yapping about Full Moon for 56 minutes and 10 seconds
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Yes I used League footage, yes I will do it again. Idk if anything I said in this makes sense but if you think it does that's cool, and if you think it didn't that's awful. I am also sorry for how unedited this is I wanted to get this out before I am gone for 2 weeks. :)))
I can't believe this episode was hyped up so much only for the conversation between Stolas and Blitzø to happen right at the end of the episode because for some reason both Cherubs and DHORKS were added into the plot.
I was saying the exact same thing, bro, the DORKS and CHERUBS sub-plot should have been its own episode! And would have been a very good one!
But what makes everything worse is the fact that it was hyped up to be a well-polished episode, releasing on the last week of May, and we get this.
@@lightjones9894exactly they should’ve made the episode only about blitz and stoles and made a separate one for the cherubs and DHORKS
I was actually gonna skip that episode because I'm not a huge Stolitz fan, but seeing the cherubs and humans on the thumbnail made me change my mind.
Stolitz getting _less_ focus than advertised? I never would have expected that.
Starting off pride month with the return of worst gay couple ever has to be a bad omen
June might be rough guys. Take care.
Let this guy cook🗿
Hopefully they both actually break-up, but we've seen how the show loves the drama time and time again 💀
👏👏👏👏save us Crowley and Azirphale
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I hate how everyone demonizes Blitz. If people would actually take a single second to think about the context of Stolitz people would be horrified by how horribly Stolas treats Blitz.
My guess is that characters with unrequited love are more sympathetic to people because its more relatable to many
so they brush aside all the other issues because they want the character they relate to succeed
Hehe demonizes
It’s weird because Stolas does acknowledge in the song that trapping Blitz would make him a monster, but then he starts crying when Blitz finally lays out how he feels lol
Stolas is basically heartbroken because his sex worker didn't catch feelings
@@BingBong-gt6oh it's a matter of expectation vs reality. Of course he would be hurt and idk why ppl are pissed for the fact he felt hurt.
My biggest problem is:
Blitz: Your not pushing me away! We're having a conversation! You cant get away with being an ass just bc your a prince!
Stolas: lol im about to end this conversation rn using my princely powers
Yeah, and also.
“I thought so highly of you! I didn’t think you thought so low of me!”
My thoughts on this line: Did f**king Gabbie Hanna write this?
Seriously though, that line pisses me off because it comes off as Stolas (and by extension the show) trying to blame Blitzø even though what Blitzø said was valid. I get that he’s done shit to Stolas too, but it’s like, Stolas does act super flirty with him almost every time they talked with each other.
And this is coming from someone who doesn’t care too much for Blitzø as a character. I don’t hate him, but I don’t really like him either. I do still standby the fact that Stolas is the one who essentially has him in a metaphorical stranglehold as he’s the one who says that Blitzø can only have the book if he has sex with him. This line is written like “oh, they had so much chemistry with each other, when in season 1, they really didn’t.
@@BreadIsABlessingI think Stolas was either being irrational or wanted some time to process the info presented to him
I mean he also ran out of happy pills @@torna2508
@@BreadIsABlessingTHISS
This relationship is so badly written i legitimately think theit happy endings is never speak to each other ever again. When have they ever actually talked normally? Give me one normal conversation they had that dosent involve sex. They should just separate and heal far apart from each other. If i wanted a badly written forbidden romance I'd watch star wars 2 cause at least they had conversations.
Seriously this is just melodramatic, i loved the show and i just want it back, I'm just tired of Stolitz, I'm tired of melodrama, i don't want to stop caring but i can't say I'm exited for the next episode. I love the characters but they don't even interact anymore, cause Stolitz is all that matters expect they don't talk either
The ending scene is very very good but the last bit of it falls so hard on its face in having Stolas literally victimize himself as a response to Blitz literally spelling it out for him on how SHIT Stolas has been treating him for like a year!! Like yes Blitz has fucked up but in comparison to Stolas, Stolas HAS WAY more to apologize and atone for. His horrendous behavior is objectively worse because he’s the one in power and he’s the one who started the deal in the first place. All Blitz has done was do his best to survive and keep hsi business afloat, he didn’t owe Stolas his love or attention and Stolas shouldn’t have been all “woeee is meeee :c” after being told that he IS in fact a rich pompous asshole who has abused his power over Blitz, even if he wasn’t fully aware of it. I entirely DREAD apology tour because the way it looks like is Blitz will be the only one who will pay for his actions and that’s so unfair. Like it will take me out tjr show entirely if we saw Stolas pissed off at Blitz for DARING to stand up for himself and rightfully so! It’s just so urghhh like you can tell who Viv’s fave is lol
Viv clearly stated that there's also major issues with Stolas' behavior. The writers are clearly portraying Stolas as flawed. People get hung up on Stolas crying with sad music in the background and immediately think "the show wants us to think Stolas can do no wrong and you always have to be sympathetic to him". Obviously it's so much more nuanced than that. People who are bad can also cry.
