"8 Passengers" Allegations | What is the Personality Profile of Family Vloggers?
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
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Anybody else watching this in 2023 after Ruby gets arrested for tying up and starving her kids? Sadly, I don't think any of us are surprised.
Yup.
Sadly, no.
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Here from the future!
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A home where children are duct taped and denied food is not a home, instead it's a torture chamber.
When I was in High School I was friends with a Mormon guy. Somehow someway he'd pissed off his step-mother and she didn't feed him for a day or two. So at school he came up to me and told me about it and asked if I could lend him some lunch money. I let him go through the line twice and told him he didn't have to pay me back. Please don't withhold food from your children as a punishment. Its abuse.
I am glad he had a friend like you, that he could be vulnerable with and would show him kindness.
This is just heartbreaking. Withholding food is indeed abuse.
Unfortunately there are so many parents like this in the Mormon community. I know because I was apart of it for many years. Thankfully my parents were very relaxed and never did stuff like this. I think it could be because women in the church are kind’ve encouraged to stay home and take care of their kids. They literally have nothing else to do except to parent, which is great if you have a good mom not so much if you don’t. I don’t the culture is so fucked up Im so glad I left
What is a mormon?
@@Blaze-ds1fn a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a religion founded in the US in 1830 by Joseph Smith, Jr.
Well, this aged like fine wine.
Protect children. End family vlogging.
Yes!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Or at least demonetised AF ,along with mukbangs and 3am challenges
Emilio Hidalgo
Mukbangs are gross 🤢
@@Jake5537t it started as a social online interaction in Korea, but american youtubers turned it into a disgusting shitshow *coughNikokadoAvocado , and Korea followed their steps
I would certainly agree if it wasn’t for this woman’s abuse being brought to light through it.
Monetizing narcissism will just encourage more. I can’t stand most of the family channels.
Well said.
The thing I would find useful is if local people had weather cams in my area. MSN and the Weather Channel have been so far off the mark for my area. They say clear skies, we get a storm. They say thunder storms we get a little rain but nothing major. But I'm probably becoming the old man that complains about weather men lol.
namastenurse well then turn it off. Easy fix.
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I don't think you got the point OP was making. Rewarding bad behaviour doesn't work out so well for those around the narcissist.
go watch the leroys or what are we doing as they seem to be normal families without too many restrictions. they all have free electronic access.
How did I miss this video 3 years ago? Dr Grande is remarkably perceptive and sensible.
How awful it is to know that the abuse went on for 3 more years AFTER this video was released. Finally, I hope those children get some real help, and justice.
Dr. Grande: “I watched as many videos that I could tolerate - which wasn’t much”
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Lovely
SueP-D lol 😂 love him
Haha. He always makes a comment similar to this and it makes me laugh every time.
I was gonna comment the same. hahahahhaaa. SAVAGE.
I appreciate the seriousness of the message of Dr. Grande's current merch, but would love some with his quips.
"Not everything people do should be available to the public." Hallelujah!
China has a slightly different view on this issue.
I read this line right as he said it, feels weird, lol.
I realized that a year after I made my Instagram account in 2013. the idea of having people know my coming and going and what I had to eat didn't sit right with me.
been sparse with my social media presence ever since!
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1. Rubys parents have a vlog also. Grandma and Grandpa Griffiths. Her siblings also vlog. Rubys kids have been in front of a camera almost since birth.
2. I watched Jodi’s niece testimony on Mormon stories channel. Jodi has been doing this for decades which is horrific.
If we have learned anything here, kids need to have protection in this industry also.
OMG, so family vlogging is a "family business". Lord save us from the attention seekers.
The people who say they just want to “have the memories” That’s cool, people have home videos, you don’t have to upload them to UA-cam 🤷🏼♀️
I think it was the parents in Ryan's toy reviews that said they started out by just making videos to send to family who live far away, and then the channel blew up. Nice try. There are SO so many ways to share videos privately if that was really all you wanted to do in the first place.
I'm now in my 30s and my dad recently decided to upload our old family home videos to UA-cam and I hate it. Bunch of strangers can see footage of us as kids and such, even if it was decades ago it feels invasive but he doesn't see it that way. Those poor children have their whole lives shared and I can't even imagine how bad that will feel.
Another danger is that some of these children will grow into adults who have no regard for others’ privacy!
ZombieWeiss Copyright strike it.
Constant pics too on FB. I'm sick of it.
I can't begin to imagine the sense of betrayal the children will feel when they realize their parents made their living off of them by recording them day in and day out. They have no choice in the matter. They need at the very least to be forced to put a large portion of the money earned into a trust fund for the children to help pay for the therapy they'll need. As you mentioned, the children are the money makers.
