very open with his emotions. I think similar to Katniss, Haymitch viewed Peeta sometimes as the more decent one to live but ultimately I think everyone wanted Katniss alive so they could use her
Oof that is some phenomenal subtext. Really wish movies knew how to portray that in their scripts better. Still, great movies.
And also Peeta had a talent for using his words to move people to action. Katniss said in the book that she knew Peeta would be of more use to the revolution because he could fire up the people and she thought she would be better off as a martyr
@@PinkPopcastI honestly think the movies did a good job of showing this. Its just subtle you have to pay attention lmao
@@valentinafangirlingthe books being in Katniss’ pov works well because we get a lot more information and context due to hearing her thoughts, but I think the movies also being completely in her pov and focusing on her story alone was a detriment, especially for viewers who didn’t read the books. Peeta, Haymitch, Finnick and Johanna in particular are fantastic characters with great backstories and personalities, but that got lost in the movies in favour of focusing solely on Katniss and the revolution. It’s made blatantly obvious in the books that Peeta is super popular with the viewers in the capitol, that he’s very likeable and is known for being compassionate and kind despite coming from an abusive home with a mother and brothers who are pretty indifferent to him. I remember during training in catching fire he becomes close to the morphlings and paints with them, which makes the scene when one of them sacrifices herself to save him and he comforts her as she dies especially poignant and sad.
That being said, my mum who has never read the books nor knows anything about the plot watched all the movies recently on her own and was telling me her thoughts about them when I was catching up with her. She definitely got the impression that Katniss wanted Peeta to survive because he was a genuinely good person, willing to sacrifice everything to protect Katniss (and others) and because she loved him and would clearly do anything for her loved ones. I guess it’s just up to interpretation if you don’t have the more extensive knowledge on these characters that is given in the books.
@@PinkPopcast I mean, they showed him doing all those things. Showed him being softer and being able to communicate better and such. How else could they show it?
it's always gonna be insane to me that people can watch movies like this and be appropriately appalled at the behavior of the capitol but when it happens in real life to real people it's "well it's a complicated thing on both sides :/"
bombing hospitals is never a "complicated" thing on both sides. it's pretty cut and dry, actually.
also the whole rollout of promotion for these movies made me feel insane because just like the capitol, all the press cared about was the love triangle (and not, you know, that children were killing each other and being forced to lead a revolution). also i will never forget how dystopian it felt hearing the hanging tree REMIX play on top 40 radio stations??????? what!! hollywood lacks so much self-awareness it's insane.
everything yes.
the way this movie reflects things happening right now so much is so insane, i wish people would sympathise with palestinian people as much as they do with fictional oppressed characters too
Completely agreed! Everyone is choosing to be blind
agreed, its so hard not to see the parallels, the bombings of hospitals, losing communication, cutting off resources as punishment, all very real things happening with the situation in Gaza. Unfortunately even like in the hunger games, a new age will have to be built on the graveyards of others as a sacrifice.
This franchise had a huge impact on us, the youth. You can see on any social media that the majority of us have been standing for Palestine for a while now
"The Hanging Tree" is actually about a rebel from District 12 who planted bombs in the mines to stop work. Instead, he killed three people, one of which was a Peacekeeper, and was then hanged at a tree reserved for hangings. His lover, Lil, was screaming for him and he yelled for her to run right before he was hanged. Just a few weeks later, Lil was then sent to hang for being a rebel sympathizer.
Maybe keep this under wraps until _The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes_ comes out, yeah?
@@eighthdoctor I mean, it was explained in the main trilogy, just not as in depth
@@eighthdoctor The book has been out, yeah?
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@@eighthdoctor my man the book has been out since 2020. Plus this isn’t revealing much important plot details. There’s muuuuuch more with these scenes trust.
it’s honestly so sad and devastating how so many things in these movies we can see today, like bombings of hospitals and propaganda etc 😞
The parallel between this movie and in real life Israel bombing hospitals because they claim there are "hamas tunnels" is just so insane to me. Free Palestine.
if there is one thing governments know how to do, it's involve innocent people in their search for terrorists 🥲
🍉❤ I haven't cried till now this comment broke me
I was just thinking of those same parallels myself. Well done.
Effie also ended up being one of my favourite characters from this series. She's iconic.
Right!? 🙌🙌
Her character arch is amazing.
A thing that doesnt come across as much in the films is that the peeta gale love triangle stuff actually represents to idealogical paths for Katniss. Peeta wants peace and Gale wants to burn everything to the ground and choosing one of the boys also ends up being a path to a different future for her. That only sorta kinda comes across in the films if you squint
Haha that would’ve been great had they really leaned into it
Absolutely! I really love that dimension of the relationship. It's hinted at in the next movie to (tiny spoiler), when gale tells peeta that she'll choose the one she can't survive without
The call back with Finnick never stops giving me chills. In the second movie, his joke about secrets and not dealing with anything “as common as money in years” was so easily dismissed as flirtatious. Then you get to this one and when he says secrets, it just hits so well. Chills every time.
