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@@someoneunknown2003 hey! Place the stylus somewhere over the lead-in groove (the outer edge of your record). Just be aware that if you're too close to the edge, the stylus will miss the lead-in groove and will slip off the record surface. Also: make sure you're using the cue lever to lower the stylus rather than simply placing the stylus on the record by hand. Hope this helps
@@andrewmerritt9113 Although I've not played a 78 since the days when one of my cousins and I used to play them on my aunt's old wind-up Victrola gramophone, I do recall that we pretty much just handled them like you would any modern day record. Try to touch only the edges and/or the label and try not to touch the actual playing surface. After all, why risk getting any dirt/grime in the grooves, potentially affecting playback quality?
been taking my vinyl out the same way since i was teenager, im now 56....all play flawless still...and the number of times ive touched the surface of vinyl ive lost count
Yep, I put extra effort into handling my favorite record carefully, and as a result of tip-fingering and delicate handling, I dropped it and ran a huge scratch across one side. It's the only record I remember dropping in 15 years! Still bitter.
Since more than 52 years my LONGPLAY RECORDS preserved as you shown in your video. Today my age is + 77 years You may please advise me which record player is the best for enjoying my music system.
Bold of you to assume my hands are big enough to remove a record from the sleeve without touching the sides. -Signed a member of the tiny hands club (I’ll definitely be trying the mitts!)
I was a DJ on my college radio station in the early 1980’s. There were over 40 different DJs over the course of a week that handled both LPs and 45s. I can’t tell you how many times I observed DJs holding records by gripping the front and back playing surfaces when placing records on the turntables. There were many records in the station collection that DJs played frequently. As a result of excessive abuse, many of these records had to be replaced with new like every six months or so. Since we only played one cut of an LP at a time, DJs would handle something like 10 to 15 records per hour. Most of the records in the station were filthy. I always cleaned each record I played during my shifts the best I could before playing them. We had three turntables we had to keep cued up at all times as long as the turntables were not broken.
Good topic. For the last 30 years I have used soft cotton cloths that are used by glaziers. They are about the same size as a record cover, I never touch or handle my records bare handed.
Records are more stronger than you think, touching the playing side is not a very big deal as they clean easy but that can be your next video. Just make sure you have clean hands and short nails
I’m a DJ and mine are often dirty and in the rush partially harsh handled. If you are afraid of surface noise or skipping, then the records are stronger than you think… but if you want to keep the surface in a mint condition this is another thing. Records collect easily swirls and small scratches but these are far away from having impact on sound. A lot of my records are from around 2001 and they are in really good shape at least as far the sound quality is concerned
Yh same I am a dj records can take a beating had mine in the loft for 14 years stacked on top of each other came out all fine records are for playing enjoy 👍🏽
My wife and I keep a box of non-zipper sandwich bags on our turntable stand and use them as gloves whenever we handle our records. Our friends and family think we’re crazy but they haven’t invested the money, spent hours in the kitchen cleaning or had the hours of enjoyment we have had either 🎶😎🎶 Thanks! Going to look into the gloves, think my wife will like them.
Plus, there's nothing more satisfying than a little crackle right before the record starts playing, and if that's the risk of doing two fingers, so be it.
Thanks I wasn't sure about the vertical method for dust covers but you sold me with your no nonsense approach And I definitely wasn't sold on storing records outside their covers! But I've seen enough vertical dust covers to like it now
Thanks so much for posting this video. My Uncle Lawrence wouldn't believe me on the correct way of handling a record. He's 82yo and has just watched this video. Let's hope he improves on his record handling, as he owns well over 4,500 vinyl Records 💯👍
Thanks! You just answered my question referring to what record brush you recommend. I had asked in the comments section on another video. Audioquest it is then.
As a carbon fibre record brush yes. As a microfibre towel style brush: I use the GrooveWasher ones. Different purposes though. Thanks again for your questions and watching 🎶🎧
Excellent demonstration; and a very good, useful pad for handling vinyl! The Hudson Hi Fi Record Mitt is certainly a practical, and valuable tool for handling most records.🔉🎵🎶
I suggest NOT putting you hand inside the inner sleeve to pull the record.... you will be doing the exact same thing you are trying to avoid... you will be transferring what is on your hand onto the inside of the inner sleeve. What you should do, is gently slide the record out of the sleeve, cradling the outer edge with your free hand and supporting the record by putting your index and middle finger of the cradling hand onto the underside of the label. Then, after setting down the inner sleeve use both hands to cradle the outside edge of the label. Again, putting your hands inside the inner sleeve does the same thing as touching the playing surface of the record... you are transferring whatever is on your hand on the inside of the inner sleeve, then onto the playing surface of the record.
Was going to say the same thing. After all the emphasis of not getting your skin oils transferred to the record...you just go ahead an transfer the oil to the inside of the sleeve, which then transfers it to the record. I think I have a similar approach as you do, but perhaps different enough to mention: I take the inner sleeve in my left hand (being right-handed) by the bottom edge, and support the top edge with my right hand, then turn the sleeve top-edge-down. Then rather than removing the record from the sleeve, I more pull the sleeve off the record, which is supported in my right hand. Slowly, of course. It's not a magician's flourish. As soon as the sleeve clears the spindle hole, I place my thumb there and make sure the record is angled so that it will rest in my right hand. Then I set down the inner sleeve and carry on from there as described. As a bonus tip, all techniques will benefit from consistently placing your records with side A facing the front of the inner sleeve, and always place the inner sleeve back in the cover with the front facing...the front. If you do this consistently, and perform the record removal consistently, you will have side A facing up when placing it on the turntable. In my case, I pick up the inner sleeve with the front facing up, which puts my thumb on the side A label. Then when I use both hands it naturally goes side-B-down.
