You don't understand ,and know the scriptures. When you read Daniel 7:9-13,Christ, comes to the Father. Hosea 5;6,7, Christ withdraw himself from where? From the holy place to the Most holy place. The sanctuary had two apartments ,the holy and the Most holy places. Christ,being the High Priest,after the order of Melchizedek,is performing his duties,before the Father, in the Sanctuary above.
You don't understand ,and know the scriptures. When you read Daniel 7:9-13,Christ, comes to the Father. Hosea 5;6,7, Christ withdraw himself from where? From the holy place to the Most holy place. The sanctuary had two apartments ,the holy and the Most holy places. Christ,being the High Priest,after the order of Melchizedek,is performing his duties,before the Father, in the Sanctuary above.
@shadrachhabeenzu9575 9 - 3 - 24 LDS : Joseph Smith said Angels have GOLDEN PLATES SAME AS........ SDA : Ellen G White said Angels have GOLDEN CARDS ( Early writings 39 : 2 ) Using the Bible ONLY Using the Bible FIRST As Adventists claim to do WHERE in the KJV Bible 1611,or in the Hebrew , Aramaic or GREEK of the text do Angels have GOLDEN PLATES GOLDEN CARDS just because Ellen G White and her contemporary Joseph Smith said so ( Chapter and verse please ) If you don't mind Thank you in advance On the Sabbath "" My Father WORKETH hitherto and I WORK........"" John 5 : 16 On the Sabbath "" For this reason the ( Sabbath keepers ) tried all the more to take his life, because he NOT ONLY BROKE the Sabbath but he also called God his own Father, making himself EQUAL with GOD" John 5 : 18 LDS : Joseph Smith was ALSO a SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy SAME AS......... SDA : Ellen G White was ALSO a SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy LDS : The father of LIES the devil is the Spirit brother of Jesus Christ SAME AS......... SDA : The father of LIES the devil is the SDA HERO SCAPEGOAT of Adventism LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT SAME AS......... SDA : Are your sins blotted out ? SIMPLE Yes.....or......no BIBLICAL GOSPEL 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
We have missionaries that go out and have gone out to preach the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Ellen Gould Harmon White was the first to say that the fourth commandment says that the seventh day is the sabbath like the fourth commandment has said ever since they were expressly given to Moses on Mr Sinai written with the hand of God the BOSSMAN upstairs in and from heaven! Read them and wrap! Obey obey obey!
Daniel 8 is not even about a denomination and verse 14 is not even about a "heavenly sanctuary". No regard of context of this prophecy. Perversion of scripture by EGW
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. ...for if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. (Gal. 2:16,21)
@@rajdialnandram5676 Everything was nailed to the cross. God doesn't separate them like we do. God requires perfection to get into heaven. You need the righteousness of God. Have you kept the ten commandments perfectly? Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect.
@@rajdialnandram5676 everything is used together in Colossians to show the offerings, days , holidays are the law of Moses the important thing to know is the New and better covenant in Christ Had planned in Jeremiah 31:31 Romans chapter 8:2 tells us that new law replaced the first which didn't need to happen had it been able to accomplish God's objective!!!; Therefore we must discover all that's new and better able to help like God wants
@billweir8824 Grace,love and faith,righteousness and eternallife,you will never find these in old testament, Jesus gave his church(both Jews and Gentiles who were elected according to his own will)the revealed word of God,Moses gave (only Israel) laws which were not perfect,laws which came to multiply sin like your ten commandments,there was no forgiveness of sins in the old testament but the shadow of Christ who forgives,there was no faith,no grace,no righteousness,no Highpriest,no holy spirit,no word,no obedience BUT THE SHADOW/ALLEGORY OF CHRIST For example Job was never righteous though the bible says he was because no one can be righteous without the blood of Jesus which washes away sin,there's no righteousness without the blood of Christ so Job was a typology of Christ who's righteous,Job prophesied about Christ,same applies to Abraham etc
It's called sanctification. A lifelong process. Everyone sins daily. That is why we need to repent. Our current state is that we are sinners. In order to get into heaven, you need to be perfect. You need the righteousness of God. Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect. The moment someone repents of their sins and puts their faith alone in what Christ has already done for them on the cross, God forgives them of their sins and grants them the free gift of eternal life. They are clothed with the righteousness of God and God now sees them as perfect and they are allowed into heaven. Their status before God is perfected. It's called justification. A one time event. 2 Corinthians 5:21 21 God made Christ who knew no sin to be [j]sin in our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified. Isaiah 61:10 I will rejoice greatly in the Lord, My soul will be joyful in my God; For He has clothed me with garments of salvation, He has wrapped me with a robe of righteousness, As a groom puts on a turban, And as a bride adorns herself with her jewels.
John 10:27-29 My sheep listen to My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give them eternal life, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. God will help you endure to the end. Philippians 1:6 For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work among you will complete it by the day of Christ Jesus. Jude 1 24 Now to Him who is able to protect you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory, blameless with great joy, 25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority before all time and now and forever. Amen. I Corinthians 1 our Lord Jesus Christ, 8 who will also confirm you to the end, blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord. I Thessalonians 5 Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be kept complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is He who calls you, and He also will do it.
• Justification is “an act of God whereby He pronounces a sinner to be righteous because of that sinner’s faith in Christ.” We are justified, or declared righteous, at the moment of our salvation. • Sanctification is “the process by which Christians are set apart for God from the rest of the world, or the process by which Christians are made holy.” Progressive, or experiential, sanctification, as it is sometimes called, is the effect of obedience to the Word of God in one’s life. It is the same as growing in the Lord (2 Peter 3:18) or spiritual maturity. • Glorification is “God’s final removal of sin from the life of the saints so that they stand faultless before Him in glory in eternity” (Romans 8:18; 2 Corinthians 4:17). At Christ’s coming, the glory of God (Romans 5:2)-His honor, praise, majesty, and holiness-will be realized in us; we will have direct and unhindered access to God’s presence, and we will enjoy holy communion with Him throughout eternity. As mentioned above, these three words describe the full process of salvation. As Christians, we were justified when we confessed Christ and believed (Romans 10:9), we are sanctified as we grow in holiness through the work of the Spirit (Ephesians 4:11-32; Galatians 5:16-24), and we will someday be glorified when we are resurrected into eternal life (Colossians 3:4). Justification is a one-time event, sanctification is a process, and glorification is a future event. If you are a Christian, you are guaranteed all three steps (see Romans 8:29-30). You are forever justified, you are being sanctified, and you will for sure be glorified (1 Corinthians 6:11). All three of these amazing things are from God’s grace, not because of anything you have done or will do to earn them (Ephesians 2:8-9). You cannot earn your justification, you cannot achieve your sanctification, and you cannot merit your glorification. God makes all these things happen out of His love for you, by His grace alone (Romans 3:24; 2 Corinthians 9:8; Philippians 2:13; Titus 2:11). If you are trying to achieve any of these three things by your own power, you will inevitably fail. Instead, ask God for His grace, rely on His power, and walk by the Spirit. www.gotquestions.org/justification-sanctification-glorification.html
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Rev 14 v 12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. Isaiah 63 : 23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. Matthew 5 : 17 -18 “Think not that I am come to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Why does the Seventh Day Adventist church break the third and ninth commandments? Why do they make fun of God and say that he has to perform an 'Investigative Judgment?'
@@jlewis8145 not everyone breaks them..its unfortunate they are people who do that and as far as I understand SDA, they don't condone such behaviour..but as Jesus said the greatest commandment is "Love the Lord your god with all heart and Love your neighbour as you love yourself)". This is a summary of the commandments...the first 4 deal with your relationship with God...the last 6 deal with your relationships with fellow manking..and remember breaking any 1 is breaking all. So adventists who break those commandments are doing wrong.. The issue however is why do most religions have and issue with that Sabbath commandment but not the with the rest of the other commandments..so there is indeed something about that commandment that makes it peculiar considering is the subject of debate amongst Christians but the rest are okay..at the same time why do SDA place emphasis on the commandment that is mostly attacked by the world..?
@@edwardtafirenyika683 The real question is why doesn't the Seventh Day Adventist church go into all the world and preach the gospel as Jesus commanded us to? The gospel is in I Cor. 15. If you have a different gospel, then you are under a curse. Galatians 1:8-9 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: ****** . Jesus said to go into all the world and preach the gospel. Jesus never said to hold prophecy seminars or preach the fourth commandment. What did Jesus Christ preach? Mark 1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. What did the apostle Paul preach? 20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house, 21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Adventists are under great delusional spell, how did the first Church preach the Gospel without egw yet they did exploits? Why do they want to force her writings and claim sda is the remnant Church?
Any religous foundation or religous dogma group that will not allow inquiry to their creed or statement of faith and its source is either false OR the person asked is either fake or not educated in what they SAY they believe
The judgment seat of Christ involves a time in the future when believers will give an account of themselves to Christ. This is the plain teaching of Scripture: “We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad” (2 Corinthians 5:10). The warning is to Christians, not unbelievers. As Jesus taught in His parable, the king is going to return, at which time he will require an account from his servants (Luke 19:11-26). The judgment seat of Christ is different from the Great White Throne Judgment. That will be the final judgment of the wicked prior to their being cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15). Appearing before the Great White Throne will be unbelievers. Believers will appear before the judgment seat of Christ. The judgment seat of Christ does not determine our salvation; that matter was settled by Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf (1 John 2:2) and our faith in Him (John 3:16). All our sins are forgiven, and there is “no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” (Romans 8:1). Jesus said, “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life” (John 5:24, emphasis added). So, believers are secure in Christ, but they still must appear before the judgment seat of Christ. It will be a time of examination and a time of reward. Jesus will inspect our works. What did we do with the resources God gave us? How faithful were we? Were we yielded to the Spirit, seeking to honor Christ and further His work in the world? If so, we will have reward (see Matthew 10:41-42). Did we neglect our opportunities to serve the Lord? If so, we will suffer loss of reward. Paul likens our Christian service to erecting a building: Each one should build with care. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved-even though only as one escaping through the flames (1 Corinthians 3:10b-15). Note, in the above passage, that our works subsequent to Christ’s salvation are of two different types-good and bad. The “fire” of God’s scrutiny will reveal the quality of our works. As Arthur Pink points out, “‘Gold, silver, precious stones’ are of intrinsic value, whereas ‘wood, hay, stubble’ are a natural growth” (The Redeemer’s Return, ch. 8, pt. 5). Rewards are distributed to those whose works withstand the test. Those whose works have a natural source will “suffer loss.” Their works will be burned up, but they themselves “will be saved.” The judgment seat of Christ, then, does not confer or rescind salvation. The judgment seat of Christ is also not a time to punish sin. Jesus took our punishment once and for all. The judgment seat of Christ is a time when we will be called on to report, to render an accounting of what we did for Jesus. It will be a serious and necessary time of reckoning, but, as God’s redeemed, we will never be condemned with the wicked. As one theologian put it, “It cannot be too strongly emphasized that the judgment is unrelated to the problem of sin, that it is more for the bestowing of rewards than the rejection of failure” (Chafer, L. S., Systematic Theology, Vol. IV: Ecclesiology-Eschatology, Dallas Seminary Press, 1948, p. 406). In the Greek, a single word is used for “judgment seat” in Romans 14:10 and 2 Corinthians 5:10-the word is bema. A bema was a raised platform on which judges sat to view athletic games. Their job was to make sure contestants followed the rules and to present awards to the victors (see 1 Corinthians 9:24-27). The bema was never a place to reprimand the athletes or to punish them in any way. It was a place of testing and reward. In the same way, the bema of Christ will not be a place of condemnation or censure. In anticipation of the judgment seat of Christ, we are careful in what we say and do in this life. James gives this advice: “Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom” (James 2:12; cf. Matthew 12:36). We want to give our account with joy on that day, and that is why we strive to serve the Lord faithfully today. The Bible speaks of believers receiving crowns for different things. The various crowns are described in 2 Timothy 2:5, 2 Timothy 4:8, James 1:12, 1 Peter 5:4, and Revelation 2:10. We believe the judgment seat of Christ is when the crowns will be awarded, and this will take place in heaven soon after the rapture of the church (as described in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18). At the very end of the Bible, Jesus said, “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done” (Revelation 22:12). In preparation for the judgment seat of Christ, what are you choosing to “build” with? Gold, silver, and precious stones-things that will last? Or wood, hay, and straw-things that will not stand the day of testing? www.gotquestions.org/judgment-seat-Christ.html
@@jlewis8145 dont forget that the SAINTS IN DANIEL 7 will be awarded the kingdom after a court session .In Daniel 7 God’s people on earth here called “saints of the Most High” who are not physically present but are judged and vindicated (7:18). That this is a judgment scene is verified by the phrase, “the court sat in judgment, and the books were opened” (7:10). The books in question contain the records of life and are directly connected to judgment (cf. Rev 20:12). That this judgment takes place before the Second Coming, i.e., in the final days of earth’s history, is confirmed by the fact that at its conclusion the dominion is taken away from the little horn and the kingdom is given to the saints. Here then we have clear, biblical support for the pre-Advent judgment.Its not adventist ...its in the bible 2 corinthians 5:10 and romans 14;10 and ecclesiastics 3:17 were pointing to future judgment of saints ...the judgement shows that NOT ALL who say Lord LORD are Christians ...the judgment checks all who claim to be christians and separates sheep from goats ....the Shephered purges his sheep !the shephered makes us pass under His rod! Ezekiel 20:37-38 Notice that the sheep pass under the rod. Besides being an instrument of both offense and defense-the rod was, in effect, a two-foot club-it also functioned as a tool, under which the sheep passed. What does this picture? First of all, it pictures counting. The shepherd would count the sheep in his flock to make sure they were all present and accounted for. It pictures something else too. As the sheep passed under the rod-a symbol of the Word of God-they would undergo a close scrutiny. The shepherd would run his rod backward or across the grain, as it were, of the wool. The rod separated the wool, allowing the shepherd to look down onto the sheep's skin. He was then able to see both the quality of the skin and of the wool. God is illustrating that by means of His rod, He is giving us careful, close scrutiny for two reasons: One, it gives Him the opportunity to evaluate the quality of His sheep. Two, it provides a means of separation. Quality and separation are the two reasons for His scrutiny of us. Recall Matthew 25 and the separation of the sheep and the goats. The rod aids in identifying or making sure of possession. Sheep's ears were often bored through or distinctively notched as a mark of identification. Sometimes, since the shepherds could not always see that identifying mark due to several flocks being mixed together in the pasture, they would make the sheep pass under the rod. When they did, the shepherd would flip back the ear to see the mark of possession. The wicked are examined in revelation 20 and shown why they are not His possession .the Righteous also are examined to show why they are his possession .ALL PUBLIC ALL TRANSPARENT .revelation 11:1 shows a rod being used to measure ( OR COUNT WORSHIPPERS ).1....... Then I was given a measuring reed like a rod,[a] with these words: “Go[b] and measure the temple of God and the altar, and count those who worship there....measuring in that verse has something to do with COUNTING the worshipers .....COUNTING WORSHIPERS IS A SEPARATION OF THE RIGHTEOUS FROM THE NON RIGHTEOUS ..ONLY CHRIST CAN DO THAT .thats the judgmentseat In Daniel 7
4 - 7 - 24 Seventh day Adventism teaches that under THEIR Investigative Judgment that ALL Adventists will face the Judgment seat of God WITHOUT Jesus Christ as their FRIEND PASTOR ADVOCATE JUSTIFIER GLORIFIER SANCTIFIER REDEEMER SCAPEGOAT at the Judgment seat of God ........
4 - 8 - 24 According to Adventism because Ellen G White said so ; ALL Seventh day Adventists will face the Judgment seat of God WITHOUT Jesus Christ as their FRIEND PASTOR ADVOCATE JUSTIFIER GLORIFIER SANCTIFIER REDEEMER SCAPEGOAT at the Judgment seat of God
And also do not forget that there are Ten Commandments that must be strictly obeyed or all hell will and is breaking loose! And we do not want that, do we? No we do not by any means. I pray that all of the Ten Commandments will be obeyed as of today. I also pray that all who need to repent of all of their sins soon. I suggest that they do it as soon as possible as there is not too much time left. In the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen.