@@gigachad3925 Im not saying Stolas can’t mess up, interesting characters should be flawed and that’s perfectly fine, I have no qualms with that. What My problem is what is the point of the narrative acknowledging that Stolas is well enough aware of how much he’s been hurting Blitz all this time but when Blitz finally got to say his piece of the discussion he’s almost immediately shut down and kicked out? Why should we as the audience believe that Stolas truly thinks highly of blitz and respects him as a individual when 90% of their screentime has been Stolas demeaning and fetishizing Blitz? Why should Blitz be framed in the wrong and APOLOGIZE for defending himself against his abuser? For being coerced into a relationship he never actually wanted and even if he eventually learned to accept and make the best of these less than fortunate circumstances, that still doesn’t make it any less NOT okay?
Stolas has been literally told the same thing before in a much NICER way from Blitz back in Ozzies, and Stolas still somehow comes to the conclusion that it’s BLITZ who always makes it about sex when it’s literally the other way around. Stolas assumes what is best for Blitz, never actually asking him what he wants, and gets pissy for being told off despite the fact that everything that was said about him is TRUE. Stolas cries because Blitz was being cruel when that couldn’t be further from the truth. Viv absolutely cannot seriously insist that they’re BOTH wrong when they’re consistently portrayed as NOT equals throughout the show and within its themes.
Stolas will always hold immeasurable power over Blitz, Blitz will always have to submit to his wishes, even if that’s not Viv’s intention, the uncomfortable power dynamic just there and it cannot be ignored. And it’s dangerous and irresponsible to imply that Blitz should be held just as accountable as Stolas and fans wonder why so many people are uncomfortable and furious by the writing decisions.
@@gigachad3925much like the video is explaining, we can see stolas is flawed but the narrative seems to pity him and he’s recontexualized as a victim at every turn.
it would be refreshing to see him have to apologize or be treated as truly terrible for once, much like blitz is constantly but it seems like the show is more interested with him being super sympathetic so eh
@@vanessaheart3529 to start off: no, there's no abuser x victim status. Just to take that out of the way
@@VintageToilet I see what you mean. I guess I can only chalk up our difference in perspective to the ways in which we engage with media. Watching the show, I've always seen Stolas presented as deeply flawed and called out as bad whenever he truly is. Of course there's plenty of times where he's portayed as sympathetic, but generally I find those to be justified (e.g. him being abused by Stella/him being misled by Blitz). Just to be clear I'm not saying your way of interpreting things is "wrong" just because I don't agree with it. If anything your perspective is more valid since more people share it.
My personal take is that people take the scenes where Stolas is narratively justified for being portrayed as sympathetic, and project that onto the instances where there's genuine issues with his behavior, as if both can't coexist. I think it should be possible for us to simultaneously recognize Stolas portrayed as delusional/manipulative towards Blitz and sad/sympathetic in his contending with abuse/being emotionally taken advantage of.
The argument between Blitzo and Stolas was written very wrong for me, like it felt it was trying to victim blame Blitzo for…*Sigh*…for making Stolas cry because he called him out on their relationship between them, i think he was trying to blossom an genuine relationship but he felt like a Big Hypocrite.
It should’ve been the comeback of the cherubs, like the Mecha suits were badass (Wish Loona had her own mecha suit and wish they had more of angelic exterminator appearance though) where they try to break Into Asmodeus’s place to get the crystals for the Dhorks, where The I.M.P vists Fizzaroli for some items for Stolas, and Fizzaroli tells Blitzo about the lore about asmodeus crystals when explains the times in the store, then Boom battle breaks out, then the day is saved, and we need a Hint what the Dhorks are planning, while we get a hint for Stolas ending the relationship and giving the crystal to Blitzo, anyways thanks for the yapping!
the show has a HUGE show don't tell problem AND a continuity problem.
i was highkey hoping to hear you talk about this episode as soon as it was released because a lot of your opinions are opinions that i agree with.
now, i've watched it, and i think the relationship ending IS both blitzø's and stolas' fault since neither of them fully listen to each other,
butttttt
there are WAYYYYY too many people defending stolas' whole “why does blitzø only want me for sex ?” feelings when stolas LITERALLY ALWAYS wanted to fornicate with blitzø at almost ANY GIVEN MOMENT. and in MANY of those times, blitzø looked very uncomfortable (esp in the first episode and in the one where octavia is first introduced. that whole episode was really really weird.)
