Having had a Tesla for more than a year I really don’t miss gear changes, rumbling engines, the smell of gas. So happy to have moved the electricity instead of gas or diesel.
@@RossMKF1 Unfortunately it is not that easy, you need to break really hard in order for them to engage, and it's barely used during normal driving situations. The only 2 non emergency situations that comes to mind is hard braking coming off of a highway, or low speeds, where the recouperative breaks are not as effective.
Ehh BEVs are are basically muscle cars. Heavy, Straight line speed and lots of grunt / torque. Sad no one has made a proper coupe 2 door fun car. It's still American Muscle just using Electricity. The closest thing is the e-Tron GT.
When I hear him talking about missing the roar of the engine, I understand completely, but what also comes to mind is someone explaining how they miss the feeling of a rotary dial phone.
Actually the thumbnail made me hope to see a well-known senior driver come quite close to the speed of light with the car, grumble about the sound and that you have to pay extra, to have a rotary dial phone installed into the console ;) Rotary dial phones still have the best sound IMO.
Tesla have service centres already as well as the mobile technicians. They can also be repaired at a lot of body shops if they have approval (high voltages require training I think). As for Tesla being big business and they are just after your money you are partly correct. Elon had a vision of improving driving whilst removing the need to burn oil.
Tesla keeps improving the quality of their cars and decreasing prices at the same time. Tesla has no problems selling all the cars they make. That leaves me wondering how you figure that Tesla is "just after your money". Oh, and do read Tesla's mission statement. Tesla is after climate change. Making the world's best cars in order to entice people out of fossil fuel cars is part of the solution.
@@alanrickett2537 I think the FUD flood has crested and levels are rapidly falling. All the "Tesla is bankwupt" stuff will no longer fly. "Tesla’s (original) mission statement was “to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable transport.” However, in mid-2016, under Elon Musk’s leadership, the company changed the corporate mission to “to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy.” This new statement indicates a slight but significant shift in the company’s business, to address market opportunities for renewable energy. In a way, the new corporate mission recognizes the relevance of the firm’s batteries and related energy storage products in markets in addition to the electric vehicle market. Tesla Inc.’s mission statement has the following notable components:" I'd argue with the "slight" claim. Storage and solar are ramping up very rapidly. A year from now we're probably going to be looking at Tesla as the world's most important battery manufacturer and not very long after that they may be the world's largest battery manufacturer. Tesla solar should regain the number one position that Solar City had at its peak and rush on past. Anyone who can't look at what Tesla has already done and is in the process of accomplishing and see how it locks in with the mission statement is as blinded to reality as one of those Qistas. The last year has, I think, see a great wave of resignation from the Elon's a Liar army. Desertions have shrunk the ranks down to a few assorted cranks who don't have much influence except, perhaps, with their senile parents.
Tesla does have service centers. They simply don’t have dealerships. They have showrooms at the service centers. They also have convenient mobile service that can fix many things in your driveway.
Over 80% of service calls are Mobil service calls. There is significantly less maintenance for an EV. In 60,000 miles of my EV I have filled the washer fluid, changed an air filter, and new tires, that's it. No service is the best service.
@@fortheloveofcarz There are many areas in which Tesla would love to open more physical locations but are limited from doing so by state law. Take your state of Pennsylvania. Tesla is limited to a maximum of 5 total owned stores and most of the service centers have a “store” side attached that would be analogous to a traditional dealer location. Tesla already has four of these; two in and around Philadelphia and two in and around Pittsburgh. If they want to add locations to sell cars, they have to pick spots that will give them the greatest impact, but unlike any other because they direct sell, they are limited by state law to only one additional location in your state. Other car manufacturers are limited only by their dealer agreements that define each dealer’s territory. Tesla has opted to eschew a dealer network for a number of reasons, but certainly toward the top of the list is that a traditional auto dealer business model (where at least half of the profit comes from servicing) will not work for EVs in general and Tesla in particular, as EVs do not have nearly the same level of servicing requirements seen in a typical ICE vehicle. Right or wrong, Tesla has elected a different path to get their cars in the hands of the end consumer than is the norm, but your state government, and many others as well, (at the behest of the auto dealers associations) are actively inhibiting Tesla from improving their ability to sell and service their vehicles with protectionist laws that seek to protect the incumbent dealers. Some of the “blame” for limited servicing options boils down to being a young company that does not yet have mature network in place, some of it comes down to Tesla’s expansion choices, but a non-insignificant portion falls on state governments looking to protect existing auto dealers. FYI- in 2-1/2 years and 41,000 miles I’ve only replaced the wiper blades, added wiper fluid, and jus replaced the tires. That’s it. That’s the extent of servicing my car has needed. Tesla has been out twice to perform a couple of minor service bulletins that were done in my driveway in about 10 minutes each.
@@fortheloveofcarz The new Model S zero-to-60-mph acceleration time of 1.99 seconds, a quarter-mile time of 9.3 seconds, and a top speed of 200 mph for the $121,190 also 520+ mile range....
Most of your comments/observations are subjective, for example: that the sound, rumble and vibration from an internal combustion engine is a personal preference. With regards to service and charging, your knowledge of Tesla is lacking. One of the advantages of a Tesla or any electric car is that there is little to no maintenance required. If you need to have service, the appointments are made through the app and in some cases, depending on the work that is needed Tesla will decide to send a mobile service car to your home or work place to carry out the repair. Full disclosure, I haven't had to pay for any repairs so far as my Model 3 is still under warranty. In two and a half years of ownership, for maintenance I have only spent about $100 CAD ($78.30 USD) on wiper blades and cabin air filters. I have had to replace the tires that it was equipped with from the factory, which I elected to upgrade to Michelin Sport 4s, which cost $1800 CAD ($1400 USD). I was delinquent in rotating my tires so the rear tires wore out prematurely. I have driven across the North American continent and not once did I feel range anxiety. Also, you do not need to stop for 45 minutes to charge every time you stop. First, you do not empty the battery and then refill it to full, like most people do with ICE vehicles. It is best to charge to 80-90% at home and only discharge to 20% for local driving. On long road trips you will typically charge to 100% and afterwards it is more efficient use of time to charge to 70% at a supercharger, which in most cases takes only 15-20 minutes and then move on, in that time you can get out and take a bathroom break and grab a coffee. If you do need to charge for longer, then plan that around stopping for lunch or dinner. In most cases the car is done charging before you finish your meal. Battery Electric Vehicles are not as inconvenient as people think, BEVs offer advantages over ICE in the overall cost to own and operate not to mention some improvements to the impact on the environment. BEVs will not save the world, but it is an important step in the right direction, when it comes to carbon emission reduction. You should do a video reviewing the Ford Mach-E next.
Tesla: - does not pay for marketing, lacks a marketing department - has the best marketing of any car company ever by an incredibly huge margin. They even have a Tesla on orbit around the Sun!
@@ILIKKA All the News channels that get paid for airing those Big Business ICE car company commercials, and the cheesy local dealership spots, broadcast every milestone Tesla makes - so one could argue the competition partially pays for Tesla's marketing. The competition (including Fiat Chrysler, and Honda) have paid Tesla hundreds of millions for Zero Emission Vehicle credits, which in turn pays for Tesla's global expansion. that's a win-win!
Charging while on a roadtrip is much faster than your claimed 45 minutes. try it. you may like those breaks too. its charged up every morning too because you can“fill it up“ at your house
Being on the road does not magically change how fast a supercharger will charge your car. It is completely dependent on how much charge you have before you plug it in and the amount you charge it to. This dictates how long it takes to charge.
@@fortheloveofcarz Yes, thats true. But what is the point of charging slow above 75% SoC when the battery is already nearly full and you are set to go? It's like me saying you need an oilchange in the middle of your Mustang roadtrip...
@@fortheloveofcarz If you charge to 100% then yeah, it’ll take a while. It’s better to charge enough to get to your next charger (with a small buffer) which is a lot quicker. I drove down through Denmark last year on the way to Berlin and only charged enough to get to the next charger as it was late at night. Each 45 minute drive was followed by a 10 minute charge whilst I got coffee and used the loo at the services.
The other thing to point out is that your first stop after starting your trip with a full charge is typically 5 hours after so, after that 5 hours of driving (which really is a lot), most people want to get something to eat, use the rest room, etc. Then, after that first "longer" stop, you can make shorter stops on subsequent legs of the trip to maximize the charge speed at lower states of charge.
@@lemongavine I can’t drive 5 hours without the need to stop! I need coffee which means I need to wee and repeat. Not to mention the need to stretch my legs to wake up after sitting for 2-3 hours. Most people seem to drive to get to their destination with comfort breaks as required including burger and fries for a quick munch on the way if required. I’ve not heard of many people who stop for a full meal lasting an hour when they could be on the road again.
What I like about EV power vs muscle car power is that you can use the EV power waaay more often because you don't draw attention with the noise. It's just way more usable.
@@nickiismymother4624 They lower prices in order to broaden their market. It's something like you said, but different. Within two years Tesla should start selling a $25k EV that will open the market wide open. And if that isn't enough Tesla is two or a bit more away from starting a robotaxi service which should make being driven around very, very affordable. Prices should settle in around $0.25/mile. That's going to give Tesla access to the whole thinig.
@@bobwallace9753 they have a “taxi service” ready to go, they’re just waiting on a couple more tweaks with autopilot and the go head from the government. The “taxi service” is what they call Ride Share. Lots of cool things coming within the next 2 years.
@@zaxio5336 Don't think you're correct. Last I heard Tesla figures they need roughly a year of large scale training for their FSD system. That means releasing FSD beta to all/most Tesla owners who have purchased FSD and running components of FSD in shadow mode on other (post Oct, 2016) Teslas. After a year finding and solving corner cases Tesla estimates it will take about a year to gather enough data to allow agencies to start permitting driverless operation. Maybe Tesla is sandbagging and it will be a bit sooner or they could run into a difficult corner case and it could take a bit more. Autopilot is not a full self driving system. It's a driver assist program and lacks many components needed for driverless operation and robotaxi services.
To your point, my new 2016 Model S P100D Ludicrous listed for $160,900 with all options. It does 0-60 in 2.4 seconds and has a range of 315 miles. The new Plaid+ Model S will do 0-60 in 1.9 (?) seconds, have a range of 520+ miles, and will be able to take advantage of V3 Superchargers to cut charging times by 30%. Total List Price with all options?: $149,990. Tesla keeps their margins in the 20%-25% range and passes any additional savings they achieve through innovation to customers. Even for their less expensive models. And they still roll out OTA updates free of charge.
“Apparently Tesla doesn’t have a dealership/service department network.” Wrong. This is the kind of misinformation that you get when lack of research prior to posting a product review occurs.
@@Coltn3125 what is a stealership? A combined service center and sales. Tesla debundles these. There are service centers and Tesla "showrooms" which are similar to a stealership sales service. The difference is it's not he Tesla's rep's job to jack you for as much product or price as possible. A Tesla car buying experience doesn't have to take 3 hours of negotiating and "let me talk to the manager" breaks. I've seen the various Models at a showroom and through there test driven each Tesla model. While one can buy a Tesla online (something you can't do with other cars) we bought our first Tesla with the "help" of a sales rep at the store. As to service there are at least three within 50 miles of me (probably less than 30 miles) and we live "in the sticks." I use the app to schedule service and if they determine a mobile tech can't handlemit, they schedule me for my chosen local service center.
@@HarveyPayne There is a huge difference between a dealership and a showroom. A Tesla showroom is not there to sell you the vehicle but to help you better understand the car and have a good customer experience. A dealership is not built for the customer but to sell and get as much money out of a customer. This is why if you poll people you will find that 99 of a 100 people hate or avoid a dealership.
@@Coltn3125 I totally agree. I don't feel like I need to take a shower after leaving a Tesla showroom. The same is not true for most stealerships I've been in. What I was trying to say is the showroom and service center together provide the good features and services that are provided by the typical stealership. The video was saying not having dealership was a negative. My point was this negative didn't exist. Now there are some states that have strong auto stealership lobbies that have successfully prevented (so far) Tesla from doing good work in that state. To those states I say, shame on you.
