Ruby Franke & Jodi Hildebrandt Case Update & Analysis | Dangers of Nonsensical Therapeutic Theories
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2023
- This video answers the question: Can I offer an update on the case of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt?
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Jodi was my therapist for a few sessions when my ex-wife and I went to couples counseling. She was a serious cyber bully to all the group therapy members. Awful women and an aweful therapist. Thank god she at the very least will never be a counselor and hopefully she will be convicted and given the maximum sentance. She is evil
In the words of Alan Harper: God bless couples counseling!
I’m sorry to hear you went through all that. The arrests must be must be unsettling for you. Sounds like Jodi is a psychopath.
Too many therapists are "nucking futs" unfortunately.
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@@BoltonStwell she fits the profile and I'm surprised nobody else has pointed it out
Every day this case keeps getting messier, and deeper. Franke is a megalomaniac; Hildebrandt is a sadist. It was a dark day these two met, that's for sure. I hope all the victims get all the help they need.
Agree- and yet these are not the only sick women who birthed kids they see as entertainment or property. Lock them up and get their kids some actual therapy.
And Franke is a sadist and Hildebrandt is a megalomaniac. They are worst than wild beasts. At least animal mothers feed their own young! Franke and Hildebrandt are demons.
Lesbianism is a sin against God.
@@angtxsun4460I just can’t understand how anyone, let alone a mother would do this. 🤍🕊️
I think it's more bizarre that the husband is totally out of the picture w t f is that? Did she have sole custody of those kids, and he had no visitation? But then I remember its utah and men can dd no wrong. He's certainly a crummy man if he's gonna let his wife be the scapegoat. And not take any responsibility for what's been happening to those kids.
Ruby Franke had with held presents from these 2 young children at Xmas and made them watch every one else in the family open gifts, then later laughed joyously recalling this scenario. She is and was malicious with or without Jody. In my opinion both women are horrifying.
The children who were given presents must have felt horrible about their youngest siblings being grinched out of Christmas, Ruby must have savored that as well.
Theyre like 2 peas of a feather
Love it😂
Horrible. That would cause resentment amongst the siblings. Picking favorites and punishing the others.
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The fact that there is like 10 “mental fitness trainers” trained by Jodi running loose in society is horrifying. There’s a whole slew of them working within the business and perform the same function that Ruby was. They teach 7 week courses on Jodi’s mental health fitness practices. Also their webpage says it’s $150 for a 7 week course for high schoolers which is equally as horrifying.
Do we know their names?
There is a lot of mental health nonsense not to mention all the drugs prescribed.
Like those horror movies when the main monster is killed and then the camera focuses on imagery that indicates, oh no the danger has only gotten worse.
@@marikotrue3488 exactly! Lol. In the clip Jodi is introducing them as her fitness trainers and proudly says she’s looking for more people to train. It’s only first names but she’s introducing them one by one and says Tori, Sherri, Kim, jess, Becky, Liz, Michelle, Johnny, Paige, and Pam COMING TO A TOWN NEAR YOU! Which is the most ominous thing I’ve heard all day! Lol
Eesh. I didn't even think about that 😕
I am very skeptical of anybody who calls themself a "life coach" or anything similar.
Same goes to people who say they can see ghost, supernatural, hearing things, cult leader, god follower
Me too, and it's really easy to just self apply that label and run with it. It's rampant these days.
I am allergic to "spiritual guides".
Me too! I think it means they have issues that they don't want to deal with, so they don't like therapy. They try to magically get their issues resolved by listening to their clients.
@@Nightdreaux22647 Most of those psychics know full well they are taking advantage of people.
These two are a match made in hell. Ruby abusing her children and trying to put the blame on them. Absolutely disgusting. Jodi seems like a typical sadist, who wanted Ruby's platform to advance her own twisted tactics. Thanks for digging up Jodi's disciplinary records, Dr.Grande. They were very insightful. I hope they'll be using them in court. 👍
Jodi needed new targets to torture, Ruby fit the mold by being an unfit mother, she was a very easy mark for Jodi to brainwash…so, she convinced Jodi to leave the children in her care, and we all now know what type of care they received while under Jodi’s roof.
This in NO WAY excuses Ruby, she has shown us that she is an unfit parent, she emotionally and mentally abused her children for years, along with her husband. I will say that, I don’t believe he knew how bad it had gotten for the children, while he was in the house there was no physical abuse to the children. Jodi made sure to keep him away so she could do whatever she wanted.
I believe she is a narcissistic psychopath, with sadistic tendencies. IMO, she is a very DANGEROUS person, PLUS, she is a flight risk.
When her niece Jessi escaped, she fled the COUNTRY, thinking/knowing that she could/should be jailed for her actions. She came back when things quieted down. She knew that Jessi didn’t have any proof about what she did to her. Jodi’s own daughter told Jessi, a couple of years ago that she can NEVER EVER be in the same room as her mother, EVER again, she even changed her last name so her mother couldn’t find her…Jessi is now working with the Detectives and the Prosecutors, and her case has been reopened.
Edit, Jodi’s two children were in her house at the same time that Jessi was, so they saw everything Jodi did to her. I know that her ex-husband gained custody of them at some point.
Maybe she should bunk up with Lori Vallow.
@@janshe3597omg I hope Jodi’s daughters come fwd and testify. So dangerous
@@dnizeliz I’m not sure if she is strong enough to do so, from what she told Jessi, I’m pretty certain that Jodi’s daughter is traumatized…
@@janshe3597tha k you for acknowledging that Kevin is also a victim of those two. He fits the abused and gaslighted abused spouse. Just as people like to blame moms who stay to long with an abuser, it happens to men, too. Until you have experienced or witnessed how devious and dangerous narcissists can be, it’s harder to accept that someone could be so blinded to reality, but look at people who are cat phished. These mental manipulators take charge of a person’s mind and beliefs about reality by using what they know about the person or by playing into their needs and desires and weaknesses.