*By what reason, do Adventists possibly make a difference between the law of Moses and the law of God in Lev. 23????* *God Commanded Moses to Give those Laws, they did NOT originate from Moses!* Lev. 22:31 declares verse 31 *"Therefore shall ye keep MY COMMANDMENTS, and DO them: I am the Lord"* The very first words of Lev. 23 says they are the *words and laws of God and he is the author of every law and and word of Lev. 23, not Moses!* Lev. 23:1 *"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying.."* Moreover: Lev. 22:31 declares 31 *"Therefore shall ye keep my commandments, and do them: I am the Lord"* Leviticus 22:9 warns: *They shall therefore keep mine ordinance, lest they bear sin for it, and DIE* 1. How can there possibly be an difference between "the law of God" and the "Law of Moses" when *God gave the Law to Moses* (Ezra 7:6; Neh 8:1) and *Moses gave the Law of God* (Neh 10:29; 2 Chron 34:14)? 2. *If there is a distinction between the moral and ceremonial laws, why does Exodus 16, Duet 5, Numbers 26, Lev 23, all include the weekly Sabbath, if the Sabbath was supposed to be unique to the 10 commandments?* The Adventists are dishonest, that's why. They don't want to see it, because their whole theology collapses if they admit the truth out loud. Lev. 22:31 declares verse 31 *"Therefore shall ye keep MY COMMANDMENTS, and DO them: I am the Lord"* 3. Lev. 22:31 *"Therefore shall ye keep MY COMMANDMENTS, and DO them: I am the Lord"* *Why are the two most important commandments* and large volumes of moral laws contained within the Adventists so called *"ceremonial law of Moses* that was Sabbatarians say was nailed to the cross? (Matthew 22:36-40) Lev. 22:31 declares verse 31 *"Therefore shall ye keep MY COMMANDMENTS, and DO them: I am the Lord"* NOR one Jot or Tittle can pass from the law without heaven and earth passing away FIRST (Mt. 5:18) 4. The very first words of Lev. 23 Show that the weekly Sabbath IS the first of the *appointed times commanded to worship God.* and the first one of them is the weekly Sabbath. Contrary to Adventist's own teachings regarding the Sabbath, they use Acts 15:21 to show the Apostles sending the Gentiles to the Synagogue to learn Moses! However, the Adventists claim that the learning of "Moses" in the synagogue, means learning the Sabbath day! This is typical of their attempt to have it both ways when they need to defend their false teachings.
@@chucksmith4624 does the name “Seventh Day” say anything to you? It is one of the Ten is it not? That is why dear Ellen Gould Harmon White was ousted from her church because the pastor did not want to obey it. So Jesus said to dust off the dirt from your feet and move on and that is what she and James her husband and others did. Thus the Seventh Day Adventist Church was started in 1869. It possibly could have started in 1842-3. But they needed organization first. We can and should all come to God and Jesus in our knees and repent of all of the sins against the Ten Commandments before it is too late. The first trumpet has already sounded! We must all be prepared! All of us! I pray that the whole world repents and is saved by Jesus’ life. Believe in Him in John 3: 16, 17. Amen.
Commandments are: the law of sin and death. No one was saved by them. You have already broken them. Jesus is the law of spirit and truth. There is no love in you if you accuse every other denomination. Sola Scriptural. You are completely wrong. Your denomination the aches a different gospel. You are baptized under another name. Uh Oh... 😢
@@SandyLaFlower-b5n NO! Why do you think that Moses the one who received them on Mt . Sinai through them at the people after he came down the mountain? He threw them because they were too roust and raucously to even listen so they had to spend forty years in the desert wondering and winder if what it was that they had to learn. The Ten Commandments and how to get along with each other. The whole scriptures include Genesis and Exodus, and Deuteronomy, etc all of the books from which we can learn all that was divinely written by the hand of God via the authors of each. The Oy begotten son of God namely Jesus Christ said “If you live me, keep my commandments.” Sola scripture ! I take it that you are not in your right mind right now by the sound of it. Please take a nap and take care of yourself before judging someone. Okay? I will be praying for you and the whole world that we turn to God and His Holy Bible and repent of the sins against Him and His earth that He has so nicely given us that we are destroying day by day. There is not much time left as we have already heard the first trumpet blast not too long ago in the book of Revelation! Repent ASAP! Okay.
@@onementality9781 Yes but it depends on what God. John 14:6 (KJV) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
4 - 7 - 24 LDS : The father of LIES the Devil is the Spirit brother of Jesus Christ SAME AS........ SDA : The father of LIES the Devil is the SDA HERO SCAPEGOAT of Adventism
Bottom line,.God has the final verdict. In the New Heaven and New Earth.We will be worshipping God. Isaiah 66:22-23 KJV For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. [23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord. Are you looking forward to worship God on His Holy Day?
4 - 8 - 24 So in other words we will be WORSHIPPING God SEVEN days out of the WEEK even on SUNDAY'S as it is in Heaven as it is on Earth 🌎 Thank you for confirming that the Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable 1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18
As a 4 gen former adventist. Now a christian. I have no idea how one thinks they're going to heaven when one doesn't believe that they're going to heaven. Being adventist and believing in the investigative judgment. It's either faith Through grace. or EGW & investigative judgment. adventist jesus OR Christian faith through grace jesus.
I guess you werent listening the guest speakers. Ellen White did not develop the Investigative Judgement. That came through Bible Study, and prayer of the early Adventists - but you, like so many others, spread untruths and rumors through ignorance.
The spirit of Prophecy spoke through EGW. Endorsing the investigative , Saturday worship.. So when they say EGW. didn't come up with the tenants it's a straw man. Who's ignorant now. THE SDA church Will destroy your belief in your soul As well the belief that you. Go to heaven When you die. that is for those ignorant christians. When the devil knows that you have to understand both. To enter the kingdom. Generally. And that's the rub my adventist friends.
@@Shelter93 THE IJ WAS IN EFFECT and promoted by Adventists prior to her inclusion of statements about it. End of Story. Endorsing, promoting and standing by something is completely different than being an originator, which is what people ignorant about Adventist history do all the time. They (people such as you) used to say that it was Ellen White who said Jesus was to return in 1843. After being continually embarrassed, that lie has pretty much been eradicated. All you do when you make such absurd statements is demonstrate that you're acting like charlatan and must work at winning an argument at all costs. In the alternative, you are just acting on the promptings of the evil one, in fulfillment of Revelation 12:17. Its one or the other.
Actualy, the Investigative Judgement says, basically one thing. If you are calling yourself a Christian, but not being obedient to Christ, submitting to His Spirit, then you will not be in heaven. Its that simple. The only "weird" thing, would be when this judgement takes place. We believe that the professing Christians who are dead are in their graves, but being judged now (as of 1844). The living will be judged at the very last moments of earths History when two camps will become totally polarized - one group allowing the Holy Spirit to control, the other group allowing personal self interests to control. Once can say they are a Christian and even not do obvious bad things. Only those who are truly led of the Spirit will enter heaven. So, it is not really "weird" or unbiblical at all. You probably just dont like the idea of living totally for Christ, and I am here to tell you, that if you dont, no matter what you say you believe. you will be lost.
A question to the preacher,when did ,and in which chapter do we find the breaking of the seven seals?By answering this question,it will help us to solve that puzzle of yours.confirm
It happened in Revelation 5 at the moment our Lord Jesus returned to his throne after he has risen to be exalted by the Father,remember the bible is not written in a chronological order.
Nothing is broken Revelation 5:1-14 KJV And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. [2] And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? [3] And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. [4] And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. [5] And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. [6] And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. [7] And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. [8] And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. [9] And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; [10] And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. [11] And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; [12] Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. [13] And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. [14] And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
They can debate all day and one can say the SDA is false teaching. But no other Christian professed group follows all 10 commandments especially #4 (Sabbath/Saturday) besides the SDA. God bless.
In ISA. 65 the prophet ISAIAH says the Old creation of Genesis 1 and 2 *would NOT BE REMEMBERED or even come to MIND!* And, the weekly Sabbath is a reminder of the 7th day after when the world fell into sin and darkness and needed redemption! Jer.4. Thus saith the LORD: Isa. 65: 17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the *former shall NOT be REMEMBERED, NOR come into mind.* ( *that verse alone destroys the Adventist Church's false "Spirit of Prophecy" and their failure to understand Isa.66:22-24* ) Speaking at the church which Christ has himself established the prophet Isaiah goes on to say: 18 But be *ye glad and rejoice for ever* in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and *her people a joy.* The prophet Isaiah having said this in Chapter 65, could not possibly mean the opposite in Chapter 66! Thus, Isa.65:17 is showing Ellen G. White and the Adventist Church to be false prophets! See my video on Isaiah 66:22-24 *The meaning of the word, "From"* ua-cam.com/video/KuPodPPmEyo/v-deo.html The Adventist's can't read and comprehend simple English sentences correctly. For example Isa.66: 22-24 says *"FROM"* ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER, NOT *"ON"* the Sabbath! The prophet Isaiah in only a few verses earlier *explicitly said, the "OLD CREATION" would NOT BE REMEMBERED! And, every Adventists knows that the weekly Sabbath was given to the Jews to REMEMBER THE OLD CREATION! Therefore, the correct understanding of Isaiah 66:22-24 is that it is a Hebrew idiom to mean EVERY DAY OF EVERY WEEK INCLUDING SUNDAY, NOT JUST ON SATURDAY.
@@robinsonaenasi9800 Sure, all the cults declare the same thing. There is a real reason why 60% of the people leave Adventist because they refuse to be honest.
@@catholic4sure976 The "new creation" is future. Jesus will return, we know not when exactly but soon apparently, the great judgment will take place, the wicked including the fallen angels and their leader will be cast into the lake of fire and destroyed. Then and only then will God create a new heavens and a new earth where we will live with Him forever. Isaiah, by your own statement was a "prophet" and a prophesy tells about events to come, not past events. Get with it catholic U sure?
What is not in the Bible is the sda's interpretation of it. Read,and read again. (Not from the clear word bible). Maybe copy and paste the text so you can show the rest of us.
The 3 angels messeges 1. Great commission of Mathew 28:19-20, (2)Bible clearly rells us who Babylon is.Revelations 18:3, then Revelation 18:3, then move to Revelations 17:18 & finally Revelations 11:8. Babylon being referred to here is Jerusalem. (3)Antiochus Ephiphinus fulfilled the third Angels messege nearly 2000 years ago
@@killiansayi2162 4 - 7 - 24 You said REVELATIONS three times ( PLURAL ) on your last comment John the Beloved didn't have REVELATIONS- PLURAL The Apostle John had A.......REVELATION ( SINGULAR ) while on the Island of Patmos NOT REVELATIONS....... LDS : Joseph Smith said Angels have GOLDEN PLATES SAME AS........ SDA : Ellen G White said Angels have GOLDEN CARDS ( Early writings 39 : 2 ) Using the Bible ONLY Using the Bible FIRST As Adventists claim to do WHERE in the KJV Bible 1611, or in the Hebrew, Aramaic or GREEK of the text do Angels have GOLDEN PLATES GOLDEN CARDS just because Ellen G White and her contemporary Joseph Smith said so ( Chapter and verse please ) If you don't mind Thank you in advance BIBLICAL GOSPEL 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@@killiansayi2162 4 - 7 - 24 The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable 1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18 Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ? SIMPLE Yes.....or......no LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT SAME AS........ SDA : Are your sins blotted out? SIMPLE Yes....or......no
@@killiansayi2162 4 - 8 - 24 You said REVELATIONS three times as in PLURAL It is actually the Book of REVELATION ( SINGULAR ) John the Beloved had a REVELATION ( SINGULAR ) on the Island of Patmos
Many judgments are found in nations and peoples throughout the Bible but the great and final one will be at His Second coming when the sheep (the saved) will be separated from the goats and will be taken to heaven, and (the unbelievers), hosts will burn with fire from heaven and turn to ashes.
Dear Friends, please stop and think...please Matthew 12:31... Revelation 19:10...Revelation 22... The Seventh Day Adventist is the only church that claims to have the gift of Prophecy, who's history lines up with Revelation chapters 10,11,12 & 14... who boldly claims there are call by GOD to take the message of Revelation 14:6-12 to the hold World 🌎 , to call GOD'S sincere people out of Babylon (Sun) (Sunday) worship Revelation 13, 17 & 18 ... Two women (Churches) in Revelation chapters 12-19, Jesus says one belongs to Him Revelation 12. Only one church fits... Revelation 12:17 & 19:10... The Spirit of prophecy is the gift of the Holy Spirit itself to blasphemy the gift is to blasphemy the giver... We're is your Prophet...???
To my beloved SDA brethren, let us leave the matter into God's hands. He does not call us to spark debate. Indeed, it is hurtful to be wrongly accused. However, the truth will shine like mid-day. Our dear Lord was compassionate even to His enemies. The three angels' message will encompass the whole world and all will have to make a decision. Let us forgive and pray for them. By our words and actions, let us reflect the image of our Saviour. "The strongest argument in favor of the gospel is a loving and lovable Christian." (MH 470.1. )
Some truth. But as Paul did to try to show those who were attacking him were wrong. So do Seventh day Adventist use the Bible to show we are following Jesus and keeping his word. Luke 6:5-10 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. And it came to pass also on another sabbath, that he entered into the synagogue and taught: and there was a man whose right hand was withered. And the scribes and Pharisees watched him, whether he would heal on the sabbath day; that they might find an accusation against him. But he knew their thoughts, and said to the man which had the withered hand, Rise up, and stand forth in the midst. And he arose and stood forth. Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it? And looking round about upon them all, he said unto the man, Stretch forth thy hand. And he did so: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
No. The Bible is always first and her writing lesser. She says so many times. For example. The Lord has sent His people much instruction, line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, and there a little. Little heed is given to the Bible, and the Lord has given a lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light. 103 CSA 68.6 "Lay Sister White right to one side: lay her to one side. Don't you never quote my words again as long as you live, until you can obey the Bible. When you take the Bible and make that your food, and your meat, and your drink, and you make that the elements of your character, when you can do that you will know better how to receive some counsel from God. But here is the Word, the precious Word, exalted before you today. And don't you give a rap any more what 'Sister White Said' -'Sister White said this,' and 'Sister White said that,' and 'Sister White said the other thing'. But say, 'Thus saith the Lord God of Israel.'" -- Spalding and Magan Collection 167.2 The Bible is the final authority. God is love. @@nicetry620
@joelvillarreal5243 Yes they do. The sda is a false religion. We as Christians are to stand on the truth and expose this false religion and devils of doctrine. Is Jesus Christ that saves, not keeping the Sabbath. Repent and surrender your life to Jesus before it's to late. Ew is not the way. Jesus is Lord.
@@porfiriojohn5276 @charlynesimms9451 was correct, God doesn't need Theologians. He needs people who are willing to do what He says, be they educated or fishermen. David was a shepherd, then became a soldier and rose to King..... Joseph was a shepherd too, and a prisoner later, and rose to second in command under Pharoh.., It's good to see you actually talking, rather than spamming your befuddled views of Adventism all over. God is Love!
Jesus never sinned. He also kept the Sabbath. Keep reading. Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Matthew 12:8 For the son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day. Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. Acts 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. So why do you say these words are false? Love does no wrong to others, so love fulfills the requirements of God’s law. Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Matthew 12:8 For the son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day. Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. Acts 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. . Read Geneis 2.
Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Matthew 12:8 For the son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day. Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. Acts 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. So why do you say these words are false? Love does no wrong to others, so love fulfills the requirements of God’s law. Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Matthew 12:8 For the son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day. Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
@@nicetry620 But you failed to read her words. She said put her words aside and pay attention and to read the Bible. So I did that. And I continue to do it. I follow the Bible first and foremost.
@@nicetry620 Yes and she says that we are to put her words aside and study the Bible. "Lay Sister White right to one side: lay her to one side. Don't you never quote my words again as long as you live, until you can obey the Bible. When you take the Bible and make that your food, and your meat, and your drink, and you make that the elements of your character, when you can do that you will know better how to receive some counsel from God. But here is the Word, the precious Word, exalted before you today. And don't you give a rap any more what 'Sister White Said' -'Sister White said this,' and 'Sister White said that,' and 'Sister White said the other thing'. But say, 'Thus saith the Lord God of Israel.'" -- Spalding and Magan Collection 167.2
@@nicetry620 Again no problem. since she says to read and study the Bible above all. Why do you have a problem with that? Since I have done it for decades. I began to read more of her words after I spent years in studying the Bible first and above all. So have you read our Fundamental beliefs?
SUNDAY = THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK. MATTHEW 28:1 Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. . JOHN 20:1 Now the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. . ACTS 20:7 Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight. . 1 CORINTHIANS 16:2 On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come. . MATTHEW 12: At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. 2 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, "Look, Your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!" 3 But He said to them, "Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him: 4 how he entered the house of God and ate the showbread which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests? 5 Or have you not read in the law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless? 6 Yet I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the temple. 7 But if you had known what this means, 'I desire mercy and not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the guiltless. 8 For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath." . HEBREWS 10: 9 then He said, "Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God." He takes away the first [Covenant] that He may establish the second. 10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But this Man, AFTER He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. . (Former Jew) Paul, to the church at Rome, in ROMANS 14: 4 Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. 5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord's. 9 For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written: "As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God." 12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. 13 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother's way. .
Peace of God to all believers. Let us embrace the truth even when it is bitter. It is not easy to see error where one belongs in, especially if indoctrinated since childhood. But even with error, one has the right standing with God if they hope in the atoning sacrifice of Jesus. May our SDA brethren not hurt.
