What is a Hayabusa good for? Seriously. It's not nimble enough as a track bike, and it's not comfortable enough as a touring bike. You wouldn't want to waste all that power using it as a commuter, so what are you left with?
New Hayabusa - megafast stunning looking comfortable sportsbike - commuter - tourer for taller people who do not want lo look like bears on circus bicycle. Perfect for me - thats why i am getting it in 3 weeks
You’ve obviously never ridden one, you’ll soon see the attraction once you’ve had a go on one. Take a look on UA-cam regarding the track day thing! A regular track day goer has been using a Busa for several years now, take a look🤔....
I have a 2008 Busa with heli handle bars moved them back to make the reach shorter and also added a custom made a 3/4 plate on top of forks crown that raised them and eliminated the low handle bars wrist pain etc
A modified busa will be faster than this trash 🗑 which always lost on drag races…Kawasaki put a nice super charge which give a lot of h/p BUT the busa have bigger and better engine and the best of all it can take every freaking mod that h2 can’t… as for safety nada 👎 it’s the perfect gun to kill yourself ..but don’t worry busa 3 can hug you and give you everything safety power reliability and many more..that’s busa the best bike the world ever seen
Having owned a Busa for 14 years and covering 40k mostly on French and Spanish roads, I fancied a change and some relief to my wrists hips n back side, I parted ways with the mighty Busa and purchased an H2SXSE... no regrets, this thing is incredible, it’s a real do it all motorcycle, comfortable, ballistically fast and so capable. It’s been two up touring fully loaded and doesn’t blink an eyelid. It’s pretty economical all things considered and is really up there when it comes to build quality. And as much as I love the new Busa, is it a better bike than the H2🤔.... Can I fill panniers n clear off to the continent like I can the H2, nope, it would have to be soft luggage slung over that lovely body work😬 I’ll be sticking with the big bad H2 thanks👍🏽....
Love my H2 SX SE + Really love it. Never ridden the 'Busa so can't comment on its merits, but love the fact that the H2 SX has integral luggage which don't hamper the bike's performance, love the way it is quite flickable for such a big bike (at least compared with my old FJR, ha ha), love the engine... power is linear and relentless. Comfortable too, once your bum adjusts!
I'm 5'6 and have always been extremely comfortable on my gen 1 Busa. I added some rear sets to bring my feet lower and farther back which makes more space for legs. I have ridden some days 4AM to 10PM and felt fine the next day. Also, I have heard a gel seat is wonderful. I'm 67.
The H2 for me. Busa looks always intrigue me, the reliability is just legendary, now even more so. Very difficult choice but the Kawa has that "it" factor many would prefer... Just something else entirely
A modified busa will be faster than this trash 🗑 which always lost on drag races…Kawasaki put a nice super charge which give a lot of h/p BUT the busa have bigger and better engine and the best of all it can take every freaking mod that h2 can’t… as for safety nada 👎 it’s the perfect gun to kill yourself ..but don’t worry busa 3 can hug you and give you everything safety power reliability and many more..that’s busa the best bike the world ever seen
I’d say “Fireblade” it rewrote most everything in sports bikes, built better and reputation is world renowned. The Busa when it came out was the one that took the blackbird and zzz crown for outright speed but did not sell because it was pig ugly massive and very long not a good all rounder
Hayabusa is a LEGEND which lives 22 years so far. I met so many people who have never ridden a bike, but 99% of them have heard for Hayabusa! If only I had money, Hayabusa would be my choice!
Yes, thats part of the problem...believing hearsay made the busa a "legend"...and while it only was the fastest bike in the world until the ZX12 came out, the 99% kept talking rubbish. ;-)
Wot Da Fok Believing hearsay? You got no idea what your talking about! Have you ever owned a Hayabusa? No. Have you ever ridden one? I think not. Your just showing your ignorance and are not qualified to answer, go away and go ride your tricycle 👎👎👎
I'm betting that those same people would also recognize the name "Ninja". The problem with the Hayabusa is that it was really only the "King" until Kawasaki came out with the ZX-12 and then the ZX-14. Once Kawasaki decided to get into the top speed, highway missile category, Suzuki seemed to always be a step or two behind with the Busa.
That's the point. "People who never ridden a bike" talking Hayabusa. People who knows bikes, wouldn't blink if the choice was between these two. H2 is "now", Busa is past
@@GeorgeFafa That is a bold statement. Find in the books, ZX12R wasnt faster in top speed, it was 2kmh slower than Busa. They beat the busa with ZX14R, but again then was a gentlemas agreement about which you know nothing as I can see.
I am 73 ridding since 13 and have had many motorcycles I just ordered the new HAYABUSA and will be doing A 3000 mile run across America, Black was my pick,bummer is I will not be getting it till late July . Remember it all about the ride 🦅🇺🇸🦅🏍
Why don’t you try engr Hubbard on Facebook for more advice that’s were I always recommend people to because he has discount rate in shipping and other related stuffs
I am 55 riding since i was 10 , love the old busa's. I currently own a 2019 busa I have 12000 miles on it already, my 2013 busa i bought it new also i sold it at 57000 miles it still ran great there very comfortable bikes . so lets see what the new one holds, I will give it a chance . the sticker is a little high $18,500 compared to zx14 $14,500
Hello thanks for the review. I My experience is similar owning the Kawasaki H2 in 2016 for about a year and having owned three Suzuki Hayabusa’s new in 2010, new in 2013 and now owning the third - another 2013 albeit in a different colour all by the way Gen II’s. My experience as a rider is quite long having ridden all my life and having some road racing experience at an amateur level. At last count I have owned over 50 bikes in my life ranging from sport bikes two and four stroke, dirt bikes and even at one stage over five year period - cruiser Harley Davidsons. So......The difference between the Kawasaki & Suzuki is huge in one way but similar in that they are very fast motorcycles. The Hayabusa is much more comfortable, is a better all rounder ( that in itself is a very important attribute) and is in my opinion an easier bike to ride. The engine has so much torque you can upshift & relax if you feel like, or get into it and really feel the ballistic style performance this bike can produce. The power is very linear and not abrupt and jerky like the H2. Good Throttle control is a must on the H2. You need much more experience to ride the H2 well and in a smooth manner. I actually tried the G2 throttle tamer to quell the abruptness, but actually just worked on my throttle control in the end to what I called a satisfactory level (which was quite a challenge). Because I am 6ft tall the Hayabusa is perfect for me, something shorter riders like your reviewer has stated seems be a major reason preferring the Kawasaki. I am suprised your reviewer has stated this as this generation of Busa has addressed shorter riders by changing handlebar position favourably for shorter riders and a more general upright ride. That aside I think the Hayabusa is the better bike hands down and better value for the money. It’s much easier to ride& maintain ( I maintain all my bikes and never go to dealers). Now as for the H2 - firstly it’s a single rider not able to have a pillion (big disadvantage) and here in Australia it’s twice the price so they are not really comparable at all. I know the H2 SX may be more comparable but here in Australia it’s still more expensive then the venerable Hayabusa anyway placing it at a distinct disadvantage as a comparison for value for money. As for outright performance & speed both are similar being speed restricted but deliver in a different way, the Hayabusa has better wind protection - especially for SUSTAINED high speed/touring. The H2 has not got the same wind protection as the big old Hayabusa making sustained high speed tiring. In light rain for instance I am almost totally dry after riding the Hayabusa but the H2 I am noticeably more wet. In saying all this the H2 power delivery is out of this world particularly at lower revs/gears and is noticeably alive/quicker than the Hayabusa. The amazing fact the supercharger is spinning up to ten times engine speed is just bloody amazing and no wonder the bike is a missile. Add the beautiful chirping sound to this and it’s what I call heaven on earth!! The initial performance of being quicker is temporary as once the big Busa gets going the difference isn’t as severe and is respectable at higher speeds. On the road I often ride with mates with other H2s and Busas so have lots experience seeing this in reality. In that being said I must say the Suzuki Hayabusa is my favourite and much more pleasure to own, anyone that has ever owned one knows that special feeling it gives, something no other bike can, and it’s really one of very few bikes you can carry a pillion comfortably (unlike modern sportbikes) to enjoy high speed riding and very decent cornering ability. I often ride with my wife (which has great pillion ability) anyone that can share this type riding with a pillion knows that special feeling of two people/ and a bike being as one, totally sensational only the Hayabusa can provide. Anyone that criticises it’s ability to tackle corners has never ridden in the real world with an accomplished rider. The Hayabusa is similar but noticeably more stable then the Kawasaki in the longer sweeping style bends and holds its own in the tighter stuff. Of course tight bends need to be muscled through, but overall it’s a extremely forgiving and stable bike. The confidence and feedback is higher too translating to a more enjoyable experience. The Kawasaki is just an animal and a real thrill to experience but I would have (and do have!) the better bike today for my application..... I hope this helps with determining the differences between these two wonderful styles of fast motorcycles, I do apologise that your review is the H2 SX and not the full blooded H2 like I had but hoping there is a similarity in the comparison.... Cheers and Thankyou from down-under Australia 🇦🇺 👍👍👍
Yeah, I got the complete opposite of your review, H2sx once you set it up it is a better option than the Busa. Busa is a 1/4 mile king that's about it.