ALSO stolas is a HUUUUUGE hypocrite and a gaslighter too !! because !! when blitzø finally let out how he felt about stolas' “i have feelings for u” speech, and him thinking stolas wasn't being serious (because, again, stolas for a WHILE only wanted blitzø for sex) stolas didn't even apologize ?? stolas' ONLY response to blitzø's feelings was “i DiDn'T kNoW yOu thOugHt sO lOw of mE !!1!1” girl, boo fucking hoo and womp fucking womp. i'm probably going to drop this show if the next episode is trash.
And people defend him with "but divorce" like he wasn't the one who called Blitzo over, if he was unstable cause of the divorce then don't invite Blitzo to confess. The man's 30
@@kaylaHat RIGHT
i think im mainy mad about the “blitz, i think so higly of you” because NO YOU DONT????? the ONLY times you have interacted with this man was either in a “oooooo blizty sexxx” or a “aww you’re so cute for an ity bity imp” typa way. you ONLY ever belittle him for fetishize him dawg
You should give up watching now, it's not worth it and Octavia is going to say "Why do you love him but not me?".
Yeah Stolas is written to be a hypocrite and oblivious of the deep issues with their relationship. Unless you have an issue with shows portraying flawed characters, I wouldn't drop the show over that. Don't confuse the writers clearly depicting Stolas' flaws with the writers agreeing with him. Too many people do that.
The only parts that truly mattered is were the Stolas and Blitz scenes, it honestly should have just been a short. The pacing was pretty bad in the B plot should have been its own episode because of how out of place it appeared.
How much of a failure of a writer do you have to be where some fans are PRAISING you because they think your weak attempt at sympathizing with Stolas was actually trying to expose him as an abuser.
Any fan who thinks Viv wants us to think Stolas and Blitzo are equally wrong are fooling themselves and I can’t wait to see how they react to “Apology Tour” where stolas is the victim and Blitzo is the toxic one. They’ll also villanize Verosika as well probably
Edit: at least I was wrong about Verosika lol
I’m so tired of fandoms taking the most privileged characters and reducing them down to “wittle beans 🥺” who can do no wrong. And it looks as if Viv likes to react to fandom behavior, so she’ll adopt fandom behavior and did so with Stolas. He will never be held accountable for his actions, because Viv doesn’t see his actions as wrong
@@Nigh_TemptationI think Viv projects really hard on Stolas. She’s also a rich person (or at least well off, because she’s going on weekly vacations) who constantly victimizes herself, Stolas is practically a self insert
@@Birdyboys yeah i wouldnt be surpised if Viv was a nightmare ex, based on the way she writes relationships lol
@@Nigh_TemptationGod, same here. ☠️
@@BirdyboysStolas being a self insert makes a lot of sense because his horrific actions are rarely challenged and he’s always seen as the victim, lol.
The CHERUBS episode is very overhated, in my opinion.
CHERUBS was one of my favorite episodes! I also didn’t find the Cherubs as funny in this episode which was disappointing. It was probably because they didn’t interact with IMP outside of the fight scene so they didn’t really get a chance to play off of each other as well as they did last time.
Right?! Cherubs had plot holes but it was supposed to be comedic so who cares?? It was funny! And you know what isn't funny? Saying "sex" without build up or punchline, just "haha sex", and i know the writers can do better cause Cherubs exists
I’m actually gonna go out on a limb and say that Cherubs is my favorite episode of the series.
Mainly for one major reason.
The original concept of Helluva Boss (at least as far as I understand) was a fun comedy with the rag tag assassin team from hell who are killing targets who were ordered to be killed by sinners.
CHERUBS is my favorite episode because it’s the episode that, I feel, is able to show the most of what you can do with the concept. You have the disguises, and the fact that the target is an old rich inventor. If the show had remained as an episodic comedy show (or had saved the drama for later, tho I personally would prefer it to stay as a comedy) There is a ton of potential, with what kind of target they get. Maybe they get possibly an occultist who already worships demons and possibly is flattered that he is going to be killed by these demons? Or possibly they have to kill a famous politician? There’s potential with that.
And on top of that, the introduction of the CHERUBS, you now have reoccurring antagonists you could use. The only change I’d make is have them not get kicked out of heaven. Now there are potential stories you could tell with them. Remember the occultist idea? Maybe you could have The Cherubs and IMP run into a moral conflict, where the Cherubs argue “Thou Shalt Not Kill” but IMP argue that the guy is an occultist who maybe sacrifices people or something. Maybe even have a funny scene like this.
(Context: Cherubs stopped IMP from murdering the guy when he’s about to give a speech.)