Storing records inside the jacket, over time, will produce ring wear on the front and/or back of the jacket. I’d put the record sleeve behind jacket inside the outer jacket protector.
You're going to get the same result by putting your hand in the inner sleeve, so it isn't going to matter either way. It's all about making sure your hands are clean
Those mitts are interesting! I bought my 8 year old an old record player at an auction and we went and picked up a handful of dollar records at a record store so he can play his own records (as I don't let the kids play mine). He actually cares a lot about keeping his records nice so I think I might get him those mitts to help him out :)
1. I use mitts, since I have carpel tunnel. It not only keeps the record clean, it also provides a good grip. 2. For countries that have no access to amazon, Ali Express has one that i use. Great video!
I have become lazy over time and started picking up my records with two fingers. I really should go back to how I started. I have some static free gloves I used when I worked developing 35mm film in a camera shop. I used to pop those gloves on to handle my records. Excessive maybe, but protects them.
At 1:30 I invert the sleeve and record & let gravity assist. Hand is all opened like you showed. The way I see it you've missed an opportunity to make things easier, and a as a result: greater chance of touching the playing surface
Sounds like a good extra step to me. Universally obviously everyone agrees to avoid the playing surface, but each have their own approach to that fundamental rule. Happy listening 🎶🎧
All good points, however, a few points of personal differences from me. Where the outer sleeve allows, I prefer to line up the openings so I can leave it on to protect the sleeve better. I don’t have an issue with dust getting inside the record, but this is just a personal choice. On playing and avoiding dust, I always play the record with the dust cover down. In terms of feedback to the turntable from airborne vibrations, having no dust cover at all is best. Next is having the lid down. Worst is having the lid up, as it’s perfectly placed to be agitated by the sound waves. I’ll accept the compromise as my turntable has a suspended sub-chassis and it means I never need to brush the surface to keep dust down. Also, there is no chance of accidental damage when playing. Finally, while flipping sides or changing records, I leave the platter spinning. Owners of Rega turntables will be familiar with this technique and I learnt it when I had my Planar 3. It reduces belt wear and also means records with a tight spindle hole can be placed on the platter more easily as they sort of wind on.
Thanks Mark. I hadn’t thought of it that way with the lid, interesting. Different school of thought entirely! There’s logic in that for sure. I tell you when my lid does stay firmly shut though…..when the kids are running around waving toys about 😂😬🎶🎧 Thanks for sharing and happy listening as always
Ah kids! Who’d ‘ave ‘em? My daughter challenged me to get back into records two years ago. Best thing that’s happened to my hi-fi in years. So, in answer to my own question, I would 😁
@@soundmatters For my turntable, I am REQUIRED to have the lid down to play a record, as it is a Technics linear tracking turntable and the tone arm mechanism is part of the lid.
I use a soft cloth to pull the album out of the sleeve. No way to do it the way you show without touching the record but if you can do it that way go for it
you forgot to close the cover while playing the record certainly the most important, also not everyone have big sized hand to handle them like this! Personally i use and can only use the two fingers method! Noise a starting groove aren't so bad after all, love those crackling for a few seconds, and the magic when they slowly stop before the first track start that's recall we're listening to vinyl...
@@seanmolincreative well i prefer the potentially resonance over dust! Personalty i started without cover, and had hard time having dust clean listening (my home is very dusty), then i added a cover and way better, i already have a weight (720gr) in addition on the platter plus the vinyl, and the turntable in on a big SG-9800, which in on an desk weighting 60Kg so didn't notified more resonance, plus it keep the cartridge, from sound return! I think i got a quite good setup like this, of course not as good as high one, but much better than 80% of people one! The most important from my experience was cover and weight on the platter, the 60kg support didn't improve it so much, but in case of loud listening, it will! just miss the dust arm to be complete!
@@nickbolton9149 you got it, my sl- d3 is fully automatic, so first listening is cleaning, then 2 second and third are enjoying... (yes i know it's better to leave it 24hour after a side listening, but there are plenty reissues...)
Yeah playing records on my $5,000 turntable is not a social thing for the kids they've tried this when they're very young and unsupervised and I've had to get a new stylus three times. Now the kids are grown and I have my own dedicated listening room.
Can you explain why storing records horizontally would warp them and vertically would not? It makes sense that the opposite would be true. If a record is stored horizontally or flat then the force of gravity would pull on all sides of the record evenly as to where if a record was stored vertically it would be more likely to lean to one side which would cause a greater force on one side of the record than the other which in theory should make it more likely to warp over time. Perhaps you can make an argument that if you stacked enough of them horizontally the ones on the bottom could crack over time but I would think you'd have to stack a lot of them for that to happen.
It’s more a problem when records are stacked on top of each other for long periods of time. The downward pressure causes the records lower down to become mildly dome shaped. I understand your logic though
One last note....BEFORE even playing that first album of the listening session...Wash the shit out of your hands FIRST....so the amount of oils and grease is reduced IN CASE you do end up touching it.
