How Miserable Is A Winter Tesla Road Trip? -18°C & Broken Superchargers
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- Can a Tesla Model 3 handle driving well below freezing for a road trip? How do cold temperatures affect electric car range? Comparison of summer versus winter driving efficiency!
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I drove my 2018 Tesla Model 3 Performance 2,500 miles to test its performance and efficiency in freezing conditions. Temperatures reached as low as 0°F (-18°C), and rarely jumped above freezing. There were icy parking lots, snow filled wheels, snow storms, and chilling temperatures, allowing for the ultimate test of Tesla's winter efficiency and performance. I also encountered my first broken supercharger, it genuinely would not provide any charge for my car!
This video will cover the 2,500 mile road trip, how navigation and superchargers work, why cold temperatures result in less range, what studies have been performed to estimate winter efficiency, what my actual efficiency was, how this relates to gasoline vehicles in terms of fuel equivalency, different driving strategies to minimize stops or minimize total driving/charing time, how higher speeds affect efficiency, how wheels and tires affect efficiency, charging at night vs morning, broken superchargers, how much EV road trips cost, how comfortable the road trip is in a Tesla, and Tesla's AutoPilot and Full Self Driving features. It's a data and info packed video, enjoy!
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What's more impressive is how he narrates a long video with precise numbers entirely from memory and what looks like in one or a few takes
Why can’t he just write it down?
That might be the 'Heads Up Display Teleprompter'. 😄
Totally agree. It’s like a professor delivering a lecture - except he is doing it for the first (and probably only) time. (To ice the cake, he is driving capably.)
Wow I didn’t even think about that
@@roboluigi - that would be a blog, welcome to the nineteen two thousands.
Title should been: I drove 2500 miles with my cat. In the winter with a Tesla.
This. Viewership numbers could easily have been 5X greater with cat in the title.
@@Cheeseybacun - 5x’s?? I don’t think so - wrong kinda cat ...
perhaps he was feline lonely...
No, no. It should be: "Shocking! UA-camr survives 2,500 miles in a Tesla with a Cat!"
"Shocking results! Cat survived Tesla hack electrocution, owner drives 2500 miles to save it!!!"
This guy deserves a lot of praise for his huge knowledge and methodic attention to detail.
An engineer's approach for sure! There is always quality content and the prep shows.
I think 3.6M subs is enough. 😉
Thanks mom!
A. Love your videos. B. The counter argument is that an ICE vehicle would only need to stop to refuel ~5 times and only for a few minutes each time (roughly 7 hours less wait time over the 2K-mile trip). A much bigger deal when traveling with kids.
Until you live through a Canadian Winter, - 30, you lose 30-60% of the charge overnight when the car just stands in the parking. When you drive, your car loses 20%+ more due to cold, and another 10%+ on running all your heaters. Your overall range reduces by more than 50%, and you'll have to charge your car at least 2-3 times a week, s[ending as much as gas
@@tomasgogashvily5350this is obviously not true🤣 not even close to reality
i can make easy 1000 km on my audi a4 so it will be 2 refueling
@@jakekarll8294 are you high? did you not see 4:00 of the video? 40%
@@jakekarll8294
You’ve obviously never been to Canada.
We close everything down, road maintenance crew don’t even bother to clear the snow when it’s actively snow & could snow for 2 straight days.
You wouldn’t understand.
Not a single soul outside, if anything happens to you the police or ambulance ain’t coming.
The secret to making money on EV's is to get Elon's list of where future charging stations will be and build a cafe/coffee shop next door.
Why? Just host a Supercharger.
The charging stations are being built next to existing infrastructure so bring your piggy bank the existing businesses aren't going to give up their location cheap.
The rates for a prime site would be so high it probably wouldn't be worth it...or could you outbid Starbucks?
exactly - 1:38 , those are 40-80 min stops, people will be bored to death
@@fcex558 Is that for real? I don't know anyone who owns a Tesla (they are quite expensive here in Europe for the regular folks), but I didn't know Tesla drivers are such ... On the other hand, I'm glad as an investor my stocks go higher thanks to brainwashed vegans' money :D
I absolutely love the way he makes the argument for and against the Tesla. Honest, straightforward, and clear
They are literally the least reliable major car maker in existence, do not buy them
End of my ted talk
I missed that part I guess , all he did was whine and complain about trivialities and dote over his cat .
never once brought up the driving experience , steering , handling , acceleration , cruise ...or even general comfort on that length of drive , seats , fatigue or lack of it ... NOTHING MUCH MORE THAN BLABBERING ABOUT A BROKEN PIECE OF PLASTIC ON A CHARGER
@@ericmiller254 Source? Oh thats right, your @ss! My friends with Teslas have better reliability than many other brands. Remember those dreaded Hyundai engines anyone? Honestly my friends with Model 3s put more miles on their cars than anyone else I know and have had zero issues requiring Tesla service. It matters because we live in an area 3+ hours away from any Tesla service location. Meanwhile I've had my Nissan in multiple times for recalls.
@@jermwerty Source is reliability surveys. Not "my friends said", which is anecdotal and useless.
Compared to a Prius Tesla’s are sexy. Topics no one has discussed publicly is how communist China owns all the cobalt & lithium mines & uses child slave labor under horrible conditions to work these mines. Another topic is the disposal of millions of highly toxic EV batteries @ their end of life, these things are extremely toxic & complex.
One issue to consider is being stuck in traffic in cold temperatures. Internal combustion cars can sit a idle and provide heat with little impact on range. But an electric vehicle has to burn power at a significant rate without moving. Here in New Jersey, I have often been stuck in completely stopped traffic for over three hours due to serious traffic accidents requiring things like helicopters to transport seriously injured people. The entire Garden State Parkway or New Jersey Turnpike can be closed for many hours in these circumstance. I also remember a freak ice storm where one of the Interstate Highways was closed for over a day. Passengers had to sit for over 8 hours before they could be evacuated from their stranded cars. The average sedan uses about 4/10 of a gallon of gasoline per hour at idle. The worst case is a passenger bus which uses about 1 gallon of diesel fuel per hour at idle. While the air conditioning compressor adds a load the heater does not on an internal combustion engine. In fact none of the electronics draw much of a load so you can sit in stopped traffic warm and cozy listening to your sound system or reading by interior lighting or recharging your phone or other electronic devices all you want. Also not the case in electric cars.
With a fully charged heatpump fitted tesla, you can heat the car enough to not freeze for around 40 hours.
Heat loss from the car is a lot lower when the car isn't moving.
15:41 jason keeping notes like a good engineer/scientist should 😆
Obviously no kids. This video convinces me NEVER to buy an electric vehicle for any road trip. These vehicles are just not up to the task at this point.