Do not forget that busa reputation was made especially on the aftermarket mods which a lot of companies take care.. like exhaust,filters,programs,turbo and even compressor which give you a huge amount of power and the best of all is that the engine can afford almost everything without any problems and that’s the proof over the years..don’t forget it’s still one of the best drag bikes..the new busa is by far the best for reliability of engine and to keep the rider safe at high speeds,as for the comparison with h2 it’s not right cause they are on different categories, to explain if we put a turbo on busa the h2 will be useless against it… the other thing is that the h2 can’t take the mods that busa can… Kawasaki and every company almost every year give you a new bike ..the busa has only 3 bikes since 1999 which at my opinion makes them something special either you love it or to hate it..personally I love it
Good video by the way. Turbo Hayabusa owner here. The solution is to buy ana aftermarket seat and then your have the perfect hyper tourer. There's nothing quite like a hayabusa for hyper cruising. You just feel you own the world/road.
I sold my H2 SX SE + and after seating on the new Busa, I had to order a brand new H2 SX SE + again. The bike is faultless more versatile and what the supercharger brings to the party is something that no other bike can give. Spot on review 👍👍
Couldn’t agree more Dan... The Busa would have to be one hell of a bike for me to go back to one. The H2 has it all in my opinion, superb bit of Kawasaki Wizardry👍🏽
The Suzuki will run longer with less issues. Less moving parts, valves, compressors, waste gates, electronics and more. Simple. Effective. They stand the test of time. It's why we've all known the word since we were young. Hayabusa.
The new Busa is a beautiful bike in my eyes. I ride a Black/Grey with gold 2014 gen 2 with carbon yoshimura pipes and of course its not for everyone but fits me perfectly at 45 years young! Like others say “ to each their own 🤷🏻♂️” ✌🏼😎👍🏼
Thank you for a delight review.I replaced my H2 with a 2021 Busa.I find the wind protection and stability better with the Busa.Mind,that the Kawa is almost a tourer and the Busa is considered a hyper sport and as oneit is very comfortable.
I bought the 2022 Hayabusa and rode it more than 1000 miles to get it home, and absolutely loved every minute of it. The power is staggering, even at low RPM. I am 46 and 6'0" tall, with no problems at all in the comfort area. The seat is great, never had any fatigue from that part of the bike. Its a monster, and if you want fast AND cool, this is the bike.
Having owned a 08 Busa and having test ridden the Kawasaki H2SXE , undeniably kawi is a much better ride, for sheer power I would still hop on the Busa
Tried the H2SX and it just wasn't exciting. Fast and comfortable, but it's just something about it that makes it anonymous in a way. Tough to explain. I now ride a Hayabusa and it's excitement as soon as the garage door opens.
Comfort is a personal thing. Over the years I’ve been riding I’ve rode many bikes people consider uncomfortable and felt right at home. so taking that out of the equation, its got to be the ‘Busa for me. Another personal thing, it just looks awesome.
The Buss looks spectacular in black/orange accents, and the shape of things too. But the ergonomics are not right for touring. So I would be happier on the Kawasaki.
I used to own a Kwak GPZ1000RX back in 1986. Cost about £4500.00, shows just how things have changed, for it's day it was great for long distances, quick in a straight line, only blown off once by a Lambo Countach in pooring rain on the M42, but it handled like a tank even with early Michelin radials. Wish I could afford one of these beasts, no doubt.
I honestly forgot all about the H2 SX. I liked it, but it doesnt get a lot of press here in the US. I have always liked the Busa, but never thought of it as sports tourer...I dont think my insurance company would either which sucks. :-(
your right the insurance company still have the busa as the fastest production bike .yet the H2 passed that up, yet the insurance company will bend your check book
I would love that the head to head videos were shooting riding the bikes the same day in the same conditions back to back, I know it's harder, but more entertaining and truer.
Hi their, I have a 22 plate busa and it's my 4th busa over the past 20+ year's, I quite often ride from Devon to London and enjoy every mile of a 400 mile round trip.
I own a brand new 2020 Red Busa...I Love Everything About It...I Don't Need Anyone to tell me what I need or want cause I can think for myself 😆😅🤣 I would never waste my time or money on ANYTHING but The Big Bad Busa ... SUZUKI GSXR'S STARTED IT ALL....⚡💥🔥🎶🌟😎
As a current H2sx owner, previous busa & multiple zzr14owner, i think the sx gets too easy a ride from the press. If youre considering an sx, have as long a testride as possible . Is easy to get taken in by the short gearing, the surge between 6-10k, the chirping & the turbine like smoothness. But due to eu regs and having the (too big for it) radiator from the H2R, the cold start comes back on even after a 40min ride when water temp drops below 68deg., leaving you at traffic lights revving at 2.5k, suddenly your £20k bike sounds v cheap, makes filtering and slow speed stuff awkward as it pushes on when you dont want/expect it to. Then theres the rattle from supercharger chain/tensioner which sounds horrendous on start up, 30% of time. Again sounds cheap & nasty. Dealers/' forums say 'they all do it'. Not good enough! 30-40mph 4th/5th gear cruising is awful, hunts tho all new bikes seem to. & its not actually THAT fast. (Low gearing and surge at 6k gives impression it is). Below 4k it feels like a 125 compared to busa/zzr. Ecu flash sorts the fuelling & gives it an extra 45bhp at top end Brembo rcs corsacorta sorts the spongy brake lever and gives it what feels like the 300bhp brakes it should have as standard! Gaffa tape over 40%of the radiator stops the cold start issues tho needs removing on rare v hot uk days. For all my moaning i wouldnt sell it, tho it has a lot of issues standard. There are 100s for sale used as v easy to fall for on a brief testride, living with it can be a v different experience.
I feel no compunction to ride either bike, let alone own one, but they're somehow magical and pull you in like siren-song; irresistibly.. they embody that which made me love motorcycles as a boy; fast, scary, exciting..
The last 2 Gen's of Busas I feel have just been a touch behind the 8 ball. I've had CBRXX1100, ZX-12R, ZX-11 & ZX-14 and it just seems that the Zuk is always playing catch-up. I must admit the Gen 1 was so fun went it first arrived on the seen back in 1999. I like the looks of this new one but its really the same bike as the Gen 2. So I think if I were to go with a new bike now it would be the H2 SX.
I contemplated the H2 SX SE and what drove me away was two up riding. First my wife has a 🍑 sooo the big pillion seat on the busa is perfect. Also from surveying H2 SE owners about pillion, they said it moves the center of gravity to high and far back to be a stable as bikes like the busa for spirited handling.
Nice fair & balanced review. Both nice bikes but maybe not as similar as they first appear. H2SX is a genuine sports tourer where as the Hayabusa seems like a plush comfy sports bike that can tour a bit. Definitely prefer the 'Busa.
