Jordan Peterson on Women's Studies (from Joe Rogan Experience
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2016
- This clip is taken from the Joe Rogan Experience podcast #877 with Jordan Peterson ( • Video ), also available for download via iTunes & Stitcher (bit.ly/2fEMRNn).
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"I was teaching in the US at that point."
"Which university?"
"I taught at Harvard."
Pretty rare that people don't lead with "I taught at Harvard." Seems like a pretty humble dude.
DeleriousZ Wants your respect for his ideas not his resume. very commendable
Joe Hirstein If that was Reza Aslan speaking, he would've mentioned it first thing.
That's because he was an assistant and an associate professor at Harvard, not a full professor, and he doesn't want you to know that.
+DeleriousZ
I think he puts a lot of effort into being honest about everything so he comes across as being very "clear". There's no attitude or hidden signalling going on, he just says, "I taught at Harvard" and immediately stops thinking about that.
DeleriousZ great point I didn't even realize until you mentioned it - probably why you have so many likes
Worst advice I got in my life was from a high school guidance councillor - he told me I was going to University. He didn't particularly care about whether I wanted to go or not, I was "intelligent" and that meant University. It meant going to become an Electrical Engineer, not an Electrician. It meant going to become a Geologist or Architect, not a Stone Mason or Carpenter or Plumber. The Trades were for the "Dumb" kids (the kids taking the "General" level courses, compared to the kids like me who were taking all "Advanced" level courses in high school).
It didn't matter that I loved working with my hands. It didn't matter that I liked to be out doors and to build stuff. That was for the Trades, and the Trades were for the people who weren't smart enough to get into University, or to take "Advanced" level courses. I was "smart". I was "intelligent". I was going to University - it was just a matter of which one and what subject.
If I could go back 25 years and give myself one piece of advice, I'd drag my 17yr old self out to a "Trades College" and say "Go here. Take Carpentry. Take Plumbing. Take Electrical Studies. Take Heritage Masonry. Take Welding. (Wait, no, not welding, sorry) Take ANY of those courses for 2 years. Get a damn good job. Take a few years to think about what it is you really want to do for the rest of your life. Save up $20,000 - it won't be hard when you're working in the trades, unmarried, no kids and pretty much no student debt. Then when you've got an idea of what you want to do with your life, then - and ONLY THEN - go to a University to get a degree in what you want. For Dawkins sake DO NOT GO TO UNIVERSITY BECAUSE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO BECAUSE YOU'RE "SMART" - you're not smart. You're not intelligent. You're a 17yr old who can do really well on some tests and you can learn things pretty fast compared to your peer group. You're actually a moron who knows nothing. Grow up before you go to University - and if that means you don't go until you're 22, fine. No, Grown Up isn't about age - look at your Guidance Councillor - he's in his 50's and he still hasn't grown up. Otherwise he wouldn't sit you down and lead with "What University do you want to go to?" instead of "What do you want to do with your life?""
A Dude I love this comment so much. You have no idea. This coming from a guy about to get his MA in two days. You nail it right on the head.
Thanks dude
That advice is very strategic and a very good advice for poor people. If u can't afford college, work for a few years, save money, invest some money and learn a skills u wanna sell to the marketplace. And after u accumulated lota money, that's the perfect time to follow ur passion or major in college
That hit deep man, wish I knew the same thing after all these years of study and debt with no real useful skills
I was smart enough and able to go to university but chose not to. 1. I was going to start out in debt. (That should tell you something right there) 2. I was going to have to take a bunch of courses I was not interested in for four years of my life minimum. 3. When I got out of college I was still going to have to work for someone else while trying to pay off a massive debt. 4. I’m a general contractor and I make more than two or three college grads combined. Just to put it into perspective in terms of hourly rates. We do a lot of government work so on those jobs we pay our employees prevailing wage. The guy you see holding the stop sign (a laborer) makes about $40 an hour. Regular jobs our laborers make about $28. Educated and intelligent or two different things. You can’t teach intelligence.
My son is 3 months away from graduating from trade school (with no debt) and I couldn't be prouder!
So why didn't he do womens studies? Don't tell me they assumed his gender!
@@chrisgould101 yo!!!😂😭
Good for him! These institutes are killing education itself
"if you're the sort of person that thinks that if you would've been in control then things would have gone a lot better, then you're exactly the sort of person that should never be in control" JP's wisdom being mind blowing as per usual :)
I come for sanity in the comment section 😂
If you think that's mind blowing, this has been said pretty much verbatim over 3000 years ago by none other than Lao Tzu.
Except that he wants to give you his advice.
He is saying that. He has already claimed he is fan of patriarchy. He is fan of men being in control just because they're men
It's totally fallacious. Multiple types of people can think they would have done a better job. It's not like there are just two alternatives - western style or marxist style.
The invisible force that keeps women down is called gravity.