Derek Prince, like so many Adventists, now passed away, say that the church can't be founded on Peter, who's proper name only means Rock. But then, try to find another Church that has existed 2,000 years built by Christ himself. You won't. Moreover, Derek Prince is wrong again, because Christ vowed by his sacred word, that he would remain with his Church "even unto the end of the world" putting Derek Prince and all the Protestants who have wished and spoken so much evil to everlasting shame. Moreover, The Apostle Paul writes by the Holy Spirit these infallible words in his epistle to the Church of Rome. *"The God of Peace will crush Satan under the Church of Rome's feet"* Rom.16:20 1John 2:18-19, how that *"They"* WENT OUT and left the Church because *"They"* were not of US (the church) .1John 2 goes on to say, *"for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us:* That's what Protestantism did, *"They"* went out from us. And, in Mt. 28 after Christ's gave his apostles and church "THE POWER" to both FORGIVE and to Retain Sin, he vows, "LO, I am with YOU (THE APOSTOLIC CHURCH) *EVEN UNTO THE END OF THE WORLD* Lastly, Christ providing his own ETERNAL GUARANTEE vows says, "The Gates of Hell shall NOT prevail against it. Mt. 16:16-18, while giving Peter himself, the power to both bind and loosen in Christ's place.
@@catholic4sure976 You are just as lost as the SDA's. You have not rightly divided, (2 Tim.2:15) and if you are in the RCC, and follow their doctrines, you are not even saved. The gospel is 1Cor.15:1-4, through faith in His blood Romans 3:25, and that atoning blood alone, 1Peter 1:18,19, once for all time Hebrews 10:10. Romans 16:20 says "And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.", it does not say "under the Church of Rome's feet". You should look into what God says about changing/taking away/adding to His word - Deut. 4:2, Rev. 22:19, Proverbs 30:5,6. Also, you need to reread Matthew 28, bc it most certainly does not say anything about giving the apostles and the church the power to forgive sin; our sins were judged at the cross. You do realize that Jesus' earthly ministry was to Jews only? And he told Peter and the other apostles to go ONLY to Jews at first. In Acts chapter 10, God tells Peter to go to Cornelius (a gentile). This is where the transition from Jews only to Gentiles happens. Paul is the apostle to the gentiles Gal. 2:7,8. I say these things in love because I want to see you get saved. Now...Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth (Gal. 4:16)? Lastly, please see 2 Peter 3:16. 🙏✝💜
@@catholic4sure976 Jesus gave all of the apostles the ability to bind and loose, which is simply to forgive sins and retain sins according to God's Word (John 20:21-22; Matt 18) There's no record of Peter having been in Rome in the Scriptures. There's no succession written of in the Scriptures. There is warning, however, to only lift up Christ, not teachers, 1 Cor 1. Jesus Christ is head of the church now and forever...we go to Him alone...no man, for forgiveness and acceptance by faith that abides in Christ and His grace John 14:6, ch 15. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, Jesus Christ. Jesus is with all believers who endure and persevere to the end Revelation 2 & 3; John 3, 14, 15. May God's love be with all true believers and those seeking to know Him diligently till the end
@@wyattearpswoman838 False when God said that he will rush Satan under your feet, he is clearly referring to the Romans who belong to the Roman Catholic Church. Was there another in church in Rome at the time? In Romans 16 20, what is that word ROMANs written there? Does it refer to you or your church or to the Romans or the church in Rome?
" We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive thè things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 2Cor : 5 : 10. T
I am curious, what have the Adventist’s done to their bodies? I know that they do not drink any alcoholic beverages, they are vegetarians, do not smoke nor use drugs and follow strict health rules,(exercise , no caffeine, sun, fresh air , lots of natural products, etc.),. So tell us what you think they do bad to their bodies, I would like to hear what you know that I do not know.😁
Yet no one asked those guests (particularly Mr Ford ) the next and probably most crucial question ≈ and that is why doesnt he and others then drop the "SDA" label and bond to it as a denomination . . and rather just call yourself a believer in the one true church ( there is only one truely in SPIRIT) ?? ~ In other words what theological tenants are in SDA that you believe are so accurate that you would continued to be labeled as a member on "SDA church " ??? . . . .
David say the LAW OF THE LORD IS PERFECT.......ANY VARIATION OF IT MAKES IT IMPERFECT and is therefore EVIL.! see Psalms 19;:7....GOD'S LAW is design to convert the soul. .How does God accomplish this? ..See Psalms 1:2 ...& ....Philippians 4:8 Why does God do this? See Ecclesiastes 12:13,14 Paul sayThe LAW OF THE LORD aka THE TEN COMMANDMEMT is HOLY ,PURE JUST and GOOD...see Romans 7:12. James say violation of GOD 'S LAW IS SIN! See James 2:10 - 12 When one violate God Law deliberately it is called PRESUMPTUOUS SIN.. See Numbers 15:30... Psalms 19:13. Another word for presumptuouus sin is iniquity ..Iniquity will keep you out of heaven. David say God want us to mediate on God law BOTH DAY and NIGHT. see Psalms 1:2. Paul say how to do it...See Philippians 4:8 Solomon say Keep God's law. See Ecclesiastes 12:13,14. John in Revelation say COMMANDMENT KEEPERS WILL BE IN HEAVEN... see Revelation 22:14 THE SEVENTH DAY WEEKLY SABBATH IS A PART OF GOD'S LAW.See Exodus 20: 8- 11. Therefore the seventh day weekly sabbath is PERFECT...HOLY...JUST...PURE.. and GOOD! Ellen White's writings IS IN HARMONY WITH GOD'S TEN COMMANDMENT AND THE TESTIMONY.....See Isaiah 8:20.... and that settles it for me! The devil and his agents will obviously find lots of faults with SDA...since they are among the few that teaches and promotes God's law! You can visit the closest SDA church for more information.
A BASIC understanding of dispensations (not the "hyper" stuff) easily refutes the above. We are gentiles during the church age or age of grace. Saved by faith in and acceptance of Jesus's sacrifice on the cross. We are not the nation of Israel looking forward in hopes of a messiah. Reference the Pauline epistles, and I would insist to stay KJV. It's always sad/funny to me that people who insist we are still bound to the law for salvation tend to ignore the multiple places Paul says we're not and that Jesus fulfilled the law. It was referenced above to study to show thyself approved. Read your Bibles everyone. Even if just to say you read the whole thing when asked. It's a lot harder to be misled when you've read and studied yourself. (Coming out of the Assemblies of God, especially the books of the Bible you're discouraged to read).
The comment at the end of Mr.Ankerberg is the true explanation of what it was stated by these Christian pastors. Great interview, Thank you. I have had the privilege to meet Dr. Desmond Ford and heard him preach many times and read his beautiful Christian teaching books, and he is an admirable human being, living a Christian exemplary life and fully committed to preach the gospel good news to all. He is now deceased, but I still read his books who teach the scriptures truths in a clear and proven way. I own and have read also Pastor Rea Book The White Lie that proves the falsehood that Mrs. White is not a prophet. Many , many Christians saw the light and left the S.D.A. Church, I am one of them.
@williamwelch2352 I thought the same thatyou do but the church will never abandon the teachings of Mrs. White and of Jesus incomplete atonement at His death on the cross and that we are been investigated By Him to see if we are fit for heaven, and I can’t belong to a church that teaches such unbiblical truths. Hi rather visit Baptist’s churches that preach Once Saved always Saved than one who makes you fear and doubt if you are.
They saw the light of Calvinism. The teaching of once saved always saved. That is not the Gospel. That is a doctrine. For they teach that GOD chooses to save some people and will send all the rest to hell because only those selected in the eternity past will go to heaven. The rest men, women and children were foreordained to burn in hell for all eternity is what GOD decided before the fall of man.
Samuel Williams isa troll account that goes by WILLIAMS STROUD and MOUNT CARMEL SHOWDOWN also Loren 719... He's completely clueless about the SDA statements of beliefs. Don't bother with him
Paul preached God's JUDGMENT and His SABBATH.... which the Angel in Rev. 14:5,6 declares to be the EVERLASTING Gospel! So Paul was correct, anyone who doesn't Preach the same Gospel he and the Angel Preached, let THAT person be accursed . Do YOU preach the Everlasting Gospel? God is Love!
@@loren719 6 - 2 - 24 Jesus Christ The Holy Apostles The Holy Apostle Paul ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ What's your excuse ?
@@loren719 6 - 2 - 24 ANSWER 1at Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
the truth will always remain .The God that we worship will always reveal Himself to us no matter what. About three cosmic message you can now learn that satan is using all means to deacive the saints.Always breahtren let us stand by God's word .it's not about the seventh day its about what the word of God says.
If you are not a virgin, then you won't be sealed. What do we know about those who are sealed? The book of Revelation does not give us many details about what the seal of God is, and it only gives us a few clues about those who are sealed: They are "servants of our God" (Rev. 7:3) They are 144,000 in number (Rev. 7:4) They are from the twelve tribes of Israel (Rev. 7:4) They have the "Father's name written in their foreheads" (Rev. 14:1; in ancient seals, the king's name was usually found on the seal.) They "were redeemed from the earth" (Rev. 14:3) They "are virgins" (Rev. 14:4) They "follow the Lamb" (Rev. 14:4) Their speech is pure (Rev. 14:5) They are "without fault" (Rev. 14:5) Please note: There is nothing in the description of the 144,000 about Sabbath-keeping. If Sabbath-keeping is indeed the most important and prominent sign that separates true Christians from false ones, then why didn't John at least mention it here in the section of Revelation that is describing those with the Seal of God? www.nonsda.org/study7.shtml
You said: ".it's not about the seventh day its about what the word of God says." Answer: But the Seventh Day IS what God says in His Word. SDA's only emphasize it because most of professed Christians refuse to Keep It..... they're ok with the other nine Commandments , just NOT ok with the Sabbath Commandment (Ex. 20:8-11) So we emphasize it.... "... and they that shall be of Thee shall BUILD the old waste places: Thou shalt RAISE UP the foundations of many generations; And thou shalt be called, THE REPAIRER OF THE BREACH, the RESTORER of paths to dwell in... " Isa. 58:12 What is that "breach"? Continue: "... If thou turn away thy foot from the SABBATH, from doing thy pleasure on MY HOLY DAY; and call the SABBATH a DELIGHT , the Holy of the LORD, Honourable; and shalt Honour Him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Then ... shalt thou DELIGHT thyself in the LORD... " Isa. 58:13,14 See? They that shall be of Thee will Repair that Breach - God's missing Sabbath - and Restore it - and will Delight themselves IN THE LORD! This fits SDA's to a tee, seeking to Restore His missing Sabbath and DELIGHTING in it! Why? Because Jesus is LORD of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28) We Love Jesus, so with delight, we Keep His Sabbath Holy as He called us to! God is Love!!
@@loren719 1 - 18 - 24 #1 Well here you are AGAIN mentioning ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ on ANY of these Threads/ Comments NOR has ANY other Seventh day Adventist ( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE ) Why not ? Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ? Too busy CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller ? Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's and posting more on Saturday's than ANY other day of the WEEK being ? #2 Jesus Christ The Holy Apostles The Holy Apostle Paul ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ What's your excuse ? #3 Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ? What are you Adventists waiting for ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42 ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE !
@@loren719 4 - 8 - 24 It's about what Ellen G White says SELF proclaimed MESSENGER SELF proclaimed Lesser Light SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy And if SHE says that ADDING to the Holy Bible of God's Word , then it's perfectly fine for her to do that
@@loren719 4 - 8 - 24 LDS : Joseph Smith said Angels have GOLDEN PLATES SAME AS....... SDA : Ellen G White said Angels have GOLDEN CARDS ( Early writings 39 : 2 )
I have never known what truth was or ever been set free by truth until I became an SDA. I came to be one because of the Bible, not because of Ellen White. I never even read Ellen White's books. I grew up in many different denominations and left all of them because something being taught did not line up with Scripture. It wasn't unti I went to a seminar that I accepted the SDA church as the Word describes. Those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Christ. It is the only church that is in harmony with what the Bible calls truth, Jesus Christ, His Word and all His commandments are truth, not 9 out of 10. None can change if the Bible says those 3 are truth. However, after hearing Ellen White follwing my conversion I know she is in complete harmony with the Word of God. It's the only time I have ever recognized the Bible being in complete harmony from beginning to the end with no contradictions. Nothing changes except in type and antitype and shadow and substance.
You're not SDA, you're just claiming to be one, because it's clear you don't even understand the official SDA statements of beliefs which requires you to follow Ellen G White's writings
@@nicetry620 apparently you don't know, as there is no requirement to know, but very helpful as a guide, and even puts the Bible as the standard. She uplifts Christ more than any other teacher out there, yet people call her all sorts of names. Shame people do not accept the love of the truth as told by the Word.
@@toddarcand6002 Was the spirit of prophecy MANIFESTED through HER writings according to FUNDAMENTAL BELIEF #18? Yes or No 😏..... answer the simple question
@@nicetry620 according to scripture the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. I never read the fundamentals, but it does not require us to read it, but it is very profitable. By the way, you either have never read anything she wrote or you just hate the truth. Your 2nd response shows your ignorance, impatience, and arrogance over something you have no clue about, and definitely shows you have not the spirit of God in you.
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 SDA is Deception Spirit, Babylon Spirit.
Yes, I do many videos about SDA. The ones I'm working on now will be really good. I have spent a year researching my video I'm working on about how Daniel 8:14 has to be 2300 sacrifices, not days. It is a bad mistranslation in the KJV that led to this fall assumption. The daily mentioned in 8:13 is a daily sacrifice done in the morning and in the evening. So the answer in verse 14 is evening morning, 2300 meaning after 2300 sacrifices are interrupted the sanctuary will be restored (restored back to doing sacrifices). 1150 days fits perfectly with how long Antiochus Epiphanes interrupted the sacrifices. So they have no business doing a year for a day prophecy n a text that is only speaking about 2300 sacrifices halted 1160 days
@@chrislucastheprotestantview You said: "So they have no business doing a year for a day prophecy n a text that is only speaking about 2300 sacrifices halted 1160 days" Answer: Sure "they" do.... according to Gabriel, who was sent to help Daniel understand the vision, the time to start the vision of the 2300 [days] was in 457 BC, the year Artaxerxes .... decreed for Israel to finish building Jerusalem, Temple and "RESTORE' them to a Sovereign Nation; and also the 70 weeks probationary period for Jerusalem to put away transgressions would start at the same place: 457 BC... ... from there, Gabriel said it would be "seven weeks, threescore and two weeks (Dan. 9:25): 7+ 60 + 2 = 69 weeks to Anoint the Messiah. Lets say Gabriel considered the "day for year principle" (found in Ez. 4:5,6 and Numbers 14:34), that would make 69 x 7 = 483 [days] or literal years.... Go from 457 BC , 483 years: 457 - 483 (cross from BC to AD or BCE to CE) = 26 AD, and since there is no year "0" between BC and AD, then the actual date is 27 AD .... Jesus was Anointed with the Holy Spirit descending in the form of a dove in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar (Luke 3:1, 21,22); Since he began his reign alone in 12 AD, then we know that in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar, Jesus was Anointed in 27 AD... 483 years after 457 BC. But 70 weeks were "determined" upon His people (Dan. 9:24) ...meaning there's 1 more week to go, in the "midst" (middle 3.5 years) of that week the Messiah would be cut off or Crucified and go 3.5 years later to finish the week brings us to 34 AD the year Stephen was stoned showing Israel had rejected the Messiah officially killing the Deacon of the newly formed Christian Church..... Their probation as God's Nation was over.... From there, the Apostles declared: "... since you put it from you.... lo we turn to the Gentiles..." Acts 13:46 All of these dates and events fall right in place... IF... we use God's "day for year" principle, but with out it, these dates fall apart. Remember too, Dan. 8:14 says: "Unto 2,300 [days], then shall the Sanctuary be Cleansed."; This event begins from the same place that Gabriel gave to Daniel, 457 BC.... 457 - 2,300 = 1843..... but again, there is no "0" year between BC and AD, so the actual date would be 1844.... the beginning of the Cleansing of the Sanctuary in Heaven. *************** To your comment, yes we DO have business doing a "day for year" principle.... Gabriel, who was sent to give Daniel skill and understanding, showed us. The daily sacrifice was taken away when the Anointed Messiah was Crucified - no more lamb sacrifices, for the True Lamb was Sacrificed.... once - no more daily sacrifice. Notice how God showed us the end of the Sanctuary Services on earth..... look in the Temple when Jesus was Crucified (sacrificed): "And, behold, the veil of the Temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; " Matt. 27:51 The Most Holy Place in the Temple on earth, was now open to the gaze of any man..... whereas before, ONLY the High Priest could enter there and no man was allowed to go in or even look. But now the sacredness is gone, and Jesus the True Sacrifice - the True High Priest, goes to the True Tabernacle that God built in Heaven. "A Minister of the Sanctuary, and of the TRUE Tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man." Heb. 8:2
@loren719 by your interpretation, Jesus was unable to clense the sanctuary in 31 AD. So he did not fulfill Daniel 9. There is no reason to think Daniel 9 fits within Daniel 8. If anything the text says the opposite, if such a connection can even be made. The 2300 sacrifices are done within 1150 days. 1150 days fits inside of 490 years. We also can read the text of Daniel 8, and figure out this prophecy has to be fulfilled by some event before Rome eliminated all the Greece kingdoms by 30 bc. The prophecy says in verses 20 on down, that these prophecy has to do with Greece. No mention of Rome or another beast in Daniel 8. And the previous chapter 7 mentions 4 empires that exist before the stone destroys the statue. So there is no mention of the 4th beast in chapter 8, just the transition from the 2nd to the 3rd. And the 4 kingdoms come out of Greece. And the little horn comes out of 1 of the 4 kingdoms that come from Greece. So this little horn must appear and do these things in Daniel 8 before all the Greek kingdoms are eliminated by 30 bc by Rome. Or else Daniel is a false prophet.
