This is a wonderfully grounded take on vinyl. It really is an enthusiast thing you do for fun. "The two things that really drew me to vinyl were the expense and the inconvenience"
For those looking to get in vinyls my recommendation is to go secondhand on your table. You can get some AMAZING tables for cheap if you're willing to maybe replace the needle or something like that. I got an amazing Technics sl-1200 from the 70s for like 80$CAD last summer only had to replace the needle.
I bought a second hand turntable. The very first time I plugged it in, the biggest capacitor in it blew. Smoke went everywhere. No immediate replacements existed anymore. So I sold it back to the original owner at a loss.
if you buy a second hand fully automatic turntable you might need to replace more than just the needle. but even then. it's a simple repair. just a little rubber nub to get the automatic stuff working again :D
I second this, I got a Dual 606 and a Technics 3210, apart from changing the fuse on my Dual and modifying my Technics for 78 rpm they had absolutely no problems at all
It's very much for discovering music unless you only listen to 'brand-new' stuff all the time. For those who listen to stuff from the vinyl-dominant era, there's way more than one lifetime of records to hear, and lots of them sat in collections where they were played once or never, and many of them are under $5.
Old comment, but I recently got into vinyl collecting and for me it's definitely about discovering music. Some tracks I like were only released on vinyl. And digging through tracks in the record store and listening to them; I can say I've already discovered a few gems.
What you said at 6:08 is so accurate, I recentley refurbished a walkman and I find myself listening to whole cassettes of music that I'd skip on spotify. It really does make you appreciate the art more
This is why I listen to vinyl, cassettes and CD's. Like you said, it really made me appreciate albums more, even though I still also use Spotify I listen to whole albums a lot more. Then I got vinyl at home, Walkman on the go and CD's in the car.
Same here. I have NEVER been the type of person to enjoy albums in full. I take songs i like from them and put them in my favorite playlists and forget about the other songs. But when i picked up vinyl, i really felt like i was able to sit down and appreciate everything.
Except walkmans can skip tracks... They literally have a whole thing for it... It's called AMS... Most walkmans have that since Sony invented the tech... I mean most Vinyl players post 1970 could skip tracks as well... anyone that's watched enough techmoan should know that by now. They basically work that when it goes onto a song you dont like you press "next" and it goes to the next chunk of silence.
@@CKDD83245 I know, there are some players that do have little windows on them. Like I said, specifically top-loader models are likely to have these. I have yet to see a tray-loading player to have one, though.
9 months ago this video made me decide NOT to get into vinyl because it would sure as hell ruin me financially. 2 months ago I got into vinyl anyway and it ruined me financially, but it was worth every cent I've wasted so far, and every cent I still have to waste on it
As a photographer, I've had nearly this same experience within my own world of analogue vs digital- it's super interesting to see nearly all the same points I've found made, but in another medium
Not a photographer, but I've gained interest in shooting film recently, shot my first roll and experienced something that I did not grow up with, the value of pictures. You have 36 exposures, that's it, every shot will be set up meticulously to do it correctly, you are more mindful to what you are shooting for real. This is only my first roll, and I'll hopefully get it from developing from the lab this week, but I sure do hope and will try to shoot more, amazing feeling.
I’ve been listening to vinyl my whole life, and built up my own collection (including MUSE’s discography). Everything got destroyed in a flood in 2020, and I was absolutely gutted. Some of the vinyl itself was saved, but all the paper was destroyed.
Stay safe buddy! I hope you can take that as an opportunity to start fresh. Materials don't last and that's ok, I believe that as long as you remember the fun times and value it that's all that matters.
I've been collecting vinyl records for about 3 years now, and it's been incredibly fun doing so. And this video does an excellent job getting into the nitty gritty of vinyl playing & collecting.
Aye! It's daniel T. I've been watching since the mario undertale days. I remember when you kept trying to convince everyone you were a pyro clone. Good shit man
Quick notes on old vs. new vinyl. Old vinyl really varies in sound quality. Year can play into it, vinyl made during the oil crisis in the mid-70's can be a bit spottier because more discs were being pressed from reused vinyl, therefore if you're picking up a disc from that era from your local record store, it could very well sound like shit. However, certain pressing plants, such as Monarch records, Columbia's Santa Maria plant, certain pressing plants in the UK, Germany, Italy, and Japan, used higher quality vinyl formulation which lead to thicker and higher quality records. Mosy of the time. And see that's the big crux with older vinyl, it wasn't necessarily made cheaply, but it was produced in far greater quantities back then, meaning certain discs just werent't going to turn out as well for some reason and slip through QC. Especially if you get discs near the end of a stamper's life, it can sound worse. And then once they made new stampers, you get into the issue of represses, generally produced from copy tapes, which obviously have some generational loss. Some of the best sounding records I own are from the 60's, 70's, and 80's (ELP debut first UK pressing, Trick of the Tail first UK pressing, Moonglow by Tatsuro Yamashita, Fragile first UK pressing, etc.) But also some of the very worst sounding records I've heard were pressed in the same exact era. It really varies. When vinyl started to make a resurgence, think 2012 or 2013, these record companies needed to sort of relearn how to press good vinyl, and in addition were dealing with decades old, worn out machinery and masterings that were generally the brick-walled, super-compressed digital masters in use at the time. Because of this, newer vinyl was pretty bad for awhile, but soon you started to get companies like Analogue Productions and Music Matters (along with veterans like Classic Records and MoFi) putting out higher quality 180g and 200g releases from original master tapes, or very high quality digital transfers (digitally sourced vinyl is not inherently bad, in fact if the source is a high quality digital transfer it can sound fantastic). In the years since, more pressing plants have opened up, restored their tooling, and hired genuinely great cutting engineers so that we now have pretty consistent quality. Normal mass-market releases still don't compare to the audiophile releases coming out today, but they are consistently satisfactory to the point where I can buy a new album on vinyl and know it will probably sound pretty good with minimal QC issues, which was not the case even 6 or 7 years ago.
Not to mention that even if you do manage to find a perfectly pressed, well mastered, virgin vinyl disc from back in the day, it only took some lunkhead forgetting one time to flip the stylus on their BSR from "78" to "LP", or to simply play it with a very worn down needle, and suddenly the record sounds like trash no matter what the matrix numbers say. The longer a record has been around, the more opportunity there's been to damage it, and the damage isn't always apparent just by looking at it. I'd estimate that at least 30% of my older vinyl has at least a little bit of damage from the previous owner.
@@BokBarber This is true, especially on inner grooves. I find UK pressed records tend to be the most consistently problematic since a lot of great cuts by people like George Peckham were very hot, and thus were hard for cheaper record players to handle, thus causing repeated mistracking and groove damage. Japanese vinyl from the era tends tl be very consistently high quality and very good condition.
@@aidanb4477This makes allot of sense. I don't have too much experience with overseas records, just a few here and there, but I definitely believe this. My experience in America is a mixed bag, but the two general rules of thumb seem to be 1) the younger the intended audience for the record, the better the chance it's been beaten up and 2) going back any farther than 1970 greatly increases the risk of damage. My handful of original Beatles records follow this to a 'T': their first few records targeted preteens who apparently played them with shards of broken glass. These are damaged as a rule. Their middle albums like "Rubber Soul" and the white album have some damage but are much more listenable. Their last albums like "Let It Be" and "The Beatles Again", closing out the decade and targeting twenty-somethings, have the least damage of all.
@@BokBarber Target audience is an interesting consideration I hadn't thought of but it makes a lot of sense. Increased risk of damage on records earlier than 1970 also makes a lot of sense, as record players tracked at much higher tracking forces and generally used sapphire styli, which would wear out quickly and start to damage the record after being worn out enough. Once better quality record players from Technics, Pioneer, Dual etc. began to become available at lower prices records started to wear out a lot less.
I just love your enthusiasm for music. I used to devour whole albums at a time and really take it all in. Haven't done that in years, but your enthusiasm is contagious.
I love my vinyls. I inherited my dads old collection, and he was a music freak. If I were to listen to every record in a row, it would take three solid months. And every single one is different, not just is what is on them, but they in how they sound. They have skips and pops and scratches in different places. Some are heat warped, some aren’t. Some sound better at 33 then they do at 45. Some have been purposefully warped to create an endless loop of one song. Some of them date back to the late 40’s, and some were made in the late 1990’s It’s just magical having a piece of history that you can actually listen to. Something that has been held by dozens of people that have been listened to for decades. And every single one has a story.
I don't own records. I own a collection of Edison diamond discs. Those are true ancient pieces of history. One of the oldest media formats, meant to compete with the first vinyl records. I got the discs from my great grandmother, and the player was actually found at a thrift store I volunteered at. The strangest coincidence led to the strangest piece in my audio setup
@@Henk8118 Please don't purposely damage your or your dad's records like this lol. What an odd thing for that guy's dad to do. If my dad just wanted one song, he bought a single or recorded the song to a tape.
@@Henk8118 yeah, it’s got a little heat bubble where someone held a lighter under it. It’s not perfect and it does skip a couple seconds here and there, but it works! I wouldn’t recommend doing it these days since records aren’t produced as widely anymore. But apparently back in the 70’s and 80’s when they were more vastly produced it was fairly common if you couldn’t afford a single, you just warped an album.
I've been collecting vinyl since high school, because it truly felt like I owned the music, and I really like how they made a comeback today since they're more accessible now. I hated ordering limited edition vinyl online and UPS destroying it though. RIP to that Frank Ocean Blonde vinyl, you'll be missed :(
My neighbor, four years older than me has 600+ records. I love classic rock, but I also like new music. I hope he can get Porter Robinson & Madeon - Shelter (2016) on vinyl, cos those '80s synths would go well with the warm vinyl crackles. I found the song on YT a few months ago, and it sounds so ahead of its time. :) The cost though, $280? R u kidding me brother? That costs more than a new iPod, or a new Android. Capitalism my guy, it succs sometimes. Also, UPS sucks major butt. They sometimes never deliver on time, they break stuff, like your record (and also expensive kitchenware), and they now apparently charge for 13% surcharge due to rising fuel prices ($4.50/gal here in the US for diesel). The CEO Carol Tome has $141 million bucks as of 3/8/22, can't he pay for the fuel. Lol... I am so glad I don't buy stuff online or ship stuff. There is an official webpage for UPS rants, can you guess the title?
I like how he gets so much wrong... Like "fold out" ... oh... Not Gatefold. They were mass made and that's why they were poor... Oh not the technology improved and you got different grades... There were even movies on vinyl towards the end... But okay. Bless him. Like he called it needle... Not a stylus. A needle. Bless. I wouldn't mind but I have only just finished Uni so yeah... Tells you that perhaps it isn't an age thing... Just an awareness thing. I think if he heard a white label it would blow his mind.
And technically if you get a White Label you do own it. It's like the master. People Just Do Nothing do a BAFTA masterclass where they talk about how hard it was to get music for the show because in their genre (old school garage and D&B) a lot of the music is underground and so many white labels that nobody knows who owns what and so the BBC blanket licence didn't cover them so they ingeniously remixed the songs enough for it to be classed as their own artistic interpretation.
What I’m picking up, vinyl is like classic muscle cars. Inefficient, expensive, beyond obsolete, but *so. much. character* that it’s fun to have around anyway.
No it is very affordable to get into, please do not think this. Unless you are living paycheck-to-paycheck, Vinyl is absolutely a collecting hobby people can get into and record players do not cost a lot. Even then I was still able to pick up a record periodically. You got it partially wrong and I don't want the 100+ people liking your comment to grow with people thinking you got the right take. It's more like straight up choosing a car. You are going to get to your destination either way regardless of the car you pick up: - You CAN go for the higher-end 2023 Lexus 500 IS for starting at over $75,000. - You CAN go for the absolutely affordable and genuinely a good all-around car to drive 2023 Honda Civic that starts at $28,750. Unless you specifically know the differences between the Lexus and the Honda, both are going to drive. They are cars. They drive. Beep Beep. Go to school, pick up some food, get a hooker, anything you need for a car can be done by both cars. One just looks and sounds better doing it. Hell, if you even want to make even more of a car analogy, go to a pawn shop, they have record players. GUARANTEED. I personally have a Victrola record player I purchased because I liked vinyl. Plays all records at all speeds, connects to Bluetooth and has it's own internal (trash) speakers. When connected to speakers, I can't tell the difference between that and any other model. It plays amazing every single time, $85.99 off Amazon. Vinyl isn't expensive if you have a tiny bit of disposable income. If it is "too expensive", you don't have disposable income, sorry.
@@DamienDarkside no. stop telling people to spend money on stupid, frivolous bull shit. it is NOT affordable to get into, anything 'affordable' in terms of hardware is going to fuck your vinyl's. get into vinyl when you got money to burn, shit get a damn good pair of audiophile headphones or some bitchin' speaker monitors instead. VINYL IS A MUSIC MONEY SINK, STOP IT, YOU DORK.
