Should USA have Noah Lyles or Fred Kerley on the anchor leg for the 4x100 USA Relay team 👀
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It’s gotta be Coleman -> Kerley -> Bednarek -> Lyles. Knighton hasn’t raced enough this year, and everyone in this relay is faster than him in the 100.
100%..no question
Yes and Coleman has no individual races so he needs to run heats and final on first leg. Kerley is only running the 100m so he needs to stay on second leg for the heats and final. They should use Lindsey on third leg in the heats. Someone needs to run anchor in the heats. I would put Kerley on anchor for the heats, but the USA team needs to stay where they're going to run in the final so its much better to have Coleman and Kerley on the first two legs for the heats and finals.
That's a possible range of 36.9 thru 37.4
cap erriyon knighton ran one of the fastest third legs of all time this year at florida relays
I'd go coleman,bednarek, Lindsey, lyles. Better chemistry with those 4. I'D keep knighton off in case wada does an appeal.
Coleman
Fred
Kenny
Lyles
No debate
100%
Coleman-Kenny-Knighton-Lyles
My pick too ... if they get good hand-off's its Sub 37.0 ! .. Looking forward to it For what it's worth I think Knighton would run a spectacular 3rd leg too !!
@@yankswright5326Knighton not on relay pool
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Colemans start is unmatched! Kerley on the back stretch as a former 400 dude. Kenny 3rd as a mean 200m curve runner. Noah to finish as a quick 100m runner
Dumb question. That's like saying should Jamaica have moved Bolt off anchor... Lyles is our Bolt with a moving start. He lives on anchor until he can't. Fred is second. Leave it alone
2016 had Bolt, Blake and Asafa. Only thing though Blake returned from injury SB was 9.93 Asafa placed fourth at trials SB was 9.92. Bolt won but SB was 9.81
Would like to see Coleman to Kenny to Knighton to Lyles, but if Fred runs well in the 100m Final & gets a medal, can't see him being happy with being left out of that team in the 4x1 Final!
I think they should take Chris Coleman out of the relays altogether and put Knighton in. Let Coleman stay home and work on his craft. He is not that good compared to the present USA talent.
I agree with u
@@imhereforitall9218 Coleman's the best 1st leg runner in the world, no one comes close!
@@imhereforitall9218 i dont think coleman is the type to let a bad performance and a mediocre performance be without a comeback. I feel he could really melt the track on the relays
I The honk some of this depends on if Fred is on the 4x400. Remember Fred is training mates with Norman and Benjamin. I can see Hall if he runs well on there too. But familiarity is good no matter the relay.
It's not even a debate...Noah on anchor, and after watching Knighton in Florida, he seems like a no brainer on the third leg.
Kenny on the third leg is safer.
USA is not risking a medal for Knighton. The higher ups are coming for him and if they do find him guilty, USA is losing a medal so i highly doubt they would be considering him now. Its Coleman > Kerley > Lindsey > (someone) for the heats. Its Coleman > Kerley > Bednarek > Lyles for the final. Bednarek and Lyles should only run the 4x100 final due to them running the 100m and 200m.
_him_ being on substances can come to question against their qualification.
(rmbr 2012's 4x100m as well as 2000's 4x400m)
@@boringlifeofateen Believe me, I considered that, and yeah, he's not a safe choice, cause in the long run, WADA is going to nail him. So yeah, you're right, he's the wrong choice for any leg for any round.
we should be thankful that we have so many gifted athletes regardless of when they run
That fiest USA lineup can break the world record. Coleman-Fred-Kenny-Noah.🏅
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It makes sense to go *main (reserve)* Coleman (Lindsey) Bednarek (Kerley, could be either way) Knighton (King, I don't know if he's been selected) Lyles (whoever's left)
For as great as Gatlin was he always give the Jamaicans the ultimate respect
2016 olypmics 4x100 final Bolt, Blake, Asafa were on the same team
Coleman, Knighton, Kenny and Lyles
2007 World Championship in Osaka. Bolt ran 2nd leg. Powell ran anchor. Wallace Spearmon gave Bolt all he could handle and then some.
We don't need the relay team to get stripped retroactively having Knighton on the team. I think WADA is still considering challenging the clearance of Knighton. Go with the more experienced and raced athletes this year.
I agree with you guys leave Kenny on the third leg, Fred on the second and leave Knighton out because of his inconsistencies he is not reliable leave him for rounds....the Jamaicans will be tactical because of Kishane, Oblique and Ackeem....