I hope Kevin and his kids can heal together as a family.
Curious why the LDS church kept referring people to Jodi and now keeps silent about their collusion.
Great question. But as we all know a Church is very good at hiding their downfalls and turning 'badness' into goodness by using the Bible or book of Religion to their advantage. IE: Catholic Church/ Islam, Quran
Because she is consistent with Mormonism. People just don’t want to admit it.
Kevin's lawyer blames Jodi, Ruby's sister blames Kevin, they're all playing the blame game right now but none of them say much about the kids. I don't think the parents should have custody of these kids and I don't think the family should get them either. What a nightmare for these children. The adults in this family are horrible.
He sounds pathetic to be blaming anyone. As if he thinks him pointing the finger at others is going to make us not realise his failure to step up and be a father.
It's clear who was wearing the pants in that marriage. I don't think Kevin is this Mr. Innocent that he's portraying himself to be.
I'm sure we're going to find out more.
In all fairness the sister said they could not Speak about the kids at all because of the court case.
but Kevin is the father.. so he has the responsibility than aunts who have their own family
I’m surprised that Hildebrandt hasn’t had her license revoked. Dual relationships, multiple breaches of confidentiality, value imposition, practicing well outside the counseling community standard etc etc. Thank you for your coverage of this case, as well as your excellent counseling education videos.
I wouldnt be surprised, if every person Jodi dealt with during her disciplinary issues, was also LDS.
The LDS society is mostly a closed loop, when ever possible they only deal with other LDS members.
This could explain why she kept slipping thru the cracks and went right back to her chosen abuse of clients.
Just a guess.
Blame America
Well… she’s lost it now!
She did. That is why she became a coach!
It was suspended but reinstated. The guy who complained about her did an interview on the Mormon stories podcast.
Typical narcissist/manipulator: blame shifting, gaslighting, so selfish & delusional. Congrats on 1.35 million! 🎈🎉Great points. Thanks Dr G😊💙💙
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@@Lisa_5591 😊👍
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Gemini.
I feel like Ruby has something against food the same way Jodi has something against sex. They’re both projecting or whatever. They both seem to love punishing people too. Jodi even completely fabricates things to punish people for.
Jody must be attracted to women and has deep shame about it. She seems to use those feelings to project shame and anger towards men.
Fundamentalism, which is a way a person believes their system of thought or religion and not a specific religion or system of thought, usually has elements of sadism and projection of ones' own failings onto other people. It has been associated with brain damage or stunted brain development - these people tend to be black & white, concrete thinkers who lack objectivity, critical thinking skills, and are incapable of admitting they make mistakes. People who are absolute in their beliefs are dangerous.
Yeah, I think you're right.
In most pictures they are sitting so close together that their hips are touching. They are probably in a sexual relationship and are taking their guilt and shame out on those poor kids.
@@dicedrice7216Exactly what I have been thinking.
I think she was molested as a kid and has spent her life trying to destroy men.
That stalker story sounds a lot like the same tactic she and Ruby used in claiming the two children they tortured were sexual predators.
I do not trust anyone who uses their children for personal fame.
It is so important that people always remember that horrible people can still be capable of getting degrees and medical licenses. Be wary of putting people on a moral pedestal simply because of the letters after their name. They are still just people like all of us. Someone can be an "expert" and also be a psycho.
I listened to a podcast with Adam Steed who was another of Jodi's victim. He is still traumatized. He lost everything including his marriage.
It sounds like she has a slew of victims.
OMG, no telling how many marriages this evil person ruined! Utah should really reassess their licensing process and follow-up. You shouldn't wind up with PTSD as a result of "counseling".
@@priscillaa.8548, what’s worse is that LDS bishops sanctioned her methods and knowingly sent people to her.
What's particularly harrowing is that the Mormon church specifically sent Adam to Jodi TO destroy his life. They knew all about Jodi's sickening and destructive tactics, and they kept sending innocent young couples into her clutches when they were just looking for a little help with hiccups in an ordinary marriage. Not only that, but the church weaponized Jodi against Adam and who knows how many others.
@@lexismore , they new Adam and despised him for bringing down the Boy Scouts and the involvement with LDS in scouting. They had a huge vendetta. Don’t think for one minute the LDS church didn’t weaponize Jodi against him. I’m glad Adam was strong enough to endure the atrocities that were flung at him. He was most definitely a target 🎯
Adam Steed and his wife are the John and Jane Doe Dr. Grande referenced in the video.
their cime isn't only torturing this 6 children. they normalised sadistic behaviour with childen for thousands and thousands of parents online.
I grew up in a country that children and women's abuse is done behind closed doors, government rarely interferes with cult/tribal issues until bodies were found !! So, it really shocks me that with all the red flags and police/CPS around , these 2 women managed to get away with so much for so long !!
The police looked away because Ruby and Jodi were wealthy women with privilege. They didn't persue it until a child had to escape with duct tape and looking emaciated.
And Utah is a “special” place with most of the power being men who are Mormons. Check out where women and children rank in that culture, and you will recognize a lot of similarities between your experience and what goes on there.
They got away with it because Utah is Mormon & the church is all powerful. The church has no problems with ab*sive behavior as long as the church gets their 10% cut aka "tithe". Also Ruby is a skinny blonde "Utah mom" & it's a whole other kind of cult within a cult.
Abuse is overlooked in America too. It is only handled when it explodes like this did. Sadly our child and family services workers are underfunded and underpaid.
The words the 911 caller uses is words that child won't know. Brilliant gentlemen! HERO!
Thank you for NOT repeating or sensationalizing the baseless claims Ruby made against her children in court. It is very upsetting the court made those allegations public as the children have no way to defend themselves against them.