Props to the cameraman for hanging out on the dash to get the best driving shot.
Heh this comment made me laugh more than it should’ve
What are you saying there? His cat did all the filming while relaxing on the dashboard heater vent.
Potentially it was a smaller person
@@ButteryBao same 😂
It was really his cat who he trained how to hold a camera still and get him in frame lol
Eight hours total charging seems like a LOT of time sitting at a charger. That number was kind of a shock. That’s an extra day on the trip.
The future sucks.
@@Trialnerror Nah, EVs suck. And they are being shoved down our throats.
@@tinytownsoftware3837 This will be very short term...they'll never replace IC vehicles..
EV’s being able to make up 25% of the transportation is very possible. I just can’t see how it can be 100% in the next 30 years. There are 300 million cars on the road in the U.S alone, 15 minute wait times at chargers is going to clog everything up real fast.
But electricity is looking to be cheaper then gas dude, It costs over 100 USD to fill up the tank of my van. The extra time spent charging is worth it especially considering that the first year of super charging is free for model 3's.
There is a black piece stuck in the supercharger plug, these come off of older charge port designs, possibly because of summer heat fatigue or because of mechanical fatigue. Seems to be happening less often these day but still something to be aware of. Something interesting is if your own charge port guide post has broken of in the same prong then you’d be able to plug into the cable you had trouble with in your video 😂
Worst thing about my EV is the mileage when using heat and that’s with a heat pump. I miss the gross inefficiency of ICE and the massive never ending heat stream for no reduction in mileage.
You are still paying for it, it's just warming the atmosphere instead. Even in the summer.
@@usefulrandom1855 yes, I miss the gross inefficiency. But it’s also nice paying 1/3 or less per mile for fuel.
@@usefulrandom1855.. spoken like a true pathetic liberal.. I guess you don't give a S_ _ T of the absolute devastating effects on mining lithium.. the 1000 gallons of fresh water for every ton of lithium,, read on South America destruction in Peru, Argentina, Chile.. or that those psychotic communist Chinese own 75% of lithium mines... Because you know they care about labour and the environment.. typical,, you think you hug tree but don't give a S_ _ T how they mine cobalt, lithium copper..
I really like the fact that, in your reviews, you touch on just about every question I would have about whatever you’re covering. 👍
Happy to hear it! Thanks for watching!
I believe that is the objective of being an excellent teacher, which he is
@@SteelBelted b
Did not hear him say anything about the AC in the summer time.
Did not hear him say anything about the AC in the summer time
This video sounded like a F1 pit-stop analysis
"Going for the one-stop, I could drive more aggressively, even if I spend more time getting to the charging stations"
Hahaha, I was thinking the same thing! And then wondering if charging (instead of battery swaps) as a part of an Formula E race would be a fun strategic addition, or just boring to watch. Driver takes a 10 minute break to browse UA-cam. Hops back in with 40% more charge.
@@EngineeringExplained - adding a “charging pit stop” might promote development of efficient, safe and rapid charging technologies/batteries.
That was, hands down, the best and most informative segment on an all round very good video.
@@EngineeringExplained Correct me if I'm wrong (haven't watched Formule E that much), but I believe charging is an important part of the races, as the drivers don't only race on who drives fastest and does the corners best, but they also have to take efficiency and consumption into consideration because they might have to charge at some point-or at least they won't be able to finish the race if they run out of battery.
yeah, only diff being they don't spend quarter of the driving time waiting to fuel it up...
to that extent 10:30 and 19:44 don't match, is it 30 or 38?
Great content please never stop making videos.
Electric cars and ice cars have their own unique things that need to be taken care of...
Truly I love the fact that the gas station is at my house...so handy.
No more checking gas prices...
Really appreciate the detailed reviews. Curious where that beautiful snowy, densely forested highway is - stunning scenery!
Videos like this are why I’m subscribed. So much information and you consider a lot of the variables. Must be the engineer in you.
Thanks for watching Brad, appreciate the kind words!
I don’t like some of the people be like tesla is the best. I like your videos because you learn something. In general not a fan of electric ⚡️ cars but I think it’s fine as a short range car.
@@EngineeringExplained I wonder if it’d be even worse if you lived in a bad winter states like the northern states
@@inthebeginning6895 Yes, it would, especially where we are, north states. For long trips, we aim to start out with a full charge and a warm cabin, and like he says, when you're using a continuous 5 to 10 KW to keep the car warm, drive as fast as is safe / legal, stop at every charger. For max efficiency on short winter trips do the opposite - turn the heater on just 5 or 10 minutes before you leave, charge at the end of the trip. You won't have much (or not any) regen braking, but you'll be warm, and you won't burn 10 KWh warming up the battery just for a trip to the store.
@@RandyTWester Question for you, Randy- Do you think heat from the battery pack works it's way into the cabin in winter?
These videos are exhausting. Life is complicated enough without 18 stops and 10 hours of waiting around.
Yes 😂😂😂
You know this was a 2,500 mile trip, right? How many stops do you normally make on a 2,500 mile trip? How many 2,500 mile trips do you make?
I like the pitstop strategy at 8:00. Just what I needed while the f1 season is on winter break 🤣🤣🤣
Love your video. To be clear, HEAT PUMPS also take electrical energy from your battery to run an electric motor inside the heat pump compressor which scavenges ambient heat from the environment and transfers it into the cabin...again using more electricity to run the ventillation blower. The more available heat in the outside ambient air the more BTUs for a given electrical consumption and viceversa. To your point, yes, resistance heat uses more energy...but in extreme conditions will blow nice and hot compared to heat pump cold-blow...unless there are supplemental resistance heaters in the duct for very cold outdoor conditions. I do not know if this is how TESLA heat pumps handle extreme cold. But yes, HPumps are great.
For my 2018 Model 3 I fabricated a layered mylar insulated roof sunscreen for front and rear glass roofs , thus eliminating major heat loss through glass roofs. I Just use seat heater and am very warm.
Just use sunscreens as a pattern to cut emergency mylar aluminized "space blanket" to fit between Tesla mesh sunscreens and glass roofs. Trapped air is the insulator. Reflective coating bounces your body's radiated heat back down to you.
To me, the 18” wheels look a lot better than the 20’s. They are also more practical ...
Yep. The 18s are lighter, ride better, and are far less prone to damage. Steering response tends to be a bit less 'sharp', but you will quickly adapt and forget it. You want sharp responses? Get some DOT-legal track tires. But of course you're not going to do that. We're not racing, we're going to work or the grocery store or whatever.
IMHO the better wheels for this car would be 16" or 17". There's a worldwide manufacturers trend to put the biggest wheels they can fit in the wheelarch. And the steering response improvement with lower profile tires is as true as the fact that real roads have potholes to kill those wheels. I guess it's all about the look, and I miss more practical options.
