How to Use Modal Scales! Secrets Revealed!!
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2016
- In Episode 3 of Everything Music, I discuss what Modes are and how to create Modal chord voicings.
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One of the hardest things i think for people is that when you play all the modes with c major as the reference , You don't really hear the mode .( you just hear a continuation of the major scale) . If you play all the modes from the same starting note. The magic of the modes becomes quite apparent , c ionian , c dorian , c phrygian ...etc . And use a chord that corresponds to that mode , I remember the day that I figures that out , It was a like a magical door had opened . Love your videos by the way . I do learn a lot from them . Thank you
that escalated quickly! I wish you would have given every mode the treatment you gave the Dorian mode. it starts nice and logically then it takes off in a hurry
having said that thanks for all these videos, hard to find stuff like this
Yes I agree. I only started learning theory on UA-cam a couple months ago. Aside from playing trombone in marching band and improving a little in jazz. I have no idea what modes do except that they set a color or tone. Idk what each of them do. I'm @fryeguy4 on twitter if you want to talk about music in the dm.
I agree!!!! I wish he could explain how he built up these complicated chords instead of randomly listing them quickly.
Glad I'm not the only one.
This would have been easier for me to follow if there was at least a statement that we were staying in the same Key or what key we were in when we were going to these modes. As I watched the video I didn't understand if we were switching keys or building triads on the root of the mode or what. Would have also been nice to be given ALL of the characteristic notes for all of the modes.
@Brad D You have described nothing. You have done exactly what this video does: obfuscate and confuse. I appreciate you trying to explain but, again, you have not.
Rick: So let's start with C Major....
Me: OK cool! That's easy!
Rick:...then add an augmented modulation on a myxolidian sharp natural 6th flat chord with aeolian minor triads.
Me: -____-
Learn about the circle fifth/fourth . this tool will help you a lot
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it's always like that with Rick videos
@ Not only with Rick - from my experience 90% of online music "teachers" teach dark magic and not music. What do I mean by that? They circle around concepts instead of ever really explaining them, because they understand them, so it's a kind of secret knowledge to them, which can't be passed to someone uninitiated. In fact, every time I understand one of these concepts, I can't believe that they were so simple and logical and that no one really explained anything to me for a number of years which only made the mist around these ideas even denser. It's a superiority complex that most music people have that is at play here. Luckily, there are sources out there that don't try to make you feel diminished and dumb, because you can't grasp something which they try to hide from you at all costs, or lack didactic skills to teach jack, at the very least. Not that I don't enjoy chilling to Rick's videos in the first place - but when it's learning time, I go somewhere else, where I get straight explanations, dumbed down to square one. I could start a youtube channel in which I would do something like that with any given subject, let's say history, and then bullshit around so much that people would be amused and entertained, of course, but they would understand progressively less and less from my lectures.
Ditto d'at .?.?.?.?.(!!)
I'm with you guys on how its hard to follow, but the video is titled how to USE modal scales. That assumes that everyone watching knows their modal scales. I'll try to include what little I know:
(EDIT: thanks for the comments correcting my mistakes)
Ionion (1), Dorian (2), Phrygian (3), Lydian (4), Mixolydian (5), Aeolian (6), Locrian (7)
numbers refer to scale degree of a major scale, Letter tells you starting note
so if I say
C Ionion (major), C is scale degree 1 of a C major scale (whatever is scale degree 1 gives key signature) (C D E F G A B C)
C Dorian, C is scale degree 2 of a Bb major scale (Bb C D Eb F G A Bb) so with given major key, start on C (C D Eb F G A Bb C)
C Phrygian, C is scale degree 3 of an Ab major scale (Ab Bb C Db Eb F G Ab) keep same key, and start on C (C Db Eb F G Ab Bb C)
C Lydian, C is scale degree 4 of a G major scale (G A B C D E F# G) keep same key, and start on C (C D E F# G A B C)
C Mixolydian, C is scale degree 5 of an F major Scale (F G A Bb C D E) same key, start on C (C D E F G A Bb C)
C Aeolian (minor), C is scale degree 6 of an Eb major Scale (Eb F G Ab Bb C D Eb)same key, start on C (C D Eb F G Ab Bb C)
C Locrian, C is scale degree 7 of a Db major scale (Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C Db) same key, start on C (C Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C)
Knowing all Major Scales and their key signatures makes the above very easy once you understand the concept.