I don't ever put a record inside the sleeve ,even stacked upright in a shelf it will eventually show ring wear on the sleeve , especially if they are tightly packed together !
TBH, as a DJ, this isn't the easiest thing to do when half of your job is to back cue and beat match (and no, we don't use Elliptical styli for DJing due to the wear on the record - although Ortofon does make a version called Special elliptical which is supposed to be a mix between spherical and elliptical styli for DJs to use). I do handle my easy-listening records like this though.
Sound advice, however I am slightly disabled and have effectively use of one hand only so doesn't really help, although I do or have used a modified version of what you say.
is there a reason why you put your hand inside the sleeve when bringing the record out? I can only think it is done to prevent the sleeve from rubbing against the record surface, but the other side is unprotected, and arguably now rubs against that side even more. Also, I can see that method bringing dust and oil inside the sleeve I put the palm of my hand on the edge, next to the sleeve opening, and then, with the record now resting its weight on my hand, I lift the sleeve off with my middle and index finger resting on the sleeve, but where the label is. As the sleeve comes off, my fingers land on the label.
Yeah, the back of the hand still has oils. When he's reaching into the sleeve, he is depositing the oils from this hand onto the inside of the sleeve that then touches the playing surface of the record when the record is put back in. Much better to use your method.
I struggle handling records like this because my hand is small so the span from the thumb to the label means I drop my records. Are grabbing mitts a better option?
A few here and there I do find to be character. I think there's a saturation point though where it overwhelms. That level is likely different for everyone. Happy spinning - enjoy the music!
Man, I'm sorry. My hands are absolutely not big enough to remove records by that method. The pinch method has never caused any problems and makes putting the record back in the sleeve dramatically easier than you showed. I also absolutely subscribe to brushing a record twice before every play, but brushing after is overkill IMHO.
i am not sure how sticking my entire big paw inside the sleeve, which wipes against the back of my hand, and all of my fingers against the paper centre label, and then bringing the record out precariously balanced on my finger tips at risk of being dropped, is a better practice. it seems like a way to create a dirty inner sleeve and contaminate the actual playing grooves, even if i don't drop the record. instead, i simply wash my hands before a listening session and very briefly pinch the edge of the record between my thumb and forefinger for the brief moment it is being extracted from the sleeve, something i've been doing since the 1970s with no accumulated filth or noise on the lead-in to the record and no accumulated contamination of the playing grooves at any time. just wash your hands first!
"Don't stack your records..." Record shops didn't get this memo because every record store i've been to where they have shown me their back room stock, or a UA-cam video tour of a record stores back of shop has a ton of records that are stacked lol. I'm not saying it's ok to stack records. Just pointing out what i've seen IRL and online.
How do I remove a brand new record from the sleeve (if there is no parchment/tissue paper intermediary sleeve)? I find that the record sticks to the sides and comes out scratched quite often.
This is very common with new records in paper sleeves. In this case, you could try using a Milty Zero Stat.The record being in contact with the sleeve will reduce the effectiveness of the process, but it may be enough just to loosen it and avoid scratches.
@@soundmatters thank you very much. I knew it was a Technics and I knew it was a very very sharp automatic. I am still rocking my 1981 vintage SLQ3. You wouldn't have any discount codes for those would you? Lol.
I can't believe that these poor viewers are actually attempting a serious discussion on how to gently handle an outdated and flawed format! Seriously folks! Life's too short!
I understand trying to minimize dirt on the albums and stuff, but so many of these ideas are overkill. I only buy used albums that are in good condition. I can pretty much guarantee that NONE of the albums in my collection were handled like fine china and they all play perfectly fine.
The "pinch" thing drives me nuts, I see it all the time on videos of so-called pro's! I've seen numerous audiophiles do this, those oils carrying throughout the grooves will cause wear through "heat oil damage" ! Played back properly and cleaned ( by played back properly I mean , correct azimuth, correct tracking weight, and most importantly correctly aligned)! Good light tracking players properly aligned should not cause any damages over time causing wear! Those older record's were played countless times on shitty equipment and improperly handled, and most still sound pretty great! Can you imagine if you took even better care of it?
Imagine dj'ing and taking all that time to slip a record out to play it, it would be a long night, most of my records short of a crate or 5 of brand new pressings is 40+ yrs old (funk, reggae, r n b dance/house) and well spun. A good wipe w a damp microfibre cloth forward and back does me fine for 30 yrs.
I tend to think so, too, @fclefjefff4041. If you can pinch the outer edge, and with dry hands, fingers, there is not a lot of oil that can reach the first starter groove. From my experience of handling records it is still safe, for the most part. Anyway, I'm glad, and fortunate to have watched this record video.🔉🎵🎶
@soundmatters Noise you can hear? Get out. Been listening to records since the 80s and still have many from that era and they all sound fine and have not been babied beyond normal common sense to prevent scratches. PVC is not some fragile format that requires special gloves. Only noise I have on records is from the bad pressings that are done now. Quality control in modern vinyl is mediocre at best.