@@chrislucastheprotestantview You said: " by your interpretation, Jesus was unable to clense [sic] the sanctuary in 31 AD. So he did not fulfill Daniel 9." Answer: Jesus was Anointed by the Holy Spirit in AD 27, 15th year of Tiberius Caesar (Luke 3:1,21,22) The anointing of the high priest always preceded the Cleansing of the Sanctuary on the Day of Atonement: "For on that day shall the priest make an ATONEMENT for you, to CLEANSE you, that ye may be clean from all your sins before the LORD.... And the PRIEST whom he shall... ANOINT.... and whom he shall consecrate to minister in the priest's office in his father's stead, shall make the ATONEMENT ... And he shall make an ATONEMENT for the HOLY SANCTUARY, and he shall make an ATONEMENT for the TABERNACLE of the congregation, and for the ALTAR, and he shall make an ATONEMENT for the PRIESTS , and for ALL THE PEOPLE of the congregation. " Lev. 16:30-33 This "shadow" of the True Sanctuary Services in Heaven shows the Priest being Anointed before making Atonement for the Sanctuary and the people. The 31AD, was: " ... in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease..." Dan. 9:27 or Jesus Crucified; By Christ's Crucifixion, the "daily sacrifices" cease, which is why we see the veil in the Temple being torn from top to bottom at the moment of His death (Matt. 27:51).... these "shadows' of the Sanctuary Services came to an end. **************** You said: "There is no reason to think Daniel 9 fits within Daniel 8. " Answer: Daniel couldn't understand the vision in Chp 8, and even got sick over it; In Chp 9 he remembers Jeremiah's prophecy of the 70 years in Babylon, and begins to pray confessing his sins and the sins of Israel.... as if hoping he can receive the same understanding for his vision as Jeremiah did for his. Gabriel comes to Daniel in vs 21, and Daniel tells us, Gabriel was the one whom he had seen before the vision of the "little horn" and "desolation" and " the 2,300 [days]". So... to all of these, Gabriel was sent to give Daniel Skill and understanding vs 22 ; Gabriel also mentioned that he was commanded to come as soon as Daniels supplications were heard. Also, chp 9 makes it clear that it is an extension of the 2,300 [day] prophecy when the Sanctuary was to be Cleansed, when Gabriel said: "... and to ANOINT the Most Holy .." 9:24 - Cleansing the Sanctuary WAS Anointing the Most Holy Place... and everything else. **************** You said: "The 2300 sacrifices are done within 1150 days. 1150 days fits inside of 490 years. " Answer: 1150 days will fit in to anything over 1150 days; What we need to see is WHY there are 1150 days and WHY there are 490 years. As I showed you in my previous comment, 490 years is the "70 weeks" probationary period for Jerusalem to put away transgressions which when we follow Gabriel's instruction, would start at BC 457 taking us 490 years to AD 34, the year Stephen was stoned - the first Christian martyr.. signaling the end of Jerusalem's probation. Most translations agree that 2,300 is either "days" or "even and mornings" both are the same. When we apply God's "day for year" principle (Ez. 4:5,6/ Num. 14:34) then it becomes 2,300 years, making all the dates and events in chp 9 align together showing us that yes, a "day for year" principle is used here, and yes - the starting date is BC 457. *************** You said: "We also can read the text of Daniel 8, and figure out this prophecy has to be fulfilled by some event before Rome eliminated all the Greece kingdoms by 30 bc." Answer: Yes.... even the 4 great world empires: Babylon / Medo-Persia / Greece / Rome, show us that many events took place before Chp. 8 2,300 years takes us into the Roman Empire, where we saw that the Jews had to seek permission from Rome to Crucify our Savior. *************** You said: "And the previous chapter 7 mentions 4 empires that exist before the stone destroys the statue. " Answer: Correct.... the Stone ( Jesus our Rock) hits the toes, where we see the final days of the Roman Empire weakening as the ten ancient European nations began to rise.... iron and clay mixed. *************** You said: "... And the little horn comes out of 1 of the 4 kingdoms that come from Greece." Answer: The 4 "notable ones (horns) " were the Generals that ruled after Alexandar the great died : Antigonus, Casander, Lysimachos , Seleucus, Ptolemy; These are five, but history shows us that out of these 5 generals, Lysimachos did not receive a "cut" of the Empire... so that left only 4 generals to rule after Alexander. These are the "four notable [horns]" Dan. 8:8. ( see: factsanddetails.com/world/cat56/sub366/entry-6412.html ) * Note: Antiochus was born to Seleucus ************** You said: "So this little horn must appear and do these things in Daniel 8 before all the Greek kingdoms are eliminated by 30 bc by Rome. Or else Daniel is a false prophet." Answer: Well.... Miller could've made the same deduction that if Jesus didn't come in 1844, then: "Daniel is a false prophet" ..... Daniel was not a false prophet and Miller misinterpreted what was to happen in Dan. 8:14 The Truth: 1844 is a Bible Prophecy, and Jesus DID "come" to the Sanctuary in Heaven to Cleanse it..... as the Prophet told us. "Behold, I will send My messenger, and he shall prepare the way before Me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly COME to HIs Temple, even the messenger of the Covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, HE SHALL COME, saith the LORD of hosts." Malachi 3:1 1844, according to the Bible marks the beginning of the Cleansing of the Sanctuary in Heaven by the Antitypical High Priest - Jesus Christ. Conclusion? We are in the last days, and His 2nd Coming is eminent. I wish you Peace and God's Love this day!
@loren719 well your last point, you can't just say it happened in the mind of a 17 year old and claim the prophecy came true. Miller never said on October 22 1844, that Jesus was going to enter the heavenly sanctuary, so no one ever interpreted that passage in that way. So you can't say "everyone read it to mean Jesus was going to just enter the holy of holy in heaven and start an investigation". Nope, that didn't get taught until after a failed bad misreading of Daniel 8, and Ellen had this vision. So you are trying to read her vision into the text and claim she is a prophet. She, as a Sunday keeper, told 7th day baptists they had no hope of salvation. So even though the 7th day baptists kept all the commandments which any Christian can read the bible and see the sabbath was not done away with, a supposed "prophet" keeping Sunday is telling the faithful who keep the commandments that they are going to hell with her Shut Door doctrine. And the day of atonement is not even October 22nd according to any jew. But you chose to believe a supposed karaite named E. S. Calman who kept days sunrise to sunrise. I have his letter to the Advent Herald. Even if 10 of tishrei was in October instead of November, Cheshvan is started the same way Tishrei is, when you see the first sighted crescent. And 10 days later is not October 22. But why are you basing your calculations on some guy claiming to be a jew, using a sunrise to sunrise day?
The main problem with Hellen g white was reading biblical materials from othe authors and declaring that it was God divine revelations. Well reading was ok if yu also refer to the Bible for self edification. That's blasphemous and goes down as false prophet.
So is half popular Christianity right now. From what I have heard there may be different emphasizes in their varoiy churches. Saturday was original Jewish teaching. So for doctrine not wrong there. Doesn't mean give up Sundays now. Don't get aberrant on this. The works issue. I detect may he there like others, a natural proclivity if not in doctrine, then in practise by many Christians. But I also think they teach both. Saved by grace, but proven out in works. So it subtly can become both. Then exclusive adherence to doctrines agreed on by a few and handed down. I an a very wide reader in a these issues after many years, and I am concerned witb our personal faith in Christ in our actual lives. That even more than some ideas superfluous to this devotion. I would rather have a deep abiding relationship with and in Christ. He is made wisdom unto us in the Holy Spirit. I ll share what I know alm around. But that's little compared to this one thing needful. A child can embrace this in their small but soft hearts. Praise God! As is said, if we have to know everything, before we do anything; when do we start.
@William Welch the gospel is 1 Cor 15. Jesus died for our sins (on the cross) was buried and rose from the dead on the third according to the scriptures you must believe this Repent and believe Jesus said unless you believe that I AM (he) you will die in your sins
@William Welch the Bible interprets Bible firstly 2nd the gospel is laid out specifically in 1 Cor 15. How are you supposed to win souls if you don't know this. My guess is you yourself have not experienced the new birth John 3:3 It is i.possible to keep the commandments this we have a savior. BTW he doesn't just cleanse past sins he cleanses all sin past present and future. How come all of you never say Jesus? My Bible says at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the Glory of God the Father When the twin towers were falling a guy said to a group of people. All those who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved and they all shouted the name "Jesus" all died except the Christian who gave this testimony Get saved
@@trixielane6885 You're right about the Name of Jesus, but to say: "all of you never say Jesus", is not true. God's Church is clearly identified in Revelation: "Here are that that Keep the Commandments of God and THE FAITH OF JESUS." Rev. 14:12 This foundational SDA favorite, shows the relationship between Jesus and His Law.... and the true nature of His Church.... And especially this one: "And the dragon was wroth with the woman (God's Church) and went to make war with the Remnant of her seed, which KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and have the TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST." Rev. 12:17 Again... the foundational identification marks of God's True or Remnant Church is: Keep the Commandments and Testimony of Jesus... these two flow harmoniously together in a true relationship with Jesus Christ. I know you didn't mean to imply that only calling on the Name of Jesus saves us.... for we see the foolish sons of Sceva invoke the name of Jesus to cast out a demon, and the demon saw right through it: " And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?" Acts 19:15.... then the demon pounced on them and gleefully roughed them up real good. I love that you reminded people to not forget about Jesus, for He IS our Savior and Friend.... and He has plainly said: "If you LOVE ME, Keep My Commandments." John 14:5 Jesus will Save us, but we must OPEN the door (Rev. 3:20) and let Him In our hearts, then He WILL come and Work in us.... that initial "opening of the door" is us responding to His Voice calling us to Follow Him and Obey Him.... When any man refuses to Obey Him, their usage of the Name of Jesus is just as foolish as the sons of Sceva.... the demons love it when we do that. Jesus Loves you Trixie, and will keep you in His Peace - Love Him and Obey Him!
@@loren719 rev 12 and 14:12 is not the church albeit saints. Be honest please there are 2 separate groups in heaven those who have been singing the song of the redeemed. Who have their crowns and robes which are the righteous acts of the saints. And those who have been beheaded their souls are under the altar very alert. The do not come back with Jesus on white horses they don't get ressurrected until after Jesus comes back then they live and reign with Christ for a thousand years You're right I did not imply. I quoted scripture that says all those who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. What did the thief say to Jesus he said remember me when you come into your kingdom. And Jesus said to him truly today you will be with me in paradise. When you believe Jesus. Guess what you get saved just like the thief on the cross. I really think you haven't experienced the new birth John 3:3. If the Holy spirit lives in you you would understand scripture To the church - the gates of hell shall not prevail To saints during the tribulation they are overcome and beheaded by the Antichrist. Since there are no contradictions in scripture. Can't you see two different groups of believers?? I know Jesus loves me I am the bride of Christ I have been born again john 3:3. I have been redeemed I have passed from death to life I am indwelt by the Holy Spirit my name is written in the lambs book of life I have already received eternal life all my sins are washed away. Can you say the same?
Hate thrown at them? No, its not hate. remember the Bible says " love rejoices in TRUTH!" Is it love to not expose the false teachings on this church that could lead people into false security? They do not believe in hell, eternal punishment, even though the LORD JESUS says it exists. They believe in "soul sleep" you sleep in the grave, but God says "absent from the body, PRESENT WITH THE LORD" So WHO is your authority? Ellen g White ? Or THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. PERIOD . CHOOSE YE THIS DAY!
He's wrong about what he calls the 2nd era, the "whole Christian age." Jesus never stopped being Jewish. Rather, a full reading of the Bible (both testaments, or "contracts") shows that Jesus explained the Jewish Feasts of the Lord to the world with his Death and Resurrection. He didn't end them, he brought their true meaning to them. Think about that word "contract" for a moment. The first contract was with circumcision. The promise of redemption for a year's worth of sins, through the blood of prescribed animals, was only available to those who were circumcised and their households. The second contract was clarified during the council at Jerusalem, after Jesus went back to Heaven. The disciples discussed it at length, took a vote, and proclaimed that circumcision was no longer a valid means of discrimination when it came to the offer of salvation through Jesus, who they felt was the Messiah who the lambs, under the previous contract with God, had merely symbolized. Their blood was just a hold-over, until Jesus came and fulfilled (completed) their purpose. While circumcision was no longer the requirement to be able to be saved, and the lambs were no longer required either, that never meant that Jesus, nor the disciples, stopped being Jewish. They didn't eschew Judaism, nor did he, or else this discussion in Jerusalem would never have taken place, and the requirement of circumcision would never have been a topic to discuss. It would have merely been assumed that circumcision wasn't necessary, because they would all have considered themselves to be non-Jews once Jesus had died and rose again, and would have started calling themselves Jesus-ites or something (Christ is a Greek word, not Hebrew nor Aramaic), as the name of their different religion. The first disciples during and after Jesus' death were considered by the Jews of that day to just be another extreme Jewish sect, nothing more. There were dozens of those sects during those days, and really, this was seen as no big deal. The only reason his sect even drew attention at all was because his claim to be the Son of God and King of the Jews was in direct opposition to the authority of Herod. Had he not made these claims, he wouldn't have been crucified, nor even put on trial, and his sect would have run its natural course, like all the others - very likely only lasting for "this generation" (his generation) and then quietly dying out, being replaced by even more Jewish sects over time (until the sacking of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., which wouldn't even be known as that number and denotation, in that alternate timeline). But they would have all still been called Jewish to this day, even though his teachings and healings would have all remained the same as before. This all matters because we have neo-Nazis going around hating on Jews and saying "Jews will not replace us." My response? "A Jew already did."
Jeremiah 31:31-33 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 2Corithains 3:3-11 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; So tell me why you say the laws are done away with?
The laws were given to the nation of Israel. The Old Covenant. Romans 9:4 4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; The stone tablets are long gone. 2 Corinthians 3:3-11 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; We have a new covenant. The New Testament! The new covenant is with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. John 1:17 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Jeremiah 31:31-33 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Galatians 3 23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. Galatians 3:11 11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. Seventh Day Adventists do not keep the whole law. Galatians 5 3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. You will be judged harshly because you are well aware that Ellen White was a false teacher and a false prophetess, yet you refuse to repent and follow Jesus Christ. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."
@@jlewis8145 Christains (those in the new covenant) are the Israel of God. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. {Galatians 3:28-29} Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ* For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN, so making peace; And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby* And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God; [The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun] {Ephesians 2:11-19} Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. {Acts 10:34-35} Again... But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God. {Romans 2:10-11} Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but *the children of the promise* are counted for the seed. {Romans 9:6-8} Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. {Galatians 4:28-29} For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon 👉the Israel of God. {Galatians 6:15-16}
@@larrybedouin2921 It is interesting how you need to add to holy scripture. "Christ abolished the law, just not the ten commandments." It is a sin to add to God's word. Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain ONE NEW MAN, so making peace;
They expose themselves since the SDA's inception through erroneous doctrines. Not only that the very use of the term is erroneous. There is only one church which is the body of Christ, the body of believers. Everything else is an impersonator.
You said: "... SDA's inception through erronious [sic] doctrines There is only one church which is the body of Christ, the body of believers. Everything else in an imposter." Answer: How would you define a "believer" in Christ? For the devils believe.... yet they are waiting their day in hell fire. (James 2:19, Rev. 20:10) So.... in your understanding, what is the difference between devils who believe and we who believe? *************** Many, as yourself, think SDA doctrines are false or "erroneous" but I have found that typically, these are not as familiar with their Bibles as they believe. I have found the SDA Church to be a Bible based, Christian Church.... especially with EGW's writings - for contrary to popular criticisms, she does not replace or contradict scriptures. God's Peace to you my friend!
@@loren719 I've read enough of EGW writings to know they are not inspired by the Spirit. My thoughts were that she was just a nice person, without the knowledge of the Spirit. The church is the body of Christ, the body of believers who are obedient to the Holy Spirit. Eph 1:13, 'And when you heard the word of truth (the gospel of your salvation)-when you believed in Christ-you were marked with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit.' Eph 4:30, 'And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.' 1 John 3:19-24, 'This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence: If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything. Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.' Cheers in Christ, our only hope.