"Beyond obsolete" -- huh? Regular obsolete would mean 'no longer in production and rarely used' but records and players are still being made, never went out of production, and have seen a substantial uptick in popularity recently. 'Beyond obsolete" doesn't even describe 'making fire by hand' accurately'.
@@Vacated204 Of course not, but in this case, they do seem to have stripped it down to the minimum necessary functions and dialed them in as much as possible. Sure it's still overpriced but I can't blame them considering how willingly audiophiles throw money at equipment like this. For what it's worth being a belt-drive isn't necessarily a bad thing. A thin round belt like this is probably the most reliable method to uncouple as much vibration as possible from the platter, something that would be absolutely unavoidable with direct drive or a toothed belt. If the difference between a very small amount of vibration and close to none makes an appreciable difference to the sound quality though I couldn't say.
I can say. That minute amount of vibration masks the ambiance, the softest harmonics, the breath of the performer. However, for albums by Metallica and Judas Priest, I doubt if it makes much difference after all…😂
The only thing that interests me personally about vinyl is the big beautiful album covers, that actually display the album art properly and large enough that you can see it and appreciate it. But buying vinyls just for the cover is silly and wasteful, and just having a collection of covers with no vinyls is like collecting barbie dolls without the heads, it's just weird. So maybe one day I will get a turntable and try it out, LOL
for me at least, i buy it to show support for smaller artists i like who will probably not get or have many people having their vinyl. also to flex how epic and definitely not how bad i am with money lmao
@@socialchum I throughly believe my vinyl collection is a testament to how stupid I am with my money. I mean, I love that I have them. And I can proudly say that I have some rare discs. But they they’re what I call a ‘stupid money’ purchase. After I’ve paid my bills, after I’ve bought food n shit, I let myself have some money I can be stupid with. Which is why I have a box set of Walt Disney’s Fantasia from the ‘50s.
@@puffitale my proudest stupid vinyl is probably the talking heads self titled record. people say the cover's ugly but it's uglier in real life, even though i love it
@@socialchum Cool! My Fantasia set has beautiful watercolour artwork that’s different from the typical Sorcerer’s Mickey that they now use everywhere, plus it has a recreation of the Deems Taylor booklet that they gave out when the movie was first release. Due to its age, it looks like absolute dogshit, but it was the first piece of music I ever fell in love with, so I have to have it.
I had a fanboy moment at the Absolution album you showed. It’s an all time favorite of mine, so it was really cool to see the inside of the vinyl cover for it
YES! Exactly. I found myself listening to the whole album, start to finish, when bought my first vinyl record. It's totally different, it's like throwback to childhood when you buy a casette tape, and it says "Toxicity" on it, and you don't have any clue what the hell this band is sounds like, but record store guy assured you that it is freakin' amazing. And you listen to it. Over and over again, start to finish. I think I started appreciating music a lot more with vinyl. This is the point. Neither the sound nor it's "warmth" (although it kinda warm, yeah)
"It's like a campfire". Man, you are *good* with words. Now I want to have some guests over for a nice conversation around a spinning vinyl. Playing soft instrumental music, of course.
Just like you said, digital for the most of it but vinyl for those exquisite albums that just stop your world in its tracks. Don't care how bad it sounds, it's a whole experience. The album art, the smell, the fell of the disk, the heartbeat just before you release that needle and then bliss...
Also the whole thing about operating the player. It's about being fun, not about sounding better. Same as what I do with CDs (...no space for anything else at home frankly), compared to just playing the .FLAC file. Frankly the same can be said about any physical medium for anything. It's just a heck lot more fun (plus, actually having it with you without being dependent on Internet or the benevolence of companies allowing you to use what you paid for).
Yes, yes... I do enjoy a splendid tranquil evening of pouring myself some chardonnay, putting on my favorite vinyl record, and sitting down in my robe to listen to the subtle expert notes of Guerilla Radio.
I grew up with vinyl in the 70s and, like so much of my formative years, while I have fond memories -- snapping off the shrink wrap, opening up the gatefold sleeve, admiring the artwork and reading the liner notes -- I happily moved on when the time came. Yes, you nailed it, by the late 70s, the discs were thin and cheaply made (Japanese imports were the much sought-after thing) and it didn't help that I could only afford the shittiest second hand record player with an arm so heavy the needle dug out the grooves as it went along. I have no desire for the cracks, the pops and skips inherent in the format (one album I had -- ELO's debut -- had a skip so ingrained that I was amazed when I eventualy heard the missing middle eight that had been hidden from me for so long). As time went on, into the 80s, it got even worse and I understand the record companies were complicit in forcing consumers to move to the CD format by making the vinyl as cheap and shoddy as possible, filling it even with cardboard. I got two vinyl records in the mid-80s that I had to return immediately, as they had chips in them when I took them out of their sleeves. I love CDs -- I still do, really, and the fact that I don't have to get up and turn the disc over for the second side is a big plus, and once they got their act together and stopped bunging out inferior CD copies of albums just for the dosh and realised that they actually had to put some effort into it, they were great. Then I started ripping them into MP3s, then OGGs, then lossless FLACS for my portable music player that I carry with me, and live in wonder that the albums I once marveled the artwork for and listened on a scratchy turntable in my little bedroom, I can now listen to in perfect fidelity on the go, on the train or the tube or anywhere in my house. I've even started downloading high-res editions of old classics, and bask in the sonic beauty. (but I don't stream -- no no no). Meanwhile, my granddaughter just turned 13 years old, and her main request for a present? A record player. My wife and I gave her a pile of our old vinyl as a starter kit.
@@joeyxl8712 what does that have to do with what he’s talking about lmfao. mans just wrote one of the most wholesome youtube comments i’ve ever read and the one reply is the most random thing i’ve ever heard
@@joeyxl8712 I originally ignored your response 'cos I didn't see the relevance, but I should have answered, and apologise for the delay. I have absolutely no memory of Voyager 1 being launched, but I'm guessing I might have seen it.
I've been collecting vinyl records since 2018 I've now got a collection of around 500 and counting. For me it brings the fun and more personal connection to the music since you have to pay attention or you'll damage it.
@@Orcastruck I find it kinda funny the thing vinyl music lovers used to say about CDs is what people love about vinyl now. Back in the day when CD was first being adopted people used to put CDs down because of how fragile a CD was, stating that vinyl was much tougher and harder to damage and therefore better. Now people are taking this former negative as a positive. It's interesting the shift in perspective that 30 years can bring. I think vinyl is a great way to listen to music, especially to hear something in a different mood/vibe.
Omg, where did you get that many albums? I've been into this since 2016 and I only have like 15 lol (Well, they are quite expensive in my country so...)
1:39 Gotta love how Avid charge more than 2 grand for a turntable and they could only muster up one of the cheapest Audio-Technica cartridges you can find (the AT3600L) to bundle in with it lol
welcome to in-person audio shops, frankly. these are the same places that upcharge the snot out of HDMI cables when doing custom installations just because the customers in that price bracket will barely notice the $9k extra hit.
While it may demonstrate the competence of the cartridge, it is still a letdown! Conical stylus and a lower output than some cartridges. That table is crying out for an MC cartridge with an exposed cantilever. Something dainty and graceful.
"Absolution" was such an amazing album. It also marked the end of the era where I could tell people that the best unknown band I'd ever heard was Muse.
Definitely a top 5 album for me, also up there is Black Holes and Revelations. I remember when muse were in a battle of the bands thing in Exeter, and lost.
One of my reasons for listening to vinyl, on top of the fun aspects like the experience and the artwork, is that I can support my favorite artists since I know music streaming services aren't helping them thrive
exaclty this. all the vinyl i have, i can listen on spotify but actually knowing I supported an artist I enjoy, gives the music another layer. Also it's so fun when you managed to get limited editions. Knowing you're 1 in a 1000 (for example) that have that specific record is pretty cool
SOMETHING TO NOTE WITH VINYL due to the nature of the disc, you can't spat a loud CD master onto it without it causing problems. this can lead to some records sounding "better" because the mastering is calmer. a caveat of this is that a lot of pressing plants/ labels aren't very transparent if they've handled mastering themselves, or if it's just an EQ'd version of the digital/ CD master. my favourite part of vinyl is tracking down original presses and AAA records, those can sound really special. It's a super deep rabbit hole to go down, but a very cool one. fanx danks, this is a good video (as usual)
Partially true, but there are many instances of compressed CD transfers to vinyl. The medium distorts the sound into what looks like a "dynamic" waveform, but it's still the same audio
@@jimmymcgill2961 It is, especially since there's not a massive "FIRST PRESS" on the disk. Sometimes you can deduct it from some number on the cover, but there's often no way to know if the cover still contains the original disk, it might have been replaced in those 50 years. So you'll basically have to research how to spot the differences per album
I wrote an essay in philosophy class (yeah, I know) about technology's impact on our lives and I singled out on that exact thing you're describing with how vinyl "forces" you to go away with the skipping and overall more "throw-away" nature of digital. Objectively there is no reason why one should prefer Vinyl over digital, there is no reason companies couldn't just release the "vinyl mix" of their records on a lossless file format, but the physicality of vinyl still makes it great. Even more now than ever, as our lives become increasingly fast paced and our online existence ever more esoteric, vinyl really does a great deal in grounding you in reality and I think it's obvious why it's seen such a major resurgence.
Mate I'm proud of you. I've been into vinyl for years and it always warm my heart seeing somebody else give it a go! _But nothing beats that warm, clammy feeling you get from the first time you wear it._
I got into vinyl semi recently, and all I can say is: I LOVE THE SPIN. Sounds good, fun to own physical music on cool records, and it spins. So Perfect
@@Orcastruck Yeah, I bought a picture disc 45 of Anthrax's "I Am the Law" used many years ago. I was super excited to listen to it, but it was really scratchy. I cleaned it and cleaned it, but was a basket case. $5 bucks down the drain? Hardly! It's got a badass picture of Judge Dredd on it, and the disc *is* the album cover, so I just display the disc.
@@Orcastruck Yeah and you can sell it later when it's worth more or you don't want it anymore, unlike selling your soul to Spotify which goes away the second you stop paying them. What I fear is my records getting stolen or damaged, if that were to happen I would be so devastated that I would quit collecting. Some I would never be able to find again or would be very expensive. At least digitally I wouldn't lose anything if something were to happen to my phone or PC.
I always had vinyl at home, my dad was a big fan. I remember being super excited the first time he let me use it, because it was absolutely drilled in to my brother and I that it was no joke and easy to destroy. Felt like I'd grown up being able to swing that arm.
I had the exact opposite experience. My mother treated most of her old records like yesterday's garbage in the 90s (why should she care about records when CDs were the future) so she let me play with them like toys. I had a cheap portable record player and for sure ruined some discs, but the exposure eventually lead me to collect records later in life.
The thing you said about setting time away for things is SO applicable. I do the same with things which have WAY less overhead than vinyl- cassettes, CDs, heck even reel to reels if thats your jam! Anytime i want to experience music- mainly with CDs (because im dragging my feet on replacing the needle in my record player), i grab a cd, and sit down with it and listen. Because that little bit of extra work just feels good.
One of my earliest memories is being in the basement, playing "Home on the Range" again and again on my parents' old victrola. I wonder if they still have the disk....
my grandparents have a turntable and i always think about seeing it and being curious about it. and here i am 10+ years later, a vinyl collector and listener myself
I wish he connected the headphones to the vinyl player and used "The freakish ears on a stick" to let us listen to the vinyl while he had a split screen showing us the vinyl go round in circles, woulda been an amazing experience, great video DankPods :)
"It's not about sound quality, it's about vibe quality" correct. This is why I collect audio cassette tapes. I need the grainy staticy hum and mechanical noises over the top of my music. Pure 100% top lo-fi vibe quality. And yes, like you, I only collect my faves on tape. Great video!
Funny how the shitty cassette players end up having stronger vibe quality. I have a d6c (hand me down, I'm not rich) and with dolby c noise reduction the thing sounds like a cd
The fun in cassettes for me is how wildly the quality varies. For a fraction of the price an LP costs these days, you can roll the dice on a tape and get sound quality that's anywhere between absolutely wrecked and the cleanest thing you've ever heard. I have a Doobie Brothers tape that sounds better thru my late 70s analog rig than FLACs in my modern digital rig.
@@ratman262 It's hilarious how right you are about that. I picked up a few new (to me) tapes the other day, and they ran the gamut from literally unplayable garbage-like they actually slowed the player to a stop-to ones so crisp I heard new parts of music I'd head dozens of times before. It's like a musical slot machine.
I agree, i have a sony tc-rx311 which is a lower end machine but with some nice type iis and dolby c on its close enough to digital that a lot of the time i forget im listening to a cassette lol
I’m glad he got into vinyl now because back then, their self titled album was only available as a bootleg vinyl. I don’t think Dankpods would’ve liked that lol
@@dalemau5 Meanwhile I grabbed a copy of their self-titled CD, _forgot to pay for it_ and played that in my XBOX while blasting in Quantum Redshift. No alarms, no fuss, no nothing. Just walkin' out with a CD.