Slightly misleading on the price. The bike you showed was a SXSE I believe costing over 18k. The price you stated was for a standard H2sx which has no bells and whistles like the SE. I have a SXSE and love it. Traded my zzr1400 in for it and have no regrets.
I love this review. I have been seriously considering both bikes and I am using them as long range cruise missiles but I do ride around town a lot too. I was leaning towards the h2 sx but now I feel like the h2 sx is the one no question about it
you comments on comfort was what won me over to the ZX14 in 2006. I am a tall rider who wanted a nice soft seat and leg room. The Busa was painful, the Kaw was perfect for me.
I’ve not ridden an H2, but have a 2022 Hayabusa, which I love. I’ve normally ridden 600cc bikes, and I’m truly impressed with the Busa power and comfort level. Maybe one day I’ll get to ride an H2, but until then, it’s Busa for me✌️
Agree with that. They have always had the best reputation for large Japanese 4-Strokes back to the days of the Z900 in the '70's. Perhaps showing my age but always wanted a Z1R after seeing one as a kid.
@@timcolder2789 sounds great mate! It was a phenomenal machine! My personal favorite is the 750 triple H2 it’s on my bucket list 👍 Chase your dream bike!
The SX is a tourer, the Hayabusa is a hyper sport so expecting the same level of comfort is wrong they are different bikes designed for different things, as a matter of fact the Hayabusa should be praised for being such a comfortable sport bike that people tour on it!! When it comes to big cc sport bikes the Hayabusa has always been the best there is! There is a reason there are so many more of them than any of the Kawasaki bikes! Not to mention the durability and tunability of the Suzuki engine far exceeds the Kawasaki!
Agree about the pipes. That's the main thing I hate about current bikes whether they are road or race versions. They look like they were styled by a guy that also designed dust bin lids. Give me the days of the old carbon fibre race cans or the alloy cans of the R1, the early ZX10 R, or the underseat pipes of the 916 Duke any day.
Agreed..... One of my keepers in my garage, all black, non abs 08 BKing.... Its on the list of keepers residing in my garage. Absolutely love it. A bike ahead of its time and still cool today. Was hoping the new retro Katana was rekindle of the BKing, but no luck..... Id of grabbed an all black Katana if theyd of Busafied it.
Toad, aside from the weight, my Busa is the best bike I've owned. I love the character of analog motorcycles!!! Although I haven't ridden any of the H2 offspring, there's no appeal for me in considering it. It's a supercharged, obese litre bike. A thou will always be a thou. Now, the power hit of 1340 cc and torque...there is no other. The idiom that comes to mind? "There's no replacement for displacement"
@@davezo6405 I don't like that characteristics of a supercharged engine; I'd rather go turbo if I chose forced induction. Yes, the Busa is morbidly obese, no doubt about that.
My only issue with the Kawasaki H2 SX is the ugly headlight. Why do all bikes use that ugly cyclops headlight? Go back to the last gen LED lights, they look good. I kind of have the same issue with the Suzuki Hayabusa, but to a much lesser degree. The dash on the Busa is the best looking dash ever made in my opinion, a true work of art. That said, i'd go with the H2 SX every time. That sound of the Super Charger is intoxicating.
A great review but there was no mention of luggage options which, I would suggest, is pretty important for a sports tourer. Likewise, no mention of the fact that, while the 'Busa can be "played with", the addition of a filter and an ECU flash on the H2 SX will add 20+ bhp
Its nice to say on paper that the busa is a sport touring bike but come on, hands down its a drag bike or short bursts down the highway with your buddies bike.
If you're into modifying bikes to go (really) fast there is only one option. The Kawasaki is as fast as its going to be. The busa has the same 1340 motor as gen 2 (with electronic upgrades) so will be really easy to extract serious power from .
The motor isn’t exactly the same. A lot of the internals got revamped and swapped out due to emissions. The cams are a big one but is does have a nicer power curve at the low to mid range. Precisely what you’d want for a highway cruiser and the street anyways.
Two amazing bikes. You want a Macho style sport tourer go for the Hayabusa...you want a more polished sport touring bike then the Kawasaki. Designwise for me the Hayabusa hands down. By the way this bikes have the coolest dash ever....love the Hayabusa old school analogue design dash....and the Kawasaki with a mix of TFT olus the analogue tach.
The Gen 1 Hayabusa is the lightest of the three models ! That is the sportiest proof. 😜Gen 1: 244 kg (equipment weight) / 175 hp 🙄Gen 2: 266 kg (equipment weight) / 197 hp 😗Gen 3: 264 kg (equipment weight) / 188 hp
i am 6'-1" and over 225lbs. the size of the rider makes bike selection very subjective. For me, the R1, H2R and Z14 were too compact. Bought the white '23 Busa as it fit my backside better. lol. replaced the windsreen with a double bubble and replaced the exhaust with Yoshi 77s. no emission restrictions here in US. I use my electric Zero SR/S as commuter and Busa for longer trips.
Nick i agree .I am 6 ft 4 rode both, comfort on both are equal. I really like the Hayabusa gauges but The Kawasaki SXH2 just does everything better period. FYI i own a stable of new superbikes both Euro and japanese. so i dont get brand fan boy goggles .
Good review. I have both, and there's almost nothing in it. Neither will disappoint and you can do most things on them both. The normally aspirated Hayabusa is about as it good as it gets for an engine and I prefer the power delivery over the H2SX. However, I am selling one of the two because they are so similar and overlap on almost everything and I'm selling the Hayabusa. But both are exceptional and it really is the toss of a coin and down to personal preference probably around the looks more than anything.
Me: someone whos nowhere near a bike expert or even much of a rider. However i have met enough riders and racing enthusiasts to know enough. And as an engineering and videogame enthusiast. E.G (Ride 4) I know well of the old hayabusa. and of the ninja line. and of how insane the H2 and H2R is. but the news of a factory 2021 hayabusa is news to me. its a true homage to the original keeping the engine basically the same but upgrading the looks, electronics and with more modern building standards. its actually quite beautiful. as you can guess im really only here to see two of the most over engineered sports bikes in the world. because they are F***ing cool. Its also a fight between the old style of “bigger engine goes faster” To more “efficient boosted engine goes faster”
Hi, Good honest and informative review. Thanks for that. The one thing that is very different in my part of the world (Canada) is pricing. The Kawasaki H2 SX is $30k where the Busa is $22,400. I think it might be because the only version available here seems to be the SX SE +. Not sure if that impacts the price.
Hayabusa now Is the only sportbike available for taller people, its a very reliable machine too, if you dont like the dual sport or touring bikes and you are more than 1.80m this Is your bike.
I have a 2006 limited edition hayabusa with 65k on it and a new 2022 1340cc Hayabusa on order im 5'7 and find the Hayabusa comfortable for long trips the key is being in physical shape for the type of riding style 😎 Hayabusa for life!!!!
having a busa is like having a free club pass into a big bike world with really really capable bike and that club doesn't have many like busa , last one was zzr14 which is now gone so busa is best bet
I'm a Ninja guy all the way. I had a 03 ZX636C special order bike and a 99 ZX9R which I loved so much. Just a truly comfortable and powerful, light very well balanced bike. It was blue and black two tone with matching blue rims. My 03 was orange/red with no decals or markings and wouldn't stay on two wheels. 15,500RPM redline and I never found out what the top speed was. I got up to 178MPH and I was only pushing 9500RPMS in 6th. Now my ZX9R had a 195MPH speedometer but topped out @ 175MPH. I want either a ZX636 Monster Energy edition or a H2. I live on an island so really opening up the bike isn't possible for the most part, but that's why I love going off to the main land and hitting the highway.