Cletus: You can’t kill him! Takin’ a life is just as bad as takin’ a dozen lives! Doesn’t matter who it is, it’s still murder!
Keenie: Yeah, it’s unholy!
Moxxie: (looking at something on his phone.) Uhm, sir? I think you should see this.
(A video was playing. The occultist was on a stage, holding a saber.)
Occultist: Bring out the sacrifices!
(18 people with bags over their heads are brought out, each line up so that there are 3 rows, six in each. They are all told to bend down on their knees. The occultist then kills them, one at a time.)
Cletus: (in utter shock.) Oh my…
Keenie: (covers her eyes.) I can’t watch!
Collin: (clutches his stomach.) I feel nauseous! (He throws up offscreen.)
Blitzø: (feeling very smug.) hey, remember that crack ya made about how offing one nasty son of a bitch is just as bad as killing a dozen of ‘em? Well, look at how many people are fuckin’ dying because o’ what ya did. Don’t wanna say I Told ya so, but uhh…Told ya so! (IMP leave to kill the guy.)
Collin: (contemplating about how they were the ones who saved that guy.) What are the repercussions of what we’ve just done? I feel filthy!
Sorry for the long comment!
@@BreadIsABlessingI legit read all of Cletus' lines in his voice outloud. 😂.
This episode leaves me questioning if we should take the antagonists in the show seriously or not cause if the main cast don't see them as a threat, why should we?
We're not supposed to especially the humans, we're supposed to be stupid and lose to the heroes & main cast.
I still dream of the day the show will introduce an antagonist that can wreck I.M.P's shit.
Not only that but they end up getting nerfed or joked about like what they did with Striker. Like even some of their villains act the same.
Hope you get to yap about Apology Tour once you get back
I'm honestly very interested to hear his thoughts and the direction this episode took. I already see people misunderstanding it though, as painting Stolas entirely in the right though, so... sighhh 😕😕
@@VenIGuess look at the merch sales and look at how the narrative doesn’t do much to push back on the things he’s saying.
Perhaps in the future he will be shown as “wrong” but right now it seems very heavily skewed in his favor.
I said merch sales when I mean merch designs.
Oh thank God, for a moment I was worried I wouldn't have a video to eat lunch to. What was I supposed to do? Eat in silence? Live in the moment? Listen to my own thoughts? NEVER! Not when my favorite yapper has posted. Thank you for saving me. ❤
I was worried I'd have to play Minecraft in silence
They outlined blitzo’s problem in truth seekers during his acid trip. That he can’t fathom/understand proper intimacy but also wants it. So it manifests in stuff like spending a day fighting his exgirlfiend for a parking spot, his overprotectiveness of Luna, and how much he interrupted moxie and Millie’s happy couple shenanigans.
The problem is all of this is exclusive to s1.
Had s2 bothered to even have one episode or even scene where Stolas attempted to make it not about sex, to have a moment or a day together, and Blitzo completely misinterprets is, then I could see Stolas at least making sense with his diatribe at the end.
I mean no we see that in s2 too.
We see that in Ozzie's, Seeing Stars it is romantic too, Looloo Land it's romantic even if unwanted flirting, etc.
I mean it did bother with that.
I feel like comparing the Stolas and Blitz argument with the straight up abuse of Stella and Stolas is very victim blamey.
I completely understand where Blitz came from. Stolas has been nothing but condescending, classist, and just straight up only makes everything about sex and then a surprise when Blitz is confused. I could go on for hours about how horrible stolas is to Blitz.
It pisses me off how stolas is always portrayed as a victim🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ he’s never reprimanded (at least in the 2nd season)
I hate how the show is basically trying to retcon Stolas and Blitz relationship, as Stolas being this uwu soft guy, who just happens to have a lot of bad stuff going on with him, and Blitz being the one who takes advantage of him and is in the wrong for not reciprocating the same feelings as Stolas (when its Stolas fault for everything being so messy since he is the one who was always overly s3xual and often referred to blitz as his play thing. So i agree with you when you said you couldn't take the line “I think so highly of you, I didn’t realize you thought so low of me” seriously, i couldn't either , because Stolas never gave a reason to him a reason to see him in such a positive light lol.
Dhork and cherubs teaming up is a good idea on paper but in this episode it felt so weird since the A and B plot, feel like totally different episodes, both in tone and how it connects to the Stolitz storyline.