@@loren719 perhaps I didn't make clear the context of my first comment. It is that the church is the people - believers. Just as it is not a building, the church is also not an entity such as the Baptist church and every and any other name. Yes, the church, through the prostitute, which is Christendom, has been deluded to think that a building is a church, and which was copied from the old temple building and alter, these things which are not valid in the church. The church is the sum of believers, which include those from the denominations - Baptist, SDA etc, if they truly believe. The church is, therefore not divided by invalid names and false concepts. There is one faith, one church, one Saviour. 'Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?' 1 Cor 1:13. In other words; Was the SDA entity crucified for you? Were you baptised in the name of the SDA? All these entities are divisions concocted by man. They are not the church any more than a building can be a church. Cheers
@@robertcain3426 Thanks for sharing the wonderful passages: Eph. 1:13/ 4:30 / 1 John 3:19-24 / 1 Cor. 1:13 .... But what do these have to do with EGW's inspiration? She cherished these verses. I agree that God's Church is a body of believers in Christ, and SDA's started out as believers from other Churches and saw the Biblical neglect of God's Seventh Day Sabbath, and the denial of the Prophet Daniel Prophecy (Dan. 8:14) guided by Gabriel, to pin point the Last Days with the final phase of Atonement and Christ's Heavenly Ministry as our Great High Priest to Cleanse the Sanctuary in Heaven, making it clear the 2nd Advent (coming) Of Jesus is now imminent... not "day and hr" , but imminent. Because of William Millers "mistake" that Dan. 8:14 spoke of Christ's 2nd Coming, many believers shrank away and threw out this Bible Prophecy.... the five founders took to study and prayer to find the "mistake" and uphold His Word, specifically this Bible Prophecy in Dan. 8:14. This body of believers - the SDA Church holds what John called in Revelation: "The Everlasting Gospel " Rev. 14:6,7 - God's Judgment and His Sabbath. There are Many Faith based, Christ Loving believers in the SDA Church... and the 5 founders were certainly no exception - they Loved Jesus with all their hearts and dedicated their lives to serving Him! Thank you for taking the time to talk to me... may God Bless you! God is Love!
Where was the presence of God in the earthly sanctuary ? Wasn't it in the most holy place where god presence dwell? Tell me why scriptures reiterates Upon Christ ascension he to sit at the RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER. WHICH HIGHPRIEST IN THE EARTHLY SANCTUARY SAT ? NONE BECAUSE THEIR SACRIFICES WERE CONTINUOUS. CHRIST WHEN HE DRANK THE VINEGAR SAID IT IS FINISHED. WHY WAS THE VEIL TORN IN TWO? HOW COME WE NOW HAVE DIRRECT ACCESS TO THE FATHER? WHICH SCRIPTURES SAYS CHRIST IS PERFORMING CONTINUOUS ATONEMENT FOR US IN HEAVEN? IS CHRIST A SINFUL LEVITICAL HIGHPRIEST ? U SDA'S CLAIM U FOLLOW BIBLE TUTH BUT UR DILLUSIONAL. UR BIBLE TRUTH IS VIEWED THROUGH THE LENS OF ELLEN G WHITE. 😮
@@charnelallan7159 I'm not sure why you got 4 "likes" to your questions... you gave questions but no answers. Lets answer a couple of your questions and if you're still interested, I'll do some more. You asked: "WHY WAS THE VEIL TORN IN TWO?" Answer: This account is found in Matt. 27:50,51.... when Jesus died on the Cross, the veil in the Temple was torn from top to bottom.... the reason should be Biblically self evident: Jesus is NOW the Sacrifice - the Lamb of God, and no more sacrifices are necessary for instead of offering a lamb, we look to Jesus the TRUE Lamb / also Jesus NOW becomes the TRUE High Priest in Heaven - the earthly sanctuary is no longer sacred.... for this sanctuary and it's ceremonial services with it's animal sacrifices were mere "SHADOWS" pointing us to Christ: "We have such an High Priest, who is set on the Right Hand of the Throne of the Majesty in the Heavens; A Minister of the Sanctuary, and of the TRUE TABERNACLE, which the Lord pitched, and not man. " Hebrews 8:1,2 KJV What happened to the sacrifices and the sanctuary on earth - "SHADOWS" ? "For if He were on earth, He should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: Who serve unto the Example and SHADOW of Heavenly things... " verses 4,5 That is why the veil in the temple was torn in half, for the "shadows" met the TRUE in Christ Jesus - "type" met "antitype' - the earthly ceremonies and sacrifices are done ***************** You asked: "WHICH SCRIPTURES SAYS CHRIST IS PERFORMING CONTINUOUS ATONEMENT FOR US IN HEAVEN" Answer: When Aaron went into the Most Holy Place in the temple on earth, on the day of Atonement, he brought the blood of the lamb into the Most Holy Place and sprinkled it on the ark of the covenant (Lev. 16: 27)... this act was atonement for the sanctuary and for the people. This is exactly what the TRUE High Priest does with His own Blood in the TRUE Sanctuary in Heaven: "Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own Blood He entered in once into the Holy Place, having obtained Eternal Redemption for us." Heb. 9:12 KJV This Blood of Jesus was "obtained" on the Cross, where He purchased our Pardon; He, then, goes into the Most Holy Place in the TRUE Tabernacle or Sanctuary in Heaven with His Own Blood .... just like the shadow in Lev. 16:27 shows us. I'll stop here.... If you'd like me to answer more, then let me know and I would be happy to. God Loves you, @charnelallan7159 !
Matthew 18:23-34 clearly shows a parable by Jesus of a servant that was forgiven his tremendous debt but afterwards his debt return on him because he did not forgive others. It’s not once saved always saved.
_It’s not once saved always saved._ Maybe you don't understand the real meaning and character of someone who is truly saved. If Jesus is your all, you are truly saved If your sabbath keeping is your all, you ARE NOT saved.
Revelation 3:5 refers to the book of life in which the names of believers in the Lord are found. These are those who overcome the trials of earthly life, proving that their salvation is genuine. Revelation 3:5 The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels. This verse also makes it clear that once a name is written in the book of life, Jesus promises that He will never blot it out, proving once more the doctrine of eternal security. The Lord Jesus, who is speaking to the churches in this part of Revelation, promises to acknowledge his own before His Father.
@@jlewis8145 Revelation 3:5 says indeed that he that OVERCOMETH, I will not blot his name out. With this statement it indicates that if you don’t overcome or turn back from the path off righteousness, like the dog returning to its vomit 2 pet 2:22, your name will be blotted out. “Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.” Psalm 69:28 Revelation 3:5 does not say that The Lord will NEVER blot our names out btw. I do agree thought that He will never blot my name out once I am sealed in my forehead. Ezekiel 9:4 And the parable that I brought up in Matthew still stands. The servant was forgiven his debt but afterwards his debt returned onto him because of his actions.
@@smitsidney7812 I have already been sealed. Ephesians 1:13 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. I know for sure that when I did I will be with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. There will be no soul sleep for me. 2 Cor. 5:8 To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. "For me to live is Christ and to die is gain." Phil. 1:21 Ezekiel 9:4 was written to Ezekiel and in turn the nation of Israel. It is not a good idea to take verses out of context and apply them to yourself. I already have eternal life. John 10 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Daniel 9 explains Daniel 8:14. Daniel could not understand the 2300 days until it is shown in Daniel 9. So it is not understood as two separate different biblical texts but ar linked. The gospel is saved by grace but judged by our works. The books are open. Rev.20:12 and names written in the book of life Daniel 12:1-13. and Eccl. 12:14. Judgment is present in the gospel. Gospel is good news cause Jesus is our advocate and judge. Perfect Christian character is is totally possible 2Peter 1:3-4 and we can overcome totally by the power of the Holy Spirit. Revelation speaks to that 7 times in Chapters 2 and 3, The only lie being told is by the devil who says no one can overcome and Jesus says it differently.
Works are the evidence of our faith. You need to keep the law perfectly to get into heaven. Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect. Have you been made perfect?
@@jlewis8145 I could never be worthy with out Jesus. Nobody could without his love. Jesus is perfect in the law . It is his perfect sacrifice that saves his people. Those who believe in him and keep his comments. All of them. Who gives anyone the right to say I can break even just one? Not God. It is him alone who will be the judge. Nobody else is qualified
@@alfredperez5374 We are no longer under the law. Jesus fulfilled the law. God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Leviticus 23 and Acts 2 God requires perfection to get into heaven. Have you kept the commandments perfectly? Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect. James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet offend in one point he is guilty of all.
@@alfredperez5374 Why do you follow the teachings of a false prophetess? Why do you follow the teachings of a woman? I Corinthians 14 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
@@jlewis8145 I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Each day is new each day I try to love all my neighbors and pray for his spirit to guide me. All have the potential to change. All can have the Holy spirit if they choose. I can never take the job from He who can read the heart of all people. He is the only True Judge of men.
Judgment will come for the lost for sure but the saved will have no sins to be judged for, Jesus washed them away and are no more, they will be wearing the righteous robe of Jesus.
Romans 8:1,2. “There is therefore no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. For the law of the Sirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.✝️📖❤️🙏 Good News!
Romans 4: 7,8 Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been covered. Blessed is the man whose sins the Lord will not take into account. Blessed assurance!
You people tripping. 🤔 We grew up around Sunday churches. Was also exposed to the New Age movement. Got caught up in the vices prevalent in housing projects in d.c. Saturday's were a high sports day for playing and watching. When some young ladies I met while hanging out in Georgetown DC, told me they were seventh-day Adventist, I thought they went to church 7 days a week. They invited me out to the then Columbia Union College. This was in the early 70s. I studied their literature and checked out this mysterious Ellen G White woman who I likened to Jean Dixon, an prove to them the Sabbath day was not Saturday; and Ellen White was a witch. I was baptized in 1974 and the rest is history. You people are spending a tremendous amount of energy to tear down the wall. All this is going to get you is an appointment on the hot seat, and jumping around with hot feet.🔥🔥
God's remnan people are those who keep the COMANDEMENTS of God and the testimony of JESUS... apokal 12:17 Those who Atact Seventday Adventis Church because Thy are Inspire by Satan to expres his angry 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
It’s Jesus Himself who has BROKEN the Sabbath. JOHN 5:18 “Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only HAD BROKEN THE SABBATH, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.” Jesus had broken the Sabbath, and He was persecuted and killed by those Sabbath keepers Jews. Now, you have to choose which one you should follow, You have to choose, Jesus that have broken the Sabbath ? Or the Sabbath Worshippers that killed Jesus? If you side with the murderers, then you are not of God but of the children of the devil. As what Jesus told the Sabbath worshippers Jews that do not believe in Him. JOHN 8:44 “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”
5 - 29 - 24 On the Sabbath "" For this reason the Jews ( Sabbath keepers ) tried all the more to take his life, because he NOT ONLY BROKE the Sabbath but he also called God his own Father,making himself EQUAL with GOD "" John 5 : 18
Why would we have worry? When we can put our full trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. We can always trust in him. The Sabbath is the Holy day of rest. God asked us to remember this. worry is not restful.
This is where you are wrong. Most sda's know they are saved by Christs' death and resurrection. Jesus has paid the price for their redemption. There is nothing for them to worry about.
I can’t help but wonder why we need to go to 40 + year old tapes of former and already discredited SDA theologians to make a point. Both of these men have long passed and we’re discredited by the church at the time this tape was made. They do not represent SDA theology now or at the time this tape was made. The distortions of SDA beliefs here are many.
Have you ever read the Bible 'without' the lenses of an ism? You would never fall for any of them. Be a good Berean stick to the Bible to determine if a doctrine is true...we don't stick to a man-made doctrine when the Bible clearly teaches in opposition to it with even ONE verse. Ellen White had many failed prophecies, she lied to her followers when writing books containing pages and pages of written material from another writer claiming to be inspired by God. When she wrote of God's Truth, that was good. But far too much was purely EW. Read 1 Cor 1 and follow Paul's advice. Keep your eyes on Jesus Christ and HIS Doctrines, His Ways, His Truth. No where does the Bible teach Jesus and Satan were brothers, that's heretical. No where does the Bible teach about IJ, Investigative Judgment...that's EW's way of saving face for false prophecy of 1844 (yr?) Jesus never came. When you look through the eyes of any ism your mind plays tricks on you...why do you think Jesus often said ' the blind lead the blind'? I pray you and those you love will step into the True Gospel of Jesus Christ, let your mind, heart and soul be illuminated with His Truth...no man nor woman is going to lead you closer to Christ than being committed one on one with Him
@@jlewis8145 I've seen you ask this same question to others.... are you under the impression that SDA's don't know if they're Saved or not?? Did you know that there are many Sunday Keepers who don't know if they're Saved or not ?? I mean, this is a question that Many professed Christians are uncomfortable with, but you, however, seem to believe that it only makes SDA's uncomfortable.... well that is not so; The Truth is..... Born again SDA's have every assurance, through Bible Promises, that they will be Saved as they daily walk with Jesus; In Christ, we have no Fear of God's Judgment for we KNOW where we stand with Jesus!! Notice: " Herein is our Love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the Day of Judgment: because as He is, so are we in this world." 1 John 4:17 and... "... but perfect Love casteth out fear, " verse 18 Praise God for the Gift of His Dear Son!! Wouldn't you say so, ljewis8145? Let me ask you a questions: Do you Love Jesus?
SDA face the truth the truth hurts, whatever is now covered up will be uncovered and every secret will be made known. Jesus Christ the only way to God the Father Almighty
Amen! Bottom line,.God has the final verdict. In the New Heaven and New Earth.We will be worshipping God. Isaiah 66:22-23 KJV For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. [23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord. I am looking forward to worship God on His Holy Day The Sabbath Day "The Seventh Day."
Be informed that we can we test the spirits and you are only shedding darkness. "To the LAW and the TESTIMONY; if they speak not according to this WORD, it is because there is no LIGHT in them" Isaiah 8:20 Thank you for exposing yourself.
Sadly we need denominational guidance. But we need to read the Bible to choose which one Jesus would approve of. God is love. Those who teach to Love GOD and love others are good churches.
1. The law is not done away with it is established. Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. 1 John 3:4 whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 2Corithians 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. 2. The law does not save. Its job is to define sin. Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Read Romans 6 and Ephesians 2 3. Love leads us to follow the law. Jesus and Paul list’s directly six of the Ten Commandments. Romans 13:8-10 Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Love fulfills the law. Romans 13:8-10 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Matthew 5:27,28 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Ephesians 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;)
SAMUEL WILLIAMS is a bot account⚠️☝️ that can't debate the SDA statements of beliefs... It will present a sources or two from Wikipedia or scripture but crashes when presented with a challenge to debate the SDA statements of beliefs and the contradictions that over shadow the church... It will then began repeating the same thing over and over making baseless claims without any form of justification through sources.. It's programed to constantly comment a few things about the Sabbath... and the other comments are all the same over and over .....God loves you, why tell lies"..... It can't comprehend a legitimate debate about the SDA church through multiple sources...
Not for us to continue in sin; keep God's Word & His 10 Commandments; & nit the Commandments of mankind before God. God Bless & guide you. The two Commandments Jesus is referring to is His 10 Commandments broken in half. The 1st part is how to love Him & the 2nd is how we should love each other. Don't be fooled by amyone!
@William Welch sounds holy and rightous to add any law beond love and as i was a former assistant pastor of sda church after removed for drinking coffie free from sda ware food distubution house and delivering to refugees and poor and well respected by the poor preaching the cross and gospel of love The True church dont thow a true christian out of ministry over coffie drinking caught out in ministry as that is a petty pathetic false relegious works false relegion to do so. I choose ministry as a gracevoreacher now and enjoy my coffie without fear shame and guilt.
1 Corinthians 6:1-3,5-20 KJV Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? [2] Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? [3] Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? [5] I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? [6] But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. [7] Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? [8] Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. [9] Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. [11] And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. [12] All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. [13] Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body. [14] And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power. [15] Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. [16] What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. [17] But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. [18] Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. [19] What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? [20] For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
@William Welch strong messege tho anyone that says is without sin is a lier the bible says. But in spirit and in christ rightousness we are not sinning. Christ is the law fulfilled within us not one jot or jittle done away except animal sacrifice. Tho the law of love covers it all. If ye love me jesus said keep his commandments possible by the enabling power of the holyghost that is and becomes our strength to do so..... bless you William.
@@sardotabil6347 yes true but not by our own strength or rightousness but entered into christ rightousness made whole and perfect tho we still sin when in the fallen condition as anyone says is without sin is a lier the bible says. Tho not to make lifestyle of sin as that is cursed sin. I knew SDA couple not married for years loved and embraced by the church living in sin then they finally married and he became a pastor a great man of god. Be careful not to judge Sardo and take the speck out of your own eye as only god knows the intent of their hearts. The law of love covers it all and if ye love me jesus said live my commandments tho enabling power of the holyghost is and becomes our strength to do so and not by our own efforts always. Mary magnalene never returned to prostitution and go away and sin no more tho in reality proberbly did commit many little sins after that. Be so busy loving for no time to judge. We judging in heaven or judging those being sentenced to heaven or hell as the books of life open up will not be among the self rightous on earth squeeky clean without blemish as all are sinners but the holy levels of the sanctury within can be improoved apon even by some efforts but mainly with gods help but avoid becomming a rightous pharisee in the process. Do not even condem people to hell who are wandering after the mark of the beast sunday roman law for even many of those pure in heart will have their just reward even heaven for indeed the pure i heart shall see god who come unto the cross of jesus christ amen.