"The court" did not make the information public. A reporter snuck into the courtroom and heard Ruby make the allegations regarding her kids and their alleged "sexual conduct". The reporter made the information public. No court on the planet would have released that information. Please confirm that information you have heard is correct before further accusing the wrong person (in this case, the court) on the internet.
@@jlnriddick If people are able to sneak into hearings then clearly the process is neither secure or private which is what the victim deserved and what my point was. Hopefully the report is held accountable. Interesting youre more upset someone mistook the hearing for being public after, you know, reading the contents of said hearing in multiple news sources rather than the victim's reputation being damaged forever but whatever I guess.
@@katiecommon3614 "Interesting youre more upset someone mistook the hearing for being public after, you know, reading the contents of said hearing in multiple news sources rather than the victim's reputation being damaged forever but whatever I guess." Nothing about my comment suggests that your accusation of where I stand on the matter is true, but if attempting to call me out makes you feel better, that's on you. You accused the court of making "an upsetting" judgement call, which was completely inaccurate, but rather than just accept that, you prefer to justify it while taking a shot at me with another inaccurate assumption. Why are you being so childish? Let it go...
Nothing worse than two sadistic, cruel, narcissist women and a coward, weak men controlling the destiny of innocent children. This case is truly horrible.
I wouldn’t call him weak - he could’ve easily been emotional and mentally abused by Ruby all of this time. We need to protect male victims as much we do female victims. 😊
@@MyMerryMessyGermanLife Kevin isn't a victim, he fully and enthusiastically supported Jodi's distorted views and acted upon them as well, abusing his kids, i.e. applying Jodi's techniques. And so did and still do many other parents who were send to Jodi by their bishops.
You have a stronge dislike of women I think and you r a trumper I fear 🤮
I hope Ruby's husband Kevin is also arrested for neglect (if not the exact same charges as Ruby and Jodi). They lived apart, but Kevin absolutely knew what was going on and did NOTHING.
Yes
Yup💯
Yep
Exactly. He is totally answerable. Bastard.
When I had to learn philosophy in college I discovered that any single philosophy strictly adhered to will always end up resulting in undue harm. Once again the self help gurus are the ones who need the most help.
Vaknin the genius level psychologist agrees with this ❤
Mormonism is particularly harmful
The thing about Jodi and Ruby's parenting philosophy (as presented in their Connections videos) is that there's nothing really to adhere to. Because it doesn't really make sense.
As Dr. Todd says, it's all gobbledegook. Goobledegook and gaslighting.
That's interesting, and my own personal experiences support that. Throughout my twenties I instinctively paid attention to many philosophies and was fine. When I focused on one alone in my thirties, it took me about 5 years before I'd lost touch with reality enough to become almost delusional in my thinking.
“Jodi wants people to be afraid of the world and ashamed of themselves.” Then they’re stuck in a loop of shame that can only be treated by her.
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about how the hell someone gets into my house and waters my artificial cacti like this?
Funny you should say that! We came into the office one day and saw "Karen" watering the plants. We asked her what she doing and she said she always watered them. That's when we had to tell her they were fake! 😅😋🌱
@@bthomson Hahahahha! that's brilliant!
Hahahaha!!
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😂👌🏼thank you for saying the quiet part out loud. He’s so brilliant, the plants just throw you off in an interesting way😂
Saw the interview with ''John Doe'', poor guy is so visibly deep in trauma from what Jodi and the LDS church have (jointly) done to him. His story is truly horrific and heartbreaking.
He fought back though!
@@jeanade9010 He did! It takes incredible courage to fight back relentlessly against a powerful institution set on destroying you... especially while dealing with endless layers of daily crippling trauma. Guy is a hero, his dad too!
@@kated3165most definitely. Adam's story is heartbreaking
Cults should be outlawed. They ALWAYS hurt children. Always.
Where do you draw the line then?
Problem is, different people have different definitions of a cult.
U would have to outlaw religion, they are all cults.
@@tazerdemt7354 there is a plethora of victims Jodi abused, they need to do a class action on Jodi and the lds church
The whole state is a cult .
I think there is more than a professional relationship. They look like they are going together when you watch the two of them together Jodi and Ruby 😮😮😮
Ick
Sick & evil 😈
"Already prone to nonsensical beliefs"... love it, I was trying to come up with this diplomatic phrase regarding Lori vallow
There are definite parallels, for sure!
@@elizabethcloutman8913 both had baseline for strange beliefs
@@ambermchugh9381 Yes, they did. I just read somewhere that Chad Daybell (Lori Vallow Daybell’s second husband who also charged with the murder of Lori’s two young children) might have been a patient of Hildebrant. I can’t confirm that with any other source, but I haven’t searched much yet.
Yeah, this inordinate focus on shame, particularly related with sexuality, is the biggest reason I doubt Ruby’s claims about her kids being abusers themselves. Sounds like she and Jodi got very fixated on this to the point of ignoring normal, healthy human development.
The LDS church is fixated on it
@esteemedmortal5917 Exactly what I am thinking. Also, when one is religiously obsessing over and demonizing and forbidding sex, the mind sees it everywhere, also when it is not there.
@@JustJ-Me you're saying perhaps Ruby thought her own sons were enjoying some homosexual goofing? Apologies if my comment is offensive, but I could see that happening in her mind. The very strict, dehumanizing imo, religions create psychiatric problems in people. It is psychological torture, imo.
In one video, Ruby is bragging to Jody that she sent her son to a wilderness camp. She explained that it was because he was too concerned with what she was going to give him (as opposed to any behavior problems which is what programs like that are supposed to be for). She claimed that he loved it. Perhaps the program was a welcome relief from her home. So sad all around
Torture seems to be their go-to remedy for everything, FFS. Is "suffering" the only thing LDS teaches?
Sadly she was probably either lying or joking about it.
It never fails, the crying at arrest, and court appearances - give me a freaking break 😡😆. These two deserve everything coming to them! I hope the kids get the mental, emotional & physical help & healing they'll need 🙏🏾 ❤️
Jodi was the match to Ruby’s non sensical beliefs. Perfect cult storm. Like Chad and Lori.