Honestly this show is going downhill after they decided to put so much focus on Stolitz and retcon Stolas into a more soft character, that is held accountable for the bad things he does
But it isn't retconning their relationship, except he isn't soft or flawless, well he also messed up himself and all of that was apparent in season 1 too, except it isn't saying that Blitz is all in the wrong or that he completely takes advantage of him or is wrong for not reciprocating the same feelings as Stolas (it's not all his fault as Blitz could have helped too and he wasn't being entirely fair to Stola and Stolas wasn't always sexual to Blitz either to be fair.) I disagree, Stolas despite not treating Blitz a a true equal at times did clearly care for him and thinks of him highly as we see in full moon and The Circu. And Stola does give reasons to him a reason to see him in at least a sort of positive light with how much Stola clearly cares about him.
I disagree it really didn't feel weird and they felt like the same episode tbh, tone wise they feel like the same episode just different subplots and they both didn't have to connect to the Stolitz storyline.
Nah it really isn't like how is it getting wore? And the focu on Stolitz isn't that bad really and they didn't retcon Stolas into a more soft character he is still the same character, and he is held accountable for the bad things he does.
Your yapping is valid tho, other than the Imp crew and Stolas everybody else seems to be completely background characters even though they're presented as rather important characters like Stella in Octavia.
Wrt Stella specifically, it bothers me so much how intentionally demonized she is when is reality she is literally just the royal breeding machine. She is rightfully frustrated and struggling to find power where there is literally none. Yes Stolas is sort of in the same scenario, but he at least has full power in his throne. Stella is essentially nothing? But instead the show makes her a monster rather than dig into the more realistic possibility that she's become someone who survives through anger and takes her frustration out on the person who is pretty much going along with using her 🤷♀️ But writing/empathizing with victimized women is too hard apparently lol Wish I could relate!
her anger at stolas was VERY justified. he literally CHEATED on her. its so simple and yet the show acts like she is COMPLETELY in the wrong
off topic, but the fact that you said "i think I've been talking for, like, exactly 39 minutes now" RIGHT whenever the video reaches the 39 minute mark makes me really happy
The things that i hate the most is that this ep has completaly shift the blamo of the stolitzø ship all on blitzø, they have been taking away every bas thing about stolas to make him be the inocent guy, they made his cheating on stella mean nothing becouse he never loved her and she never loved him and she is a bitch, they usualy avoid his development with octavia and they even have the excuse of "he never wanted her", they excused his sexual herassment on blitzø in the circus ep making the excuse that he is like that becouse he thinks blitzø likes it anr they avoid all the moments stolas uses his social status against blitzø calling him his little play thing, saying that he doesn't understand his job becouse he is a imp and even hiding his face after being called out for dating a imp.
And in this ep now they blame blitzø saying that he is the one that only likes sex they blame him for not knowing stolas personal information when he goes shopping, and blame blitzø for calling stolas out when he was right about every word hi said. They even say that stolas was the one avoiding blitzø when thats the other way around,blitzø avoids stolas after ossies stolas flert with him os seeing stars, he calls him for help in western energy and even text him on his phone and blitzø doesn't respondo our go see him becouse BLITZØ IS THE ONE AVOIDING HIM AFTER OSSIES!
Stolas is the abuser, he starts to basicaly black mail blitzø to have sex with him if he wants to keep the book, he constantly force himself on blitzø even when he clearly doesn't like it and he see him as a toy becouse his just a imp. He is manipulating blitzø and making him have sex with him against his will and now he is the cute uwu man that only wanta love and blitzø is the bad one becouse he doesn't love him back and think he is a asshole becouse he is rich. Great,amazing makes so much fucking sense.
And as someona that has been in a abusive relationship before this desgustes me, that a show would change its on story just to excuse the bas actions of a abuser just becouse HEY THE FANS THINKS HE IS THE CUTE UWU YAOI PROTAGONIST SO HE CAN DO NO WORNG!!
Also i know a lot of people say that maby this is intentional, to show that stolas is a hypocrat and all, but becouse the show has been excusing him and his bad actions ever sinse the circus i don't think this is intentional for the story, the writers of the show just don't have the spine to calling stolas out anymore becouse he is the fan favorite now, they did it on ossies before the switch but not anymore
Damn you just made me realize that they tried to show in this episode that Stolas is avoiding Blitzø when it was actually Blitzø avoiding Stolas all this time.
Jesus christ I actually read the text massages sent to Blitzø by Stolas because something wasn't adding up in my head
He is the one asking for the meetings, when he tells Blitzø its ok if he doesn't come Blitzø goes with it
And that happens multiple times
HOLY SHIT IS THIS SHOW GASLIGHTING US OR WHAT??
the thing Loona told Blitzø this episode should've been directed to Stolas instead
Blitzø avoided them having sex for at least few months, and now they try to tell us Stolas is the one who's been avoiding it?? WHAT
@@aaa5126 i know right! They just reversed the situation and espected no one to notice it
Dude I literally said while I was watching the episode “FP is gonna drop like an hour long video on this shit” and I was right
The thing with DHORKS that's always confused me is....why would it be bad FOR DEMONS if humans learned about hell? Sure it'd absolutely change the structure of the human world, but how would it change things in hell? It's not like humans would go all doomslayer on them- even if they tried we've established demons can't be killed by human weapons and I don't think that heaven would be willing to work with them considering how Adam acts. The show builds up a big threat of humans finding out about demons, but I can't think of a reason it'd be an actual threat to the demons.