@@Robcomesana yup, and when you get a punctured tire you have to wait for a tow truck because there isn’t a spare tire
@@onelyone6976 nothing stopping you from adding and carrying one if you're worried about it. Most only have a mini now if they have one at all.
It really weirded me out when he straight up drove by my house and it was in plain sight😂 sorta threw me off haha
Guys they live in a supercharger
I had that happen after I visited Israel. Came across some guy's motorcycle helmit-cam videos, and he went right by the place that I lived at for a while, like he didn't even know it was there. I thought, "that looks very familiar". Small world, huh?
How hot do these Telsa cars get when sitting in the sun during the summer with all that glass? I once had a car that got SIGNIFICANTLY hotter than any other car I ever owned from sitting in the sun.
@@tarstarkusz
I think that you can turn on the air conditioner, from an app on your phone. As it is an electric car, there is no need for the car to be "running" in order to turn on the air conditioning.
@@tarstarkusz I have one (model 3) and it wasn't a problem in the summer. I think the glass has a coating on it that impacts the temperature.
I didn't come here to get a Tesla experience.
I came here because your cat is ADORABLE!!!!
Thank you for posting this. I was concerned about how much winter driving would reduce the range.
Thanks. Winter is definitely the reason I buy my cars, even if it’s only ~4 months where it goes below freezing here - but the worst weather is the time it needs to shine.
I think you'll enjoy this one! Lots of interesting data/information!
@@EngineeringExplained loved it. Really interested in the “strategies” you discuss, speed vs charge time vs charge level... seems like there’s definitely something to that.
@@FuncleChuck For speed ride the fast charging wave (arrive empty, charge enough to get to the next very high speed charger, repeat) - TeslaBjorn has the detail if you want to look into this.
Exactly. This is why there are so many 4 whee drive vehicles in Michigan when only December-early April have snowfall that amounts to much. Also why I am looking for a car with AWD.
As resident of Minnesota I totally agree.
The question is: how many cats do you need to keep you warm with a thermostat set at zero?
Depends on the size of the cat. But heat energy from cat food costs more than heat energy from electricity.
@@RandyTWester alternatively, one could adopt the futuristic engine equipped with buttered cats.
1 mountain lion.
Once this guy told me .. some years ago .. I can start my manual car in second gear. Since then I skipped his videos until I started preparing for a Tesla purchase.
Just took a trip from MD To Tennessee in a model 3. I drove about 900 miles one way. I even had to drive through the artic blast that occured right before Christmas. Yes if you are in a hurry, it will bother you driving an EV. I would say it fairly added 1 and a half to two hours extra time. The range does decrease as it gets colder. When I was driving, it went from 51 degrees to 6 in about two hours. All in all, I made it with no issues and it handled very well in frozen precipitation.
Total waiting time for charge up in the Tesla for the 2000 miles was ~8 hours. Total estimate time for refuelling a conventional car over 2000 miles would be less than 1 hour. In a vacation type scenario this should not be a problem, however if you are in a rush this could be pretty frustrating especially for those who do a lot of long distance driving for business/work.
Yeah I drive 1-2000 miles a week for work and a 40 minute stop every 200 miles sounds brutal.
I don’t need to eat lunch every 3 hours on the road and the earlier I get done the earlier I get to go home. I’ll buy an electric car when flow batteries work and can be refueled all over the place.
@@Thomas5937 then you would be an extreme edge case like less the 1% of car buyers. Most people drive 30-50 miles a day with the occasional road trip
@@Thomas5937 so do you get a oil change every 2-3 weeks?
@@JD-yx7be my car has a 10k mile oil change interval and I usually run a bit over that interval. I get an oil change about every two months. Mostly highway with full synthetic so it’s not that big of a deal.
I have the model S. It has longer range. I put 60,000 miles on my first model S driving for work. This was a little over two years of driving for me. The range allowed 4 hours of driving at 75 mph. It worked fine. I enjoyed the car, and my clients loved riding/driving it.
Please do take one of his suggestions to heart. It takes forever to put energy into an ice cold battery. I made the mistake of having breakfast while attempting to charge once in zero degree weather in Ohio. The first 30 minutes I added only a few miles of range. It’s much better to drive for a least an hour, then charge. Charge the night before.
it's cute that "as low as -18" equates to a cold test for you. Signed, Canada.
Alaska concurs.
I think it should be -32 because he said 0 degrees F if I heard correctly. That's more like it. Signed Sweden 😁❄️☃️
Cute -18. Cold please do a real test the North like -30c these are real conditions -18 that’s when I put on a long sleeve shirt
@@mimmipiggast2243 That's not how °C/°F conversion works. 0°C = 32°F but 0°F ≈ -18°C. The formula is F = 1.8C + 32, or if you prefer, C = (F - 32)/1.8
@@Fred_P you are right. I mixed it up 😁 I lived in Houston for a year but we never had to deal w those temperatures. 😁 I usually just ask Alexa.
A truly great comparison as to the effects of cold weather on battery performance. Thank you for doing this
i'm really loving these tesla videos. and this guy is very very detailed, informative, and good at communicating those information.
i'm fascinated by these vids, but i will personally still drive a gasoline car for at least the next 5-10 years minimum.
16:06 there’s a black plastic ring in the plug that came off of somebody’s charge port pins so it won’t seat properly when plugging in.
came here to say this. If you have a pair of pliers you can reach in there and pull it out and then it will work for you and the next person.
Yup, those are the old revision model 3 deadfront pins that they've now changed.
@@BenBrand : think i’ll pass on sticking pliers into a 480V outlet, thanks tho!
@@GHinWI The plug is not on power when it hasn't initiated proper connection with a car.
@@LexanderStudio quick facts, the connector is designed to talk to the charger watch technology connections's video on it. He can explain it better than I can...
If you close your eyes Ross from friends is telling you about Tesla’s
🤣🤣🤣
can not un-hear/see this now.
All I could hear was Kermit the frog.
@@AaronBlake yup
Tons of good info. One thing missing is that I like to know how the weight (amount of cargo weights or number of passengers) would affect the range of the battery. Also, FYI: if the same road trip with the same weather conditions being discused in this video is done with my 2017 Madza3 Hatchback, the cost for gas is almost identical to the charging cost of Tesla. In fact, I have done trips like this more than 20 times. My Mazda3's odometer is now at 172 800 Miles. :)
And the mazda 3 is saving you about $35k off the initial cost.
Have you done it at the current $4-5 per gallon of gas? I've already saved hundreds of dollars charging at home at like $0.03 per kW (or roughly $2 to completely recharge) versus filling up the old gas tank for $40 for equivalent range. (old gas car got more range, so I accounted for using less gallons to equate cost of same range).