Exactly! I believe some of Ruby’s children would end up just like JJ and Tylee!!
@@joycemarie9702 Me too. Also makes me think of the ‘path to violence’ that Leticia Stauch was on when she killed Gannon. The frustrations continue and lead to the death of the source.
These two creeps (and the husband) belong in Jail. For. Life. I believe that there was abuse against the children for years. Ruby is beyond vile for accusing her son of s3ual abuse. The interview with Jodi's niece, Jessi is very eye-opening.
I think you're wrong about the husband. He was kept in dark and manipulated by these women.
@peace-yv4qd This has been going on for years. The children were tortured. They had numerous injuries, which had to have happened for years. There were concerns about the children from the things she did on her channel. There is no way that the father didn't kmow. The oldest daughter called CFS to check on the other children. She tried to warn them. She is out of the house now. It seems as if she has been out if the house for at least a year. If it wasn't happening before she left, then why would she be trying to get someone to check on her brothers and sisters? He was definitely involved. It will come out.
@@amandawilkinsontarot7096 The husband has been interviewed by the police and so far they haven't found any evidence of his involvement. You've made a lot of allegations but I want to see the proof of what you allege. The investigation is still in the early stages and I think you're jumping to conclusions before it completes.
@@peace-yv4qd It's literally all on video, him and Ruby abusing the kids.
@@peace-yv4qd Maybe the husband didn't outright abuse the children but he knew what was happening in his own home. He knew he was married to crazy but didn't want to give her up. He went along with everything Ruby did and didn't protect his children.
The neighbor who called 911, for the 12 yo also reported that the boy had wounds in the duct tape areas. Also, What Ruby’s Niece clearly points out in the long interview, is that Jody sadistically & consistently forced false confessions regarding sex, like masturbation, which had nothing to do with reality. The niece didn’t know what masturbation was but after periods of torture from Jody, the niece admitted to it, to stop the torture.
SO WHAT IF SHE HAD THIS WOMAN DIDNT NEED NO KIDS 😂😅
Jessi is JODI's niece, not Ruby's, but I agree with the rest of what you've said here
Exactly and then when they falsely admit to it, then Jodi felt justified in her behavior. How sick and twisted. It’s so crazy because when I first ever heard of this story after exhausting all my Darrell Brooks videos and looking for something else, I was shocked to see Jodi because she does not at all look or sound like the monster she really is. Ruby seemed twisted, she had a wild look in her eye, but Jodi had me completely fooled at first glance.
@@saratullas5509Yes, Ruby looks like a tense, strict/mean person, but Jodi has a kind-looking face, it's terrifying!
Q: what's the difference between an egg and a wank?-A: you can beat an egg.
Jodi moved into the Franke house??? Isn't that unethical?
Unethical and insane!!
Evil & sick
Yes! And very strange.
I felt like the two of them sat just a little too close to each other on the couch!
Yes, me too. It would have been unremarkable if the camera view was narrow, and hence made it necessary, but the view was very wide angled.
Disgusting Ruby thinks that blaming her child makes her look better, but in the unlikely event that her accusations have a basis she is even worse than we thought for not reporting it. Her sisters are just as bad in that regard, claiming to keep Ruby’s abuse secret in order to stop it!
How would keeping abuse secret stop the abuse? That makes no sense.
Even if there were true it is certainly no excused to bind and starve a child, so I kinda think her accusations are not relevant.
If they indeed true then she is a negligent parent for not getting appropriate treatment for the behaviour.
@@It-is-me...Melsie She is lying to get even with the little snitches that ratted on her. The children were famished so they will have stunted growth thank's to Ruby's great parenting. She became a millionaire by filming them and posting everything including her abusing them on youtube. The prosecutor has a very easy job presenting a case against her and the father that went along with her cruel antics.
@@loralieisa Yep, I agree.
That sadly is tye Mormon way. You'd be surprised or rather not about just how much abuse goes on that no one gives a shit about. It's why I despise the church.
The allegations Jodi levied against her youngest son are worse than just saying he assaulted his younger sister, she claims (and this is not a joke) that she caught him addicted to pornography at three-years-old, that he SA'ed both of his sisters, got one of them to join him, created a 'pat me' game so they could touch each other, and was assaulting cousins and other kids in the neighborhood. It's just so much garbage that it just doesn't make sense, whatsoever.
Most people are sure the only reason she made these claims is because she wanted to punish her son for being the one to escape, this way the state has to treat him as a deviant and keep him away from his siblings, basically keeping him isolated. She thrives on making her children miserable.
The wording the 911 caller was brilliant because he had intentions of not hurting him more. Words like emaciated, detained wounds and started with problems at that house giving the child security that he didn't have.
That kid was brave beyond belief at his age. I never stood up to bullies at his age on the playground and it damaged me a lot. I’m pushing 55. . But to be bullied by his own parents!!! What is this world coming to?
Parental bullying is not uncommon.
I highly recommend watching some recent interviews that individuals that have had to deal with Jodi in the past, such as her niece and other clients, have done with various outlets. It gives insight into Jodi's tactics and ideology- it is incredibly common for her to convince her clients that they or their family members deal with issues related to "deviant" sexual behaviour and "perversions". When I heard what Ruby said in court, it practically mirrored the experience I've heard others share regarding the kinds of ideas Jodi perpetrates.
Sometimes shrinks project their own insanity on their clients. Remember the Satanic Panic years? Absolutely chilling. Another example is "facilitated communication" where the children would make all sorts of wild accusations (that were completely false), it was all the facilitator's imagination. And let's not forget Freud and his weird hangups about sex. I am sure there are many more examples.