In an accident this car will save your life compared to any other car on earth. My kids love me to lose me in an accident...no way, good enough reason to buy Tesla.
the Wham Bam Tesla Cam channel further demonstrates your point! I am not affiliated with the channel - just recently stumbled upon it, and afterward my wife said we will replace our cars with Teslas and our little one's first car will only be a Tesla
More than a few fire departments and police officers could not understand how that Tesla could survive such a crash (with the occupant injured free most of the time) when the other car(s) are wrecked beyond recognition!
@@radicalrick9587 lol and they use an argument that batteries are very bad for fires. But not thinking how many fires happen on a daily basis for ICE cars.
My first video watched on this channel. How is it possible this has this level of: camera work, drone work, microphone - audio, Video editing, script, and the channel only has 700 subscribers?
I've been doing UA-cam for a long time. :-) I have access to a lot of cool tools. This channel is a fun passion project. I wuld love for it to become my Main thing because cars are my passion, but I cant spend too much time on it yet. :-) It will grow, it just takes time.
Keep the mustang , buy a Tesla , take the ford out once a month to remind yourself of why you brought the Tesla . Sell the mustang in ten years to a museum so people can see just how far we have come in that short period . Only 112 years ago if this guy was around he would be comparing a horse to a model T and deciding whether to upgrade or not . Ice is dead , time to move on .
10 years the mustang will be worthless. They are not a rare car and made in the 100 thousands. 50 years it may be worth something. Buying a gas car today is just throwing money away. They will be all but worthless in the next 6 years.
Sorry, but he would have compared the Model T to a Baker Electric, and the electric would come up wanting. As EVs do now. As to the long term value of a piece of tech gear...tell me again how much a 1st gen iPhone is worth? Now how much is a landline dial phone worth...seeing as how it, unlike the first iPhone, STILL WORKS?
@@billcichoke2534, you’re comparing a smartphone to an EV? You do know the difference in battery tech and management, right? begins. Avg, ICE car’s life is 250,000 miles. Tesla batteries are expected to last between 500,000-800,000 miles. Your phones battery last 2 yrs before degradation begins.
@@Handlethis342 Uh, yes, I am. Just like any other tech gear, current electric vehicles can only be software upgraded so far, before different hardware is needed. And, like touchscreen phones and computers, the only way to get that, is to buy a newer car. EXAMPLE: 1st gen Roadster, Model S. The current usage pattern of not staying with the same vehicle for over 4 years, means all those numbers you mentioned will be pointless. Just like newer cellular standards, older cars will be incompatible with newer charging standards, and risk being cut off from charging capability...see Tesla. Obsolescence...not a huge issue with ICEVs. Pretty big problem for tech items, including EVs since 2005.
@@taylor92493 You don't have at least a dryer plug nearby? A standard 120v plug is painfully slow. 20 minutes at a super charger should get you about 200 miles of range. Should be enough for most daily driving activity.
Just did a 730 mile road trip with my dual motor Model 3. It was my first big road trip. Since I had range anxiety I ended up stopping at every supercharger (they were generally between 125-180 miles apart), but I never charged more than 25 min (usually only needed 15-20min). The most surprising thing is that I made the trip in a day. I haven't been able to do that for last 10 years anymore, as it was too exhausting (I'm getting old). The stops for supercharging plus the autopilot removed a lot of the exhaustion, as did the very comfortable seat.
My Model Y sometimes takes 35 minutes to charge from 80 miles back up to 280, and if I go full charge it takes 45-50 minutes. But not complaining Love the car.
Have a Tesla for roughly 2 months now and must say ... Dont miss gas stations at all. Ride is also really smooth and autopilot makes driving so relaxing. Cant wait for FSD Beta here.
People don't talk about the autopilot much, but is extremely life changing feature in Telsa. If you commute to work everyday and at the end of the day you are driving home, you are tired and sleepy. Having the Tesla drives you on a busy and jam commute home is alot more safer than you think. You have no idea how many times I almost I got into an accident when I am driving home at the end of the day because I was so tired.
@@fortheloveofcarz Ella Roberta Kissi-Debrah 9 years old died in 2013 after 27 visits to hospitals in three years due to asthma attacks. On 16 December 2020, the London Inner South Coroner's Court concluded its two-week inquest, led by coroner Philip Barlow concerning the death of nine-year-old Ella Roberta Adoo Kissi-Debrah in February 2013. The coroner ruled that air pollution was a contributory factor in Ella's death as a consequence of acute respiratory failure...... Still like your ICE car ???
Growing up poor in the 70s, coming to a stop quiet is a stomach dropping event where you hope the engine was able to start before the lights turned green. That feeling came back to me about a decade ago when I bought an Altima Hybrid. I never got used to the feeling before I had to dump the car at a big discount to qualify for a loan at the bottom of the housing market. Hoping to get full self driving in the future when I'm too old to drive safely.
Why is a Tesla hater explaining the car to me? We have two. Just tell me if your mind was changed and why! :D For the 'hater experience' you should focus on what's different (without explaining the basics) and really focus on that first pedal mash, which is not the 'gas' but the accelerator. I know, old habits die hard. Another tip, always say which trim you're driving. It's not just Model 3, it's Model 3 Performance, LR AWD, or base model. That's important info.
when you mentioned switching back to your Mustang that made laugh. I remember my Tesla test drives, back to back Model Y the a Model 3. When I left in my Yukon, all I could think was a total dog the Yukon was.
Great point by mentioning it seems a bit more attached to the road, and the whole driving experience is better than you would think, just by being a simplistic car. Love the video!
Yup- the silence and minimalist experience IS very different, but, not so much in a negative way- it definitely grows on you, even without the acceleration "Tesla grin" :) Most importantly: the smooth silence and no vibration, plus AutoPilot, REALLY shines for road trips- much less driver fatigue, you are MUCH more relaxed. I call it "relaxing exhiliration"... :) I wish he had tried out the audio system, as it is phenomenal, and... the quality really shines, when you have no engine noise. I literally sometimes go sit in my car in garage, turn on good-source MP3 music or even UA-cam videos, sit in the comfy heated seats and relax, for some "car therapy"... it's the new man cave, as my wife says :)
@@ernestgalvan9037 Indeed and it's not healthy for us fanboys to feed ourselves a steady diet of adulation when NO car is for everyone nor perfect. He also said he would miss the acceleration.
Great video, I'm a hardcore car guy too. I have a supercharged ls6 street truck and a Single turbo FD RX7 and......... a Model 3 Performance on order Haha. Cant wait to punch it all the time with out worrying about the drivetrain damage and premium gas
I had all these questions before buying one. Almost one year into ownership now and there's no way ill ever buy a Gas car again. Appreciate the honest review,
Great Video and appreciate your willingness to give it an honest try. Some of us own Tesla just because it is a fun car to drive. Range anxiety goes away as you get to know the car. Both my cars are still under warranty and haven't paid a dime yet for any servicing. Wife's car was hit and body work was done at a local certified shop which is also a Lincoln Dealer. Beauty is nothing says you can't have a Tesla and Mustang :).
As a new user , you are missing a few things which you will only pick up later. To open the charge port, when the car is open, just poke the charge port and it will open. To close it, .... do nothing and it will close automatically if you don't plug in a charger To start the car - and you have the phone app - do nothing - it is ready to go since the app identifies you. You only tap the card if you don't have the app set up. I completely understand your feeling that you miss the sound of a good ICE engine. I do worry the majority of people that say this when they are used to crappy 4 cylinder engines and I don't understand how they can say they miss that; in your case I understand completely as I appreciate that a good engine has more to it. Other people have said this, but I have had good experience at Tesla service centers, the car even knows you need to go there in the morning and navigates you there. Thank you for your video.
@@fortheloveofcarz I believe there are more than you think. Unfortunately, the more vocal ones who aren't willing to have an objective discussion give the rest of us a bad rap. Even if you disagree with each other, you can do so respectfully. I've only had my Model Y a few months, and I love it, but I also recognize it's not perfect, and neither is the company (or any company). That drives/inspires future innovation in my opinion.
@@nazzarenopisano652 But is it really about Tesla or just the anonymity of the internet. You can go to any comment section on any site and you will find people like this who rather insult someone they disagree with rather than just say why they disagree. You see the same stuff from people arguing for ICE cars. They will call Teslas junk or toy cars. You can fairly argue that EVs aren't completely zero net emissions if you take into account construction and disposal of the cars. You can make arguments that Teslas build quality isn't always up to par. However, anyone who fairly evaluated a Tesla and drove one will never say they are junk or toys.
@@ymcpa73 I agree. As with many subjects, those who throw out the insults or are quick to dismiss usually don't know much about the subject. It's easy to insult on the internet. It takes a bigger person to admit that maybe there are things they don't know about, the knowing of which may change things.
There are Tesla service centres all over. Use your App to request repairs or service. On the issue of engine noise, try driving fir 2/3 hrs in both and see which one get you there still relaxed and less tired
I love riding horses, the smell, the feel, sound of creaking leather, as well as the bond that develops between rider and a wonderful 1,400 pound animal, but I don't use them for daily transportation. Horse racing is still a thing, along with trail rides, jumping competition, and carriage rides, so I'm sure ICE will be a thing for rich folk to play with in the future.
I can appreciate your sentiment. Its just the thing I'd expect from someone incapable of seeing beyond their own privilege. See believe it or now when you say ICS vehicles will be the playthings of the rich in the future it just shows how disconnected people who shill for them are. There is literately not a single Tesla out there the average consumer could actually afford to buy, Not one. On top of that if you look at every single EV available on the market only a couple can be had for under 30K and none of them have a range over 150 miles at that price. And they have no charging infrastructure either. So they are not affordable for the masses, and you cant actually take one on a trip over an hour long without charging, but there is no network to do so.... And that's on top of the lack of soul and un-repairabuility they have. They COULD be the vehicle of the future, but that future is not here yet. not even close. In fact I think the promise of that inevitable future that everyone seems to think is already here will bankrupt a bunch of automakers trying to sell cars no one wants. They may be awesome, but if you can't charge them no one cares unless they are just committed to virtue signaling how environmentally committed they are. In which case they can enjoy that while it lasts, once people actually start to talk about the environmental damage of mining the battery elements ,and the child labor that goes into that as well.
@@fortheloveofcarz I train horses, not a pampered owner, drive a 26 year old Ford Ranger, and a base 2017 Volt that cost just over 20K, so don't preach here about entitlement.
@@rgeraldalexander4278 It seems there is the assumption that these cars are affordable for the average person. They aren't. I own 3 ICE cars all of which will travel and hour and return home without a fill up. If I sold them all I still couldn't afford the cheapest Tesla. For me it was the pampered rich owner comment that set me off. It will be the poor like me who will drive the ICE cars and keep them alive and the reason is simple. They are cheap and fun to drive, and actually look pretty good, or at least different.
I'm glad you enjoyed the driving experience and look of the car. As others noted, the negatives you raised (charging time and service) aren't true or real problems.... In the end it's just an awesome vehicle.
Serenity Now and re the missing “ exhaust noise” not everyone wants to hear you coming and going. I used to need that, no longer. It’s now “walk softly, but carry a BIG stick”.
I can’t recall the amount of times I’ve had someone scream at me to slow down in first gear, going under the speed limit. I’m looking forward to the quietness.