Honestly the biggest reason I got into vinyl was to experience my fav albums in entirely different ways, but it was those beautiful massive album covers and artwork that really make me love it. And to hold my favorite music in my hand really is mesmerizing.
Thank you for explaining exactly my same opinion on vinyl, my favorite albums I buy in vinyl have been electronic music made in the digital age but due to the mixing is just a separate experience, and physically taking care of music is a cathartic experience
Your point about the fussiness is so spot on! I love the way vinyl makes me appreciate an album as a whole a lot more, and searching through the cabinet for whats going to be next instead of just shuffling through my playlist. Same goes for all kinds of stuff, got rid of my Nespresso pod machine for a manual setup with grinder, manual espresso machine, etc. I love taking time for the things I love to experience it better and in the end making me happier. It's not all about fast and easy for many people anymore.
He also has a copy of the self-titled album and Toxicity on cassette in his other channel's video about a metal band shooting a video in his warehouse.
@@ronbali3429 I know. Genocidal Humanoids sounded like it could have been on their first record, and Protect the Land sounded like it was off Mezmerize/Hypnotize. I'm thankful for at least those tracks, but a full album would be amazing. Daron Malakian recorded some songs he wrote for the next potential SOAD album, and they're on his second record, Dictator. Unfortunately, Serj doesn't want to record any more albums with System. I'm lucky to have seen them live in 2015 and 2019, and they were incredible. Just wish they'd hit the studio together again.
I just recently found a vinyl player (Dual CS 721 „Made in Germany“) on the rooftop of my parents house, and my dad allowed me to take it with me and told me that he got it for pretty cheap from a friend when he studied in Hamburg. Now I have already 9 Vinyls and all of them I got for a price of 2€ to 5€ at some second hand shops in my town.
Also the opposite: buy the digital, get the physical by paying shipping. Yes, I know there's more costs involved, but damn lack of the physicals even existing for some stuff is sad.
One time I bought a new record from the store, released a year prior. I was really hyped because it had a huge hype sticker saying "THIS COMES WITH WAV DOWNLOAD CODES!!" and... it actually did! ...but they were expired. Nothing crushes the soul quite like it.
I stray far, far away from cassettes just because of how fragile and self-destructive they are. Vinyl records tend to have a good life span if you take good care of them. Tapes, by comparison, wear out more quickly over time, even if you don't touch them for years. Maintenance is also pretty much out the window since you can't spot clean them like vinyl, lest they suffer water damage. It's like a built-in self-destruct sequence that you can't do a thing about.
Records like that hold a special place in my heart. For years I used a Newcomb record player in my warehouse when I got sick of using my headphones. I ended up selling it and my record collection when I lost my job and fell on hard times at the start of 2021. Things are looking up but i miss that record player and my Marty Robbins album most of all.
I've actually started using vinyl to discover new music. If I see an album cover that interests me or a coloured record, I pick it up. Found some great artists that I'm not sure I would've discovered otherwise.
When I was in college I used to close my eyes and buy a random record out of the "new releases" bin every month or so. It was honestly a great way to discover new music. I think that's how I first heard the Fleet Foxes.
@@BokBarber Great recommendation. I'll definitely get them on the to-buy list. Check out Black Pumas or Superfood if you haven't heard them already. Two that I hadn't heard of prior to owning their LPs.
II do the same. My local record store, Orbit Music, has a section of vinyl that's 25 cents for the EPs and singles, and 50 cents for the LPs. It's all the records he gets that don't have covers, sometimes messed up labels, or maybe they have a skip or two. I'll go in about once a month, spend about $5, and sometimes he'll even let me grab like 2-3 extras for free. I always find at least 2-3 records that I enjoy. Occasionally, I find one that I enjoy enough to buy a better copy of.
This is the exact same reason I love my 1970's Sony reel to reel tape recorder. Excellent sound quality and I get to see two discs spin slowly around and VU meters dancing to the bass.
I just took 3 tests this morning and I just finished. I’m tired and stressed but one thing that makes me going is your Chanel! Thank you DankPods. - PS I live in New Zealand 🇳🇿 Country Neighbors!
I got into vinyl a couple years ago, I only buy 180 gram albums because They feel better in the hand. There’s just something magical of watching the needle hit the vinyl, it truly is a beautiful way to listen to your favorite songs. I can’t tell a difference in the quality from my computer, something about holding the music in your hands makes it feel different
Hell yeah! I've been into vinyl for summat like five years now, and it's all because of the experience and the collector's satisfaction value for me. I love laying a beautifully pressed disc on the turntable then kicking back on the couch to just listen to it without doing anything else.
Watching this makes me realize the similarities between Audio and Photography. Most people know digital pictures are better but a bunch still choose to shoot film for those vibes.
Cheers, Dank. I'll gladly admit that I'm no audiophile, and that the clarity and depth of digital music is unmatched by analogue media. But, there's just a weird warmth and character that vinyl brings that just doesn't seem to be able to be reproduced digitally. There's something special about dropping the needle on my old HMV radiogram and enjoying music the way my grandparents did back in the 50's and early 60's.
Got a vinyl player for christmas because I had ordered two vinyls from one of my favorite artists (Lauren Bousfield babygirl I love you) because they were for sale and I thought they were pretty, and after receiving them I decided I actually did want to have a listen. I never saw this video you made about it until just now, but I independently arrived at the exact same conclusions you did. It's not about the quality, it's about how *magic* they are. People say they're shitty because you can't get dust on them, or if there's some random vibration you can hear it, but I honestly love hearing the bits of dust on the vinyl and being able to lightly tap the player to hear the thump it causes. These things make it feel like the closest you can get to being able to lovingly caress a medium that inherently is not a physical one. It's an imperfect expression of the medium, but the imperfections feel like those a person might have; the imperfections that make them feel like a living, breathing human
You did it, mate, you finally made me feel really old on the internet! hahaha While you were talking about how complicated and fiddly vinyl can be, I was here going "...but I used to listen to them every day as a kid!" A lot of my favorite music to this day is music I used to listen to on my parents' turntable. This was so interesting and funny to watch because vinyl was second nature to me, it was like riding my bike. Like you said, it was part of my routine. Now I wish we still had the big rig to listen to our vinyl collection again!
I love vinyl and I'm very happy to see you getting into it Dank. I'll never say it's better than digital sound quality wise, but better experience wise. Love my record player and all my vinyl records
I remember my experience with vinyl. I got a turntable from an 80s console stereo at a pawn shop for 40 bucks with a broken needle. Thirty-five bucks to Audio-Technica (plus a week) later, I had a new needle. I plugged the turntable right into my surround receiver and was very let down with how quiet it was because I'd never known what a preamp was. So, another 20 bucks on Amazon (AND AN ADDITIONAL WEEK) later, I have a preamplifier and I'm rocking and rolling. Now, yes, yes. Knock my cheap setup all you want. I was a student on a student's budget. I had maybe 800 dollars a month to live on. But yes, it does feel like magic. I remember being absolutely being blown away by just how _good_ it sounds. Back when I was into it, I would have a blast throwing some Modest Mouse on and kicking back on the sofa for 20 minutes before having to get up to flip it. Absolutely loved it back in my days in university. I'm into CDs nowadays because with my cheap, mid-end equipment, the audio quality is just as good, and it's insanely easy to get the FLACs on my home PC and my cell phone. Also, my turntable stopped turning. So I gave all my vinyls to my sister, who is super big into them right now. I used to have the big chungus Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness collector's edition that came out in 2012 because I was hardcore into the Smashing Pumpkins. I actually had a hard time finding it in my college town (population of about 9,000) and the closest store that had one was over an hour and a half away. I called that store and asked them to hold it for me because I was on my way to buy it. And they did! I'll never forget the sheer excitement of getting to open that puppy and spin it up. Absolutely one of the best days of 2012 for me. But I totally agree it's a different vibe. When I wasn't working or studying, I just needed time to relax. Time to not move or think. And the vibe you get from vinyl is absolutely that. With vinyl, so much more of the experience is manual that you feel like you had a greater part in making it happen. So when you go to listen to it, there's this psychological connection that makes you feel more immersed in it. It's absolutely one of my favorite ways to listen.
honestly what you've spent is just fine, imo dankpods overspent. With the actual quality of vinyl, you really don't need expensive gear for it to sound as good as it'll get. The biggest investment in your system should be the speakers or headphones.
The RIAA curve reversal and some amplification is a not-that-complicated analog circuit. It doesn't take a whole heck of a lot to do it "correctly." You can go ridiculous and use 100VA transformers and six stages of filtering on the power rails to bring the noise floor down another 3dB, but honestly, vinyl is not a perfect medium. Trying to squeeze perfection out of it is like chasing a high that never ends. You want 120dB S/N and 0-20kHz bandwidth? Play a wave file.
I grew up on vinyl, and experienced all of the formats since then (8-track, cassette, mp3). While the convenience of mp3/digital formats is wonderful, my first love is vinyl. Records were produced differently for this format: they usually told a story of some sort, and were arranged to listen to the songs in a specific order. The discs selected for this are the cream of the crop... especially Miles Davis's "Kind of Blue". I still listen to that vinyl often, and every time, I hear something new... ever after 50 years. Long Live Vinyl!
I'm a vinyl man through my mother and if I'm at home I'll always pop on a vinyl. Gotta say the system of a down album from 1998 is down right my favourite listen :)
As a vinyl owner, i will attest that is one if the best way to experience your favorite albums. Only downside yet is that some song have to be mixed differently so that the needle won't skip, which isn't a problem most of the time, but i was disapointed when i bought the "cross" album by Justice, and ONLY my two favourite songs were affected by the mixing. The trumpet synths at the beginning of "Genesis" had a bit of the top cut off but it's only the intro so who cares. The real bummer was "Waters of Nazareth", big chunks of the bass and treble were absent. Other than that, vinyl is cool for the vibe.
@@TalDSruler Well, the other songs are perfectly fine, i have another Justice vinyl ("Woman" if you want to know) and it sounds excellent. For the rest of my vinyls, everything sounds like the original. Only some rare ones are like this (the ones that are too bassy or too high pitch, and the need to go VERY low/high to get cut out).
I love my vinyl. I inherited all of my grandmas 80s rock and the crackle is just so nostalgic and really just brings up my mood. And I only play it through a Bluetooth speaker 😅 Playing journeys greatest hits and having to get up and flip it over is just so enjoyable
One of the reasons I love vinyl is going to a music shop and spending time thumbing through albums and discovering old gems. Which you can often pick up for a buck or two
I grew up right in the middle of the CD-MP3 transition, and I've recently got into vinyl. I've got an incredibly entry-level player (literally a suitcase model with a built-in speaker) but it still sounds great to my ear, and I just love it. The little ritual of cleaning the disk, setting it on the turntable, and lowering the needle onto the disk is really pleasant, and I like the little crackles and pops in the background. I definitely agree with you on the "modern disks are way better" point though. I've got a recent Paul Simon collection, and the disk just feels so much weightier and higher quality than some of the paper-thin disks from the late '80s.
For me the love of vinyl comes from the process. Listening to records is slow and time consuming but that process has made me fall in love with music all over again.
I absolutely love your view on vinyl, where it doesn't sound better than digital, but it still sounds amazing in its own way. I was hoping you'd get into vinyl one day, so I'm glad you're enjoying it!
The funniest part of that statement is that it’s factually incorrect depending what platform it was originally made for. This is the only video I’ve disliked by him because it’s full of false statements because he refused to research and fact check what he was told.
Let's be honest: lots of music online sounds awful because it's badly digitally compressed and has easily-heard digital artifacts and sounds flat. The idea of 'digital is better' hinges entirely on digital music actually BEING better-sounding than other formats, and it rarely approaches, let alone exceeds, CD quality. It's highly disingenous when an argument pits 'the average person's pops-and-clicks casual vinyl experience vs. 32-bit floating point studio quality digital', when reality is 'most digital music is about convenience over sound quality, and people who know how to use records properly can for-sure get better sound quality than average streaming'.
Oh man, the fun you can get with coloured vinyl, it’s my jam. You think the artwork is amazing, wait till you come across a vintage green disc with black and white marbling through it. And then there’s Jack White and Third Man Records. Holy crap! The stuff they’ve done! The produced an LP that plays at 33, 45, and 78, has a song with two different starts, depending on where the needle falls, has locked grooves on both sides, and here’s the awesomest thing Dank, it has a hologram! I kid you not, they etched the vinyl so that when the light hits it right, a little angel spins around. Oh yeah, the disc in half blue, half white. And one side is matte, the other glossy. I’d love for you to see it.
You perfectly described the reasons why I got into vinyl as an adult and why I love it. From the childhood memories, to the owning your favorite albums in a beautiful medium, to the hypnotic wonder I you feel watching that disc spin. There is no need to justify it or compare it to digital music, it is just a fun hobby for enthusiasts.