Original it comes with the instructions how to handle your records. What's in a record with oil can cause clever ciders. Keep records away from high heat. Read more. Do not hold records in front of electric heaters. The electric heater will melt the record. Summertime. Do not leave records in hard vehicle with the windows rolled up. It will also melt the records install your records at room temperature. Story of Rutgers and vertical position. It's much easier to browse through it with your fingers. Do not start records horizontally because they start to get heavy and then the records that's on top or slide right off. What causes records to Warp? Is the heat. What causes the stylus tip to skip towards the label or away from the label? Crepitus. Be sure to follow the manufacturer instructions on the sleeve. Do not store records and cold temperature. Hold the record by using your thumb at the trimming edge and your middle finger at the label. Hold a record on a trimming edge with both hands just like the same way to do with the recordables. Some records are thin and some records are thick. The thin records are Warp. If it skips towards the label or away from the label is most likely is the stylus. You may need to change your stylus.
It literally takes 10 seconds to clean a record, touching a record doesn't hurt it at all and if you put fingerprints on a record when handling it the fingerprints clean off with very little effort.
Proper cleaning with liquid takes a lot longer + drying time. A quick wipe with a cloth won’t effectively get rid of fingerprints. It’s not difficult to avoid touching the grooves.
@nickbolton9149 Spray record with fluid, use a dishwasher brush about 3 times around dry off with a microfiber cloth . . . Fingerprints gone, hardly anytime at all. I do this just about every day and play the record immediately.
yes yes yes , hold on the side and the label , oh damn my hands are far too small ,well good that i am becoming a jedi . jokes aside , not everyone can do that and have to use a glove .
Sadly they don’t always sound better. The mastering is often much worse on modern CDs, with horribly compressed and limited dynamics. If it weren’t I would only buy CDs as they have the potential to be much better than records.
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Do you place the needle on the very start of the record or after those first two little grooves at the start ?
@@someoneunknown2003 hey! Place the stylus somewhere over the lead-in groove (the outer edge of your record). Just be aware that if you're too close to the edge, the stylus will miss the lead-in groove and will slip off the record surface.
Also: make sure you're using the cue lever to lower the stylus rather than simply placing the stylus on the record by hand.
Hope this helps
Hello I collect 78s which are shellac do you have any tips on how to handle them
@@andrewmerritt9113 Although I've not played a 78 since the days when one of my cousins and I used to play them on my aunt's old wind-up Victrola gramophone, I do recall that we pretty much just handled them like you would any modern day record. Try to touch only the edges and/or the label and try not to touch the actual playing surface. After all, why risk getting any dirt/grime in the grooves, potentially affecting playback quality?
What turntable are you using?
I preffer to toss it like a frisby trying to hit the hole. I've gotten pretty good.
Hahahahaha
@@nickleary1982 😂
Yeah, I do it as well. It's always fun to rise the stakes by having a 93% chance of absolutely abliterating the record.
@@nickleary1982 😂
yeah all that crackle and pops is "the vinyl sound"!
been taking my vinyl out the same way since i was teenager, im now 56....all play flawless still...and the number of times ive touched the surface of vinyl ive lost count
I"m 59..and yeah...with just a little care it's amazing how good they can still sound SO many years later.
Yep, I put extra effort into handling my favorite record carefully, and as a result of tip-fingering and delicate handling, I dropped it and ran a huge scratch across one side. It's the only record I remember dropping in 15 years! Still bitter.
How do you even beatmatch without touching the surface?
Since more than 52 years my LONGPLAY RECORDS preserved as you shown in your video.
Today my age is + 77 years
You may please advise me which record player is the best for enjoying my music system.
boomers gonna boom. the willfully ignorant obstinance of that demographic will never cease to impress me.
Bold of you to assume my hands are big enough to remove a record from the sleeve without touching the sides. -Signed a member of the tiny hands club (I’ll definitely be trying the mitts!)
Lmao, me
Small hands club member here!
Same
I was a DJ on my college radio station in the early 1980’s. There were over 40 different DJs over the course of a week that handled both LPs and 45s. I can’t tell you how many times I observed DJs holding records by gripping the front and back playing surfaces when placing records on the turntables. There were many records in the station collection that DJs played frequently. As a result of excessive abuse, many of these records had to be replaced with new like every six months or so. Since we only played one cut of an LP at a time, DJs would handle something like 10 to 15 records per hour. Most of the records in the station were filthy. I always cleaned each record I played during my shifts the best I could before playing them. We had three turntables we had to keep cued up at all times as long as the turntables were not broken.
Good topic. For the last 30 years I have used soft cotton cloths that are used by glaziers. They are about the same size as a record cover, I never touch or handle my records bare handed.
Thanks for watching. Interesting to hear the technique with cotton buds. Let me know what you think of the Hudson HiFi record mitts 🎶🎧
These are just 'opinions' and can be taken to heart or passed through both ears without stopping.
Records are more stronger than you think, touching the playing side is not a very big deal as they clean easy but that can be your next video. Just make sure you have clean hands and short nails
It's not a big thing NOT to touch! You can't get your hands clean enough not to leave fingerprints on a record!