You both are great! I only recently found your channel and binged through your videos. You guys have such a great dynamic!
I’m not sure if you already know, but in the books, Peeta was supposed to be the Mockingjay symbol, it just happened that Katniss was inspiring, easier to save, and they knew Peeta wouldn’t function without her.
Oooohhh interesting 🤔
Seeing Katniss at District 12 among the ruins and the bodies underneath, lack of resources, bombing of the hospitals, not so far off from what's happening in Gaza. Crazy how I watched this movie as entertainment a few years ago, but its so hard to watch in today's day and age. Susanne Collins had such a realistic take on what undergoing a genocide and revolution actually means, what people in power will do to stay in power and the sacrifices that comes with that.
i truly appreciate your epilepsy warning guys. i'm epileptic and i always look away at that scene and peek back here and there. i found that truly sweet, thank you.
Now you AND Prim have survived that scene!
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They are not cousins. Her family introduced him to the capital as her cousin because she was supposed to be in love with Peeta. When there are only a few tributes left in the game their families are interviewed as part of the Hunger Games show for the capital. As Katniss put it, Gale was too masculine, too mature to simply be a childhood friend so they introduced him as her cousin.
There was no triangle because she simply wasn’t interested in having a love interest. As she put it, she can’t think of anything other than how scared she is. She kisses to comfort or be comforted, not because she is sexually attracted to either of them. Their apparent competition for her affections was something in which she was not involved. There is no love triangle.
The studios definitely we’re trying to put a love triangle wear it didn’t belong
Within the book itself she gives off asexual vibes and only ends up with Peeta because she feel the safest around him and genuinely loves him, but she isnt sexually attracted to either of them in the books.
@Ashely56 but she did feel exactly sexualy attracted to Peeta on that beach and after, it's in the books
@@18shuh I dont remember that part but I havent read them since middle school so I'm probably forgetting that part. What book were they on a beach?
@@Ashely56catching fire
the love triangle isn’t really that big of an aspect in this story, they kinda just amped it up in the movies because it’s a young adult story and love triangles are really popular in young adult movies/books. also tbh i don’t think the movies spend that much time on the love triangle. also gale isn’t her cousin.
Yeah, this would be much better without the love triangle lol
@@PinkPopcast i agree! i have more to say about it lol but i don’t wanna spoil anything for you guys so i will be commenting again when you drop mockingjay part 2 haha
that fact that she was 16 in the first book and by the end of the last book she was repeating that she was 17 was probably the biggest shock I had when reading the books!!
I find it very ironic how they played up the love triangle with Gale in the movies but in the books it’s clear that Gale was never really an option. As Peeta gives Katniss hope for the future, reminds her that there’s good in other people through his actions, such as at 12 burning two loafs of bread and throwing it to her when she was starving despite knowing that his mother would hit him.
Katniss knew how survive but Peeta knew how to live.
I am a die hard Hunger Games fan and I totally respect that the dystopian genre isn’t your thing Benji. I respect even more that you’re still able to enjoy them and find the good in them despite not liking the genre. Most people these days will just totally hate on something and call it bad if they aren’t into that type of thing. And No one should be shitting on Benji for not absolutely LOVING the series.
Honestly we get in hot water a lot because viewers THINK we're like that, but it's very rare that Benji and I will exclusively hate on something. He even got me to like the first two Twilight movies. There is always care and love and skill that go into bringing a film to life and we can't help but respect that :) Thank you for enjoying our channel.
I never found the books particularly romantic. The romance is there as a subplot, but it’s not the basis of the plot like Twilight.
She wants Peeta to live so badly because for starters, she never wanted a revolution like the other people did. So, her being the face of the rebellion doesn't mean much to her especially if it's causing Peeta harm. Even if sacrificing Peeta is for the greater good she doesn't care. Her main goal has been to keep Peeta and Prim safe. Second, she loves Peeta and just genuinely believes he should live more than her as he represents everything good in the world. Katniss brings hope to all these people which is why she's the face of the rebellion, but Peeta is the one person that brings hope to Katniss.
wow this movie reminds me of nothing at all happening right at this moment in history at all
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It makes me cry now on such a deep level
Every time I return to Hunger Games, I get more sad because I feel like it just gets closer and closer to reality the longer time goes on. Maybe that's just age as well, but man. It's really, really rough
I didn't hate this movie being split in two, but I guess a 2h30' long movie with the best scenes of both would have been great. But it got really annoying a few years back when every studio was splitting movies that didn't need to. :(
I'm pretty sure Hunger Games or Harry Potter were first movies to start the trend.
@@mjm3091 yup Harry Potter was the one who started this, but that's the only exception I really liked because that meant 2 more hours of the Wizarding world for me, even if the 7th movie wasn't the best.