I'm thinking of becoming a Adventist. I don't see a cult at all. They know there bible so well and they are into God every day not just Saturdays. All. This hate being thrown at them only makes me want to pick the Adventist church as my church on this investigation.
I know the Bible far better than any Seventh Day Adventist. If you were to read the Bible as a child, you would never come up with the teachings of the SDA church. There is no hate. Where does the Bible say that God is not omniscient and must do an 'Investigative Judgment' to determine those who are saved? Where does the Bible say that Jesus will return on April 23, 1843? Where does the Bible say that Jesus will return on March 21, 1844? Where does the Bible say that Jesus will return on October 22, 1844? Where does the Bible say that the 2300 days is actually years? Where does the Bible say that the 2300 days/years started in 457 BC? Where does the Bible say that the mark of the beast is keeping the Sabbath? Where does the Bible say that the door to heaven was shut on October 22, 1844 and that Seventh Day Adventists will not get into heaven? "From the ascension, to the shutting of the door, Oct., 1844, Jesus stood with widespread arms of love, and mercy; ready to receive and plead the cause of every sinner, who would come to God by him." A Word to the Little Flock, 1847, p.2. It is clear from this last quotation that the shutting of the door in October, 1844 meant that Jesus NO LONGER "stood with widespread arms of love, and mercy; ready to receive and plead the cause of every sinner..." That is what James White considered to be the meaning of "shut door." In an extensive article in The Present Truth, May 1850, he dealt in great detail with the subject, especially on the shut door. In that article he says, page 79: "From the best light we could then obtain from the autumnal types we were very confident that the days would end at the seventh month.... When we came up to that point of time, all our sympathy, burden and prayers for sinners ceased, and the unanimous feeling and testimony was, that our work for the world was finished for ever." www.nonegw.org/egw27.shtml
Sda church divided as some struct to ellen whites teachings and others not and i was not when a pastor yet removed from mininistry for regular coffie drinking on my missions to help the poor in delivering from sda food ware house that included crates off milk coffie that i drank with the refugee families to caught out. Petty pathetic my ministry ended over coffie just like when a mormon priest. Cult relegions do that petty nonsence
Hey brother Ankerberg, you did not expose Adventist church as false church, by comparing it to Sola Scritura rule, you only exposed your own worship of Sunday as being false Sabbath. Find for us and cite it, where in Bible did Jesus/God command or initiate transfer of holiness from Sabbath to Sunday. No feeble justifications like: "Well...we worship Sunday because Jesus resurrected on Sunday, and started the worship anew"..Non-sense!. Show us in the Bible where did Jesus say that. Paul worshiped ONLY on Sabbaths 40 years after Jesus ascention. If Jesus has changed Sabbath worship to Sunday worship, wouldn`t he have informed Paul about that - in 40 years of directing him what to write for our spiritual counsells. So by your own rule Sola Scritura, you condemned your self John as not living by the same rule.
The only thing brainwashed sda's can speak on😏 sabbath, sabbath, sabbath.... Let's just forget about the SDA statements of beliefs and how Ellen G White the false prophet has authority EQUAL to scripture over the sda church
God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Leviticus 23 and Acts 2 Why do you follow the false prophecies of a woman? Women are to be silent in the church, yet your church is based on the teachings of a woman? Paul did not worship on the Sabbath. He went into the synagogues to reason with the Jews. Do you do that? Why not? ************* The 'Investigative Judgment' is one of the most blasphemous teachings of the SDA church. You should be ashamed of it. You make Jesus Christ look like an idiot. Jesus Christ is not a CSI agent trying to figure out who will be saved and who won't be saved. 1. God already knows who are His own - SDAs teach that God must make an investigation to determine whose names to keep in the Book of Life, and whose to blot out. The Bible teaches that God already knows who the righteous are: I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep? (John 10:14) The Lord knoweth them that are His. (2 Tim. 2:19) 2. The Bible is very clear that God already knows exactly who is righteous and who is not. He does not need to carry out any 'investigation' to determine who the righteous are. God Knows Everything - One of the attributes of God's nature is "omniscience" which means that God knows everything that is possible to know. There is nothing that God does not already know. Known unto God are all His works from the beginning of the world. (Acts 15:18) Can any hide himself in secret, that I shall not see him? Saith the Lord. Do not I fill heaven and earth? Saith the Lord. (Jer. 23:24) The word of God is living and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. And there is no creature that is not manifest in His sight; but all things are naked and laid open to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do. (Heb. 4:12,13) O Lord, Thou hast searched me, and known me. Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising. Thou understandest my thought afar off. Thou searchest out my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways. For there is not a word in my tongue, but lo, O Lord, Thou knowest it altogether. (Ps. 139:1-4) Jesus did not commit Himself unto them, because He knew all men, and needed not that any should testify of man; for He knew what was in man. (John 2:24) Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray Him. (John 6:64) In 1844, God already knew everyone that was saved. In fact, before the world even existed He already knew the exact list of which humans would be saved and which ones would be lost. Why would God need to "investigate" something He has known since before the dawn of time? 3. When are sins blotted out? - The SDA Church teaches the sins of the righteous are not blotted out until after the Investigative Judgment. The Bible teaches that our sins are blotted out when we repent: I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee. (Isaiah 44:22) Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. (Acts 3:19) and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 1 John 1:7 ******* Seventh-day Adventists teach the following regarding the Investigative Judgment: 1. Christ moved from the Holy Place to the Most Holy Place in the heavenly sanctuary on October 22, 1844, and began a new phase of ministry. This ministry was foreshadowed by the Levitical Day of Atonement (Lev. 16:16-33). 2. The first phase of the "Day of Atonement" is called the "cleansing of the Sanctuary." It involves a pre-Advent investigation and judging of God's people to determine whose sins will be removed from the Sanctuary. Christ started this judgment in 1844, beginning with Adam and Eve and progressing chronologically down through the ages, judging all of the dead believers. At some point, near the end of time, Christ will begin judging living believers. During this Investigative Judgment God either blots out the sins of the believer, or he removes the name of the believer from the Book of Life. As during the typical Day of Atonement the cleansing of the earthly sanctuary removed the sins accumulated there, so the heavenly sanctuary is cleansed by the final removal of the record of sins in the heavenly books. But before the records are finally cleared, they will be examined to determine who through repentance and faith in Christ is entitled to enter His eternal kingdom. The cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary, therefore involves a work of investigation or judgment that reflects the nature of the Day of Atonement as a day of judgment. This judgment, which ratifies the decision as to who will be saved and who will be lost. nonsda.org/index.html
Very good, Christ kept the law and showed us how to keep it, he ended the penalty of the law on the cross which was eternal death, and resurrected to assure us of resurrection after death. Therefore the scripture means that the law points us to Christ, because he says if you love me keep my commandments John 14:15
@@mwanjeemmanuel5866 There are 53 commands of Christ in the New Testament. Interestingly, not one of them says to keep the Sabbath. Please read your Bible as a child without the help of your church.
Commands can be said and expressed by actions, Jesus's actions and words spoke the same way, Luke 4:16 it was his custom to go to the synagogue on the Sabbath dat
@@mwanjeemmanuel5866 Jesus Christ was under the law, so he kept the Sabbath. Even Paul went into the temple on the Sabbath to reason with the Jews. Do you go into your local synagogue on Saturday to reason with Jewish people?
The promise of salvation by Jesus is conditional. Forgiveness is promised to those who ENDURE to the end. If someone who accepts Jesus should turn back to his old ways his sins will not be forgiven. Read Ezekiel -- if someone does good all his life but turns to evil at the end , his good will not be remembered. And if someone who does evil all his life but turns to doing good at the end , his evil will not be. remembered.
5 - 12 - 24 Going to an SDA church on Saturday's and telling like minded people "" Happy Sabbath ! " doesn't mean by default you are KEEPING and OBEYING ALL the LAW of ALL the Commandments of God
@@porfiriojohn5276Christians are to keep all 10 Adventists highlight the Saturday Sabbath because this is the Commandment that professed Christians are openly violating. There is no need to highlight the other 9.
D. M. Canright wrote in Seventh-day Adventism Renounced - The number of their actual converts does not tell the harm they do. Where they convert one they confuse a score, who after that have no settled faith in any church, and are useless for any Christian work. Other conscientious persons are bothered and worried over it for years, not knowing what to do. A statement from over a hundred years ago that holds true to this day. Come to Christ 🙏
Yes people wish to choose an easy way to heaven. Not one where we are to walk in love of God and love of others. I hear a lot of accusations but no proof. Love leads us to follow the law. Jesus and Paul list’s directly five of the Ten Commandments. Romans 13:8-10 Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Ephesians 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;) 2Corithians 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. 4. Most people agree with the first three as they being sins. Of the other four all will admit that it is a sin to have other gods, bow down and worship idols and to take the name of GOD in vain. Protestant Ministers have stated the Ten Commandments are for Christians. dedication.www3.50megs.com/greatmen.html Great Preachers on the Ten Commandments. John Calvin taught extensively on the Ten Commandments In this way it will be made more clear, that the worship which God originally prescribed is still in force,… 10commandments.biz/biz/john_calvin_and_ten_commandments.phtml John Calvin: Here I think it will not be out of place to introduce the Ten Commandments of the law with a short explanation of them. Thus, the point I have touched upon will also be made clearer: that the public worship that God once prescribed is still in force. www.monergism.com/explanation-moral-law-ten-commandments-john-calvin en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments Wikipedia So No adultery, No killing, no stealing, No lying. No Coveting. Then Honor our parents. So do you believe worshipping idols and and no other gods. Is okay? That is your logic on the Sabbath. So is taking the name of GOD in vain okay?
@@samuelwilliams1559 Hahahaha 😂 NO! We are not going to play your game! ROMANS 10:13 Anyone who calls on the name of the LORD is Saved! YES PEOPLE OF THE WORLD! You will be Saved just by Believing as Abraham did! Ignore the Children of the Burnt Over District with their lies and twisting of Scripture. Turn from the Spirit of Error that is EGWitless! DM Canright also wrote - "Who is Deceived? Seventh-day Adventists dwell much on how easy it is to be deceived, to be led by Satan, when we think it is the Lord - to believe a lie for the truth. It is amusing to see how innocently they apply this to all others, and never dream that is has any application to themselves! What, THEY deceived? THEY misled? Impossible! They KNOW they are right. Exactly, and that is just the way all feel, whether they be Mormons, Shakers, Catholics, or what not. The Adventists themselves are an illustration of the ease with which people are misled." Come to the True Jesus 🙏 Acts 2:21 🕊️
@@nicetry620 I have only been Samuel Williams. YOur lies shows that you do not respect the truth. The hate speech sadly shows who you are. I pray you choose to stop lying and disagree if you have real points. Jesus loves you. I ask you to walk in love Please.
Oh Ellen White. How many millions of people will be saved because of the faithful ministry of that woman of God. Look at the fruit of her work. A worldwide church dedicated to ministry for God. Look at the life of the woman. Always lifting up Jesus Christ and Scripture. And all these people can do is pick at a few isolated quotes taken far removed from its context. God bless you Ellen White. Take your rest in the grave. One day the Lord will exalt above those who hate the truth.
@@jlewis8145 And why do you smoke crack and not read your Bible? God always Investigates before Judgment. See Adam n Eve, see Cain, see Antediluvians, see Sodom and Gomorrah, see Second coming and see the Bible. lol
4 - 8 - 24 Seventh day Adventists believe under their Investigative Judgment because Ellen G White said so that ALL Seventh day Adventists will face the Judgment seat of God WITHOUT Jesus Christ as their FRIEND PASTOR ADVOCATE JUSTIFIER GLORIFIER SANCTIFIER REDEEMER SCAPEGOAT at the Judgment seat of God
Evening and morning are 24 hours(.) Simple. Thats why it is worded as such. Every SDA preacher preaching this doctrine uses 'days'. Intentionally changing the scripture. Thus intentionally deceiving. This truth totally blows up 'their doctrine'... Other doctrines are bent as well. But, im not looking for a debate. Just speaking truth.
Why would they think they are the only true Christians? I believe SDA's to be a cult just like other works based salvation ie keeping the Sabbath. And you think people who just believe the gospel don't go to heaven which is blasphemous
@@trixielane6885 we're not Jews though and we're in the new covenant not the old. Colossians 2:16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. 17 These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. 18 Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, 19 and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God. 20 If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations- 21 “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” 22 (referring to things that all perish as they are used)-according to human precepts and teachings? 23 These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh. What ever you do, do unto the Lord. But that's not what sdas teach. The Sabbath = the substance of Christ. SDAS teach keeping the 4th commandment (which they cannot and do not do it fully anyways, whoever keeps one part of the law must keep ALL James2:10) and you will be saved. Romans 14:5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. Actually Romans 14 even refutes Ellen's vegetarian diet "vision" Whatever each person chooses they do to the Lord. But SDAs don't teach that and anything that is contrary to the Lords word should be dismissed. I got no problem with people keeping the Sabbath or eating clean not a problem. That's their choice. But when an organisation says you're not saved unless you keep the Sabbath or eat clean foods and say you're anathema because of it, and then have the cheek to say they're God's remnant.. That I have a problem with. Former sda here....
@@trixielane6885 I'm a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ and whatever I do I must worship in truth and in spirit. Doesn't matter what denomination I attend, Jesus didn't intend for it to be like that. He is the head of the body and I love everyone from each denomination, including sdas, Catholics, JWs and Mormons. My greatest prayer is for them to know the true gospel that salvation is a gift of grace from God the Father and they do not need to do works in order to obtain salvation, they need only believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and they will be saved. And the works they do perform is fruits of their salvation. The grace of God is a beauty to behold.
Everytime, a show to discredit the SDA church is made only people who have been fired, bitter will speak for the church. But the talk show hosts know very well SDA pastors who are always on internet preaching the gospel in the perspective of SDA community and they do not call them. There are so many things said in this program where they twisted the teachings of SDA.. But we are not surprised.
What I have a problem with is this whole thing of EGW claiming she had "visions" but in reality, she was just taking material from outside sources. Leads me to ask what she called a "vision." Was she stretching that meaning to be anything from an actual "vision" to, oh, I dunno, "viewing that which was on the page already"??? Anyway, most of what she wrote regarding the history of the Jewish people, including in Jesus' day, doesn't even match up with what's known now, from historical research (including archaeology), into the culture of the Hebrews, the Maccabees, the Jews, the Cohanim... She got so much of that wrong, that the idea that the claims she made were from "visions from God" or whatever, is completely laughable.
And that was a proven facts that Ellen G White was a false prophet. And yet Adventists still can’t and won’t accept this. Most of their members are educated and some have a Ph.D degree. I may say the reason behind this is the work of the devil. They were blinded by the devil, as what the bible says II CORINTHIANS 4:4 “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
She suffered from hysteria and was treated at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. That plus the seizures, the lying, plagiarism, blasphemy, etc., makes for a bad mix.
" SCHOLARS", John Ankerburg, I Corinthians 12:28 says And God set in the church first Apostles, second prophets, third, teachers, etc. No mention of Scholars in scripture having a position in the church.
Thanks. I'm fully cognizant of the role of a scholar. Ankerburg assumes a quote / unquote hegemony on a select group of Bible expositor's. To condone such goes against the spiritual operation of the holy Spirit. John 14:16 - 17 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever; Even the Spirit of truth; Ankerburg s outreach to Bible scholars and not the "called or annointed " of God weakens the faith. II Timothy 3 Ever learning and never able to come to work he knowledge if truth is what scholars are because they are not filled with the holy spirit. They self serve .
