Hans Niemann's Coach is a CONFESSED CHEATER
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2022
- VICE dropped an article today on Hans Niemann's now famous coach, Maxim Dlugy and his cheating issues with chess.com. The emails are included.
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I don't know why Hikaru isn't having children. He would be an excellent reader of bedtime stories.
I think he wouldn't care enough for his children.
😂
@@bingoelue12 chess comes first children come later
Hahahhaha
You need a girlfriend for that lol
Coach speaks for himself!
actually his students do
You guys should stop this 'speaks for itself ' stuff. It makes me laugh too much
250 per hour
@@dan6481 our response to your request will speak for itself
The engines speak for itself
"Always two, there are. No more. No less. A Master and an apprentice." - Yoda
😂😂😂
Holy shit underrated comment
@@Hazlius dude I know right😂 I saw this and I was like woah… this encapsulated the situation perfectly
LOL!!
Lmao
The engine speaks for the master that speaks for the apprentice that speaks for the chess that speaks for itself.
At the end we all speak for itself.
best comment i’ve ever seen
Wow!
This comment speaks for itself.
I am only 1200blitz.
Can't comprehend. Need some help to understand...
Please
Magnus knew all along. He was so many moves ahead of us, like always.
All these lame ass kid defending Hans on UA-cam think they know even a slightly comparable amount to Magnus. Magnus is not only a genius but also a humble person who loves the game of chess. It is beyond delusion to think Magnus would accuse anyone of cheating without sufficient evidence to suggest it was most likely true.
So magnus has evidence of hans cheating? I never saw him present one
@@kartikeyatiwari2502 having 10 games @ 100% accuracy and 23 above 90%.
"The engine speaks for itself"
You may have a problem with thinking critically. Please tell me how many GMs have that many games with perfect accuracy.
Magnus acting like one of those ultra smart characters in anime who know how something is going to end the moment it begins. And the thing is it almost looks like he's going to pull it off.
This comment section is pretty weird ngl
It's pretty crazy that his defense was "I didn't know I was cheating with engine suggestions, I thought I was cheating with human suggestions."
Yeah what a dumb argument. I swear if anyone buys that I would lose hope in humanity.
It's fairly common for high rated / titled players to coach people with collaborative games. I've seen it before on twitch as well, I don't think that many people realize this is a violation of fair play. Though, I doubt it matters for normal matches, since like Dlugy said, it only worses your ELO and stands as a way to instruct weaker players with the mistakes that they make. It's probably only a more notable issue because titled tuesday is a cash event.
Look up his wiki. He's a Wall Street gangster along with Kasparov.
I still can't buy the premise that a cell phone program can beat Super GMs.
@@npip99 ??? It’s common for people to crowdsource moves in a tournament?
So Magnus already knew something we didn't know. His hint of Dlugy name was so clever.
The name drop was an engine move. Especially now in the end game
so savage, Magnus be like im not calling you out but i would call out your coach which had cheated, then praised that he did a great job LMAO
Man I love that Hikaru is not even close to done with this guy. "Call me out in an interview and I'll make a video about you every day till New Year"
Lol
He’s probably gotten more views from this content than anything else he’s done. This scandal was even on Rogan. It would behoove all the chesstubers to ride this one until the wheels falls off
not really. because the truth is coming out piece by piece. hans gave him material. hans: fake rating, fake analysis, fake outrage. fake accent.
Hikaru literally eye rolled in a 2 months old video when someone called Hans a super GM 😂😂😂
He knew about cheating and was waiting for the day when shit finally hits the fan and he can pound down on the kid
Is he retired ? Why is he so obsessed with Hans this guy pops up on my TL 24/7 about Hans is he still active?
" if you join my class i will teach you how to play like an engine"
probably Maxim Dlugy
😂
play with*
Dlugy*
Sorry spell check
@@kavyagajera440 Dlugy - ✓
Play with - ❌
@@atomsam2676
Dlugy - *
play with - 🎄
First Magnus name drops this dude, and suddenly this all leaks out. It’s like Magnus and chesscom are playing chess and the rest of us are playing…. not as good chess.