Letter tells you start pitch, Mode tells you what scale degree of a major scale that pitch is from (giving you key signature)
Next thing to know is how does each mode's scale degrees differ from a major scale (if both started on same pitch)
use the major scale as your point of reference and only note differences
Ionion: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 (the standard major scale)
Dorian: 1 2 3b 4 5 6 7b (start with major scale and lower 3 and 7)
Phrygian: 1 2b 3b 4 5 6b 7b (major scale but lower 2 3, 6, 7)
Lydian: 1 2 3 4# 5 6 7 (major scale but raise 4)
Mixolydian: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7b (major scale but lower 7)
Aeolian: 1 2 3b 4 5 6b 7b (major scale but lower 3, 6, 7 giving you the natural minor scale you should be familiar with)
Locrian: 1 2b 3b 4 5b 6b 7b (major scale but lower 2, 3, 5, 6, 7)
summary and what to be memorized
Ionion
Dorian (flat 3,7)
Phrygian (flat 2, 3, 6, 7)
Lydian (sharp 4)
Mixolydian (flat 7)
Aeolian (flat 3, 6, 7) minor
Locrian (flat 2, 3, 5 ,6 ,7)
Hope this helps.
Amazing brother 💚Only thing now when im getting through it is that you have a mistake in this line : C Phrygian, C is scale degree 3 of an Ab major scale (Ab Bb C D Eb F G Ab).
I think you accidentaly wrote wrong interval as it should be (Ab Bb C Db Eb F G Ab) for the major scale. Maybe this would cause trouble to less experienced folks so just to make it clear.
Solid
Nice! Just one correction. You've mentioned Phrygian and Aeolian as the same. Phrygian is 1 2b 3b 4 5 6b 7b. There is a 2b in there.
❤️u just made my day man... thanks a lot..
Your comment has taught me more about modes in 60secs of reading than the hours of videos, Google, and lectures I’ve had. I’m a patterns guy so you breaking it down like that is perfect! You should really do a video!
Best video on modes.
It's hilarious that half the people here don't even realise It's the legendary Nahre Sol here commenting.
Mind Blown. I have 2 composition assignments for my GCSE and you have just revolutionised my composition. Thank you so much, you have just put me up a grade.
Not sure if its an oversight or a design choice but the camera should be on your hands with the keys displayed. Would be more engaging and helpful. Hope to see that in the future. Thanks.
I'm speechless as to how you can deliver game changing musical study on a consistent basis.
Greatly appreciating your content.👍
Thanks Rick!
OK, after 45 minutes my brain is fried, but I actually learned a lot about creating multiple modes for each root note on the fly. This required a lot of digging on my side, though. With that being said, I feel the title is misleading and no secret to how to use them was revealed her.
With that (2) being said, I give it a thumbs up.
I am currently teaching myself piano and the more I teach myself the more I've come to realize I probably need a tutor. Until I have the money for that, the quality and quantity what I can learn from your channel is staggering. A lot of your content is over my head and something I will visit when I know more, and a lot of your content is helping me make sense of what I have learned so far. I can't thank you enough for what you are doing here Rick, UA-cam could use more content creators like you!
I don't understand what people find confusing about this. As usual, Rick is clear and precise. Thank for all you do Rick! You are a tremendous asset to musicians!
@@jasoncruizer Sorry but, the 3rd degree of F is A, I'm a bit confuse on your starting explanation
Rick, I don't think there's anyone else on UA-cam like you. Absolutely love the videos about the modes you did on piano even though I'm a guitar player. I wish I had half of your brain!!! Brilliant mate all the way from Australia!!!!
also instead of just playing chords put these modal scales in context by playing the same songs simple songs like Twinkle Twinkle Little Star but in different modes like Phyrgian and Dorian so we can hear the difference
Would be nice if all this mode talk could be applied to a song rather than just Modes in a Vacuum
There’s actually a video by a UA-camr that did this, they did the Flinstones theme and All Star in different modes, look it up it’s really useful!
