The Original Ending of Transformers 2 That You Never Knew Existed
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2023
- In this video we will be talking about Transformers Revenge of The Fallen, specifically the original ending what we were supposed to get for the film.
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Yeah you can tell Michael Bay was very dissatisfied about the film’s climax. His climax in DotM was his apology to RotF.
but I'd much prefer the original ending for dotm ngl
@@HugoYogurttoo bad it got leaked
@@_.incredible_magnum._291 ikr
@@HugoYogurt It Was Actually Amazon. (I Found That From Another Comment).
@@_.incredible_magnum._291 If I saw a one arm Prime, I would leave to area I am not messing with the face ripper himself.
I feel like the ROTF ending of the novel would be better because showing some scenes that never appeared in the movie would let us know what happened to our heroes, and what really happened to the soldiers that survived their helicopter crash, but I guess the film ending is ok, it just needed to show the scenes that appeared in the novel and not in the movie.
This ending is great, I wish we would’ve gotten it. However, it’s missing one thing: “Give me your face!”
Factssss!
A great line
And "I rise, you fall"
@@Deinobi I really like this line. It's a play on his name while also being a simple statement. The other simply feels uncharacteristic despite going hard.
At least
No I think it's better without since their robots they don't need shampoo for commercials
We were robbed. This ending is MILES better than the one we got. Actually had a stake and more Ironhide and Sideswipe! Damn you strike!
"Actually had a stake" So did the OG one?
@@FalangeRevolutionary986 Not that big. The beam was destroyed pretty early on. The stakes would've been even higher if the machine wasn't destroyed that quick
@@joec7217 I mean, if you actually check how much time passed between the Sun Harvester being activated and it's destruction, those were literally last seconds.
Me knowing that the strike didn't majorly contribute to the RotF story sucking like it does: 😐
@@tristenbailey8442 The ending still would've been better
I think in ROTF, Jetfire had a lot of wasted potential, maybe with the new Bumblebee continuity we can see more autobots that were in gen 1 instead of the same cast over and over again.
I would love to see Jetfire
Bro did you even watch Rotb?
@@prebo1344 I wish
Nah cause he’s to similar to stratosphere
@@CHASEPRODUCTIONS18Jetfire was never the size of Stratosphere in any other iteration of him. Jetfire was always a normal fighter like Starscream.
Definitely *_FAR_* better than the ending we actually got! If I were doing it, it’d probably go quite like this, but with some small changes - like no enemy scrotum, Jolt still being the one to power up Optimus after being given a bigger role and Devastator still fighting after losing his arm to the rail gun, only to get taken down by Optimus like the Driller. The fight then proceeds like normal, but with Optimus and the Fallen engaging in the air Dragon Ball Z style for a bit, Megatron learning that the Fallen’s promise to make him a Prime was false before losing half his face and his arm, the Fallen’s death staying like in the actual movie and Megatron looking empty at the Fallen’s death rather than horrified before leaving with Starscream. Optimus then removes Jetfire’s parts and finds the Matrix amongst the wreckage of the Harvester, placing it in his chest.
From there, the film ends like normal until we get a mid-credits scene of Megatron and Starscream planning ahead with “Operation: Pillar” while the former sits on the Fallen’s throne - now his - and gathers what remains of his army, including Soundwave, Barricade and the awakening protoform army.
but the enemy scrotum is a classic
But enemy scrotum is the best thing about the movie
Nice.
And when Devastator continues fighting Optimus, his lost arm also transforms and fights in robot mode...
I must remind you all the Jolt was useless.. x)
Its crazy how the novels based on ROTF and DOTM had better endings than the actual movies themselves. Not only are they more character accurate, but they do a better job giving fans a more satisfying conclusion rather than being rushed and confusing.
Agreed !