I’m just impressed with Danny’s email writing skills and professionalism personally
This is probably a template he sends out daily
He's a CEO, you'd at least expect that.
CCO
@@SVP-uy9qb Wrong. Eric Allebest is CEO of Chesscom. Danny is the Chief Communications Officer - or essentially the head PR guy. Which is why he's the one communicating with everyone involved.
Same. Couldn't be more impressed.
if a person has said "it won't happen again" more than once about the same thing they did, believe that it will happen again. and again... and again... it almost sounds like Dlugy has an addiction to cheating in chess.
only one like on this comment, from Hikaru. Yeah, cheating in games is like an adiction.. its the coke users of the player base lol
and isnt he, or wasnt he a financial manager of some sort???
Such a classic example of "Sorry but only because I got caught. It wont happen again! *wink wink*"
Nudge nudge
Proceeds to have 2 more accounts closed to cheating.
@@charlespanache7047 "It won't happen a third time!"
@@chesscomsupport8689 "Third time's the charm!"
He is still traumatized, all these years on, by the awful incident when the dog ate his school homework.
250$ is kinda cheap considering he makes you a 2700 gm in no time
Lmaooo
You can save a lot of money if you learn morse code before taking on lessons. And bring lube.
You mean he helps you beat the world champion ☺️ Very cheap indeed
This comment makes you a 70 IQ in no time.
@@AnagramGinger Are talking about the anal beads gambit?
Funny that Dlugy's story of a student using a mobile device and calling out move suggestions while he was playing Titled Tuesday is exactly the same as how Niemann said it happened when he was 12 (in his Sinquefield interview with Alejandro), he said that he was playing Titled Tuesday and a friend was there calling out suggestions from a device and he was innocently playing the moves.
Learned from the best
Dlugy is teaching his students some questionable habits
Hans admitted to cheated in 2020 and people act like he did it when he was "just a kid" or "earlier in his career"
Yeah watching a 19 year old talk about cheating when he was 16 and younger like he’s 37 is laughable.
hans only admitted to cheating twice when he was caught, so you can be sure he cheated way more where he didnt get caught
not being tongue-in-cheek, being deadass I was bad at hiding it
cheating is one of the worst things you can do to someone please don't ever do it
He definitely cheated that time he played one of the Botez Hoes for a date. Easy ticket to poundtown.
@@rickross9829 I can think of a lot of worse things than cheating that you can do to someone but go off ig
@@yaboi772 are you saying murder is worse than cheating in chess?
Imagine blaming a room full of school children for cheating in a paid tournament. And then even offering up said kids name. Fuck me.
True. he’s a GM in chess, and a GM in being a f***wad.
"fuck me?". I wouldn't make promises I couldn't keep 👀
Yep. Dlugy has no morals. What a lowlife.
Blameshifting to his kid student. What a slimeball.
Well the “student” was probably Hans, so he was technically about 17 during the last tournament
Just like any cheater - Dlugy is trying to trickle the truth, admitting to a tiny portion of the cheating to get away with the rest. Seems like his student learned from him not only chess, and potentially cheating, but also this exact technique - "I've only cheated twice and only in online tournaments"
once was enough to know i cant trust him
Yup, at this point I've seen enough Wirtual and Karl Jobst videos on cheaters to recognize this patern.
@@suckieduckie and then, Dlugy got THIS run....
Danny Rensch is very professional and seems like a genuinely nice guy
Not really, you should see how he treats his co-commentators during live streams.
He "genuinely" doesn't want to get his company sued, and his ass fired.
Are you serious.? He actually hide the cheating.
The coach speaks for himself!
Even CNN talk about.
surprisingly, to seemingly all the twitter heroes, the greatest chess player of all time wasn't just salty that hans beat him in a tournament...
Insane to me that people ever assumed that.
Hans defenders on COPIUM tanks 🤣😂
It was these dumb teenagers that watched the "queen's gambit" and thought they understood what chess was all about.
Yes and because Dlugy was a FORMER coach of Hans with no established continued or recent communication between the two, we can finally conclude that Lord Magnus is right, once again.