A couple of things: Tesla does NOT do marketing. Their advertising budget is $0. What replaces marketing, is social media - like this video - and word of mouth recommendations. They take the hundreds of millions of dollars that ICE car manufacturers spend on advertising, and put it back into the cars and the production process (the machine that makes the machine) and continually make improvements. I charge my car at home 99% of the time. Every time I leave my house, I have as much charge as I need. Range anxiety only ever comes into my mind, when I'm on the road, and that's where the chargers are. Yes, I need to plan my trips to go from one Supercharger to the next, but it's easy to do (see: abetterrouteplanner.com.) Almost all of the Superchargers are near something so that you can relieve yourself, or get a coffee, and most of the time by the time I do that, my car is charged to the extent that I can get to the next stop with a reserve in charge of my choosing. But, when I drive locally, I'm ALWAYS full when I leave the house - how about you? Tesla has frequently made improvements to lower the price of manufacturing their cars, and then lowered the price to the customer. Take a look at what they are doing now with making the entire underbody of the Model Y (later with their other cars) with giant casting machines. It took a part that was made from around 80 welded parts, and they are now making that part with one casting. This will make the cars cheaper to make, stronger, and more efficient. They are moving to make the battery pack structural so that it doesn't have to be in a casing. Take a look at the history of the Model 3 and Model Y and see if they haven't lowered the price. It is a business, yes, but it's a business - especially in the car business - unlike any you've seen. Elon has stated that the whole purpose of Tesla is to make mobility sustainable. It also manufactures solar, and battery storage. These things go together to make homes that have an energy ecosystem where the parts work together seamlessly. I personally have all 3 and I charge my car with the sun. Then, to top it off, Elon is leveraging his fortune to fund SpaceX where he's trying to give the human race a backup (going to Mars) if we totally screw up the Earth. No one else is doing that.
Being a Ford owner/driver it might change his value impression since Ford spends $3,000 in advertising for every car they sell. So in 2020 they lost money on every car they made due to that advertising. Tesla spends its money on constantly improving the manufacturing process and features. The long term cost of ownership is the biggest single advantage in true cost. Not having to inspect the brake pads for 250,000 or be down to 80% battery capacity for over 1 million miles means that even if one has a loan and pays 4-5 years it still has an effective service life of the drive train about 30-40 years longer than an ICE car and be a car that is passed down through generations. The difference in safety from avoiding accidents is about 8 times more miles per accident than any ICE car and in the rare event of an accident, passengers are much less likely to be injured in a Tesla. Essentially, it is sort of a no brainer in all metrics of car value and utility. Then if that is not enough, the 95% of the day an owner is not using the care, within a year or two it can go off and earn $30-40,000 a year as a robotaxi.
I am not sure that is true. A lot of people that have no service center nearby purchase a car because of this service. Lack of any ability to repair without a several mile drive would kill sales. Can you link where you found the information that shows it is complementary?
Two things, you don't have to charge 45 minutes to 100% on roadtrips. Do 20 minutes so you make it to your next bathroom break. You also have the option to charge at a third party provider, not only Superchargers, it the location doesn't fit nicely. Change mind! :D
Some are free some are paying charge. But if you have to pay for charge it will cost half as much then filling a gas car. (assuming to refill a gas car is $20)
We live hours from the closest Tesla service center. Our 3 wouldn’t work. I placed a service call on the app and they sent a flatbed and took it to Vegas for service. The problem ended up being caused by us so we had to pay for the service. Parts, labor and a 150 mile tow cost $600. It was a very painless process.
I’m just curious, what did you do? Some suspension damage from driving or? That’s the only thing I can think of how you can damage the car and not have it repaired on warranty.
@@volkhen0 we we live in the country. We parked it outside for a week in the summer without using it. It ran the ac to keep the cabin from overheating which may or may not have attracted a rodent, which chewed some wires. We needed a couple of harnesses replaced.
@@markjames2338 yep, my wife has a special device in her fiesta after previous owner who lived in a country side. It makes some high frequency noise which is not audible for humans but painful for rodents. Also there are special sprays. In my car in engine compartment I also have few toilet hangs(?), I don’t know how it’s called in English but you hang it inside bowl. The smell of it supposedly scares away rodents too.
A product is more than just the piece you buy. LOVED the car. But the more I learn about the insurance costs, and repair fiascos especially with second hand ones that I could afford, The more I’m probably out.
@@fortheloveofcarz Cost of Tesla's keeps coming down. In 3 years time everyone will able to afford one. The truth is though that those RoboTaxi's are going to be so cheap and convenient that owning one will no longer make sense.
@@fortheloveofcarz You should price the insurance with Tesla. Their insurance is less expensive. Seems like these cars need less repairs and maintenance than an ICE car but it will still need some eventually and there can be issues there.
2019 mustang GT black on black ...24,000 mi I'm trading it in January ..when they drop the new 2024 Highlander model 3 performance I.. love the rumble I love the V8.. I love the manual.. but there's no fucking way.. excuse my language ..I'm going to pull up to a light with all that rumble and all that jumble and get smoked by someone drinking a latte ..no no no no I'll be the one drinking the latte from now on
Tesla does not have dealerships because many State's laws would not allow them to run their own dealership/service. Really it's a positive! You pay the price you see. Tesla's goal is to make a vehicle so good it'll only required scheduled maintenance which can be done anywhere by a Tesla Ranger Tech. VW has a big problem with dealerships only offering their ID3/ID4 to people ~16% of the time because they know EV's hardly break down and that's how dealerships make most of their money.
First time viewer. Long time Tesla driver. Enjoyed your awakening. But, you need to spend time on a road trip to see that range anxiety is not a real worry. There are Superchargers and Destination chargers everywhere. I've been from Canada to Mexico with no problems. On my second Tesla in 6yrs.
Visceral feel = noise if you enjoy that. It does take getting used to knowing your speed without noise. I've found I'm always going faster than I thought.
The vehicle has enough range for you to align meal breaks with charging. Very surprised you dont know about Tesla Service Centers. The troubles start when the vehicle is out of warranty. No DIY, no 3rd party repairs, it gets expensive and it sucks. High mileage Model S owner here. Love the car. BTW: All this V8 rumble, roar and vibration feedback becomes just unwanted noise after a while. I know people buying a Tesla but keeping the Beamer, Merc, Audi.....because of The Love.....but after a year max. the ICE car is gone. You just never go back.
Zero issues having mine serviced. Tons and tons and tons of service centers all over the place. Same goes for collision centers. Fabulous experience. I smashed mine once and it took 30 days to get the car back... also took 30 days to get the parts in stock. Good as new now. The real issues was having to drive a Jeep Cherokee and Nissan Rogue in the meantime... made me realize just how firmly attached I am to this car. Screw ICE!
I guess the Mustang Mache was made for you. Love to know how you get on with that and the 3rd party charging. The servicing for Tesla comes to you. Tesla takes the view that if they can make the cars very reliable, then you never need service.
As for charging on a road trip, I drove from California to Florida and back in summer 2019. I was never waiting on the car to finish charging. People don’t realize how often they stop when traveling. By the time I was done doing whatever I needed to do at a stop, the car was ready to go. Sure, you will want to only charge at a Supercharger location, but most people pick when and where they stop for gas in order to maximize trip convenience. Never having to go to a gas station is one of the most appreciated aspects of owning a Tesla.
It seems reasonable to me, based on how Tesla operates, that the number of Tesla service centers will not be anywhere as high as, for example, the auto dealership network that is currently existing. Even for one brand. The amount of square footage of building space and or shop space for Tesla vehicles is simply not required because of how Tesla works being quite a bit different from how other traditional OEMs and dealerships work. Have you heard of the Tesla rangers? A major focus of Tesla service, when there is some, is to send a vehicle with a Tesla repair technician in it to the location of the vehicle that needs to be repaired, as soon as possible, and for as little time as possible, and for no intrusion or inconvenience to the vehicle owner. Basically, they will meet you where you are and everything is contactless: payment, etcetera, with or without COVID-19. The vast majority of issues with a Tesla vehicles can be repaired remotely over the internet with software but if a hardware problem is needing to be addressed then they will try to send a ranger out versus you having to bring the car into the service center. It still does happen that vehicles have to go into a Tesla service center but it is much less frequently than what you are used to based on a lifetime of traditional vehicle ownership. One of the reasons for this is because Tesla has declared that their service centers will never be a profit center for the business. That is consistent with the goal of the best part being no part and the best maintenance being no maintenance. It forces them / allows them to build better vehicles, they don't require servicing nearly as often, so it is in their interest to make a better vehicle because sending a ranger out to wherever your Tesla is cost them a lot more than it would for you to have to drive a vehicle into a dealership somewhere.
Last I heard an on site service can cost up to 1500 just for the visit depending on the area you live in and sometimes takes months on the schedule to get there. Also parts for a Tesla are not anywhere near cheap. This is clearly evident by the volume of cars in salvage auctions totaled for things that would easily be fixable on a Chevy or a Ford. Simple body damage that even a novice could do.
@@fortheloveofcarz I guess I don't know all of the stories of all of the times that a Tesla ranger has been sent out to a particular vehicle. The overarching idea behind that is to make it convenient for people and a coma especially if the vehicle is under warranty, I don't think costs anything. It may be the case that the particular part or what not that you are referencing was not covered under warranty / on an older vehicle or something and that's why it cost money. I have never gotten the impression that the Tesla ranger service costs anything. Let me ask my local Tesla forum and see what they have to say.
@@fortheloveofcarz looks like I am learning something today. I have had two replies in my Tesla owners club Facebook forum so far. Sounds like if the vehicle is under warranty the ranger service is complimentary. If it is under the extended warranty it is somewhere between no cost to to come out and then $150 - $195/hr for their time and the parts are covered if applicable u der the extended warranty. If the extended warranty has lapsed it's $150for them to make the trip, plus an hourly rate, plus parts; I think. But hey, if you can spend $40 - $60+K on a car, and need a service visit a few times over a couple hundred thousand miles, the cost is background noise, and the convenience is very high. I suppose it depends on part upon how much your time it worth and weather or not it is more convenient for you to drive to a service center, or pay the $. At least with Tesla it's an option. Rhetorically: when's the last time BMW drove a tech to your driveway, fixed your car under warranty, and you didn't have to lift a finger?
Tesla is big business. Of course is is. Ford and GM aren’t Mom and Pop outfits either. 😂😂 Nice, honest review. Really enjoyed it. I think you can be fans of both.
Lol. I have been doing this for a long time on youtube with multiple successful channels. :-) I just decided to do something about my passion for cars. Thanks for the compliment. I think it will get better soon.
@@fortheloveofcarz ah, good luck then. I saw some more of your videos and I've traded a 2015 mustang gt for a model 3 performance myself. I'll be getting mine this March.
@@turtley8883 because when you let off the accelerator completely, the electric motor switches to a generator and both charges the car a little it also slows the car down just like your brakes do. If I drive normally, I only need to hit the brakes to stop when I’m maybe 20 ft from a stoplight and by then I’m only going maybe 5-10 mph
Until i bought my 3, i had only owned light-weight rear wheel drive sports cars. I can't go back to a gas engine now. I love the convenience, i love the quiet, i love how smooth and effortless everything feels with an EV. I might still like the sound of a v8 or a v10, and i might like the connected feel of a manual transmission, but i now realize i don't miss those things all that much...
Rumble driving experience is nice for short hop and drivers enthusiasts. But for commuting, long distance driving, road trip it's better electric quiet, I get less tired, less stressed. The rumble and NVH does wear you out in the long run.
I experienced a 5kph to 70kph acceleration in a stealth performance model 3 a year ago. It made me giggle and my eyeballs felt like they were flattening. Lovit!
Hey there are aftermarket kits that add pretty realistic engine sounds if that is what you are looking for while driving... Two there are Service Centers in all major Metro Areas, but I had a couple of minor issues and they simply came to my house to perform the service and wow, was it convenient...And third you can purchase a Standard Range Model 3 that has very similar performance for $38,000... I have had my Model Y for 8 months and absolutely LOVE it...