People watch family vloggers because children are cute and innocent and not fully rational beings. The same reason people are drawn to cute animal videos in nature such as safari videos. A nostalgia for childhood and simplicity. The irony is that the viewing audience is being manipulated almost as much as the children they're watching (via AI and UA-cam algorithms). I'm guilty of watching one family even though I know on an intellectual level that it's wrong and worry about the repercussions for them down the road (especially for the introverted children).
It reminds me of the trope of when people bring a new boyfriend/girlfriend home and mom whips out the photo album and how embarrassing it is. Family vlogging is that on steroids. These people should damn well know better.
It's basically child labor IMO. The children are the ones bringing in the revenue instead of it being the other way around.
Its like Kate Plus 8 now available for every family.
Do they put money in trust for the kids is also a question.
It’s 1am in the UK. Am I staying up for another 12 minutes and 14 seconds? Yes. Yes indeed.
Dr. Grandes videos are the best to watch at night! They are problematic for shutting off the UA-cam and actually going to sleep though!
I have to wake up at 4:30am but.... here I am.
I love you Brits.... lol ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I'm in Australia, and Dr. Grande seems to upload videos at around 11pm at night and sometimes later on at around 2 or 3 in the morning. Thankfully, I'm often a 'night owl' by both nature and choice and usually am awake when he uploads a new video. The trick is to be using UA-cam so I see the notification and, like yourself, to remain awake to watch the newly uploaded video.
I go to sleep at 4-5 am during quarantine 🤷
My mother isolated me for a year in 8th grade as punishment for normal kid stuff. No friends I was allowed to talk to. Messed me up and made me want to rebel 10 times harder once I started growing up, which I did and had to recover from that whole mess.
I just wanted my mom to be kind while I growing up instead of all the harsh punishments. So I feel for those kids. 😔
Sorry to hear that. So many parents mess up.
So sorry about what you went through.
I too had a horrible family and family life while growing up. I was the punching/kicking bag.
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🙏🏽 please take care of yourself. Thank you for sharing
That is cruel. My daughter had every advantage in life and tons of friends and despite our efforts and her home life I think bullying at school or worse ruined our efforts. She is on meds and depressed and struggles and I worry every day about her. Life is hard. Don’t let it break u
This mom supports you 🍵🧠🌈💜👵🏻
I grew up in a strict household, but not even once was I punished by starving.
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Their reasoning was because they grew up poor and starved a lot as kids. So they knew what hunger pain felt like
I grew up in a strict household of 11 children, but NEVER even ONCE I was ever put on starving. With 11 children, my mom worked from dawn to dusk all her life, and always fed us fully. My parents were the best parents I could ever ask for and I'm always grateful and proud of them. Watching abuser parents abusing their children ONLINE and no one did anything about it, allowed it going on for so long just really upsetting. Glad that evil mom finally got arrested recently, hope she rot in prison for life.
Love Dr. Grande's intellectual shade.
We need that on a t-shirt. 😂
Same. 😂
Facts
Me too 😀😃
He makes me laugh in moments I didn't think I could ^^
"By recording everything and putting it on UA-cam, they're engaging in an active destruction of privacy". - Dr. Grande
But: at least they later have to tell their psychiatrists nothing, he can watch all of it himself.
Ruby saying she hoped no one gave her 5 child food when forgot her lunch just made my blood boil. Also, a 5 year old expected to pack and remember their own lunch every single day is just absurd. She’s tiny!
I can't imagine how she could think that way. One time my kindergartener forgot his lunch by the back door and after spending fifty minutes round trip dropping him off at school and driving home, I immediately hopped back in the car to take the discovered lunch bag to his classroom. I was just glad I could make sure he wouldn't go hungry and he felt loved. He's twenty five this weekend and I would probably drive fifty minutes to get him food even now if he really needed it.
She's nothing more than an abusive narccisist. Disgusting, and doesn't deserve the title "mother"
@@markthorne2999you aren’t heartless that’s why you drove to the school.
My husband has driven a lunch to me while I was at work because I forgot my lunch and I’m in my 40s.
That poor little girl going hungry. She should have lost her parental rights then. I hope the teacher or another adult snitch her some food that day.
@@sarahblack4864 It seems like the school should have required a sack lunch or made her pay for a school lunch. It's either or, and not an option to go hungry.
For this alone she is a horrible person, not to mention the other stuff. JFC.
Dr Grande, thank you! This is off-topic, but my girlfriend is a vulnerable narcissist oscillating into a grandiose physical abusive narcissistic. I found your videos 4 days ago. I have put like 50+ hours in your narcissism videos. I broke up with her and I will move out today or tomorrow. I gave her a choice to go to counselling so we can repair this. She said she won't go. So I am leaving her. Everything Is like you said. Since I have this knowledge I feel great! Not depressed anymore. I got my power back. Thank you again. They are a menace to society. Thank you! :D :)
Good for you! Stay strong. There are good narcissist recovery channels on yt. Get therapy if you can, these folks destroy you. ❤
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Cut it off completely, don’t look back personalities don’t change
UA-cam could also just demonetize channels like this...
