@brandondrummechanics may I suggest / ask to re-record the "drum throne height" video, you mention it in the beginning of multiple videos. But it was recorded 7 years ago, currently your videos look and sound so much nicer, it would be amazing if you record video with the same concepts but in new look. This video would be amazing reference for all new comers to your channel. Thanks for great work! Following your advice 🙏
this is great information. I have been struggling with soreness while playing for the past few years due to tight/weak muscles which I have been working towards fixing. This lead me to all of these questions about ergonomics which I don't find documented well enough. I hope more people see this
Man, this is great! I just started playing the drums a month ago, but my knees start aching not long after I start playing (bass drum side more than the other). I’ve had surgery on both my knees a long time ago, but I really feel like I’m just not positioned correctly. I’m 5’2” so it’s been difficult finding the right spot to be in. Oh and my seat is really wobbly at the top, so I just ordered a new one. Hopefully that helps too. Anyways, thanks so much! I love anatomy and drumming (: I clicked so fast when I seen this!
Great info Brandon! Thanks for your videos. After a decade of researching and gigging I became more sensitive to this topic especially after reading Anatomy of Drumming and learning from Dave Elitch. I am glad you are making videos on this subject. The amount of misinformation out there just blows my mind sometimes!
I like the closer hithat to as a play heal/toe on the bass drum and like the hi-hat close to give more room for the snare hand underneath it and less cross over. I sometimes think of getting a cable hat but the off set of the hats to pedal would only be about 2"
old video so I hope you see this. I just stumbled upon your channel and I love it! I.m a drum teacher and martial arts hobbyist , im super fascinated by body mechanics so this video was great. this was a great reference for my students! I find this is a topic that not a lot of teachers talk about. I have a drumstick theory, about using the stick that fits your hand best instead of choosing the stick for the music. Im very curious if the size and shape of different sticks effect your playing? In other words is there a specific stick size/weight that is optimal for your hands in both performance and health of the joints in your hands and fingers.
Would you please address the issue for shorter drummers (I'm 160 cm tall) who need to find a position with access to the pedals and toms, without over-reaching or over-extending, without having to be right on top of all the drums? I once thought it was going to be impossible to find a sweet spot for someone of my stature, but then saw Simon Philips (166 cm), and I think we can agree that he is pretty awesome. Any suggestions?
You are just about the same height as I am(5’3”). I keep my stool a little lower than normal which allows me to more a little further back so I’m not right on top of the drums. Also, if you haven’t already, stick with a 20 inch bass drum. Or even an 18 inch. This will allow you to set the tom’s lower. In turn,everything else will be lower. I also play with the longest sticks I can find to have a little more reach. Hope that helps a bit. I feel your struggles. lol.
Thanks, for answering my question in such a well described, intelligent manner. Right now, I " Think" anyway, that my distance is good, where as I'm working on my doubles on a single bass drum, working on both heel-toe, as well slide techniques. Also, when it comes to your mounted tom's, I would guess that ideally speaking, you don't want to have to bend at all at the waist in order to reach them? I'm trying to configure the height and distance of them, in order to get to a practical, working playing position. I've been playing a long time, haha, and your videos make tons of anatomical sense. I wish they were around when I was your age. Keep up the good work. So much of success is derived from great passion, and you got that. 😎
I hope this helps. You’ve got a lot of great questions. I’ll go back in my videos and watch all of the drum set ergonomically Contant. I believe the majority of what you’re asking has been covered but if you’re still feeling stuck please send me a message
When you work out at the gym, they say to take at least 24 hours off between muscle groups, so your body has time to repair them. Does this apply to the muscles needed to play drums? Should you practice the same things/focus on the same muscles every day until you reach your goals? Or should you rotate in different muscle exercises every day on some type of "split?"
I do heel up and heel down throughout my playing and I spend so much time playing, then scooting forward an inch, then playing, then scooting back a half an inch, then playing, then raising my throne slightly, then scooting, etc... Constantly trying to find the balance between taking torque off the leg and finding dorsiflexion with my ankle 😆
@@shadrums yea! Think about it... if you raise the pedal board angle you can sit a little further back. And vice-versa. Just make sure to also adjust beater angle aswell. I found playing around with my bass drum pedal settings, I can afford to sit in various positions. I tend to have to do this because of tight set ups at gigs... but it's something worth messing with other than strictly seat height and positioning.