My mom, dad and I are Technics enthusiasts and we have Technics turntables, even I have one at my place. I think they sound amazing and I love the whole routine of taking the vinyl out carefully, placing it on the turntable, turning it on and gently using the vinyl brush to collect all the dust, pressing that button and watching the arm come to life. I don’t discriminate against any way of listening to music but I highly recommend vinyls. It’s an entirely different experience.
I've never stopped listening to entire albums at a time. It's the only way I listen to music. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one when I see some short transitional track with a tiny fraction of the listens as its neighboring tracks on spotify. You better believe I'm listening to that one too.
I remember saying to my parents "let's build a vynil collection!" and they enthusiastically told me i buy a couple of records and they would buy the turntable. I come home with the new foo fighters album for me and a great 70's italian pop album they love, plus a couple of classics and a jazz record. They got the worst turntable they could manage to get, it has inbuilt speakers they suck and if you connect a jack it get WORSE
Lmao they saw you coming a mile away - props to the guys at the store for making you pay 5x more than you needed to. All you needed was a Project Primary and a Schiit Mani. $529 and I guarantee you wouldn't be able to hear a difference between it and the player and pre-amp you bought.
I have a Rega P1 Plus. Even though I rarely touched it these days because it is not with me currently, I enjoyed every moment using it. There's something about the sound that vinyl produces, and seeing that vinyl spinning is truly amazing. One thing that I was surprised is how much of an effort it takes to take care of the turntable and especially the vinyl; static, sleeves, dusts and etc. Still, love the whole experience very much!
0:44 Sun is shinin' in the sky There ain't a cloud in sight It's stopped rainin' everybody's in the play And don't you know It's a beautiful new day, hey hey Runnin' down the avenue See how the sun shines brightly in the city On the streets where once was pity Mr. Blue Sky is living here today, hey hey Mr. Blue Sky please tell us why You had to hide away for so long (so long) Where did we go wrong? Mr. Blue Sky please tell us why You had to hide away for so long (so long) Where did we go wrong? Hey you with the pretty face Welcome to the human race A celebration, Mr. Blue Sky's up there waitin' And today is the day we've waited for Oh Mr. Blue Sky please tell us why You had to hide away for so long (so long) Where did we go wrong? Hey there Mr. Blue We're so pleased to be with you Look around see what you do Everybody smiles at you Hey there Mr. Blue We're so pleased to be with you Look around see what you do Everybody smiles at you Mr. Blue, you did it right But soon comes Mr. Night creepin' over Now his hand is on your shoulder Never mind I'll remember you this I'll remember you this way Mr. Blue Sky please tell us why You had to hide away for so long (so long) Where did we go wrong? Hey there Mr. Blue (sky) We're so pleased to be with you (sky) Look around see what you do (blue) Everybody smiles at you
This is like why I always get a CD for my favorite albums, it's probably sounds the same as my apple music version. But I still love the physical things lol
Not same as iTunes at least, unless they started to sell lossless. Compared to that it does sound better. Compared to ripping it to your device in lossless, identical indeed, mathematically identical perfect copy. I just can't get my head around paying for just some files... Having the CD in hand is the real fan thing to do.
Same here! It’s a wonderful compromise. The ritual is still there (albeit less fiddly), the physical aspect is there (just smaller), and it’s cheaper! Also CDs certainly are better quality than standard - not lossless - streaming, with the added bonus that you now *own* the music and can rip it to your computer or whatever and no stupid music label execs can take it down for dumb reasons.
i wish car stereos still had cd players in them using Bluetooth on my phone just isn't the same as having the music on a physical thing a cd for me is more reliable and doesn't need charging (although after about 5 hours it turns off so it doesn't get too hot)
I usually get a CD to get lossless music that isn't on streaming (I just hate the idea of not having it locally and someone deciding to some day remove it from the servers), because only some music can be easily bought as downloadable lossless files. But there is also a certain appeal in owning CDs, and even when it is released on Bandcamp (they have FLAC files), I often buy the CD as well. Ath home it is also convenience, because I don't have to rummage through the file system, just pop the CD off the rack and spin it. And a bit of showing off to yourself and maybe others, like with owning signed or rare CDs. The height of it was for me buying "Downside Up" by Siouxsie and the Banshees from Tidal (yes, you can actually buy music from Tidal and it's lossless), and later hunting it down on Ebay despite it being really expensive and hard to find. But I just love that album so much that I just had to have it, vertically on my shelf, ready to play. This and the booklet. You never get the booklet with digital download (almost, I think I did get one once, but that was in early 2000s).
@@nyaaanjake The srteaming plague is what worries me for future archaeological reasons, the music from streaming era would be gone literally like tears in the rain. Overwritten with newer music or recycled with the server itself, and no historical record to be seen. I just want to believe that at least the content we now enjoy will remain for future generations when we are all dead and gone.
Man this is such a great take on vinyl. I absolutely love my setup with an old B&O table and mix of old and new records. Been enjoying vinyl since I was a kid and inherited my grandmother's mediocre disk collection and cheap table. Just another great rabbit hole to drop money into.
Heyo, long time 1 GRIT fan! I've been collecting vinyl for over 10 years now and it's so cool to get to see people's enthusiasm discovering it all for the first time (it's a plastic circle that you *drag a little rock across* to make noise!). I wanted to offer some of my favorite things about collecting, as well as some tips for beginners on a budget! Things I love about collecting vinyl (not an exhaustive list, and this is also in addition to everything you highlighted): - connecting more with the music and artist. From lyric sheets, to additional art, pictures, notes, posters, inserts of all kinds, the larger format allows artists to include more besides just the music. Like bonus features, but for your favorite albums! - better funding for the artists you love! A $28 record is going to support the artist much more than a 0.000000000001¢ stream will, and you're getting a piece of art you can hold on your hand for the deal, not a stream of a fine that would go away should you not pay a monthly fee. - collecting stuff is just nice. You should try it 😄 Some tips for beginners on a budget: Getting a viable and cheap stereo setup can be way easier than you'd think! The equipment that was A+ in the 90's usually wasn't built poorly, and will still sound and work great in a modern setup. A TON of people that kept very good care of their equipment will give it to places like Goodwill, or sell it for cheap at garage sales. I personally have gotten all but my turntable, center channel speaker and preamp from Goodwill, and I've never been disappointed. A very quality 5.1 receiver from the early 2010s cost me around $30, you can easily find a good pair of bookshelf speakers for $10-$25 a pair, a subwoofer will usually be one of the priciest bits, closer to $50+ (but definitely something most can live without or pick up later), and a roll of speaker wire will be $5-$10 and you're ready to jam! Bonus, you likely now have a seriously solid home theater setup too 👌 - when it comes to buying your first albums, there aren't really any wrong answers, this is about what you enjoy and are interested in. I've been collecting over a decade, and there are still many albums that I'm sure many people would describe as "essential for any collection" that I still don't have, and many albums that I'm sure most would not consider worth much, that I've spent a solid chunk of change to acquire, and that's okay, because I love what I have, and that's what's important. If you want to start your collection by picking up 10 classic used albums from a thrift store, go for it! If you want to start your collection by pre-ordering your favorite artists upcoming new album on vinyl, go for it! Enjoy! 🫶💎🎚️🎧
This talk about the same experience with a different vibe has really made me want to listen to my old iPod again. Thanks DankPods! I'll need to actually find it first, though...
This is a wonderfully grounded take on vinyl. It really is an enthusiast thing you do for fun.
"The two things that really drew me to vinyl were the expense and the inconvenience"
This is unbelievably accurate haha
Today it is! Shortly before I was born though, it was how everyone listened to music. It was the "cd/mp3" of their era ;-;
yes
I collected vinyl for a bit but the expense and inconvenience are exactly why I abandoned the hobby. I've moved on to CDs.
It's beyond my comprehension how vinyl remains a popular medium. But I'm all here for it
"It's not about sound quality, it's about vibe quality" hit the nail on the head.
Hit the needle on the record.
@@Terralncognita That’s… not good
@@wiquid I am sorry you feel that way
Maxwell's silver hammer!!!
@@Terralncognita no I mean if you _hit_ the needle then it’s not good
For those looking to get in vinyls my recommendation is to go secondhand on your table. You can get some AMAZING tables for cheap if you're willing to maybe replace the needle or something like that. I got an amazing Technics sl-1200 from the 70s for like 80$CAD last summer only had to replace the needle.
I bought a second hand turntable. The very first time I plugged it in, the biggest capacitor in it blew. Smoke went everywhere. No immediate replacements existed anymore. So I sold it back to the original owner at a loss.
Beginners warning: Always check if replacement needles are easily available before buying. Sometimes they're proprietary or no longer in production.
if you buy a second hand fully automatic turntable you might need to replace more than just the needle. but even then. it's a simple repair. just a little rubber nub to get the automatic stuff working again :D
I did garden work for someone and got paid by record/radio/cassette player all in one, still use it
I second this, I got a Dual 606 and a Technics 3210, apart from changing the fuse on my Dual and modifying my Technics for 78 rpm they had absolutely no problems at all
you described vinyl perfectly. It's not for discovering music, it's for enjoying your absolute favorite albums in entirely new ways
It's very much for discovering music unless you only listen to 'brand-new' stuff all the time. For those who listen to stuff from the vinyl-dominant era, there's way more than one lifetime of records to hear, and lots of them sat in collections where they were played once or never, and many of them are under $5.
@@jamescarter3196 My local vinyl store even has a bucket marked "free" full of records that have no sleeves or are otherwise unwanted
Unless your favorite music is made by dipshits that only release orchestral versions on vinyl and nowhere else.
It's fucking awesome 😂
I have discovered some of my favorite bands now because of Vinyl and pouring through old records. Especially the Commodores. Love the Commodores.
Old comment, but I recently got into vinyl collecting and for me it's definitely about discovering music. Some tracks I like were only released on vinyl. And digging through tracks in the record store and listening to them; I can say I've already discovered a few gems.
What I'm struggling with is how one is supposed to listen to vinyl in Australia? With the turntable upside down, doesn't the record just fall off?
aussies just built different
They probably use suction cups, which is also how they walk
It spins backward.
yeah lol
they have upside down harnesses for the records
What you said at 6:08 is so accurate, I recentley refurbished a walkman and I find myself listening to whole cassettes of music that I'd skip on spotify. It really does make you appreciate the art more
This is why I listen to vinyl, cassettes and CD's. Like you said, it really made me appreciate albums more, even though I still also use Spotify I listen to whole albums a lot more. Then I got vinyl at home, Walkman on the go and CD's in the car.
eat ur cereal Lol
Absolutely, I know and appreciate records a lot more if I own them on vinyl, even if they're objectively not the greatest.
Same here. I have NEVER been the type of person to enjoy albums in full. I take songs i like from them and put them in my favorite playlists and forget about the other songs. But when i picked up vinyl, i really felt like i was able to sit down and appreciate everything.
Except walkmans can skip tracks... They literally have a whole thing for it... It's called AMS... Most walkmans have that since Sony invented the tech...
I mean most Vinyl players post 1970 could skip tracks as well... anyone that's watched enough techmoan should know that by now.
They basically work that when it goes onto a song you dont like you press "next" and it goes to the next chunk of silence.
Imagine how crazy when he finally learn about CDs and how fast it spins
Thing is though, in the _vast majority_ of cases, you won't be able to _see_ the CD spin, except in some top-loader player models...
Transparent top mods
@@slashtiger1 I used to eject the disk from my xbox 360 while it was still spinning, it was satisfying to watch is slowly spin to a halt. Fun stuff.
there was a lil window on my dad's cd player, and as a kid, my fave part of putting a new cd in was seeing it go spinny
@@CKDD83245 I know, there are some players that do have little windows on them. Like I said, specifically top-loader models are likely to have these. I have yet to see a tray-loading player to have one, though.
9 months ago this video made me decide NOT to get into vinyl because it would sure as hell ruin me financially.
2 months ago I got into vinyl anyway and it ruined me financially, but it was worth every cent I've wasted so far, and every cent I still have to waste on it
lol, welcome to the dark side :)
@@gramophonechannel of the moon?
I haven’t recovered from my last purchase one month ago. Decided to buy the entire Led Zeppelin discography. Worth it tho!!
@@Steven-lu8hy Nice! I'm doing a vinyl dry January, I'm not gonna buy any new vinyl till the end of the month to give my wallet some time to recover
@@anamore that’s smart. It really does get addicting
As a photographer, I've had nearly this same experience within my own world of analogue vs digital- it's super interesting to see nearly all the same points I've found made, but in another medium
Pfft that's more fascinating than interesting
Not a photographer, but I've gained interest in shooting film recently, shot my first roll and experienced something that I did not grow up with, the value of pictures. You have 36 exposures, that's it, every shot will be set up meticulously to do it correctly, you are more mindful to what you are shooting for real. This is only my first roll, and I'll hopefully get it from developing from the lab this week, but I sure do hope and will try to shoot more, amazing feeling.