I think the silence makes the acceleration feel even more extreme. I saw a video where a police department (somewhere in CA, dont remember exactly where) had tried out a Tesla as a police cruiser (it did very well). The really (to me) interesting part was that they were also studying the officers; and they learned that when the Tesla cop got into a high speed pursuit, his stress level was vastly lower than in a similar pursuit in a traditional balls-to-the-wall, engine screaming to redline at each shift, gas cruiser pursuit. "Im back in the Mustang..." and miss the acceleration. I get you. I had a 250cc motorcycle (a long time ago). I really enjoyed riding it. But then I made the mistake of test driving a 650 while I was with a buddy at the shop. The acceleration was quite a bit better than the 5.0 mustang of the day. it was fantastic. Then I got back on the 250 to ride home. I honestly thought something had broken on my 250, It wasnt going at all. Then I realized, it was the same acceleration as it had before; it was ME that had changed. (Traded it in on the 650 - and learned not to take gratuitous test drives!)
I literally just sold my highly tuned Mustang after putting so much time and love into it after test driving a performance 3. All that work and wrenching and beautiful rumble were no match for the Teslas instant shotgun acceleration and comfort on long trips. Its like man, all that noise and shaking didn't translate into anything but a higher gas bill and more frequent oil changes and it still couldn't touch the Tesla. Ill see how it goes after a year, but after skipping my first Jiffy Lube visit, its getting harder and harder to look back. So far so good!
@@silverdc5 Sold my shadow black Bullitt privately for 65k (upgraded Recaros, electronic assist SC, TC on board, tons of Mopar, blue leds throughout and blue anodized under hood parts) pumped an extra 79hp out of it (not dyno verified but once)
I went form a Hellcat to a Model Y Tesla and I love it. What I would say is the best scenario is to have an ICE vehicle for longer trips and an EV for around where you live. We also have a Ram 3500 with the Cummins diesel for longer trips and this is an ideal set up for us. I love Tesla and will have a hard time going with someone other than them as far as an EV is concerned.
I'm owning a Model 3 since 12 month and I love it. I made 40.000km in 1 year. But I also agree with you that missing sound and gear changes disconnect you a little from your car. So, from time to time I really enjoy to drive my Porsche 911 with manual gearbox to get this connection back :-). Nice video and good summary. Greetings from Germany.
I rebuilt my first car's engine, down to the block. That roar of the engine did connect me to the car and I didn't even listen to the radio because I wanted to hear the engine. When I heard others roar; my auto thought was "Wow what a cool powerful car" But after driving a Tesla model 3 Base model, I quickly changed my perception of the roar. Now my auto thought when I hear it is "Here comes a slow car". Even the base model will beat 90% of the cars you pull up next to on the road. In about two years there were only two times that I took off from a stoplight with intentions of getting in front of the car beside me and was not able to. I can't imagine how powerful the performance model must be.
What an honest review. This is all what is needed, open minded people who try out new things and give them a chance. I hate this never ending disussion about why only gas cars are real cars or why electric cars are better in every way. Both exists, at least at the moment, why not try out something new and appreciate the positives about both sides? Teslas are amazing and clearly the future of driving, but these ICE cars will stay, at least for some fun, and it's good so.
21:45 - range anxiety is a real thing. Think of it this way: while waiting for a vehicle to charge, rather than gas up, if somebody was standing outside of your window and every minute you are charging the vehicle they were handing you a dollar, How long would you want to stay? just a little thought exercise to try to put it in perspective. That's why I was hoping you had the vehicle for a longer so you could do some road trips. it's true that in some cases you will be spending 45 minutes charging but the majority of cases, especially as time goes on and test the continues to improve their infrastructure, you're more likely to spend 15 to 20 minutes charging. If you combine your charging stops we're eating / bathroom / leg stretching breaks then people often run into the problem of wanting to stay longer so they can finish watching their Netflix on the screen or playing video games with their family on the screen or finish eating their lunch before they start driving again. It has been interesting to watch the Tessa community develop over the last decade or so and interesting to see how people used to complain about having to charge for an hour or more in some cases but they would justify that because they would stop for a lunch and sit down at a restaurant and eat their meal and now those same people are complaining because they've barely gotten their food when their car is done charging because the infrastructure has improved so much over the last 5 years or so. It will continue to improve over the next 5 years and pretty soon it will be done to a matter of seconds of difference between gassing up and charging up. The data shows that 89% of charging for people, on average, is done at home and in your garage or parking lot or place of work so the amount of times that you'll be having to wait for charging are pretty small to begin with.
95% of all passenger trips are less than 30 miles. And there is no place in the continental US today that you cannot reach on their super charger network. And btw? 98% of all EV cars today are charged at home.
Absolutely agree on the sound. I had an F150 2.7L Ecoboost, which was fantastic. But now have a RAM Rebel Hemi, which is honestly slower, but the sound and fury it makes (especially with aftermarket muffler), gives it a sense of occasion that my 2.7L TT didn't. The sound is part of the driving experience.
Thanks for I thought a decently fair and honest review, from an outsider/non-EV customer perspective. You definitely got some of the feel for the different (and joyful) EV and Tesla driving experience, and judged it fairly I think from an outside perspective- trust me, it will grow on you! I think it is important to have these kind of outside perspectives for folks unfamiliar with EVs, or Tesla, as it really is a different overall experience- better, I think in many ways, but does take a bit of getting used to, like any change. So thank you for providing that, just try to avoid making offhand comments that might not be fully accurate or understood. I thought you actually seemed pretty knowledgeable about the Tesla UI and features (eg battery pre-conditioning on way to SuperCharger), though as noted in many comments, you could clarify your comments about lack of service centers (they exist, just maybe not obvious/everywhere, and more importantly, there isn't really need for much scheduled maintenance! Most non-EV folks won't really understand that), and slow (unnecessary) charging above 70% on roadtrips- and note that 80-90% of most drivers will charge overnight at home (if they have plugs), so it's no loss of time. I'm glad you showed how easy and fast it was to find & do a supercharge, though could have shown the onscreen GPS nav will automatically find & plan all charge stops for you, and how long they might take (although car nav tends to make fewer, longer stops..) This really helps folks reduce range anxiety; you could also show the Energy app & trip tab (which is VERY accurate, but also has Real vs Projected, in case folks get worried). Other websites/apps can help folks check out and plan roadtrips themselves, and see how EVs especially Tesla do... faster and cheaper than you think, as noted, typically it's 10-20minute stops every 1-2hrs, which is good for driver breaks... and AutoPilot makes it SO much nicer!! abetterrouteplanner.com/ Hope you get a chance to test drive other EVs to compare, like Ford Mustang MachE, especially compared to yours! At least it has some (fake) noise :) I really hope Ford has a big success with it, and gets other makers to produce more & better (and cheaper!) EVs. Thanks! PS for others who want to test for themselves, info about touchless ~30min testdrives from Tesla, or, you can rent for a day on Turo (I assume this is what you did?) www.tesla.com/support/test-drive
Lack of ignition noise or tick over at rest was the first thing I noticed when I got my model S seven years ago. These days of course you can get vehicles with added fake engine noises (see BMW i4 or Porsche taycan) And, as you found out - switch back to ICE and it feels like you are driving an antique. Which is great if you are into classic cars, I guess, but otherwise just feels old
I've had my M3 for three years and I feel the opposite as you. I love the lack of sound. I feel like when I get in my truck I have stepped back in time 20 years. The slow response, shifting of gears and all is just so yesteryear to me.
Really good video with a lot of good points. I think you have the wrong impression about charging. No one charges for 45 minutes at a time on a trip unless you stop and eat and it takes you that long to eat. It's a series of 15-20 minute stops every ~200 miles or so. The limited stop options is a real thing for sure. Sounds like a great followup video is a road trip in a Tesla!
I took an 1100 mile road trip in one day in this model 3. You can see that video here: ua-cam.com/video/3C4spQW6vvI/v-deo.html
Having had a Tesla for more than a year I really don’t miss gear changes, rumbling engines, the smell of gas. So happy to have moved the electricity instead of gas or diesel.
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yes i am also gas biased hate the smell now never noticed it before
Just wait for the new improved whoopee cushions with gas odor included.
The bad smell of gasoline cars is what actually surprised me the most after driving electric for a while now. Never thought about it earlier before..
@@sebastianasam7869 Good prank is to stash a petrol soaked rag somewhere on an EV where it won't easily be discovered....works wonders for DAYS.
I have to agree. I can't see myself ever buying another gas powered vehicle.
I use the brakes once a month to check they’re still there.
LMAO
Lol prob joking but you should use it more than that others it might get gunked/seized
@@RossMKF1 Unfortunately it is not that easy, you need to break really hard in order for them to engage, and it's barely used during normal driving situations. The only 2 non emergency situations that comes to mind is hard braking coming off of a highway, or low speeds, where the recouperative breaks are not as effective.
I actually still use the pedal brake as a force of habit. Basically is just to rest my right foot, or just to make sure the car is stopped.
What sad is the majority of people have no idea what you're talking about. they probably think you're saying you're too cool to slow down. 🤣
My V8 Camaro is sitting next to my Tesla Model 3 collecting dust. The days of American muscle are over. The age of American Electric is here.
People really hate on tesla for no reason they gotta accept the fact that it’s the future .🤷🏽♀️
I still drive my V6 Camaro...while wishing I had a Tesla.
Ehh BEVs are are basically muscle cars. Heavy, Straight line speed and lots of grunt / torque. Sad no one has made a proper coupe 2 door fun car. It's still American Muscle just using Electricity. The closest thing is the e-Tron GT.
@@Neojhun Tesla started with a fun car....
Suffice it to say, that V8 Camaro is eating Tesla's silent and sterile dust.
When I hear him talking about missing the roar of the engine, I understand completely, but what also comes to mind is someone explaining how they miss the feeling of a rotary dial phone.
100%
Actually the thumbnail made me hope to see a well-known senior driver come quite close to the speed of light with the car, grumble about the sound and that you have to pay extra, to have a rotary dial phone installed into the console ;)
Rotary dial phones still have the best sound IMO.
..hauling in water from the crick. on your way back from the outhouse. with some wood for the fireplace.
My radio is usually cranked so it makes no difference to me, model 3 Performance for the win 😎
I hate the roar of the engine and when people have those exhaust that make so much damn noise for no reason.
There it is: that Tesla smile!
Tesla have service centres already as well as the mobile technicians. They can also be repaired at a lot of body shops if they have approval (high voltages require training I think).
As for Tesla being big business and they are just after your money you are partly correct. Elon had a vision of improving driving whilst removing the need to burn oil.
not all states have service centers. We have to go to another state just to buy one. Forget about a body shop nearby
@@philipa5568 blame your state and car dealership assocation for that it cheaper for Tesla to be in your state only reason there not is the above.
Tesla keeps improving the quality of their cars and decreasing prices at the same time. Tesla has no problems selling all the cars they make. That leaves me wondering how you figure that Tesla is "just after your money".
Oh, and do read Tesla's mission statement. Tesla is after climate change. Making the world's best cars in order to entice people out of fossil fuel cars is part of the solution.
@@bobwallace9753 the main problem is the fudest have convinced many that Elon is a lair so the mission statement is just window dressing
@@alanrickett2537 I think the FUD flood has crested and levels are rapidly falling. All the "Tesla is bankwupt" stuff will no longer fly.
"Tesla’s (original) mission statement was “to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable transport.” However, in mid-2016, under Elon Musk’s leadership, the company changed the corporate mission to “to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy.” This new statement indicates a slight but significant shift in the company’s business, to address market opportunities for renewable energy. In a way, the new corporate mission recognizes the relevance of the firm’s batteries and related energy storage products in markets in addition to the electric vehicle market. Tesla Inc.’s mission statement has the following notable components:"
I'd argue with the "slight" claim. Storage and solar are ramping up very rapidly. A year from now we're probably going to be looking at Tesla as the world's most important battery manufacturer and not very long after that they may be the world's largest battery manufacturer. Tesla solar should regain the number one position that Solar City had at its peak and rush on past.
Anyone who can't look at what Tesla has already done and is in the process of accomplishing and see how it locks in with the mission statement is as blinded to reality as one of those Qistas.