Unfortunately they'll come up with any excuse or loophole to avoid demonetisation because they bring in billions of views, like mukbangs and 3am challenges
@@SleepySloth2705 I think they have started demonetizing content geared towards children. (But maybe this channel is geared towards adults?) On one crafts channel I watched, she mentioned her videos about making slime were demonized because UA-cam claimed it was for kids. She said it wasn't specifically created for kids but just that kids like slime. Kinda weird.
I agree. However, they may still be able to make money through other social media, sponsors and things like patreon. But it's a start.
They demonetized Bonnie & Joel (Ruby's sister & BIL) they had to remove vlogs, and censor certain things regarding the kids bc it flagged UA-cam indicating exploitive behavior. I wish UA-cam would do the same w/ Ruby. Why can't Ruby & Bonnie just film like Ellie & Jared (Ruby & Bonnie's youngest sis. I mean they have kids, yet somehow they get it. Ellie & Jared are aware of what & how to vlog w/o it being cringy, or exploitive. Bonnie is just as cringy as Ruby, if not more so. She's very me, me, me in front of the camera. I mean she even clogged b4 and after her cosmetic surgery on her chin/mouth. A surgery that might I add didn't need to be done. In her clog after surgery she was meant to be on rest, yet she just couldn't not vlog and talk. It seemed so selfish to undergo the surgery, taking the risk that heavy sedition comes with. I mean she has children that bawled their eyes out when she was headed to the hospital. If she'd reacted badly to the sedation and God forbid hadn't made it, it happens, Kanye lost his mom after she died going in for cosmetic surgery. Those poor kids would've been left w/ so many questions. Yet they don't correct their mistakes vlog after vlog, and continue to selfishly put their kids through unnecessary emotion.
When I got my first period (12 years old) my mother told my female family members because they considered this a very important part of growing up. I was bothered that everyone knew but i got over it pretty quick. My baby cousin on the other hand was only 9 when she got hers. When this was shared with the family, I think it really traumatized her. I couldn’t imagine how I would feel if my mother would’ve posted “my first period” on UA-cam! That’s disturbing.
Yeah. As the children realize that they can’t trust Ruby to keep private things private, they will start keeping secrets from her. This can be dangerous (if, for example, the children start having premarital sex without all the information they need to make informed decisions with their bodies), but Ruby has brought this on herself. She and Kevin are terrible parents. I used to think it was just Ruby, but Kevin is just as bad because he backs all the crazy beliefs Ruby has.
Thanks for sharing. I got mine and developed at a young age too, and my mom did something similiar. It was fine within the family, but one "friend" she told was quite narcissistic and flat out manipulative, and I dont remember what that woman said or did but I remember she made me feel very ashamed. I think she may have put me down or something because she was jealous and had 2 older daughters herself. She made me feel broken or unusual for developing early. And even a little betrayed by my mother, until I saw how that woman betrayed her more.Yes it can affect a girl/child. Its hard enough growing a chest as a child, some things you just want to be private and safe within the family until you come to terms with how things are.
My mother did that to me and I had specifically asked her not too. I hid the first four periods I had from her because I knew she would tell every one. I was humiliated and mortified. Boundaries are soooo important. Women have a habit of sharing way too much information with friends etc
@ Shelley Tuohy Not just women... but it usually is a narcissistic mother that will share something like that.
You literally just posted about “your first period” on UA-cam😂 j/k
Just heard she was arrested, I am so sorry for the children.
"Just like extreme isolation is harmful, extreme exposure is harmful too." Love your commentary so much, as always - that mother is a narcissist, no doubt at all - very unwell lady and I feel so much for her children
Now she is under arrest. Finally
It seems like these poor children have been both isolated in harmful ways and exposed in harmful ways simultaneously. They are going to need quite a lot of help and therapy to become healthy adults, and I hope that they received that.
I cannot stand 8 Passengers. The mother is a 'life coach' or something and spills such toxic, incorrect nonsense. As a psychology student who has worked in a social work setting with kids, it's really difficult to watch.
Would you say it’s straight up abuse?
I used to watch 8 passengers but haven’t for the last 8-10 months. I just can’t stomach her life coach crap. That channel has changed in the worst way possible.
Wow. That's definitely the icing on the cake!
@@teresahowick5197 emotionally, probably. The level of narcisism coming from the mother is insane and the poor kids are being gaslit, manipulated and exploited left, right, and center. They removed the sons bathroom door, film their kids asking not be on camera and straight up ignore them, pit them against eachother for views etc etc. To me there seems like a lot of evidence to suggest the youngest two children have attatchment issues, and all the children minus the eldest girl seem to be quite withdrawn. Their boundaries are clearly not being respected, and the parents narcissistic attitudes and behaviour and the nature of vlogging in general has got to take a toll. If it isn't happening now, it will in the future.