@@matthewgarcia7654 When did he stop coaching Hans?
Imagine paying him $250 an hour and all he teaches you is how to use Stockfish lol.
😂😂😂 Yeah, I can do that and I'll only charge $200 an hour...
And then he blames you for his own cheating on titled Tuesday
To be fair, if he could assist you to cheat in high level OTB tournament it's a pretty good deal
Stockfish really is the best teacher.
@@mayawoflax2488 100 hours of "lessons" and youd pay him more than the whole tournament winnings.
Carlson has been playing Chess for YEARS, have won dozens of rounds, and have played with so many people he'd naturally know if one's movement is unusual.
Hans is toast. He is becoming a chess pariah and this will never go away.
He earned it.
From grandmaster to toastmaster: my journey
-by Hans Niemann, probably
I don’t know that he’s toast just yet. Nothing has been confirmed as of his recent (last 2-3 years) that he has been cheating. It certainly doesn’t look good for Hans. It would be sad if he has been cheating recently. Especially since he’s used his “get out of jail free” cards already. But if he has been cheating and is caught for a 3rd time, he gets what he deserves. I want to hope this is not the case. But I firmly believe he should be dealt with strictly if he has been cheating. Possibly a lifetime ban at this point.
@@Wargasm54 The problem is, he may even have gotten his GM title through dodgy wins. Imagine for a second what that means.
@@PHeMoX it means nothing if it can’t be proven. If it can, then he simply gets stripped of his title.
Dlugy in raspy hissing voice: “My young apprentice”
Watching that clip really makes me appreciate Hikaru's evolution in attitude.
A lot less fighting with chat and a lot more confidence and positive vibes!
Fake af
He should embrace his darkside
Ofc since it secures him the bag it's cool more or less
Lol dont fool yourself, Hikaru is just "positive" because he likes drama. He's a toxic person, and I would bet that Hans would sooner beat Magnus legitimately before Hikaru turns into a decent person
I love how to schizo nobodies with no pfp/avatar got triggered at this inmediately upon first glance
Time?
Lmao he is organising a bullying campaign against somebody he cannnot prove cheated so he makes money out of it. Nothing positive about that nasty attitude
The master taught the student well. Niemann is a fast learner.
As long as he isn't an obsessive learner, that beat Magnus after learning chess for 1 month... Lol
Someone said the student was “Hansfish Alphamann” and that shit has me dying 😂😂😂
Hans Alphazero...
If it smells like a fish, tastes like a fish, acts like a fish. Chances are it's a 🐟
... Is stockfish
It's safe to say if someone has been caught cheating once, they have cheated a lot more than once.
At this rate, it will soon turn out that the only person close to Hans who never cheated is his father, and the only reason for that is that his mother cheated on the paternity test
Fucking ouch man 😁😁
Just one word to say:LMFAO!!!
Bruhahaha
Maxim Dlugy is really something, blaming his students for cheating lol.
while taking $250/ hr
Finally someone explains the whole Dlugy situation after the name drop
Eric Hansen did days ago
There's a million videos explaining it
@@Rockedott Wow, that's many.
By someone I assume you mean Motherboard
@@aoibheall55 yes
Hans: Yes, I was using the beads, but I didn't know back then that their vibrations were signaling the best engine moves.
I normally play at a lower level when using the beads than I do without
😂😂😂😂😂
«i thought the moves were coming from other students of my teacher.»
I don't know why people would doubt one of the most dominant chess player in history over one 19 yr old confessed cheater.
People rather be wrong than admit they were fooled.
Innocent until proven guilty. He cheated as a kid. Everyone makes mistakes as a kid.
Perfect post
Hans is a cheater who got caught cheating online in his teenage years,he deserves his life to be ruined. Also I believe he cheated in the sinquefield cup cause the world chess champion thinks so. I don't care what happens to him cause I can raise my head high cause I haven't done anything wrong in my entire life and I can reddit peacefully knowing a cheat is caught red handed by my idol.