Thanks for the review I’m 51 so comfort is more important to me. I’ve been looking at the Kawasaki I own and 2022 Indian scout rogue and in 2021 Harley Davidson fat Bob 114. I need a super bike now.😂
Kawasaki is best for the money! And Suzuki’ have dropped off the past years and they had a good chance here to unravel something ground breaking but fell flat again! 16.4k for a hyabussa with no extras is awful! 180bhp in 2021 doesn’t cut it The H2SX is a bargain! I’m happy with my z1000sx for now! but I’d get the H2SX
The Ferrari F40 is not the fastest car ever made anymore. It’s not the most aero dynamic. It’s not even close to modern hyper cars…and yet you talk to any one with more than a passing interest in cars and most will know what an F40 is and the majority will nod appreciatively when it gets mentioned. The Hayabusa is basically like the F40 but in bike version. Everyone with more than a passing interest in bikes will know the name Suzuki Hayabusa. It’s something like 25years old now. I’d like to see anyone talk about the Kawasaki in the same light in 25years time. Meanwhile despite bikes getting faster and more techie the Hayabusa will always live on
I am on my second H2 SX, Busa is too old skool for me. It's not great how bad the comfort was too, for a 5ft 7 bloke, That's why I sold my old skool ZZR a few years ago, as was too stretched for long tours bit like this Busa. The wheelbase was long and too lazy for sports, fast, tight cornering and riding. The H2 SX is really really comfortable and you can really throw it around from bend to bend too on normal roads, comfortable for long-distance rides, and is much more nimble and sportier. For the Busa, I think if you just wanted to ride straight lines for an hour it would be fine and be a bit nostalgic for the old days.
I know the Suzuki Hayabusa has been tweaked and has a lot of tech thrown at it, I believe it has a smaller tank range and you say a harder seat , I think Suzuki have played it safe instead of pushing the boundaries more , for some like me to part with my cash I would want more of Leap forward not a rehash , I would like to see a Gen 2 Hayabusa vs Gen3 on a dragstrip just to see what the differences are in acceleration and pick up.
I rode my 03 Busa 1050 miles in 2 days. Haven't ridden the kawi, but other than the styling. Why should I get a new busa? Mine is paid for and already modified with the same size engine...
in the video all I see is H2 SX SE and no H2 SX. MSRP of H2SXSE+ is $25000 here in the US no choice of H2 SX here. that is $6500 more than Busa. and on top of that Busa comes with first 3 maintenances free including labor. expect ergonomics, head and heart for Busa
✌️🤔 a good report thanks 👍I haven’t rode the kawa but both bikes are eye candy 🍭 it’s down to whichever is best for you ie I feel need for? or the peregrine which means hayabusa if don’t know 🕳👍
Complete opposite for me. The Hayabusa is the ultimate Boomer bike with all its analogueness and its old school feel. This class was always about pushing the limits of the current technology and the 2022 Suzuki is almost a retro bike in that regard. And who builds a touring bike with zero luggage capacities? But the dash is gorgeous, the Kawasaki really lacks there. Overall, I'd always choose green if I had to, just for the panniers alone.
All good points and a very balanced and well judged review. I just love the Busa, sorry guys. I do own a Kawi z900rs, which is great. I still love the Busa. Old or new. Character, style, superb design, balance, poise, etc. etc. etc.
The 14r hasn’t been discontinued. In fact, there’s a 2022 model available. Kawasaki. H2 is just in its own class and neither 14r or hayabusa can match it. H2sx over powered and makes both of them look like a 600
He said he was 5'7"? And the seat was too hard? This is a guy who fits on liter bikes. Liter bikes look like children's toys to big guys, and are about as comfortable. Wrong size Rider to talk about comfort on one of the few bikes that fits big people.
Ive had both, in fact i went from a ZX14R to a '22 Busa. The Busa is better in every way except ballistic acceleration, the 14R just has more power and doesnt noticeably tail off at high rpms like the Busa. Now i have a '22 H2 SX SE and its just so silky smooth, so effortless when it comes to getting on it. Both bikes can do 40 in 6th and pull cleanly but the H2 will pull harder from lower down thanks to the sulercharger and the 22 model with radar cruise control and phone mirroring (almost) is next level compared to the sparce Busa clocks. Very similar bikes (Super sports cruisers) bur they fo about it very differently. It really is a try it and see which fits your needs best. Ultimately the Busa is still relying on the legend that the 1st Busa set even though many bikes today beat it.
I'll be taking the demo out for a spin, but the Busa is more interesting to me. I rode a K1300S which was stupendously good. If this bike is anything like that then I'm in trouble !!
The Busa is perhaps more on the Sporty side of Sport Touring and the H2 SX is more on the Touring side of Sports Touring ... perhaps if one were to do a short solo stint ... the Busa would be the weapon of choice with bragging rights for a gorgeous looking motorcycle, and If one were to explore the country side with their partner then the H2 SX SE would very quietly but comfortably do the job
I have to say I love my H2 SX SE, no complaints other than low speed throttle abruptness which is solved w a flash but I just really enjoy the bike. Its alot better than my past ZX14, never owned a Busa , I have just not as appealing in looks to me. I agree with you on the comfort and choice if touring , the H2 SX is an excellent sport tour, leaning more to sport. I find it just fits me really well
What is a Hayabusa good for? Seriously. It's not nimble enough as a track bike, and it's not comfortable enough as a touring bike. You wouldn't want to waste all that power using it as a commuter, so what are you left with?
New Hayabusa - megafast stunning looking comfortable sportsbike - commuter - tourer for taller people who do not want lo look like bears on circus bicycle. Perfect for me - thats why i am getting it in 3 weeks
I knew someone who commuted on one daily lol yeah overkill for sure but they were quick when it came to filtering with that lump
@@bikersquest over 15 years ZZr1100, 2 generations Hayabusas, K1200S, ZZR1400 everyday work bikes
Do you even ride? You definitely don't understand what category of bike the Busa belongs to in your conjecture.
You’ve obviously never ridden one, you’ll soon see the attraction once you’ve had a go on one.
Take a look on UA-cam regarding the track day thing! A regular track day goer has been using a Busa for several years now, take a look🤔....
Having ridden both I think you got the review spot on. Heart says Busa, head(and backside) says H2.
But bank says high mileage ninja 650
I have a 2008 Busa with heli handle bars moved them back to make the reach shorter and also added a custom made a 3/4 plate on top of forks crown that raised them and eliminated the low handle bars wrist pain etc
Busas are like $4-$8k now pretty cheap for an used one low miles
@@SixPointShot do these bars look good??
A modified busa will be faster than this trash 🗑 which always lost on drag races…Kawasaki put a nice super charge which give a lot of h/p BUT the busa have bigger and better engine and the best of all it can take every freaking mod that h2 can’t… as for safety nada 👎 it’s the perfect gun to kill yourself ..but don’t worry busa 3 can hug you and give you everything safety power reliability and many more..that’s busa the best bike the world ever seen
Having owned a Busa for 14 years and covering 40k mostly on French and Spanish roads, I fancied a change and some relief to my wrists hips n back side, I parted ways with the mighty Busa and purchased an H2SXSE... no regrets, this thing is incredible, it’s a real do it all motorcycle, comfortable, ballistically fast and so capable. It’s been two up touring fully loaded and doesn’t blink an eyelid. It’s pretty economical all things considered and is really up there when it comes to build quality. And as much as I love the new Busa, is it a better bike than the H2🤔.... Can I fill panniers n clear off to the continent like I can the H2, nope, it would have to be soft luggage slung over that lovely body work😬
I’ll be sticking with the big bad H2 thanks👍🏽....
H2sx handlebar is way too low
Love my H2 SX SE + Really love it. Never ridden the 'Busa so can't comment on its merits, but love the fact that the H2 SX has integral luggage which don't hamper the bike's performance, love the way it is quite flickable for such a big bike (at least compared with my old FJR, ha ha), love the engine... power is linear and relentless. Comfortable too, once your bum adjusts!
Excellent point of view , well said
@@MrMitokiller The handle bars are higher than the Busa or the ZX14 so what are you talking about?