Jessica N I could not agree more. It’s absolutely abuse in my eyes. I hate these channels
I've seen like 12 of their vlogs, i get real red flags from the mom in particular, she has no ability to back down from her dogmatic parenting standards and instead just doubles down on her punishments when someone criticises them. When the kids ask her to stop filming she laughs it off and just keeps filming, asking them incredible intrusive questions about their bodies during puberty... I feel like her kids are going to upload a "how I survived narcissistic parenting" video to UA-cam in 10 years time
Or more likely, "How I did NOT survive my Childhood"!
Or they’ll be guests on the Dr Phil show.
Yep. It's sad.
Surely that is considered abuse, maybe even borderline sexual abuse?
@Sabine de Vos Not if they cut off all contact with her.
“It’s not like she committed some heinous crime.” 9:09
Stay tuned everyone. As alway Love your content Dr. Grande.
Yeh unfortunately now she has been accused of severe abuse of the two youngest. I was shocked but then it shouldn't of surprised me. Ruby has always been crazy and that type of behaviour escalates especially when she was involved with a woman Jodi of the cult group ConneXions who egged her on and agreed with her extreme abusive tactics.
@@louwinters508 They told her she wasn't being extreme *enough*.
I didn't know starving your kids was not a heinous crime!
starving them into malnourishment @@noelhernandez363
is a heinous crime
Please do an update video on this topic based on the latest news of this family and the crimes committed by the mom.
It was HOW the mom was talking ABOUT the five year old who had no lunch, that bothers me the most .
She held such disdain for the child.
The mom could have been talking about an ex who cheated on her . Just awful.
And saying she hoped noone fed her child.. gross behaviour to say the least. Who doesn't check their five year old has lunch.. infact who relies on their five year old to make their own lunch.
She was smirky almost, that her daughter was to suffer by having no food all day.
Who the freak does that to a 5yr old - that goes against all motherly instincts.
What in blazes is the father doing - supporting this?
Exploited kids - sick, sick, sick.
She had no empathy. She thought the only reason the teacher would want the child to have food was because the hungry child was making her uncomfortable or inconvenienced and not because she doesn't want her to suffer because of basic human compassion.
Yes!! I’m surprised Dr. Grande didn’t pick up on Ruby’s sadistic streak. And honestly the people watching the videos about the girls puberty / getting punished / bad grades etc. Probably have that same sadistic thing going on
It seems clear that the mother is a sadist. I’ve seen less than 10 minutes of their content. What I saw was a mother who relished in punishing her children with special emphasis on their suffering being a positive outcome. It made me sick & I had to turn it off
I’ve always felt extremely uncomfortable with the Ryan’s World channel when my nephew showed me it years ago. It feels very exploitative and like they’re taking away his childhood yet in comparison to 8 passengers they are spoiling him with toys and affection. I can only imagine how traumatized/ damaged all these UA-cam children will be when they grow older.
Omg Ryan’s world ugh! That mom was so annoying and yes, it was very exploitative. Also made me uncomfortable.
I felt the same way! I think time will tell as we are at the forefront of this trend...
She is the classic tiger mother in Asian culture. Incredibly driven, ambitious for their children, eg three hours of piano practice at five years of age etc that there is an epidemic of suicides in many Asian countries in their teen years from the pressure to succeed. Ryan’s mother is the quintessential tiger mother. I despise her for what they have done to that poor child. I often wonder - does he even have any friends? He’s so busy working.
Embarrassed sure , for all too see and judge
My son loves that stupid show. We usually say “no.” 😓 I feel badly for the children.
8 passengers back in the news… and the creepiness seems to be confirmed.
Please do an updated case analysis!!!
Important topic. I am appalled as to the parents putting their children in a place of no privacy. I see no value to this except $$$. Their children may not forgive their parents down the road. Is it worth it? A big NO. Smh. Thanks Dr. Grande! ♥️✌🏽
I agree. What kinds of problems are these kids going to have when they get older is what I'm wondering. It's all about the money (Captain Obvious here).
It’s one thing to share a video of your child doing something sweet or cute but their day to day lives??? That’s just bonkers.
This is the 'Gosselin Syndrome' all over again. These people are capitalizing on their kids and the more they get the more they feel they are entitled to. Absolutely disgusting.
Yes, you do have to wonder how much these people have thought ahead, tried to envisage possible future outcomes. I'm guessing the answer is, "not much".
Like teen mom
Sharing a child's private info or life on the internet is so very very wrong. I don't even post their picture without asking, and they're in their 20's now.
There’s been an update, she is now in jail and not allowed to post bail. You got to check it out. The neighbor that called 911 was crying on the 911 call.