😂😂😂
Bravo sir
Sexist pig
@@s0bad shut your mouth...you shouldnt be allowed to speak😂
@@s0bad Lol gravity affects men too you mental midget 😁
“You should think again there Sunshine”
-JP
lol, my dawg.
LMAOOOOO
He's honest! The irony is people's taxes and tuition are paying for the sabotage of social balance and gender segregation. That's funny! Sounds like Stand Up Comedy.
Haha
Yes, I've always liked it when he said that line.
Cringe!
The guy from Harvard says send your kids to trade school.😂😂😂
(The guy who failed to get tenure at Harvard and is still butthurt about it.)
Lol, not everyone needs to go to Ivy League colleges.
M G I’m sure Peterson meteoric success speaks for itself.
@@margaret6839 I can't remember the last time or anytime in my 57 yrs. on this planet I've ever heard anyone say "quick call a Harvard professor "
That goes for a" Woman's studies Professor "or any SJW radical professor .
Truth is the left fuck themselves in academia , Participation in the marxist education indoctrination is going to be starved out by society and the "Harvard's and Stanford's and other SJW universities" will die and so will the Ideology that consumed them .
I have been found out and recently Harvard professors with their communist Chinese spy's have been indicted for crimes .
the SJW professors and now even Democrat Governors caught up colluding with the communist Chinese government for cash and prizes .
Color me shocked that the Marxist professors and the Marxist Democrats are in cahoots with the communist to destroy America .
Todd Holladay pete bittgeg and Mike Bloomberg and Bernie Sanders fuck all the democts running
I remember being an 18 year old kid going to community college enrolled in social science (basically, because I didn't know what to do with my life)… I had an Anthropology or Human Civilization class and the female teacher would bombard us with all kinds of documentaries stating that early human civilization was matriarchal with female goddesses being all important only to be overthrown by men / patriarchy at later stages. I remember believing this and being like 'Whoa', I didn't know that... I learned something interesting. Never would've it dawned on me that a teacher in an institution of higher learning would use the classroom as pulpit to push her own ideology. Peterson is totally right that students are getting social engineering theories and ideology, NOT FACTS and it's disgusting.
I think the most appropriate term for early society was that it was egalitarian, not matriarchal. The recovered artifacts show an appreciation towards the female sex, suggesting that women were “valued”, but I don’t think that’s evidence for a matriarchy... at least from what I remember from my World History Class. Women and men were equal. I think that’s a pretty cool thing to strive for.
@@savannahanderson8758 luckily we are equal in Western society, much more so than almost any other culture on the planet
@@savannahanderson8758 Women were valued only for their fertility not much else. Sounds like a feminist hell to me. All that ugly hetero coupling an all.
The worshiped female gods alright and then they went over to the neighbouring village, killed all of the men and abducted the wonen, just like the later "patriarchal" Israelites.
Lol the same exact thing happened to me. I went to a philosophy class and I had to watch a music video with women talking about the patriarchy and a music video that compared Republicans to nazis. I went to work the next day and ask people if this is normal and they were like ya that's common at colleges lol 🙃
Damn, watching this in 2020 is like watching a prophecy unfold.
@Leo Mulgrew *week
@Frogger does that matter? It's the past, what he said is happening...
@Frogger touche
it's not a prophecy you bloody idiot, they had these problems way before you did
@@tariqbaker9027 its been happening for a decade....
"They're protesting the burden of being". WOW. That's it in a nutshell. JBP is amazing.
...and so, it is no surprise that the latest wave of far Left madness, proclaims that humans should not exist ...for the benefit of the planet.
One of the 1st lectures I ever heard JBP give was a 2 hour explanation on the "structure of being". Blew me away.
@@cmojo68 Well, the good news is, they're not having kids. Because having kids is bad for the planet. So as long as parents manage to impart some sense into their children, the generation after the current one ought to get better.
In the absence of a God to blame the burden existence for, they elevate White Male to the status of God, and then blame that group for every evil. So basically they're figuring out that life is hard. I guess they never got the memo.
EveryChevyChase thank you for saying this!! It frustrates me how the first sources I see on Google all misunderstand his teachings and degrade him at the same time. It baffles me
As someone who survived a Canadian university, I agree.
Nice
How is it?
Can you explain to me? Im an Indonesian and have an interest to study there in two years.
It would be helpful.
a tar probably liberal af
@@SubscriberswithDankPlaylists I'm in uni now (UTM) it's fine.
I know 3 women who took women's studies. The first left her husband and 2 of her 3 children for another woman. She took her daughter, who was calling dad in tears, to come get her after a few days.The second was already a lesbian I met once. She seemed a little strange.
The third was a woman who believes very much in women's rights. She thinks about herself as a feminist. Womens safety has always been one of her main concerns. Rape, domestic violence, etc. She was just as much against domestic violence against men. She believes a woman should have the choice to work or be a stay at home mother without judgement either way. She was also big in pushing women's sports. Very much about fairness.