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Well not only that but I would let the fence know what happened to our heroes and when the plot
That ending was really a missed opportunity, we could've seen Soundwave turn into robo form and it builds suspense of what's megatrons next plan
The forest fight is still one of the best fights ever
Bro's explaining the entire Bayverse for Paramount 😂
I think the Fallen's death in the movie was cooler and way more deserved. He gets his face peeled off then his spark gets crushed by Optimus' hand.
Yes I agree with you there I reckon the one we got was absolutely fine
Mortal Kombat and Transformers do not mix well imo. ;/
the Forest battle is the best battel in the movie and I like it when Optimus demand the fallen to give him his face
Why did you put an L in battle?
"I knew there was greatness within you, Sam" just doesn't vibe as much as "Boi, you returned for me." Aside from that the latter just sounds so memeworthy, it also indicates that at the very least, Sam's got Optimus covered when things get tough.
Totally agree
I personally believe that the fallen is the strongest of all of the BAYFORMER villains. He’s stronger than Lockdown, Sentinel Prime, and even strong than Shatter and maybe even Scourge for that matter. I mean the dude literally has the powers of the force and can only be killed by a Prime. No one else can stop him. It just turns out that the prime who did take him out had a crap ton of training during the time in between 07 and rotf.
Yeah and the only one who can stop the fallen is probably quintessa(very debateble because quintessa kinda survive from damages)
Scourge and Shatter aren’t part of Bayformers. They come from the Transformers reboots (which is what Rise of the Beasts is and was intended to be).
"even strong than Shatter". Of course, every villain is stronger, hehe.
Isn’t Sentinel not a Prime? I mean like bro would have probably killed Optimus if Megatron didn’t come and save Optimus, and then isn’t DOTM prime not more experienced than ROTF prime? Oh wait, I just wasted my time because I forgot prime got Jetfire’s parts which gave him a big power boost…
@@mortalvehicle6138 i do think the fallen was stronger than sentinel, both are primes but the fallen is literally the first decepticon ever and the only way the other primes could stop him was to hide and bury themselves with the thing, honestly the movie depiction doesn't give enough credit to how god damn strong this mf should have been
That moment when you realize that in the junior novel and storybooks Optimus is able to intercept, block and reflect a light speed attack capable of destroying stars and also teleport 💀 bro literally gets Dragon Ball zenkais
18:23 Also worth noting is that Jetfire actually survives in the DS Autobots game
Really?
Really
@@christianparrish3292yes
it's funny because while most of this ending is more in line with the messages and themes behind Transformers as a franchise, the "primes are born, not made" bit is missing the point so hard it could have stayed in the final movie and not felt out of place
Optimus prime was a beast in the forest fight
The real rise of the beasts
Optimus was a beast like rise of the beast
@@ricardosmuts947😂😂😂
When the doom music kicks in
🤓
while I like the Michael Bay transformers movies I think the biggest problem with the film's is a lack of narrative cohesion plotlines objects and characters are constantly forgotten throughout the entire series
for example The Matrix of leadership and the all Spark are two of the most important religious artifacts but are ignored in aoe and tlk
and characters like the twins and sideswipe are completely forgotten along with most of the named Decepticons
at least even if the new movies don't do well they'll still be more consistent
Jajaja las nuevas peliculas no son mas consisten XD
@@anthonyortiz45narratively consistent Bumblebee and Rotb are in a new universe and have not contradicted each other
meanwhile the Michael Bay movies contradict each other all the time for example the transformers were supposed to have been relatively new to Earth in the 2007 film but in rotf they had been on Earth since before the formation of Egypt and in tlk they've been on Earth longer than humanity
there are also smaller inconsistencies like the color of energon
@@czkillzlo que mencionaste no son incosistencias y nunca se dijo que el primer conctato con con los transfomers en la tierra fue en 2007. Y las nuevas son muy incosistente
@@anthonyortiz45Megatron is supposed to be the first contact with the transformers in that movie
and by relatively close to 2007 I mean within the last couple hundred years
and since the transformers live for millions of years a few hundred years would basically be nothing
and I haven't seen any way that the new movies contradict each other
@@czkillznunca dicen que fue el primer conctacto.