He’s just telling you to play a mode over a chord that’s appropriate like if there is a 7 chord play mixo over it if there is a minor chord you could play Dorian Phrygian or aloian or a major chord with a ionian or Lydian y’all
This is just utterly brilliant stuff, Rick. Why couldn't my school music teacher have explained things like you do? Loving every minute of your YT channel.
Ohh by the way....your Son is truly amazing!!! Cant wait to see what kind of musical gifts that He is going to share with the human race.
Thank you for all your hard work.
Truly thankful for all that you are doing for us.🎼🎶🎸🔊🤯👍🏻
I get receive so much incredible information that
"Class is now in session" comes to mind whenever I watch your videos.
GPhrygian(3rd mode of Ebmaj) to BDorian(2nd mode of Amaj) is🔥🔥🔥That’s a dissonant modulation as Eb and A are a dissonant interval from each other (tritone). Outlining the mode is brutally important to achieving that dirty yet gentle sound. Or any desired modal sound IG. Respect to you sir. Your vids help me alot💪🏾
Rick, always appreciate your stuff. I'm a guitarist in LA, play and teach, plus take from a major studio ace our here; I always pick up something from any of your videos. Thank you and keep 'em coming. Love the way you break down the Wes vibe.
What a fantastic channel you have. Heavy material here, enough for hours of rewatching while trying to get these sounds. All the subjects of your videos seems to be very interesting, so much to study!
For those of us that do not read music it would be so helpful to see these chords on the piano roll as you describe them. Thank you for your videos.
Rick thanks so much for your channel! Amazing, quality instruction, super comprehensive/useful info. I actually was thinking the other day how cool it would be if there were videos that broke down great songs piece by piece and explained the theory behind them, only to find out you do exactly that in What Makes This Song Great! So awesome
Really good lesson. Really teaches the different ways to use extensions to indicate chord function and mode and using chords from different keys for a more complex and fresh sounding progression.
As a drummer your videos helps me a lot .Thank you
You are a true master!! Wonderful to watch and to hear you lay it down like it is
Gosh I needed to revisit this video. Seriously this is THE key to unlocking many other concepts that usually pass by in a flash (oh yeah this is a Lydian triad and now we ....)
Also this give meaning to certain aroeggio techniques. Id say this is probably more important and critical to understand than borrowing chords. If we change the modal coloring to different sections of a song, we can dramatically emphasize or downplay a certain aspect and set things up for an upcoming passage that would otherwise be the exact same chord progression.
For example if you have a simple I-IV-V, between this, changing register, inversions, time feel... You can guve depth to otherwise plain and uninteresting tunes. All without borrowing any chords, or changing keys (though you can also do those as well)
Tritones: In the key of C, F and B (the characteristic tri-tone interval), or 4 and 7 of the C Major Scale become intervallically displaced when the bass moves through the scale degrees/modes of the major scale.
C Ionian - 4, 7
D Dorian - b3, 6
E Phrygian - b2, 5
F Lydian - 1, #4
G Myxolydian - b7. 3
A Aeolian - b6, 2
B Locrian - b5, 1
Phrygian = b2
This started off really well and explanatory, and then you just started saying "This note, this mode," and playing some chord after each iteration.
That's where you lost the Teaching part, and me.
I agree - This is one of Rick's weakest segments.
This is why people like you and me listen to music rather than make it
@@willynilly6983 Actually it's not true. I have to say that if the modes are well explained it's something easy to understand. All my students understand them. Unfortunately this is an advanced video about mdoes and nobody tells it until min 4:07. Not even explained the 7 modes but we are already talking about modal modulation. Makes no sense.
I know this video is old but I think Rick should do 7 episodes one for each mode. Going in-depth on each one. So we can then understand why Dorian is the way it is, how to better use it, and what emotions can be pulled out of its structure.
I agree about rich content, I can almost grasp the concepts of the modes. Could you please caption all the notes for the all the modes. Its a bit over my head and i enjoy your explanation.