You are speaking exactly my thoughts! Jodi absolutely put it into Ruby's head that her son had "been a pornography addict since age 3" and all that other madness, unless Ruby somehow independently came up with the exact same sort of fixation. She isn't a therapist, she's a cult leader and abusive narcissist who needs to be put away
Yes, I was initially reluctant to watch the one with her niece as I assumed it was just another fame hog after their 15 minutes and using some vague connection to get the attention.
Oh how wrong I was! She was very insightful and has clearly been through a lot, yet she is strong, fair, and eloquent. She leaves me with no doubt that her aunt is a cruel and disturbed nutter.
Jodi was really fixated on sex. I think she might’ve been SA’ed or assaulted as a child. Or as her niece suspected, maybe she’s gay. It could explain why she and Ruby were always together and basically living together and turned on Kevin. And in Mormonism, your life is over as you know it if you come out as gay, so maybe she was projecting her self hatred and sexual frustration out onto her clients.
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Great videos Doc. My hubby and I spend too much time watching and laughing your content. Btw, we celebrated our 30th wedding anniversary this year. Same date as you and your wife. 😊
Aw, that’s adorable. Congrats!
Happy 30th anniversary!
Don't believe it
@user-nh6mg9tl6j I love my hubby more today then when we married. We have 5 sons and sadly lost Allen ( our eldest) to an undiagnosed heart condition. We have had our ups and downs like most couples, it's not all roses. Believe what you will, but your comment tells me you are a tad unhappy with your life and some people genuinely care and happy with theirs lives. I am wishing you all the happiness for the future and hope you cheer up a bit. Oh, remember that you are not completely dressed unless you are wearing a smile. 😊
@@MelEveritt said with so much grace. Also, I am so sorry for your loss.
Thank you for:
1. Getting this right,
2. Doing the work to put this case together,
3. Coming to the right result where every other news stream is getting it wrong; and;
4. Placing blame where it belongs
Agre 💯
I am guessing the medical emergency was an attack of anger outburst combined with hysteria and violence
Humongous narcissistic injury. She probably completely lost her 💩
Great Video and excellent analysis! I was in Jodi's connexions program and am so grateful for this videos and others of experts talking about her therapy. This women is behind a lot of destruction in my life and all this coming out has been so helpful for my healing and my mental health. Thank you!
Got any helpful info, names, methods of abuse, accounts of malpractice, evidence to help convict, email addresses, I am glad you feel better now please consider how you can help stop this from happening.
sending lots of love to you
@@luckylion2657 Trying to piece things together and see what I can contribute. Its obviously very complicated and difficult. I want to make sure I can help, but I need to navigate things in a way that is best for my children. From Jodi's recommendation I have been separated from my kids for almost 2 years. I had things that I was looking for help with when I met Jodi and some helped and some made things entirely worse. Leaving the group was like leaving a cult, and not everyone believed me when I said it was. No I am feeling so vindiated for getting out.
@@Ingaforagingandgrowing Thank you! really.
Can u sue her?
To repeat what I've been saying on all the videos I've seen about this: Jodi Hildebrandt may very well be much more dangerous than Ruby. This does not excuse Ruby's behaviour in any way whatsoever, but the "allegations" Ruby made against her children sound like they were absolutely put into her head by Jodi, based on testimony from Jodi's niece and others who have had to deal with her. Jodi seems to accuse everyone she comes into contact with of having a "porn addiction", or other perceived "sexual immorality". Jodi Hildebrandt is a dangerous cult leader, with Ruby Franke not far behind her
And from other Documentaries I have seen, and True Crimes as well, is that those that Protest, those in Leadership and Authorities are often times doing EXACTLY what they are supposedly “against” !
Not may be, but certainly. Jody is a psychopath. Ruby has been brainwashed, like many parents before her. I think that Jodi used & picked Ruby because of her fame or large following of 2.5 million on YT, and her attractiveness or charisma. With a psychopathic strategy she isolated Ruby from her family & friends and even her husband - as a predator in the home's nest of her prey, which is immensely intrusive and having gained absolute power.
Also, at her arrest, Jodi told the police officer that both kids should not be allowed being together with other kids, insinuating that they were sexually dangerous. Luckily this was immediately hold against her in the arrest report. Ruby in court was just repeating what she was brainwashed by Jodi
7:32 well...I mean...Ruby was misbehaving before Jodi as well. She refused to give her kids food looong before Jodi. I think it's just a case of two crappy people being even more crappy together.
I think that there is something going on between those two women...
it's called the stink of loving to abuse.
Like what ?
Sick & evil 😈
@@RoseNZieg wth
They are lesbians.
Somehow I think their "partnership" goes beyond being business partners.
I just posted the exact same comment 😮😂
Apparently Jodi is often recommended by the LDS church to their members for "counseling" or whatever, so I wonder if this is how Ruby initially met Jodi. However it happened it seems like Ruby was encouraged to take her already overly harsh discipline to the next level via Jodi. The testimony of Jodi's niece on her experience undergoing Jodi's "therapy" is worth a listen. It's horrific. Those poor kids.
If that’s true they can sue the church.
You have to watch Adam Steeds interview about what Jodi did to
His life!
@@jeanade9010 I haven't heard that one yet, I'll look it up!
@@jeanade9010, that poor man. I watched the whole interview. She systematically tried to destroy his life by using his own wife.
Since Lori Daybell I'm curious/ scared to think what the lds church is teaching women about raising children?
So glad u brought up her niece Jessie’s interview! I watched it yesterday and was floored. She painted an exact picture of cult like abuse. So sorry Jessie’s parents weren’t around to protect her?! She was very well spoken I’m glad she spoke out. Hope she testifies!
Jesse uses they/them pronouns
It is so good to see that the number of subscribers are steadily increasing! Well deserved success Dr Grande! Please keep uploading, I learn so much from you.
SUGGESTION: The shared psychosis of Eugenia Cooney and her mother. Both delusional about her anorexia? If not, what can possibly be going on here?
