Hans’ Coach Thinks He is Magnus’ Equal??
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2022
- In an interview with Der Speigel, Maxim Dlugy, infamous now for being Hans Niemann's Mentor as well as a two-time cheater on chess.com (allegedly), claims he played a match with Magnus and he's basically he's equal.
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Took Dlugi 3 weeks before answering recent cheating allegations so he can "weigh his options" , but only 7 minutes to admit cheating in an email when he was caught. Makes sense
Dlugi reminds me of that dodgy investment banker Mark Baum met in Vegas in "the big short" movie. After meeting him Baum said: "Short everything this guy ever touched".
Hes filing lawsuits. Relax
@@omardevonlittle3817 Dlugi vs the world🤣
Thats the difference between private and public. Ofcourse he needs more time to formulate a response when the whole world is listening
@@MrBorndd There is nothing private about being suspended from events and/or having your account closed with in either case a fair play tag anyone can see permanently attached on your account (closed or otherwise). The only thing that was private was his admission he cheated. Which took 7 minutes for an innocent person to acknowledge? Probably not even 2 minutes if you count the time it took him to write the response actually. Nah... It took me longer to consider what you said and respond to you man. Cmon
Fun fact: in German “the lie” means
“Die Lüge“
Dlugey
Oh nice, wär mir nicht aufgefallen xD
in american slang, a loogey is a a glob of snotty spit... as in "i hoched a loogey" (hoched means throw)
däär schbiegl
"even their language is exposing me!" 😱😱
The rest of the side was even in German: ,,Diskutieren sie mit"
A classical player would think for many hours before responding, a blitz player responds almost instantly... blunders can be expected
I think it was the same students advice to respond after 7 minutes 😂😂😂😂
..7mins, 7hours, 7days, is that more hard evidence again, you people must think everyone thinks like you do and if they don’t then “it’s sus”, pathetic
Trying to explain and teach with a blitz game makes no sense, as there isn't enough time to do that. He's obviously lying somehow.
"He often behaves obnoxiously" .. "It brought tears to my eyes." Dlugy has warm fuzzies for Hans because he sees himself in him.
...literally or?
15:38 Fun fact, I went back and watched Magnus interview and he did in fact, refer to Dlugy as a mentor, not coach.
The word he used isn't the point. He was accusing hans of cheating via association with another cheater.
@@alicepbg2042 I suggest you watch that part again. Dlugy gets upset when Magnus describes him as Hans mentor, but here in this interview clearly says that he is a mentor, not a coach. It's clear as daylight, stop defending what's in defendable.
@@MrBalor89 when Magnus called him Hans mentor it was in the context of cheating. Is this wrong?
Delugy got upset that Carlsen referred to him as a coach to Hans, which Carlsen never did. Is this wrong?
@@alicepbg2042 Magnus implied that confessed-cheater Hans was a cheater by mentioning his self-proclaimed "mentor" (and confessed-cheater) Dlugy.
Dlugy has been so unhinged it actually flipped me from being a skeptic to being rather convinced high level cheating is occurring. This is very concerning.
me too.
Still, he sounds so full of himself. If you keep let him speak, he'll say that he invented chess.
Hikaru?
I see where Hans picked up his arrogance from
@@gwh0 no lol, dlugy who said he is magnus's equal
lots of good players are like that though. I think such a mental build helps you push through the mountain of work needed to become good. a lot of otherwise negative character traits are beneficial for surviving chess training.
@@babstra55 it also motivates you to cheat
Forget the cheating, I think Dlugy actually needs help.
Maximus delusion
😂🤣😂 none of this is ever mentioned before that’s what’s amazing
People with a personality disorder like what he seems to have rarely accept help even if available
@@gorilaz0n wdym? He accepted help from his students without hesitation 🤣
@@alekhinesgun9997 10/10, I chuckled.