Even considering supercharging, which I've rarely used, it was significantly cheaper. $20 got me a full recharge at a fairly expensive location, where gas was about $4.50 per gallon, or about $40 for the same 260-270 miles of range (in a 30MPG car, about 9 gallons). So with this constantly fluctuating (and expensive) gas prices, electricity remains pretty stable and significantly cheaper.
When everyone is complaining of gas prices, EV drivers will not be thinking about it for even a second.
Actually I'm from Canada. The gas price here is more expensive than in US. Of the 20 trips that I did, 2 were in 2020, 5 in 2021, 6 on 2021, and 7 in 2022. On average, converting from $/g $ to $/g, it's roughly $4.8/gallon. My mazda 3 cost $20 500 US. How much your EV vehicle cost initially? How much time have you waste for the car be charged if you travel long distance? And how much time you spent pre-planning your trip to look for locations of the charging stations? Listen, I drive 3x times more than average drivers, and I love to have an EV vehicle. But saving gas is not everything, it's also about convenience, practicality. I go to the mountains where charging stations are no where to be found, and then, some chargers were not working. Also, if you live or go to a relatively warm/cool areas where charging stations are abandons like gas stations, then it's not so bad. Or in a perfect world, drive the Ev vehicles only in the city, and charge it at night at your place garage, it's great. But if you live in places like Montana or Alaska, Canada where the weather can drop to -40F, I like to see how well the EV vehicles perform. I guess my point is: it all depends on how much money you have, places you live, places you go. I would get an EV car or SUV AWD immediately, if the vehicle has a range of 600 miles per charge, and the inital cost is same price as a regular car with a average MSRP of $25000 or an SUV of $35000. All being said, I love to have a plug-in hybrids instead.
Does the cost matter? You only do road trips like a couple time a year. What matters is the daily drive cost which is much lower then superchargers.
@@lachlanB323- don’t forget the terrible depreciation. Good luck!
Great no nonsense review. Let’s not forget though that we don’t regularly go on long road trips. The average driver travels about 60 miles a day….to and from work, do some shopping, kids to ball or hockey practice etc. and your Tesla will handle all this with no issues. A fast charger in the garage or just use one where you shop or dine maybe once a week and you’re all set. For most of us a 2000 mile road trip might happen once a year on vacation but even then most of us usually head up to the cottage or camp somewhere well within the distance a Tesla is capable of. My buddy goes up to his cottage with his family every weekend…..2 and a half hour drive with no issues. Plugs her in and she’s ready for the trip home. This is all doable. And remember, new battery technology ….solid state comes to mind as one….is just on the horizon with promises of greater range and ten minute charge times and once the big auto companies start competing for your dollar, you can bet the EV will soon be the car of choice for most drivers.
I was only looking at the title and was like, how the hell there's a supercharger in a Tesla.
It's a dealer- installed option, including curb feelers and sport exhaust.
Rich rebuilds is putting a v8 in a tesla so there could be a supercharged tesla in the future
@@jamesengland7461 Curb feelers! Haven't seen those in many years!
It's the same technology as the Turbo in a Taycan ;-)
@@johnhunter7244 i watch him too,i hope he succeds
3:21 man, that scenery is beautiful. 🌲
Crazy too see the road I live on being in a video lol
@@justinf.7073 What?
Car and Driver had teams last year drive electric cars from Chicago to DC. Some cars had major issues finding charging stations and ran into lines and broken chargers. Some of the teams took days longer than some of the others. The teslas won, but everyone said they wouldn't want to travel this way, that they would take a gasoline powered vehicle for travel over any of the electric cars.
their drivers must have been idiots. i'd never take a gas car on a cross-country trip over a tesla.
@@SpottedSharks I mean I'm pretty sure Car and Driver knows how to drive but OK whatever.
The US energy Secretary sent ICE cars ahead to reserve chargung station on her welk publicized cross country trip. That says it all.
2:38 Dawwww! That's one cute kitty!
"Daw"? Boomer.
@@miniena7774 that's _Mr./Mrs._ Boomer to you !
You took Bucket with you! Bucket is so adorable, cats (and dogs!) never complain about the radio station you are listening to, they are in the present and give you their vibes of warmth and love. They have such a calming effect for us as well. The perfect traveling companions. Thank you for posting about the road trip in the Tesla and showing Bucket!
I'll point out that north of your American border we often experience temperatures lower than -40c. Great information and math, and definitely clarifies many questions about cold weather performance. I would love to see how this compares to use in actual "really cold temperatures."
@@fergyspoolshots ok you'll see them, brand new. I want to see one with regular use that is five, six years old, my guess is you'd have about a golf cart's level of range at that point. Not a realistic deal if you ask me.
@@davik9003 That is actually a logical fallacy, as heat kills batteries, which is the reason they have a pretty sophisticated cooling system. Cold actually extends their lifespan, as it slows down the chemistry and increases their lifespan.
So, while cold weather reduces range, it also makes the battery last longer as a side effect. This is counter intuitive to people used to combustion engine Lead Acid batteries not lasting as long, but that is due to the load and strain put on those to start cold engines, while the capacity of the battery is already reduced.
You won't get the temperature you set to in any weather colder than -5C. Basically the car will prioritize range over comfort. You can set it to 25. It will never heat up near it. Maybe 18-20 after long time. If you put it at max heat, maybe it'll reach 23-24. It's never as toasty as gas car as they have almost unlimited engine residual heat
@@i6power30 It actually depends on the car. I have driven some very fuel efficient cars with 4 cylinder engines, and those also struggled to heat the car, as they really didn't produce enough heat. But, the advantage of engines only being 20% to 30% efficient instead of over 90% efficient like electric motors are, you have all this waste heat you can use when it is cold, but is obviously useless when it is hot outside...
@@fergyspoolshots I like how teslatards always think its about being stuck on the big oil plantation. No its about having the most capable vehicle. I have a truck because I use it. I prefer gas or diesel because I would rather not wait an hour while my vehicle charges. If I'm stopped for an hour, its because I choose to. I also prefer ICE since housing is stupidly expensive here and having a garage to charge the thing is an incredible luxury. Guess who owns teslas? All the rich foreigners who have never done any real work in their lives. They're all bug people who would never survive outside of a city
Excellent Review! You answered a lot of questions I had about EVs. I live in a climate where we easily hit -31 - -40 farenheit regularly over the winter and you've given me a good idea what to expect during times like that. For now i'll stick to gas powered or a hybrid.
Me, too!
Tesla will have to up it's game on a very solvable problem if it wants more than a token share of the northern market for vehicles.