En las peliculas nunca se no dicen cuanto vive un transformers por lo que tu argumento no tiene sentido.
Pues si la tienes, que no sea capaz de ver es cosas tuya
I’m more interested about what Ratchet missed in the alternate one. 😂
Btw your voice acting was really good! ❤
Thanks! 😄
@@Theorymus I've played the PS2 ROTF videogame, underwhelming to say the least
@@Richtofen-gy9cjI played the PSP version. Great game
It probably would have been a crotch joke knowing Mr. Bay. 💀
AT LEAST WE STILL HAD THE LEGENDARY LINE
“I am directly below… enemy scrotum”
Bruh
They should have kept in the extra robot scenes, these movies could have really used more of them.
I absolutely love that the enemy scrotum joke was always in the movie lmao
Honestly I think a combination of the endings would be cool.
Instead of dying, Jetfire decides to merge with Optimus temporarily, with his body broken but his spark still alive, and that for Ratchet to repair him from RotF to DotM. I think I would love to see Optimus face Megatron and the Fallen longer but in a 3 way battle after Megatron finds out he can't become a Prime. I really like the parts where Ironhide and Sideswipe tried to fight, where Devastator tries to throw hands with Optimus, but I wish that Depth Charge was actually the ship as in the concept art and figure, explaining why they have weaponry that strong.
I think maybe Optimus should've been the one to fatality wound the Fallen, but Megatron to finish him off and step into the portal. Then Megatron and Optimus fight, Megatron loses but due to Starscream interfering, they both hit the portal and dip. Optimus gets the Matrix, has a conversation with the Primes, see Ratchet and humans fixing, then Sam and Op, and then OP and Sam get to see the Primes together, then Optimus makes his speech. Post credit you see Megatron healing and Starscream asking what now, and Megatron shows Starscream the army, with Soundwave and Shockwave appearing, and telling him, there's always another plan, more than meets the eye. Then cut.
I remember having Rollbar, Depthcharge and Blazemaster but saw the vehicles they were based off of and was disappointed they never transformed when I was younger
@@kidkatanatv I still have them and they are dope! Depth charge was actually planned for being in the movie but due to Devastator and the time crunch, he didn't make it, he has concept art. In a similar case Broadside was concepted for Fall of Cybertron and in the art book you get to see his robot mode as where his alt mode was the energon carrier during when you played as Bruticus for the first time.
Honestly, I prefer the original ending because we get a lot more robot action, and it even fixes a lot of plot holes that were in the final cut of the movie.
Man I haven’t commented in a while but ur videos get better and better every time man I have learned so much from ur videos like this great work!
Always appreciate the content! It ls cool to see someone still talk about those early Transformers films🔥
Nice video as always Theorymus!
Loved the video, always relaxing to listen too, but man knowing this really makes me sad for the things we never got but that’s life.
Good Job 👍
Jetfire was undoubtedly the best thing ever about Revenge of the Fallen
Devastator: Am I a joke to you?!
Rotf and Dotm were both robbed of good endings. However, in each ending the Fallen is depicted as weak and a coward. And barely puts up a fight, in the movie ending the Fallen fights Optimus and even gained the upper hand (for like 5 seconds) the perfect ending for the Fallen imo would be he's too strong for Optimus, even the other autobots help him but the Fallen fights all of them and even the military off. And another railgun is fired and hits the Fallen, stunning him long enough that they get the drop on him and prime finishes him off.
Your right
I do enjoy how the alternate endings definitely give better closure to some of the characters, and give the title characters some more much needed screen time. The one thing I kind of like they changed was megatron’s ending. I personally love just how prime obliterates him and seeing him in his camp in dotm is one of my favorite scenes
kudos to foster, he managed to write a 400 page book from a 9 minute screenplay
Always a good day when you upload
I have been waiting for this video for a long time and it paid off
This feels like a common theme with this movie series
This was a very interesting video. I do agree that the Novelization ending is the better one. 😊 It’s sad that the filmmakers ran out of time causing them to change the ending. Oh, well. It is what it is. 😔 Wait. Did Optimus have a different speech in the original ending did he not have one at all?