She took 3 classes and quit. She said she felt extremely uncomfortable in that class. This is a woman who spent an entire summer as a pretty young thing working in an all male environment. Yet, in a class full of women she felt uncomfortable and did not feel free to express any opinions. They scared her. The class also made her feel scared for her father and brothers. She basically said they were all crazy extremist nut cases.
I decide not to take women's studies.
Ya, I’ve played in girl bands my whole life. We played this “feminist” woman’s show, this one time. Those bitches were crazy!! I was genuinely terrified! & I was born & raised in an inner city! Felt way safer in the inner city 😆😆😆
It's pretty much a gang of Neanderthals. I feel sorry for the sane ones. Women studies is a waste of time. You don't need to get a degree in social issues to be an expert on social issues. In fact most social issues classes are nothing more than indoctrination camps. If you want to change the world, become a scientist. There aren't enough people innovating, especially girls.
Gawd that brings back memories. I innocently took a Gender Studies class once my senior year, thinking that it would be a class exploring the biological differences between men and women. I know, I know, I was pretty oblivious back in my university days. I didn't know any better.
But I took the class and ended up more confused than I'd ever been in my life. My professor was a night owl and she seemed to have a vendetta against society being structured around daytime hours. We were given a paper with photos of various men dressed in various attire along with 1 photo of a woman. We were then told to rank each of these ppl, based on appearance alone, on how well we thought they could protect us from a physical threat.
Everyone in the class aside from me ranked the woman either first or somewhere in the middle. I ranked her last. The professor asked me why and I replied with my usual honesty, "Because she's a woman."
The entire class went into an uproar and I got yelled at by 2 women before the professor managed to get the class under control. I somewhat LESS accidentally provoked another uproar that week, just to test the waters, and the professor pulled me aside to ask if I wanted to transfer out of her class.
I didn't bc, oddly enough for someone like me who tries to avoid conflict whenever possible, I had gotten a taste for blood and wanted to keep rattling the bars as I was fascinated by the response; it provided an odd sort of high that someone quiet and nonconfrontational like myself had never experienced.
Unfortunately, my final paper-- though well-researched and well-written-- was not of the right opinion and my professor knocked my grade down so much that I wouldn't have been able to graduate that year. So I took my paper to the Dean and appealed to him. I graduated on time.
Many years later, I revisited my university and am grateful I got out when I did. It's worse now than it was when I was a student.
So the first one girl had marital issues, and the second girl was just a little weird and a lesbian (not sure why her sexuality is relevant). Not sure how any of that is related to women studies. Just sounds like the usual stuff that people go through. Divorce, exploring one's sexuality, etc,.
The third woman is experiencing what typically happens in any environment in which a certain type of political philosophy is dominant. You don't want to speak out, because you're the oddball in the room. Personally, I've always played devil's advocate in any classroom discussions that i've had because I hate circle jerks, but I know a lot of people don't want to speak if they feel like they'll be alone in their opinion. It's human nature.
Not sure why she was afraid for her father and brothers. Like what does she think the feminists in that classroom are going to do them? Kidnap them and sacrifice them? Become politicians and take away their human rights?
I'm really getting sick of the phrase "This X political thing scares/terrifies me." Like people are always talking about how scared they are of shit. It's obnoxious, most of the things they're scared about aren't even remotely threatening to their daily lives or the daily lives of anybody they know.
Peterson's critiquing of Women's Studies was unsettling enough, particularly his statement that universities these days are just institutions that fill students' heads full of nonsense about "tearing down the Patriarchy", generally hating on men and working towards some Communist Utopia. Your comments three examples of actual cases of women who have studied this utter insanity at university, add even more weight, if it were even needed, to Dr Peterson's pretty scary assessment of the state of higher education now. Interesting, and offering SOME hope, the third example, of the woman who clearly saw the lunacy being taught, for what it was.
This guy is so right.
This guy is paranoid.
He's combining the worst from the left and generalizing too much.
I don't believe he is paranoid. The rate at which the left is radicalizing should be alarming, and all these kids coming out of these Universities are going to have children and bestow their Marxist values upon them. The alt-right is dangerous too, but much smaller in scope, most of the people who voted for Trump were moderates anyway. Plus, the mainstream media and entertainment culture is clearly allied with the far left. Can only hope Trump's brashness can alter the course of American culture to dump the PC insanity and adopt more honesty.
he's a professor and is challenged daily by sjw groups, and faculty. He is literally at the front lines of this paradigm shift in social reasoning.
I agree with you Deni. I think this guy is being hyperbolic and that's dangerous. He's calling women's studies marxism, and you can basically make all the same arguments about any ideology. This isn't a great discussion at all.
No he is not. The Soviet Union was a far right society . Marxism if you read actual Marx is the factory to the workers, maximum separation of power and so on. Democracy is more marxist than the Soviet Union. This guy is delusional. He is fighting ghosts.
"How am I failing Women's Studies?! I love bitches!"
Hoboken Joe-ker She said three words to me: stop, no, and don't. I told her I hear those words all the time, but it's usually, "No! Don't stop!"