@@richiehart7858 if by “very solvable problem” you mean maintaining range in very low temperatures, myself and many other EV owners would greatly appreciate if you’d sell your solution to Tesla, GM, Ford so that we can all enjoy the improved range.
Ban EVs.
@@markmiller8903 That would be a good start! lol
Because of the cat, I would have liked this video twice if possible 😂
I liked the video and your comment as an alternative.
@@ScathingMobile SAMESIES!
You drove 2500 miles with an open cat litter box right behind you? That's some dedication.
Thanks so much for these videos! I love how modern vehicles show you options for saving fuel, hybrid or not.
It will be interesting to see what happens after widespread EV adoption when there is a regional winter storm with massive power outages.
Very true.
Dont gas station pumps need electricity too?
@@maxpowers8791ify Some gas stations have back-up generators for their pumps.
And I can easily store spare gas to refuel a gas powered vehicle.
I lot of people will not get to work and those on the road will die.
@@maxpowers8791ify Yes but a full tank in an ICE vehicle will take you a lot further. Also a much generator will keep the pumps running.
There are a few Tesla's up here in Yukon Canada. -28°C right now. Go test a Tesla in Dawson city, Yukon and you could see if it will function at -50°!
Dude @ -50 its already hard to even start up a diesel, what are you talking about.
I am pretry sure that ICE engines dont appreciate this Kind of engine cycles either. Normal cold Starts are already pretty stressfull for an engine. Everything below 20°C startup is a reason for premature death for pistons, their rings, cylinder walls and crank bearings
The media center in my truck does not like working past -30 I can only imagine the large display in a tesla
I drove my Tesla in -45 F with windchill -55 F in Minnesota 2 years ago. Wasn’t too bad, only used 390wh/mi. But the suspension did sound funny because it was so cold - but still drove just fine.
EVs don’t start they turn on. Yes they work fine in any weather.NASA had an EV on the Moon in the early 1970s.
I can’t imagine -28 let alone -50! What?!
I live in rural Canada and it is minus 36 Celsius (minus 33 Fahrenheit) as I watch the above video so the temperatures described in the vid are a bit mild. Also, the road trip was through populated areas with relatively clear roads. In that scenario Tesla performed perfectly adequately, and I find myself pleasantly surprised.
But responsible winter driving focuses on safety, not on trivial inconveniences like reduced temperatures or excess minutes spent at a charging station. Fundamentally, winter driving comes down to the risk of being stranded with your vehicle and having to wait a seriously long time for help to arrive.
With an ICE vehicle that risk is mitigated by frequently filling up with fuel so that the tank is always at or near full capacity. That surplus fuel used sparingly could keep a stranded driver and passengers warm for days if necessary. If EV drivers routinely run their batteries from 20% to 75% capacity to minimize charging times, then a rural white-out or a mishap on black ice could end in tragedy. EV drivers can learn to better manage that risk, but ICE vehicles will be safer in rural areas in the north.
But what about winter conditions that result in black-outs? Ice storms are not infrequent and routinely leave millions without power for a short time, and leave EV vehicles instantly without a charging source. That's not just a risk for EV's caught out looking for a charging station. That's a risk for EV owners at home who need their vehicle for emergency use such as evacuation.
There's a significant niche for EV's now but they can be problematic, even dangerous for use in certain winter and other emergency conditions. I would be interested in seeing and evaluation of EV's in that context.
what are you blithering about ? I'm in Canada too . who in their right mind buys a tesla sports car to drive in the WINTER here ??? or any sports car ? you've been eating that yellow snow ! stop it ! your arguments are not observations , just goofy postulating and melodramatic fretting . you must be out east with your "ice storms" which you surmise will leave you stranded when having to go drive in the middle of it (are you off your rocker ) , for all those that keep their EV discharged waiting for it to happen , I guess . then " emergency use such as evacuation." ??? In 70 years out here on the prairie we've never needed to evacuate , how bout you ? just making garbage up ! if you "evacuate lots you'd better get a nice gas powered HELICOPTER !!! "then a rural white-out or a mishap on black ice could end in tragedy" what are you blithering about ? how does that not happen with ANY vehicle ? stop your bs
@@bobsaturday4273 Teslas are now sports cars? You can drive most Porsches and Audis without any issues in winter as many do here (north, not Americas). Needless to say, Teslas are deeply discounted. Fun toys, totally impractical.
I’m trying to understand your concern. My Model 3 LR is all wheel drive (they all are) and performs remarkably well in ice and snow conditions. As for blackouts (which I have experienced), it’s much less of a problem than with an ICE car. In my case, the Model 3 is plugged in and “topped up” when the blackout happens. Now in a blackout I can’t get additional electricity but you can’t pump gas either. What are the odds your ICE car has a full tank when a blackout randomly occurs?
@@johncahill3644 You need to pump gas way less frequently. The tank is so much bigger. Some places like Florida and 3rd world countries have generators for blackouts. In rural areas, you're also likely to have gas stored away in a canister for a chainsaw or other equipment.
At least your heat pump was working! Thank goodness.
Hope they get that figured out quickly.
I was realy looking forward for that explain about the "chill" part right at the end. 😂 Great report on these two long trips. Cold weather can make it a bit harder to use an EV but charging while your battery is warm will really help 👍
Jason: "Road trip!"
Cat: "Let's go!"
Great video as always very informative. The problem I have with electric cars is I don't fall into 70,000-100,000 price range. I spend $35000 on a car. And I get 30 to 32 miles to the gallon I've driven across country at least 8 times and never had to think so much in my life about driving! that's the crazy part. when you're traveling across country you're thinking about places you want to stop and visit, not where I can charge. if I wanted to get across the country in the straight line I would take a plane.
I got a brand new 2018 Nissan Leaf in 2019 when the 2020s came out for $24K ($10k off MSRP due to 2 year old new car still on lot) plus got a $7k federal tax rebate. So call it $17k for a brand new electric car. I would never drive it more than just around town or the next city over, and I think road tripping with anything but a Tesla for an EV is still a horrible experience. I'm with you, I'll fly on an airplane if I'm going across country. Or I'll just use my gas vehicle for regional trips. But for a family with 2 or more cars, one should always be EV in my opinion they are just more fun to drive and nearly free to operate when you drive them locally and charge at home! (full charge for me is $2.50 - $3)
Most people who purchase Teslas are top 20% income earners or they have youtube or social media business that they can write off 100% of the business investment. Most social media business own Telsa for the tax write offs.
@@wanglee21 Especially this engineering nerd!
@@AaronSchwarz42 Who cares?
As much im against that early EV introduction and the e-waste of batteries and their recycling, if i could afford a Tesla i would, also if i hate this fake inventor and INVESTOR ONLY (from the super rich parents which probably abused a lot of people in their mines) Elon Musk.