The last year has, I think, see a great wave of resignation from the Elon's a Liar army. Desertions have shrunk the ranks down to a few assorted cranks who don't have much influence except, perhaps, with their senile parents.
Tesla does have service centers. They simply don’t have dealerships. They have showrooms at the service centers. They also have convenient mobile service that can fix many things in your driveway.
If you have one close to you. Many don’t. Mine is well over an hour away. I can service my Ford at 5 locations within 10 minutes of my house.
Over 80% of service calls are Mobil service calls. There is significantly less maintenance for an EV. In 60,000 miles of my EV I have filled the washer fluid, changed an air filter, and new tires, that's it. No service is the best service.
@@fortheloveofcarz There are many areas in which Tesla would love to open more physical locations but are limited from doing so by state law. Take your state of Pennsylvania. Tesla is limited to a maximum of 5 total owned stores and most of the service centers have a “store” side attached that would be analogous to a traditional dealer location. Tesla already has four of these; two in and around Philadelphia and two in and around Pittsburgh. If they want to add locations to sell cars, they have to pick spots that will give them the greatest impact, but unlike any other because they direct sell, they are limited by state law to only one additional location in your state. Other car manufacturers are limited only by their dealer agreements that define each dealer’s territory.
Tesla has opted to eschew a dealer network for a number of reasons, but certainly toward the top of the list is that a traditional auto dealer business model (where at least half of the profit comes from servicing) will not work for EVs in general and Tesla in particular, as EVs do not have nearly the same level of servicing requirements seen in a typical ICE vehicle. Right or wrong, Tesla has elected a different path to get their cars in the hands of the end consumer than is the norm, but your state government, and many others as well, (at the behest of the auto dealers associations) are actively inhibiting Tesla from improving their ability to sell and service their vehicles with protectionist laws that seek to protect the incumbent dealers.
Some of the “blame” for limited servicing options boils down to being a young company that does not yet have mature network in place, some of it comes down to Tesla’s expansion choices, but a non-insignificant portion falls on state governments looking to protect existing auto dealers.
FYI- in 2-1/2 years and 41,000 miles I’ve only replaced the wiper blades, added wiper fluid, and jus replaced the tires. That’s it. That’s the extent of servicing my car has needed. Tesla has been out twice to perform a couple of minor service bulletins that were done in my driveway in about 10 minutes each.
@@fortheloveofcarz They come to your house. Does Ford? NO
@@fortheloveofcarz The new Model S zero-to-60-mph acceleration time of 1.99 seconds, a quarter-mile time of 9.3 seconds, and a top speed of 200 mph for the $121,190 also 520+ mile range....
2 years 50k miles no service issues on my 19 m3.
Most of your comments/observations are subjective, for example: that the sound, rumble and vibration from an internal combustion engine is a personal preference. With regards to service and charging, your knowledge of Tesla is lacking. One of the advantages of a Tesla or any electric car is that there is little to no maintenance required. If you need to have service, the appointments are made through the app and in some cases, depending on the work that is needed Tesla will decide to send a mobile service car to your home or work place to carry out the repair. Full disclosure, I haven't had to pay for any repairs so far as my Model 3 is still under warranty. In two and a half years of ownership, for maintenance I have only spent about $100 CAD ($78.30 USD) on wiper blades and cabin air filters. I have had to replace the tires that it was equipped with from the factory, which I elected to upgrade to Michelin Sport 4s, which cost $1800 CAD ($1400 USD). I was delinquent in rotating my tires so the rear tires wore out prematurely.
I have driven across the North American continent and not once did I feel range anxiety. Also, you do not need to stop for 45 minutes to charge every time you stop. First, you do not empty the battery and then refill it to full, like most people do with ICE vehicles. It is best to charge to 80-90% at home and only discharge to 20% for local driving. On long road trips you will typically charge to 100% and afterwards it is more efficient use of time to charge to 70% at a supercharger, which in most cases takes only 15-20 minutes and then move on, in that time you can get out and take a bathroom break and grab a coffee. If you do need to charge for longer, then plan that around stopping for lunch or dinner. In most cases the car is done charging before you finish your meal. Battery Electric Vehicles are not as inconvenient as people think, BEVs offer advantages over ICE in the overall cost to own and operate not to mention some improvements to the impact on the environment. BEVs will not save the world, but it is an important step in the right direction, when it comes to carbon emission reduction.
You should do a video reviewing the Ford Mach-E next.
Too big
Not gonna read 🤣
Thks for the information
The service network is great. Why do you think there is no service. Seems like you need to do a little research.
@@troyclayton7289 I am not a nativ English speaker and I am just 17 but I thought thinking someone for shering info isn't a hard thing.
Actually Tesla doesn’t do any marketing at all. They for a bunch of reason are unlike a lot of other “big business” out there
The don’t advertise but they do marketing. They don’t pay for that but still they do.
And if they can , they will low price. What’s company do that?
Tesla:
- does not pay for marketing, lacks a marketing department
- has the best marketing of any car company ever by an incredibly huge margin. They even have a Tesla on orbit around the Sun!
Preach Zander preach!
@@ILIKKA All the News channels that get paid for airing those Big Business ICE car company commercials, and the cheesy local dealership spots, broadcast every milestone Tesla makes - so one could argue the competition partially pays for Tesla's marketing. The competition (including Fiat Chrysler, and Honda) have paid Tesla hundreds of millions for Zero Emission Vehicle credits, which in turn pays for Tesla's global expansion. that's a win-win!
Charging while on a roadtrip is much faster than your claimed 45 minutes. try it. you may like those breaks too. its charged up every morning too because you can“fill it up“ at your house
Being on the road does not magically change how fast a supercharger will charge your car. It is completely dependent on how much charge you have before you plug it in and the amount you charge it to. This dictates how long it takes to charge.
@@fortheloveofcarz Yes, thats true. But what is the point of charging slow above 75% SoC when the battery is already nearly full and you are set to go? It's like me saying you need an oilchange in the middle of your Mustang roadtrip...
@@fortheloveofcarz If you charge to 100% then yeah, it’ll take a while. It’s better to charge enough to get to your next charger (with a small buffer) which is a lot quicker. I drove down through Denmark last year on the way to Berlin and only charged enough to get to the next charger as it was late at night. Each 45 minute drive was followed by a 10 minute charge whilst I got coffee and used the loo at the services.
The other thing to point out is that your first stop after starting your trip with a full charge is typically 5 hours after so, after that 5 hours of driving (which really is a lot), most people want to get something to eat, use the rest room, etc. Then, after that first "longer" stop, you can make shorter stops on subsequent legs of the trip to maximize the charge speed at lower states of charge.
@@lemongavine I can’t drive 5 hours without the need to stop! I need coffee which means I need to wee and repeat. Not to mention the need to stretch my legs to wake up after sitting for 2-3 hours.
Most people seem to drive to get to their destination with comfort breaks as required including burger and fries for a quick munch on the way if required. I’ve not heard of many people who stop for a full meal lasting an hour when they could be on the road again.
What I like about EV power vs muscle car power is that you can use the EV power waaay more often because you don't draw attention with the noise. It's just way more usable.
Tesla is so after your money that they keep lowering the price of their vehicles while adding new things and softwares...
They lower the price so people can actually afford them 💀
@@nickiismymother4624 They lower prices in order to broaden their market. It's something like you said, but different. Within two years Tesla should start selling a $25k EV that will open the market wide open.
And if that isn't enough Tesla is two or a bit more away from starting a robotaxi service which should make being driven around very, very affordable. Prices should settle in around $0.25/mile. That's going to give Tesla access to the whole thinig.
@@bobwallace9753 they have a “taxi service” ready to go, they’re just waiting on a couple more tweaks with autopilot and the go head from the government. The “taxi service” is what they call Ride Share. Lots of cool things coming within the next 2 years.
@@zaxio5336 Don't think you're correct. Last I heard Tesla figures they need roughly a year of large scale training for their FSD system. That means releasing FSD beta to all/most Tesla owners who have purchased FSD and running components of FSD in shadow mode on other (post Oct, 2016) Teslas.
After a year finding and solving corner cases Tesla estimates it will take about a year to gather enough data to allow agencies to start permitting driverless operation.
Maybe Tesla is sandbagging and it will be a bit sooner or they could run into a difficult corner case and it could take a bit more.
Autopilot is not a full self driving system. It's a driver assist program and lacks many components needed for driverless operation and robotaxi services.
To your point, my new 2016 Model S P100D Ludicrous listed for $160,900 with all options. It does 0-60 in 2.4 seconds and has a range of 315 miles. The new Plaid+ Model S will do 0-60 in 1.9 (?) seconds, have a range of 520+ miles, and will be able to take advantage of V3 Superchargers to cut charging times by 30%. Total List Price with all options?: $149,990. Tesla keeps their margins in the 20%-25% range and passes any additional savings they achieve through innovation to customers. Even for their less expensive models. And they still roll out OTA updates free of charge.
“Apparently Tesla doesn’t have a dealership/service department network.”
Wrong. This is the kind of misinformation that you get when lack of research prior to posting a product review occurs.
Only partly wrong they do not have a dealership network but they do have a service network. Thank goodness too. I hate stealerships.
@@Coltn3125 what is a stealership? A combined service center and sales. Tesla debundles these. There are service centers and Tesla "showrooms" which are similar to a stealership sales service. The difference is it's not he Tesla's rep's job to jack you for as much product or price as possible. A Tesla car buying experience doesn't have to take 3 hours of negotiating and "let me talk to the manager" breaks. I've seen the various Models at a showroom and through there test driven each Tesla model. While one can buy a Tesla online (something you can't do with other cars) we bought our first Tesla with the "help" of a sales rep at the store.
As to service there are at least three within 50 miles of me (probably less than 30 miles) and we live "in the sticks." I use the app to schedule service and if they determine a mobile tech can't handlemit, they schedule me for my chosen local service center.
@@HarveyPayne There is a huge difference between a dealership and a showroom. A Tesla showroom is not there to sell you the vehicle but to help you better understand the car and have a good customer experience. A dealership is not built for the customer but to sell and get as much money out of a customer. This is why if you poll people you will find that 99 of a 100 people hate or avoid a dealership.
@@Coltn3125 I totally agree. I don't feel like I need to take a shower after leaving a Tesla showroom. The same is not true for most stealerships I've been in. What I was trying to say is the showroom and service center together provide the good features and services that are provided by the typical stealership. The video was saying not having dealership was a negative. My point was this negative didn't exist. Now there are some states that have strong auto stealership lobbies that have successfully prevented (so far) Tesla from doing good work in that state. To those states I say, shame on you.
@@HarveyPayne 100% agree.
In an accident this car will save your life compared to any other car on earth. My kids love me to lose me in an accident...no way, good enough reason to buy Tesla.
the Wham Bam Tesla Cam channel further demonstrates your point! I am not affiliated with the channel - just recently stumbled upon it, and afterward my wife said we will replace our cars with Teslas and our little one's first car will only be a Tesla
More than a few fire departments and police officers could not understand how that Tesla could survive such a crash (with the occupant injured free most of the time) when the other car(s) are wrecked beyond recognition!
@@radicalrick9587 lol and they use an argument that batteries are very bad for fires. But not thinking how many fires happen on a daily basis for ICE cars.
My first video watched on this channel. How is it possible this has this level of:
camera work,
drone work,
microphone - audio,
Video editing,
script,
and the channel only has 700 subscribers?
I've been doing UA-cam for a long time. :-) I have access to a lot of cool tools. This channel is a fun passion project. I wuld love for it to become my Main thing because cars are my passion, but I cant spend too much time on it yet. :-) It will grow, it just takes time.
That’s what the world is supposed to sound like, quite.
"quiet".
@@Dev1ner he fell off the short bus give him time 💀
Keep the mustang , buy a Tesla , take the ford out once a month to remind yourself of why you brought the Tesla . Sell the mustang in ten years to a museum so people can see just how far we have come in that short period . Only 112 years ago if this guy was around he would be comparing a horse to a model T and deciding whether to upgrade or not . Ice is dead , time to move on .