@@JordiVanderwaalyeah, Harry Potter, followed by Twilight😂 Thereafter, the hunger games, the maze runner, divergent, are all movies that followed that last movie split formula
This movie did a great job portraying Katniss’ desire to just protect those she loved and not be a piece in either side. Originally in the catching fire book Katniss actually just wants to run away with her loved ones and leave everything behind. Gale actually gets mad at her because she could do so much but doesn’t want to. It’s such a messed up thing to put on a 16 year old.
I think the third book is so tonally different (the beginning of the book compared to the end) that the two movies completely makes sense to me. It would have been way too rushed as one film. I saw this one like three times in theatres with different friend and family groups.
“It’s the things we love most that destroy us” 🔥🔥🔥🔥 what a chilling line. REMEMBER IT🙌🏻
The thing that they have in the books but not in the movies is how truley awful the capital is, the winners are often S trafficked and have to attend parties and essentially be slaves out to rich people that got crushes on them while they were televised being forced to kill and survive. So Finnick being crushed that Anne is in the capital and Hamish being an alcoholic makes a WHOLE lot more sense when you have that in mind. Also Joanna’s anger. Gale is not her cousin, it was a farce.
in the books peeta is highlighted as being very good with the crowds and speaking so when they constantly mention that he should have been the symbol its bc they believed hed have been better at convincing the masses (katniss low self esteem basically)
he was also just more considerate in katniss & haymich perspectives so they considered him to be the bedt of all of them. Therefore, he should live instead of them
I love this movie!!! It's so emotional, her monologues always make me cry! I actually really liked that the movie was split into two because I feel like we got more information, they were able to build more the world. Katniss wanted Peeta to be saved instead of her because for her he represents everything good in the world, he's pure, good of heart. Basically everything she thinks she isn't. I can't wait for the finale, both of these parts are so good, they never fail to make me cry. ❤
Same! There’s so much info it couldn’t be squashed together and heartfelt simultaneously. I think overall most audiences don’t like politics - they find it boring (Star Wars has the same complaints sometimes), but when depicting oppression, rebellion & the inevitable war they have to specify the political layout.
I completely agree! While i guess it's a matter of taste, it does sadden me to see how much some people dislike this movie...
I know you guys do this for entertainment and I'm so grateful for that but I find it impossible not to see the parallels to the world right now which makes this heavy.
Whether directly or indirectly though I'm so thankful for the reactions.
I fucking love the Hunger Games books because they focus so much on the individual human cost, trauma, and emotions of war. Brutal.
The origin of the hanging tree song is written by lucy gray baird in the ballad of songbirds and snakes book. In district 12, they had a section where “rebels” would be hung. The creepiest part was that the surrounding woods were full of mockingbirds that would repeat the sounds of the peoples screams as they died. Which just adds some more lore to its significance. Crazy shit.
“Hope prevails- life finds a way.”
Nah, Benji- that was a calling card from Snow.
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The Hunger Games trilogy was such a monumental film series in my childhood, and I'm so glad to see it has captivated you both as it did me. I love your videos
I was literally having a really bad day, crying pretty much all day. You guys literally made me smile for the first time today. You probably don’t even know it but you’re literally saving people with laughter. I wish you both a very successful and happy career ❤️
Thank you so much and I’m glad we could bring joy in your life :-)
I think my favorite scene in the entire franchise is the collective singing of “The Hanging Tree” and the blowing up of the dam. There’s something so impactful-
In the books, Katniss explains that The Hanging Tree is one of many songs she learned from her father when she was young, and she taught it to Prim. They would sing it together, oblivious to it's meaning, weaving 'necklaces of rope', aka minature nooses, and their mother was made uncomfortable about the practise. She worried it was a song they shouldn't sing in public, so she bade them to stop.
You asked what the original meaning of the Hanging Tree is, and im happy to say the prequel that comes out in a few days andwers that. You get the original meaning and to see the person who wrote the song.
We’re ready to see it!
Having read Mockingjay I don’t think they could have done that in one movie. I do think they could have added more from the books to the movies.
agreed, it would've felt so rushed because so much happens in that book
I have a dumb fan theory because they kept recasting the cat in each movie with a new cat that didn’t even look like the previous one. My theory is that Katniss was totally oblivious the cat to the point where she didn’t even realize that it wasn’t the same cat who approached her when she went back to district 12. So she brings a random cat to Prim who’s just glad to have any cat to keep her company in the dreary dungeon that’s district 13. So she doesn’t even say anything to Katniss, she just takes the cat and keeps her mouth shut.
I think to hard about stuff sometimes 😂
that's a fun theory 🤣
the events in this movie is a replica of what’s happening today. the propaganda, the bombing of hospitals it’s so sad
Watching it again, I don't think it's as bad of a movie as we all initially thought. There was a lot of character building (Effie for example) and there was an introduction to important concepts like propaganda in war. If you condensed part 1 and part 2 to one movie, you would miss out on a lot. I think we just hated it because going a year with a cliff hanger is tough.