@@missycalimba he cheated 3 years ago... not like it was 30 years ago and he happened to make the same mistake 2 times as a kid let's be real here he knew damn well what he was doing
I've known cheaters existed, but I didn't know they threaten to sue you if you expose them.
There is no hard proof. Hans could very easily sue for defamation.
clearly never heard of billy mitchel
@@seansimpsizzletechnically he can sue, but 0 chance he wins. he needs to prove they were intentionally/very recklessly lying. Good luck with that lmao.
Review the Lance Armstrong episode in cycling. Also review the sordid history of Pete Rose in baseball…
@@seansimpsizzle sure…..get a enforcement on any judgment. Good luck
The Hans documentary is going to be crazy
Netflix already working on it at this point
Dlugy: "My students are *buzzing* with potential. It's the *right move* to put your children in my academy!"
My 1950 student is suggesting moves that have beat 7 gms in a row, nothing suspicious here.
Any detail story and link of your student name? And those gms he beat? Its unclear claim.
@@user-bj7um9uj6r pretty sure its a sarcastic reply to hans teachers inocent reply that his students cheated
I'm so glad Hikaru is putting this stuff out there. These are things I've known about (obviously in much less detail) and it's so frustrating seeing countless people talking out their arses who don't know any of this stuff. Thank you Hikaru. I know that you run the risk of getting flamed like everyone was going after Magnus but I really hope the tide is starting to turn on this scenario and people accept that Hans is at the very, very least, highly suspicious.
Can we at least agree Danny Rensch is like the kindest, most forgiving guy alive when it comes to what can only be considered bs explanations for cheating?! Wow.
danny is not the Boss fool
Because their business model is to have as many pros as possible. The idea of someone showing the site to their students possibly gets Danny hard.
Regular people do not get treated like that, that's where they bring down the hammer. And not even the fun Norwegian GM Hammer, just the ban hammer.
@@jamiedimond9419 Who’s the boss then, fool?
"We would like to give you a forth chance, please don't break our hearts again..."
Dlugy is like palpatine and hans is like vader.
Not good enough to be Vader. More like Palpatine and Maul?
More like Hans is Greedo and Magnus is Han Solo
Hans is Han Solo, Magnus is Carbonite.
Hans is a Jedi, Magnus is a Sith
@@nickhall7995 hahaha with the power of the engine? yeah i dont think so, magnus is jordan, hans is just a fad
So he's like "Okay, I was cheating, but my student was cheating MORE and I'll name him." Really shows someone who can't take responsibility for a situation that they as a teacher created.
Most likely, he's just plain cheating and blaming it on kids
Dlugy and Niemann seem to have brought the expression "depth of a move" into a whole new dimension.
Lol
Hans Niemann's coach to Hans everyday: I've taught you well, now take up the good grace
Not sure why this is so upvoted when "take up the good grace" makes literally zero sense.
@@vinchinzo594 Either a quote from a show that neither you or I have seen, or a bot up-dooting itself.
Weird
@@vinchinzo594 its sarcasm, take up the good grace as in take from me my cheating ways
Sith lord to apprentice
Whether or not they are cheating in a particular game, a known cheat has a psychological advantage. It's like being in a fist fight with someone carrying a knife, but assures you he won't use it. This is a big part of Magnus's reasoning I think, and an aspect the defenders of Hans never address.
I love that analogy. Especially with these waaaay to mild punishments for cheating in tournaments. It's essentially lucrative to get caught once or twice so you can use this knife threat in your further carreer.
Great way to put it. But also, always assume everyone is packing a weapon and just avoid fights, is the real sigma mindset.
Dlugy's legal threats against Magnus are hilarious. Living up to the stereotype
I'm not surprised tbh. Cheaters in such communities can either do that or lose their money/name.
It sucks to think that small guys are easily screwed by such threats and lawsuits.
now you know why Magnus was so careful to have all his ducks in a row. he knew the scum he was dealing with.
@@calamorta Tbh that's more due to the laws regarding lawsuits. If laws were more stringent regarding lawsuits, then lawsuits wouldn't be ruining people. Help change the laws.
15 yo account WTH
Oh, you're an ancient account.