I wrote the LSAT and had a few of the students I tutor around me while I wrote the test so they could see what a law genius writing the LSAT looks like. They were of course much dumber in legal matters than I am. Some of them were yelling out answers to the questions I was working on and because they're dumber than me it's not cheating. Some of their answers ended up being good so those were the answers I wrote, which is definitely not cheating because they're dumber than me. I did not know that one of the students was looking up the answers online with a laptop or smart phone, even though I only chose that student's answers over and over again. Now I have to be called a cheater for the rest of my life
your case sounds watertight, now go public with it and tell everyone, this *is* legal advice :D
Actually good explanation of why it sounds so ridiculous
The reason why this analogy doesn't work is because the lsat questions are multiple choice. The answer is guaranteed to be there and a guess for each question would be correct 20% of the time. This is not the same in chess. There are much more moves available. Often times in chess, the computer engine moves are not considered by grandmasters since they are "not human" moves. Even if they are regular grandmaster moves, a similar distinction can be made to show that the average low level chess player wouldn't generally come up with those moves.
"I consulted with three law firms. Some are very expensive and powerful, and extremely knowledgeable about this issue. One piece of advice was to make my position public."
Bruh. Ain't no way. Name the law firm so I can be sure to never use their services.
Law firm did not know chess world has a Hikaru that will react to everything dlugy posts. Dlugy should've known better though.
"One piece of advice" = "Here are your options. You can shut up, and the damage will be done but it won't get worse. You can go public and hope to mitigate the damage, but it will almost certainly keep it in the forefront of people's minds and convince no one. Much worse. Or you can pay us a bunch of money to go to court, and you will be infamous forever. Your choice, keep us posted."
@@darkarima A scumbag lawfirm might take the case to milk Dlugy, but he has no claim that could survive a motion to dismiss. He's huffing and puffing.
lol the first thing law firms say on any case is to keep your mouth shut, he hasn't spoken to any of them :D
Maxim Dlugy: Chess grandmaster, teacher, professional clown
Dlugy's interview is more entertaining than any chess game he has ever played.
Dlugy's doing himself a disservice. He's not equal to Magnus, he's equal to Stockfish.
No he just mentors in butt techniques.
Hans Beadmann will always have a job as an arbiter at the TCEC.
15:37
I've just double-checked.
Magnus: "I think his mentor, Maxim Dlugy, must be doing a great job."
unlike Dlugy, Magnus has chosen his words carefully.
21:40 Goodluck on your fight Hikaru
"I have the greatest respect for Magnus"
Bro you just said 'something very bad happened in his head' 😂
"One piece of advice was to make my position public" ... that is the LAST thing any lawyer would recommend their client to do in cases like this.
That is the advice almost any lawyer would give you, but in the age of social media it isn't always correct. Sometimes a cash-strapped plaintiff or defendant with a just cause is better off publicising their woes on social media and crowdfunding their lawsuit.
Of course this generally relies on actually having a good case, so it doesn't apply to Dlugy.
Dlugy is extremely manipulative. You have Magnus’ side arguing with facts and Hans’ side arguing with spin.
So far Magnus Carlsen has not presented any facts other than that Hans cheated online which Hans admitted to before Magnus's player
@@seed869 theres nothing magnus can do he doesnt have any secret knowledge, but hes the best in the world and can intuitively tell if you're a cheater
Dude are you even paying attention? Magnus isnt arguing with facts. Withdrawimg from that game with no evidence of Hans cheating OTB was BS. Magnus was butthurt.
@@canadamoose Lol I guess you haven't studied any very complex math or science field
@@hexrisk oh yea that makes a lot of sense thats why magnus has a deep history of constantly withdrawing after losses to young prodigies, cause he gets butthurt
Dlugy is conducting one of the greatest self-owns I've ever seen.
..sad weak logic
Hans and Dlugy get attacked by the entirety of the internet.
Hikaru: I just don't understand why his coach wants to stay anonymous
Insight into the thought process of a chess genius.
Dlugy sticking to the lie as all cheaters do.
I find it extremely funny that Dlugy sees himself to be an equal to Magnus when it comes to chess.
The man clearly has some serious psychological issues.
I already suspected he was a narcissist from his prior media statements but this pretty much confirms it for me. Not to mention, it would go a long way toward explaining the cheating itself as well as the blustering, indignant response to a true accusation.
If you youtube Traits Of Narcissists. It Becomes Clearer.
I am also equel in chess compared to Magnus... well at least while my 16 core 4ghz cpu runs Stockfish15 on my second monitor :-)
Well Magnus never beat Dlugy in a game before so Dlugy is actually better than Magnus.