@@donny303not if you clean them often
I’m a DJ and mine are often dirty and in the rush partially harsh handled. If you are afraid of surface noise or skipping, then the records are stronger than you think… but if you want to keep the surface in a mint condition this is another thing. Records collect easily swirls and small scratches but these are far away from having impact on sound. A lot of my records are from around 2001 and they are in really good shape at least as far the sound quality is concerned
Yh same I am a dj records can take a beating had mine in the loft for 14 years stacked on top of each other came out all fine records are for playing enjoy 👍🏽
My wife and I keep a box of non-zipper sandwich bags on our turntable stand and use them as gloves whenever we handle our records. Our friends and family think we’re crazy but they haven’t invested the money, spent hours in the kitchen cleaning or had the hours of enjoyment we have had either 🎶😎🎶
Thanks! Going to look into the gloves, think my wife will like them.
Nitrile gloves work very nice
@@budsmoker4201120 actually the last time we purchased some cleaning solution we also got a few pairs of microfiber gloves, which are amazing :-)
I better use the two fingers method instead of risking your record by placing your whole grassy hand on it.
Yes, placing your whole hand over the record sounds counterproductive to me
Plus, there's nothing more satisfying than a little crackle right before the record starts playing, and if that's the risk of doing two fingers, so be it.
Thanks I wasn't sure about the vertical method for dust covers but you sold me with your no nonsense approach
And I definitely wasn't sold on storing records outside their covers!
But I've seen enough vertical dust covers to like it now
Thanks so much for posting this video. My Uncle Lawrence wouldn't believe me on the correct way of handling a record. He's 82yo and has just watched this video. Let's hope he improves on his record handling, as he owns well over 4,500 vinyl Records 💯👍
Kudos to Hudson Hi-Fi for the mitts. Great idea! Better than using a glove that might transfer static electricity.
Yea! They’re a good idea for many situations I think. Kudos indeed. Thanks for watching and commenting. Enjoy the music 🎶
Thanks!
You just answered my question referring to what record brush you recommend. I had asked in the comments section on another video. Audioquest it is then.
As a carbon fibre record brush yes. As a microfibre towel style brush: I use the GrooveWasher ones. Different purposes though. Thanks again for your questions and watching 🎶🎧
Excellent demonstration; and a very good, useful pad for handling vinyl! The Hudson Hi Fi Record Mitt is certainly a practical, and valuable tool for handling most records.🔉🎵🎶
Thanks for your kind words snd comment. Yea, I think for many folks, they’re a good idea and a nice option to have 🎶🎧
I suggest NOT putting you hand inside the inner sleeve to pull the record.... you will be doing the exact same thing you are trying to avoid... you will be transferring what is on your hand onto the inside of the inner sleeve.
What you should do, is gently slide the record out of the sleeve, cradling the outer edge with your free hand and supporting the record by putting your index and middle finger of the cradling hand onto the underside of the label.
Then, after setting down the inner sleeve use both hands to cradle the outside edge of the label.
Again, putting your hands inside the inner sleeve does the same thing as touching the playing surface of the record... you are transferring whatever is on your hand on the inside of the inner sleeve, then onto the playing surface of the record.
Was going to say the same thing. After all the emphasis of not getting your skin oils transferred to the record...you just go ahead an transfer the oil to the inside of the sleeve, which then transfers it to the record.
I think I have a similar approach as you do, but perhaps different enough to mention: I take the inner sleeve in my left hand (being right-handed) by the bottom edge, and support the top edge with my right hand, then turn the sleeve top-edge-down. Then rather than removing the record from the sleeve, I more pull the sleeve off the record, which is supported in my right hand. Slowly, of course. It's not a magician's flourish. As soon as the sleeve clears the spindle hole, I place my thumb there and make sure the record is angled so that it will rest in my right hand. Then I set down the inner sleeve and carry on from there as described.
As a bonus tip, all techniques will benefit from consistently placing your records with side A facing the front of the inner sleeve, and always place the inner sleeve back in the cover with the front facing...the front. If you do this consistently, and perform the record removal consistently, you will have side A facing up when placing it on the turntable. In my case, I pick up the inner sleeve with the front facing up, which puts my thumb on the side A label. Then when I use both hands it naturally goes side-B-down.
exactly my thoughts when watching this
Vid possible?
I agree with this comment, but you forgot the part about how easy it is to drop the record precariously balanced between your thumb and fingertips
This whole time I've been taking them out the wrong way I never realized I was damaging them thanks for the tips.
Thank you man this video will help a lot of people
Storing records inside the jacket, over time, will produce ring wear on the front and/or back of the jacket. I’d put the record sleeve behind jacket inside the outer jacket protector.
Just got a vinyl player for my birthday your videos are very helpful thank you
You're going to get the same result by putting your hand in the inner sleeve, so it isn't going to matter either way.
It's all about making sure your hands are clean
Those mitts are interesting! I bought my 8 year old an old record player at an auction and we went and picked up a handful of dollar records at a record store so he can play his own records (as I don't let the kids play mine). He actually cares a lot about keeping his records nice so I think I might get him those mitts to help him out :)
1. I use mitts, since I have carpel tunnel. It not only keeps the record clean, it also provides a good grip.
2. For countries that have no access to amazon, Ali Express has one that i use.
Great video!
I use nitrile gloves
I have become lazy over time and started picking up my records with two fingers. I really should go back to how I started. I have some static free gloves I used when I worked developing 35mm film in a camera shop. I used to pop those gloves on to handle my records. Excessive maybe, but protects them.