The base Model 3 without savings or tax incentives is $45k. The long range all wheel drive is $51k. Not sure where your $70-100k idea came from but there are plenty of electric cars under $50k new and if you’re financing you should factor in your gas savings. I save about $250/mo on gas switching.
Now that gas is $4 a gallon, it makes even more sense to get a Tesla lol. I recently purchased a 2018 M3P from Carvana for $53K. I love it so much, and now bought a 2022 M3LR just to have extra mileage for road trips. Thanks for all this info!
Yea I bet you like stopping every 3 hours on a road trip to charge for 2 hours. I bet you like paying mechanic fees too
Diesel is $8.4 a gallon here
@@F30_Hellion electricity and time must be free
@@higherlifts420 You have no idea what you're talking about
Yeah no. Electricity in here is like +150% atm compared to last year. And yeah while gas is more expensive, it's only up by 30%. And this winter has been super cold. We've had like over 10 days of below -20c. And well, you can just see the complaints pour in. Think Hyundai has been the worst offender with range dropping by half. But Tesla fairs well, because they warm up their batteries during drive and maybe storage(haven't checked). So the range doesn't drop that much. But I frequently drive 150km and back without charging possibility anywhere during trip. So it's not going to work. During the summer it's fine though with the caveat that I can't charge at home.
As far as tires go I think it makes more sense to just stick with a set Michelin CrossClimate 2's year round. Unless you plan on going 150MPH or more, or plan on doing a lot of race track driving. I think those CrossClimate 2s also would have yielded a better driving experience in the snow and traction as well as energy efficiency. Otherwise, that's some really awesome data, reflection, and experience there. Thanks for sharing the MPGe conversion unit there. I was wondering what that was.
This is precisely why I drive a VW Touareg TDI. It gives me a 725 mile range on each fill up. Love my beast👍
I drive a Tesla Model S 90 d that will do circles around your “beast”. No Tesla owner ever is concerned about range. You would have to sit 12 hours to,use that range. Your ass, or your bladder can’t do that! Why??
@@davidvicari5139 to each their own. I drive 35,000 miles a year so my car works for me. Tesla is quite a beautiful car just not for me. I need “range and reliability in freezing temperatures
I love this kind of thing because as they say... One physical test is worth a thousand expert opinions.
Well done. Thanks.
Good report. Love driving quickly on curvy, up and down, nicely paved country roads. Did a LOT of that during cross-country road trips just prior to COVID in a VW GTI and 6-speed Mazda Miata. About to (hopefully) get an EV so I'll do it again. Impressed with the Michelin Winter tires...same thing on wife's Subaru. Almost comical how I couldn't get it to slide on snowy roads! Imagine your Model 3 was the same
Thank you very much for the winter trip and for the detailed decomposition of it! 👍
Plan an hour for charging and driving out of your way to charge. Road trips suck in a Tesla, the charging time adds a ton of time even to a day trip
Getting better every year. Imagine doing cross county in 2013 compared to today. Now think about how much better it would be in the next few years when 250kw chargers are common
I was using 250kW super chargers every time. There is no getting around having to wait if you are on a long trip, I even cut the charging time short so I could get going. I started with a 54 mile surplus for my anticipated 175 mile leg and ended with 15 miles to spare. There is such a thing as range anxiety and when it’s night time and you just want to get home, the last thing you want to do is go to another supercharger for the 4th time in a day.
“Prolly a good idea to play it safe and not mess with the broken super charger”
*sticks his hand and camera inside to look at the wires😂😂
To be fair, he was wearing rubber-soled shoes 😁...
150kW is scary levels of power, but I very much doubt the contactors to deliver it close under any circumstances without a handshake to the car. You can hear the contactors in the battery pack on the car closing to accept it after about 30 seconds when you set the SuperCharger on the car, surely the actual DC cords have similar protection.
@@TemplarOnHigh Indeed, those contactors are way in the back of the supercharger, in the electronics cabinet.
The capacitors inside a camera actually give you quite a belt. It might have been because I wasn't expecting it, but my impression was that it hurt more than when I stuck a screwdriver into a 230V ac light fitting. Not willing to repeat either in the interest of science!
He didn't actually stick the camera INSIDE there.
Thank you for sharing your two trips experiences in summer and winter. You mentioned about winter driving used more battery energy. What about summer’s usage of air conditioned - any effect?
Yes, air conditioning (especially when it is really hot out) will have an effect, but it's closer to 3-5% of range loss in my experience as opposed to the more extreme losses in the winter.
Using a heat pump for heating (for cars that are equipped with it) also greatly reduces the losses, since a heat pump used for heating is basically an air conditioner that is running in reverse. Instead of creating heat, it simply extracts it from the outside - and this is a surprisingly efficient process even when it's pretty darned cold outside.
Yeah, air conditioners are much more efficient because they exploit the properties of refrigerants so it's less noticeable. You can get like 400% efficiency out of them, so it's much more efficient than even the 100% efficient resistive heaters in EE's Tesla. The new Teslas use a heat pump which is an AC working in reverse (instead of taking heat from inside your cabin and moving it out, it's taking heat from outside the cabin and moving it in). The colder it gets, the less efficient this is, but generally it's still more efficient than resistive heaters until it gets extremely cold (think like -40C), so it's much more efficient for 99.99% of driving unless you live snugly next to the damned arctic circle
When I was in my twenties, I had fun seeing how far I could drive without stopping*. 30 years later, I really appreciate the stops at superchargers- to stretch my legs, get a coffee, go shopping, stay fresh.
*Get the right mix of drinks and salty snacks, and you can do a whole 8 hours/whole tank of gas in one sitting, Chicago to Rochester!
I'm 66. Last weekend I drove from Phoenix to Santa Rosa, CA. Non-stop. I guess we age at different rates :)
@@davidgapp1457 Non stop driving is the worst. So much nicer to stop and enjoy the trip.
@@stighaaland5357 Given how short American vacation time is, I have to disagree. We get two weeks a year and if I have to drive, I want to get it done. Of course I usually fly but depends on the type of holiday. I think the longest non-stop drive I did was on my FZR600 motorbike (approximately 1000 miles, Phoenix to Santa Rosa, CA via Zion National Park. As for stopping, I don't find gas stations to be particularly attractive, so I don't tend to hang around longer than I have to.
@@davidgapp1457which brings up a more serious concern. You are 66, working, and only get two weeks of vacation.
Awesome video, Jason! Thanks for providing content for free, that is better than what multi-million dollar TV companies can!
Too kind, really appreciate it!
Thanks for sharing your experience! It's good to hear actual perspective from someone doing this.
Anyone who loves cats is my kinda guy. That alone makes this video worth watching. Megakudos!