I have degenerative disc disease and i cannot sit anywhere for a long time. What is the most efficient way to sit on the drums not messing too much with the lower back discs please?
Great question… honestly, there isn’t a specific height because DDD is unique to individuals. But the goal should be to 1) fine the most comfortable height 2) find a height where your lower back doesn’t move at all. I’ve been working with a few pros and it’s been very interesting to get them to work on double bass drum plan. Not because they need to. But you learn a lot about how your balancing yourself over your drum throne when both your legs are playing quick alternating strokes. I hope this helps just a little bit
@@brandondrummechanics thanks for the reply. Double bass is what irritates it the most. I play with ankle motion driving with my calves only. That way the body is always supported by the legs. I am never in mid air like when playing with hip flexor driven techniques. This is the most efficient for me. All in all death metal style messed me more, more mormal styles are less aggravating. Thanks
Thanks but I’m sure if thats true. I may have poorly described it so I apologize. In the example shown, the intention was to be from AP glenohumeral joint with the POA being the blue strap. Does that make sense? If I’m wrong but I am happy to learn.
I feel that there are 2 things at play here. First, can't anyone figure anything out for themselves? and, second, you over analyzed everything to death.
@brandondrummechanics may I suggest / ask to re-record the "drum throne height" video, you mention it in the beginning of multiple videos. But it was recorded 7 years ago, currently your videos look and sound so much nicer, it would be amazing if you record video with the same concepts but in new look. This video would be amazing reference for all new comers to your channel.
Thanks for great work! Following your advice 🙏
I'm the exact same with the hi-hat pedal and the double bass pedal being parallel. Thank you
Brandon tks for your content. Even after 23 years of playing I’m still uncomfortable at some positions and you helped me a lot. BR right from Brazil.
this is great information. I have been struggling with soreness while playing for the past few years due to tight/weak muscles which I have been working towards fixing. This lead me to all of these questions about ergonomics which I don't find documented well enough. I hope more people see this
Man, this is great! I just started playing the drums a month ago, but my knees start aching not long after I start playing (bass drum side more than the other). I’ve had surgery on both my knees a long time ago, but I really feel like I’m just not positioned correctly. I’m 5’2” so it’s been difficult finding the right spot to be in. Oh and my seat is really wobbly at the top, so I just ordered a new one. Hopefully that helps too. Anyways, thanks so much! I love anatomy and drumming (: I clicked so fast when I seen this!
Great info Brandon! Thanks for your videos. After a decade of researching and gigging I became more sensitive to this topic especially after reading Anatomy of Drumming and learning from Dave Elitch. I am glad you are making videos on this subject. The amount of misinformation out there just blows my mind sometimes!
My pleasure!
I like the closer hithat to as a play heal/toe on the bass drum and like the hi-hat close to give more room for the snare hand underneath it and less cross over. I sometimes think of getting a cable hat but the off set of the hats to pedal would only be about 2"
Amazing video! Thank you so much!
old video so I hope you see this. I just stumbled upon your channel and I love it! I.m a drum teacher and martial arts hobbyist , im super fascinated by body mechanics so this video was great. this was a great reference for my students! I find this is a topic that not a lot of teachers talk about. I have a drumstick theory, about using the stick that fits your hand best instead of choosing the stick for the music. Im very curious if the size and shape of different sticks effect your playing? In other words is there a specific stick size/weight that is optimal for your hands in both performance and health of the joints in your hands and fingers.
Would you please address the issue for shorter drummers (I'm 160 cm tall) who need to find a position with access to the pedals and toms, without over-reaching or over-extending, without having to be right on top of all the drums? I once thought it was going to be impossible to find a sweet spot for someone of my stature, but then saw Simon Philips (166 cm), and I think we can agree that he is pretty awesome. Any suggestions?