10 years the mustang will be worthless. They are not a rare car and made in the 100 thousands. 50 years it may be worth something. Buying a gas car today is just throwing money away. They will be all but worthless in the next 6 years.
Sorry, but he would have compared the Model T to a Baker Electric, and the electric would come up wanting. As EVs do now.
As to the long term value of a piece of tech gear...tell me again how much a 1st gen iPhone is worth? Now how much is a landline dial phone worth...seeing as how it, unlike the first iPhone, STILL WORKS?
@@davefroman4700 You mean like 5 year old EVs are now?
@@billcichoke2534, you’re comparing a smartphone to an EV? You do know the difference in battery tech and management, right?
begins. Avg, ICE car’s life is 250,000 miles. Tesla batteries are expected to last between 500,000-800,000 miles. Your phones battery last 2 yrs before degradation begins.
@@Handlethis342 Uh, yes, I am.
Just like any other tech gear, current electric vehicles can only be software upgraded so far, before different hardware is needed. And, like touchscreen phones and computers, the only way to get that, is to buy a newer car. EXAMPLE: 1st gen Roadster, Model S.
The current usage pattern of not staying with the same vehicle for over 4 years, means all those numbers you mentioned will be pointless. Just like newer cellular standards, older cars will be incompatible with newer charging standards, and risk being cut off from charging capability...see Tesla.
Obsolescence...not a huge issue with ICEVs. Pretty big problem for tech items, including EVs since 2005.
You never wait 40 minutes to charge a model 3. 20 would be a lot.
Never is absolute, and I only used a home charger on a normal outlet. So obviously this wouldn’t apply to anyone who does the same.
@@taylor92493 You don't have at least a dryer plug nearby? A standard 120v plug is painfully slow. 20 minutes at a super charger should get you about 200 miles of range. Should be enough for most daily driving activity.
Just did a 730 mile road trip with my dual motor Model 3. It was my first big road trip. Since I had range anxiety I ended up stopping at every supercharger (they were generally between 125-180 miles apart), but I never charged more than 25 min (usually only needed 15-20min). The most surprising thing is that I made the trip in a day. I haven't been able to do that for last 10 years anymore, as it was too exhausting (I'm getting old). The stops for supercharging plus the autopilot removed a lot of the exhaustion, as did the very comfortable seat.
My Model Y sometimes takes 35 minutes to charge from 80 miles back up to 280, and if I go full charge it takes 45-50 minutes. But not complaining Love the car.
@@ymcpa73 Was my in-laws tesla. No need to try and be helpful. And we never needed any faster charging, we did not put that many miles on it.
Obviously you didn’t research the availability of the service center and are not aware of the mobile services available.
Have a Tesla for roughly 2 months now and must say ... Dont miss gas stations at all. Ride is also really smooth and autopilot makes driving so relaxing. Cant wait for FSD Beta here.
After the transition to EVs, people will look strangely at the past and not comprehend why we were so slow at adopting EVs.
Yup lol. Pretty much how everyone felt when we made the transition from horses to ICE.
+1
Already happened to my family. We have 2 EV and buying a 3rd next year.
I definitely don't miss saying "Fill er up on Pump 1"
you probably haven't said that in years, instead you would be standing outside freezing your ass off doing it yourself 🤣
People don't talk about the autopilot much, but is extremely life changing feature in Telsa. If you commute to work everyday and at the end of the day you are driving home, you are tired and sleepy. Having the Tesla drives you on a busy and jam commute home is alot more safer than you think. You have no idea how many times I almost I got into an accident when I am driving home at the end of the day because I was so tired.
I own a few Teslas. Best cars ever.
If you miss the model 3 acceleration imagine a performance version of the model S it’s a HUGE difference, puts your stomach in the trunk
When the top performing S starts selling it will be the fastest production car. Period.
@@bobwallace9753 and then There will Be the Roadster soon.
He got some of the details wrong but I'll forgive him. lol. Nice video man.
Thanks
@@fortheloveofcarz Ella Roberta Kissi-Debrah 9 years old died in 2013 after 27 visits to hospitals in three years due to asthma attacks. On 16 December 2020, the London Inner South Coroner's Court concluded its two-week inquest, led by coroner Philip Barlow concerning the death of nine-year-old Ella Roberta Adoo Kissi-Debrah in February 2013. The coroner ruled that air pollution was a contributory factor in Ella's death as a consequence of acute respiratory failure...... Still like your ICE car ???
@@kylereese4822 You must be real fun at parties.....
Growing up poor in the 70s, coming to a stop quiet is a stomach dropping event where you hope the engine was able to start before the lights turned green. That feeling came back to me about a decade ago when I bought an Altima Hybrid. I never got used to the feeling before I had to dump the car at a big discount to qualify for a loan at the bottom of the housing market. Hoping to get full self driving in the future when I'm too old to drive safely.
Why is a Tesla hater explaining the car to me? We have two. Just tell me if your mind was changed and why! :D For the 'hater experience' you should focus on what's different (without explaining the basics) and really focus on that first pedal mash, which is not the 'gas' but the accelerator. I know, old habits die hard.
Another tip, always say which trim you're driving. It's not just Model 3, it's Model 3 Performance, LR AWD, or base model. That's important info.
when you mentioned switching back to your Mustang that made laugh. I remember my Tesla test drives, back to back Model Y the a Model 3. When I left in my Yukon, all I could think was a total dog the Yukon was.
Yeah it was weird.
God at the end when he was back in his Mustang. It just sounded so old fashioned compared to a Tesla.
I don't miss it at all.
Great point by mentioning it seems a bit more attached to the road, and the whole driving experience is better than you would think, just by being a simplistic car. Love the video!
Yup- the silence and minimalist experience IS very different, but, not so much in a negative way- it definitely grows on you, even without the acceleration "Tesla grin" :) Most importantly: the smooth silence and no vibration, plus AutoPilot, REALLY shines for road trips- much less driver fatigue, you are MUCH more relaxed. I call it "relaxing exhiliration"... :)
I wish he had tried out the audio system, as it is phenomenal, and... the quality really shines, when you have no engine noise.
I literally sometimes go sit in my car in garage, turn on good-source MP3 music or even UA-cam videos, sit in the comfy heated seats and relax, for some "car therapy"... it's the new man cave, as my wife says :)
You have a lot to learn about Tesla.
That is to be expected given his background and ONE DAY of driving it.
@@Mrbfgray ... but he DOES seem to be quite open0-minded about Tesla..
And he DID get. That “TESLA SMILE” a time or two.😎
@@ernestgalvan9037 Indeed and it's not healthy for us fanboys to feed ourselves a steady diet of adulation when NO car is for everyone nor perfect. He also said he would miss the acceleration.
Great video, I'm a hardcore car guy too. I have a supercharged ls6 street truck and a Single turbo FD RX7 and......... a Model 3 Performance on order Haha. Cant wait to punch it all the time with out worrying about the drivetrain damage and premium gas
I think you will love it. It is a unique experience.
@@fortheloveofcarz I was hooked on the first test drive. Only car I've ever purchased new that I think is actually worth it
Physics and traction being laws, how long does a set of sticky tires last on a Tesla ? Does it eat thru them ?
I had all these questions before buying one. Almost one year into ownership now and there's no way ill ever buy a Gas car again. Appreciate the honest review,
Great Video and appreciate your willingness to give it an honest try. Some of us own Tesla just because it is a fun car to drive. Range anxiety goes away as you get to know the car. Both my cars are still under warranty and haven't paid a dime yet for any servicing. Wife's car was hit and body work was done at a local certified shop which is also a Lincoln Dealer. Beauty is nothing says you can't have a Tesla and Mustang :).
Maybe soon. :-)
As a new user , you are missing a few things which you will only pick up later.
To open the charge port, when the car is open, just poke the charge port and it will open. To close it, .... do nothing and it will close automatically if you don't plug in a charger
To start the car - and you have the phone app - do nothing - it is ready to go since the app identifies you. You only tap the card if you don't have the app set up.
I completely understand your feeling that you miss the sound of a good ICE engine. I do worry the majority of people that say this when they are used to crappy 4 cylinder engines and I don't understand how they can say they miss that; in your case I understand completely as I appreciate that a good engine has more to it.
Other people have said this, but I have had good experience at Tesla service centers, the car even knows you need to go there in the morning and navigates you there. Thank you for your video.
Thanks for the info. I appreciate a kind Tesla fan. There aren’t many. Lol
@@fortheloveofcarz I believe there are more than you think. Unfortunately, the more vocal ones who aren't willing to have an objective discussion give the rest of us a bad rap. Even if you disagree with each other, you can do so respectfully. I've only had my Model Y a few months, and I love it, but I also recognize it's not perfect, and neither is the company (or any company). That drives/inspires future innovation in my opinion.
@@nazzarenopisano652 I absolutely agree! I loved the experience.
@@nazzarenopisano652 But is it really about Tesla or just the anonymity of the internet. You can go to any comment section on any site and you will find people like this who rather insult someone they disagree with rather than just say why they disagree. You see the same stuff from people arguing for ICE cars. They will call Teslas junk or toy cars. You can fairly argue that EVs aren't completely zero net emissions if you take into account construction and disposal of the cars. You can make arguments that Teslas build quality isn't always up to par. However, anyone who fairly evaluated a Tesla and drove one will never say they are junk or toys.
@@ymcpa73 I agree. As with many subjects, those who throw out the insults or are quick to dismiss usually don't know much about the subject. It's easy to insult on the internet. It takes a bigger person to admit that maybe there are things they don't know about, the knowing of which may change things.
There are Tesla service centres all over. Use your App to request repairs or service. On the issue of engine noise, try driving fir 2/3 hrs in both and see which one get you there still relaxed and less tired
I love riding horses, the smell, the feel, sound of creaking leather, as well as the bond that develops between rider and a wonderful 1,400 pound animal, but I don't use them for daily transportation.
Horse racing is still a thing, along with trail rides, jumping competition, and carriage rides, so I'm sure ICE will be a thing for rich folk to play with in the future.
I can appreciate your sentiment. Its just the thing I'd expect from someone incapable of seeing beyond their own privilege. See believe it or now when you say ICS vehicles will be the playthings of the rich in the future it just shows how disconnected people who shill for them are.
There is literately not a single Tesla out there the average consumer could actually afford to buy, Not one. On top of that if you look at every single EV available on the market only a couple can be had for under 30K and none of them have a range over 150 miles at that price.
And they have no charging infrastructure either. So they are not affordable for the masses, and you cant actually take one on a trip over an hour long without charging, but there is no network to do so.... And that's on top of the lack of soul and un-repairabuility they have.
They COULD be the vehicle of the future, but that future is not here yet. not even close. In fact I think the promise of that inevitable future that everyone seems to think is already here will bankrupt a bunch of automakers trying to sell cars no one wants. They may be awesome, but if you can't charge them no one cares unless they are just committed to virtue signaling how environmentally committed they are. In which case they can enjoy that while it lasts, once people actually start to talk about the environmental damage of mining the battery elements ,and the child labor that goes into that as well.
@@fortheloveofcarz I train horses, not a pampered owner, drive a 26 year old Ford Ranger, and a base 2017 Volt that cost just over 20K, so don't preach here about entitlement.
@@rgeraldalexander4278 It seems there is the assumption that these cars are affordable for the average person. They aren't. I own 3 ICE cars all of which will travel and hour and return home without a fill up. If I sold them all I still couldn't afford the cheapest Tesla. For me it was the pampered rich owner comment that set me off. It will be the poor like me who will drive the ICE cars and keep them alive and the reason is simple. They are cheap and fun to drive, and actually look pretty good, or at least different.
24:37 - what if the car paid you? $10K/year, $20K/year, $30K/year? What would it be worth then?
It would have to drive itself around and pick people up while your were at work for that . . . Oh wait, in about a year it will be able to do that.