Heck yeah!!! Or maybe on the opposite spectrum amberlynn Reid & how she manipulates her ex partners to take care of her
That would be a good one. And her mom's denial too.
Oh her Mom KNOWS she's sick ..she is fine.with her being sick ..it gets them attention and the bills paid..the answer to this is someone stepping in and DEFUNDING ALL OF THE CHANNELS she takes part in ....that means viewers MUST STOP WATCHING...anyone.funding this is helping KILL HER..companies need to straight out tell her that she can fund her bills and life by getting HEALTHY and documenting the wellness journey otherwise that they are PULLING THE PLUG on them making ANY MONEY from this sickness ..period... the minute they stop her from making money from being anorexic is the minute she'll stop doing it ..or at least she'll try.. because it's all about that paycheck
Yes I’d like him to see that too.
@@jeepathecreepa It's so sad. But if someone wants to be sick ... she is an adult. But also when youre sick do you really know your sick or would you be able to fix yourself if you knew you were sick? It's such a complicated situation balancing human rights and ethics..
I'm interested to know where Ruby's husband is in all of this. You mentioned he moved out. Did he not care about the welfare of his children? And where did he go? Thank you Dr. Grande.
His lawyer did an interview and claimed that he knew nothing and hadn't seen the children in months because he was told to stay away. (eyeroll)
Yeah. WTH. He just checked out for 13 months and had no clue what was happening to his 6 kids?
That doesnt happen. Im sure he was LDS and kids are their life's blood, the kids will spread the faith to dominate the world at some point.
I am sure he will come up for some interest in this case. Jodi chased him out and took his wife, he had to be some kind of emasculated chump to go along with that, or what?
I don't know the answer, but I do know the family courts are often very harsh to men. Decades of feminist training has that effect.
Jodi and Ruby convinced Kevin that he was a deviant toxic to his family and that he needed to distance himself from his kids while he cleared his Distortions and returned to living the Truth.
nope the courts didn't tell him to stay away@@frakismaximus3052
As a mental health specialist, this story must be very upsetting for you Dr. Grande.
did you watch the interview with guy she got her license put on probation over? breaking confidentiality and dual relationship is the very tippy top of that ice berg. Its a 6 hour long interview. She systematically destroyed him using his history of being abused as a child and brainwashing his wife to psychologically torture him and get him kicked out of university, get him arrested, get his children taken away. And it might all have been because he was targeted by the mormon church due to changing the law in idaho regarding the statute of limitations for pedophiles. The lady is the hannibal lecter of marriage counselors.
I think he's going to be fine
I never trust mental health “specialists”.
Very sad. Many of Jodi's clients/victims are coming forward.
It’s a good day when Dr. Grande uploads 😁
So everyday is a good day.
@@itchydez exactly
Several times a day some days😮🎉🎉🎉
I used to work with a counselor that left her husband for a client. Well I just found out she left that dude for a DIFFERENT CLIENT and now has the new client living in her house (and has kicked the other one out). Like, how do you even allow that to happen not once, but TWICE??
Those two are lovers, Jodi is definitely a lesbian. My mother had an affair with my sister’s school teacher when I was 7, her friendship with her started out and progressed gradually to be more obsessive and consuming like this until my father and her husband got suspicious and they ended up doing such toxic horrific shit together really destroying the family. Eerily similar
Apparently, Ruby hired Jodi to be her son Chad's therapist. If so, the alarming punishments viewers began detecting were Jodi's ideas all along.
TY so much for your wisdom. I’m a nursing professor & educate people fr various parts of the world & in some countries Child protection laws are non existent & some students have shared experiences of horrific child abuse. In a twisted way, this sad story may promote better laws in foreign countries for children -- especially for girls.
God bless you❤
@ptandhasetti Grief US put your own house in order .The list of squalor is endless in US
I agree. Cults, homeschooling that isnt tracked by an agency, propaganda, etc, should all be made illegal. These things ruin our society and place our vulnerable members in danger.
Thank you for your service. 🌹
Start with the US
Jodi is a predator. Ruby is a sadist.
This is so horrific. Those poor kids. When I was a kid my gma would tell me I was most likely going to hell because of my “sins” and I would be terrified. I would wake up promising myself that I would be good that day. I wouldn’t sin.
I was a child. What sins??
Thank goodness my kids don’t have religion pushed on them. I won’t allow it now. They can decide when they’re older but I’ll never tell them they’re “sinners”
So messed up 🤦🏻♀️
I'm so sorry you experienced this, and glad you survived it! exactly... how can a child "sin"? How many adults are trying to recover from their childhood, I know I still am and I'm in my 60's.
@@priscillaa.8548 thank you. There was a lot more trauma in my early days by my grandmother and stepdad. I would never let me kids experience that. It doesn’t make someone a “better” or “stronger” person, it just gives them ptsd.
Sounds like you may have had religious trauma yourself. I’m really sorry you had to go through that as well.
I’m so sorry you were abused like that. I had an abusive home but not religious. At 18 I became Christian and I tell my children that we all make mistakes (I don’t say “sinner”) and that God forgives us and EXPECTS us to make mistakes and we just keep trying our hardest to get better-we have to practice just like we do with anything else.
Since Jesus helped me feel worthy of love after the abuse I suffered it really breaks my heart whenever I hear stories like yours where people used something that should be a constant source of feeling worthy, forgiven, accepted and loved as a source of torture and fear.
I’m just so sorry that happened to you and you’re so amazing for stopping that cycle and raising your children to know love ❤
I hate to say this. It’s a very extreme version; but this is not too far off from the religious sect I grew up in. This entire story scares the shit out of me.
Which religious sect if you don't mind revealing
@@helenmcdonnell2585I’m guessing JW
LDS?