@@felipegutierrez2193 photographer here👋 how did the roll turn out?:)
Old digital cameras man, you need to really pay attention if you want a good shot, its fun.
@Clint O'Connell No, not really.
I’ve been listening to vinyl my whole life, and built up my own collection (including MUSE’s discography). Everything got destroyed in a flood in 2020, and I was absolutely gutted. Some of the vinyl itself was saved, but all the paper was destroyed.
Stay safe buddy! I hope you can take that as an opportunity to start fresh. Materials don't last and that's ok, I believe that as long as you remember the fun times and value it that's all that matters.
lm so sorry ☹️😞
Lol
@@AmoralTom how is this funny?
@@AmoralTom n00b got PWNED lmao
I've been collecting vinyl records for about 3 years now, and it's been incredibly fun doing so. And this video does an excellent job getting into the nitty gritty of vinyl playing & collecting.
same here!
I got records ranging from dizzy gillespie to ray charles.. even the beattles!
Want a gold star?
@@pigglewiggle175 what
Didn't expect to see you here lol.
Aye! It's daniel T. I've been watching since the mario undertale days. I remember when you kept trying to convince everyone you were a pyro clone.
Good shit man
Quick notes on old vs. new vinyl.
Old vinyl really varies in sound quality. Year can play into it, vinyl made during the oil crisis in the mid-70's can be a bit spottier because more discs were being pressed from reused vinyl, therefore if you're picking up a disc from that era from your local record store, it could very well sound like shit. However, certain pressing plants, such as Monarch records, Columbia's Santa Maria plant, certain pressing plants in the UK, Germany, Italy, and Japan, used higher quality vinyl formulation which lead to thicker and higher quality records. Mosy of the time.
And see that's the big crux with older vinyl, it wasn't necessarily made cheaply, but it was produced in far greater quantities back then, meaning certain discs just werent't going to turn out as well for some reason and slip through QC. Especially if you get discs near the end of a stamper's life, it can sound worse. And then once they made new stampers, you get into the issue of represses, generally produced from copy tapes, which obviously have some generational loss. Some of the best sounding records I own are from the 60's, 70's, and 80's (ELP debut first UK pressing, Trick of the Tail first UK pressing, Moonglow by Tatsuro Yamashita, Fragile first UK pressing, etc.) But also some of the very worst sounding records I've heard were pressed in the same exact era. It really varies.
When vinyl started to make a resurgence, think 2012 or 2013, these record companies needed to sort of relearn how to press good vinyl, and in addition were dealing with decades old, worn out machinery and masterings that were generally the brick-walled, super-compressed digital masters in use at the time. Because of this, newer vinyl was pretty bad for awhile, but soon you started to get companies like Analogue Productions and Music Matters (along with veterans like Classic Records and MoFi) putting out higher quality 180g and 200g releases from original master tapes, or very high quality digital transfers (digitally sourced vinyl is not inherently bad, in fact if the source is a high quality digital transfer it can sound fantastic).
In the years since, more pressing plants have opened up, restored their tooling, and hired genuinely great cutting engineers so that we now have pretty consistent quality. Normal mass-market releases still don't compare to the audiophile releases coming out today, but they are consistently satisfactory to the point where I can buy a new album on vinyl and know it will probably sound pretty good with minimal QC issues, which was not the case even 6 or 7 years ago.
Not to mention that even if you do manage to find a perfectly pressed, well mastered, virgin vinyl disc from back in the day, it only took some lunkhead forgetting one time to flip the stylus on their BSR from "78" to "LP", or to simply play it with a very worn down needle, and suddenly the record sounds like trash no matter what the matrix numbers say.
The longer a record has been around, the more opportunity there's been to damage it, and the damage isn't always apparent just by looking at it. I'd estimate that at least 30% of my older vinyl has at least a little bit of damage from the previous owner.
@@BokBarber This is true, especially on inner grooves. I find UK pressed records tend to be the most consistently problematic since a lot of great cuts by people like George Peckham were very hot, and thus were hard for cheaper record players to handle, thus causing repeated mistracking and groove damage. Japanese vinyl from the era tends tl be very consistently high quality and very good condition.
@@aidanb4477This makes allot of sense. I don't have too much experience with overseas records, just a few here and there, but I definitely believe this.
My experience in America is a mixed bag, but the two general rules of thumb seem to be 1) the younger the intended audience for the record, the better the chance it's been beaten up and 2) going back any farther than 1970 greatly increases the risk of damage.
My handful of original Beatles records follow this to a 'T': their first few records targeted preteens who apparently played them with shards of broken glass. These are damaged as a rule. Their middle albums like "Rubber Soul" and the white album have some damage but are much more listenable. Their last albums like "Let It Be" and "The Beatles Again", closing out the decade and targeting twenty-somethings, have the least damage of all.
@@BokBarber Target audience is an interesting consideration I hadn't thought of but it makes a lot of sense.
Increased risk of damage on records earlier than 1970 also makes a lot of sense, as record players tracked at much higher tracking forces and generally used sapphire styli, which would wear out quickly and start to damage the record after being worn out enough. Once better quality record players from Technics, Pioneer, Dual etc. began to become available at lower prices records started to wear out a lot less.
i ain’t reading allat
I just love your enthusiasm for music. I used to devour whole albums at a time and really take it all in. Haven't done that in years, but your enthusiasm is contagious.
I love my vinyls. I inherited my dads old collection, and he was a music freak. If I were to listen to every record in a row, it would take three solid months. And every single one is different, not just is what is on them, but they in how they sound. They have skips and pops and scratches in different places. Some are heat warped, some aren’t. Some sound better at 33 then they do at 45. Some have been purposefully warped to create an endless loop of one song. Some of them date back to the late 40’s, and some were made in the late 1990’s It’s just magical having a piece of history that you can actually listen to. Something that has been held by dozens of people that have been listened to for decades. And every single one has a story.
Wait what!? You can wrap a vinyl to create a "repeat" function? Maybe i should dive into my dads collection one day.
Records, not vinyls. Vinyls is not a word.
I don't own records. I own a collection of Edison diamond discs. Those are true ancient pieces of history. One of the oldest media formats, meant to compete with the first vinyl records. I got the discs from my great grandmother, and the player was actually found at a thrift store I volunteered at. The strangest coincidence led to the strangest piece in my audio setup
@@Henk8118 Please don't purposely damage your or your dad's records like this lol. What an odd thing for that guy's dad to do. If my dad just wanted one song, he bought a single or recorded the song to a tape.
@@Henk8118 yeah, it’s got a little heat bubble where someone held a lighter under it. It’s not perfect and it does skip a couple seconds here and there, but it works! I wouldn’t recommend doing it these days since records aren’t produced as widely anymore. But apparently back in the 70’s and 80’s when they were more vastly produced it was fairly common if you couldn’t afford a single, you just warped an album.
I've been collecting vinyl since high school, because it truly felt like I owned the music, and I really like how they made a comeback today since they're more accessible now. I hated ordering limited edition vinyl online and UPS destroying it though. RIP to that Frank Ocean Blonde vinyl, you'll be missed :(
i felt a real punch in the gut reading that ups story
sorry for your loss
UPS is fucking useless.
My neighbor, four years older than me has 600+ records. I love classic rock, but I also like new music. I hope he can get Porter Robinson & Madeon - Shelter (2016) on vinyl, cos those '80s synths would go well with the warm vinyl crackles. I found the song on YT a few months ago, and it sounds so ahead of its time. :) The cost though, $280? R u kidding me brother? That costs more than a new iPod, or a new Android. Capitalism my guy, it succs sometimes.
Also, UPS sucks major butt. They sometimes never deliver on time, they break stuff, like your record (and also expensive kitchenware), and they now apparently charge for 13% surcharge due to rising fuel prices ($4.50/gal here in the US for diesel). The CEO Carol Tome has $141 million bucks as of 3/8/22, can't he pay for the fuel. Lol... I am so glad I don't buy stuff online or ship stuff. There is an official webpage for UPS rants, can you guess the title?
I like how he gets so much wrong...
Like "fold out" ... oh... Not Gatefold.
They were mass made and that's why they were poor... Oh not the technology improved and you got different grades... There were even movies on vinyl towards the end... But okay.
Bless him. Like he called it needle... Not a stylus. A needle. Bless.
I wouldn't mind but I have only just finished Uni so yeah... Tells you that perhaps it isn't an age thing... Just an awareness thing.
I think if he heard a white label it would blow his mind.
And technically if you get a White Label you do own it. It's like the master.
People Just Do Nothing do a BAFTA masterclass where they talk about how hard it was to get music for the show because in their genre (old school garage and D&B) a lot of the music is underground and so many white labels that nobody knows who owns what and so the BBC blanket licence didn't cover them so they ingeniously remixed the songs enough for it to be classed as their own artistic interpretation.
What I’m picking up, vinyl is like classic muscle cars. Inefficient, expensive, beyond obsolete, but *so. much. character* that it’s fun to have around anyway.
No it is very affordable to get into, please do not think this. Unless you are living paycheck-to-paycheck, Vinyl is absolutely a collecting hobby people can get into and record players do not cost a lot. Even then I was still able to pick up a record periodically. You got it partially wrong and I don't want the 100+ people liking your comment to grow with people thinking you got the right take.
It's more like straight up choosing a car. You are going to get to your destination either way regardless of the car you pick up:
- You CAN go for the higher-end 2023 Lexus 500 IS for starting at over $75,000.
- You CAN go for the absolutely affordable and genuinely a good all-around car to drive 2023 Honda Civic that starts at $28,750.
Unless you specifically know the differences between the Lexus and the Honda, both are going to drive. They are cars. They drive. Beep Beep. Go to school, pick up some food, get a hooker, anything you need for a car can be done by both cars. One just looks and sounds better doing it. Hell, if you even want to make even more of a car analogy, go to a pawn shop, they have record players. GUARANTEED.
I personally have a Victrola record player I purchased because I liked vinyl. Plays all records at all speeds, connects to Bluetooth and has it's own internal (trash) speakers. When connected to speakers, I can't tell the difference between that and any other model. It plays amazing every single time, $85.99 off Amazon. Vinyl isn't expensive if you have a tiny bit of disposable income. If it is "too expensive", you don't have disposable income, sorry.
@@DamienDarkside no. stop telling people to spend money on stupid, frivolous bull shit. it is NOT affordable to get into, anything 'affordable' in terms of hardware is going to fuck your vinyl's. get into vinyl when you got money to burn, shit get a damn good pair of audiophile headphones or some bitchin' speaker monitors instead. VINYL IS A MUSIC MONEY SINK, STOP IT, YOU DORK.
@@DamienDarkside You're ruining your records with such a cheap player. It doesn't have adjustable tracking weight.
@@DamienDarkside cheap vinyl players can cause damage
"Beyond obsolete" -- huh? Regular obsolete would mean 'no longer in production and rarely used' but records and players are still being made, never went out of production, and have seen a substantial uptick in popularity recently. 'Beyond obsolete" doesn't even describe 'making fire by hand' accurately'.
After years of seeing Techmoan review turntables of various stripes, I love seeing Wade jump in at the deep end with a pricey boi. Stay bonkers mate.
Not to mention a pricey boi that looks as bare bones as it gets.
@@oliverer3 bare bones doesn’t equate to quality or niceness of the unit. To start, it’s a belt drive
@@Vacated204 Of course not, but in this case, they do seem to have stripped it down to the minimum necessary functions and dialed them in as much as possible. Sure it's still overpriced but I can't blame them considering how willingly audiophiles throw money at equipment like this.
For what it's worth being a belt-drive isn't necessarily a bad thing. A thin round belt like this is probably the most reliable method to uncouple as much vibration as possible from the platter, something that would be absolutely unavoidable with direct drive or a toothed belt. If the difference between a very small amount of vibration and close to none makes an appreciable difference to the sound quality though I couldn't say.
I can say. That minute amount of vibration masks the ambiance, the softest harmonics, the breath of the performer. However, for albums by Metallica and Judas Priest, I doubt if it makes much difference after all…😂
The only thing that interests me personally about vinyl is the big beautiful album covers, that actually display the album art properly and large enough that you can see it and appreciate it. But buying vinyls just for the cover is silly and wasteful, and just having a collection of covers with no vinyls is like collecting barbie dolls without the heads, it's just weird. So maybe one day I will get a turntable and try it out, LOL
for me at least, i buy it to show support for smaller artists i like who will probably not get or have many people having their vinyl. also to flex how epic and definitely not how bad i am with money lmao
@@socialchum I throughly believe my vinyl collection is a testament to how stupid I am with my money. I mean, I love that I have them. And I can proudly say that I have some rare discs. But they they’re what I call a ‘stupid money’ purchase. After I’ve paid my bills, after I’ve bought food n shit, I let myself have some money I can be stupid with. Which is why I have a box set of Walt Disney’s Fantasia from the ‘50s.