Thomas Fleig You've never seen the movie "How High", have you?
Hoboken Joe-ker.... No why?
Thomas Fleig smh...
Thomas Fleig (sad sigh) Go watch the classic stoner movie "How High" and then get back to us. You'll know what we want you to see when you see it.
Wow he was on point 5 years ago. Look at it now. It can get much worse too.
Oh yeah, abolutely bang on
no kidding
@@Gallowglass7 Well jordan especially, he seems to be the only one to make sence of his field. We are in some serious trouble though with this diversity equity inclusion/woke
When I was in high school I had to sit down one on one with my guidance counselor and discuss my after high school plans, all four years I told her I wanted to join the military, every year she would try to convince me to go to college, finally my senior year in my last meeting with her she told me that not only should I go to college but that I NEEDED to. I told her that I didn't know of anything else besides the military that I would be interested in doing, she responded that I should just do general studies, I asked her what jobs that would help me get, she told me it was just a good stepping stone. I asked her where the money for going to college would come from, she told me to get a loan, I brought up the fact that if I joined the military it would at least give me a few more years to figure out what I wanted to do and then they would pay for my college, she then looked me in the eye and said "Only people who aren't smart join the military, I'd be very disappointed if any of my kids ever even spoke to a recruiter." I told her my dad who retired after 20 years of naval service would have a different opinion and I walked out of her office she yelled down the hall after me that the meeting wasn't over and I needed to sit back down but I kept walking. 6 years later I am an E-5, have been to 3 different countries, been apart of things I will never forget, finished my associates degree without ever sitting in a college classroom or enrolling in an online class, I did it all without using any of my college benefits or taking out a loan and I did it on my own time.
you did the smart thing, wanted to join the military, in 74 few ppl. did that, my younger brothers went in, did very well, got out and they are as smart as any college grad I know
E5 and an AS with full college bennies remaining - not bad at all
Badass
RESPECT!!!!
That guidance counselor just didn't like ur masculine energy lol I'm glad u walked out like a real man
"you should think again, sunshine." favorite part of the whole interview, which was absolutely great. I'd love to hear more from him.
Check out his youtube channel, Jordan B Peterson, great lectures and information
I love that part. 😂😂😂 I skipped back to it a few times. Reminded me of an 80’s action flick
For shorter clips of his lectures, try Bite-Sized Philosophy and TheArchangel911.
I had a major falling out with my sister over Jordan. She’s a pHD sociology professor at Berkeley. She’s the crown jewel of our family and I dared question her beliefs.
You didn't do anything wrong by questioning her beliefs. Stand up for yourself and hold your ground. Love her obviously but stand behind your beliefs if you really honestly believe they are correct.
My pov it's obvious Jordan is a wonderful man and is helping millions of people. But what's easy for us to see is hard for others. They may have had their vision altered by false ideas.
Best you can do is just live really well and love your sister. Love and truth has a beautiful eay of always winning in the end.
God bless
@@whitestoneandy797 beautiful words my man, your positivity is the stuff the world needs right now
@@thelieutenant7993 thanks for the encouragement brother 🙏 👍
That must suck. The only thing you can really do is go out a flesh out your ideological standings to root out how moronic she is, because thats what you have to do with these people.
Keep questioning. Always question those around you. They need it
Iv never been proud of going to a trade school until I heard a man who used to teach at Harvard say its better
It's actually nostalgic to go back and watch this now. I remember first hearing about this Peterson guy around 2015 with the compelled speech stuff and then he popped up on Rogan a few years later and started laying out what a whole generation wanted to express but couldn't explain as clearly, thoroughly and eloquently.
I honestly thought the cultural conversation would start to change after this, but alas, they just threw all the "-isms", "-ists" & "-phobes" at him and normal service was resumed. Still, millions of men started waking up thanks to JP
Joe needs to get this guy back on
Templarzealot89 .
They should just start seeing each other once a month
Petetersen just came out of a serious battle with benzos in his depression. He's a beast , uncompromising , truthful, he'll rise again. In fact I am fighting that exact same battle myself right now. Horrible stuff. Many have called him a prophet . I dont know about that, but the world will not be forgetting JOrdan Petersen any time soon. He's so relevant for what we're facing.
@@chrisgould101 im sorry to hear about your troubles. I do hope you manage to pull through and are stronger because of it.
Everyone should get this guy back on
That podcast is the gift that keeps on giving.
"Every man thinks what he says is right until someone comes & examines him."
I always questioned if Jordan Peterson was over exaggerating the amount of marxist political propaganda of these schools. I had a conversation with a kid who studies sociology, and it showed how right he is. The entire concept of "gender studies", according to this person, is that sex is determined by biology, and gender is determined by social constructs, which are based on a tyrannical system of oppression based on, and I quote "hegemonic class values" (marxist terminology) based on a patriarchal class system of oppression. The fact that the kids cannot even consider biology and science, without politics is actually scary.
well it's even worse now- a professor was fired for teaching that sex is a result of chromosomes - you can't even teach about biological sex now.