@@MrMitokiller too low for you maybe
I'm 5'6 and have always been extremely comfortable on my gen 1 Busa. I added some rear sets to bring my feet lower and farther back which makes more space for legs. I have ridden some days 4AM to 10PM and felt fine the next day. Also, I have heard a gel seat is wonderful. I'm 67.
The H2 for me. Busa looks always intrigue me, the reliability is just legendary, now even more so. Very difficult choice but the Kawa has that "it" factor many would prefer... Just something else entirely
A modified busa will be faster than this trash 🗑 which always lost on drag races…Kawasaki put a nice super charge which give a lot of h/p BUT the busa have bigger and better engine and the best of all it can take every freaking mod that h2 can’t… as for safety nada 👎 it’s the perfect gun to kill yourself ..but don’t worry busa 3 can hug you and give you everything safety power reliability and many more..that’s busa the best bike the world ever seen
Owning a Hayabusa is all about owning a piece of history. It's the MOST widely known and legendary bike on the planet.
Ninja. Ninja is the most recognizable name in motorcycle history.
That’s why you don’t get one!
The special Kawi is the bike to have!
Some would say gsxr1000, I think the h2 is cool
I’d say “Fireblade” it rewrote most everything in sports bikes, built better and reputation is world renowned. The Busa when it came out was the one that took the blackbird and zzz crown for outright speed but did not sell because it was pig ugly massive and very long not a good all rounder
Owning a hyabusa is like owning a Honda civic.
Hayabusa is a LEGEND which lives 22 years so far. I met so many people who have never ridden a bike, but 99% of them have heard for Hayabusa!
If only I had money, Hayabusa would be my choice!
Yes, thats part of the problem...believing hearsay made the busa a "legend"...and while it only was the fastest bike in the world until the ZX12 came out, the 99% kept talking rubbish. ;-)
Wot Da Fok
Believing hearsay? You got no idea what your talking about! Have you ever owned a Hayabusa? No. Have you ever ridden one? I think not. Your just showing your ignorance and are not qualified to answer, go away and go ride your tricycle 👎👎👎
I'm betting that those same people would also recognize the name "Ninja". The problem with the Hayabusa is that it was really only the "King" until Kawasaki came out with the ZX-12 and then the ZX-14. Once Kawasaki decided to get into the top speed, highway missile category, Suzuki seemed to always be a step or two behind with the Busa.
That's the point. "People who never ridden a bike" talking Hayabusa. People who knows bikes, wouldn't blink if the choice was between these two. H2 is "now", Busa is past
@@GeorgeFafa That is a bold statement. Find in the books, ZX12R wasnt faster in top speed, it was 2kmh slower than Busa. They beat the busa with ZX14R, but again then was a gentlemas agreement about which you know nothing as I can see.
I am 73 ridding since 13 and have had many motorcycles I just ordered the new HAYABUSA and will be doing
A 3000 mile run across America, Black was my pick,bummer is I will not be getting it till late July .
Remember it all about the ride 🦅🇺🇸🦅🏍
Thats awesome. Im gonna get the 2022 GSX-S1000 as soon as they come out here in the fall in the US. Can't wait to ride it.
Why don’t you try engr Hubbard on Facebook for more advice that’s were I always recommend people to because he has discount rate in shipping and other related stuffs
I am 55 riding since i was 10 , love the old busa's. I currently own a 2019 busa I have 12000 miles on it already, my 2013 busa i bought it new also i sold it at 57000 miles it still ran great there very comfortable bikes . so lets see what the new one holds, I will give it a chance . the sticker is a little high $18,500 compared to zx14 $14,500
@@vphathom yes I will give the new busa all my love and attention for sure also 🦅🇺🇸🦅🏍
Have a safe and enjoyable ride young man. Age is just a number.
Hello thanks for the review. I
My experience is similar owning the Kawasaki H2 in 2016 for about a year and having owned three Suzuki Hayabusa’s new in 2010, new in 2013 and now owning the third - another 2013 albeit in a different colour all by the way Gen II’s. My experience as a rider is quite long having ridden all my life and having some road racing experience at an amateur level. At last count I have owned over 50 bikes in my life ranging from sport bikes two and four stroke, dirt bikes and even at one stage over five year period - cruiser Harley Davidsons.
So......The difference between the Kawasaki & Suzuki is huge in one way but similar in that they are very fast motorcycles. The Hayabusa is much more comfortable, is a better all rounder ( that in itself is a very important attribute) and is in my opinion an easier bike to ride. The engine has so much torque you can upshift & relax if you feel like, or get into it and really feel the ballistic style performance this bike can produce. The power is very linear and not abrupt and jerky like the H2. Good Throttle control is a must on the H2. You need much more experience to ride the H2 well and in a smooth manner. I actually tried the G2 throttle tamer to quell the abruptness, but actually just worked on my throttle control in the end to what I called a satisfactory level (which was quite a challenge).
Because I am 6ft tall the Hayabusa is perfect for me, something shorter riders like your reviewer has stated seems be a major reason preferring the Kawasaki. I am suprised your reviewer has stated this as this generation of Busa has addressed shorter riders by changing handlebar position favourably for shorter riders and a more general upright ride. That aside I think the Hayabusa is the better bike hands down and better value for the money. It’s much easier to ride& maintain ( I maintain all my bikes and never go to dealers).
Now as for the H2 - firstly it’s a single rider not able to have a pillion (big disadvantage) and here in Australia it’s twice the price so they are not really comparable at all. I know the H2 SX may be more comparable but here in Australia it’s still more expensive then the venerable Hayabusa anyway placing it at a distinct disadvantage as a comparison for value for money. As for outright performance & speed both are similar being speed restricted but deliver in a different way, the Hayabusa has better wind protection - especially for SUSTAINED high speed/touring. The H2 has not got the same wind protection as the big old Hayabusa making sustained high speed tiring. In light rain for instance I am almost totally dry after riding the Hayabusa but the H2 I am noticeably more wet. In saying all this the H2 power delivery is out of this world particularly at lower revs/gears and is noticeably alive/quicker than the Hayabusa. The amazing fact the supercharger is spinning up to ten times engine speed is just bloody amazing and no wonder the bike is a missile. Add the beautiful chirping sound to this and it’s what I call heaven on earth!! The initial performance of being quicker is temporary as once the big Busa gets going the difference isn’t as severe and is respectable at higher speeds. On the road I often ride with mates with other H2s and Busas so have lots experience seeing this in reality.
In that being said I must say the Suzuki Hayabusa is my favourite and much more pleasure to own, anyone that has ever owned one knows that special feeling it gives, something no other bike can, and it’s really one of very few bikes you can carry a pillion comfortably (unlike modern sportbikes) to enjoy high speed riding and very decent cornering ability. I often ride with my wife (which has great pillion ability) anyone that can share this type riding with a pillion knows that special feeling of two people/ and a bike being as one, totally sensational only the Hayabusa can provide.
Anyone that criticises it’s ability to tackle corners has never ridden in the real world with an accomplished rider. The Hayabusa is similar but noticeably more stable then the Kawasaki in the longer sweeping style bends and holds its own in the tighter stuff. Of course tight bends need to be muscled through, but overall it’s a extremely forgiving and stable bike. The confidence and feedback is higher too translating to a more enjoyable experience. The Kawasaki is just an animal and a real thrill to experience but I would have (and do have!) the better bike today for my application.....
I hope this helps with determining the differences between these two wonderful styles of fast motorcycles, I do apologise that your review is the H2 SX and not the full blooded H2 like I had but hoping there is a similarity in the comparison....
Cheers and Thankyou from down-under Australia 🇦🇺 👍👍👍
cheers for the lengtht review mate.
Tristan
No worries mate, hope you got what you think suits you more
luckystriker
Your welcome 👍
Yeah, I got the complete opposite of your review, H2sx once you set it up it is a better option than the Busa. Busa is a 1/4 mile king that's about it.