I like to think that, by learning about hell, less people will be prone to sin. If less people sin, less people go to hell, and if less people go to hell, its economy gets weaker.
It would be nice if It was actually shown though 😭
@@Idk-qd6kfbut from what I’m understanding, Hell’s Overpopulated, that’s why the exterminations happen yearly. So, wouldn’t that be beneficial to Hell?
@@BreadIsABlessing The overpopulation only really affects sinners, though.
Anyone else, expecially the higher-ups, benefits from there being a lot of people in hell.
@@BreadIsABlessing The "overpopulation" dosen't even exist lol, it was retcooned so that adam made up the excuse when Sera told him to make sure hell dosen't plan to rebel, it was never about the number because it wouldn't make sense in the first place to have hell , a seemengly infinite land of mass be overpopulated.
I feel like Vivzie has understood how to perfectly bait her fanbase onto the show.. because were getting promises in the titles and then the actual episode mostly revolves around other stuff. And always unsatisfying cuts or cliff hangers to drag an argument for longer than it needs to.
More likely, it's her adhd direction and bad writers and the exhausting juvenile sex jokes.
@@tylere.8436 and the fans fueling her ego. Like she literally gives them what they want in her own show-
I remember how everyone was sooooo worried about Stolas because episode 4 ended with him in the hospital. But then he was just completely fine two episodes later, after one week passed in the show. It really didn't matter at all, it was just a lazy and cheap cliffhanger
@@snakesareamazing Right?!!!!! Its so frustrating...
Same, my opinion on season 2 gets worse every time I have to re-watch the earlier episodes with the exceptions of Mamon's mid-season special and X's and O's.
Did you forgot oops? It was a pretty good episode
@@_ShiAngel Not really the episode had the one same problem I had with man in the season special and that is Blitz being honestly just shoehorned into the episode poorly and he really didn't need to be in the episode unless it was he was written into it better, of course.
You know for an episode that took forever and was hyped up to be really emotional there was a whole lot of nothingness in the episode, only the ending really matter, you can skip the rest tbh
Unrelated not but idk why people keep saying terms like “breaking up” for stolitz as if they were ever a couple in the first place?? They were just involved in a sexual affair not once were they ever actually together😭😭😭
Funnily enough, minor spoilers
Apology Tour starts with Blitzo and Stolas having a conversation that they should’ve had in Full Moon.
I have to be honest, the more I watch helluvaboss, the more I realize that it’s really wasted potential. It could have been so good but it’s kind of just devolving into daddy issues, jokes and a love story that is barely developed. She has all these wonderful voice actors and she’s squandering potential.
At most only a year has passed by because the Ozzies episode was Milli's and Moxie's 1 year anniversary.
im not done watching the video, but like 25:10 - YEAH I BURST OUT LAUGHING WHEN THAT LINE HIT IN THE EPISODE AND THEN I WAS SO SURPRISED TO SEE EVERYONE GOING CRAZY OVER IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. it really is "he can get hurt?" levels of dumb 😭
also, my opinion on that ending argument hinges entirely on the next episode. if the story acknowledges stolas' wrongs, then it'll be good, but if it doesn't, then the ending of this episode will definitely be soured for me in hindsight
How did Stolas know Blitz was in danger in dhorks but not in oops when he was kidnapped by Moxxie 2.0 and striker
Man I’m stick of stolas bs and him taken over the whole show and also ass writing to not mention the events at Ozzie’s and western energy
Pls dont apologise for yapping these vids are so entertaining! Also ur impressions are on point I laughed at every one lolll
I actually love that little idea of D.O.R.K.S searching Stolas instead of Blitz! It would make more sense!
And great video, it was fun hearing it while i was drawing.
That may be true but then again who wants to believe that the first several episodes of season 2 ever existed, especially Unhappy Campers and Western Energy!
Stolitz is such a compelling and thoughtful pairing being set up in entirely the wrong show tbh.
(Rant oncoming) Like -- Stolas is an idealistic lover but maintains this horrible, predatory power imbalance with the man he loves. Blitzo wants to give in to this idealism because he desperately desires companionship, but he's not blind to this power imbalance and ultimately doesn't know what to make of Stolas' hypocritical back-and-forth.