@@itsmesky3545 yeah Magnus didnt beat me either...so I am better than him too...
Duda broke Magnus' streak of over 100 wins so following that logic he should be twice as butthurt about him
"He reminded me of Anatoly Karpov, whom I once coached." Huh? Karpov was world champion when Maxim was 9 years old...
Lmao
He's implying he's a time traveler.
According to his wiki page, Dlugy was a campaign manager for Karpov's election as local FIDE president in some city in Siberia. I assume that's what he's referring to, but I agree he makes it sound as though he taught the man chess. Total narcissist.
@@AliRadicali he wrote his own wiki dude
@@j.w.213 He may well have, but it doesn't matter. Even if we take it as the gospel truth, describing his role as campaign manager in some minor election for a symbolic role in FIDE as "coaching Karpov" is ridiculous and narcissistic.
But yes, he probably wasn't handing out flyers and putting up posters in Siberia.
This 'cheating online isn't the same as cheating over the board' mentality is so ridiculous. It's like saying "I only sold heroin online, never in person!"
Not really. Cheating online has such a low barrier of entry it only takes 5 seconds to make a mistake. Cheating otb is more personal (on a computer you just think about points instead of your opponent), and takes a large conscious effort to achieve, which is a lot harder to do without realizing the gravity of what you're doing.
Not a good comparison because selling in real life is easily done, the OTB cheating still remains very vague.
If that's the case then Magnus is as bad as an otb cheater since he took advice on a move from another gm during an online event
@@lukasg4807 I agree. Over the Board tournaments have different atmosphere and you have to travel and and arrive at particular time and follow regulations and all and online is literally done from your home. BUT IF THERE IS FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY INVOLVED (Say above 100$), I THINK BOTH ARE EQUALLY IMPORTANT EVENTS WHERE FAIR PLAY SHOULD BE MONITORED CAUTIOUSLY.
Brainless comparison but I get what your little brain if you even have one, is trying to say
I guess you could say he is a bit 'Dlugyional'
You get a like and a 'Badum tss'
Because he got caught with his Hans in the cookie jar.
Making fun of Dlugy is just too easy
Maxim’s reasons look totally ridiculous from a non chess players perspective (me). I can only imagine what the intelligent chess community think about it
When you know chess, it becomes even more ridiculous. The whole student story makes zero sense, like 0 logic 0 probability
@@brandonovich6063 I work in the probability field. Zero to me too
Dlugy is clearly both a cheater and a liar.
He is not to be trusted at all.
Most likely he has cheated much more than he has been caught for.
They need tons of proofs to accuse a player for cheating and I am sure they have suspected him cheating lots of other times as well.
That’s what a lot of people forget. Yes you can only nail people for what they’re concretely caught doing, but when you find a large pool of proven instances of cheating, it’s extremely unlikely that you’ve found EVERYTHING…
Yep, with serial cheaters it's like with serial murderers. You are never going to catch all their crimes, but you get them for the once you can and use that pressure to make them admit to more. Definitely looks like Dlugy has no qualms cheating and lying for his gain and considering he has been Hans' mentor since he was pretty young it really does not reflect well on Hans.
@@LordKeram He's probably the one who trained Hans in the beads technique lol.
Wouldn't having others shouting out possible moves during an online event be cheating whether or not they were using an engine?
Yes, but as he said they were 1500 and he has a rating of 2500, thats why he didnt "consider it cheating".
@@aleks_moldi lol, love him
Literally a clip of magnus getting a move from someone in the same room while he was streaming.
@@hexrisk Magnus resigned right after that because he knew it was wrong. Fact checked.
@Hex: Risk Way to just completely change the subject after getting fact checked 🤡🤡
What if student who recommended the moves was hans itself
the engine speaks for itself
at this point I think we can safely drop the "what if".
Can't blame him for admitting within
7 mins, may be the kids were shouting out the answer to the email 😂😂😂
I'm a simple man. I see Hans Niemann Hikaru video, I click
He stopped covering Hans cause he's winning now, top 🐀 behavior
@@deathbombs what do you mean?
@@deathbombs true Hikaru is probably the one that actually cheats and he’s trying so hard to pin it on others
@@chigwom7894 yeah ofcourse have you noticed he always looks at the roof whenever he plays. Probably has stockfish on the roof
@@deathbombs Literally posted a hans video yesterday...