@@enoch1680 Exactly. Might still have to keep applying Elon time to that...but it will happen, and when it does, it's going to be HUGE.
The buying experience is a lot better than having to deal with sleazy lying car dealerships for sure.
Is it really? Ordering on line and waiting until... we’ll who knows.
I'd rather wait for 1 year than deal with a stealership.
I'm glad you enjoyed the driving experience and look of the car. As others noted, the negatives you raised (charging time and service) aren't true or real problems.... In the end it's just an awesome vehicle.
Serenity Now and re the missing “ exhaust noise” not everyone wants to hear you coming and going. I used to need that, no longer. It’s now “walk softly, but carry a BIG stick”.
I can’t recall the amount of times I’ve had someone scream at me to slow down in first gear, going under the speed limit. I’m looking forward to the quietness.
No kidding I can hardly wait to use a cybertruck for hunting.
A couple of things: Tesla does NOT do marketing. Their advertising budget is $0. What replaces marketing, is social media - like this video - and word of mouth recommendations. They take the hundreds of millions of dollars that ICE car manufacturers spend on advertising, and put it back into the cars and the production process (the machine that makes the machine) and continually make improvements.
I charge my car at home 99% of the time. Every time I leave my house, I have as much charge as I need. Range anxiety only ever comes into my mind, when I'm on the road, and that's where the chargers are. Yes, I need to plan my trips to go from one Supercharger to the next, but it's easy to do (see: abetterrouteplanner.com.) Almost all of the Superchargers are near something so that you can relieve yourself, or get a coffee, and most of the time by the time I do that, my car is charged to the extent that I can get to the next stop with a reserve in charge of my choosing. But, when I drive locally, I'm ALWAYS full when I leave the house - how about you?
Tesla has frequently made improvements to lower the price of manufacturing their cars, and then lowered the price to the customer. Take a look at what they are doing now with making the entire underbody of the Model Y (later with their other cars) with giant casting machines. It took a part that was made from around 80 welded parts, and they are now making that part with one casting. This will make the cars cheaper to make, stronger, and more efficient. They are moving to make the battery pack structural so that it doesn't have to be in a casing. Take a look at the history of the Model 3 and Model Y and see if they haven't lowered the price. It is a business, yes, but it's a business - especially in the car business - unlike any you've seen.
Elon has stated that the whole purpose of Tesla is to make mobility sustainable. It also manufactures solar, and battery storage. These things go together to make homes that have an energy ecosystem where the parts work together seamlessly. I personally have all 3 and I charge my car with the sun. Then, to top it off, Elon is leveraging his fortune to fund SpaceX where he's trying to give the human race a backup (going to Mars) if we totally screw up the Earth. No one else is doing that.
Being a Ford owner/driver it might change his value impression since Ford spends $3,000 in advertising for every car they sell. So in 2020 they lost money on every car they made due to that advertising. Tesla spends its money on constantly improving the manufacturing process and features. The long term cost of ownership is the biggest single advantage in true cost. Not having to inspect the brake pads for 250,000 or be down to 80% battery capacity for over 1 million miles means that even if one has a loan and pays 4-5 years it still has an effective service life of the drive train about 30-40 years longer than an ICE car and be a car that is passed down through generations.
The difference in safety from avoiding accidents is about 8 times more miles per accident than any ICE car and in the rare event of an accident, passengers are much less likely to be injured in a Tesla. Essentially, it is sort of a no brainer in all metrics of car value and utility. Then if that is not enough, the 95% of the day an owner is not using the care, within a year or two it can go off and earn $30-40,000 a year as a robotaxi.
@@stanspb763 get a tesla lol
The Tesla ranger services are complementary.
I am not sure that is true. A lot of people that have no service center nearby purchase a car because of this service. Lack of any ability to repair without a several mile drive would kill sales. Can you link where you found the information that shows it is complementary?
Two things, you don't have to charge 45 minutes to 100% on roadtrips. Do 20 minutes so you make it to your next bathroom break. You also have the option to charge at a third party provider, not only Superchargers, it the location doesn't fit nicely. Change mind! :D
His whole arguement about not hearing or feeling the engine vibrate is so silly. Get over it 😂
Everyone has an opinion...
Do you pay for the recharge?
Some are free some are paying charge. But if you have to pay for charge it will cost half as much then filling a gas car. (assuming to refill a gas car is $20)
in 2021 you are making a half an hour video explaining all the features of the Tesla?? You are reaaaally early with the video Colombus....
😂😂😂
Love those wheels and tires... can I get the specs on those? What tire size is that? What manufacture of the wheel is it?
I never saw your channel before and the first thing that I noticed was the really good drone sequences. The production qualities are very good.
Thanks. I’ve been doing this for a long time. Just decided to start a channel about my car passion.
We live hours from the closest Tesla service center. Our 3 wouldn’t work. I placed a service call on the app and they sent a flatbed and took it to Vegas for service. The problem ended up being caused by us so we had to pay for the service. Parts, labor and a 150 mile tow cost $600. It was a very painless process.
I’m just curious, what did you do? Some suspension damage from driving or? That’s the only thing I can think of how you can damage the car and not have it repaired on warranty.
@@volkhen0 we we live in the country. We parked it outside for a week in the summer without using it. It ran the ac to keep the cabin from overheating which may or may not have attracted a rodent, which chewed some wires. We needed a couple of harnesses replaced.
@@markjames2338 yep, my wife has a special device in her fiesta after previous owner who lived in a country side. It makes some high frequency noise which is not audible for humans but painful for rodents. Also there are special sprays. In my car in engine compartment I also have few toilet hangs(?), I don’t know how it’s called in English but you hang it inside bowl. The smell of it supposedly scares away rodents too.
@@volkhen0 we have the noise things now too. One in trunk and one in frunk.
Where did you get that Predator figure in the background in your home around 5:00? And how much does that cost? Thanks.
Making cars is a big business. Even for Ford! The question is: "is this a good product?"
A product is more than just the piece you buy. LOVED the car. But the more I learn about the insurance costs, and repair fiascos especially with second hand ones that I could afford, The more I’m probably out.
@@fortheloveofcarz I just bought a model Y and the insurance is cheaper than my Nissan Rogue that it replaced
@@fortheloveofcarz My insurance cost was comparable to the WRX it replaced.
@@fortheloveofcarz Cost of Tesla's keeps coming down. In 3 years time everyone will able to afford one. The truth is though that those RoboTaxi's are going to be so cheap and convenient that owning one will no longer make sense.
@@fortheloveofcarz You should price the insurance with Tesla. Their insurance is less expensive. Seems like these cars need less repairs and maintenance than an ICE car but it will still need some eventually and there can be issues there.
2019 mustang GT black on black ...24,000 mi I'm trading it in January ..when they drop the new 2024 Highlander model 3 performance I.. love the rumble I love the V8.. I love the manual.. but there's no fucking way.. excuse my language ..I'm going to pull up to a light with all that rumble and all that jumble and get smoked by someone drinking a latte ..no no no no I'll be the one drinking the latte from now on
Tesla does not have dealerships because many State's laws would not allow them to run their own dealership/service. Really it's a positive! You pay the price you see. Tesla's goal is to make a vehicle so good it'll only required scheduled maintenance which can be done anywhere by a Tesla Ranger Tech. VW has a big problem with dealerships only offering their ID3/ID4 to people ~16% of the time because they know EV's hardly break down and that's how dealerships make most of their money.
OH wow!! good video!! I just got my 2021 Tesla model 3
You will love it.
@@fortheloveofcarz I keep telling people that I went from 1950 car to 2020 car
First time viewer. Long time Tesla driver. Enjoyed your awakening. But, you need to spend time on a road trip to see that range anxiety is not a real worry. There are Superchargers and Destination chargers everywhere. I've been from Canada to Mexico with no problems. On my second Tesla in 6yrs.
Visceral feel = noise if you enjoy that. It does take getting used to knowing your speed without noise. I've found I'm always going faster than I thought.
The vehicle has enough range for you to align meal breaks with charging. Very surprised you dont know about Tesla Service Centers. The troubles start when the vehicle is out of warranty. No DIY, no 3rd party repairs, it gets expensive and it sucks. High mileage Model S owner here. Love the car. BTW: All this V8 rumble, roar and vibration feedback becomes just unwanted noise after a while. I know people buying a Tesla but keeping the Beamer, Merc, Audi.....because of The Love.....but after a year max. the ICE car is gone. You just never go back.
Zero issues having mine serviced. Tons and tons and tons of service centers all over the place. Same goes for collision centers. Fabulous experience. I smashed mine once and it took 30 days to get the car back... also took 30 days to get the parts in stock. Good as new now. The real issues was having to drive a Jeep Cherokee and Nissan Rogue in the meantime... made me realize just how firmly attached I am to this car. Screw ICE!
Yes the performance is $50,000 but there is a standard version at $38,000. So competitive to a camry.
I guess the Mustang Mache was made for you. Love to know how you get on with that and the 3rd party charging. The servicing for Tesla comes to you. Tesla takes the view that if they can make the cars very reliable, then you never need service.
I think that was about as honest as one can get. Great video!
Thanks!
As for charging on a road trip, I drove from California to Florida and back in summer 2019. I was never waiting on the car to finish charging. People don’t realize how often they stop when traveling. By the time I was done doing whatever I needed to do at a stop, the car was ready to go. Sure, you will want to only charge at a Supercharger location, but most people pick when and where they stop for gas in order to maximize trip convenience. Never having to go to a gas station is one of the most appreciated aspects of owning a Tesla.
Very well balanced review with fair criticisms and warranted praise.
It seems reasonable to me, based on how Tesla operates, that the number of Tesla service centers will not be anywhere as high as, for example, the auto dealership network that is currently existing. Even for one brand. The amount of square footage of building space and or shop space for Tesla vehicles is simply not required because of how Tesla works being quite a bit different from how other traditional OEMs and dealerships work. Have you heard of the Tesla rangers? A major focus of Tesla service, when there is some, is to send a vehicle with a Tesla repair technician in it to the location of the vehicle that needs to be repaired, as soon as possible, and for as little time as possible, and for no intrusion or inconvenience to the vehicle owner. Basically, they will meet you where you are and everything is contactless: payment, etcetera, with or without COVID-19. The vast majority of issues with a Tesla vehicles can be repaired remotely over the internet with software but if a hardware problem is needing to be addressed then they will try to send a ranger out versus you having to bring the car into the service center. It still does happen that vehicles have to go into a Tesla service center but it is much less frequently than what you are used to based on a lifetime of traditional vehicle ownership. One of the reasons for this is because Tesla has declared that their service centers will never be a profit center for the business. That is consistent with the goal of the best part being no part and the best maintenance being no maintenance. It forces them / allows them to build better vehicles, they don't require servicing nearly as often, so it is in their interest to make a better vehicle because sending a ranger out to wherever your Tesla is cost them a lot more than it would for you to have to drive a vehicle into a dealership somewhere.
Last I heard an on site service can cost up to 1500 just for the visit depending on the area you live in and sometimes takes months on the schedule to get there.
Also parts for a Tesla are not anywhere near cheap. This is clearly evident by the volume of cars in salvage auctions totaled for things that would easily be fixable on a Chevy or a Ford. Simple body damage that even a novice could do.
@@fortheloveofcarz I guess I don't know all of the stories of all of the times that a Tesla ranger has been sent out to a particular vehicle. The overarching idea behind that is to make it convenient for people and a coma especially if the vehicle is under warranty, I don't think costs anything. It may be the case that the particular part or what not that you are referencing was not covered under warranty / on an older vehicle or something and that's why it cost money. I have never gotten the impression that the Tesla ranger service costs anything. Let me ask my local Tesla forum and see what they have to say.