Thanks for the street knowledge, Rick. You’re making a difference in my life.
wow this is great stuff!!!!! I actually subscribed before the video was finished
It is interesting to hear the modes harmonically like this. This seems like a very "keyboardy" way of approaching modes, though. I feel like musicians on most other instruments would hear them in a more linear, melodic sense. Also, at the end of the video, is there a method to your choices of modal modulations? I can't decipher any pattern in the modulations- are you just arbitrarily picking random modes and mixing them? Or are there reasons behind these modulation choices? They all sound very interesting and colorful and I'd like to know more about why/how you choose your modulations. Which modal modulation types work best, and which work not so well?
Hi Alibi- I will be doing a video on modal modulations that will get into detail about that. I actually working on that now. Thanks!
Man, it is going to be weird learning more melodic instruments. I have barely strayed away from the piano.
Just found this channel. Wow. What a goldmine. Thanks Rick!
This video helped me understand the Lydian Chromaticism Concept. Thanks, Rick!
Thank you Rick Beato, your knowledge is admirable :)
Plz do more of these type of vids, and how and why and where to use them in any given comp. Since I'm wishing for...on bass? Lol, thanks for all you share Rick B.
The concept missing from the description of what makes each mode sound different is intervallic construction. That is: the patterns of steps and half steps from one note to the next unique to each scale.
George B. Wolffsohn, thank you.
I'm going to guess that he operates under the assumption that you know the structure of a major scale by now and can divine that information from there.
If he didn't make that assumption, each of these videos would be 40 minutes long.
That's it in a nutshell.
Yeah but you can figure them out by looking at the scales Rick played at the beginning of the video. You can figure out the patterns and then use them anywhere
What a clear explanation of modes. You are a really great teacher and player. Just subscribed.
So I stepped away from music for near as dammit a decade and I've gotta say that these Videos you've been doing have given me the hunger again. I'd hit a wall when I was trying in my own way to recapitulate a lot of the stuff you cover (intervals triads modes etc) but without any real solid theory or structure. So following that dejection and life getting in the way (I know, excuses excuses :P ) I stopped playing and composing (a very lofty way of describing me pissing around with logic and reason). But these videos you make have lifted the curtain on things that I was trying to strive for and not quite reaching because I didn't have the structured theory to work from. I feel like with this video in particular, I should be pausing and playing along. Seeing how to form these things and then identify them for myself. So, no more excuses. Hit the books (or, book), make reference notes in my own words and build this stuff for myself. Thanks.
Thanks Rick for yet another excellent video. Went by quick and I don't think I understand what you taught though. For sure the sound of moded used in chords is amazing. That's new to me.
This channel is a musicians gold mine.
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Thanks so much for working soooo hard to explain these intricacies to us mere commoners .
If more high functioning humans would do this for the rest of us, it would truly be a much more amazing planet!!! Thanks Bro!!!
thank you for all these videos they are super helpful! and easy to understand.
Bass note is also important along with the tones that vary amongst modes.
Probably the best music educator on youtube!
Used to learn these, back during my school days, but I have no clue how to even use them in music @_@ but I find this video very interesting, looking forward!
*Subbed!
Super informative video. Never got to this point of music theory. Thanks!
This is the best explanation of modes I've seen.
I thought I was alright at music theory til I subscribed to this channel. THANK YOU!!!
This is realy an important lesson to me ! Big thanks Rick !
Every time I'm in the mood to play, my wife is in the phrygid mode
Fullprops Have you tried the B(ack) dorian mode on her? ; D
Thanks for the advice, I'll either give that a try or go for the A holeian mode. Hope to C major progress soon ;)
Fullprops If all else fails, you might want to try the Neapolitan 6 though, admittedly, that might create a bit of tension which could, in the end, prove hard to resolve....
Too funny!!! :D
Fullprops Hilarious !!
I really appreciate lessons from you...I don't know how your videos essons help myself...I'm a jazz student pianist..
Thank you for this explanation! Helps my bass playing!
That was VERY eye opening. Thank you!
I am understanding this .... thank you. Opens up a much broader language to write from.
Would not have explored many of these sounds by ear.
Thank you Rick! That's just what I need :)
Thank you sir for making these...... It greatly appreciated
You're welcome!
Rick, you Are fantastiskt!!!