Air density is higher in winter and so is wind drag, which is most of the energy difference. An effect most noticed in airplanes (instead of barely clearing the wires in summer you're 500 feet above them in winter) which get more thrust and more lift in cold air. Air drag is just backward lift.
I love the little setup you had for the cat and heating the seat for him :)
This is by far the most accurate and informative video by MR. EE. He sticks to real data and real world situations to provide useful and accurate analysis of the electric car reality. Kudos on this video Mr. EE. Glad you showed you could make a video not filled with misinformation and errors. Beautiful kitty too. Wish all your videos were this well informed and accurate.
Wherever you were filming during most the drive looks beautiful. And great video by the way👍🏻
Informative article. Thank you. I've been finding EV efficiency rates not unlike your own.
I drive a Hyundai Kona EV, It has a heat pump. For me climate control in winter draws around 5% or roughly 15 km (9 miles) of range from the reserve. That's because I don't keep the cabin at room temp*. It's winter. I'm already dressed for it with heavier clothes and a coat. 18 C (65 F) is quite comfortable. I don't care for driving in gloves so I sometimes use the steering wheel heater. It is a resistance device of course, but doesn't seem to take a noticeable bite out of battery range.
Same thing in summer. Usually I dress in shorts or lightweight pants and T-shirts, or summer shirts. I set climate control to 23 or even 24 C (73 - 75 F). It's as comfortable as relaxing on your patio on a summer day and again only uses 5% or so of battery range.
I've had my Kona for two winters now. Overall, winter driving uses about 15% of battery reserve (surface slippage & snow/slush resistance, cabin comfort, battery efficiency, more lights etc.). It would draw more if I tried to keep the cabin at room temperature. Come to think about it, that's about the same winter fuel-efficiency loss I've experienced with every ICE vehicle I've ever owned.
Kona EVs also use the heat pump to maintain optimum battery temperature. That burns some extra power in the winter -- and in really hot summer periods -- but it seems to net out on the plus side when it comes to range. I can easily manage 400 km (250 mi.) and still have 60 km (35 mi.) or so of range left.
*Of course if I'd brought my cat I'd probably be expected to crank up the heat too...
Your cat is just gorgeous! And such a sweet personality. Great video... as always.
Eventually you will have to wait for the chargers. I think that problem is being hugely underestimated.
Assuming they continue to build cars but don’t build any more chargers, you would be correct.
Fortunately Tesla and the other EV makers continue to both a) build new chargers and b) increase charging speeds, both of which will reduce waits.
@@davidbingham4348 not at a fast enough rate lol
Wait? I've never even seen an electric car, much less a charging station!
There have already been many instancces of people encountering long waiting times for an open spot at a charging station. I agree the situation is only going to get worse. This is why - given the current battery technology - that Plug-in Hybrid cars are a much better alternative to the 100% battery-powered eelectric cars, since their drivers can opt to quickly gas up at any convenient gas station, instead of waiting on long line for an open chrging spot at a charging station.
8 hours of charging? That's probably much more than pumping gas in a Prius with a fairly small gas tank and a 600 mile range.
I prefer stopping at any old gas station and filling up in 5-10 minutes and all i need to look at is the gas gauge. Also unlimited heat and A/C without worrying about mileage. Also pull through reliable gas pumps with roofs is nice. AND, i always have the option to carry a gas can.
Most thorough information!! You make the best videos! Thank you!!
When I drive my ICE vehicle in weather like that shown on your camera, I always travel with a full tank of gas just in case there is a stoppage and I need to sit there with the engine running and heater on. Traveling with less than a full charge seems a tad risky because you never know in that weather.
Bjorn Nyland on UA-cam did a test to see how long the battery would take to drain, it took over 3 days in a Tesla. I think he’ll be fine!
@@harsimranbansal5355 I belive he's saying that the extra charging stops are a good idea because it's the electric vehicle version of traveling with a full tank of gas. He's not claiming the Tesla isn't capable.
I AM curious how well the Tesla does in cold weather when it is 6yrs old and the cells in the battery have some miles on them.
@@mrdumbfellow927 It would still be better to just drive to each charging station instead. Also theres a company called “tesloop” and you can watch their videos on UA-cam about how their cars fare. They put like 700k and even 800k miles on the Tesla and some are running with their original battery pack and motor. Plus these were the initial 2013 or 2014 model S’s. The model 3’s should last much much longer and fare much better!
@@harsimranbansal5355 that's BS, all these influencers are here to deceive you in the name of the companies they were hired by, it drains in a day at those temperatures
@@THESLlCK Does yours drain in a day? No of course not ... you don't have a Tesla yet you seem to know more about them than people who do. I'm not an influencer. I have a Tesla. It doesn't drain in a day at any temperature! Now... who's paying YOU to dis EVs?
That's one big thing my friends says with his tesla up in ND he says he get about half the mileage and doesn't let it sit out over night
It can't sit out overnight, it burns so much energy keeping the batteries warm, especially with the current weather there (not about 0F for days on end).
What happens when the batteries start to lose their capacity ?
@@TKUA11 you get even less range
@@christopherhaak9824 So "saving the planet" with a BEV requires that everyone in cold climates build a heated garage...no carbon footprint there 🤣
thanks for these videos, I'm shopping for a new car and will definitely pass on EVs for now...I live in one of the coldest states and the range loss + lack of reliable charging infrastructure outside of the major cities = high chance of being stranded, no thanks
Same in hot states, the constant AC is another juice drainer.
Thank you for the relevant analysis. Such a great perspective for anyone considering an EV to compare with their ICE. I wouldn't mind the charging as I find myself stopping every hour or two to walk, eat, do some work, use my cellphone or take a nap. Thanks for your time in doing these!!!!
This is a great video. I experience this in New England winters! Had the same conundrum driving from NJ to Boston last night. Drive slow or send it and charge multiple times because temps were 8 and windy! One thing that probably adds to the 41% drop is luggage, skis etc. Weight makes a huge difference.
This was a pretty level headed video for a Tesla fan. Though I have to say I have a friend with a Tesla we go on vacation with and their Tesla can be a pain. I don't have to plan ahead with my ICE car, they are always trying to route the trip around their need to find chargers and plugs. We all have so much on our plates and going from needing 1 stop and 8 minutes to give my car 500 miles of range to four 30 minutes stops is a pretty big inconvenience. Not to mention you don't even get to pick where you stop, you have to stop where there is a charger, it just takes a lot of freedom out of owning a car. And yes I know more chargers will be built and it will get better.