Do not forget that busa reputation was made especially on the aftermarket mods which a lot of companies take care.. like exhaust,filters,programs,turbo and even compressor which give you a huge amount of power and the best of all is that the engine can afford almost everything without any problems and that’s the proof over the years..don’t forget it’s still one of the best drag bikes..the new busa is by far the best for reliability of engine and to keep the rider safe at high speeds,as for the comparison with h2 it’s not right cause they are on different categories, to explain if we put a turbo on busa the h2 will be useless against it… the other thing is that the h2 can’t take the mods that busa can… Kawasaki and every company almost every year give you a new bike ..the busa has only 3 bikes since 1999 which at my opinion makes them something special either you love it or to hate it..personally I love it
Good video by the way. Turbo Hayabusa owner here. The solution is to buy ana aftermarket seat and then your have the perfect hyper tourer. There's nothing quite like a hayabusa for hyper cruising. You just feel you own the world/road.
I sold my H2 SX SE + and after seating on the new Busa, I had to order a brand new H2 SX SE + again. The bike is faultless more versatile and what the supercharger brings to the party is something that no other bike can give.
Spot on review 👍👍
Couldn’t agree more Dan... The Busa would have to be one hell of a bike for me to go back to one. The H2 has it all in my opinion, superb bit of Kawasaki Wizardry👍🏽
Dan, I added a Sargent seat to mine a couple of weeks ago and that makes the longer rides even more comfortable!
@@shiftyblake3038 thanks for sharing! Good to know 😅
The Suzuki will run longer with less issues. Less moving parts, valves, compressors, waste gates, electronics and more. Simple. Effective.
They stand the test of time. It's why we've all known the word since we were young. Hayabusa.
I have a 2012 Hayabusa, covered 148,000 km, stock motor Runs as good as it was new. Just did regular maintenance. Can't wait to ride the new Hayabusa.
The new Busa is a beautiful bike in my eyes. I ride a Black/Grey with gold 2014 gen 2 with carbon yoshimura pipes and of course its not for everyone but fits me perfectly at 45 years young! Like others say “ to each their own 🤷🏻♂️”
✌🏼😎👍🏼
A2022 black and gold at 59 years young here ...it's gonna stay stock just a total smooth beast of a bike : - )
Thank you for a delight review.I replaced my H2 with a 2021 Busa.I find the wind protection and stability better with the Busa.Mind,that the Kawa is almost a tourer and the Busa is considered a hyper sport and as oneit is very comfortable.
I bought the 2022 Hayabusa and rode it more than 1000 miles to get it home, and absolutely loved every minute of it. The power is staggering, even at low RPM. I am 46 and 6'0" tall, with no problems at all in the comfort area. The seat is great, never had any fatigue from that part of the bike. Its a monster, and if you want fast AND cool, this is the bike.
The new busa is a great looking bike , great to see such an iconic bike back on the roads again , hayabusa all day every day
Having owned a 08 Busa and having test ridden the Kawasaki H2SXE , undeniably kawi is a much better ride, for sheer power I would still hop on the Busa
Tried the H2SX and it just wasn't exciting. Fast and comfortable, but it's just something about it that makes it anonymous in a way. Tough to explain. I now ride a Hayabusa and it's excitement as soon as the garage door opens.
Lol try riding the regular ninja h2.
The H2sx looks just like the ninja 1000….can’t really tell em apart
@@jokermtb
Um, no. They look nothing alike.
ZX14 looks better than h2sx
Comfort is a personal thing. Over the years I’ve been riding I’ve rode many bikes people consider uncomfortable and felt right at home. so taking that out of the equation, its got to be the ‘Busa for me. Another personal thing, it just looks awesome.
I love the Hayabusa, but I'll have to agree with you that comfort plays an important part in riding a bike, so I'll choose the kawasaki too.
Did he mention the weight of the bikes?
The Buss looks spectacular in black/orange accents, and the shape of things too. But the ergonomics are not right for touring. So I would be happier on the Kawasaki.
I used to own a Kwak GPZ1000RX back in 1986. Cost about £4500.00, shows just how things have changed, for it's day it was great for long distances, quick in a straight line, only blown off once by a Lambo Countach in pooring rain on the M42, but it handled like a tank even with early Michelin radials. Wish I could afford one of these beasts, no doubt.
I honestly forgot all about the H2 SX. I liked it, but it doesnt get a lot of press here in the US. I have always liked the Busa, but never thought of it as sports tourer...I dont think my insurance company would either which sucks. :-(
your right the insurance company still have the busa as the fastest production bike .yet the H2 passed that up, yet the insurance company will bend your check book
The Hayabusa is not a sport tourer it is a hyper sport, it just happens to be such a comfortable sport bike that people tour on them!
I would love that the head to head videos were shooting riding the bikes the same day in the same conditions back to back, I know it's harder, but more entertaining and truer.
Its not a proper head to head, reviewer was just comparing his experience of riding both the bikes....
I'd buy both if I could. Never have enough bikes.
I agree.
Can't go wrong with either really but there is only one Hayabusa and it's a fabulous motorcycle which the entire world knows effortless massive speed.
Hi their, I have a 22 plate busa and it's my 4th busa over the past 20+ year's, I quite often ride from Devon to London and enjoy every mile of a 400 mile round trip.
I own a brand new 2020 Red Busa...I Love Everything About It...I Don't Need Anyone to tell me what I need or want cause I can think for myself 😆😅🤣 I would never waste my time or money on ANYTHING but The Big Bad Busa ... SUZUKI GSXR'S STARTED IT ALL....⚡💥🔥🎶🌟😎
I bought the 2022 hayabusa period. Love mine
As a current H2sx owner, previous busa & multiple zzr14owner, i think the sx gets too easy a ride from the press.
If youre considering an sx, have as long a testride as possible . Is easy to get taken in by the short gearing, the surge between 6-10k, the chirping & the turbine like smoothness.
But due to eu regs and having the (too big for it) radiator from the H2R, the cold start comes back on even after a 40min ride when water temp drops below 68deg., leaving you at traffic lights revving at 2.5k, suddenly your £20k bike sounds v cheap, makes filtering and slow speed stuff awkward as it pushes on when you dont want/expect it to.
Then theres the rattle from supercharger chain/tensioner which sounds horrendous on start up, 30% of time. Again sounds cheap & nasty. Dealers/' forums say 'they all do it'. Not good enough!
30-40mph 4th/5th gear cruising is awful, hunts tho all new bikes seem to.
& its not actually THAT fast. (Low gearing and surge at 6k gives impression it is). Below 4k it feels like a 125 compared to busa/zzr.
Ecu flash sorts the fuelling & gives it an extra 45bhp at top end
Brembo rcs corsacorta sorts the spongy brake lever and gives it what feels like the 300bhp brakes it should have as standard!
Gaffa tape over 40%of the radiator stops the cold start issues tho needs removing on rare v hot uk days.
For all my moaning i wouldnt sell it, tho it has a lot of issues standard.
There are 100s for sale used as v easy to fall for on a brief testride, living with it can be a v different experience.
@@BlueRage plenty of mention of it on the forums/fb owner groups, ive ridden 4, all did it. In warmer climates its not an issue
I feel no compunction to ride either bike, let alone own one, but they're somehow magical and pull you in like siren-song; irresistibly.. they embody that which made me love motorcycles as a boy; fast, scary, exciting..
The last 2 Gen's of Busas I feel have just been a touch behind the 8 ball. I've had CBRXX1100, ZX-12R, ZX-11 & ZX-14 and it just seems that the Zuk is always playing catch-up. I must admit the Gen 1 was so fun went it first arrived on the seen back in 1999. I like the looks of this new one but its really the same bike as the Gen 2. So I think if I were to go with a new bike now it would be the H2 SX.
I contemplated the H2 SX SE and what drove me away was two up riding. First my wife has a 🍑 sooo the big pillion seat on the busa is perfect. Also from surveying H2 SE owners about pillion, they said it moves the center of gravity to high and far back to be a stable as bikes like the busa for spirited handling.