At 1:30 I invert the sleeve and record & let gravity assist. Hand is all opened like you showed. The way I see it you've missed an opportunity to make things easier, and a as a result: greater chance of touching the playing surface
At 3:20, you properly let gravity assist, on the way back in. (Where it's actually less needed)
Sounds like a good extra step to me. Universally obviously everyone agrees to avoid the playing surface, but each have their own approach to that fundamental rule. Happy listening 🎶🎧
The mitts are a good idea! I have smaller hands so I always struggle
Indeed: very handy!
great videos! i really enjoy your content. subbed
Thanks for the sub! Happy listening 🎶🎧
Thank you jack frags !!
This won't be the first time or last time this has been mentioned :)
You have my favourite album in the background :D
You have great taste sir 🎶🎧
@@soundmatters Thank you :)
All good points, however, a few points of personal differences from me. Where the outer sleeve allows, I prefer to line up the openings so I can leave it on to protect the sleeve better. I don’t have an issue with dust getting inside the record, but this is just a personal choice.
On playing and avoiding dust, I always play the record with the dust cover down. In terms of feedback to the turntable from airborne vibrations, having no dust cover at all is best. Next is having the lid down. Worst is having the lid up, as it’s perfectly placed to be agitated by the sound waves.
I’ll accept the compromise as my turntable has a suspended sub-chassis and it means I never need to brush the surface to keep dust down. Also, there is no chance of accidental damage when playing.
Finally, while flipping sides or changing records, I leave the platter spinning. Owners of Rega turntables will be familiar with this technique and I learnt it when I had my Planar 3. It reduces belt wear and also means records with a tight spindle hole can be placed on the platter more easily as they sort of wind on.
Thanks Mark. I hadn’t thought of it that way with the lid, interesting. Different school of thought entirely! There’s logic in that for sure. I tell you when my lid does stay firmly shut though…..when the kids are running around waving toys about 😂😬🎶🎧
Thanks for sharing and happy listening as always
Ah kids! Who’d ‘ave ‘em? My daughter challenged me to get back into records two years ago. Best thing that’s happened to my hi-fi in years. So, in answer to my own question, I would 😁
@@markcarrington8565 excellent - great to hear. Just the nudge you need sometimes 🎶🎧
@@soundmatters For my turntable, I am REQUIRED to have the lid down to play a record, as it is a Technics linear tracking turntable and the tone arm mechanism is part of the lid.
I use a soft cloth to pull the album out of the sleeve. No way to do it the way you show without touching the record but if you can do it that way go for it
you forgot to close the cover while playing the record certainly the most important, also not everyone have big sized hand to handle them like this! Personally i use and can only use the two fingers method! Noise a starting groove aren't so bad after all, love those crackling for a few seconds, and the magic when they slowly stop before the first track start that's recall we're listening to vinyl...
Technically you should remove the cover completely for sessions - the covers can introduce unwanted resonance.
@@seanmolincreative well i prefer the potentially resonance over dust! Personalty i started without cover, and had hard time having dust clean listening (my home is very dusty), then i added a cover and way better, i already have a weight (720gr) in addition on the platter plus the vinyl, and the turntable in on a big SG-9800, which in on an desk weighting 60Kg so didn't notified more resonance, plus it keep the cartridge, from sound return! I think i got a quite good setup like this, of course not as good as high one, but much better than 80% of people one! The most important from my experience was cover and weight on the platter, the 60kg support didn't improve it so much, but in case of loud listening, it will! just miss the dust arm to be complete!
yes over time the dust will do more significant damage to the sound. Better closed if you want to listen many times.
@@nickbolton9149 you got it, my sl- d3 is fully automatic, so first listening is cleaning, then 2 second and third are enjoying... (yes i know it's better to leave it 24hour after a side listening, but there are plenty reissues...)
Idk, if your hand is sliding all over the bag and then you put the record back in the bag, doesn’t that still transfer oil?
Nah, i like the pinch. Quick, easy, securem My fingers arent greasy, lay off the crisps boys.
Imagine the absolute state of Gary Lineker's record collection! :P
Yall are so British
Yeah playing records on my $5,000 turntable is not a social thing for the kids they've tried this when they're very young and unsupervised and I've had to get a new stylus three times. Now the kids are grown and I have my own dedicated listening room.
Golden tip!....(since have but 1 hand 😕😉)
Can you explain why storing records horizontally would warp them and vertically would not? It makes sense that the opposite would be true. If a record is stored horizontally or flat then the force of gravity would pull on all sides of the record evenly as to where if a record was stored vertically it would be more likely to lean to one side which would cause a greater force on one side of the record than the other which in theory should make it more likely to warp over time. Perhaps you can make an argument that if you stacked enough of them horizontally the ones on the bottom could crack over time but I would think you'd have to stack a lot of them for that to happen.
It’s more a problem when records are stacked on top of each other for long periods of time. The downward pressure causes the records lower down to become mildly dome shaped. I understand your logic though
Records should actually be stored vertically. Completely vertically. Not on an angle. This way there is no pressure and no risk of warping.
One last note....BEFORE even playing that first album of the listening session...Wash the shit out of your hands FIRST....so the amount of oils and grease is reduced IN CASE you do end up touching it.
I don't ever put a record inside the sleeve ,even stacked upright in a shelf it will eventually show ring wear on the sleeve , especially if they are tightly packed together !