Original ending Optimus did have a different speech
Yep.
Oh, ok. What was it?
Threw it to the stars Beyond
Oh, ok.
6am upload as i get ready for my first day of school alresdy know it’s gonna be a good year
I’m kinda sad and disappointed that the original ending didn’t make it, cuz at least it wouldn’t be as sloppy and empty as the final ending.
I guess judging by the ending Megatron had on this version , it can be assumed that he would have had a different form in the 3rd movie judging the fact that he actually ended up in a strong position
Amazing Bro :D
Imagine if they were 3 post credit scenes 2 of them are the Sam scenes that we got and the last one is the megatron one that we all wanted
I love your videos!
I didn't know that there was a 2009 strike.
I kinda wanna see the reboot optimus to do a epic battle like forest battle and this movie is overhated only has few problems
I wish the battle against Devastator from the Transformers RotF Wii/PS2 game was in the movie, Optimus fighting Devastator in the middle of the city is awesome and the soundtrack is pretty good, but it would probably blow up the special effects team's computers.
Bruh so your telling that the fallen will have more screen time this is much better than fallen asleep in the theaters
Some many ending I can't choose my favourite
As much as the Bay films were a giant missed opportunity, I'm glad your channel exists to explore 'what could have been' etc.
Edit: I hate how much better these special effects look than the work done for Rise of the Beasts... I know it's a different company etc., but MAN this film still looks good.
ILM definitely bit off more than they could chew. Devastator himself blew up several of their computers.
This is true the og ending was better that the one we have now
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OG ending is better, but I understand that ILM had major constraints. We still need breakaway to be brought back in future movies, his design is awesome and since its a new universe it wouldn't need any explanation aside from "he's a survivor of the war on Cybertron who escaped to earth." Really, I just want a Studio Series figure, cause the original from ROTF is hard to find and expensive. Underrated character.
I like everything except the "primes are born not made" line. Itd be better if he snapped back that Megatron doesn't posses the qualities that make a prime or something
Great job
I just woke up and this was the first thing to pop up on my recommendations, guess I’m starting the day off with a bang
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Man I had the ps2 game and I have a lot of nostalgia for it. I remember in the ending cutscene you just randomly hear Sam who wasn’t mentioned in the rest of the game at all
Awesome Job! 👏🌟
seeing this gives me nostalgia of watching rotf for the first time
As good as the original ending was, it just needed more Jolt and it would be perfection.
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While I love the ending we got. I still cannot help but this ending would have been awesome to have seen instead. It’s just one of those thoughts you can’t help but wonder👍
This is way better more ending than the movie ending
THAT MY PRIME: Optimus: let them come
Excellent video, personally I think Michael Bay did a great job with his saga despite the fact that there are things I don't like about his style; I just think he was unlucky after TF1. Without a doubt, to make a sequel to TLK and an end to his saga, I want him as the director; if he is the one who started and carried everything to the "end", he is the one who must finish everything.
Theorymus Prime, I knew about this original ending even before you made this video, and I can safely say that it's way better than the one we got. My favorite variation of the original ending is definitely the one present in the novelization.
One detail you glossed over, is that the ROTF junior novel, 'The Last Prime', 'I Am Optimus Prime' storybook and the ROTF Scholastic book, are targeted for children, so the changes were deliberate to tone down the film's violence for young readers.
You also glossed over the ending present in the ROTF game for java mobile devices. In it, the final boss is Megatron and you fight him as Jet Power Optimus Prime. Upon defeating Megatron, Optimus uses the power of the Matrix of Leadership to kill The Fallen and destroy the Star Harvester, and the Autobots and NEST celebrate their lastest victory. It then cuts to Megatron commenting on how his master's title fits his fate and that underestimating Optimus was The Fallen's worst mistake. Now as supreme leader of all Decepticons, Megatron promises not to make the same mistake as he makes preparations for his final endgame (AKA the events of DOTM).