How many people need a good plumber or electrician? How many people need someone to tell them that they are racist, sexist, & etc? Go to school to get a job that will pay. Or just pay and pay for your so called education.
No no. You pay so the University staff can tell you who to really blame for your failure to find an nonexistent job with a shit degree that the school told you was so important.
One of them scanned my groceries today.
J.G. Moore
Did they eplain mansplaining and the patriarchy while they did it?
My father made very good money as an electrician. He learned the trade from his uncle, and thanks to the electricians' local he was always needed. Among other locations, he did installations in the World Trade Center and in the Empire State Building and Madison Square Garden. He applied those skills in countless home repairs (and studied carpentry and upholstering). Many people in blue-collar fields are educated and practical; it is not 'settling for less' to learn a trade that can be applied for a lifetime. He has always owned his own home, provided for his family, and had disposable income for the travel he loved and for studying horticulture and photography. If my parents had not divorced and my mom moved to LA, I believe my dad would have been a much bigger influence on my post high school educational decisions. I wish I had learned a trade early on; as much as I love reading and writing and etymology, I've been a grocery stocker my entire life. I just didn't know what to pursue in college, and my liberal arts degree is a result of racking up credits in a wide variety of studies rather than focusing on one or two. This was back in the early 90's, when the third wave of feminism was just getting rolling but was a fairly visible presence on our Los Angeles campus. In those days I was rather left-wing (though far more interested in psychology than in any women's studies courses), so I didn't mind. Now, being of a similar mindset to the likes of Peterson and Ben Shapiro, I stay away from events and protests that highlight the feminist/cultural Marxist agenda. I'm not afraid of being influenced, but I don't want to be associated with such types. I haven't walked across a college campus in 20 years; the overwhelming leftist mentality would irritate the hell out of me.
It's crazy that universities have bullshit courses like this.
As a trade school instructor, I'm really happy that JP mentioned that. Parents, please read my advice, we won't brain wash your kids. Send them to us if you want them to be successful and gain promising employment with great potential for advancement.
Hit the nail right on the head! My mom sent me to trade school and I am now a successful high voltage electrician 13 years after I graduated...so worth it. I cant imagine my life if I chose college...not to say college is bad...it just used to be better. I love being an electrician I've been working for 10 years straight...high demand career.
How much do u get paid
@@goldenmemes51 six figures also. I'm also a puertorican living in Connecticut. This state pays good...but taxes too much.
"You should think again, sunshine"
My man.
Mr Peterson should do a talking tour like Milo and Ben, there are a lot of young people right now who would be ready to listen to him, and I'll bet it would be a money spinner too.
somehow I get the impression he's really not interested in collaborating with any ideologue. I think he speaks against PCness from the deep centre, not the right
buildings and food I was suggesting that he do his own tour, in much the same way Milo and Ben have, his message of course would be all his own, but I do believe that he is a fellow traveller down the a similar (if not the same) road, he seems to stand for free speech and is apposed to ideology over facts, I believe with his knowledge he could give a very informative lecture tour.
Buildings and food, English comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?
Henry Ford Obvious troll is obvious.
Cole G. Ben Shapiro is a literal genius, just saying.
This guy is awesome
You got it right, sunshine.
Rogan or Peterson?
Both
"Resentment for the burden of being." Holy CRAP that is a good statement. We should turn that into a hashtag. #resentmentfortheburdenofbeing
It sounds totally bogus to me. Where is the evidence?
@bizkitgto Oh no, you called me a name! My point is completely nullified now :(
Jacob Stewart
“Resentment for the burden of being” is only applicable if you subscribe to Peterson’s “baseline of suffering” ideology, which the radfems clearly do not.
Any issues they have, any feeling of discomfort is clearly someone else’s doing, not the result of being alive.
As it is someone else’s doing, it gives them reason to find and fight the “someone else,” the “patriarchy,” but given the times we live in it comes off as strenuous at best.
Given the absolute luxury almost every person born after 1950 lives in people tend to laugh at them but the laughter only emboldens them, it’s either “misogyny” or “internalized oppression.” Either way they can explain it away with their oppression narrative.
Contrast this with Peterson’s aforementioned ideology and they have literally no reason to riot, given the fact that 99% of the issues they have (capitalism, “income inequality” etc.) are complete non-issues or outright fabrications and it discredits their dogma.
This is what he meant when he said “resentment for the burden of being.”
I hope this clears it up.
7:10 "they can get so bad, that no matter how bad you think they can get you are not even in the bloody ballpark"
Coming from Venezuela, I can testify
Had my phone in my pocket , thought he was interviewing Kermit the frog
Jordan Peterson has a video talking about how people say he sounds like Kermit on his youtube channel. :D
Gegard Mousasi's voice is a little more kermity
No way. hahahhaa
lol
@Young Immortal - Do you know the title of the video? Can't find it Thanks!
This man is a fucking HERO!!!