They should have hired you guys to do the soundtrack for this movie fr if there’s one thing the hunger games is missing it’s chumbawamba and my heart will go on
The book has a darker theme to Peeta's warning, Katniss and everyone can hear Peeta getting beaten off camera after he warns them before they cut it and it lasts a few minutes its been a minute since I read the last book but there was his blood splattered on the camera too. MockingJay being split works because we barely got introduced to District 13 and its really supposed to be from Katniss POV since its her story, but Hollywood🤷♀️. Gale has never been related to Katniss, people in town just assumed they were because they looked the same. 1st book throughout. Benji it's okay that this is not your cup or tea, ❤ you and Rizzo away 😘.
So I haven't seen this question answered yet but her arrows are activated by her bow. It's a Beetee special invention ❤
Ooooh good to know lol thank you!
@PinkPopcast can't have the "Face of the Rebellion" blown up by one her own arrows 😅
Gale isn’t her actual cousin! In the books they explain the cousin bit is a ruse to explain why Gale is always around Katniss and her family. He isn’t even called “her cousin” until after she won her first hunger games because she is supposed to be in love with Peeta not Gale per the games.
Honestly I know the director said he’d rather not do two parts, I think two parts made so much sense - it really got the chance to explore the depth of the war, the things we missed like the Avoxes, and just all that stuff - also yes to getting a chance to explore the level of trauma
All of Finnicks story is just so heartbreaking
So you’re right and you’re wrong about the Gale cousin thing. I know the other comments pointed out it’s a made up story because with the whole star crossed lovers thing Gale being friends with Katniss just doesn’t work- HOWEVER. Gale was originally written as katniss’s cousin. Suzanne Collins’s publishers made her change it- and that’s how she chose to change it lol. So Gale being portrayed as her cousin is a nod to that.
Suzanne makes it clear Gale was never an option and Peeta was always endgame.
Actually in the book Effie only appears in the last scene you could say, Katniss had a makeup group who are the ones with her in 13. We find out that they are alive when they have to prepare her for the props, they had them in a prison because one of them stole a piece of bread, when Katniss finds out she gets furious but Gale tells her that she shouldn't care what happens to them because they are people from the Capitol and that is for me the final moment that cements my hate for Gale
Gale was her fake cousin as sort of a cover story for Katniss as to why she had another boy around her age that she was close to. I’m pretty sure the love triangle element exists because Suzanne was semi-forced to put it in in order to publish her books, she didn’t really want the love triangle element (if I’m remembering right)!
Gale isn’t her cousin, they just said he was as a cover story for why they’re so close when Katniss is supposed to be madly in love with Peeta
One thing they changed in the movies that I really liked is Effie being included more.
Yesss🙌🙌
THE STRIKE IS OVER! So happy to see the developments that have taken place because of it. 👏🏽
The books didn’t focus on the love triangles the way the Twilight movies did bc it was a movie about a young girl that happened to find herself as the leader of a rebellion and had the love triangle as a b plot. Twilight depended too much on the love triangle and tried to paint itself as a romance movie with action as the b plot
Opposites
OK, but Tubthumping by Chumbwumba is actually the perfect song to pair with this, because the band intentionally wrote it to be a working class anthem. Highly recommend looking up their history - it's a fascinating and entertaining story about one of the most truly punk bands of all time. Great reaction as always!
a lot of the reason katniss is so adamant about peeta being the one that lives is that she feels so incredibly indebted to him. Katniss and her family were on the verge of death when peeta gave her the bread. that was the moments when she decided to start hunting outside the fences of district 12. she also feels very guilty about peeta loosing his leg in 74th games. She was the one who tighten his tourniquet which did save his life but ultimately made him loose his leg. she only found out about his leg during their televised reunion after the games. He was also a large part of the reason both of them were able to make it out since he started the whole star-crossed lovers angle.
I remember I was in theaters with my sister watching this movie and I almost broke into tears when sung “hanging tree”
snow purposely left her victors home alone in 12 (even left his signature white rose for her) bc it’s THAT personal to him
Funny enough, I started reading the books because you guys said you wouldn’t 🤣 I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. I’ve read the first two I’ll probably start the mockingbird Thursday. In reading the book, for a movie adaptation 75-80% of the movie is in alignment with the books which is actually pretty good compared to other book adaptations I’ve read then watched. The book fleshes out each character (clearly) so you understand why Katniss fought so hard to get Peeta to win for Catching Fire.
What I’ve learnt over the years is to view movies (based on books) and books as a separate entity or you’ll get caught up in nitpicking that you really won’t enjoy the movie.