Gatlin is slipping lately. After further assessment, the U.S. should go with Coleman, Kerley, Berdnek, Lyles period, barring possible controversy with Knighton. Now I will partly agree with Gatlin on that plug n play. No continuity established
Bolt, Blake and Asfa were on the 2016 team
Asafa popped it off, Blake ran 3rd and Bolt brought it home
Kenny made it clear he wants that back stretch
Kenny ran 10.08~ on curve. USATF splits were wrong. He is rolling this year
How do you know the splits were wrong??🤔🤔
@@aaronday305I've been doing this for 25 years. They don't match up with high speed footage from several angles plus crowd footage that be put against timer. USATF have a history of inaccurate splits dating back to 1995
@@aaronday305Their numbers are often sometimes nearly 0.10 fast or slow through 100m points which is an eternity in sprints. Their 2022 data had Fred Kerley hitting his fastest 10m split 90-100m which is impossible in accordance to physiology and any numbers of anyone else recorded. A human being that is immune to deceleration in a 100m has not been born yet
@@nsxperformanceWhat Lyles curve
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Asafa in 4x100 was the mostly possible year might be 2012. Bailey was good tho, yah i think USA 4x100 relay problem is chemistry. (baton passing)
Still not the biggest gat fan but....he seems more personable when he aint competing. Thats all imma say. Rod I like ur fairness in ur analysis. Imma subscribe
Like shacarri lyles weakest area is his start and best is his closing speed a running start and at anchor you get the best of both worlds and where it matters most.
Noah should be second leg. It’s the longest leg and he has the best speed endurance. I’d go Coleman, Lyle’s, bednarek, Kerley
Erryion knightion will beat Kenny in the Olympics!! they have scrambled and mess with knightons head for a whole year and that’s why he didn’t run 19:55
Knighton runs the curves the hardest
2024 olympics would be exciting. 🎉
🤔2016 Olympics 4X100 Jamaica Team, 1st Leg Powell, 2nd Leg Blake, 3rd Leg Ashmeade, 4th Leg-Anchor Bolt, Time Was 37.27…Eve Of Bolts 30th Birthday, His Last Olympics…
Never put lyles on 2nd he runs a much better anchor as seen with 2022 worlds vs 2023. He needs room to run through the line.
There's no debate. Same order as last year and inset Kenny 3rd leg.
Coleman, to Kenny, to knighton , Noah
Coleman, Kenny, Fred, Lyles
Kenny beat Lyles and Knighton off the curve for the 200m, so i say choose him for 3rd leg
I mean, the lane draw had a lot to do with that, but Kenny is a better turn runner than Lyles regardless.
Nobody runs the curve like Erryion when he is in prime shape.
Why not run Noah out of the gate since he beat Christian in the 60???
IT need to be Coleman, to Fred, to Kenny or Knighton, then Lyles on Anchor always. But how many times have Knighton beat Kenny when fully trained and raced up?
Coleman-Fred-Grant-Noah
Coleman->Bednarek->Kerley->Lyles
Rio Olympics Asafa Yohan & Ashmeade and Bolt I believe I just don’t remember that 3rd leg
I lowkey wouldn't mind seeing Kenny, Fred, Coleman, Lyles
@Ocho you got the right 4 but in what order are talking?
@robwhoot7686 lol in that order I listed
Unless Fred does something special in the 100m, I don’t know that I’d put him on anchor. I love Fred though!!
Noah is anchor.
Knighton carries top 3 anchor splits. And that was EARLY.
Second fastest 3rd leg next to Bolt. In front of the world record of Blake’s 3rd. EARLY IN THE SEASON. And y’all be thinking he’s not ready???
If Fred don’t make it past semis. I’m running a relay fulla 200m runners.
Knighton is going third.
Fred is an anchor. But we have an anchor.
I want Fred starting then Bednarek to Coleman & Lyles anchoring......we got this
This is by far the worst order outside of Lyles on 4th that I’ve seen.
@@mrwintry1 That's only because U are used to common things
Put Grant Holloway on there!
The only toss up is between knighton and kenny... no legitimate reason to keep the fastest opener(ever) coleman off.. or the world champ/us champ in Noah... or the former us champ/Olympic medalist in kerly... those three are set and have experience running relays multiple times..
Kenny doesnt have the experience in relays and Knighton hasn't ran this year damn near at all... if its me the order is Coleman - Kerly - Kenny - Noah
It should be Kenny > Fred > Knighton > Lyles… that’s the best line up
Coleman Kenny/Fred Knighton Lyles. No debate honestly.
am Jamaican n if its not noah usa will lose
knighton should be the default, if fred gets a gold or a silver in the 100, i dont see how you could keep knighton over fred.
Kerley’s leg is the questionable one. The main discussion should be the following.
Coleman - 1
kerley or knighton - 2
kenny - 3
Lyles 4
If you are doubting Fred, you have to doubt him with someone with raw speed on the straight. So, you should remove Knighton, and put Grant Holloway on that straight!
Putting Erryion might end up costing the team a medal BECAUSE of the Tren in his system that AIU and WADA may still look into more
Fred Kurly will be ready for the Olympics. He's hungry.
Leave Knighton out..yall might get medal stripped
Rio 2016 it was Powell Blake Ashmede Bolt
Love you brothers but that is a very dumb question. Noah is clearly the anchor leg because of his run down ability in case we fell behind. Fred shouldn't even be on the team bro. Christian, Kenny, Erriyon and Noah. That's the Gold medal squad we need to represent USA in the 4x100 relay finals. Let Fred run the heats.
i agree
Fred must be in the Final.