“Universities do more harm than good”
No truer words could have been spoken at this moment in our time.
Trade school was the best decision I ever made regarding profession.
I dropped out of college for a trade school. I'm sooooo glad to have JP reaffirm my decision. It's been probably the second best decision I've made in my entire life. Right after joining the military.
Good for you guy! Me too!
👌👌👌
joining the army?
way to go dumb ass lol i hope you've done it for career advancement and not for pride
@@19ars92 Why shouldn't someone have pride for joining their country's military?
BeansofHorror Shalashaska
Because you’re not serving your people as they make you believe
You’re serving a much darker purpose of people behind the scenes with their own personal interests, and large corporations
US army is the largest terrorist group in the world, I’m telling you this as somebody that loves the American people, the working class
"you should think again sunshine" 😂😂
Jordan Peterson on Joe Rogan? Today's my birthday and christmas together.
Merry Birthday
What do people see in Rogan? He is a midget both physically and mentally.
I always say to My Mum that Wimbledon is better than Xmas, because it lasts two weeks. J.Ps videos are even better ;)
@BLAIR M Schirmer he's the best bet you have, boy.
@@SeekerofTruths people see their reflection in his bald head🙃
I wish more interviewers would take notes on how Joe Rogan interacts with his guests. He asks and then.....wait for it.....lets the person finish and express their COMPLETE thought.
I took a women’s studies class and enjoyed it. It was focused on the history of women’s rights and sexism in the 20th century. I looked at it like a history class, the same way I took African American history classes. There was no focus on revolution or protesting. It was just a class.
But it is lies, not based on any facts or statistics. Its myth.
@@AhmadAlAjeel Myth of what? Women being oppressed for centuries and still are for many countries ESPECIALLY in Islamic countries?
damn this guy seems so fuckin pissed off at the current vibes on campuses. Must be tough
You have no idea. Consensual sex can leave you with a ruined college record and a ruined reputation.
JRMCNEA dont forget std's ive seen some nasty shit
he so fuckin serious. But he is so smart and so right.
Clorox Bleach seeing the profession you've dedicated your life to bending the knee to an echo chamber of spoiled attention seeking zeros must be both heartbreaking and infuriating
He is right
5 years later and everything they talked about has come true.
I went to University but not for what my parents wanted me to go for. They wanted me to be an engineer or architect, the typical “if you don’t get a 6 figure job you didn’t make it in life speech.” Well I chose agriculture and animal sciences. In that degree I learned how to weld, work on and fix farm equipment, grow crops, manage a greenhouse, raise all types of livestock, train horses, driving big equipment and large trucks/trailers, ranch management, wildlife management (raising deer/exotics) list goes on and on. My parents and I didn’t speak much except to check on my grades for years. Now they see the value of my skills in our modern society and envy that I live on a 13,000 acre working ranch with my husband.
Everytime I hear Prof. Kermit B Peterson I'm blown away. He is a voice of reason and logic in unreasonable and illogical times.
Not to mention the voice of kermit
This dude sounds like Kermit the frog but he's smart as fuck
omg now I cannot in-hear
Emperor Wang screw you for putting that in my head
He sounds like Handy Bot.
Seth MacFarlane referenced Carl Sagan's voice with Kermit The Frog
Do you mean to say Kermit isn't smart as fuck?
This was probably the least amount Joe has ever talked on a JRE, and it's because Jordan Peterson is a treat to listen to.
Whenever people try to turn this guy into a meme, and think it's all jokes, even going so far as to say he's a transphobe or a misogynist, insert particular kind of xenophobia you want with no proof, I smile. It reminds me how important some of his messages are. This shit is uncomfortable, hard truths are, and people would rather joke or straight up demonize the man than just take in what he has to teach us.
still brilliant as usual and still relevant today - thank you for having Dr Peterson on
Jordan Peterson. You are one of the few who have it right these days.
7:25
"Send them to Trade School"
"Universities do make more harm than good now"
That's as sad as true!
@mikael englund Over 40% of the compulsory sections of a maths degree at Sydney uni is was "SJW related" and if you don't tow the line you get kicked out, I didn't want to play and left before the they kicked me out and walked into a $250,000 PA job based on my abilities and went back and rubbed their noses in it.
@mikael englund I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering. Engineering is WAY overrated.
Mark Flierl How so? I’m considering career paths, what’s wrong with it?
@@michaelsandel8101 For one, the pay isn't very good. Google engineers pay.
Everyone said he was overreacting.
It is now 2020 and Jordan has been proven 100% correct.
I'm a member of the generation pushing this shit, see kids I went to high school with working their jaws about it and I just don't understand where the fuck they get this sense of oppression. I'm just really glad I didn't file into college with the rest of them.
I'm taking university classes through a community college. Haven't run into SJW rhetoric here yet, but the university has sent me emails regarding a "toxic masculinity workshop". I'll probably be moving to take classes at the actual university campus next year, can't exactly say I'm excited.