Yeah like I think of them in the same universe on alternate time lines
38:18 - important thing to know, this happened right after he won the games...he was 14 when he won 😐
Sorry for the bad English 😅
Your English is perfect! I forgot that he was 14, so messed up...
gale isn't her cousin, but the capitol pretends that he is in the books to make people like katniss/peeta as a couple more. also in the books katniss says that she and gale look very similar with their dark hair and eyes, so much so that people often assume they're related in some way, while their family members are blond with blue eyes
Please watch every sci-fi / fantasy YA book to movie adaptation 😂 divergent, the maze runner, Percy Jackson, the mortal instruments, uuuhhh Vampire Academy, and any others I’m missing 💀
The "That was a warning" line from Haymich always frustrated me because in the books Peeta's warning was already being cut off as he spoke it. All they heard in the books was "And you...thirteen...dead by morning" and everyone was confused until Haymich said that it was a warning
Haha that makes much more sense 😂
The problem with these movies is in order to sell the love triangle they upgraded Gale and downplayed Peeta. While the romance between Katniss and Peeta was a show they had to present it was actually real. However, you had a 17 year old who had big feelings she was having difficulty processing under a microscope being forced to be a distraction. At the end of Catching Fire Katniss says “I trusted him [Haymitch]. I put what was precious [Peeta] in Haymitch's hands and he has betrayed me.”
Gale was never an actual option in the book. He was friend zoned and portrayed as Katniss’ cousin so that her only friend being interviewed during the 74th Hunger Games wasn’t a good looking male. They were not actually cousins.
Peeta had rooted in Katniss’ heart with the bread that saved her and she kept tabs on him. In fact she was upset he was reaped after she had volunteered. Katniss also references several times their eyes would meet at school only to flit away from each other. I would argue if Katniss was the spark then Peeta was the air that allowed it to catch fire.
Peeta was not dead weight during the games in fact Peeta saved Katniss just as much (if not more) as Katniss saved Peeta. Katniss would not have survived without Peeta.
Haymitch and Katniss decide to save Peeta during the quarter quell because they view him has the better part of their trio and that they owed him not because of his leg amputation.
A sampling of Katniss thoughts on Peeta throughout the books:
***I reach out and take his hand.
“Well, he probably used up a lot of resources helping me knock you out,” I say mischievously.
“Yeah, about that,” says Peeta, entwining his fingers in mine. “Don’t try something like that again.”
“Or what?” I ask.
“Or . . . or . . .” He can’t think of anything good. “Just give me a minute.”
“What’s the problem?” I say with a grin.
“The problem is we’re both still alive. Which only reinforces the idea in your mind that you did the right thing,” says Peeta.
“I did do the right thing,” I say.
“No! Just don’t, Katniss!” His grip tightens, hurting my hand, and there’s real anger in his voice. “Don’t die for me. You won’t be doing me any favors. All right?”
I’m startled by his intensity but recognize an excellent opportunity for getting food, so I try to keep up. “Maybe I did it for myself, Peeta, did you ever think of that? Maybe you aren’t the only one who . . . who worries about . . . what it would be like if. . .”
I fumble. I’m not as smooth with words as Peeta. And while I was talking, the idea of actually losing Peeta hit me again and I realized how much I don’t want him to die. And it’s not about the sponsors. And it’s not about what will happen back home.
And it’s not just that I don’t want to be alone. It’s him. I do not want to lose the boy with the bread.
“If what, Katniss?” he says softly.
I wish I could pull the shutters closed, blocking out this moment from the prying eyes of Panem. Even if it means losing food. Whatever I’m feeling, it’s no one’s business but mine.
“That’s exactly the kind of topic Haymitch told me to steer clear of,” I say evasively, although Haymitch never said anything of the kind. In fact, he’s probably cursing me out right now for dropping the ball during such an emotionally charged moment. But Peeta somehow catches it.
“Then I’ll just have to fill in the blanks myself,” he says, and moves in to me.
This is the first kiss that we’re both fully aware of. Neither of us hobbled by sickness or pain or simply unconscious. Our lips neither burning with fever or icy cold. This is the first kiss where I actually feel stirring inside my chest. Warm and curious.
This is the first kiss that makes me want another.
***In stark contrast to two nights ago, when I felt Peeta was a million miles away, I'm struck by his immediacy now. As we settle in, he pulls my head down to use his arm as a pillow; the other rests protectively over me even when he goes to sleep. No one has held me like this in such a long time. Since my father died and I stopped trusting my mother, no one else's arms have made me feel this safe.
***Go to sleep," he says softly. His hand brushes the lose strands of my hair off my forehead. Unlike the staged kisses and caresses so far, this gesture seems natural and comforting. I don't want him to stop and he doesn't. He's still stroking my hair when I fall asleep.
***He manages to wake me and calm me down. Then he climbs into bed to hold me until I fall back to sleep. After that, I refuse the pills. But every night I let him into my bed. We manage the darkness as we did in the arena, wrapped in each other’s arms, guarding against dangers that can descend at any moment
***I wish Peeta were here to hold me, until I remember I'm not supposed to wish that anymore. I have chosen Gale and the rebellion, and a future with Peeta is the Capitol's design, not mine.
***So what should we do with our last few days?”
“I just want to spend every possible minute of the rest of my life with you,” Peete replies.
“Come on, then,” I say, pulling him into my room.
It feels like a luxury, sleeping with Peeta again. I didn’t realize until now how starved I’ve been for human closeness. For the feel of him beside me in the darkness.