You drive for 500 miles without stopping on your road trips?? ..and when you do stop its only for 8 minutes?
wow, sounds fun
@K B sounds awful wasting 30% of your day stopping every 90 minutes
It’ll never get better Dude, think, more EV’s and more chargers won’t even even out, It’ll get worse..Imagine ALL cars as EV’s and just step back a little and that’s where you’ll be
@@dimebucker2 When you need to get home, what's wrong with that. Last summer I drove from VA to to CT in 7 hours. I stopped once a few minutes to pee. It's hilarious to me that EV fanbois are telling everyone how and how long they SHOULD be driving, because we're all doing it wrong apparently. Or maybe you're just finding reasons to excuse the inadequacies of EVs...
@@malcomreynolds4103 “Every 90 minutes” when the range on a Tesla performance is now 315 miles. You’re delusional.
I have a 2022 model y. Took a couple of short day type road trips. Super easy. Charging much faster than I thought. Gave me easy planning to stop and eat. Very easy and comfortable ride.
I mean, could the Tesla superchargers look any more bad ass? They are so cool looking. Everything Tesla builds is a stunning work of art.
I have seen similar results driving in 40 degree Fahrenheit, I was still able to get 285 wh/mile going an average of 67 in a model y performance with 18” rims. Not sure where people are getting 40 percent less range in the winter, can’t wait to debunk this
40 degree Winter you must be a Coastie???
I mean, 8 hours of charge time on a 2000 mile journey. Seems like a ton, especially vs fuel fill-ups.
If you look at it from a perspective of one stop every 200 miles, then it doesn’t sound that much. That’s 3 hours of driving between stops, at which point it’s nice to have a walk and go to the toilet.
@@harbl2479 Would definitely not stop every 200 miles with a regular car, heck Ive driven to Rovaniemi 4 times from Helsinki (820km), one without any stops, once with a piss stop by the road and twice where we went to eat. I consider it a waste of time if I constantly have to stop. Electric cars for me are something you drive in the city or close proximity. Wouldnt do roadtrip with one.
@@Sinr0ne first of all you're more than likely a spoiled out of touch traveler who is held captive to recency bias who doesn't take into account the fact that if you made the trip a hundred years ago it would take you three times longer that's what makes you spoiled and you don't seem to realize that you're convenience of the gas vehicle is putting soot up your nose and your lungs and your mouth and everywhere else in the environment but again typically you don't care about that so what different does it make your health versus convenience sorry for the tough talk but people like you need wake up calls but most times you never wake up it seems but that's on you.
@@Iambriangregory just accept you got suckered by Elon. Cope more.
@@sz8938 seems like you must think you're a talking to a mirror because people in the position of dominance and intelligence don't have to accept anything and you are common as shown that your brain and needs to be recharged I think on the supercharger because it has nothing to offer to anybody except your opinion which is like noses everyone's got one! So you have anything of value to contribute to the discussion after that brain is recharged you can recommend but you better recharge that brain. And recognize your condition of not recognizing the advances that have been made in this technology but for a spoiled person they wouldn't recognize that at all go ahead and recharge it'll take a couple years probably to get you to 50%, hahaha
Thank you for excellent fact filled description.
My take away: You started with a full charge and made 11 recharge stops.
I regularly make a similar trip in my 36mpg Honda. Regardless of outside temperature, I stop 5 times x 10 minutes.
But look how little traffic there is on the road. Do the same trip, in the winter from NYC to Chicago.
you can not beat gas powered vehicles...plus the cost of the tesla versus the cost of the honda what would be the difference in cost..... you can buy a hell of a lot of gas for the difference in vehicle prices.....plus what is the cost of replacing the battery pack in the tesla. only a few places can work on a tesla, and i would assume you will get spanked harder at that repair shop versus the cost at a gas vehicle dealership...
@@rpap5322 and what happens if you get stuck in a huge backup from a flipped 18 wheeler and your battery is about dead and no chargers in sight?
@@prule1335 it's going to use very little electricity just sitting there, and they have an off switch. Y'know, exactly like a regular car.......
Not if you have the heat on....
Thank you I’m about ready to pull the trigger on a new model Y and I’ve been concerned about winter road trips. I watched the Ohio Tesla guy go through blizzard and he had a miserable low efficiency trip. I think he had a lot of things going on and it really discouraged me.this video has helped me and I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
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@@datbouldrawlinun8183This isn't your dating app, grandpa
Buying an EV is the worst decision you can make.
@@bc_usa how so?
@@logitech4873have you seen the news?
For people who use a car mostly for long trips, a Tesla would be significantly less than ideal. However, most people take road trips only occasionally and, when not taking trips, they charge at home. All that is required to charge a Tesla at home is a 240 volt 50 amp outlet for level two charging. That will fully charge a car overnight.
Usually when I arrive at home I plug my Tesla model 3 in. The charging is programmed to charge only at off-peak hours when electricity cost less. Where I live in California it is 33 cents per KWH off peak and 52 cents per KWH (4 pm to 9 pm) on peak during summer on weekdays but less on weekends.
Extra thumbs up for keeping your cat happy and warm. 🐱
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Kitty!
Exactly! :D
Jason, your cat is a cool cat, he or she was having fun.
Looks like a beautiful drive. Good vid ;)
I love this guy. That being said, absent any fundamental change in the driving realities of EVs, I will not be purchasing an EV anytime soon. Far too expensive, given the hassle of range anxiety and I do NOT stop when I do road trips. I've gone 500 miles without stopping, many times, then 20 minutes to gas up and use the facilities, and back on the road. The places I go to are not near any major airports so driving is far more efficient, but not if it'll take "days" to make the 15- hour trip. And, before everyone starts with the "you're unique" comments, I am trying to bring up the fact that most people will only adopt new technology as long as it's "better" than the current tech. More hassle is the exact opposite of better.
Or they'll put up with the inconveniences if its significantly cheaper. Right now EVs are both less capable AND more expensive.
This is by far the best video I have ever seen explaining things you have to think about when owning an electric car. What I have learned is I never want to own one. Too much to think and worry about. No thanks. 😁
I bought a Tesla M3 performance as a trip car its fun to drive and the stops arent that big of a deal really. I stop to grab a drink or use the restroom (usually the 10-15 charge time is done before I am) and I time that around charging. Our longest stops are normally 25 minutes and we eat at that long stop it works pretty well for us. We have a 2021 and it has the heat pump so it uses very little power to stay warm. We do enjoy the car like you said not a save money kind of car but fun to drive.
We're all here for Bucket! We want more Bucket, the cool engineer cat!
Great Video Jason. Impressive to see you cite so many stats while driving uninterrupted. Smart lad and a good perspective view on electric roadtrips
Nice video, I love the real world evaluation on things. It's quite amazing that he is not reading a script. Tesla's have an amazing range compared to all the other electric cars on the market.
Very comprehensive video! Thanks, man!
Great test and review, thank you.