Woah Dr Grande had this story 3 years before it just broke the internet ❤😢
When I was being abused by my parents I called an organization called hope place from a pay phone. They took my information and called my parents to see if I had problems at school. My Mom told them no that I was a good kid. I came home to a belt whipping and was no longer allowed to run errands for my parents. No Child protection agency was notified. I continued to suffer in silence with my sister.
Years later, hope place called and asked for donations to continue their mission to help abused kids and domestic violence victims. I don’t feel bad for anything I said to that person. She did call me back and say that the person I contacted did make a report. The report said “child called in stating they are afraid of their dad. Child cried during the entire call. Called high school and no disciplinary records available “. The caller had no idea why there had not been a follow up. I wonder why I attempt suicide? Oh yeah, it’s people like Ruby Frankes.
Sorry to hear that. I wonder if they ever helped anyone with this approach.
@@swiatlowiekuiste I doubt it
I belive most of them are narcissists.
Ya for sure
@laura marrero fabian unless the older ones can get them out earlier.
@@GARY84ROCKS Yeah, it's basically "I don't like this guy, he must be a narcissist." It's the one mental health condition where it's ok to hate the person for their condition in internet-land. So hey, she might be borderline, he might be schizotypal, she might be bipolar, they might be avoidant or histrionic - but let's just call them narcissistic because then it's ok to hate on them.
You sound like you're stuck on stupid. Why not just follow the law and have less cops on your mind? Too hard?
As an introvert myself, I'm 100% agree with you. These family vlogs are so exhausting to watch, I don't understand who would want to watch some random family's every day life. And it's terrifying to imaging myself as one of the kids, when your private life is for the whole world to see, and it will stay online forever... it's just a horror for me
I can’t imagine my horrific embarrassing journey through puberty on the internet for millions of strangers to watch. I feel so bad for them. Puberty is such an awkward period of life. I hate that family vloggers record their daughters shaving, buying bras for the first time, talking about puberty x sex. It’s disgusting and super weird.
Yes, & even worse, it’s entertainment gold for pedos, which I hadn’t thought about until someone mentioned it recently. Apparently, they get such growth from all the pedos flocking to see their daughters get her first bra so they then post more content like that to feed the views & get the money. It’s literally just the first step in actually pimping your kids. It’s only a matter of time before one of these sickos does something to one of these kids.
So true! It’s even embarrassing for teenagers when other teenagers look up their parents FB accounts and tease them about it - i know this as my son told me a friend of his was being teased as his mum was posting on FB memes all the time and that wasn’t even photos of the child! I’m so glad I woke up to this madness and stopped it after a couple of years of early childhood and deleted all their photos after that - now I don’t use social media at all only You Tube
Those kids were treated like objects with no care for their emotions whatsoever. I hope the Mom feels like that in prison when she has to pee and shower in front of everyone.
Schools are eventually gonna have to start mental health classes for kids who grew up on UA-cam.😕
Schools don't care about the kids
Or for kids in general. Kinda like a history class: to make sure the toxic cycle doesn’t repeat itself.
“This is about as interesting as putting a camera in a waiting room” 😂🤣 Savage Dr. Grande is back!!!
I laughed so hard when I heard him say that 🤣
These types of folks used to be referred to as " stage parents"😒
Yes!!😆😆😆😆 yikes
They still are referred to as stage parents, and they are still disliked for their cruelty. The sad part is that the affect of this kind of parenting won't rear its head for at least 10 years. Child actors aren't known to fair well in this kind of lime light.
True.. and Mickey Rooney was the first to sue his greedy stage parents and get back all the money from his childhood acting.
And the scary thing is that the children aren’t being put on stage for their skills/accomplishments so they can be applauded for something they worked for (performing in a concert or recital, playing a sport, etc). They are famous for existing and their experiences, personalities, successes and failures are broadcast for the world to comment on.
@@grizzlybear4 I didn't know that. Good for him! Poor Shirley Temple didn't do as well. We just don't seem to learn. Child actors who've suffered are with us today. No child - or adult for that matter - should be in the public eye this much. It's just not healthy.
Our fascination peering into private lives has exploded in the last ten years. I spent the summer in Missouri where I have a four year old great niece. She watches a UA-cam channel called “Little Girls Playing”. I watched with her and realized how strangely mesmerizing it was. Such a sad commentary that children would rather passively watch others play than engaging in the activity themselves. Is this also true for adults watching reality shows? Are we living vicariously and then shocked when the fairy tale turns out to be a nightmare?
Ruby Franke has been arrested for aggravated assault. A child escaped out the window. Would be great if you can cover this.
He did.
@@weepinginanger I commented this before he did. 13 days ago
Ok just in case you didn't see it, I was just letting you know. @@kisaragistation5220
A quick note about the punishment of taking away his bed for 7 months. It wasn't just that. They completely took away his room as well. His bean bag chair was on the floor in the family den. They chose to give the large bedroom with a private bathroom to their Golden Child, the younger son. The punishment happened shortly after Chad (the eldest son) had just returned home from a "behavioral camp" that is known for Gay Conversion Therapy, so Chad had a VERY rough year.