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Seems like most of us lost you pretty quickly lol
Great video Rick
I knew the modes already but this was still informative for me Rick, because of the way you incorporated chords! I am mainly a bass played and used the modes for improvisation. Thank you. Good video!
Best music theory UA-cam channel. Hands down.
I love your videos! Thank you!
I wish there was a Birdseye view of your hands over the chords, though. I find that helpful.
What I *think* I learned: modes are basically just major scale but with a different start point. It means that when you are in e.g. C major and play V chord of C major (the G chord), you can play notes from G Mixolydian with this chord to give it a special color. More specifically, Mixolydian has a lowered 7th, so to get the Mixolydian sound, you want to use this lowered 7th when playing yout V chord. And the same logic can be applied when using other modes.
That's what I gathered from the video. I am a total amateur though, so feel free to point out my mistakes!
Got it! 👍
Right! but not always from a starting point. Think of the lowest note as the starting point. The bass note determines what the other notes on top are. you can keep playing the same chord on guitar and as the bassist I can change the chord you are playing. That's a jazz trick to all those chords they play.
No. This is basically using modes as colour for chords. Actually writing true modal music is different (it's not covered in this video) - the entire melodic structure will be different.
Informative and useful but I wanted to hear the natural chords before the modal chords for comparison and palate cleansing.
Thank you for all your amazing content Rick. I've understood modes for a while, but am struggling to use modal chords on guitar specifically, besides the few common ones and the typical drone open strings, especially in metal (the classic overused open E, E Phrygian, not that it's bad, just want something more). I can do it much easier on piano, though I am a guitarist. I just feel caught up in the same voicings (like the Fmaj7 #11 open voicing, etc.) Any suggestions/tips? I only have 4 fingers on the fretboard! Not 10! haha unless I'm doing some two hand tapping xD I try to get creative with it.
Hope your channel takes off.
Thanks again for the great lessons.
I think about when I failed calculus. It's one of those things that unless you really pay attention and learn/memorize concepts early on in the course, you're just not going to get it as it builds on those concepts. It's like this with music theory with me. Going to find a dummies book and submerse myself with it and a pot of coffee until I actually understand the basics. Then revisit these videos.
some of these chords are mind blowing.
Being fluent on a keyboard instrument is extremely helpful when studying harmonies , modes and structures...
Ive been looking for a video like this... thanks
May be not your best explainations , but I really like what you are doing !
Thanks to teach everything you know .
Shake : ))
I like a lot of your videos and you mostly do a great job but I think this "how to use modal scales" is very poorly explained. For someone who doesn't already know the material and how modes are derived your scattershot approach is more confusing than enlightening. Maybe a little more work on this subject. (love your stuff with your son!)
orvillej1 as one person who was clueless about how modes were derived, the first minute or so taught me a ton. I think what he’s doing is aimed at people who play and don’t know theory, like me. Short of a 3hr video, this did a fine job of explaining why modes have their sound. My two cents.
Well, you can always pause and google. I actually like how he concentrates the enormous amount of information in his vids. Or just watch a ton of other people’s tuts to gain the same bucket of knowledge.
Personally, I started googling at like 0:01 of the video)
Аристарх “google what’s hot lanta”
@@tolikfilter If you have to google the very material the video's supposed to be presented, that's a failure as an explanatory video on a topic. This video really should have started with an explanation of the modes and how they're shifts of the major scale. He barely touched on that with playing C to C, D to D, E to E, etc, but he should have explained how the intervals are changing between the different notes/degrees of each mode. Without covering that, someone who doesn't know the modes is going to be lost from there on.
Comon guys, are you that lazy? Do some research yourself and try/practice it, If you don't hear what Rick is presenting I guess you're not ready for this
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i am enjoying the video but it would be even more useful if you had an overhead camera on the keyboard as well. thanks!
That's what the PDF is for :) I did shoot with a second camera but you need to use your ears, not eyes. Reading notation is fine because it's using a different part of the brain for analysis. I learned this by ear myself before I learned the theory and that was when you only had cassettes. I will have the PDF available soon. Check out my video on triads here. I put the music fight in the video :) thanks! Rick
Sorry, where can I download the PDF?