My aunt has a shelf of barbie doll heads and the bodies are nowhere to be found
@@puffitale my proudest stupid vinyl is probably the talking heads self titled record. people say the cover's ugly but it's uglier in real life, even though i love it
@@socialchum Cool! My Fantasia set has beautiful watercolour artwork that’s different from the typical Sorcerer’s Mickey that they now use everywhere, plus it has a recreation of the Deems Taylor booklet that they gave out when the movie was first release. Due to its age, it looks like absolute dogshit, but it was the first piece of music I ever fell in love with, so I have to have it.
I had a fanboy moment at the Absolution album you showed. It’s an all time favorite of mine, so it was really cool to see the inside of the vinyl cover for it
I had a fangirl moment at that :>
One of my favs as well.
literally same
Basically the only reason i clicked lol
YES! Exactly. I found myself listening to the whole album, start to finish, when bought my first vinyl record. It's totally different, it's like throwback to childhood when you buy a casette tape, and it says "Toxicity" on it, and you don't have any clue what the hell this band is sounds like, but record store guy assured you that it is freakin' amazing. And you listen to it. Over and over again, start to finish.
I think I started appreciating music a lot more with vinyl. This is the point. Neither the sound nor it's "warmth" (although it kinda warm, yeah)
"It's like a campfire". Man, you are *good* with words. Now I want to have some guests over for a nice conversation around a spinning vinyl. Playing soft instrumental music, of course.
I'll bring the cabbage.
@@Fluteboy Count me in
Just like you said, digital for the most of it but vinyl for those exquisite albums that just stop your world in its tracks. Don't care how bad it sounds, it's a whole experience. The album art, the smell, the fell of the disk, the heartbeat just before you release that needle and then bliss...
Also the whole thing about operating the player.
It's about being fun, not about sounding better. Same as what I do with CDs (...no space for anything else at home frankly), compared to just playing the .FLAC file.
Frankly the same can be said about any physical medium for anything. It's just a heck lot more fun (plus, actually having it with you without being dependent on Internet or the benevolence of companies allowing you to use what you paid for).
Yes, yes... I do enjoy a splendid tranquil evening of pouring myself some chardonnay, putting on my favorite vinyl record, and sitting down in my robe to listen to the subtle expert notes of Guerilla Radio.
Vinyl does not even sound bad?
@@BareBandit vinyl has a better sound scape imo
@@arnox4554 that sounds divine ❤️
I grew up with vinyl in the 70s and, like so much of my formative years, while I have fond memories -- snapping off the shrink wrap, opening up the gatefold sleeve, admiring the artwork and reading the liner notes -- I happily moved on when the time came. Yes, you nailed it, by the late 70s, the discs were thin and cheaply made (Japanese imports were the much sought-after thing) and it didn't help that I could only afford the shittiest second hand record player with an arm so heavy the needle dug out the grooves as it went along. I have no desire for the cracks, the pops and skips inherent in the format (one album I had -- ELO's debut -- had a skip so ingrained that I was amazed when I eventualy heard the missing middle eight that had been hidden from me for so long). As time went on, into the 80s, it got even worse and I understand the record companies were complicit in forcing consumers to move to the CD format by making the vinyl as cheap and shoddy as possible, filling it even with cardboard. I got two vinyl records in the mid-80s that I had to return immediately, as they had chips in them when I took them out of their sleeves.
I love CDs -- I still do, really, and the fact that I don't have to get up and turn the disc over for the second side is a big plus, and once they got their act together and stopped bunging out inferior CD copies of albums just for the dosh and realised that they actually had to put some effort into it, they were great. Then I started ripping them into MP3s, then OGGs, then lossless FLACS for my portable music player that I carry with me, and live in wonder that the albums I once marveled the artwork for and listened on a scratchy turntable in my little bedroom, I can now listen to in perfect fidelity on the go, on the train or the tube or anywhere in my house. I've even started downloading high-res editions of old classics, and bask in the sonic beauty. (but I don't stream -- no no no).
Meanwhile, my granddaughter just turned 13 years old, and her main request for a present? A record player. My wife and I gave her a pile of our old vinyl as a starter kit.
If you were around in the 70s you would see voyager 1 launch right?
@@joeyxl8712 what does that have to do with what he’s talking about lmfao. mans just wrote one of the most wholesome youtube comments i’ve ever read and the one reply is the most random thing i’ve ever heard
@@gabess well see my comment
@@gabess don't get so rattled over it, it's probably just a kid
@@joeyxl8712 I originally ignored your response 'cos I didn't see the relevance, but I should have answered, and apologise for the delay. I have absolutely no memory of Voyager 1 being launched, but I'm guessing I might have seen it.
the fact that this legend actually refuses sponsorships is absolutly mindblowing. heads off to you sir!
I've been collecting vinyl records since 2018 I've now got a collection of around 500 and counting. For me it brings the fun and more personal connection to the music since you have to pay attention or you'll damage it.
I started in the beginning of 2021 and I have about 100 of my own
Nah man
Gimme my streaming service
All I got is 3 CDs hahaha
@@Orcastruck I find it kinda funny the thing vinyl music lovers used to say about CDs is what people love about vinyl now.
Back in the day when CD was first being adopted people used to put CDs down because of how fragile a CD was, stating that vinyl was much tougher and harder to damage and therefore better. Now people are taking this former negative as a positive.
It's interesting the shift in perspective that 30 years can bring. I think vinyl is a great way to listen to music, especially to hear something in a different mood/vibe.
I like the vibe of vinyl, i just cant use it because 90% of the music i listen to isnt known well enough to have vinyls
Omg, where did you get that many albums? I've been into this since 2016 and I only have like 15 lol
(Well, they are quite expensive in my country so...)
1:39 Gotta love how Avid charge more than 2 grand for a turntable and they could only muster up one of the cheapest Audio-Technica cartridges you can find (the AT3600L) to bundle in with it lol
welcome to in-person audio shops, frankly. these are the same places that upcharge the snot out of HDMI cables when doing custom installations just because the customers in that price bracket will barely notice the $9k extra hit.
yeah that is such a punch to the gut, he probably could have bought a fluance RT85 and gotten better sound for fractions of the price
I did a double take when I saw that. You can find that cart on eBay for $10-15 USD all day long. On a $2k table!?
@@harrisonjr98 he also paid $220~ USD for the AT-LP60X (which has the same cartridge as his $2k table) and the MSRP for the AT-LP60X is around $99.99
While it may demonstrate the competence of the cartridge, it is still a letdown! Conical stylus and a lower output than some cartridges. That table is crying out for an MC cartridge with an exposed cantilever. Something dainty and graceful.
"Absolution" was such an amazing album. It also marked the end of the era where I could tell people that the best unknown band I'd ever heard was Muse.
Damn, muse was unknown at some point? Seems like they've been going forever
hysteria go hard
I was so excited to see absolution in the thumbnail, muse is amazing
Definitely a top 5 album for me, also up there is Black Holes and Revelations. I remember when muse were in a battle of the bands thing in Exeter, and lost.
Seeing Song For The Deaf in your collection is so damn cool man, one of my all time favorites as well 🤘
samee
Also the perfect record for vinyl and CD, the concept album works so well but only if you listen to it front to back
One of my reasons for listening to vinyl, on top of the fun aspects like the experience and the artwork, is that I can support my favorite artists since I know music streaming services aren't helping them thrive
exaclty this. all the vinyl i have, i can listen on spotify but actually knowing I supported an artist I enjoy, gives the music another layer. Also it's so fun when you managed to get limited editions. Knowing you're 1 in a 1000 (for example) that have that specific record is pretty cool
what do you listen to
SOMETHING TO NOTE WITH VINYL
due to the nature of the disc, you can't spat a loud CD master onto it without it causing problems. this can lead to some records sounding "better" because the mastering is calmer. a caveat of this is that a lot of pressing plants/ labels aren't very transparent if they've handled mastering themselves, or if it's just an EQ'd version of the digital/ CD master.
my favourite part of vinyl is tracking down original presses and AAA records, those can sound really special. It's a super deep rabbit hole to go down, but a very cool one.
fanx danks, this is a good video (as usual)
It’s really not that deep of a rabbit hole.
@@jimmymcgill2961 lol
@@jimmymcgill2961 yeah, not even a bit.
Partially true, but there are many instances of compressed CD transfers to vinyl. The medium distorts the sound into what looks like a "dynamic" waveform, but it's still the same audio
@@jimmymcgill2961 It is, especially since there's not a massive "FIRST PRESS" on the disk. Sometimes you can deduct it from some number on the cover, but there's often no way to know if the cover still contains the original disk, it might have been replaced in those 50 years. So you'll basically have to research how to spot the differences per album
I wrote an essay in philosophy class (yeah, I know) about technology's impact on our lives and I singled out on that exact thing you're describing with how vinyl "forces" you to go away with the skipping and overall more "throw-away" nature of digital. Objectively there is no reason why one should prefer Vinyl over digital, there is no reason companies couldn't just release the "vinyl mix" of their records on a lossless file format, but the physicality of vinyl still makes it great. Even more now than ever, as our lives become increasingly fast paced and our online existence ever more esoteric, vinyl really does a great deal in grounding you in reality and I think it's obvious why it's seen such a major resurgence.
seeing DankPods pull out a Muse album made me unbelievably happy for some reason.
Fr I love muse
@@landryrodriguez same, 2nd law is such a good album
Mate I'm proud of you. I've been into vinyl for years and it always warm my heart seeing somebody else give it a go! _But nothing beats that warm, clammy feeling you get from the first time you wear it._
@SILVIA CAMORA This is probably one comment that the spam "only for fans over 18" reply belongs on
I got into vinyl semi recently, and all I can say is: I LOVE THE SPIN. Sounds good, fun to own physical music on cool records, and it spins. So Perfect
I like vinyl because even if it really dirty or the groves are fucked you still have the album art, and you have it physically
@@Orcastruck Yeah, I bought a picture disc 45 of Anthrax's "I Am the Law" used many years ago. I was super excited to listen to it, but it was really scratchy. I cleaned it and cleaned it, but was a basket case. $5 bucks down the drain? Hardly! It's got a badass picture of Judge Dredd on it, and the disc *is* the album cover, so I just display the disc.
@@Orcastruck Yeah and you can sell it later when it's worth more or you don't want it anymore, unlike selling your soul to Spotify which goes away the second you stop paying them.
What I fear is my records getting stolen or damaged, if that were to happen I would be so devastated that I would quit collecting. Some I would never be able to find again or would be very expensive. At least digitally I wouldn't lose anything if something were to happen to my phone or PC.
I always had vinyl at home, my dad was a big fan. I remember being super excited the first time he let me use it, because it was absolutely drilled in to my brother and I that it was no joke and easy to destroy. Felt like I'd grown up being able to swing that arm.
I had the exact opposite experience. My mother treated most of her old records like yesterday's garbage in the 90s (why should she care about records when CDs were the future) so she let me play with them like toys. I had a cheap portable record player and for sure ruined some discs, but the exposure eventually lead me to collect records later in life.
Why am I just staring at a green iPad
Thats just the Shrek iPad
The dankpods experience
You are clearly new here
Because you're watching a dankpods video
Cuz you’re danking, you fool.
The thing you said about setting time away for things is SO applicable. I do the same with things which have WAY less overhead than vinyl- cassettes, CDs, heck even reel to reels if thats your jam! Anytime i want to experience music- mainly with CDs (because im dragging my feet on replacing the needle in my record player), i grab a cd, and sit down with it and listen. Because that little bit of extra work just feels good.
One of my earliest memories is being in the basement, playing "Home on the Range" again and again on my parents' old victrola. I wonder if they still have the disk....
Who sang it? There are many covers of it iirc.
I really love this one- ua-cam.com/video/Je16IfVIu5c/v-deo.html
@@sinuslebastian6366 It's literally among my earliest memories, I have no idea who sang it lol
@@star2705 fair lol
my grandparents have a turntable and i always think about seeing it and being curious about it. and here i am 10+ years later, a vinyl collector and listener myself
I wish he connected the headphones to the vinyl player and used "The freakish ears on a stick" to let us listen to the vinyl while he had a split screen showing us the vinyl go round in circles, woulda been an amazing experience, great video DankPods :)
He probably doesn’t have any non-copyright songs on vynl
@@isaactrockman4417 ...yet.
@@arthurfine4284 me watching in horror as dankpods forges scarlet fire on vinyl
Scarlet fire on vinyl
"It's not about sound quality, it's about vibe quality" correct. This is why I collect audio cassette tapes. I need the grainy staticy hum and mechanical noises over the top of my music. Pure 100% top lo-fi vibe quality. And yes, like you, I only collect my faves on tape. Great video!
Funny how the shitty cassette players end up having stronger vibe quality. I have a d6c (hand me down, I'm not rich) and with dolby c noise reduction the thing sounds like a cd
The fun in cassettes for me is how wildly the quality varies. For a fraction of the price an LP costs these days, you can roll the dice on a tape and get sound quality that's anywhere between absolutely wrecked and the cleanest thing you've ever heard.