Yeah but other countries will run 209, 400, 400 hurdlers etc. we could lose to if we have a bad leg. Fred trains with those two guys.
This is not a serious question.
Noah offcouse...I don't think Fred should even be in the 4x100 linenup
Fred does the straight away very well.
Yooooh what???
@@treasuresamuel6891 real talk bro, watch the world championship 4x100 from last year, ..he doesnt know how to recieve a batton, OR hand it off
It’s a great problem to have
🤷Hey 👋 damn, this ain't exactly 🚀science men, if it ain't broke why change it or fix it, we all know that "Noah's" anchor is called coming from behind if necessary, & "Fred" is a use to be quarter mile sprinter which tells me he still should have reserved speed endur- ance who can even get a few more yards in that back stretch if the team choose to extended it, to me in my imagination its a dump question, the only thang that they need to slave & seriously focus on is those handoffs, in which they need to do every other day for at lest a hour, using it to get some nice quick speed work while doing it, killing to birds 🦅🕊with one practice 3 or 4 days a week🤷👌🏻!!! Amen 🙏!!!
Nahh Coleman has to be on there !!!
You absolutely do not put Christian Miller in prelims. Too much risk. One drop of that baton and it’s over.
Miller didn't make the relay pool
Coleman . Kenny . Fred . Noah ..
Put Coleman Kenny knight on lyles 4x1 and put kerley on 4x4
Yes
USA needs and A and B team, Kerley and Knighton both haven't run a lot of races and Fred hasn't been consistent in the last two years
Coleman, Kenny, Knighton to Noah
2016 had powell blake and bolt but they were all far from their best especially blake and powell
Noah on the last leg all day... Coleman Kenny Fred lyles.. we are good...
Very wrong there was a bolt on. 3 to asafa for sure frater....
Remember Coleman & Lyles both run the 60, so I'd keep them both on the straights @ 2 & 4 respectively.
Knighton is a mean turn runner. But doesn't have a lot of baton experience. So I'd put either him or Kenny out the blocks. I'm going:
1) Knighton (Kenny optional)
2) Coleman
3) Fred
4) Lyles
lol hell no to this lineup
Fred need to be sitting
Noah
Coleman
Fred
Lyles
Kenny
Knighton over Fred
Coleman > Lyles > Kenny > Kerley
Outside of the obvious things, like Coleman being the best starter:
1. 2nd leg is the longest leg. There’s a reason Fred didn’t run 200 this year. Noah tied the WR for the 150m this year.
2. Kenny is a 200m specialist, so let him run the curve.
3. Kerley is under-raced and still ran 9.88 at the trials. He’s only running the 100 and will be fresh for the relay. He’s a strong, powerful runner who can close well.
4. Yes, Knighton can run the curve, but is even more under-raced than Kerley, does not have 100m speed like the others, and shouldn’t be rewarded with what he was involved in this year.
@@MarcusTheDarkness valid, however I can’t see them putting Kerley on anchor because they’re trying to push Noah as a superstar
@@trevor3905 true
Idk, can't imagine Kerly not running 2nd.. he's the strongest in the group, and by that I mean he has world class speed/times in the 100/200/400... Noah's top end is unmatched and would guarantee no one in the world could take us on the last leg
That formula didn't work in the 2022 Worlds. The Formula that has worked is Coleman starting and Lyles anchoring.
@@BDQ1975 huh? Half the team was completely different. Stupid comment.
2016😂
1. Coleman
2. Lindsay
3. Kenny
4. Noah
Coleman is the best starter (maybe ever), and he and Lindsay have time to practice/perfect the 1-2 exchange. They can take a lot of risk and stretch that handoff zone to the max. WR potential imo
I would switch Lindsay and Kenny if you go that route.
They should keep the same team from world relays. Just put Coleman first
Both of these clowns want Jamaica to beat us
please don't put KERLEY ON THE TEAM ......CHRISTIAN,KNIGHTON KENNY & NOALLOWS
wow that's some beef you eating for kerkey
Fred should definitely be on the relay. knighting can’t hang with him in the 100 IJS. Jamaica taking it regardless.
Knighton*
US team is way too strong to be beat, besides bad exchanges. Jamaica has 2 elite runners, USA has 4.
I’ll be back to say I told you so. Jamaica has the two fastest out there. Jamaican’s third fastest is a 9.8 runner too. Then Lavell is in PB shape. Btw non of the Jamaicans are peaking.
@@jujudidj1440USA got 4 9.8 runner Jam only has to Blake best is a 9:92
@@jujudidj1440Lavell a 10 flat guy
Coleman > Kenny > Lindsey/Erryion > Noah
2007 Bolt ran second
2008 and 2009 Asafa anchored
2015 Asafa ran second
Kenny made it clear he wants that back stretch