@@fortheloveofcarz looks like I am learning something today. I have had two replies in my Tesla owners club Facebook forum so far. Sounds like if the vehicle is under warranty the ranger service is complimentary. If it is under the extended warranty it is somewhere between no cost to to come out and then $150 - $195/hr for their time and the parts are covered if applicable u der the extended warranty. If the extended warranty has lapsed it's $150for them to make the trip, plus an hourly rate, plus parts; I think. But hey, if you can spend $40 - $60+K on a car, and need a service visit a few times over a couple hundred thousand miles, the cost is background noise, and the convenience is very high. I suppose it depends on part upon how much your time it worth and weather or not it is more convenient for you to drive to a service center, or pay the $. At least with Tesla it's an option. Rhetorically: when's the last time BMW drove a tech to your driveway, fixed your car under warranty, and you didn't have to lift a finger?
Tesla is big business. Of course is is. Ford and GM aren’t Mom and Pop outfits either. 😂😂 Nice, honest review. Really enjoyed it. I think you can be fans of both.
I certainly hope so.
Wow, a lot of production value for a small channel. Good job.
Lol. I have been doing this for a long time on youtube with multiple successful channels. :-) I just decided to do something about my passion for cars. Thanks for the compliment. I think it will get better soon.
@@fortheloveofcarz ah, good luck then. I saw some more of your videos and I've traded a 2015 mustang gt for a model 3 performance myself. I'll be getting mine this March.
Awesome. Congrats!
12:35 looks like you drive too close the the steering wheel ;-)
The funniest 'problem' I have is brake squeak. I use the brakes so little. Prob won't have to buy pads ever, just brake squeak spray
I've seen other comments like this. Why don't you need to use the break often (I've never driven one but I really want to).
@@turtley8883 because when you let off the accelerator completely, the electric motor switches to a generator and both charges the car a little it also slows the car down just like your brakes do. If I drive normally, I only need to hit the brakes to stop when I’m maybe 20 ft from a stoplight and by then I’m only going maybe 5-10 mph
@@johng5529 ok, interesting!
Appreciate such a fair review and open mind. Your negatives are all valid and are things to improve. 😊 thx
Until i bought my 3, i had only owned light-weight rear wheel drive sports cars. I can't go back to a gas engine now. I love the convenience, i love the quiet, i love how smooth and effortless everything feels with an EV. I might still like the sound of a v8 or a v10, and i might like the connected feel of a manual transmission, but i now realize i don't miss those things all that much...
Rumble driving experience is nice for short hop and drivers enthusiasts. But for commuting, long distance driving, road trip it's better electric quiet, I get less tired, less stressed. The rumble and NVH does wear you out in the long run.
I experienced a 5kph to 70kph acceleration in a stealth performance model 3 a year ago. It made me giggle and my eyeballs felt like they were flattening. Lovit!
Hey there are aftermarket kits that add pretty realistic engine sounds if that is what you are looking for while driving... Two there are Service Centers in all major Metro Areas, but I had a couple of minor issues and they simply came to my house to perform the service and wow, was it convenient...And third you can purchase a Standard Range Model 3 that has very similar performance for $38,000... I have had my Model Y for 8 months and absolutely LOVE it...
I think the silence makes the acceleration feel even more extreme. I saw a video where a police department (somewhere in CA, dont remember exactly where) had tried out a Tesla as a police cruiser (it did very well). The really (to me) interesting part was that they were also studying the officers; and they learned that when the Tesla cop got into a high speed pursuit, his stress level was vastly lower than in a similar pursuit in a traditional balls-to-the-wall, engine screaming to redline at each shift, gas cruiser pursuit.
"Im back in the Mustang..." and miss the acceleration. I get you. I had a 250cc motorcycle (a long time ago). I really enjoyed riding it. But then I made the mistake of test driving a 650 while I was with a buddy at the shop. The acceleration was quite a bit better than the 5.0 mustang of the day. it was fantastic. Then I got back on the 250 to ride home. I honestly thought something had broken on my 250, It wasnt going at all. Then I realized, it was the same acceleration as it had before; it was ME that had changed. (Traded it in on the 650 - and learned not to take gratuitous test drives!)
Was this shot in Pennsylvania?
I literally just sold my highly tuned Mustang after putting so much time and love into it after test driving a performance 3. All that work and wrenching and beautiful rumble were no match for the Teslas instant shotgun acceleration and comfort on long trips. Its like man, all that noise and shaking didn't translate into anything but a higher gas bill and more frequent oil changes and it still couldn't touch the Tesla. Ill see how it goes after a year, but after skipping my first Jiffy Lube visit, its getting harder and harder to look back. So far so good!
Quick question, did you trade it in the mustang or sold it privately?if so how much you got for it?
@@silverdc5 Sold my shadow black Bullitt privately for 65k (upgraded Recaros, electronic assist SC, TC on board, tons of Mopar, blue leds throughout and blue anodized under hood parts) pumped an extra 79hp out of it (not dyno verified but once)
I went form a Hellcat to a Model Y Tesla and I love it. What I would say is the best scenario is to have an ICE vehicle for longer trips and an EV for around where you live. We also have a Ram 3500 with the Cummins diesel for longer trips and this is an ideal set up for us. I love Tesla and will have a hard time going with someone other than them as far as an EV is concerned.
“I love my Mustang....but...that Tesla Model 3? I need one...I need one soon”
Tesla Smile!
I'm owning a Model 3 since 12 month and I love it. I made 40.000km in 1 year. But I also agree with you that missing sound and gear changes disconnect you a little from your car. So, from time to time I really enjoy to drive my Porsche 911 with manual gearbox to get this connection back :-). Nice video and good summary. Greetings from Germany.
I rebuilt my first car's engine, down to the block. That roar of the engine did connect me to the car and I didn't even listen to the radio because I wanted to hear the engine. When I heard others roar; my auto thought was "Wow what a cool powerful car" But after driving a Tesla model 3 Base model, I quickly changed my perception of the roar. Now my auto thought when I hear it is "Here comes a slow car". Even the base model will beat 90% of the cars you pull up next to on the road. In about two years there were only two times that I took off from a stoplight with intentions of getting in front of the car beside me and was not able to. I can't imagine how powerful the performance model must be.
What an honest review. This is all what is needed, open minded people who try out new things and give them a chance. I hate this never ending disussion about why only gas cars are real cars or why electric cars are better in every way. Both exists, at least at the moment, why not try out something new and appreciate the positives about both sides?
Teslas are amazing and clearly the future of driving, but these ICE cars will stay, at least for some fun, and it's good so.
Two great things about EV's , you fill up at home and instant torque
21:45 - range anxiety is a real thing. Think of it this way: while waiting for a vehicle to charge, rather than gas up, if somebody was standing outside of your window and every minute you are charging the vehicle they were handing you a dollar, How long would you want to stay? just a little thought exercise to try to put it in perspective. That's why I was hoping you had the vehicle for a longer so you could do some road trips. it's true that in some cases you will be spending 45 minutes charging but the majority of cases, especially as time goes on and test the continues to improve their infrastructure, you're more likely to spend 15 to 20 minutes charging. If you combine your charging stops we're eating / bathroom / leg stretching breaks then people often run into the problem of wanting to stay longer so they can finish watching their Netflix on the screen or playing video games with their family on the screen or finish eating their lunch before they start driving again. It has been interesting to watch the Tessa community develop over the last decade or so and interesting to see how people used to complain about having to charge for an hour or more in some cases but they would justify that because they would stop for a lunch and sit down at a restaurant and eat their meal and now those same people are complaining because they've barely gotten their food when their car is done charging because the infrastructure has improved so much over the last 5 years or so. It will continue to improve over the next 5 years and pretty soon it will be done to a matter of seconds of difference between gassing up and charging up. The data shows that 89% of charging for people, on average, is done at home and in your garage or parking lot or place of work so the amount of times that you'll be having to wait for charging are pretty small to begin with.
95% of all passenger trips are less than 30 miles. And there is no place in the continental US today that you cannot reach on their super charger network. And btw? 98% of all EV cars today are charged at home.
The weight is so evenly distributed due to the battery pack and skateboard design, it hugs the road much better than most cars
Have you been educated about Tesla service? Service centers are growing rapidly and are awesome
Absolutely agree on the sound. I had an F150 2.7L Ecoboost, which was fantastic. But now have a RAM Rebel Hemi, which is honestly slower, but the sound and fury it makes (especially with aftermarket muffler), gives it a sense of occasion that my 2.7L TT didn't. The sound is part of the driving experience.
The 2.7 is a great motor. I will like my cyber truck more though I'm sure.
Thanks for I thought a decently fair and honest review, from an outsider/non-EV customer perspective. You definitely got some of the feel for the different (and joyful) EV and Tesla driving experience, and judged it fairly I think from an outside perspective- trust me, it will grow on you!
I think it is important to have these kind of outside perspectives for folks unfamiliar with EVs, or Tesla, as it really is a different overall experience- better, I think in many ways, but does take a bit of getting used to, like any change.
So thank you for providing that, just try to avoid making offhand comments that might not be fully accurate or understood.
I thought you actually seemed pretty knowledgeable about the Tesla UI and features (eg battery pre-conditioning on way to SuperCharger), though as noted in many comments, you could clarify your comments about lack of service centers (they exist, just maybe not obvious/everywhere, and more importantly, there isn't really need for much scheduled maintenance! Most non-EV folks won't really understand that), and slow (unnecessary) charging above 70% on roadtrips- and note that 80-90% of most drivers will charge overnight at home (if they have plugs), so it's no loss of time.
I'm glad you showed how easy and fast it was to find & do a supercharge, though could have shown the onscreen GPS nav will automatically find & plan all charge stops for you, and how long they might take (although car nav tends to make fewer, longer stops..) This really helps folks reduce range anxiety; you could also show the Energy app & trip tab (which is VERY accurate, but also has Real vs Projected, in case folks get worried). Other websites/apps can help folks check out and plan roadtrips themselves, and see how EVs especially Tesla do... faster and cheaper than you think, as noted, typically it's 10-20minute stops every 1-2hrs, which is good for driver breaks... and AutoPilot makes it SO much nicer!!
abetterrouteplanner.com/
Hope you get a chance to test drive other EVs to compare, like Ford Mustang MachE, especially compared to yours! At least it has some (fake) noise :) I really hope Ford has a big success with it, and gets other makers to produce more & better (and cheaper!) EVs.
Thanks!
PS for others who want to test for themselves, info about touchless ~30min testdrives from Tesla, or, you can rent for a day on Turo (I assume this is what you did?)
www.tesla.com/support/test-drive
Lack of ignition noise or tick over at rest was the first thing I noticed when I got my model S seven years ago. These days of course you can get vehicles with added fake engine noises (see BMW i4 or Porsche taycan)
And, as you found out - switch back to ICE and it feels like you are driving an antique. Which is great if you are into classic cars, I guess, but otherwise just feels old
Thanks for keep making your videos For the Love of 🚗 cars yeah
:-)
great analysis, fascinating viewpoint. What about the environmental aspect - how does the car make you feel about the environment?
Its a car. It doesn't make me feel anything about the environment.
Well, about not polluting, tailpipe emissions, noise etc. Personally I found driving an EV quite a cathartic experience
You really have to feel the launch in person. The reactions are great but the Performance Model 3 is mind blowing.
I've had my M3 for three years and I feel the opposite as you. I love the lack of sound. I feel like when I get in my truck I have stepped back in time 20 years. The slow response, shifting of gears and all is just so yesteryear to me.
Great vid, thanks for sharing!
Really good video with a lot of good points. I think you have the wrong impression about charging. No one charges for 45 minutes at a time on a trip unless you stop and eat and it takes you that long to eat. It's a series of 15-20 minute stops every ~200 miles or so. The limited stop options is a real thing for sure. Sounds like a great followup video is a road trip in a Tesla!
The Tesla smile got to you.
yes i am also gas biased hate the smell now never noticed it before
Same when I changed to electric mower. Really like pushing mower aggressively and all the while just breathing fresh, well... normal air.
How does a Tesla hater already know so much about a Tesla?