When you first revealed tht you would make this video, I thought you would only talk about the endings of the novelization and comic book adaptation, as you never talked about the variations of the original DOTM ending present in it's other adaptation materials on your video about the leak that caused the film's ending to be changed, which is why I planning on making a comment on tht video showing the variations of the DOTM original ending present of the other adaptation materials as an addendum.
2 films had their original ending explained, so only the 2007 film remaind to get that treatment. Good luck!
This was would have been a Really Great Alternative Ending. I was Fine with Optimus Prime Battling Megatronus Prime/The Fallen and Megatron I still think that’s still one of The Coolest Fights in The Transformers Film Series. If there’s one thing I Would love to see the most is That Post Credit Scene with Megatron on The Nemesis. Hey Theorymus are planning to go over the alternate ending for Transformers 3 Dark of The Moon?
I already have a vido on it 🫡
theorymus did make a video on the alternate ending in transformers 3
Jetfire's quote makes me laugh so hard man
12:07 that reminds me of the ending of the rotf ps2 game plus I did a stopmotion version of that cutscene
"GIVE ME YOUR FACE"
GIVE ME YOUR HEAD
I remember seeing in the special features disc about the ending about megatron commanding his new army! Man I wish it was put into the movie ☹️
19:01 megaBlud got replace by his own troop 😭💀
Wow This Is Good If This Rotf Ending Was Real It Would Have Been The Best
Dude pls explain how did Hound Crosshairs and Drift appeared in T4 since they werent there in T Movies 1-3
Great video. Nice to know there were different options. @Theorymus could do a video investigating what Optimus Prime really did in the time he disappeared in the final battle of The Last Knight and reappeared in the back of Dragonstorm to kill Infernocus. Did he visit Alpha Trion to seek knowledge ? Did he need to relieve himself of diarrhea? Or was he just watching the battle from above and see if their autobots could do a good job without a Prime help ?
Honestly, I prefer the Fallen's and Megatron's defeat in the movie over the book
Love your videos
I liked the alternate ending than the ending we saw in movie. Thank you theorymus love from India 😘😘😘
That actually sounds like a better ending surprisingly. Plus it actually connects the movies together and so much more like you said in the video.
Nice vedio i Like it soo much in such fan of TRANSFORMERS
I just wish we had more Devastator
This guy never ran out of idea🔥
This is a good video 10/10
Thanks!
Man if only that original post credit scene was in the film, would have made the DOTM army make so much more sense. I always thougt Megatron had it and just never used it lol.
I wish that Devastator was used more in the film. Just imagine the Autobots going up against him!
Love your videos, wish there was an IMAXcut
Keep it up brother ❤
Jolt should have had more screen time
I never actually watched the RoTF movie myself. The only way i truly experienced a full rotf experience was through the game (the port thats on PC/PS3/Xbox. Not the PS2/Wii port). So the endings there were the endings of rotf from my pov.
I kind of wished this in the film plus i never knew there was an original ending
Leo kinda just disappeared in the final battle, I feel like there could have been something cool where he would distract the Fallen and Megatron. Love ur vids :)
Honestly I like both this and the ending we got
Hey Theorymus one thing I noticed is when the teleport & knocking everybody over you see the bottom left corner one of the soldiers gets decapitated 😳
Nice theory theroraymus
Who summoned me
nice thumbnail
Thanks
So optimus prime wasn’t going to be a mortal kombat character during development?
They did say it was a prototype railgun and looking at real life advancement, its possible it was unable to fire again due to damage from firing. Though it is pretty dumb they didn't manage to use it again in other movies. Though it may have been difficult to set up quickly inland, it could have help a lot in DotM.
1:12 ❤❤❤
Well after watching this, I now have gotten a better appreciation for this ending. I'll have to figure out how it will work, but we'll see.