***I look up into those blue eyes that no amount of dramatic makeup can make truly deadly and remember how, just a year ago, I was prepared to kill him. Convinced he was trying to kill me. Now everything is reversed. I’m determined to keep him alive, knowing the cost will be my own life, but the part of me that is not so brave as I could wish is glad that it’s Peeta, not Haymitch, beside me
***Peeta and I sit on the damp sand, facing away from each other, my right shoulder and hip pressed against his.
After a while I rest my head against his shoulder. Feel his hand caress my hair.
"Katniss... If you die, and I live, there's no life for me at all back in District Twelve. You're my whole life", he says. "I would never be happy again."
I start to object but he puts a finger to my lips. "It's different for you. I'm not sayin it wouldn't be hard. But there are other people who'd make your life worth living." ... "Your family needs you, Katniss", Peeta says.
My family. My mother. My sister. And my pretend cousin Gale. But Peeta's intension is clear. That Gale really is my family, or will be one day, if I live. That I'll marry him. So Peeta's giving me his life and Gale at the same time. To let me know I shouldn't ever have doubts about it.
Everithing. That's what Peeta wants me to take from him.
"No one really needs me", he says, and there's no self-pity in his voice. It's true his family doesen't need him. They will mourn him, as will a handful of friends. But they will get on. Even Haymitch, with the help of a lot of white liquor, will get on. I realize only one person will be damaged beyond repair if Peeta dies. Me.
"I do", I say. "I need you." He looks upset, takes a deep breath as if to begin a long argument, and that's no good, no good at all, because he'll start going on about Prim and my mother and everything and I'll just get confused. So before he can talk, I stop his lips with a kiss.
I feel that thing again. The thing I only felt once before. In the cave last year, when I was trying to get Haymitch to send us food. I kissed Peeta about a thousand times during those Games and after. But there was only one kiss that made me feel something stir deep inside. Only one that made me want more. But my head wound started bleeding and he made me lie down.
This time, there is nothing but us to interrupt us. And after a few attempts, Peeta gives up on talking. The sensation inside me grows warmer and spreads out from my chest, down through my body, out along my arms and legs, to the tips of my being. Instead of satisfying me, the kisses have the opposite effect, of making my need greater. I thought I was something of an expert on hunger, but this is an entirely new kind.
***As I drift off, I try to imagine that world, somewhere in the future, with no Games, no Capitol. A place like the meadow in the song I sang to Rue as she died. Where Peeta’s child could be safe.
***When I wake, I have a brief, delicious feeling of happiness that is somehow connected with Peeta.
***By late afternoon I lie with my head in Peeta’s lap making a crown of flowers while he fiddles with my hair claiming he is practicing knots. After awhile his hands go still.
“What?” I ask.
“I wish I could freeze this moment, right here, right now, and live in it forever,” he says.
Usually this sort of comment, the kind that hints his undying love for me, makes me feel guilty and awful. But I’m so relaxed and beyond worrying about a future I’ll never have, I just let the word slip out.
“Okay,” I say. I can hear the smile in his voice. “Then you’ll allow it?”
“I’ll allow it.
***When Peeta holds out his arms, I walk straight into them. It's the first time since they announced the Quarter Quell that he's offered me any sort of affection. He's been more like a very demanding trainer, always pushing, always insisting Haymitch and I run faster, eat more, know our enemy better. Lovers? Forget about that. He abandoned any pretense of even being my friend. I wrap my arms tightly around his neck before he can order me to do push-ups or something. Instead he pulls me in close and buries his face in my hair. Warmth radiates from the spot where his lips just touch my neck, slowly spreading through the rest of me. It feels so good, so impossibly good, that I know I will not be the first to let go.
***I like to watch his hands as he works, making a blank page bloom with strokes of ink, adding touches of color to our previously black and yellowish book. His face takes on a special look when he concentrates. His usual easy expression is replaced by something more intense and removed that suggests an entire world locked away inside him. I've seen flashes of this before: in the arena, or when he speaks to a crowd, or that time he shoved the Peacekeepers' guns away from me in District 11. I don't know quite what to make of it. I also become a little fixated on his eyelashes, which ordinarily you don't notice much because they're so blond. But up close, in the sunlight slanting in from the window, they're a light golden color and so long I don't see how they keep from getting all tangled up when he blinks.
***You're alive," I whisper, pressing my palms against my cheeks, feeling the smile that's so wide it must look like a grimace. Peeta's alive.
***Sometimes when I'm alone, I take the pearl from where it lives in my pocket and try to remember the boy with the bread, the strong arms that warded off nightmares on the train, the kisses in the arena.
***My mockingjay pin now lives with Cinna's outfit, but there's the gold locket and the silver parachute with the spile and Peeta's pearl. I knot the pearl into the corner of the parachute, bury it deep in the recesses of the bag, as if it's Peeta's life and no one can take it away as long as I guard it.