Mormons follow religion (strict rules and laws) they don't follow Jesus. God said you will know who are His children by their fruits :)
With all these weird and obsessive ideas about sex and shame, I wonder if Johdie was a repressed, self hating, closet lesbian? Hence the aspects of wanting to "cleanse" children of unclean desires, and how she obsessed over the idea that the children had "impure" thoughts and compulsions? Them just being a reflection of her own self hatred and disgust projected onto others? I can't imagine growing up in a morman household made that any easier. She probably grew up being constantly told that people who felt the things she did on the inside, were shameful, unclean abominations. Could also explain the weird relationship she had with Ruby as well.
It seems this goes beyond abuse...When you withhold water, drinks, food, from people, and are tied up, that seems like attempted murder, because one can't go long without drinking...They were undercharged...Both of them do not deserve all that money, nice houses and land, that's for sure...
They are both sadists and its pure luck they didn't kill a child.
And since they were growing children the malnutrition will PERMANENTLY affect their physical development. There should be some special charge for that, too. Its worse than a bruise that will heal.
Incredible how these women can walk around claiming Godly wisdom when all they really did was prove that evil exists
@@lostandfound5145 ~ They act like their entitled to do that....
"Ruby Franke is a social media influencer..." I'm already disappointed in her life choices.
😂
Great synopsis. I look forward to the jury saying guilty.
Thanks for this awesome update also I do hope they rot in prison for their horrific crimes
No sex? How does Jodi think we all got here?
Ruby made the false claims that her child was abusing other kids & cant be around other kids to abuse the child further through the courts. By making those claims, that child who escaped & got help will have to be separated from his siblings inside the the foster system by law so not only will he be further traumatized by losing contact with his siblings, he will be labeled as an abuser in public for life, which was likely her secondary reason for the false accusations. He will suffer due to the sibling separation because he won’t know that his younger siblings are ok, which is another layer of abuse. The oldest or older siblings in abusive homes often take over the parental role of caring for the younger kids & protecting them from the abuse when possible even if it means they get beaten more. I think this false accusation shows even more what an evil, horrible parent Ruby Franke is. I hope her & Jodi spend life or most of the rest of their lives in prison. The father needs to be put in jail for the abuse as well. Even if he didn’t know about the latest abuse, he backed up Ruby’s abuse in videos for years. 🤬🤬🤬
That is exactly what i thought. I hope the kids are in loving save homes!
About time they are charged with aggravated child abuse. Justice is slow but it’s arms are long. It’ll grab you soon enough. Mahalo 🌺 Dr. Grande
My heart goes out for the children.
The only thing I can say is I hope the system and everyone around those children do right by them.
The children have been through enough.
They need to thoroughly investigate this. No stone unturned.
I watched Jessie's interview, & there were people at the church, that saw something was wrong, & those people turned to the church to report it. Only for the church to turn around Jody what being said, nothing was done for Jessie, it only got her in more trouble. Then there were church members who literally saw duct tape over Jessie's mouth & said nothing. People reporting back to Jody. Jessie goes to the police, and does not believe her. Her parents, easily handed her over to Judy for almost a year. When she told her parents what Jody had done. Her parents told her not to tell anyone. To keep quiet.
The church, law enforcement, parents, all the adults around her, fail this 15 year old.
Out of all them not one stepped up.
Now you have Ruby's children. How many people failed those children? The system failed them. This is with good people neighbors who spoke up & tried to help, an older sibling who tried to help.
Nothing was done.
It took a twelve-year-old child, with the courage enough to escape. It took physical wounds, evidence of tying them up. For people to finally do something.
My heart aches for children.
I know CPS is under stuffed, over worked, under paid. I am so sick and tired of hearing this. When will our government do something about this.
I am in my forties and I remember my parents, talking about how CPS are under staffed, over worked, & under paid.
We can't accept job that's just how it.
I'm not blaming the people who worked in CPS, they're trying their best. When you're overworked and tired, your best is not good enough and it's not your fault.
This is not a new problem. We are talking about our children. Maybe I don't know enough politics. It's just that if I've been hearing about this problem for approximately 30 years, when does the government start to address it??
Sorry for rambling & venting.
Just very frustrating.
Jodi Hildebrandt should be dubbed The Queen of Word Salad. Not to excuse Kevin but do we know for how long Jodi has been pulling the strings? Some of these charismatic people can be very dangerous to the mental health of a person who falls under their spell. There were signs and warnings that Kevin failed to heed.
Not only do I look forward to on a daily basis what Dr Grande's "question will be" but I await with bated breath to hear his "speculation".
Baited
no, it's bated, short for 'abated."
@@LadyCatterlyomg I always thought it was baited! 🙃 Thanks!
Thank you for explaining this all so methodically. I found myself going down a rabbithole with this story but none of the videos I watched answered all my questions about who these people were and what they did. You're so good at outlining stuff.
You missed that Jodi was therapist for Chad in 2019 and was the one who recommended Chad go to the reform camp. Jodi, I believe got ahold of Ruby and wanted Ruby’s influence and money. So had to get rid of kevin so that Ruby could be fully controlled by Jodi
Jodi was hanging out with Paige and only moved on to Ruby when they kicked her out.
Brilliant summing up. I wish Ruby and Jodi could see this. I would love their minds to be opened up to how warped their thinking is. Sadly I think they will always be ignorant narcissists
Wow, I had a hunch that Jodie was the match to Ruby’s gasoline, and that’s why the hubby was kicked out. But the hubby doesn’t get a pass, he was just as in the wrong as Ruby, condoning the harsh punishments of the kids.
I am convinced Ruby kicked Kevin out because her passion was for Jodi. "Folié a deu", as they say...
@@shandalear3252 Goosebumps
Parents killing their kids and families every day in the news.
When I was a kid, we only fought over 3 TV channels. Now people kill each other for less. It’s Horrible
Practitioners like Jody not only cause people with mental health issues to get worse: but they add to the negative stigma already imposed in the minds of those who suffer from mental disorders and refuse to get help.