Yikes. Sounds Terribly abusive. Poor kids.
Sadly, 3 years later the "golden child" RF was then starved and tied up in restraints. He is only free because he fled to a neighbor, who sounded horrified at the condition of Russell. They abused all of their children terribly.
"Golden Child" didn't exist in that family!!
And now 2 - 3 yrs later, their family is falling apart, no surprises there.
Keep shedding a light on these yt family bloggers who exploit their children for financial gains and fame by ignoring their RIGHTS to privacy and apparent neglect/& abuse. #NameThemAll 💡 #ProtectOurChildren ✌️
“…I think Ruby will recover…it's not like she committed some sort of heinous crime…” If only we had a crystal ball. Those poor kids.
Sir, you had this "nipped in the bud" years ago!!! So very tragic that nothing happened sooner for these kids. I enjoy your insight!
it wasnt nipped in the bud it was obvious then
can we get a video on the psychology of people who are infatuated with notorious criminals💆🏻♂️
I believe he has already talked about that
Search killer attraction and you'll find it
He has done this about a year ago ☀️
Good one!!! Agreed!!🤙🤗
I would love a vid on women who marry lifers in prison.
I think this wise statement deserves being reinforced here: “It takes a fairly high degree of maturity to truly be grateful to others who have held you accountable.”
As someone who is maybe too sensitive to criticism, I feel the need to add that it depends on the motive and delivery of the comments - they need to be constructive and considerate but are often insensitive.
@@bthomsonyes, absolutely
You nailed it! Unfortunately, in RF case, it was much worse than imagined 😕
“The notable lack of empty nest channels” 🤣😂😅 yep that’s us!
I think I would actually watch a channel like that. Live vicariously through you. Lol. He may be onto something.🤔
Lol! I cracked up at that statement and I'm an empty nester, too!😄
I love how you speak. There's about three ppl on UA-cam I'd love to talk to just once. And you're one. Your content is so needed and so helpful
He's not gonna sleep with you
@rayamoroso126 yes... I'm sorry... Just the way it is
Dan Palu not everyone thinks about sex when interacting with the opposite sex, stop projecting. You can deeply respect another person of the opposite sex without wanting to sleep with them.
@@beans9019 speaking of projecting, lol
Dan Palu “durrhrrrrhurrrr speaking of projecting🤪🤪🤪🤪” do u have a working brain? u made literally no point at all and u wanna act like u did something? like bro it’s actually so embarrassing for u, looking at how u think u owned them & how cringe u are 😭 go on and hurl more nonsensical “insults” baby I love it when you’re being a dumbass 😍
This one abouts to pop off again! 😬 8/31/23 ✌️
I find the Mother smirky, cold and creepy. Imagine that cold fish being the person you're supposed to turn to for comfort and support.
I love how you referenced the exhaustion felt by an introvert watching such channels, I feel this greatly with many content creators which are just like hyper-explosive shouty movements and then feel the need to socially isolate as if to recharge myself like that in real life. I am greatly introverted and often these things affect me more so than others, I'm glad you referenced this, it it nice to share this trait with someone whom understands such
Cheryl Baker I used to feel the same way as a child when watching sitcoms! When the characters were in stressful or embarrassing situations, I would have to change the channel because otherwise I would feel so drained and exhausted.
And how awful for the child who is introverted.
Yes that’s me I even retreat from my family when they all get talking with no one listening
I was happy he mentioned it too. I think that bloggers and other UA-camrs that have big, fast personalities have made this culture on youtube that you always need to be doing something and be super excited about it. UA-camrs who are shyer and less energetic have a harder time getting a following because of that now.
Im so glad im not the only one who feels the same way. I get so annoyed and emotionally exhausted when I watch loud and obnoxious youtubers
If my mom and dad were family vloggers back in the 1990s, they'd be arrested. 😩😭🙃
Abuse is so flippin common🤸♀️🔄
... and NOW we NEED a Dr Grande update!!!
You make very good points/obsevations about how wrong this is. Then I noticed you did this video 3 years ago. OMG! Boy, did you nail it!
I love a classic Dr. Grande burn.
He's legit one of the funniest creators on YT. Just recently started noticing that. I also can't think of a channel that is more cutting-edge (relevant). Great stuff.
😂😂😂hahaha😀😀😀
Sounds like they're failing at getting a TLC show... Pretty sick.
Right I heard of all the duggers drama today and they seem kinda similar family in ways
Schham of course she didn’t, she makes far more money on UA-cam then she ever would on TLC, they keep all the $$ themselves can post every single day, they have more control
@@libbyellmers8193 You're pathetic
@@FANCYLOOK881 I have a life... Sorry you know the backstory.