I've never heard so much foolishnes ever in saying that sda's have a different gospel. Isn't all the Bible the word of God? So what is your point? I'd like you to carefully read Revelation 1:1-3, how do you understand these verses? One thing I know is that satan will always try to keep as many as possible from truth of God's word..No matter how much stigma is placed on sda's, God's message will shine forth. We have a message to give to the world, and this message is in Revelation 14: 6-10 Come out of Babylon (confusion) and worship the true God. I believe there is more truth in this message, calling ppl out of the manmade doctrines and come back to the true God To the law and to the testimony; if they speak not according to this word, it is because thereis no light in them Isaiah 8:20 Lastly remember the parable of the sower? There will be seeds sown on different soils but only what is sown on good ground will bear fruits. Jesus is coming soming soon and every eye will see him..then all will know who was right or wrong
Seventh Day Adventism makes fun of God and says that he must do an 'Investigative Judgment' to determine those who are saved. The true and living God is omniscient. He already knew those who would be saved before he created the world. Eph. 1:4 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: ****** The gospel is located in I Cor. 15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Jesus said to go into all the world and preach the gospel. The SDA church does not obey God's command. Jesus never said to hold prophecy seminars or preach the fourth commandment. What did Jesus Christ preach? Mark 1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. What did the apostle Paul preach? 20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house, 21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
I have been sealed by God. I have the Holy Spirit living inside of me. 2Cr 1:22 - Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts. Eph 1:13 - In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise. Eph 4:30 - And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. ***** The SDA have a different seal. "The Sabbath is the great test question. It is the line of demarkation between the loyal and true and the disloyal and transgressor. ... It is the seal of the living God." "Thus the distinction is drawn between the loyal and the disloyal. Those who desire to have the seal of God in their foreheads must keep the Sabbath of the fourth commandment. Thus they are distinguished from the disloyal, who have accepted a manmade institution in place of the true Sabbath. The observance of God's rest day is a mark of distinction between him that serveth God and him that serveth Him not." 5. Ellen White, Selected Messages Book 3, p. 423. 6. Ellen White, Review & Herald, April 23, 1901. Mrs. White also wrote the following: "The sign, or seal, of God is revealed in the observance of the seventh-day Sabbath, the Lord's memorial of creation" (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 8, p. 117). Also: "...Too late they see that the Sabbath of the fourth commandment is the seal of the living God" (The Great Controversy, p. 640). ******* What do we know about those who are sealed? The book of Revelation does not give us many details about what the seal of God is, and it only gives us a few clues about those who are sealed: They are "servants of our God" (Rev. 7:3) They are 144,000 in number (Rev. 7:4) They are from the twelve tribes of Israel (Rev. 7:4) They have the "Father's name written in their foreheads" (Rev. 14:1; in ancient seals, the king's name was usually found on the seal.) They "were redeemed from the earth" (Rev. 14:3) They "are virgins" (Rev. 14:4) They "follow the Lamb" (Rev. 14:4) Their speech is pure (Rev. 14:5) They are "without fault" (Rev. 14:5) Please note: There is nothing in the description of the 144,000 about Sabbath-keeping. If Sabbath-keeping is indeed the most important and prominent sign that separates true Christians from false ones, then why didn't John at least mention it here in the section of Revelation that is describing those with the Seal of God? www.nonsda.org/study7.shtml
Revelation 1:1-3 One of the signs of a cult is that they focus on the end times. They don't preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. I Cor. 15:1-4 They don't care about the souls of men. They scare people about all manner of things. Let's have a prophecy seminar. Let's talk about the mark of the beast. Lets talk about how persecuted we are. Let's tell people that God will destroy Sunday-keeping Christians with fire. (The Bible teaches that everyone is a soul. Your soul is eternal. You will spend eternity in heaven or hell as Jesus Christ taught.) Let's talk about the National Sunday Law. Let's talk about the book of Daniel and the book of Revelation. Jesus said to go into all the world and preach the gospel. There is one common denominator about all Seventh Day Adventists. They don't read their Bibles. Sad, but true.
How can any Sunday keeping church denounce the SDA church, who keep the correct day of worship of the only creator God of all things ! While our sunday worshiping denominations keep the pagan day of the sun ? Apostate Christianity calling Gods remnant church False, is just like saying that Lucifer, is God ! Jesus, who made all things in this world, made the seventh day, a Holy day, because He blessed it and Sanctified it as a sign of a finished creation of both the world and human beings ! Thats why the seventh day is in the Exodus chapter 20; in the 4th commandment! Whereas Sunday, the first day of the week is not blessed in connection with the creation of humanity and this world ! Also to say that Sunday is the day of the resurrection of Jesus Christ! It is but the word Sabbath, means rest and our Lord Jesus, was not resting on Sunday ! Because Sabbath means rest ! Sunday is the day of His Resurrection and is NOT the holy day of rest ! Why does the majority of the Christian church don’t understand this Bible fact ! Sunday, is not in the Holy Law of God ! But the Seventh day Sabbath is ! James says in his epistle “ If you break one of the Law of God, you break all of them ! There is not one Scripture text to show that Sunday, is from God, but it came from the false god of this world, which is Lucifer ! The day of the sun ( sunday, is the day of Baal) and Lucifer, got the jews to reject Jesus when he came the first time and the same Lucifer, has got the majority of the Christian world, to reject the Holy Law of God, before the second coming of the same Jesus Christ ! Sunday, one day soon will be the ‘ Mark of the Beast’ , because the Beast of Daniel and The Revelation, clearly show the Beast is Roman Catholicism, who changed the Holy Sabbath of God, the seventh day, for the Pagan false day Sunday, Daniel chapter 7; clearly shows that this Anti-Christ power would change God’s Holy sabbath day’ he shall change times and Law’ ! What part of the 10 Commandment, its the 4th one that Bible prophecy said that apostate Christianity would do at the time of Daniel the prophet! So how can anyone say that the SDA church has a false Gospel? The brothers and sisters who keep this pagan day called Sunday, are keeping the wrong day and a result of this have a false gospel! Follow the Commandment of God and not from men ! Jesus, said the same things to the apostate Jewish religious leaders in His day ! History repeats here ! Lord have mercy on spiritual Babylon and her daughters ! Who hold on to unscriptural doctrines ! Revelation 18; says come out of her my people !
How can any church teach the blasphemy of the 'Investigative Judgment?' The atonement was completed at the cross. "Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. "It is finished." The debt has been paid. I have been made perfect. I already have eternal life. Hebrews 10:14 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. The SDA Church teaches that the Atonement is not finished until the Investigative Judgment is completed just prior to the second coming of Jesus. The Bible teaches the Atonement was finished when Jesus died on the Cross: Jesus said, "It is finished." (John 19:30) But this man [Jesus], after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. (Heb. 10:12-14) The Bible teaches that Christ's atonement on the cross has perfected (past tense) His children. Christians are not made perfect during the Investigative Judgment period. If we are "in Christ," then we were made perfect 2,000 years ago through Christ's perfect sacrifice on Calvary. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (Rom. 8:1) Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. (Rom. 5:9) ************* Eternal life begins at conversion - Adventists teach that no one should say they are "saved" because our salvation will not be certain until we pass through the Investigative Judgment. The Bible teaches that whoever accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior has (present tense) eternal life: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. (John 5:24) We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not [his] brother abideth in death. (1 John 3:14) ******** Cases of the Righteous have already been decided! The SDA Church teaches that "all" must pass through the Investigative Judgment to determine whether or not they will be saved.3 Seventh-day Adventists claim the Investigative Judgment started in 1844, but the Bible clearly shows that the cases of the righteous have already been decided long prior to the Investigative Judgment: Thief on the cross: Jesus declared to the thief on the cross, "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise." (Luke 22:43). How could Jesus make a determination on the case of the thief prior to the Investigative Judgment? The thief's case was determined some 1800 years before the "Investigative Judgment" when he repented and accepted Jesus on the cross. This proves that Christ needs no Investigative Judgment to determine who will be with Him in paradise. Why would He treat us any differently than He treated the thief on the cross? Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: The Bible says Abraham was justified (accounted righteous) by faith (Rom. 4:2-5). Nearly 1800 years before the Investigative Judgment supposedly began Jesus declared: And I say unto you, that many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. (Matt. 8:11) Jesus did not need an Investigative Judgment to determine the cases of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, so why does He need one to determine our destiny? Enoch: SDAs claim that Enoch was taken to heaven (Gen. 5:24). How did God know Enoch could be taken to heaven without an investigation? Moses: SDAs claim that after Moses sinned and died he was resurrected and taken to heaven (Jude 9). If everyone's sins are not blotted out until after the investigative judgment, then how could Moses enter heaven? Elijah: The Bible says that "Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven" (1 Kings 2:11). How could God take Elijah before the Investigative Judgement was completed? nonsda.org/study4.shtml
Lord have mercy on those who do not read their Bibles, especially men, who are to be spiritual leaders in their homes. Why would any church follow the teachings of a known false prophetess? Grown men following a woman. For shame. I Corinthians 14 34 Women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the church.… Sunday is the Lord's Day! God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Leviticus 23 and Acts 2 *************** Sunday is not the Mark of the Beast. Please read your Bible. The New Testament never describes the Sabbath as the one great issue that will divide the true believers from the false believers. If the Sabbath was indeed such a profound issue, such a "life-or-death" matter of eternal consequence, then why did Jesus and the Apostles say nothing of its importance? Paul told Christians not to judge each other regarding the keeping of the Sabbath (Col. 2:16) or any other day they decide to keep holy: One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. (Rom. 14:5) In the book of Romans, Paul encouraged Christians to uphold the law (Rom. 3:31), but he did not over-emphasize the importance of the Sabbath. Why not? Was it because God wanted us to figure out the most profound issue in Christianity on our own, without any help or guidance from His Word? Or was it because the writers of the Bible were uninspired and had no idea this would become an issue at the end of time? Of course not! It is absurd to think that such a critical decision--a decision upon which hinges the eternal destination of the Christian believer--would be met with silence by Paul and other New Testament authors. Every student knows that when a teacher has an important point to make to his students, he reiterates that point over and over again. Jesus and the Apostles were the greatest teachers this world has ever seen. The points they repeatedly emphasized were: Love Grace Forgiveness Mercy Doing good to others Faith Salvation Return of Christ Dangers of legalism These subjects are repeated over and over again in the New Testament. What about the necessity of keeping Sabbath as a holy day? Oddly enough, it is never mentioned in the New Testament, not even once. And yet are we to believe this is the single-most important issue that is supposed to decide the fate of humanity? nonsda.org/study8.shtml
@@jlewis8145 The repentant thief on the cross was saved by Jesus, before they both died on their own crosses ! When the Lord Jesus, was Baptised by John the Baptist in the Jordan, Jesus, said “ it is fitting to fulfil all righteousness “ ! Our Lord Jesus did not need to be Baptised, because He was without sin ! But that repentant thief who said to the Lord Jesus, ‘remember me when you come in to your kingdom’; Jesus Baptism was both Imputed / imparted to that thief and this is how the thief was saved to enter the kingdom of God in heaven ! Through the life of Jesus, in living the Gospel in human nature ! And imputing and imparted to every human being that accepts the Lord Jesus Christ
Revelation 12:22 he comes with his reward eternal life, there's no time for judgement he already knows who is fit for the kingdom. Judgement is for the sinners after a millennium in heaven Read Revelation 20 properly
@@nicetry620 Not true. This is the SDA Church. Revelation 12:1 “And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:” King James Version (KJV)
@@L-Noble.YT_Hi.Res-Soundmindsit’s you who have been fooled by the devil, using one of his minion, Ellen G White EGW prophesied the return of the Lord Jesus Christ in 1844 proved that White is a FALSE prophet, and SDA church is a FALSE church.
John 10:32 “Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.” I’m not SDA, but EGW wrote more than 5,000 periodical articles and 40 books. As of 2019 more than 200 White titles are available in English, including compilations from her 100,000 pages of manuscript published. Translated into more than 165 languages. Opened up numerous hospitals (sanitariums) with over 651 today as part of her legacy. Opened up numerous schools with over 8,800 as part of her legacy. 60 publishing houses. 22 food industries. Millions of people, including me, coming to a closer understanding, Faith, the breath of my sinfulness, and relationship with God! SDA are just over 1% of the Christian Church but are In over 200 countries? Can God not protect his Truth? Which of those good works do you call SDAs and EGW Satan? This is the way!
4 - 8 - 24 You have nothing better to do than to be braggadocios about EGW while simultaneously saying you are NOT an SDA Why not ? We all know you are STOP your LIES by BREAKING the VERY LAW you claim to keep Holy and HALLOW.... The Bible has been translated in over 3 , 300 languages in 165 countries You mentioned sanitariums "" I have since thought that many inmates of INSANE ASYLUMS were brought there by experiences SIMILAR to MY OWN......"" ( Ellen G White Mind , Character and personality Vol 2 , p.454 )
4 - 8 - 24 You mentioned SATAN Would that be the SAME SATAN? For SDA and LDS ? LDS : SATAN the father of LIES the Devil is the Spirit brother of Jesus SAME AS......... SDA : SATAN the father of LIES the Devil is the SDA HERO SCAPEGOAT of Adventism
If the atonement was completed at the cross, why do we read in Hebrews chapter 9 about Jesus entering into the tabernacle in Heaven (v 11,12) taking His own blood, and by doing so He obtained eternal redemption?
The atonement was completed at the cross. "Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. "It is finished." The debt has been paid. I have been made perfect. I already have eternal life. Hebrews 10:14 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. The SDA Church teaches that the Atonement is not finished until the Investigative Judgment is completed just prior to the second coming of Jesus. The Bible teaches the Atonement was finished when Jesus died on the Cross: Jesus said, "It is finished." (John 19:30) But this man [Jesus], after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. (Heb. 10:12-14) The Bible teaches that Christ's atonement on the cross has perfected (past tense) His children. Christians are not made perfect during the Investigative Judgment period. If we are "in Christ," then we were made perfect 2,000 years ago through Christ's perfect sacrifice on Calvary. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (Rom. 8:1) Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. (Rom. 5:9) *************** Eternal life begins at conversion - Adventists teach that no one should say they are "saved" because our salvation will not be certain until we pass through the Investigative Judgment. The Bible teaches that whoever accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior has (present tense) eternal life: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. (John 5:24) We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not [his] brother abideth in death. (1 John 3:14) ********** Cases of the Righteous have already been decided! The SDA Church teaches that "all" must pass through the Investigative Judgment to determine whether or not they will be saved.3 Seventh-day Adventists claim the Investigative Judgment started in 1844, but the Bible clearly shows that the cases of the righteous have already been decided long prior to the Investigative Judgment: Thief on the cross: Jesus declared to the thief on the cross, "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise." (Luke 22:43). How could Jesus make a determination on the case of the thief prior to the Investigative Judgment? The thief's case was determined some 1800 years before the "Investigative Judgment" when he repented and accepted Jesus on the cross. This proves that Christ needs no Investigative Judgment to determine who will be with Him in paradise. Why would He treat us any differently than He treated the thief on the cross? Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: The Bible says Abraham was justified (accounted righteous) by faith (Rom. 4:2-5). Nearly 1800 years before the Investigative Judgment supposedly began Jesus declared: And I say unto you, that many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. (Matt. 8:11) Jesus did not need an Investigative Judgment to determine the cases of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, so why does He need one to determine our destiny? Enoch: SDAs claim that Enoch was taken to heaven (Gen. 5:24). How did God know Enoch could be taken to heaven without an investigation? Moses: SDAs claim that after Moses sinned and died he was resurrected and taken to heaven (Jude 9). If everyone's sins are not blotted out until after the investigative judgment, then how could Moses enter heaven? Elijah: The Bible says that "Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven" (1 Kings 2:11). How could God take Elijah before the Investigative Judgement was completed? nonsda.org/study4.shtml
The Atonement was complete, but Christ is not only our passover sacrificed for us, but he is also our High Priest in heaven who has the work of blotting out our record of sin after the books have been opened and the work of judgment commenced. He comes back for his people with all of his holy angles as KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
@@larrybedouin2921 My sins have been blotted out. The Bible teaches that our sins are blotted out when we repent: I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee. (Isaiah 44:22) Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. (Acts 3:19) and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. (1 John 1:7) ************* I have been made perfect. Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Atonement completed at the Cross - The SDA Church teaches that the Atonement is not finished until the Investigative Judgment is completed just prior to the second coming of Jesus. The Bible teaches the Atonement was finished when Jesus died on the Cross: Jesus said, "It is finished." (John 19:30) But this man [Jesus], after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. (Heb. 10:12-14) The Bible teaches that Christ's atonement on the cross has perfected (past tense) His children. Christians are not made perfect during the Investigative Judgment period. If we are "in Christ," then we were made perfect 2,000 years ago through Christ's perfect sacrifice on Calvary. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (Rom. 8:1) Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. (Rom. 5:9) ******** I already have eternal life. Eternal life begins at conversion - Adventists teach that no one should say they are "saved" because our salvation will not be certain until we pass through the Investigative Judgment. The Bible teaches that whoever accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior has (present tense) eternal life: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. (John 5:24) I John 5:13 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
@@larrybedouin2921 our record of sin , because He died for them, is blotted out every time we ask for forgiveness, His blood covers for them and our slate is cleaned. He is in the Heavenly Sanctuary, Most Holy Place , at His Father right hand , interceding for the new sins we are committing and that He has forgiven and blotted them out already, once and for all at the cross.✝️📖🙏❤️
@@larrybedouin2921 It is finished!!!!once and for all!! That is why we , His repentant believers can say that we are saved, He covers us with His Righteousness!✝️📖✝️❤️🙏
SDA: don’t worry about the Sabbath! Just accept Jesus as yur Savior!! Luke 6:1-11. and Mark 2:27 JESUS HAS THE AUTHORITY TO OVERRULE “LAWS” CONCERNING THE “SABBATH “.