Rick, judging by some of the comments, it might have been helpful for people to understand the modal changes if you said which parent major scale each mode was in.
Doesn't do what it says on the tin. Starts off assuming one knows nothing (correct in my case), then jumps straight into abstract jargon.
Sir, All your videos are excellent and informative, Bravo!! In this particular one, it would have been great if we could see the piano and the notes played. Anyway. Please continue to enlighten us by sharing your knowledge and expertise. I am your biggest fan.
I can sense with my limited understanding that this comes from a deep understanding of musical theory. I wish I could grasp it more. I just don't know how. I am student of Indian classical music in which concept of raga is a central one, and it appears to map beautifully to the modes Rick presents. For instance, the Ionian mode appears to map onto the base scale for the raga "sankarabharanam", the dorian mode as "karaharapriya", and so on. These are massive ragas with incredible improvisational scope. What I found mind-blowing is that Rick has effortlessly shown how they are all derived from the same set of notes by shifting the tonic, and thus setting off a signature for the mode. Oh I wish I could learn from him!
Wow, I have hear about modes for many years, play by ear never really a learded a lot about theory ,nobody explained it good to me, Ric the first 2:74 minutes I understood what you were saying, boom it ckicked now I know the chords and the modes to play in all the keys ,
A nice way to voice Dorian in full (or even without the 5th) is *1 5 7 3 4 9 13*, or even *1 7 3 4 5 9 13*, super wide and those doubled up major 7th intervals make for a very rich hazy sound, probably my favourite voicings if I'm honest.
I actually prefer the first one without the 5th so like an *AGCDBF#*.
dammit i wish i played piano. i'm a guitarist and voicings are very esoteric.
I like the (mostly) open 5ths in a Dorian voicing... 1, 5, 9, 13, 3, 7, 4
Hi Rick! Your youtube channel is great! I would like to ask you, what is the best method/way to study all the modes, in all the keys, for a piano student...any suggestion? I mean, how, or where to start...it could be a mess for a beginner ...
If anyone is confused it’s not your fault! Some of the videos i’ve seen with rick should mention that prerequisite or advanced theory is required otherwise it’s not serving most beginners\intermediate. Maybe Rick is so conditioned to be teaching advanced theory he’s not recognizing how confusing he can be. I’ve known theory for years, and regarding the few videos i’ve seen rick teach his talents are not in explaining theory in ways that’s easy to understand. There are easier ways to explain this information. I don’t mean any disrespect, because everything else Rick does is brilliant and I appreciate everything he does.
Love your videos Rick!
Do you have any video that explains modes from scratch?
Thank you Rick Beato!...
I like to think of a Scale, like C major for example, as a machine or tool. Modes then are literally different settings or (modes) of the tool.
Beautiful lesson ! Thanks !
Would really help to see the piano as you play, love your vids 👏
It's like posting a video "Showing how the clutch works" and its just a drifting
Have you ever thought about talking just a little bit of opera and connecting it to your theory training? There's the Hendrix chord. And then there's the Tristan chord. Something to expand our knowledge and our musical vocabulary? Your theory junkies might be up for it.
I just realized this when diving into music theory on my own a few months ago and had my mind blow. Super cool to see you breaking it down
really nice job - it is still just above my head, but I am getting there
I love the headings of your videos 😂
This is very very very helpful... Thank You Very Much..
You’re a godsend Rick
I love these chord voicings. That is what is missing from so many rock guitar instructors’ videos on modes. If there is any consideration of chords, it is usually restricted to, for example, if playing in D Dorian, play a Dm chord. Don’t dare introduce any concepts beyond that. His or her brain might explode.
Its too late in the night to be watching this 😂 I'll return tommorow
I am juuuust starting to get this stuff now. Up until now I was going only by ear when I would accidentally hit a wrong note and hear a different mode. Doing it on purpose is a much better and more efficient method, hehe. Still, how do you know what two modes will sound good one after the other? Is it as simple as just writing a single note base progression, then picking modes for each note and deciding what chords go on top from there? Or is there a nice compendium of modes that follow well after each other? Or is it just something you experiment to taste? Still have so much to learn. Great vids!
Great video, thank you!
Rick, now I get it, thank you 👍