@@amandaflemmi1928 Yeah equally deranged. This is the 1st I ever heard of this crew.
“Attention-seeking narcissists”. That’s all you need to say about “family vloggers”.
You forgot the money... It's all about the money. I wonder how much of that money being made off the children's heads is actually being put away for the children? Not a dime in this family I can promise you.
I think they're worse than that.
The “voluntary” Truman Show sucks.
Good one!
Unfortunately, it's not voluntary for the kids involved.
@@crispmom that's why there are quotations (this is me just wanting to make sure you know they agree )
I'll save you the trouble: they're crazy
Amen sister
So is your profile name miss CoCa
@@unapologeticella4540 lol that's fair
Honestly, I had to look them up to find out who they were.
Never heard of them (thankfully).
Agreed. I too shall pass !
Yea I def didn’t watch them but when I heard other people telling their views I was like yikes
“You shall not pass!”
I never heard of them either, so not interested in others day to day activity recorded..
I think people who watch reality TV and family bloggers on UA-cam are people who are trying to scape from their own reality. I find that disturbing, it’s like they don’t want to deal with their own problems, so they watch people with other problems and focus on that instead.
Thanks for another great analysis Dr. Grande!
Escape
Thank you for talking about this! It always bothers me to see parents expose the private lives of their kids. Once content is out on the web..you can't just take it back.
I feel it is so egocentric of the parent/s.
Thank You for this expert opinion. Protecting children is most important!
"They get to show off all their amazing parenting skills or their... LACK OF SKILLS. - Dr. Grande I love You hahahahaaa
And here we are, more relevant than ever!
I grew up in the lds/Mormon religion- some of the 8 passenger videos show them at church so I know they are apart of the same religion. I wish you could do a video on the psychological abuse these strictly religious parents are doing to their children. Growing up it wasn’t uncommon to see a young boy being physically dragged out of a church meeting by his ears by a NEIGHBOR for being ‘disrespectful’. The parents were supposed to sit there and take someone else physically abusing their child. And the psychological abuse is so high it’s indescribable. The mother especially is told it is her job to ensure her children make it into heaven. So children stop being autonomous people, they become representations of the parents ability to ‘follow the rules’ and parent ‘correctly’. Drug abuse became rampant amongst my friends with stricter religious homes than mine. They were kicked out at young ages of 14/15/16 or sent to the same wilderness survival camp that the 8 passengers son was sent to. If you have your own opinion on life or the religion, you also run the risk of being kicked out as a minor or sent to unnecessary ‘treatment’ When i first saw the 8 passengers drama- it brought back literal flashbacks of growing up in small town Utah.
I grew up in Utah as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ, too... My mom would NEVER have let someone else physically drag one of her kids. I haven't ever seen someone physically abuse a child at church. My experience was very different than yours apparently.
I agree. My experience was different, also. My philosophy has always been to respect my kids as much as I want to be respected. They are now between ages 21 to 30 and we are all very close and they have very strong beliefs and are often the ones giving me encouragement when times are rough.
Our family was actually in the same ward as Ruby's family in the early 2000's. I was in the primary presidency when their youngest daughter, Ellie, was 10. Ruby was an older teen so I didn't know her as well. But I knew the parents. Her mom seemed fine to me, but her dad was another story. He was in the bishopric at the time and was very pompous and unapproachable. They had money and I thought maybe he just thought he was better than everyone else. And Ellie acted a bit spoiled, entitled, and was a little difficult to deal with in Primary. But I didn't think much of it because a lot of kids grow out of that kind of stuff. But after hearing about all the stuff coming out about Ruby, I have no doubt there was something going on in her home growing up with her dad. He was quite the narcissist. I wouldn't be surprised if in the future Ruby tries to drag him down with her.
I can only imagine that amount of unhappiness and dysfunction when the cameras are not rolling. There's probably so many that dread waking up in the morning because they have to upload their life.
A thoughtful and articulate response, as per usual!
I don’t post anything of my young kids online. I feels like it would be on there forever. I imagine when they’re all grown up and at a job interview and the Interviewer says “I see you were pretty rough on your sister when you were three” 😉
"It's not like she committed some heinous crime"... three years later, heinous crime ...
This is my all time favorite channel on UA-cam. Thank you so much for making my quarantine a little easier and wiser.
I stilll haven't gotten over the satanic teddy bears from this morning's video and now you're hitting us back with more content. Thank you!
The narcissism that seems to be propelling these 'family vloggers' is disgusting. As you mentioned, Dr. Grande, it does seem like they are "recording a shallow endeavour...[and] trying to glamorise] the mundane tasks of life." Critically, the parents are exploiting their children for views, fame, and money, and the psychological damage done by these channels' extreme exposure of their children's every behaviour is very real. As an INTJ, I'm innately introverted and find the channels of family vloggers exhausting just to watch. I'm so glad that I grew up before social media was commonplace so my teenage years, in particular, could be experienced in relative privacy. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for an insightful analysis of this very problematic and unfortunately seemingly acceptable behaviour.