It's a bit upsetting that Chesscom will allow a player to multiple chances to stop cheating because said person has won a title.
These champion/titled players should be held to a HIGHER standard than the average player.
As someone who has coached kids in a sports and chess, the fact that Dlugy was willing to 1) violate the rules by having his kids provide moves during Titled Tuesday, and 2) throw said kids under the bus when he gets caught is troubling. As a parent, I would not want my kids anywhere near this guy as a coach. Frankly, I don't buy his whole story. You simply do not have time to have several kids provide moves in a 3+1 game. Now, if it was 1 "kid" (perhaps named "Hans"?) and that kid was standing behind you with a phone running Stockfish and just telling you moves, sure.
Chat what move to play chat thanks cbat gm hikaru cheats every time
Hans is done, this just keeps getting worse and worse
Hans didnt cheat two times tho, he got caught twice..
failed to cheat twice
Can you prove he cheated more than twice? Or that he cheated over the board?
Now i cant wait to see how Levy is going to do mental gymnastics to defend the cheaters
Imagine if Magnus purposely played against Hans with specifically odd move sequences to see whether or not he's cheating. So Magnus didn't play very well bc he was playing 4D chess instead
That would be insanely bigbrain
i genuinely think he did this for a couple moves, that game was very out of the ordinary for Magnus in a lot of ways. And that's before you consider that nuclear streak he's been on.
That would be very big brain. He has already shown that he doesn’t care much about matches with Niemann with that 2 move game, so it makes sense that he would have tactically tried to expose Niemann with the first game against him.
It also makes sense because he has said in the email that he thought about leaving the Sinquefield tournament, so it clearly shows he has been thinking about what he should do in the tournament. I think this post-hoc reasoning really ties everything together.
Nah he just lost and played bad.
Imagine that to be true. That would be insane.
I remember the "bobbing with Dlugy" streams back in 2017 or so. Maxim was so good at spotting cheaters, it was incredible.
Something worth doing: investigate exactly where Maxim Dlugy physically was in some of Niemann's most suspicious recent games. If he was sitting somewhere in front of a computer logged in to a nice engine package each time ...
14:10 was one of the funniest things i ever heard in my life. he literally outed himself then went on to become more and more defensive of his behavior. Honestly its disgusting to see this
Kinda sounds like Trump TBH…
@@kineahora8736 more like Trudeau but I am Canadian so its all relative
@@tired5 yh sounds like both tbh
@@tired5 I wouldn't be surprised if you've never correctly done a single fact check free from bias
@@rickross9829 I wouldn’t be surprised if you never read anything.
"I was playing on my friend's computer"..."My brother installed cheats on my computer"... same lvl of excuses...
"It wasn't me who cheated I swear! It was one of my 1500-1900 rated students who I didn't notice had a phone and was giving me moves that were crushing GMs. I somehow didn't realise woops! I bet it was little Timmy, that boy must be stopped!"
I don't get it why it would make a difference if the student used a computer or not. It doesn't matter, if someone is suggesting you moves, it's cheating. Doesn't matter how strong the subject is.
I suppose the method of cheating matters so that security can be improved, and we can look into if Hans could have used said method against Magnus. I'm not sure though..
The most dog ate my homework explanation ever.
It literally doesn't matter who the kid was. You're their teacher, and you get fed moves you cannot comprehend, and you're not suss ? Come on. The fact he's trying to throw one of the kids under the bus is, as they'd say in scotland, disgosten
dlugy is lying
Tbf engine moves aren't really incomprehensible to GM level players. If you give a GM a really good move they can probably figure out pretty quickly why it's good. Of course, finding that good move on your own is a completely different story.
Like, if it wasn't for the 2020 incident, I could see giving Dlugy the benefit of the doubt and maybe he was telling the truth. But in 2020 he didn't even try giving a bs excuse.
16 yo account ....
However, the fact that he is prepared to sacrifice the kid with the engine suggests that it probably is a true story to some extent at least.