It's something that feels weirdly personal to me, to the point the talk at the end of Ozzie's legitimately made me cry. Full Moon had me actively clapping while Blitzo went off. Their whole relationship just has these intermittent emotional gut punches that hit SO good, but they never feel earned. There's scenes we never got to see happen, like ffs I still don't know what Blitzo LIKES about Stolas besides the fact he's lonely and wants the freedom to be vulnerable with someone again.
The kicker for me though, is that this is such a morally gray ship presented in such an unambiguously morally driven show. It's the same show where we need to hear Asmodeus monologue about consent, where we need Moxxie to get taught in plain text about letting his wife take the spotlight sometimes, etc. etc. A lot of people seem to have come away from the ending scene of Full Moon asking, "What *morally* is this trying to say?" That ultimately the only *right* way to do this pairing is to have Stolas be held morally accountable. And this being supplemented with the entire season woobifying him... I loved the scene but I understand why it'd leave people worried about the future ramifications it has.
Frankly I liked seeing Stolas get emotional, and I hate that his getting emotional has to be viewed as some moral statement about victimhood or abuse. But this is Helluva Boss, so of course that's what people are gonna take from it. Idk I kinda just wish there was some version of this ship where Stolas was allowed to just... be a terrible person, and Blitzo was allowed to want him, and maybe the end state of their relationship would still be this deplorable toxic mess (or a slightly less deplorable toxic mess) but it'd at least be a compelling story about two authentic people.
None of the contradictions/framing issues/whatever the frick ppl dislike about Full Moon would be an issue if the show hadn't repeatedly seemed to assert that endgame Stolitz had to be completely healthy.
Thoughtful write-up.
Yeah, I don't blame people who don't believe that Stolas being a hypocrite is intentional. Viv might be the type of writer who wants her characters to be morally grey, but is too attached to them to have them do anything truly wrong, at least not counting what the show plays as black comedy.
@@Corrector1 Nah it seems intentional, the ep description even hints at it.
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I really did like Blitz going off at Stolas at the end but I hate how everyone only talks about the stupid Stolas line lmao. Also I agree that having characters like the Dhorks agents show up more with minor roles would be great. They even showed that they’re capable of doing that this episode since Fizz showed up for a scene so I don’t see why they haven’t done this with other characters outside of the main cast.
Holy shit dude you really hit the nail on everything. I really want to like Stolitz, but the writers make it so hard. Stolas’ victim complex with Blitz could be interesting, if not for the fact that they paint him in the right.
Imo it would've cut a lot of unnecessary time if we saw Cherubs get grabbed by DHORKS, funding, (maybe the suits but i think we can see them in the bg) and then explanation of "we made a portal to hell but it's only two feet tall and wide" and but that's all so for the rest of the episode we switch between blitzo and moxxie milllie and loona following him and then cherubs showing up bc it it'd be kinda funny to spend time questioning if all these ppl we see might be cherubs or if IMP is cherubs in disguise building up anticipation and then they make their entrance. The loona fursuit can then be funnier by the end bc we're probably wondering "where's loona? They saw her right?" And we get out answer
But FP, if the episode was actually focused on the IMP like everyone wanted, how could Vivziepop have her OCs be the main focus before the forced drama scenes of her fav ship that make literally no sense?
STELLA AFTON?
I know one of the most important things in a character's journey is to keep them away from their end goal for as long as you can, but jfc viv, not like THIS 💀💀💀
Blitz did nothing wrong in the ending scene. Literally one of the very few times I'm actually on his side. The echo effect was kinda corny though. And since Blitz is always yelling it wasn't the shocking heavy hitter Viv wanted.
I’m very glad how much this episode actually progressed the plot, dorks and cherub coming back and Stolas admitting he’s been possessive were all things I’ve been wanting for ages.
I think that if the dialogue at the start just felt a little more natural, and Blitzo’s horniness was just toned down, this would genuinely be the best episode so far.
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13:26 The episdoe of the murder family they completed the job, they also killed the old man and defeted the cheerubs. Also they managed to protect Luna and Stolas at the festival (also destroyed the circus but no one ever knew who did that).
When Cletus and Keenie say they know about the Exorcists, it's not really a contradiction. The exorcists are not a secret, the exterminations were. They are heaven's security and military. Cletus and Keenie probably just assumed exorcists killed hellborns coming up to earth.
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I don’t know how Stolas can say that when their entire thing built off of sex this is why I liked Stolas in the pilot
I dont know if the Stolitz plot has to do with this, but Ive noticed that each new episodes have been getting less and less views . I guess people are getting less interested in Helluva Boss, which is quite a shame tbh
Nope, someone did a viewership report for Helluva Boss and this episode was pretty much average compared to the rest of the show: docs.google.com/document/d/1Qol5QaoKiQjT45s-QZGvdZSXxj2An40A-uIIn_oLIxc/edit
If anything, the only reason it was slower to climb is because it wasn’t advertised as much as previous episodes. Which is probably because people kept trying to leak content.