It's such a rare treat to witness someone who's such a smart ass, but who also expresses that particular trait with an elevated vocabulary. Love you Big G, ever since the mock counseling session videos!
WOW there should be a way to protect the children!
There is a way. Child labor laws should be enforced. They should be inspected. The kids should have Coogan accounts set up to ensure some of the money is put away for them. I don’t know why the government hasn’t stepped in.
Brilliant! You make excellent points about family vloggers like this. Thanks for shining a light on this issue. In the case of '8 Passengers' there is also the issue that they are modelling fairly extreme and inappropriate discipline (withholding food, essential items) potentially leading others to think this is 'normal'.
Dr grande was on this tragically crime before it was popular. Kudos dr grande ! 👏
I try to be selective with my UA-cam viewing. Dr Grande is a priority. To the point and educational.
Filming children for tv, you tube etc., feels like a form of child abuse to me.
Completely agree. It is disgusting. I literally won't even show my son's face on my dating profiles.
@Jonny B lol! I always side eye people with a ton of kids. I know it's not fair but....🤷♀️
@@caseyw.6550 You've done enough harm by being a single mom. It'd probably help if you had a youtube channel for the extra money.
At least for tv there are laws protecting them. That way they get the money they make and can only work so many hours
@@reeneperson4088 I think they're referring to reality tv, like the family shows on TLC, where kids are 'playing' themselves and not a role.
2 videos in one day!! You're a workhorse Dr. Grande.
Wow, how prescient! You called it 3 years ago that this was exploiting kids.
AND...She's been arrested.
Once again I’m out of the loop, because I was clueless about this family. And I’m not sad about that 😀
There is no benefit, they just fuel narcissism. If they can't be shut down they should at least be demonitized and subject to regulation
Three years later... You nailed it!! 👍
Why did the law ignore this until a child escaped his torture chamber ? Signed, 3 years on.
The have 2.47M subscribers.
This is just more proof that "the stupidity of humanity is infinite"
No, I think it's evidence of people not having enough real problems these days. We've evolved for millions of years in an existential battle for survival, but not nearly as much in the last century.
ive never heard of them...
@@tessharte1307 maybe because you do not subscribe to nonsensical stupidity.
@@allahspreadshate6486 perhaps. But I still believe humanity is stupid.
Thankfully I’m not part of that insane statistic
I am the 8th of 11 children of 2 very religious parents. Similar to the Duggar family. Except we were not filmed. One day, years and years ago, my oldest sister called me and begged me to watch the Duggar family show, 19 and counting, or whatever. I finally watched it a few times, and it literally gave me migraines. And I knew, years before, that the oldest brother was sexually abusing his younger sisters, because of my own experience growing up and by observing enough interactions between them. I called my sister back and said: "How can you watch this? You know what's happening behind the scenes." She answered: "It's like watching a car wreck, I can't look away." I told her: "Within a few years sexual abuse will come out. I cannot watch anymore."
This kind of thing horrifies me.
Wow. That's so sad. I'm sorry for all you ladies going through that.
So sorry you had to go through that! ❤️
OMG, I'm so sorry. Sexual abuse is so hard to live with. It stays for a lifetime, doesn't it? Mine was by ppl who were not related to me. I can empathize.
It worse when its your own family. The betrayal is extreme. I cant help but wonder if the religious upbringing had anything to do with it ? If the Boys were allowed to have Girlfriends, would it make a difference? Was this passed down through the Parents abusing the Boys first ? I personally believe this is Demonic Lust.
When I saw all the stuff on the duggers today it reminded me of this family
We see what she wants us to see. So what we see is bad enough, makes you wonder about the bits she doesn’t show us, I’d lay money it’s a lot worse than what we’re allowed to see.
That was a good bet you laid, turns out you hit the 🎯🎯🎯
@@blacksquid270 one of the few times I wish I was wrong. At least the kids are safe now
“ ....If there were no children, people wouldn’t watch....As evidenced by the lack of Empty Nest channels” 🤣🤣🤣
Hmm. I never heard of them.
You ain't missed anything, believe me
Lucky!
Me either, I feel badly that I did see the one that has 2 little autistic girls, I did feel they were being exploited, and were vulnerable and unable to resist.
Dr. Todd, you have so much depth, substance, confidence, intelligence, what you see is what you get, there is only one version of you
"Its not as if she committed some kind of heinous crime..... Yet.
I've been waiting to find out who these people are, and now I am spared a mindless critique. I'm so impressed with your ability to blend highly professional analysis with common sense observations. Bravo, again to the most intelligent channel on UA-cam.