Magnus knew hans was i hoax. After two games on the beach M C realised that hans is around 2400. Suddenly he plays like a 2700 + player
Regardless of whether Hans cheated on his game with Magnus, it's over. I don't think his career will ever recover from this. The reputation of cheater would always follow him now. More players would probably refuse to play with him, and tournaments might stop inviting him. And.. he kind of deserves it. He did it to himself. I don't care if he admits to cheating when he was younger. Countless other young players never cheated, never even thought of cheating. Just because you're young, doesn't mean you get a pass, especially in sports where fairness and sportsmanship are paramount, especially in chess where so many of the top players start as child prodigies. Hans wrecked himself. And although he's catching so much flak, kudos to Magnus for staking his legacy on exposing this huge problem.
mioce bs
Magnus is looking out for the future of chess. Thanks to Hikaru for keeping us informed day by day.
Hans is the one actually looking out for the future of Chess. Upcoming players need to learn from Niemanns fantastic ability to speak to his chess pieces.
@@jonsnow6682 and you need to make a strong bond between you and the chess pieces
@@blazeehd6164 You just have to believe in the heart of the pawns
This is absurd. Whether Hans cheated or not it's clear the type of people these two are. Everyone who's ever played in any sport or competition knows the type: slippery, shady, totally unscrupulous and insufferable. Will go kicking and screaming the whole way as they are found out, gasping at the audacity of their accuser, clutching their pearls and claiming the moral high ground, only to admit in the end that they simply "wanted it more" and were willing to "do whatever it takes" while, predictably, regretting nothing. They look down on all the poor saps who play by the rules. They are smart, tactical, big brain alpha chads who don't spare a seconds thought for how their actions might degrade the integrity of the game they are so hell bent on winning.
I'm not in the chess world but I'll admit this drama is captivating. You only need to hear Hans' many accents to get a glimpse of his motivations. After seeing this video it's clear these two were meant for each other.
Yeah Hans seems like such a slime ball to me
They even had the same excuse for cheating on titled tuesday lol
@@Life-Sky Dlugy did a great job "coaching" hans, as Magnus stated.
Nicely written
Hikaru is really enjoying every moment milking this whole Hans-Magnus issue, and I love it! 😝
i've followed pro chess for over 30 years and its actually sad to see that the drama is more important than the game at this point to the new generation of fans.
@@ay3436 It's just that the drama is happening and we all are curious to see the outcome of it all. Do you know why? Because we are chess fans.
@@fahim.foysal Fan of the drama i say.
@@ay3436 I mean I am following chess for some time now and there was no drama for all this time. Why was I following it then?
If Magnus Carlsen is on the warpath, Hikaru is low key trying to nuke Hans😂
Low key? Or Loki? Isn’t Magnus the Norwegian one?🤣🤣
Thor & Loki vs Chess cheating… it’s chess Ragnarok!
@@kineahora8736 dfkm 😂😂😂
@@kineahora8736 that was impressive. Hope @Hikaru can get that on a video thumbnail. Both Thor Carlsen, & Loki Hikaru fighting together beating Hans.
@@kunalsingh4418 I guess Hans could be the Midgard serpent Jormungandr, but of course at Ragnarok Thor & Loki are on opposite sides-Loki is the father of Jormungandr, and Thor and Jormungandr kill each other…
Dlugy is speaking for Hans :)
Lol
Getting worse by the day for Neiman but still not 100% just waiting for that fatal blow to his reputation that seems inevitable at this point, but honestly this seems much needed considering how easily someone that puts their mind to it could cheat at chess thanks for the updates Hikaru
He didn’t cheat 🤦🏻♂️
@@tajneeley I pity your life in the future. You're gonna be very easily manipulated.
@@tajneeley this must be Hans in disguise 😂😂😂
The red flags individually don't mean a lot. But damn they're really adding up at this point.
@@1994mrmysteryman ...or you
How can anyone feel comfortable playing someone who has previously cheated. All the criticism Magnus has gotten over this now begins to seem somewhat unfair.