I have a Doobie Brothers tape that sounds better thru my late 70s analog rig than FLACs in my modern digital rig.
@@ratman262 It's hilarious how right you are about that.
I picked up a few new (to me) tapes the other day, and they ran the gamut from literally unplayable garbage-like they actually slowed the player to a stop-to ones so crisp I heard new parts of music I'd head dozens of times before.
It's like a musical slot machine.
I agree, i have a sony tc-rx311 which is a lower end machine but with some nice type iis and dolby c on its close enough to digital that a lot of the time i forget im listening to a cassette lol
Agreed, I may enjoy good quality music but I love the sound of music off of the FM Radio or an Audio Cassette
As soon as I saw the System of a Down album I got real excited, hope you find a vinyl of Toxicity that would go unbelievably hard.
I’m glad he got into vinyl now because back then, their self titled album was only available as a bootleg vinyl. I don’t think Dankpods would’ve liked that lol
@@dalemau5 Meanwhile I grabbed a copy of their self-titled CD, _forgot to pay for it_ and played that in my XBOX while blasting in Quantum Redshift. No alarms, no fuss, no nothing. Just walkin' out with a CD.
Sometimes the old scratchy static-y vinyl sound adds and indescribably air to music, i feel like thats especially true the heavier you go
Honestly the biggest reason I got into vinyl was to experience my fav albums in entirely different ways, but it was those beautiful massive album covers and artwork that really make me love it. And to hold my favorite music in my hand really is mesmerizing.
this is exactly it!
Thank you for explaining exactly my same opinion on vinyl, my favorite albums I buy in vinyl have been electronic music made in the digital age but due to the mixing is just a separate experience, and physically taking care of music is a cathartic experience
Your point about the fussiness is so spot on! I love the way vinyl makes me appreciate an album as a whole a lot more, and searching through the cabinet for whats going to be next instead of just shuffling through my playlist.
Same goes for all kinds of stuff, got rid of my Nespresso pod machine for a manual setup with grinder, manual espresso machine, etc.
I love taking time for the things I love to experience it better and in the end making me happier. It's not all about fast and easy for many people anymore.
Hey dank, no idea if your gonna see this, but I have been loving your content for around 2 years now! Still loving the content!
Today learned that System of a Down is apparently one of Dank's all time favourite albums. Good man!
He also has a copy of the self-titled album and Toxicity on cassette in his other channel's video about a metal band shooting a video in his warehouse.
The only bad thing about soad is that they don't make albums anymore.
Seeing SOAD next to Miles Davis on vinyl warms my heart.
@@ronbali3429 I know. Genocidal Humanoids sounded like it could have been on their first record, and Protect the Land sounded like it was off Mezmerize/Hypnotize. I'm thankful for at least those tracks, but a full album would be amazing. Daron Malakian recorded some songs he wrote for the next potential SOAD album, and they're on his second record, Dictator. Unfortunately, Serj doesn't want to record any more albums with System. I'm lucky to have seen them live in 2015 and 2019, and they were incredible. Just wish they'd hit the studio together again.
I just recently found a vinyl player (Dual CS 721 „Made in Germany“) on the rooftop of my parents house, and my dad allowed me to take it with me and told me that he got it for pretty cheap from a friend when he studied in Hamburg. Now I have already 9 Vinyls and all of them I got for a price of 2€ to 5€ at some second hand shops in my town.
On the rooftop!? What!?
@@someguyonyoutube9279he may have meant attic
My vinyl player was given to me by my grandpa along with like 80 vinyls.
Dual are effin good players
I know u didn't ask but I'm a know-it-all and physically have to correct you. It's not 'Vinyls' it is 'Records'
7:15 I fully expected Scarlet Fire sounds to come out of that 😂
3:46 he didn’t even do anything, his PKCELL just wanted attention bc it hasn’t gotten any in a while
Hot take; All new Vinyl should come with bandcamp codes by law!
I love having my Igorrr records but also having access to the songs in FLAC.
I second this motion
some labels already do that :)
Yeah I've heard some do that
Also the opposite: buy the digital, get the physical by paying shipping.
Yes, I know there's more costs involved, but damn lack of the physicals even existing for some stuff is sad.
One time I bought a new record from the store, released a year prior. I was really hyped because it had a huge hype sticker saying "THIS COMES WITH WAV DOWNLOAD CODES!!" and... it actually did!
...but they were expired.
Nothing crushes the soul quite like it.
I love the way vinyl smells, too, tbh (which is more true for the older records)
Can't wait to see your take in cassettes 🤓
I like vinyl more
Honestly same, unironically
8-track supremacy (unironically)
I stray far, far away from cassettes just because of how fragile and self-destructive they are. Vinyl records tend to have a good life span if you take good care of them. Tapes, by comparison, wear out more quickly over time, even if you don't touch them for years. Maintenance is also pretty much out the window since you can't spot clean them like vinyl, lest they suffer water damage. It's like a built-in self-destruct sequence that you can't do a thing about.
@@silhouettoofaman2935 If you say so...
Records like that hold a special place in my heart. For years I used a Newcomb record player in my warehouse when I got sick of using my headphones. I ended up selling it and my record collection when I lost my job and fell on hard times at the start of 2021. Things are looking up but i miss that record player and my Marty Robbins album most of all.
I've actually started using vinyl to discover new music. If I see an album cover that interests me or a coloured record, I pick it up. Found some great artists that I'm not sure I would've discovered otherwise.
When I was in college I used to close my eyes and buy a random record out of the "new releases" bin every month or so. It was honestly a great way to discover new music. I think that's how I first heard the Fleet Foxes.
@@BokBarber Great recommendation. I'll definitely get them on the to-buy list. Check out Black Pumas or Superfood if you haven't heard them already. Two that I hadn't heard of prior to owning their LPs.
II do the same. My local record store, Orbit Music, has a section of vinyl that's 25 cents for the EPs and singles, and 50 cents for the LPs. It's all the records he gets that don't have covers, sometimes messed up labels, or maybe they have a skip or two. I'll go in about once a month, spend about $5, and sometimes he'll even let me grab like 2-3 extras for free. I always find at least 2-3 records that I enjoy. Occasionally, I find one that I enjoy enough to buy a better copy of.
i like buying them because its a great way to support smaller bands since spotify pays so little
Lame reason
Buy CDs
@@TheFreeBro not really
@@Alepap. CDs are like the little brother nobody wanted.
@@Fuerwahrhalunke but the little brother we needed
This is the exact same reason I love my 1970's Sony reel to reel tape recorder. Excellent sound quality and I get to see two discs spin slowly around and VU meters dancing to the bass.
I just took 3 tests this morning and I just finished. I’m tired and stressed but one thing that makes me going is your Chanel! Thank you DankPods.
- PS I live in New Zealand 🇳🇿 Country Neighbors!
Say goodbye to ya head, Wankah!
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Vinyl: Ight Imma Head Out.
0:40 system of a down! Classic album.
I got into vinyl a couple years ago, I only buy 180 gram albums because They feel better in the hand. There’s just something magical of watching the needle hit the vinyl, it truly is a beautiful way to listen to your favorite songs. I can’t tell a difference in the quality from my computer, something about holding the music in your hands makes it feel different
180g vinyl is less prone to warping as well
Hell yeah! I've been into vinyl for summat like five years now, and it's all because of the experience and the collector's satisfaction value for me. I love laying a beautifully pressed disc on the turntable then kicking back on the couch to just listen to it without doing anything else.
Watching this makes me realize the similarities between Audio and Photography. Most people know digital pictures are better but a bunch still choose to shoot film for those vibes.
Tbh large format film is in terms of price to resolution ratio superior
@Jet Addict Maybe if you only count financial costs and not cost to sanity.
@@Jsoberon yes
Exactly! When I listen to vinyl, it's really a moment that I want to relax and focus into listening to music
Cheers, Dank. I'll gladly admit that I'm no audiophile, and that the clarity and depth of digital music is unmatched by analogue media. But, there's just a weird warmth and character that vinyl brings that just doesn't seem to be able to be reproduced digitally. There's something special about dropping the needle on my old HMV radiogram and enjoying music the way my grandparents did back in the 50's and early 60's.
I have no clue about vinyl, I just wanted to take a moment to appreciate the Absolution album art. So simple, yet so effective.
This video is just perfect
Got a vinyl player for christmas because I had ordered two vinyls from one of my favorite artists (Lauren Bousfield babygirl I love you) because they were for sale and I thought they were pretty, and after receiving them I decided I actually did want to have a listen. I never saw this video you made about it until just now, but I independently arrived at the exact same conclusions you did. It's not about the quality, it's about how *magic* they are. People say they're shitty because you can't get dust on them, or if there's some random vibration you can hear it, but I honestly love hearing the bits of dust on the vinyl and being able to lightly tap the player to hear the thump it causes. These things make it feel like the closest you can get to being able to lovingly caress a medium that inherently is not a physical one. It's an imperfect expression of the medium, but the imperfections feel like those a person might have; the imperfections that make them feel like a living, breathing human
You did it, mate, you finally made me feel really old on the internet! hahaha While you were talking about how complicated and fiddly vinyl can be, I was here going "...but I used to listen to them every day as a kid!" A lot of my favorite music to this day is music I used to listen to on my parents' turntable. This was so interesting and funny to watch because vinyl was second nature to me, it was like riding my bike. Like you said, it was part of my routine. Now I wish we still had the big rig to listen to our vinyl collection again!
Well, there's only one thing to it, then, I guess: get yourself a decent amp and player... At least if you still have your records...
I love vinyl and I'm very happy to see you getting into it Dank. I'll never say it's better than digital sound quality wise, but better experience wise. Love my record player and all my vinyl records
Digital audio is perfect, is the imperfection that makes vynil and reel/tape good
I remember my experience with vinyl. I got a turntable from an 80s console stereo at a pawn shop for 40 bucks with a broken needle. Thirty-five bucks to Audio-Technica (plus a week) later, I had a new needle. I plugged the turntable right into my surround receiver and was very let down with how quiet it was because I'd never known what a preamp was. So, another 20 bucks on Amazon (AND AN ADDITIONAL WEEK) later, I have a preamplifier and I'm rocking and rolling. Now, yes, yes. Knock my cheap setup all you want. I was a student on a student's budget. I had maybe 800 dollars a month to live on.
But yes, it does feel like magic. I remember being absolutely being blown away by just how _good_ it sounds. Back when I was into it, I would have a blast throwing some Modest Mouse on and kicking back on the sofa for 20 minutes before having to get up to flip it. Absolutely loved it back in my days in university. I'm into CDs nowadays because with my cheap, mid-end equipment, the audio quality is just as good, and it's insanely easy to get the FLACs on my home PC and my cell phone. Also, my turntable stopped turning. So I gave all my vinyls to my sister, who is super big into them right now. I used to have the big chungus Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness collector's edition that came out in 2012 because I was hardcore into the Smashing Pumpkins. I actually had a hard time finding it in my college town (population of about 9,000) and the closest store that had one was over an hour and a half away. I called that store and asked them to hold it for me because I was on my way to buy it. And they did! I'll never forget the sheer excitement of getting to open that puppy and spin it up. Absolutely one of the best days of 2012 for me.
But I totally agree it's a different vibe. When I wasn't working or studying, I just needed time to relax. Time to not move or think. And the vibe you get from vinyl is absolutely that. With vinyl, so much more of the experience is manual that you feel like you had a greater part in making it happen. So when you go to listen to it, there's this psychological connection that makes you feel more immersed in it. It's absolutely one of my favorite ways to listen.
honestly what you've spent is just fine, imo dankpods overspent. With the actual quality of vinyl, you really don't need expensive gear for it to sound as good as it'll get. The biggest investment in your system should be the speakers or headphones.
The RIAA curve reversal and some amplification is a not-that-complicated analog circuit. It doesn't take a whole heck of a lot to do it "correctly." You can go ridiculous and use 100VA transformers and six stages of filtering on the power rails to bring the noise floor down another 3dB, but honestly, vinyl is not a perfect medium. Trying to squeeze perfection out of it is like chasing a high that never ends. You want 120dB S/N and 0-20kHz bandwidth? Play a wave file.
I grew up on vinyl, and experienced all of the formats since then (8-track, cassette, mp3). While the convenience of mp3/digital formats is wonderful, my first love is vinyl. Records were produced differently for this format: they usually told a story of some sort, and were arranged to listen to the songs in a specific order. The discs selected for this are the cream of the crop... especially Miles Davis's "Kind of Blue". I still listen to that vinyl often, and every time, I hear something new... ever after 50 years. Long Live Vinyl!
I'm a vinyl man through my mother and if I'm at home I'll always pop on a vinyl. Gotta say the system of a down album from 1998 is down right my favourite listen :)
As a vinyl owner, i will attest that is one if the best way to experience your favorite albums.