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I don't even know who you're talking about.
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@@tylere.8436What the Hell you are saying with this comment?
51:15 idk why but the way you said it was so funny
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Yeah, sometimes it seems like the series(the writers) forgets about itself.
I just miss episode 6 Stolas so much.
What happened to him?
It's good to have you back, fp
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38:55 YOUR UA-camR BRAIN WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT
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You have a good point, why Didn't D.H.O.R.K.S. make more of an appearance in the background. Hellvua Boss Season2 was a hit or mess: it felt like they were jumping around too much. you make some valid points. HB lacks connecting scenes. Season 2, hits differently, like when Stolas accues Blitz that all he thinks about is sex. Season 1: was better then Season 2. There is so much that was left for fans to figure out. Stolas is giving me mixed signals. Blitz being upfront is a major step for the scarlet imp. S2: HB lacks focus. I know, Hopefully S3: has more S1 vibes.
Honestly. I kinda wished that this ep less of the CHERUBS, tbh. I think it would have been better if it was more focused on Stolas and Blitzø.
And I mean. Only focused on them. I think the climax was pretty well written? But it felt like it lacked a lot of buildup from prior episodes imo; it kinda gets frustrating when you really think about it.
Viv seems to work best with dramatic endings and such. Which is fine? But she fumbles with build up and substance. Probably why so much of s2 feels so rushed and awkward.
I just wish it focused at anything, it's too reliant on A/B plots and develops neither properly.
@@tylere.8436 Omg, yeah. S2 has SO many A Plot / B Plot things. Maybe this is why it's been lacking because I'm pretty sure S1 was always straight forward. This episode was legit so important and I honestly thought they'd drop the formula for this 😭
24:17 holy moly jumpscare warning
Edit: and at 36:37
Holy moly!
50:54 it's okay ❤❤
Edit: ily :)
This episode sucks, except that scene where loona shaking her ass
She doesn't even have an axx.
i like listening to you yap
Waited for this episode to come out just to hear your commentary tbh
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My last relationship was weirdly similar to this whole Stolitzø drama these last two episodes...
It feels so bizarre seeing people side with Stolas after his casual racism, sexual abuse and refusal to take accountability for his shitty actions...
What was the worst Blitzø did? Attempt to steal the Grimoire? Actually that makes him kinda dumb. Blitzø is made out to be the bad guy for being an ass and being short-sighted.
... In a way, it's kind of comforting knowing my sister was right about my ex. I thought everything was my fault and i was never good enough... I just kind of ignored the hypocrisy and overwhelming pressure to help satiate her sexual desires...
I was an idiot and an ass like Blitzø, but at least i tried. At least i took accountability and became better...
Also, i keep seeing people say that Blitzø, the demon, is being demonized and it makes me giggle every time lol
In some ways I’m sort of thankful that the show has failed to make Stolitz so compelling because I’ve seen so many victims realize they had abusive partners thanks to Stolas’ behavior
it's 9 seconds, where's the extra second ForcedPositivity???????
what if i were to tell you that i am taking a shower wtih this video on
I was sceptical of how season 2 was handled up until around episode 5, but after the full moon I'm back in the "let them cook" camp. Was glad to hear your thoughts though, so thanks!
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This is what I subbed 4. Thank you for the rant
Your Cletus impression is spot-on omg
Vivziepop decided that the perfect way to start pride month was to break up a gay couple.
They weren't even a couple.
39:00 GENUINELY HOW DID YOU KNWO
I agree, Stolas is a cool character but I didn’t watch the show for the Stolitz drama.
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It is a portal, he opens it up right behind where Blitzo is running, he doesn't teleport him.
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WWHHOOOO I was excited for this the moment the episode dropped
i was really invested with the cherubs B plot personally i think its just a matter of perspective. Im super into that sci-fi shit so when they were opening the portal to hell im like OH YEAH they cooked with that. I wanna hear more about them so bad. I also want there to be more Dhorks characters because we only have 1 design for like all their goons and its kind of stupid but anyway. I have no complaints about the ending fight that blitz and stolas have except for blitz's tail being really distracting in that 1 scene. Like they could've made him slowly walk forward or something not that. Also why are people saying that one or the other is the victim/ is to blame? i just noticed that and thats also stupid both of them are the antagonists imo they are both in the wrong.
there is no TLDR sorry for the wall
Omg it's demons
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