Listen, just because his coach was caught cheating, and then his coach admitted cheating, and then his coach was banned from formal competition, and then he was caught cheating, and then he was caught cheating a second time, then he was banned from the world's biggest chess site for undisclosed additional cheating, doesn't mean he cheated THIS time!
chesscom anticheating capabilities is indeed incredible, this whole situation is wow
Man stuff is not looking good for Niemann. This was hilarious that you played Dulgy back in 2020. So glad that game was on the clips channel for us to watch.
What's "man stuff"?
@@ChocolateMilk.. Punctuation is important
Dlugy passed the blame onto one of his students, this guy sounds like a real winner.
Maxim is getting inputs from his 1500 to 1900 players that are beating other top players and he doesn't think anything suspicious? Very odd...
I’m still amazed about how arguably the best chess player to ever exist suspects a CONFIRMED CHEATER of cheating in a game and everyone just jumps to the conclusion that he must be salty for losing. If it were possible for Fischer to be in Magnus’ position givin his goat status you guys would be all over his knob in agreement.
Exactly. So many punks like Maurice Ashley etc. Maybe his nationality has something to do with it? Being American and young.
Wow you actually snuck the word knob in there
Goat who?
The thing is. None of these are proof hand cheated in this situation. Is it likely? Maybe. But is it fair to convict someone without sufficient evidence? No. Even if they have done it before.
The whole reason it’s like this, is this is Hans life, his career. And if we prevent him from playing and are wrong.. it’s quite the injustice.
Also, the majority agreed with Magnus that Hans is cheating look at all the gms and chats that made them interview Hans, but his silence made it a but suspicious, why? Because he was unwilling to confirm until later. Which he has finally done affirming his stance, where even more people are believing Magnus.
But until Hans is caught, or the evidence reaches in irrefutable level. It’s not really right to prevent him from participating.
Hikaru’s “Oh No” gets me every time
Oh no Hans' engine
Hans:"My coach speaks for himself"...not me😂
Lesson: Never confess.
Better lesson: Never cheat.
Untill you get caught
Be better so u dont have to cheat/confess
Once a cheater you should never in any circustance be able to play top chess players ever. That should be a strict law.
Yeah not only does it affect the opponent’s mentality of which is a huge detriment to their game but also cheater.
Nah... Tbh i also was cheating a bit in online chess and honestely i cannot blame anyone for doing it... Ofc its a very different thing if done in a top game or a "real" chess game. But cheating once or twice in an online match when you are young should be forgivable. I stopped it because i saw that i wont improve if i only cheat and its not so much fun, i mainly used it for ragecheating against enemies where i was thinking they won "undeserved".
Lol you should juat be banned jakob.. just cheaters say cheating isnt a big thing. But it is.
Nah You are dumb and you do stupid things in your teenage years and that‘s good. Testing out your boundaries helps you understand them. I think there should be a difference between kids and adults cheating. If an adult cheats, I understand your point but if a kid cheats they should be given a second chance, after a temporary ban so they can learn from it. If they dont, bye
Jakob You’re a CHEATER, shame on you! Nobody would like to face you as an „opponent“ if they knew what you’re doing. You are essentially cheating on yourself by even defending your mistakes.
If this teaches anything it’s that cheaters will always deny till you expose and corner them, then they’ll fully admit and try to compromise no matter how humiliated they look. Then they go back to cheating again lmaoooo
“If I had this gadget I would be killing people left and right, and nobody would know. This is the real danger, because if a 2600 player has this thing, he knows exactly how to behave, he knows exactly when to think, and he doesn’t to use it more than four times during a game. That’s plenty to destroy anyone. At the critical junction you switch it on and find out which way do I go: oh, this little nuance I didn’t see, okay, fine, boom, goodbye! That’s it.” - Maxim Dlugy, in a 2013 interview on how he caught a cheater the previous year.
Kind of aged like milk with all that’s going on didn’t it.
Plot twist the student helping Delugy was Hans Niemann
Dlugy and Hans both got caught cheating.
Cheaters get better at cheating.
Hans is the new prototype of the cheating system.
Hans 100%
Breaking news:Hans is also a confessed cheater. Last time was just 3 years ago
*wink wink*
last time he was caught
That's not news at all. Well known. At least by anyone not sticking their head in the sand.