Vash the Elicit
You know, I still think about applying for college courses. But with all of this SJW bullshit going on, I'm gonna stay away from that for a while.
Well there is oppression in terms of financially although it clearly is not done entirely on purpose.
Young people want to be a part of something. It's always been that way. Each generation will damn sure drum up some drama whether it's there naturally (Vietnam War for example) or not (arguably the current situation). Personally I think being kinder to people who are "different" in one way or another is a nice thing to work towards. The problems begin when legislation gets involved. Young people are often slow to recognize why this is dangerous. If something is "good" then what could be wrong with making it the law? Serious students of history know exactly how it can go wrong, and it's important to share that knowledge with these young people. But a creepy old grump shouting about Stalin is not the proper mechanism of delivery.
mshesh16 Well the issue you just stated is hitting almost everyone. It's not just whites,blacks,hispanics, etc etc it is everyone. Technology has made wages so low and we're all competing for the little amount of crumbs under the table and since we have no visual elite to point to we point at each other instead. This really comes down to the fact that the amount of separation between those with resource security and those without has grown to astronomical levels throughout the world and anger is rising as more and more people are living without enough income to afford their authentic needs that would allow them to be a fully and efficiently functioning piece of society. Humanity is only as strong as it's weakest links (weakest link is a subjective thing in this case)... We still have yet to learn this lesson.
If I took a fucking plumbing course at Harvard for a single semester, I’d never live that down. I’d tell everyone I’m was Harvard student until the end of time. This guy TAUGHT at Harvard and barely mentioned it. Respectable fude
I've been sharing these with a retired judge. Wow, a practicing lawyer who was forced out as a workman comp judge for siding with the workers to much. He just thanked me for sharing JBP with him. I'm sure he will go to Jordan's page now after I told him about JBP's struggles. One open mind at a time.
I'm on the train with a family right next to me...
I open my laptop, and of course right when i open it, "Hello freak bitches"...
Why Man, why this intro??
They're called earbuds.
I've been worried for Peterson for a while. I can't imagine the stress he's under, he's been getting more and more blunt as time has passed.
You was right
so good.
This clip never gets old.
@5:15 "All of the things you do will eventually fail." That was quite profound to me. You can take it so many ways, you can be defeated by it or uplifted by it. I take it to mean that you should have no fear of failing, because everything you do will eventually fail...so go do stuff that you love, that scares you, go do it because eventually...it won't matter. Win or lose, it's all gone anyway...so don't be afraid to lose now while you still can. Besides, we don't always learn from success, but we always learn something from failing.
There’s a Sopranos episode where a Drill instructor at a Military Boys School simplifies this, along the lines of “We’ve provided our kids too many options; no wonder they’re confused.” My parents had a college fund for me from the time I was born. What did I do with that money? I went to a university just because it “seemed ok” knowing absolutely NOTHING about what I wanted to do and to get my parents off my back so I could be away from them and do what I wanted. I went to college for 2 reasons. 1, being that my family never gave me the option to NOT go to college (essentially, but I’m not blaming them for my own issues as an adult) and 2, to get fucked up. I fucked around too much and ended up getting addicted to heroin and dropping out. I failed out a 2nd time because booze, pills and heroin/fentanyl were far more important. My life has been nothing but hardships since I was 17 years old. Im not blaming society or my parents, as my decisions were my own, but im just sharing my experience to others as an extreme case of what can happen when you are completely lost and floundering in life and the “burden of being ” as Jordan has described it becomes an unbearable weight
Really hoping your on a better path now. Start by believing you are someone who matters. Take care
This is one of the best clips that’s come out of this podcast in my opinion. He is dead on
Wow! I like that Jordan has taken some firm stances on particular issues here. It's quite refreshing to see this type of passion on these controversial topics.
The fact he hit the nail on the head ! Bullseye 🎯
This is hands down my favorite podcast, amazing guests, great topics. I've seen them all.
*I'd love to see Ray Kurzweil on JRE.*
Gamer Voice Check out Dave Rubin with The Rubin Report. He also does amazing interviews! :)
Subsidizing Revolution--that was great. Good question.
Yo why is the full podcast not here
I once took women's studies. I walked out and dropped the class, the first day.
I'm currently taking one, and I dedicated a page in the front of my notebook called, "Funny quotes," because the prof believes practicing masculinity means sexual harassment.
Run for your life!
Why did you even consider taking the class in the first place? It just takes a few minutes of research to immediately realize that it's all bullshit.
Melkor According to JRR Tolkien, any form of power is evil. The Earth is Melkor’s ring and evil in nature. This is so opposite to what peterson belives. How do you reconcialate this?
How did the syllabus look?
Women's Studies is a useless degree and you are dooming any person with a Feminist Studies degree to being a barista at Starbucks.
Comment written by a white man.
Well the same can be said of philosophy, poli sci, etc. But they have intrinsic value, and it sounds like women's studies may not.