***It's impossible to be the Mockingjay. Impossible to complete even this one sentence. Because now I know that everything I say will be directly taken out on Peeta. Result in his torture. But not his death, no, nothing so merciful as that. Snow will ensure that his life is much more worse than death.
"Cut," I hear Cressida say quietly.
"What's wrong with her?" Plutarch says under his breath.
"She's figured out how Snow's using Peeta," says Finnick.
There's something like a collective sigh of regret from that semicircle of people spread out before me. Because I know this now. Because there will never be a way for me to not know this again. Because, beyond the military disadvantage losing a entails, I am broken.
Several sets of arms would embrace me. But in the end, the only person I truly want to comfort me is Haymitch, because he loves Peeta, too. I reach out for him and say something like his name and he's there, holding me and patting my back. "It's okay. It'll be okay, sweetheart." He sits me on a length of broken marble pillar and keeps an arm around me while I sob.
"I can't do this anymore," I say.
"I know," he says.
***I wrap my arms around his neck, feel his arms hesitate before they embrace me. Not as steady as they once were, but still warm and strong. A thousand moments surge through me. All the times these arms were my only refuge from the world. Perhaps not fully appreciated then, but so sweet in my memory, and now gone for ever.
***It's a long shot, it's suicide maybe, but I do the only thing I can think of. I lean in and kiss Peeta full on the mouth. His whole body starts shuddering, but I keep my lips pressed to his until I have to come up for air. My hands slide up his wrists to clasp his. "Don't let him take you from me."
Peeta's panting hard as he fights the nightmares raging his head. "No. I don't want to. . ."
I clench his hands to the point of pain. "Stay with me."
His pupils contract to pinpoints, dilate again rapidly, and then return to something resembling normalcy. "Always," he murmurs.
***I raise my left arm and twist my neck down to rip off the pill on my sleeve. Instead my teeth sink into flesh. I yank my head back in confusion to find myself looking into Peeta’s eyes, only now they hold my gaze. Blood runs from the teeth marks on the hand he clamped over my nightlock.
“Let me go!” I snarl at him, trying to wrest my arm from his grasp.
“I can’t,” he says.
***Peeta and I grow back together. There are still moments when he clutches the back of a chair and hangs on until the flashbacks are over. I wake screaming from nightmares of mutts and lost children. But his arms are there to comfort me. And eventually his lips. On the night I feel that thing again, the hunger that overtook me on the beach, I know this would have happened anyway. That what I need to survive is not Gale's fire, kindled with rage and hatred. I have plenty of fire myself. What I need is the dandelion in the spring. The bright yellow that means rebirth instead of destruction. The promise that life can go on, no matter how bad our losses. That it can be good again. And only Peeta can give me that. So after, when he whispers, "You love me. Real or not real?" I tell him, "Real.
As I was reading some of the comments, I realized that I don't really remember the books or the movies....I mean of course I remember the major plot points but after that....nothing. The book was suggested to me by a coworker I used to work with because I love the Harry Potter series. I ended up reading the first two books in time for the first movie and then getting Mockingjay when it came out in preparation of the last movies. And in truth I did enjoy the movies and I think I found them slightly sad and depressing. I'm not a big fan of dystopian books or movies and I have tried many times to watch/read them but I end up stopping halfway through. When I think about it now, it's probably because this type of world could exist and realizing that I'm far more sensitive then I like, it's honestly hard to watch something that could be real. Anyway, I always appreciate your reactions and how you two make me reflect on my own feelings about different movies.
That's so valid. sometimes we just need an escape
Also, Benji, totally understandable that you're not into Hunger Games. This series, while amazing, is BLEAK. And unlike a lot of the stuff I think you seem you dig, there is VERY little brevity especially from Catching Fire on...
😂😂 exactly, thank you!
I got goosebumps at the same time of the hanging tree song!
Meryl Streep was the villain in The Giver. In the book Peeta loses a leg after the games and gets a prosthetic.
Also, (sorry another comment) when they rescue Peeta Katniss has a whole internal monologue about what to say when she sees him, what he is going to say, if he is going to tell her that he loves her, if he is going to kiss her and other romantic things :( which makes everything even sadder
An important movie as this is, there are some things they cut/changed in the movie that I do wish they hadn't -
. the fact that they replaced the torture of Katniss's prep team by D13 (she found them starved, beaten & chained up in small room, covered in thier own excrement after they took & hid some extra bread) & how that drove a wedge between her & Gale (who couldn't wrap he's head around why she seemed to care about them so much when they're job was to make kids look pretty before sending them to litrually kill eachother for thier entrainment) & replaced it with Effie being silly which (though I do of course love Elizabeth Banks) just seems very out touch with what this story is supposed to be about
. Before Anne was taken to D13 Finick was much more mentally unstable in the begining of the last book then he seems in the movie, to the point that he ran up to Katniss & Boggs, wanting to go on thier journey to D12 only for them to point out that he was only in he's underwear which made him start laughing & doing a sexy pose before Katniss managed to distract him by telling him that Beetee had made a new trident for him to train with & then later, when they're in the bunkers of D13 waiting for the attack to end, he starts teaching Katniss how to make rope patterns with her fingers as a form of therapy (because he's from the fishing district)
this is a small detail from way back in the first or second book but I only just remembered so here you go now -
. Katniss realises that even after so much time has passed in the games none of the male tributes have any facial hair (though, unlike the girls, they do still have body hair) & she wonders what chemicals they doused their faces with to make that possible & after what we find out about Finnick (& by extention probably other victors as well) in this movie one has to wonder about the Capital's fixation on youth.