I have said for decades that if you break a bone you get help to fix it. Mental health help is just as important. The brain is so important, our whole body depends on the brain to help our body be healthy. A car (our bodies)won’t run smoothly if there is something wrong with the engine (brain).
Shame on Jody for all the wrongs she has committed against humanity. Shame on the disciplinary board for allowing Jody to continue practicing. 😡
Agree 💯
Great analysis! In all honesty, you have just described, every other person in the state of Utah. I can honestly say this because I was born & raised there. I lived there until my mid 30’s. It seemed liked every conversation you had with someone eventually led to the “impure thoughts equals shame” subject. I remember thinking it’s only natural to wonder about the birds & the bees. At the same time, I asked myself, what are these people being taught in this religion that they hold so dear? I was raised Catholic, so I was always on the outside, looking in. I’m glad I left it that way.
This was one of your very best, Dr. Grande: thorough, well researched and perceptive. I would add that like Lori Vallow, both Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrant perverted their LDS belief in such an evil way that their children (and Jodi’s niece) had their sanity and bodies destroyed. Lori’s children were murdered, and Ruby’s two youngest children surely must have been within a few weeks or months from dying of malnutrition and dehydration. I listened to the 911 recording in which a nearby neighbor, who truly rescued the 12-year-old Franke boy even though the child was a perfect stranger, relayed to the operator what had occurred in his encounter with the boy. The neighbor rescued the boy first by believing him, then giving him something to eat and drink, and removing the duct tape that bound him. Most importantly, he called 911 to summon police and EMTs. Finally, after multiple complaints by many people, the law stepped in. It broke my heart to listen to the neighbor, a man, barely containing his tears and sobs as he reported on what the boy had told him about his mistreatment and also that the boy said it was his own fault that he had been punished. The other hero here is the twelve-year-old himself, who with his last bit of physical and emotional strength, and with his love for his younger sister, 10, had the courage to escape Jodi’s home to ask for help. It’s so heartbreaking!
What kind of weak man would have allowed some woman to to move into his home and start making demands for when he could speak with his wife? This is what happens when everyone involved is batsh*t crazy and no one is putting the children first.
Dr. Grande, your show gets better and better. I love the eloquent way you explain these stories and the witty way you deliver your final conclusion. I completely agree with your analysis.
LDS or LSD... which is the most toxic?
If the officials that are appointed to oversee institutions such as TCOJCLDS keep “climbing into bed” with the people that operate the institutions that they’re hired to oversee? This horror show will NEVER get much better.
Thanks Sr. Grande! As always, it was a pleasure!
Kevin’s attorney made me furious in his interview on the Law & Crime Network. Unreal!!! Who are these people?!?!
Thank GOD Thank JESUS ❤😊❤ for YOU A REAL DOCTOR 🙏 GOD BLESS
That fact that any mother could be this, selfish, heartless, evil, and sadistic is appalling. To think of what these precious children went through by literally being starved etc, is heartbreaking. I can't even let the stray cats livin around the lake I live on go hungry so I can't understand how this evil duo caused childen to starve. Im glad these evil women are being held with no bond. I hope they suffer the same pain, fear, and isolation they put these children and through. Thank u for covering this awful case, Dr. Grande!! As always, your insight, analysis and opinions are so well informed and accurate.❤️
How did that woman ever get to be a licensed therapist 😮
It’s not hard. All a license means is that the board has verified your identity, degree, hours of supervision, criminal history, and continuing education. You pass a multiple choice test on clinical concepts and pay a small fee, and you’re licensed. It’s a minimum standard. Having a license does not mean one is a good therapist.
@@dwinthrop1015imo it’s not that easy. I don’t know about utah but in california we need 3,000 of supervision hours getting paid ****.
Licensing boards are just money grabs
"...held without bail."
That made me snicker.
Thanks for the info on Jodi HIldebrandt's probationary period back in 2012 which supports what her niece Jessi mentioned in her interview about how Jodi treated her.
Thanks Dr. The story almost had a tragic ending the child's will to live saved him and his sister I'm not diagnosing anyone in this case saying that these two are wacko
I’ve appreciated your videos for a few years now. I believe you to be reliable, always notating your source, an effective communicator, among several of your other positive attributes. I enjoy your subtle sense of humor :) and like the content you choose. Thank you!
He works hard. Never seem to vacation. Thank you for your appreciation. I'm sure Dr. Grande is pleased.
@@LaniLanilei thanks. I hope so. I had no idea this was going to be published publicly… I was contributing and wanted to be specific as to why. Anyway, I hope he my message reaches him and I appreciate you taking the time to comment. 😊
Excellent narrative, Dr. Grande. This story simply makes me sick. I have 3 grown children and after reading this story I asked them if I ever abused them while dishing out punishments. They laughed hysterically and said I suffered more from their hands than they did mine. I threatened many punishments but rarely carried them out. When they were growing up there were no electronic devices to confiscate so it was bicycles and skateboards. They grew up to be great kids and I’m proud of them but there is one threat still hanging over their heads. One of them will have to take care of me in my old age which terrifies them so they’re going out of their way to keep me healthy.
Those Turpin parents in CA each got LIFE for the abuses against their large brood of children. Good. I pray these young people can heal and find joyous lives. They sure dederve it.
The poor children. Thank goodness one of them was so brave to make a run for it - as broken as the system is at least they now have a chance of breaking out of a situation that could have only gotten worse. Thanks Dr. Grande - I love your narratives! 🌵🌵🌵
The backstory provided here for Jodi, mixed with Ruby's fame as a family vlogger, proved a recipe for disaster; thanks (as always) for the further update, Dr. Grande.
This case really affected me. It really demonstrates clearly the dark side of what human beings are capable of, even to their own flesh and blood.
Excellent commentary! Since I became aware of this case a few days ago, I have thought Jodi Hildebrandt was the mastermind of this horror. I am so glad these women are in jail. They should not be allowed to do any more damage.