Great review /comparison. Got to agree, I would also go for the H2, although the ‘Busa is the better looking of the two 👍
Nice fair & balanced review. Both nice bikes but maybe not as similar as they first appear. H2SX is a genuine sports tourer where as the Hayabusa seems like a plush comfy sports bike that can tour a bit. Definitely prefer the 'Busa.
Slightly misleading on the price. The bike you showed was a SXSE I believe costing over 18k. The price you stated was for a standard H2sx which has no bells and whistles like the SE. I have a SXSE and love it. Traded my zzr1400 in for it and have no regrets.
Hayabusa, any day. It certainly looks a lot better.
Where’s the drag race, that’s all that matters between these bikes?
Am a KAWAZUKI Fanboy. Tthe busa is the wife, the H2 is the side chick
Hayabusa the Big poppa of all motorcycle
I got gen 3 Busa recently. Just changed the original seat to the accessory one (45100-10L50-B5P) and added the passenger seat cover (45500-10800-xxx)
I love this review. I have been seriously considering both bikes and I am using them as long range cruise missiles but I do ride around town a lot too. I was leaning towards the h2 sx but now I feel like the h2 sx is the one no question about it
you comments on comfort was what won me over to the ZX14 in 2006. I am a tall rider who wanted a nice soft seat and leg room. The Busa was painful, the Kaw was perfect for me.
I’ve not ridden an H2, but have a 2022 Hayabusa, which I love. I’ve normally ridden 600cc bikes, and I’m truly impressed with the Busa power and comfort level. Maybe one day I’ll get to ride an H2, but until then, it’s Busa for me✌️
I prefer the h2. Not this tourer version. The busa gen 3 is immense. I test rode it and had to get one. The mid range is just sensational.
The Busa is a true legend but I would go with the Kawi
Agree with that. They have always had the best reputation for large Japanese 4-Strokes back to the days of the Z900 in the '70's. Perhaps showing my age but always wanted a Z1R after seeing one as a kid.
@@timcolder2789 sounds great mate!
It was a phenomenal machine! My personal favorite is the 750 triple H2 it’s on my bucket list 👍
Chase your dream bike!
The SX is a tourer, the Hayabusa is a hyper sport so expecting the same level of comfort is wrong they are different bikes designed for different things, as a matter of fact the Hayabusa should be praised for being such a comfortable sport bike that people tour on it!! When it comes to big cc sport bikes the Hayabusa has always been the best there is! There is a reason there are so many more of them than any of the Kawasaki bikes! Not to mention the durability and tunability of the Suzuki engine far exceeds the Kawasaki!
this was key in my decision to purchase the H2 SX-SE' what a bike
The b King needs to come back. In a slick, as light a package as an engine that size possibly can be
Agree, but please move those pipes! Same with MT01!
Agree about the pipes. That's the main thing I hate about current bikes whether they are road or race versions. They look like they were styled by a guy that also designed dust bin lids. Give me the days of the old carbon fibre race cans or the alloy cans of the R1, the early ZX10 R, or the underseat pipes of the 916 Duke any day.
@@timcolder2789 just emissions things man. If you ever cut into them you'd be shocked to see what all they've managed to cram inside those ugly pipes
Agreed..... One of my keepers in my garage, all black, non abs 08 BKing.... Its on the list of keepers residing in my garage. Absolutely love it. A bike ahead of its time and still cool today. Was hoping the new retro Katana was rekindle of the BKing, but no luck..... Id of grabbed an all black Katana if theyd of Busafied it.
@@timcolder2789 Hell I would just settle for a chrome Kerker megaphone...
The busa will do well if its modification friendly. Nobody leaves them alone
I have owned a few. Never changed one of them. No need to.
I rode the original H2 in 72. I will always love it
You compare a touring with a semi touring bike… the sx is a sit up straight stear bike. While the busa is semi sport.
Toad, aside from the weight, my Busa is the best bike I've owned. I love the character of analog motorcycles!!!
Although I haven't ridden any of the H2 offspring, there's no appeal for me in considering it. It's a supercharged, obese litre bike. A thou will always be a thou.
Now, the power hit of 1340 cc and torque...there is no other. The idiom that comes to mind? "There's no replacement for displacement"
you should ride one and you would see that 1000 cc acts more like 1500 with supercharger. And obese describes the busa not the h2.
@@davezo6405 I don't like that characteristics of a supercharged engine; I'd rather go turbo if I chose forced induction.
Yes, the Busa is morbidly obese, no doubt about that.
My only issue with the Kawasaki H2 SX is the ugly headlight. Why do all bikes use that ugly cyclops headlight? Go back to the last gen LED lights, they look good.
I kind of have the same issue with the Suzuki Hayabusa, but to a much lesser degree. The dash on the Busa is the best looking dash ever made in my opinion, a true work of art. That said, i'd go with the H2 SX every time. That sound of the Super Charger is intoxicating.
I'm not a fan of the insect headlights either.
Own the 2021....LOVE IT!!!...Super comfortable and very easy to ride....and when that S.C kicks in its pure smiles
A great review but there was no mention of luggage options which, I would suggest, is pretty important for a sports tourer. Likewise, no mention of the fact that, while the 'Busa can be "played with", the addition of a filter and an ECU flash on the H2 SX will add 20+ bhp
Its nice to say on paper that the busa is a sport touring bike but come on, hands down its a drag bike or short bursts down the highway with your buddies bike.
If you're into modifying bikes to go (really) fast there is only one option.
The Kawasaki is as fast as its going to be.
The busa has the same 1340 motor as gen 2 (with electronic upgrades) so will be really easy to extract serious power from .
The motor isn’t exactly the same. A lot of the internals got revamped and swapped out due to emissions. The cams are a big one but is does have a nicer power curve at the low to mid range. Precisely what you’d want for a highway cruiser and the street anyways.
Two amazing bikes.
You want a Macho style sport tourer go for the Hayabusa...you want a more polished sport touring bike then the Kawasaki. Designwise for me the Hayabusa hands down. By the way this bikes have the coolest dash ever....love the Hayabusa old school analogue design dash....and the Kawasaki with a mix of TFT olus the analogue tach.
The Gen 1 Hayabusa is the lightest of the three models ! That is the sportiest proof.
😜Gen 1: 244 kg (equipment weight) / 175 hp
🙄Gen 2: 266 kg (equipment weight) / 197 hp
😗Gen 3: 264 kg (equipment weight) / 188 hp
i am 6'-1" and over 225lbs. the size of the rider makes bike selection very subjective. For me, the R1, H2R and Z14 were too compact. Bought the white '23 Busa as it fit my backside better. lol. replaced the windsreen with a double bubble and replaced the exhaust with Yoshi 77s. no emission restrictions here in US. I use my electric Zero SR/S as commuter and Busa for longer trips.
Nick i agree .I am 6 ft 4 rode both, comfort on both are equal. I really like the Hayabusa gauges but The Kawasaki SXH2 just does everything better period. FYI i own a stable of new superbikes both Euro and japanese. so i dont get brand fan boy goggles .
Good review. I have both, and there's almost nothing in it. Neither will disappoint and you can do most things on them both. The normally aspirated Hayabusa is about as it good as it gets for an engine and I prefer the power delivery over the H2SX. However, I am selling one of the two because they are so similar and overlap on almost everything and I'm selling the Hayabusa. But both are exceptional and it really is the toss of a coin and down to personal preference probably around the looks more than anything.
Me: someone whos nowhere near a bike expert or even much of a rider. However i have met enough riders and racing enthusiasts to know enough. And as an engineering and videogame enthusiast. E.G (Ride 4)
I know well of the old hayabusa. and of the ninja line.
and of how insane the H2 and H2R is.
but the news of a factory 2021 hayabusa is news to me. its a true homage to the original keeping the engine basically the same but upgrading the looks, electronics and with more modern building standards.
its actually quite beautiful.
as you can guess im really only here to see two of the most over engineered sports bikes in the world. because they are F***ing cool. Its also a fight between the old style of “bigger engine goes faster”
To more “efficient boosted engine goes faster”
I hate to say it but Kawasaki knock it out of the park with the h2sx and its little brother 1000sx best sport tour bike on the market
I wanted the Suzuki to win but on your test I to would go for the Kawasaki.