You are just about the same height as I am(5’3”). I keep my stool a little lower than normal which allows me to more a little further back so I’m not right on top of the drums. Also, if you haven’t already, stick with a 20 inch bass drum. Or even an 18 inch. This will allow you to set the tom’s lower. In turn,everything else will be lower. I also play with the longest sticks I can find to have a little more reach. Hope that helps a bit. I feel your struggles. lol.
Thanks, for answering my question in such a well described, intelligent manner. Right now, I " Think" anyway, that my distance is good, where as I'm working on my doubles on a single bass drum, working on both heel-toe, as well slide techniques. Also, when it comes to your mounted tom's, I would guess that ideally speaking, you don't want to have to bend at all at the waist in order to reach them? I'm trying to configure the height and distance of them, in order to get to a practical, working playing position. I've been playing a long time, haha, and your videos make tons of anatomical sense. I wish they were around when I was your age.
Keep up the good work. So much of success is derived from great passion, and you got that. 😎
I hope this helps. You’ve got a lot of great questions. I’ll go back in my videos and watch all of the drum set ergonomically Contant. I believe the majority of what you’re asking has been covered but if you’re still feeling stuck please send me a message
When you work out at the gym, they say to take at least 24 hours off between muscle groups, so your body has time to repair them. Does this apply to the muscles needed to play drums? Should you practice the same things/focus on the same muscles every day until you reach your goals? Or should you rotate in different muscle exercises every day on some type of "split?"
Great question! Send me an email so we can talk more about it. But I’ll definitely make a video about this. Great topic.
I do heel up and heel down throughout my playing and I spend so much time playing, then scooting forward an inch, then playing, then scooting back a half an inch, then playing, then raising my throne slightly, then scooting, etc... Constantly trying to find the balance between taking torque off the leg and finding dorsiflexion with my ankle 😆
Same
I find that my bass drum pedal board plays a big part in how far or close I sit. This might be the adjustment you need to make
@@jayburd4225 like the pedal board angle?
@@shadrums yea! Think about it... if you raise the pedal board angle you can sit a little further back. And vice-versa. Just make sure to also adjust beater angle aswell. I found playing around with my bass drum pedal settings, I can afford to sit in various positions. I tend to have to do this because of tight set ups at gigs... but it's something worth messing with other than strictly seat height and positioning.
I have degenerative disc disease and i cannot sit anywhere for a long time. What is the most efficient way to sit on the drums not messing too much with the lower back discs please?
Great question… honestly, there isn’t a specific height because DDD is unique to individuals. But the goal should be to 1) fine the most comfortable height 2) find a height where your lower back doesn’t move at all.
I’ve been working with a few pros and it’s been very interesting to get them to work on double bass drum plan. Not because they need to. But you learn a lot about how your balancing yourself over your drum throne when both your legs are playing quick alternating strokes.
I hope this helps just a little bit
@@brandondrummechanics thanks for the reply. Double bass is what irritates it the most. I play with ankle motion driving with my calves only. That way the body is always supported by the legs. I am never in mid air like when playing with hip flexor driven techniques. This is the most efficient for me. All in all death metal style messed me more, more mormal styles are less aggravating. Thanks
Hi Brandon! just wanted to ask if you did private consultations about drum ergonomics? thanks :))
Send me an email!
@@brandondrummechanics thanks! how do i find the email?
? :))
Hi Brandon just wanted to follow up and see where I find your email? thanks! @@brandondrummechanics
Thank you ❤🥁🇨🇦
Thanks for all the comments! I appreciate it
Is your snare a Paiste Spirit of 2002?
I wish man! Insane brass custom snare. 3mm rolled by LCD
Sorry to be nitpicky, but the demonstrated side raise is actually a bending moment and not torque moment.
Thanks but I’m sure if thats true. I may have poorly described it so I apologize. In the example shown, the intention was to be from AP glenohumeral joint with the POA being the blue strap. Does that make sense? If I’m wrong but I am happy to learn.
How dare you not pleasure us to a bicep flex
I feel that there are 2 things at play here. First, can't anyone figure anything out for themselves? and, second, you over analyzed everything to death.
Thanks for the feedback