I’m so glad Magnus is calling this out. This is like the Tour de France. So much freaking cheating.
Plot twist...it was Hans that taught Maxime how to cheat.
how does this keep getting worse for niemann? Every time I think we've reached the bottom, it just falls out and theres just more.
inb4 Hans defenders: "tHeReS sTiLl nO eVidEnCe, MaGnUs iS a SoRe LoSeR"
what evidence ?
well there still is no evidence as far as i know, so he shouldn't receive any sanction. would be naive to believe hans though with the info we have
Reminds me of: "Russia didn't invade Ukraine, it's NATO's fault".
@@soniablanche5672 Actually there is evidence, some 100% precision games and 90% precision, watch the other Videos on this topic.
But it was NATO's fault. NATO was using their puppet Zelensky to impoverish the Ukrainian people and militarize the Russian border.
Got my LIKE right away by starting off with the drama. A man of the people
The thing is hans didn't cheat 2 times he got caught 2 times think about it its so deep
The deep??
@@mrfool3545 Deep thoughts with the Deep.
The amount of Hans bots in the comments section is insane
Thank you Hikaru for covering this.
You are handling it very professionally, focusing on the fact, not making a clown show out of it and without adding inappropriate rumors to the discord.
Really?
Just remember, according to the numbers, Hans is the greatest player of all time
In just 3 years the number overtook the greatest player of all time which takes 10 - 20 years...stunning impressive!
those darned kids trolled me by giving me engine moves
God damn I've become a huge fan of Hikaru over the last couple of years.
don't idolize him. he's funny and I like his content but he's not a good person right now. He's had his own scandals and he still hasn't seemed to learn from them.
@@Tsundemo what is hikarus scandal?
Me too ❤️
@@Tsundemo Excuse me, where did I idolize him? I don't care that he is flawed, show me a person who isn't? And a person who goes around judging who is and isn't a good person is not a person I'm inclined to listen too.
In short, keep your preaching to yourself, I'm not interested.
He is probably referring to the drama about fist fighting, and a label as a toxic GM by some other people who believe Hikaru is using his large fanbase as a shield or something to that effect.
This is becoming ridiculous, with cheating becoming harder and harder to detect (I'm almost sure they only catch the bad cheaters online there has to be some that get away with it if they are doing it discreetly) there shouldn't even be a second chance anymore if the cheater is of legal age.
As someone who writes rejection emails on the daily, Danny's emails were worded really well and it turned me on a little.
All this pretty suspicious stuff happening from an entire camp of known repeated cheaters and there's still people out there going wHeRe'S tHe EviDeNcE
You're confusing suspicion with evidence
@@wicked5999 Hans is a proven cheater. Chess doesn't need him, he should be blackballed from competing in any tournaments along with anyone else that gets caught cheating even once, nevermind numerous times.
@@wicked5999
No. You people redefine evidence. Circumstantial evidence is still very much evidence. There is mountains of circumstantial evidence.
@@donquixote8462 bruh I live near the store that was robbed, so that's evidence on me?
There's something important I think they haven't asked Hans Niemann. He has admitted to have cheated twice. But he didn't say which games they were. If Hans did cheat in 2 games as he has admitted, Hans can name those 2 games. His memory is very good i saw in old interviews, such as Youth World Championship 2019, so this can't be a problem. If there are more than 2 games in which he did cheat he will also know them. If the cheating was more intense then he did lie but will nevertheless be able to remember in which tournaments he did cheat. It will not be pleasant for him to name the games where he did cheat but I think it will help to explore statistics in the games of Hans.
Hook him up to a polygraph....
@@dexio8601 give him the truth serum
@@streetchronicles9025 🤣
I don’t think he was referring to just two games when he admitted to cheating twice… he was saying that he cheated on two separate occasions, over a period of time. Once was a cash tournament and the other time was over the course of a day or few days and he cheated to level up his account to play against IM’s and GM’s. But even if I’m right in my interpretation, no doubt he can still remember the dates and/or tournament(s)
@@dexio8601 The Klingon mind probe!