Santana! 🎸
If a record only has grooves on the top side, is there any issue with handling the bottom side?
Not really in terms of playback. I'd probably still handle the edges though to avoid too much getting into the sleeve.
TBH, as a DJ, this isn't the easiest thing to do when half of your job is to back cue and beat match (and no, we don't use Elliptical styli for DJing due to the wear on the record - although Ortofon does make a version called Special elliptical which is supposed to be a mix between spherical and elliptical styli for DJs to use).
I do handle my easy-listening records like this though.
Sound advice, however I am slightly disabled and have effectively use of one hand only so doesn't really help, although I do or have used a modified version of what you say.
The record mitts might be quite handy for you
Yet a random stack of 45s w/o cases from goodwill play great
is there a reason why you put your hand inside the sleeve when bringing the record out? I can only think it is done to prevent the sleeve from rubbing against the record surface, but the other side is unprotected, and arguably now rubs against that side even more. Also, I can see that method bringing dust and oil inside the sleeve
I put the palm of my hand on the edge, next to the sleeve opening, and then, with the record now resting its weight on my hand, I lift the sleeve off with my middle and index finger resting on the sleeve, but where the label is. As the sleeve comes off, my fingers land on the label.
Yeah, the back of the hand still has oils. When he's reaching into the sleeve, he is depositing the oils from this hand onto the inside of the sleeve that then touches the playing surface of the record when the record is put back in. Much better to use your method.
My hands are too short and fat to reach the centre label and hold to edge at the same time,find it difficult to get it out of the cover
I struggle handling records like this because my hand is small so the span from the thumb to the label means I drop my records. Are grabbing mitts a better option?
Worth a go I'd say. See how you get on
I do both fingers and edges very gently
absolutely right - finger marks are a nightmare to remove from vinyl, no touching!
DJ´s: YES
Am I the only one that likes the pops and cracks? I literally got a record player because of this.
A few here and there I do find to be character. I think there's a saturation point though where it overwhelms. That level is likely different for everyone. Happy spinning - enjoy the music!
Man, I'm sorry. My hands are absolutely not big enough to remove records by that method. The pinch method has never caused any problems and makes putting the record back in the sleeve dramatically easier than you showed. I also absolutely subscribe to brushing a record twice before every play, but brushing after is overkill IMHO.
My hand will not fit inside most sleeves like that without damaging the sleeve. I use gravity to drop the record into my hand.
Nitrile gloves work nice
I have just one question, should I always place the guard back around my stylus after playing?
I wouldn't bother. Only when you're moving the turntable really as a precaution.
@@soundmatters Okay thx man, the helo is appreciated
I always insert the stylus guard after playing. Common sense tells me that this may help reduce dust buildup.
Thanks.
i am not sure how sticking my entire big paw inside the sleeve, which wipes against the back of my hand, and all of my fingers against the paper centre label, and then bringing the record out precariously balanced on my finger tips at risk of being dropped, is a better practice. it seems like a way to create a dirty inner sleeve and contaminate the actual playing grooves, even if i don't drop the record. instead, i simply wash my hands before a listening session and very briefly pinch the edge of the record between my thumb and forefinger for the brief moment it is being extracted from the sleeve, something i've been doing since the 1970s with no accumulated filth or noise on the lead-in to the record and no accumulated contamination of the playing grooves at any time. just wash your hands first!
I have the cleaning brush kit
How do you beatmatch without touching the record?
I love my old UK records.I dont touch the playing surface.I wouldnt mind trying a real time declicker.
yea I cant pull out vinyls like this cause my hand is too tiny and i cant reach the edge with my thumb really
Even me
"Don't stack your records..." Record shops didn't get this memo because every record store i've been to where they have shown me their back room stock, or a UA-cam video tour of a record stores back of shop has a ton of records that are stacked lol.
I'm not saying it's ok to stack records. Just pointing out what i've seen IRL and online.
Is that a customised Technics 1500C?
Not customised 🙂 - just with a different cartridge and a different platter mat. 👍🎶🎧
So what do u say to hip hop djs that scratch records
Different market. Not "audiophile" as such
Ive never seen so much advice im going to ignore in one video. Very impressive
What’s the point remove from outer sleeve the artwork? 😅 hard to understand, it’s pointless
How do I remove a brand new record from the sleeve (if there is no parchment/tissue paper intermediary sleeve)? I find that the record sticks to the sides and comes out scratched quite often.
This is very common with new records in paper sleeves. In this case, you could try using a Milty Zero Stat.The record being in contact with the sleeve will reduce the effectiveness of the process, but it may be enough just to loosen it and avoid scratches.
What model turntable is the black one?
Technics SL1500c 🎶🎧👍
@@soundmatters thank you very much. I knew it was a Technics and I knew it was a very very sharp automatic. I am still rocking my 1981 vintage SLQ3. You wouldn't have any discount codes for those would you? Lol.
So I pretty much have to know how to perform a colonoscopy in order to be able to handle a vinyl record.
I can't believe that these poor viewers are actually attempting a serious discussion on how to gently handle an outdated and flawed format!
Seriously folks!
Life's too short!
I can not touch the lable and hold by the thumb my hands are too small...what luck microfiber cloth it is then
I understand trying to minimize dirt on the albums and stuff, but so many of these ideas are overkill.