Gale is not her cousin in the books. That was just a rumor that was started because people knew that Gale and Katniss were always hanging around each other and they didn’t want to give people any reason to not trust Peeta and Katniss’s love story
Funny, you ask about the significance of the 'Hanging Tree' Song, you can find out in the new Hunger Games film The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. (not sponsored) LMAO
We’re so ready for it!
I remember watching the scene of Peeta trying to kill Katniss when they rescued him. To this day, is one of the most shocking scenes I've ever seen in my life. Great plot to me 👌🏻
After you finish this series please watch the Starving Games. It’s actually a published movie, perfect for reacting to and has all the inside jokes of the Hunger Games!😂
I'm so looking forward to this I loved this installment its honestly one of my favorites in the series. 😍😍❤️❤️💖💖
when they remixed jennifer lawrence’s the hanging tree and it went on radio… it fucking hit. idk what she was singing about but i was blasting that shit out of it. that and meltdown by stromae & lorde
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40:42 Benji would’ve been a great mockingjay Lmao the QUICKNESS of DELIVERY
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katniss never liked gale. imo she felt like she needed to like him out of guilt. she felt guilty of her feelings for peeta (that she didn’t realize were feelings).
The Hanging Tree song is something that actually happen in Snow's prequel.
You guys watching these makes me want to watch all the hunger games again. I just love the story and think it's so good, and might as well lol.
I really hope you will upload part 2 as soon as possible, I'm invested haha
I remember watching this movie in the theaters and was near tears when they started singing “Hanging Tree”
I literally commented the same thing on this channel 3 months ago. I’m losing my mind lol
18:53 I was fully waiting on a frozen siren song from Benji but you got me with titanic 🤣🤣
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I still think the most annoying part of the last two movies is how Julianne Moore pronounces Panem, it’s like she puts the emphasis in the wrong place. I cringe every time
Edit: just got to the end of your reaction and I’m so happy this bothers Rizzo too!
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14:45 Jennifer Lawrence acting as Katniss being a bad actress is a testament to how good an actress she is.
The actor who plays “petah”💀 also was in the FNAF movie he was the main role I believe I just wanted to let you know also LOVE YOUR VIDS SO MUCH ❤
The love triangle doesn’t translate well to the movies because, in the nicest way possible, Jennifer had no romantic chemistry with either actor.
Lol it wasn’t a prominent enough character motivation for her
maybe if one of them had been her sister...
I don't think it's necessarily a chemistry issue and more of a Jennifer Lawrence playing Katniss too well issue. Because Katniss refuses to show emotion ever, to the point where she doesn't even know what she's feeling half of the time outside of "keep Prim safe" and "try not to die". In the books this works because you can read her internal monologue. But in the movie she just looks super blank which means you don't really see what she's thinking when she's with either guy.
@@Manon-nk4quRight Katniss was deeply depressed and traumatized. And Jennifer played to that. To say they have no chemistry is crazy. Like those press junkets went viral for a reason. It’s just that for Katniss, she did not give a damn about romance or sex at all. It was a bottom tier concern and then these men in her life were like “do you like me? 🥺” She couldn’t deal with the drama of it all. She does like/love Peeta, it is part of the reason she is so desperate for him to live. But again there is just a complete disconnect for Katniss. Some people can find love in a hopeless place, other people find the place too hopeless for all that.
what i find crazy when rewatching dystopian movies especially ones like the hunger games, we always hear people say 'this is so crazy', 'how can this exist in real life' - and now here we are literally living in a world where there is a genocide occurring right nowww
I actually like that they split the final film into two parts. I think they could have done it in one, but really would have needed to have it be a three hour experience. There's just too much happening in the final book to adapt it into a single two hour movie and do it all justice. That said, I do think you definitely start to feel the drag in Mockingjay pt. 2, so the two full films definitely are a little bit too long for what they were working with.
Katniss plays the game, Peeta PLAYS the game lol.
He’s smarter and more useful than people give him credit for
He’s gooood lol
In the books the love story between Katniss and Peeta is way more evident. since the book is first person from katniss’s pov, it goes more in depth into her feelings and thoughts for peeta and she truly does care for peeta and that becomes evident in catching fire.
That definitely would’ve been nice to get a little bit more of her inner monologue
24:10 "It's like a frenzy begins" They really filmed that like a Twilight scene and thought I wouldn't notice😂
The intro💀 I’ll listen to that remix ngl
The Hunger Games is one of the best if not the best YA series I’ve ever seen