Actually only a barista for a LIMITED TIME until they realize a GUY started Starbucks. Or until they treat a male customer like crap or give their male boss a patriarchy rant.... then they're back to protesting
@@Blackheathenly I'm a proud white man of culture
You can actually work at a Rape Crisis center, in DV centers, pursue legal degrees and sexual education.
After everything Joe says here and agreeing with Jordan, he still endorsed Bernie.
Ryan Klewicki Right ? Joe changes his view depending on the guest
Huh... 🤔
That is truly something to think about.
I think that it might have been 4D chess at a subconscious level on Joe's part, just look at how his endorsement turned out for these woke fanatics, exposed them even more for the mindless swarm of misery and loathing that they are :V
He's a dummy dumb
I truly think Bernie and Jordan would get along well. Remember Jordan is Canadian, where a lot of things are like what Bernie wanted for usa. As a canadian, I enjoy and respect Jordan Peterson and I would have totally voted for Bernie if I had the power.
Very important discussion. Superb.
I ran into a college friend on campus during my college years after not seeing her for a year. This girl was very nice but a bit lost and hadn't declared a major when I knew her. When I saw her she announced that she was now a radical feminist and a woman's studies major. We both laughed.
People need to listen to this man
Women's Studies isn't a degree, it's decorative wall hanging.
Sasapesso $20000 toilet paper
Who would be proud of that?
"And here right next to my 24 participation trophies, is my women's studies degree. I studied to be a woman and boy do i have a few things to tell you about the patriarchy!"
-conversation ends.
only if its printed with quality.......
Mr. Peterson,
My name is Carlton Smith. I will keep it short. In my opinion you are correct about the Universities doing more harm than good. And I too am terrified for my children and the world. Please keep speaking to our young people and giving them the wisdom attained by experience and age. Throw in a discipline for this old soldier. Enjoy watching and learning from you. I try to impart a little wisdom that I learn from yourself and others.
I will end here.
Sincerely,
SGT Carlton Smith
US ARMY, RET
I, too, hope he gets better and finds the strength to get back in the game. Dr. Peterson still has an immense amount of potential to further change the world.
Joe - Get Jordan back again. I really miss your interviews with him.
"uh, think again sunshine" omg, that is the best line I've ever heard haha, Peterson is the best.
BEST. FUCKING. JRE. EVER!
Why isn't the actual video available anymore
Where did the full podcast go? I can watch/listen on Spotify, but not UA-cam
this man gives me goosebumps. never have I had so much respect for someone on am intellectual level. guys a fucking genius..
Regarding the Patriarchy, Wikipedia said "Feminist theory typically characterizes patriarchy as a social construction, which can be overcome by revealing and critically
analyzing its manifestations" whereas Jordan Peterson said the women's studies activists want to replace the patriarchy with an ideological utopia, referring to the Soviet Union I presume.
everyone needs to watch this interview today
"you should think again, sunshine" lol
So prescient. It all played out exactly as he predicted. Amazing. This guy needs to get more credit for his predictions, whether you agree with his politics or not.
"Contempt for existence itself"
I ask in an honest manner, what can we do to create a society where people don't have contempt for existence? I truly want people to enjoy life no matter who they are. Being alive is wonderful in itself in spite of the suffering.
Buddhism can help
I look over these sorts of sites as much as I can, and he is absolutely right.
@PowerfulJRE Can you make the full episode available?
A Harvard professor just said "send your kids to trade school." That's deep.
Love this man.
I dropped out of community college after my second year because they not only wanted to force me to take “studies” courses to graduate, but I also had to pay for it. I’d rather go do the CompTia A+ test, get into the IT field for $400, and teach myself to code more than I do now than pay $120k for them to not even teach me how to do do something useful.
I’m glad i taught myself some coding, but I know people who’ve graduated with comp sci degrees and can’t build a website let alone find a job. My first year Python course professor had us make pixel art with outdated software that looked like it was from the 90s, I ended that course having learned nothing new nor anything beneficial, worst money I’ve spent on anything, all for some piece of paper.
I thought high school was to show a general understanding of things with a balanced curriculum and college was specialized, yet it just felt like going to a boarding high school with some extra freedoms.
Where is the entire video?
holy shit. this video was an eye opener
When a guy tells me hes a feminist i ask them "uh-oh. What did you do?"
I’d tell him it’s a terrible tactic to try and get laid
I'm a male feminist. Why do I have to 'do' anything? If I have this interest then I should be able to practise and study it.
As a university student I will say my university hasn't done any women's studies/protests/far-left stuff, it's just a university where we go to get our degrees
I liked the gymbutas reference. The amount of knowledge peterson possesses is mesmerizing o.O
Did they take down the Podast #877? Can't find it on UA-cam anymore...
Wyatt earp"What does he need?"
Doc holiday: "Revenge"
Wyatt earp: "Revenge for what?"
Doc holiday: "Being born "
best guest 877 ftw
This was three years ago now it's coming to fruition.
Why this full podcast no longer exists in UA-cam???