Tears in the eyes speak for themselves.
If you are feeling low on self esteem, in 7 minutes Dlugy will prove that you are smarter than a grand master
Dlugy's drugs speak for itself
poor poor Hans ... he cheats in a game or two or perhaps 100 or more and now people accuse him of being a cheater and big bad Magnus and the other super GMs don't feel comfortable playing against him.
I feel like those tabloids could get sued for saying Magnus implied Dlugy cheating. He never did.
The more this Dlugy guy talks, the more slimy he seems. If he was smart he'd keep quiet.
Met Hans when he was 11, then Hans gets caught cheating at 12? "He's the most interesting talent in mainstream chess" but when Hans' mother asked him for guidance he wasn't interested? And as Hikaru noted, neither Dlugy nor Hans want to say who his "real" coach is, which is just bizarre (unless ofc there is no "real" coach and it's just Dlugy, then it makes sense).
I suspect Dlugy corrupted Hans. Maybe in more ways than one, but uh, "If I speak I'm in big trouble"
Hikaru’s comments on Niemann suing at about 21:00 aged like milk, and it's only been two days since this was posted. Haha damn.
Haha.. Hikaru couldn't see enough moves ahead this time
That editors note is hilarious
22:10 ain't you the one who acused Supi of cheating without any proof after being beated by him?
When you have stockfish in your as** you can clearly tell if your opponent is cheating too.
@@TONAL03 touch grass
22:39 If you heard a noise outside your home at this point in the video, it was the sound of thousands of screenwriters jumping up at the same instant to write down a treatment of this story.
Hikaru gets sued and is suddenly very silent...
Isn't that to be expected though? He probably must stay silent until lawyers have been consulted. Probably even later to keep losing risks minimal even if those risks are small.
I have the solution!! Hans used Hikarus cheat code and looked up at the ceiling. Got him
I wonder how all of this will end
It will never end
21:38 24 hours later [curb your enthusiasm song plays]
where at the point where only one thing can fix everything in the chess world
a epic rap battle, hikaru and sunil vs hans and maxim
Oooooh. Nice. Do they still make good raps those guys at ERB?
From what I understand, it took him 7 mins to reply to an email, but Dlugy had been banned by the time the email came. So he had plenty of time to think from the ban to the email.
P.S. not rooting for him at all in this skirmish.
try a better excuse since the email was the main topic that included the 72 hour deadline
Ok William is on the band wagon but I agree with you. Who knows what Dlugy was going through or how he made such a mistake in responding “too quickly” but that being said maybe we don’t use that as a reference point as to why he’s wrong. There is plenty of ammo to use.
I'm sorry but Hikaru's analogy that he'd be Magnus' equal losing 8 games to him is 100% less comical than what's actually going on.
The secrecy around a coach cannot remain in a lawsuit. So they would have to open to making everything public. Also, given the memory that most GMs have, delugy would have to be willing to name the student who caused him to cheat. That would be interesting as well.
that puts him into an even worse situation then
I think there is a good reason not to say who the coach is, given that their reputation would be damaged. However, that also begs the question of why someone would ever consider that as a problem if they were not cheating, so wouldn't people have known who it was before the Magnus incident?
This did get to court.
22:40 this is the thing. Hans lawsuit is not going to help him. The lawsuit itself will make people not want to be close to Hans.
I think Hans’ secret coach is Magnus. They likely had a bitter falling out as lovers which is why Magnus knows about the cheating. He has seen the hidden device first-hand and has probably helped install it on occasion. What pushed Magnus over the edge is that Hans was distracted thinking about Levy during their match.
You forget about the long distance relationship they have, Hikaru lives closer and this triangle drama was to much for Magnus
Wow. Chess Drama conspiracy theories just got deeper. 😅😂
If there will be lawsuit i hope Camille Vasques will represent Magnus .
A day later, and this video is very interesting. Think the analysis is very good. Don't settle, Hikaru. (easy for me to say,..)
Delusion is a step in forgiving yourself
Guess you're going to find out what a jury will do after all
Dlugy designed the first radio activated bead prototype
Hikaru's gleefullness speaks for itself.
