I believe you may be mistaken about the font size. The lettering is 8.6 or whatever, and the space between the lines is 10.5 point leading. (‘Leading’ i suppose refers to the lead spacers to separate the lines of lead type in old printing methods). It’s the leading that makes this quite small font so very clear and readable.
I hear what you’re saying about cost. But: how long does the average person use a Bible? I need somebody who does daily reading not somebody who buys one and never uses it. I have around 25 Bibles, maybe more, and some of mine are a half century old One is going to use a Bible for many years say a decade or more, is the difference in price for purchase really going to make any difference amortized overtime? I want the best that I can get which is usually goatskin. I have found when I bought cheap Bibles in my youth, that every day , it irritated me that it was not a great quality. Though I can easily afford goat skin now, I would save up if I had to to afford it. I have a few luxuries in my life, but one of them is the sensual, ultra flexible feel of my favorite Bibles for daily reading . Thank you very much for this comparison. Best wishes from Texas!
hello, how are you? I've got one question is it the exact same quality of the paper in both bibles? the calf split and the goatskin leather. because that's what matters to me the most. thank you so much.
Hmm I’m not 100% sure! There was a time when the goatskin had better 28gsm paper but I’m not sure what versions this applied to. I’ve had a calfskin that suffered from a bit of page curl, but I’ve got a calf split NIV here which is brilliant and doesn’t! I’d have to defer to Cambridge
Thanks for the vids. Something I struggle with don't understand and that is why they have references on the outside (or middle) rather than gutter. Its so much easier to read main text when not reading the curve into the gutter. Do you have any thoughts on this. Kind regards Martin
Yes I would agree, the gutter should not really be used for any small text! It all depends on the. I sing and layout though, sometimes the gutter is ok. By and large the simple centre column system works for me. God bless
I love my goatskin KJV Clarion. Thinking of getting a calf split NKJV. Some say that the calf split Clarion's paper is not as good. I don't mind the calf split cover for my NKJV, in fact I'd probably prefer it for that translation, but I don't want to downgrade the perfect paper. Has this been your experience?
This is what Cambridge sent me by email: Not a straightforward question to answer. In theory we do not use different paper for different bindings where the Clarion is concerned. We aim to use the best and most consistent paper that is available. Put simply we print a number of sheets for a particular translation of the edition and those sheets are used without distinction across all the binding styles (calfsplit, calfskin, goatskin etc.) However things can become more complicated over time when we might be forced to change a paper, due to non-availability or a change in the mill’s specifications.* This can sometimes mean that a new printing of a translation may use a slightly different paper than a previous printing and although we would aim to use the new printing across all binding styles, there still may be residual stock in the market place using the previous paper. But generally speaking we do not deliberately differentiate by the binding style. Hope that is useful.
@@goober8356 thank you so much for posting this! Very helpful to know! I have found differences over the years between 27 gsm vs 28 gsm paper in the Pitt minions & Clarions. It especially makes a difference in readability in the Clarions. This helps to explain why! 👏🏼👏🏼
This is what Cambridge emailed me: Not a straightforward question to answer. In theory we do not use different paper for different bindings where the Clarion is concerned. We aim to use the best and most consistent paper that is available. Put simply we print a number of sheets for a particular translation of the edition and those sheets are used without distinction across all the binding styles (calfsplit, calfskin, goatskin etc.) However things can become more complicated over time when we might be forced to change a paper, due to non-availability or a change in the mill’s specifications.* This can sometimes mean that a new printing of a translation may use a slightly different paper than a previous printing and although we would aim to use the new printing across all binding styles, there still may be residual stock in the market place using the previous paper. But generally speaking we do not deliberately differentiate by the binding style. Hope that is useful.
I personally have found a substantial enough difference between the 27 gsm vs 28 gsm in the Clarions. So much so that when I bought one with 28 gsm, it was a no brainer for me to sell my other translation with the 27 gsm. For me there was no comparison for readability. I also have the same situation with my Pitt minions but it’s not as noticeable a difference for me.
Very helpful brother I really enjoyed learning about both of these amazing bibles Thank you for sharing 😍✏📖📚
God bless sister and thank you!
Beautiful Bibles! I still wish I had smell a vision! Sorry, trying not to drool on the screen! Thanks for the comparison Brother! 😍🤗💖✝️📖
You’re very welcome! 🤤
I have ordered ESV in calf skin..in Clarion. And glad to hear font is 10.5 in regular text. I like this format.
Very Nifty Bibles
great review, thanks for sharing
Thanks sister, hopefully useful to someone interested in the Clarion! God bless.