Only downside yet is that some song have to be mixed differently so that the needle won't skip, which isn't a problem most of the time, but i was disapointed when i bought the "cross" album by Justice, and ONLY my two favourite songs were affected by the mixing. The trumpet synths at the beginning of "Genesis" had a bit of the top cut off but it's only the intro so who cares. The real bummer was "Waters of Nazareth", big chunks of the bass and treble were absent.
Other than that, vinyl is cool for the vibe.
See, i read this and as read what got cut from the album, i said outloud "what's even the point?"
I have never read anything so sad
@@TalDSruler Well, the other songs are perfectly fine, i have another Justice vinyl ("Woman" if you want to know) and it sounds excellent. For the rest of my vinyls, everything sounds like the original. Only some rare ones are like this (the ones that are too bassy or too high pitch, and the need to go VERY low/high to get cut out).
@@placeholder739 Right on my dude. I'm glad your other records turned out so nice.
I love my vinyl. I inherited all of my grandmas 80s rock and the crackle is just so nostalgic and really just brings up my mood. And I only play it through a Bluetooth speaker 😅
Playing journeys greatest hits and having to get up and flip it over is just so enjoyable
You got some banger music taste man. System of a down and Rage against the machine are some of my favourite artists
Yea qotsa is amazing
missing cypress Hill and ministry 😁
I started to collect vinyl/records and cassettes at the ending of 2021, and it feels amazing to collect these formats of music!
One of the reasons I love vinyl is going to a music shop and spending time thumbing through albums and discovering old gems. Which you can often pick up for a buck or two
In hmv they are 20 pounds minimum
@@Turnaround72 I meant local small business music stores that stock used albums in addition to newer releases
I grew up right in the middle of the CD-MP3 transition, and I've recently got into vinyl. I've got an incredibly entry-level player (literally a suitcase model with a built-in speaker) but it still sounds great to my ear, and I just love it. The little ritual of cleaning the disk, setting it on the turntable, and lowering the needle onto the disk is really pleasant, and I like the little crackles and pops in the background.
I definitely agree with you on the "modern disks are way better" point though. I've got a recent Paul Simon collection, and the disk just feels so much weightier and higher quality than some of the paper-thin disks from the late '80s.
For me the love of vinyl comes from the process. Listening to records is slow and time consuming but that process has made me fall in love with music all over again.
I absolutely love your view on vinyl, where it doesn't sound better than digital, but it still sounds amazing in its own way. I was hoping you'd get into vinyl one day, so I'm glad you're enjoying it!
The funniest part of that statement is that it’s factually incorrect depending what platform it was originally made for. This is the only video I’ve disliked by him because it’s full of false statements because he refused to research and fact check what he was told.
@Kitsunae Nae {Tyler Bray} I like vinyl better than digital but digital is far more capable than vinyl
Let's be honest: lots of music online sounds awful because it's badly digitally compressed and has easily-heard digital artifacts and sounds flat. The idea of 'digital is better' hinges entirely on digital music actually BEING better-sounding than other formats, and it rarely approaches, let alone exceeds, CD quality. It's highly disingenous when an argument pits 'the average person's pops-and-clicks casual vinyl experience vs. 32-bit floating point studio quality digital', when reality is 'most digital music is about convenience over sound quality, and people who know how to use records properly can for-sure get better sound quality than average streaming'.
@@Kitsunae_NaeL.
Never gonna give you up mf. :)
Oh man, the fun you can get with coloured vinyl, it’s my jam. You think the artwork is amazing, wait till you come across a vintage green disc with black and white marbling through it. And then there’s Jack White and Third Man Records. Holy crap! The stuff they’ve done! The produced an LP that plays at 33, 45, and 78, has a song with two different starts, depending on where the needle falls, has locked grooves on both sides, and here’s the awesomest thing Dank, it has a hologram! I kid you not, they etched the vinyl so that when the light hits it right, a little angel spins around. Oh yeah, the disc in half blue, half white. And one side is matte, the other glossy. I’d love for you to see it.
I have no idea who they are but Holy fuck that sounds amazing
Ive never been as proud as i am now to see Dank hold Absolution on Vinyl, fantastic record by the best band on this planet! Cheers mate!
Yeah I was really happy seeing that.
Also, nice avatar
I got quite exited seeing the thumbnail to say the least! ;P
My thoughts exactly! Wish I could have gotten my hands on the Origin of Symmetry XX, but shipping is so expensive right now
@@joaorichter9970 thats a shame! It is worth the the wait though!
@@joaorichter9970 i couldn't afford it when it released, but im desperate to listen to the early demos again, now they're gone from youtube.
You perfectly described the reasons why I got into vinyl as an adult and why I love it. From the childhood memories, to the owning your favorite albums in a beautiful medium, to the hypnotic wonder I you feel watching that disc spin. There is no need to justify it or compare it to digital music, it is just a fun hobby for enthusiasts.
At 7:24 I swear I thought Scarlet Fire was gonna start playing
0:22 scared me
You have an amazing collection. I've loved every single album you showed and I'm proud to recognize them all, great taste.
My mom, dad and I are Technics enthusiasts and we have Technics turntables, even I have one at my place. I think they sound amazing and I love the whole routine of taking the vinyl out carefully, placing it on the turntable, turning it on and gently using the vinyl brush to collect all the dust, pressing that button and watching the arm come to life. I don’t discriminate against any way of listening to music but I highly recommend vinyls. It’s an entirely different experience.
I've never stopped listening to entire albums at a time. It's the only way I listen to music. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one when I see some short transitional track with a tiny fraction of the listens as its neighboring tracks on spotify. You better believe I'm listening to that one too.
I remember saying to my parents "let's build a vynil collection!" and they enthusiastically told me i buy a couple of records and they would buy the turntable. I come home with the new foo fighters album for me and a great 70's italian pop album they love, plus a couple of classics and a jazz record.
They got the worst turntable they could manage to get, it has inbuilt speakers they suck and if you connect a jack it get WORSE
Lmao they saw you coming a mile away - props to the guys at the store for making you pay 5x more than you needed to. All you needed was a Project Primary and a Schiit Mani. $529 and I guarantee you wouldn't be able to hear a difference between it and the player and pre-amp you bought.
I have a Rega P1 Plus. Even though I rarely touched it these days because it is not with me currently, I enjoyed every moment using it. There's something about the sound that vinyl produces, and seeing that vinyl spinning is truly amazing. One thing that I was surprised is how much of an effort it takes to take care of the turntable and especially the vinyl; static, sleeves, dusts and etc.
Still, love the whole experience very much!
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Sun is shinin' in the sky
There ain't a cloud in sight
It's stopped rainin' everybody's in the play
And don't you know
It's a beautiful new day, hey hey
Runnin' down the avenue
See how the sun shines brightly in the city
On the streets where once was pity
Mr. Blue Sky is living here today, hey hey
Mr. Blue Sky please tell us why
You had to hide away for so long (so long)
Where did we go wrong?
Mr. Blue Sky please tell us why
You had to hide away for so long (so long)
Where did we go wrong?
Hey you with the pretty face
Welcome to the human race
A celebration, Mr. Blue Sky's up there waitin'
And today is the day we've waited for
Oh Mr. Blue Sky please tell us why
You had to hide away for so long (so long)
Where did we go wrong?
Hey there Mr. Blue
We're so pleased to be with you
Look around see what you do
Everybody smiles at you
Hey there Mr. Blue
We're so pleased to be with you
Look around see what you do
Everybody smiles at you
Mr. Blue, you did it right
But soon comes Mr. Night creepin' over
Now his hand is on your shoulder
Never mind I'll remember you this
I'll remember you this way
Mr. Blue Sky please tell us why
You had to hide away for so long (so long)
Where did we go wrong?
Hey there Mr. Blue (sky)
We're so pleased to be with you (sky)
Look around see what you do (blue)
Everybody smiles at you
Good job
Wish I was...
A wild west hero.
This is like why I always get a CD for my favorite albums, it's probably sounds the same as my apple music version. But I still love the physical things lol
Not same as iTunes at least, unless they started to sell lossless. Compared to that it does sound better.
Compared to ripping it to your device in lossless, identical indeed, mathematically identical perfect copy. I just can't get my head around paying for just some files... Having the CD in hand is the real fan thing to do.
Same here! It’s a wonderful compromise. The ritual is still there (albeit less fiddly), the physical aspect is there (just smaller), and it’s cheaper!
Also CDs certainly are better quality than standard - not lossless - streaming, with the added bonus that you now *own* the music and can rip it to your computer or whatever and no stupid music label execs can take it down for dumb reasons.
i wish car stereos still had cd players in them
using Bluetooth on my phone just isn't the same as having the music on a physical thing
a cd for me is more reliable and doesn't need charging (although after about 5 hours it turns off so it doesn't get too hot)
I usually get a CD to get lossless music that isn't on streaming (I just hate the idea of not having it locally and someone deciding to some day remove it from the servers), because only some music can be easily bought as downloadable lossless files. But there is also a certain appeal in owning CDs, and even when it is released on Bandcamp (they have FLAC files), I often buy the CD as well. Ath home it is also convenience, because I don't have to rummage through the file system, just pop the CD off the rack and spin it. And a bit of showing off to yourself and maybe others, like with owning signed or rare CDs. The height of it was for me buying "Downside Up" by Siouxsie and the Banshees from Tidal (yes, you can actually buy music from Tidal and it's lossless), and later hunting it down on Ebay despite it being really expensive and hard to find. But I just love that album so much that I just had to have it, vertically on my shelf, ready to play. This and the booklet. You never get the booklet with digital download (almost, I think I did get one once, but that was in early 2000s).
@@nyaaanjake The srteaming plague is what worries me for future archaeological reasons, the music from streaming era would be gone literally like tears in the rain. Overwritten with newer music or recycled with the server itself, and no historical record to be seen. I just want to believe that at least the content we now enjoy will remain for future generations when we are all dead and gone.
The reason I'm getting into analog camera is the same reason why I drowning into vinyl; it delivers the experience that digital stuff can't do
This concept of listening to an entire album (and simply accumulating physical media) is what attracted me to use cassettes actually.
Man this is such a great take on vinyl. I absolutely love my setup with an old B&O table and mix of old and new records. Been enjoying vinyl since I was a kid and inherited my grandmother's mediocre disk collection and cheap table. Just another great rabbit hole to drop money into.
Collecting vinyl for me is basically doomsday prepping to ensure Ive always got my faves
Me too lol
Heyo, long time 1 GRIT fan! I've been collecting vinyl for over 10 years now and it's so cool to get to see people's enthusiasm discovering it all for the first time (it's a plastic circle that you *drag a little rock across* to make noise!). I wanted to offer some of my favorite things about collecting, as well as some tips for beginners on a budget!
Things I love about collecting vinyl (not an exhaustive list, and this is also in addition to everything you highlighted):
- connecting more with the music and artist. From lyric sheets, to additional art, pictures, notes, posters, inserts of all kinds, the larger format allows artists to include more besides just the music. Like bonus features, but for your favorite albums!
- better funding for the artists you love! A $28 record is going to support the artist much more than a 0.000000000001¢ stream will, and you're getting a piece of art you can hold on your hand for the deal, not a stream of a fine that would go away should you not pay a monthly fee.
- collecting stuff is just nice. You should try it 😄
Some tips for beginners on a budget:
Getting a viable and cheap stereo setup can be way easier than you'd think! The equipment that was A+ in the 90's usually wasn't built poorly, and will still sound and work great in a modern setup. A TON of people that kept very good care of their equipment will give it to places like Goodwill, or sell it for cheap at garage sales. I personally have gotten all but my turntable, center channel speaker and preamp from Goodwill, and I've never been disappointed. A very quality 5.1 receiver from the early 2010s cost me around $30, you can easily find a good pair of bookshelf speakers for $10-$25 a pair, a subwoofer will usually be one of the priciest bits, closer to $50+ (but definitely something most can live without or pick up later), and a roll of speaker wire will be $5-$10 and you're ready to jam! Bonus, you likely now have a seriously solid home theater setup too 👌
- when it comes to buying your first albums, there aren't really any wrong answers, this is about what you enjoy and are interested in. I've been collecting over a decade, and there are still many albums that I'm sure many people would describe as "essential for any collection" that I still don't have, and many albums that I'm sure most would not consider worth much, that I've spent a solid chunk of change to acquire, and that's okay, because I love what I have, and that's what's important. If you want to start your collection by picking up 10 classic used albums from a thrift store, go for it! If you want to start your collection by pre-ordering your favorite artists upcoming new album on vinyl, go for it!
Enjoy! 🫶💎🎚️🎧
0:04 MUSE ABSOLUTION...!!!!! that's MUSE best work right here fellas
Drone spotted 👀
change… everything you are…
I prefer OoS and potentially BHaR too but absolution is a great album, so glad to see any mention of Muse
This talk about the same experience with a different vibe has really made me want to listen to my old iPod again. Thanks DankPods!
I'll need to actually find it first, though...