Hi,
Good honest and informative review. Thanks for that. The one thing that is very different in my part of the world (Canada) is pricing. The Kawasaki H2 SX is $30k where the Busa is $22,400. I think it might be because the only version available here seems to be the SX SE +.
Not sure if that impacts the price.
Hayabusa now Is the only sportbike available for taller people, its a very reliable machine too, if you dont like the dual sport or touring bikes and you are more than 1.80m this Is your bike.
I am on my second highly modified Hayabusa. They are beautiful and fast, not boxy like all the Kaws.
I have a 2006 limited edition hayabusa with 65k on it and a new 2022 1340cc Hayabusa on order im 5'7 and find the Hayabusa comfortable for long trips the key is being in physical shape for the type of riding style 😎 Hayabusa for life!!!!
having a busa is like having a free club pass into a big bike world with really really capable bike and that club doesn't have many like busa , last one was zzr14 which is now gone so busa is best bet
I'm a Ninja guy all the way. I had a 03 ZX636C special order bike and a 99 ZX9R which I loved so much. Just a truly comfortable and powerful, light very well balanced bike. It was blue and black two tone with matching blue rims. My 03 was orange/red with no decals or markings and wouldn't stay on two wheels. 15,500RPM redline and I never found out what the top speed was. I got up to 178MPH and I was only pushing 9500RPMS in 6th. Now my ZX9R had a 195MPH speedometer but topped out @ 175MPH. I want either a ZX636 Monster Energy edition or a H2. I live on an island so really opening up the bike isn't possible for the most part, but that's why I love going off to the main land and hitting the highway.
Hayabusa 100%! The symbol of this legendary bike is something else…
Peregrine Falcon
Thanks for the review I’m 51 so comfort is more important to me. I’ve been looking at the Kawasaki I own and 2022 Indian scout rogue and in 2021 Harley Davidson fat Bob 114. I need a super bike now.😂
Kawasaki is best for the money!
And Suzuki’ have dropped off the past years and they had a good chance here to unravel something ground breaking but fell flat again!
16.4k for a hyabussa with no extras is awful! 180bhp in 2021 doesn’t cut it
The H2SX is a bargain! I’m happy with my z1000sx for now! but I’d get the H2SX
The Ferrari F40 is not the fastest car ever made anymore. It’s not the most aero dynamic. It’s not even close to modern hyper cars…and yet you talk to any one with more than a passing interest in cars and most will know what an F40 is and the majority will nod appreciatively when it gets mentioned. The Hayabusa is basically like the F40 but in bike version. Everyone with more than a passing interest in bikes will know the name Suzuki Hayabusa. It’s something like 25years old now. I’d like to see anyone talk about the Kawasaki in the same light in 25years time. Meanwhile despite bikes getting faster and more techie the Hayabusa will always live on
I am on my second H2 SX, Busa is too old skool for me. It's not great how bad the comfort was too, for a 5ft 7 bloke, That's why I sold my old skool ZZR a few years ago, as was too stretched for long tours bit like this Busa. The wheelbase was long and too lazy for sports, fast, tight cornering and riding. The H2 SX is really really comfortable and you can really throw it around from bend to bend too on normal roads, comfortable for long-distance rides, and is much more nimble and sportier. For the Busa, I think if you just wanted to ride straight lines for an hour it would be fine and be a bit nostalgic for the old days.
Great review - totally agree with the findings
So your biggest gripe in the Busa was that it didn't fit you perfect. It fits me perfect...
I know the Suzuki Hayabusa has been tweaked and has a lot of tech thrown at it, I believe it has a smaller tank range and you say a harder seat , I think Suzuki have played it safe instead of pushing the boundaries more , for some like me to part with my cash I would want more of Leap forward not a rehash , I would like to see a Gen 2 Hayabusa vs Gen3 on a dragstrip just to see what the differences are in acceleration and pick up.
i love visordown for giving the same attention to comment section as they give to their videos
A good and well balanced review.
I rode my 03 Busa 1050 miles in 2 days. Haven't ridden the kawi, but other than the styling. Why should I get a new busa? Mine is paid for and already modified with the same size engine...
in the video all I see is H2 SX SE and no H2 SX. MSRP of H2SXSE+ is $25000 here in the US no choice of H2 SX here. that is $6500 more than Busa. and on top of that Busa comes with first 3 maintenances free including labor. expect ergonomics, head and heart for Busa
✌️🤔 a good report thanks 👍I haven’t rode the kawa but both bikes are eye candy 🍭 it’s down to whichever is best for you ie I feel need for? or the peregrine which means hayabusa if don’t know 🕳👍
Complete opposite for me. The Hayabusa is the ultimate Boomer bike with all its analogueness and its old school feel. This class was always about pushing the limits of the current technology and the 2022 Suzuki is almost a retro bike in that regard. And who builds a touring bike with zero luggage capacities? But the dash is gorgeous, the Kawasaki really lacks there. Overall, I'd always choose green if I had to, just for the panniers alone.
Only problem is the sx has some reliability horror stories.
All good points and a very balanced and well judged review. I just love the Busa, sorry guys. I do own a Kawi z900rs, which is great. I still love the Busa. Old or new. Character, style, superb design, balance, poise, etc. etc. etc.
Been test riding the two this week, I agree with all said 💯, still don't know which one to go for though.... anyone ..?
Agreed. It will be great if you can do a road test and living with sport tourers video (litre and sub litre class sport tourer)
The 14r hasn’t been discontinued. In fact, there’s a 2022 model available. Kawasaki. H2 is just in its own class and neither 14r or hayabusa can match it. H2sx over powered and makes both of them look like a 600
He said he was 5'7"? And the seat was too hard? This is a guy who fits on liter bikes. Liter bikes look like children's toys to big guys, and are about as comfortable. Wrong size Rider to talk about comfort on one of the few bikes that fits big people.
If only I could add 3 thumbs up for the very precise review, Txs
Thanks a lot!
Here in the states the MSRP of the Kawasaki is 7,000$ more than the Hayabusa
Beautiful bike. Add some bar 'risers' and the comfort issue is put to rest. Perfect.
the fact that former busa was former world fastest bike, road legal touring speaks for itself, while kawa achieved it , though track limitted only H2R
Ive had both, in fact i went from a ZX14R to a '22 Busa. The Busa is better in every way except ballistic acceleration, the 14R just has more power and doesnt noticeably tail off at high rpms like the Busa. Now i have a '22 H2 SX SE and its just so silky smooth, so effortless when it comes to getting on it. Both bikes can do 40 in 6th and pull cleanly but the H2 will pull harder from lower down thanks to the sulercharger and the 22 model with radar cruise control and phone mirroring (almost) is next level compared to the sparce Busa clocks. Very similar bikes (Super sports cruisers) bur they fo about it very differently. It really is a try it and see which fits your needs best. Ultimately the Busa is still relying on the legend that the 1st Busa set even though many bikes today beat it.
Hayabusa for me every single day and twice on Sundays 👍
I'll be taking the demo out for a spin, but the Busa is more interesting to me. I rode a K1300S which was stupendously good. If this bike is anything like that then I'm in trouble !!
The Busa is perhaps more on the Sporty side of Sport Touring and the H2 SX is more on the Touring side of Sports Touring ... perhaps if one were to do a short solo stint ... the Busa would be the weapon of choice with bragging rights for a gorgeous looking motorcycle, and If one were to explore the country side with their partner then the H2 SX SE would very quietly but comfortably do the job
I have to say I love my H2 SX SE, no complaints other than low speed throttle abruptness which is solved w a flash but I just really enjoy the bike. Its alot better than my past ZX14, never owned a Busa , I have just not as appealing in looks to me. I agree with you on the comfort and choice if touring , the H2 SX is an excellent sport tour, leaning more to sport. I find it just fits me really well