I believe you may be mistaken about the font size. The lettering is 8.6 or whatever, and the space between the lines is 10.5 point leading. (‘Leading’ i suppose refers to the lead spacers to separate the lines of lead type in old printing methods). It’s the leading that makes this quite small font so very clear and readable.
Yes you’re probably correct!
I hear what you’re saying about cost. But: how long does the average person use a Bible? I need somebody who does daily reading not somebody who buys one and never uses it. I have around 25 Bibles, maybe more, and some of mine are a half century old One is going to use a Bible for many years say a decade or more, is the difference in price for purchase really going to make any difference amortized overtime? I want the best that I can get which is usually goatskin. I have found when I bought cheap Bibles in my youth, that every day , it irritated me that it was not a great quality. Though I can easily afford goat skin now, I would save up if I had to to afford it. I have a few luxuries in my life, but one of them is the sensual, ultra flexible feel of my favorite Bibles for daily reading . Thank you very much for this comparison. Best wishes from Texas!
Exactly! It's about an $80 difference on Amazon. Is it worth it?
hello, how are you? I've got one question is it the exact same quality of the paper in both bibles? the calf split and the goatskin leather. because that's what matters to me the most. thank you so much.
Hmm I’m not 100% sure! There was a time when the goatskin had better 28gsm paper but I’m not sure what versions this applied to. I’ve had a calfskin that suffered from a bit of page curl, but I’ve got a calf split NIV here which is brilliant and doesn’t! I’d have to defer to Cambridge
Thanks for the vids. Something I struggle with don't understand and that is why they have references on the outside (or middle) rather than gutter. Its so much easier to read main text when not reading the curve into the gutter. Do you have any thoughts on this. Kind regards Martin
Yes I would agree, the gutter should not really be used for any small text! It all depends on the. I sing and layout though, sometimes the gutter is ok. By and large the simple centre column system works for me. God bless
I love my goatskin KJV Clarion. Thinking of getting a calf split NKJV. Some say that the calf split Clarion's paper is not as good. I don't mind the calf split cover for my NKJV, in fact I'd probably prefer it for that translation, but I don't want to downgrade the perfect paper. Has this been your experience?
Hi brother, I have both and couldn’t discern a noticeable difference between the two. Nobody has complained! God bless
@@BurtonBibles thank you brother! May God bless you as well.
This is what Cambridge sent me by email:
Not a straightforward question to answer.
In theory we do not use different paper for different bindings where the Clarion is concerned. We aim to use the best and most consistent paper that is available. Put simply we print a number of sheets for a particular translation of the edition and those sheets are used without distinction across all the binding styles (calfsplit, calfskin, goatskin etc.) However things can become more complicated over time when we might be forced to change a paper, due to non-availability or a change in the mill’s specifications.* This can sometimes mean that a new printing of a translation may use a slightly different paper than a previous printing and although we would aim to use the new printing across all binding styles, there still may be residual stock in the market place using the previous paper. But generally speaking we do not deliberately differentiate by the binding style.
Hope that is useful.
@@goober8356 thank you so much for posting this! Very helpful to know! I have found differences over the years between 27 gsm vs 28 gsm paper in the Pitt minions & Clarions. It especially makes a difference in readability in the Clarions. This helps to explain why! 👏🏼👏🏼
Is there a paper quality difference between those two? Some say yes, some say no, and I'm quite confused.
Yes I believe so, a 28gsm indopaque vs a 27gsm. Not sure how much difference you’ll notice?!
This is what Cambridge emailed me:
Not a straightforward question to answer.
In theory we do not use different paper for different bindings where the Clarion is concerned. We aim to use the best and most consistent paper that is available. Put simply we print a number of sheets for a particular translation of the edition and those sheets are used without distinction across all the binding styles (calfsplit, calfskin, goatskin etc.) However things can become more complicated over time when we might be forced to change a paper, due to non-availability or a change in the mill’s specifications.* This can sometimes mean that a new printing of a translation may use a slightly different paper than a previous printing and although we would aim to use the new printing across all binding styles, there still may be residual stock in the market place using the previous paper. But generally speaking we do not deliberately differentiate by the binding style.
Hope that is useful.
I personally have found a substantial enough difference between the 27 gsm vs 28 gsm in the Clarions. So much so that when I bought one with 28 gsm, it was a no brainer for me to sell my other translation with the 27 gsm. For me there was no comparison for readability. I also have the same situation with my Pitt minions but it’s not as noticeable a difference for me.
Goatskin is a bit floppy and bit expensive for me.