He's even more than Magnus' equal... he's Stockfish equal
I highly doubt those emails would hold up in court. They are basically coerced admissions,
Most courts don’t really care about coerced admissions. Tons of people have been convicted over obviously coerced admissions due to police lying and the court has basically outright stated that police can lie all they want. These guys aren’t even police and the case isn’t criminal so they would be held to an even lower standard by the court.
dlugy is a classic narcissist and it becomes so obvious in this interview. he teamed up with another narcissist (hans) because a normal person wouldn‘t share the same values with him. they both have no remorse for cheating. so they both get along very well and even thrive alongside eachother.
honestly, if you put all the pieces together the idea that they teamed up to cheat against magnus seems not too far fetched.
Now it is Dlugey’s turn to engine up Magnus.
Plot twist: the students who were suggesting the moves? Magnus and Hikaru
I'm coining it! There should be a word "Dlugy" which would be a synonym for "delusional".
It's so easy to imagine that, I second it.. too bad it's at Dlugys expense but still lol
Y’all are just being dlugy right now
I noticed a typo in your description:
"claims he played a match with Magnus and he's basically he's equal."
every time there is a picture or artistic recreation of a picture of a top chess player in a thumbnail, it becomes quite clear from their eyes that they are high on the spectrum.
The problem with his claim about giving false confession is that he puts himself as a lier. If it makes sense for him to lie in a way that makes him look bad then what is stopping him from lying in a way that makes him look good. How can we believe him when he is saying he gave a false confession?
Dlugi takes every chance he can to flatter himself
People think court and the law are the feelings police lmao
And then an actual junior wins the candidates at age 17! That's how you become world champion, not through trash talking and cheating, like Hans does. The chess speaks for itself.
Han's coach is clearly Stockfish, come on.
Soon he will just admit he taught him how to be a better cheater
Terima kasih informasinya, Sir Hikaru. Semoga suatu hari nanti saya bisa bertanding catur dengan Anda.
Btw want to see some new blood at the top.
Rooting for Robson, maybe he can best Xiong with white.
Fabi gets to play Aronian always a tough opponent.
If Robson can win and Aronian fights to a draw with black, Robson wins US Chess 🏆 Ch.
21:35
Well.. we will see I guess. Lol.
Love the drama.
21:39 😂😂😂
In Polish "Dlugy" means "the long one" ... that's what she said !
hikaru please make irl streams
Maxim actually thinks that it’s believable for a 2700elo player to get 3000+elo computer moves from a 1200elo kid and not notice
The difference between Dlugy and Niemann is there’s actual proof and confessions from Dlugy while Niemann is claiming his innocence and Magnus has shown no proof at all.
16:20 - is where Dlugy says he's Magnus's equal
Thank you
Needs to change his lastname to Dlusional
He is, with the power of the beads.
LOL so Magnus didn't mention Dlugy until 2 days after Dlugy's friend had contacted Magnus' team to say that he was Hans' mentor.
Fix your chat bro. The bottom is cut off.
Dlugy is Magnus' equal? Maybe if he inserts a certain type of plug, he will be 🤣🤣🤣
Didn’t he initially say he wasn’t Hans’ mentor? And now how claims his first reaction was “thats good” indicating that he was connected to Hans
If Hans can make a 100 million lawsuit for cheating 100 times, I expect a 10 billion lawsuit from Dlugy.
21:39 gold
oooh, I just realized dlugy was the first GM hired to work in the IBM deep blue project that eventually won kasparov. this is hilarious. it makes him like the grandpa of engine chess!
Wow so when Kasparov accuse IBM of cheating when Deep Blue made a human move it is actually dlugy making the move? This guy is legit computer have to consult dlugy for moves!
The secret coach is, drumroll, Robert James Fischer
"He does look focused"
Half a second later
Chat: looks like bzzz bzzz bzzz
Hikaru: ah ya.. good one good one
Karpov is 15 years older than Maxim Dlugy. How in this world is he speaking about Karpov youth (as if he witnessed), and suggesting that he was Karpov's coach? I'm confused.
My interest in Hans Niemann is approaching zero.
Anybody remember that time when Hikaru didn’t get second place in the candidate’s tournament?
21:39
Talk about foreshadowing
Hikaru really underestimates how dumb juries can be.