I only buy used albums that are in good condition. I can pretty much guarantee that NONE of the albums in my collection were handled like fine china and they all play perfectly fine.
Taking the jacket out of the protective sleeve seems counter intuitive
Agreed.
Oh my goodness... been playing records before this person was born...
Same here!
I wear a cloth disposable glove on my hand and replace it once a week.
Let's scratch like a classic dj on purpose
The "pinch" thing drives me nuts, I see it all the time on videos of so-called pro's! I've seen numerous audiophiles do this, those oils carrying throughout the grooves will cause wear through "heat oil damage" ! Played back properly and cleaned ( by played back properly I mean , correct azimuth, correct tracking weight, and most importantly correctly aligned)! Good light tracking players properly aligned should not cause any damages over time causing wear! Those older record's were played countless times on shitty equipment and improperly handled, and most still sound pretty great! Can you imagine if you took even better care of it?
Latex gloves should work. ?. Right?.
I remember when vinyl was records,& never cleaned them.
Imagine dj'ing and taking all that time to slip a record out to play it, it would be a long night, most of my records short of a crate or 5 of brand new pressings is 40+ yrs old (funk, reggae, r n b dance/house) and well spun. A good wipe w a damp microfibre cloth forward and back does me fine for 30 yrs.
Great. Not a guide aimed at DJs, of course. Happy spinning
I think most people would say reaching inside the sleeve is overkill and there’s nothing wrong with pinching the record by the edge ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Each to their own. I find it starts to introduce more noise at the start of the record. Enjoy the music
I tend to think so, too, @fclefjefff4041. If you can pinch the outer edge, and with dry hands, fingers, there is not a lot of oil that can reach the first starter groove. From my experience of handling records it is still safe, for the most part. Anyway, I'm glad, and fortunate to have watched this record video.🔉🎵🎶
@soundmatters Noise you can hear? Get out. Been listening to records since the 80s and still have many from that era and they all sound fine and have not been babied beyond normal common sense to prevent scratches. PVC is not some fragile format that requires special gloves. Only noise I have on records is from the bad pressings that are done now. Quality control in modern vinyl is mediocre at best.
Amen to the bad pressing...had to return Miles "Kind of Blue" 3 times, freaking ridiculous! @@AG-bp3ll
Would wearing a suede glove help if I wanna do the lazy way?
I prefer to bend it a bit before playing
Biggest issue I see is a Plastic Inner Sleeve! Static hell awaits. (Slayer, 1985)
Original it comes with the instructions how to handle your records. What's in a record with oil can cause clever ciders. Keep records away from high heat. Read more. Do not hold records in front of electric heaters. The electric heater will melt the record. Summertime. Do not leave records in hard vehicle with the windows rolled up. It will also melt the records install your records at room temperature. Story of Rutgers and vertical position. It's much easier to browse through it with your fingers. Do not start records horizontally because they start to get heavy and then the records that's on top or slide right off. What causes records to Warp? Is the heat. What causes the stylus tip to skip towards the label or away from the label? Crepitus. Be sure to follow the manufacturer instructions on the sleeve. Do not store records and cold temperature. Hold the record by using your thumb at the trimming edge and your middle finger at the label. Hold a record on a trimming edge with both hands just like the same way to do with the recordables. Some records are thin and some records are thick. The thin records are Warp. If it skips towards the label or away from the label is most likely is the stylus. You may need to change your stylus.
It literally takes 10 seconds to clean a record, touching a record doesn't hurt it at all and if you put fingerprints on a record when handling it the fingerprints clean off with very little effort.
Proper cleaning with liquid takes a lot longer + drying time. A quick wipe with a cloth won’t effectively get rid of fingerprints. It’s not difficult to avoid touching the grooves.
@nickbolton9149 Spray record with fluid, use a dishwasher brush about 3 times around dry off with a microfiber cloth . . . Fingerprints gone, hardly anytime at all. I do this just about every day and play the record immediately.
Well most cardboard sleeves around the record don't allow you to stick a full hand in
An alternative is to part the card to avoid it scratching the surface and then let gravity do the hard work.
or just don’t use cardboard sleeves that can scratch and use replacement sleeves as in the video.
Definitely was useful because I was doing everything you said not to do in this video. 😩
wow, give yourself a pat on the back. what a load of information.
😂 intended for newbie’s of course. Happy spinning 🎶🎧
Specialist in taking the record out of the sleeve. 😂
I like to keep my records in the sun, open so I can always grab it easily and I clean it with water and soap
:) a true audiophile
yes yes yes , hold on the side and the label , oh damn my hands are far too small ,well good that i am becoming a jedi .
jokes aside , not everyone can do that and have to use a glove .
If you are a DJ this goes out the window. You need to touch the record.
This i why I'll never go back to vinyl. & CD's just sound better
Sadly they don’t always sound better. The mastering is often much worse on modern CDs, with horribly compressed and limited dynamics. If it weren’t I would only buy CDs as they have the potential to be much better than records.
This is the same level of pedantic that makes everyone dislike gatekeepers.
Records are Pain!
And not for the penny pinchers...lol! 🤣
Not everyone has big hands mate…
That aint laserdisc or cd. If djs would do that they wouldn't have time for beatmatching. Im new but vinyls aren't that delicate
Just get a vinyl gripper, they cost like 10€
I have short stubby fingers.