@@nicetry620 2023 *There is not one commandment from Christ or his apostles to keep the Sabbath of the Jews.* Count the number of times the scripture and Christ *commands us* to love one another by *commandment* ! *NOT ONCE DOES CHRIST OR ANY OF THE APOSTLES COMMAND SABBATH KEEPING.* And, while the scripture is explicit for the commandment of Christ to love the Church, the WORK of Adventism is to *persecute and hatemonger the very Church and brethren Christ is commanding you to love* ! Here's your *"Test commandment"* , not Sabbath keeping like the Pharisees but to love and obey Christ's commandments to the Church! John 13:34 *A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.* John 13:35 By THIS (SIGN) *shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.* John 15:12 *This is MY commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.* John 15:17 These things *I command you, that ye love one another.* Romans 12:10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, *but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath FULFILLED the law.* Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, *but by love serve one another.* Ephesians 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, *forbearing one another in love;* 1 Thessalonians 3:12 And the Lord make you to increase and *abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:* 1 Thessalonians 4:9 But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for *ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.* Hebrews 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 1 Peter 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto *unfeigned love of the brethren, *see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:* 1 Peter 3:8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, *having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:* 1 John 3:11 *For THIS IS THE MESSAGE hat ye heard from the beginning, *that we should love one another.* 1 John 3:23 *And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave US COMMANDMENT.* 1 John 4:7 Beloved, let US love one another: for love is of God; and *every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.* (NOT SABBATH KEEPING) 1 John 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved US, *we ought also to love one another.* 1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. *If we love one another, God dwelleth in US, and his love is perfected in us.* 2 John 1:5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though* I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.* > I DOUBT ONE OF YOU WILL OBEY *"HIS COMMANDMENTS"* TO LOVE THE CHURCH AND THE BRETHREN. Because, the Sabbath keepers have taught you to hate the Brethren and the Church. Christ commandment is that you love the church and the brother in at the church! And he that does not keep that commandment is a liar and the truth is not in him. Christ commanded all Christians to obey the church and to hear with the church teachers not pick up the Bible and make your own beliefs as the Adventist and thousands of other churches have done. And therefore the Adventist despise persecute and hate the church in defiance of Christ commandment! *Ellen G. White and the Adventists have taught their followers to persecute and hate the Church Christ instituted, not LOVE IT AND THE BRETHREN*
@@nicetry620 Oh that Adventists would learn to be honest and truthful. Even now, the Holy Spirit begs you. What great peace would come upon them. I’m so sorry that you all forbid the Lord in their lives and put away their deceit Ps. 51: 6 *Behold, thou desirest truth in the INWARD parts:* and in the HIDDEN part thou shalt make me to know wisdom. Psalm 15: 1 Lord, who will dwell in your tabernacle? Who will dwell on your holy mountain? 2 He who walks in *INTEGRITY,* and works righteousness, and *speaks the TRUTH in his heart.* 3 Whoever does not SLANDER with his tongue, nor DOES his neighbor WRONG, nor takes SHAME on his neighbor. Unfortunately, there is no member of the Sabbath-keeping Adventist Church or of its dissident groups *who walks in righteousness, does justice, speaks the TRUTH from the heart, does not SLANDER with their tongue, DOESN'T WRONG HIS NEIGHBOR or reproach against his neighbour!* Every word of the Adventist teaching about Sunday is a outrageous lie and false testimony against BILLIONS of Christians throughout history. Psalm 32: 1How blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, Whose sin is covered! 2How blessed is the man to whom the LORD does not impute iniquity, And in whose spirit there is no deceit! 5I acknowledged my sin to You, And my iniquity I did not hide; I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the LORD”; And You forgave the guilt of my sin.Selah. 6Therefore, let everyone who is godly pray to You in a time when You may be found; Surely in a flood of great waters they will not reach him.
@@underhiswings3244 Impossible for them to do that, only by faith in Christ and by the grace of God will we be able to make it. The SDA is like the 5 foolish virgins, they did hear the sound, but aren't able to locate the bell.
@@nonconformist4802 There are no Bibles in hell.... yet another tribute to the Biblically unaware critic of the SDA Church.... Rather than, hate and spite, try Loving Obedience to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ! "Great Peace have they that Love Thy Law! " Psalms 119:165
@@loren719 _"There are no Bibles in hell."_ If you wasn't such an ignorant fool you would have understand the phrase, but because you don't, I will rephrase it just for you. You clowns claimed that your savior is Jesus Christ, RIGHT? No, you worship a glorified angel by the name of Michael if you can remember correctly. 2nd, you clowns rejected the gospel of Paul to followed a perverted version of angels. Last but not the least, you clowns openly rejected Sola Scriptura to create space for that witch EGW, So, you don't believe the Bible, you worship[ an angel called Michael and you reject the saving gospel of the Bible, *YOU ARE ONLY BLUFFING YOURSELF AND YOUR MOTHER, NO ONE ELSE* So you "law keeping" pharisee, your first attempt failed miserable with no peace for you at all, go ahead and try again.
Im a SABBATH KEEPER I believe in every scriptures in the Bible. I never dwell in ELLEN G WHITE BOOK OR EVEN BELIEVE IN HER DOCTRINE. She's just a human being and not an intercessor like she's been perceived by many SDA believer they rather search for correction in her book then seek the holy spirit for answers.
@@nicetry620 ""Test the spirits because "MANY" false prophets have gone out into the world"...." Conversely, there can be true prophets, like Ellen White. "Because last I checked she has EQUAL authority to scripture over the sda church...." That's ridiculous. She is an authoritative source, but no Adventist believes she is above the Bible. Only gossipers spread such nonsense.
You can't wait to die for keeping the Sabbath? Part of being in a cult is that they have a persecution complex. "Nobody likes us, not even Christians." Also, cults always focus on the end-times, rather than preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ as he commanded us to. God is going to destroy with fire all those Sunday-keeping Christians. Scary, eh? Eventually Sunday laws will be passed requiring a death sentence for anyone who refuses to worship on Sunday. More scary! Ellen White explains: As the Sabbath has become the special point of controversy throughout Christendom, and religious and secular authorities have combined to enforce the observance of the Sunday, the persistent refusal of a small minority to yield to the popular demand will make them objects of universal execration. ...a decree will finally be issued against those who hallow the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, denouncing them as deserving of the severest punishment and giving the people liberty, after a certain time, to put them to death. Romanism in the Old World and apostate Protestantism in the New will pursue a similar course toward those who honor all the divine precepts. After this death decree has been passed by the evil Catholics and wicked Protestants, Jesus will return to save the holy Seventh-day Adventists. Then, He will execute the judgment described in Revelation 14:10-11 by sending fire to destroy all Sunday-keeping Christians. 12. Ellen White, The Great Controversy (1911), pp. 615-616. ********** Ellen White taught that Seventh Day Adventists could never be saved. You will be damned forever. The door to heaven was shut back in October 1844. Don't you remember? The Advent Herald for December 11, 1844. It was later reprinted in The Advent Review Special of September, 1850. "We have done our work in warning sinners, and in trying to awake a formal church. God in his providence has SHUT THE DOOR; we can only stir one another up to be patient; and be diligent to make our calling and election sure." "The fall of Babylon commenced in the spring of '43 when the churches all around, began to fall into a cold state, and was complete on the 7th month '44, when the last faint ray of hope was taken up from a wicked world church." The Day-Star, September 20, 1845, p. 26. "From the ascension, to the shutting of the door, Oct., 1844, Jesus stood with widespread arms of love, and mercy; ready to receive and plead the cause of every sinner, who would come to God by him." A Word to the Little Flock, 1847, p.2. ******* "After the passing of the time of expectation, in 1844, Adventists still believed the Saviour's coming to be very near; they held that they had reached an important crisis, and that the work of Christ as man's intercessor before God, had ceased. Having given the warning of the judgment [sic] near, they felt their work for the world was done, and they lost their burden of soul for the salvation of sinners, while the bold and blasphemous scoffing of the ungodly seemed to them another evidence that the Spirit of God had been withdrawn from the rejecters of his mercy. All this confirmed them in the belief that probation had ended, or, as they then expressed it, 'the door of mercy was shut.'" Spirit of Prophecy, Vol 4, p. 268. www.nonegw.org/egw27.shtml
@@jlewis8145The Adventists and SDA church still stuck in the Middle ages beliefs. So sad for those Adventists that were fooled by EGW dogmas. Hundreds of them, and the sad part is, some of them have a PhD degrees.
@@bokelvin165 Highly educated people can be very deceived. That is especially true of Latter day Saints. The LDS president himself was a heart surgeon. Such a sad story.
SDA, SHOULD I BELIVE E.G. WHITRE OR THE BIBLE? There is much in the writings of E.G. White that is unbiblical. Examples: 1. Was the plan of salvation made before or after the fall? E.G. White says AFTER the fall (Great Controversy, p.347) The Bible says BEFORE (Ephesians 1:4:; 1 Peter 1:18) Should I believe EGW or the Bible? 2. Was Adam deceived by Satan? E.G. White says YES (Evangelism, p. 598) The Bible says NOPE (1 Timothy 2:14) Should I believe EGW or the Bible? 3. Did pre-flood human beings mate with animals to produce amalgamated creatures? E.G. White says YES (Spiritual Gifts Vol. 3,p 64 ) The Bible says NOPE (Genesis 1:24-25- Nowhere in the Bible is it indicated there was amalgamation of human beings and animals before the flood) Should I believe EGW or the Bible? 4. Was the tower of Babel built before or after the flood? E.G. White says BEFORE (Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 119) The Bible says AFTER (Genesis 11:4) Should I believe EGW or the Bible? 4. Who bears human's sins? E.G. White says SATAN (The Great Controversy, p. 422, 485-486) The Bible says JESUS (1 Peter 2:24) Should I believe EGW or the Bible? I have read so much of what EGW wrote and what others in the church and outside have written about her writings. She calls her writings "little light" that lead people to "greater light", the Bible. The truth is her writings are leading me away from the Bible. Should I believe the Bible or clear heresies of E.G. White?
The only thing against them is like the Jehovah Witnesses to say Gods too loving to throw his creatures in hell , i have a surprise to all the people The Holy Spirit taught me the Bible and while i am Dutch Reform , The Adventist Church are more advanced than all the churches , let me correct you mister Concerning the Sabbath God did not change it so they right , you are mis informed by speaking against them
Whether people are wrong or right , the Lord points out , all the Churches are wrong , they all need to be corrected , if the witnesses believe the correct Sabbath they go and teach there is no hell for humans, the same as the Adventist writings, any church that teaches love only , is wrong , God had a living hell and i saw the place believe me please , concerning what they thought Jesus was coming in their time, also okay with that , because he is coming only a little later , that time was beginning of the second coming , don't rubnit out of the books , the Holy Spirit speaks through wise men , how ever, know now the time is near because the signs are all here, don't worry what this preacher or that priest predicted know that the signs already has been given to the true prophets and the end is close , the angel in Revelation his message counting now , there can be time no longer. Let no man argue about the coming of the Lord Jesus , and let no man think in his mind , because people argue , i am free from them, you wake up and believe prophecy from Heaven , God said, my word will remain forever
4 - 8 - 24 LDS : Joseph Smith said Angels have GOLDEN PLATES SAME AS....... SDA : Ellen G White said Angels have GOLDEN CARDS ( Early writings 39 : 2 )
Which date? Christ 2nd coming to world failed? if Christ would have come to world, then there is a evident for all believers to confirm and verify, but Miller claim he entered holy place in heaven and for that no evident for mankind to verify. So don't bring deception and manipulating facts. He afraid to produce fact for verification.
@@vanankumar5733 You said: "Which date? Christ 2nd coming to world failed?.... " Answer: No... Christ Coming to His Temple: " ... and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly COME to His Temple, even the Messenger of the Covenant, whom ye delight in: " Malachi 3:1 The "Coming to His Temple" in Malachi is what the Prophet Daniel said would happen: " Unto 2,300 [days] then shall the Sanctuary (temple) be Cleansed." Dan. 8:14 Lev. 16 shows Aaron the high priest enter the Most Holy Place in the Temple to Cleanse it or make Atonement for Israel (Lev. 16:30)
@vanan kumar And people today claim such things. Wrong wasn't he. I don't see it as a major cult. Just a little mislead. This kind of spiritual expereince was more common on those day's. Mormonism another, off the fringes of the second awakening in the frontier, " holy roller" camps, and revivals. Any kind of hyper perfectionism also common. Should be rejected. I am not sure they all adhere to these old ideas now. I certainly don't adhere to special revelations, given to some in the past. Then the JW,s too. Can't hold to many of these ridiculous interpretations. Bou. People can get really bound and fixated. It's frustrating to me, when they stopped by. My opinion. Others may know better. This is Ankerbergs speciality. But I dont see him as beyond all dispute at times. Appreciate his investigations though.
SDA is not a church, please don't make a mistake. A church is a group of people filled with holy spirit and is always preaches not contrary to what bible says. SDA is a club. You will see them don't depends on holy spirit but teaching from schools that is why they doesn't understand the prophecy of the bible especially that of end times.
The reason why 1844 was a disappointment, William Miller instead of counting the two thousand, three days/years when the transgression of desolation (destruction of the temple in 70 AD).took place, he counted the 2,300 days/years from the time the vision was given to Daniel in 457 BC
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@williamwelch2352 They were investigated by the General church Council and were listed as a cult for their non biblical teachings. God judges individuals from all denominations who miss represent and deny His Son and the gospel.
@williamwelch2352 If falsehood cannot be judged by the theologians and by Bible truth then everybody can start blasphemy’s and get away with them as truths . The Bible tells us to correct the false preachers and name them so they won’t deceive the non knowledgeable people.
Not yet. That is a future event. So Christians go to heaven. This message must be given, but while it must be given, we should be careful not to thrust and crowd and condemn those who have not the light that we have. We should not go out of our way to make hard thrusts at the Catholics. Among the Catholics there are many who are most conscientious Christians, and who walk in all the light that shines upon them, and God will work in their behalf.-Testimonies for the Church 9:243. Those who are Christians love God and love others. No matter the denomination. No love no salvation.
In the age of globalization, it’s almost impossible to be a genuine Christian if one is an ordinary Christian. A true Christian has Christ’s spirit of universal love. A Christian who believes in the superiority of Christianity in a time of global integration prevents universal love, justice & peace from coming in. He will even quarrel with different Christian groups.
The only ones distorting fact IS SDA. Cherry picking and pulling verses out of context to string together new narratives that aren’t in scripture. The DEVIL twists scripture.
There isn't one SDA that will agree to a debate with me. I keep sabbath. SDAs break it weekly by not keeping it holy because you promote a false prophet, and false prophets are idols
@@chrislucastheprotestantview Oh, yes there is one. What would you like to debate Chris? Sounds like it might be the ministry of Ellen White. OK. Would you like to proceed?
@@owisoowis4465 Where does the Bible say that God is not omniscient and must do an 'Investigative Judgment' to determine those who are saved? Where does the Bible say that Jesus will return on April 23, 1843? Where does the Bible say that Jesus will return on March 21, 1844? Where does the Bible say that Jesus will return on October 22, 1844? Where does the Bible say that the 2300 days is actually years? Where does the Bible say that the 2300 days/years started in 457 BC? Where does the Bible say that the mark of the beast is keeping the Sabbath? Where does the Bible say that the door to heaven was shut on October 22, 1844 and that Seventh Day Adventists will not get into heaven? "From the ascension, to the shutting of the door, Oct., 1844, Jesus stood with widespread arms of love, and mercy; ready to receive and plead the cause of every sinner, who would come to God by him." A Word to the Little Flock, 1847, p.2. It is clear from this last quotation that the shutting of the door in October, 1844 meant that Jesus NO LONGER "stood with widespread arms of love, and mercy; ready to receive and plead the cause of every sinner..." That is what James White considered to be the meaning of "shut door." In an extensive article in The Present Truth, May 1850, he dealt in great detail with the subject, especially on the shut door. In that article he says, page 79: "From the best light we could then obtain from the autumnal types we were very confident that the days would end at the seventh month.... When we came up to that point of time, all our sympathy, burden and prayers for sinners ceased, and the unanimous feeling and testimony was, that our work for the world was finished for ever." www.nonegw.org/egw27.shtml
@@nicetry620 You said: "She took the writings of others DENIED doing it .... " Answer: Incorrect.... The 27 page Ramik Report (Legal Opinion) shows this: " Ramik points out several factors that critics of Ellen White's writings have failed to take into account when accusing her of literary theft or deceit: 1) Her selections "stayed well within the legal boundaries of 'fair use.'" 2) "Ellen White used the writings of others; but in the way she used them, she made them uniquely her own"--adapting the selections into her own literary framework 3) Ellen White urged her readers to get copies of some of the very books she made use of--demonstrating that she did not attempt to conceal the fact of her use of literary sources, and that she had no intention to defraud or supersede the works of any other author. THE RAMIK REPORT Memorandum of Law Literary Property Rights 1790 - 1915 August 14, 1981 LAW OFFICES DILLER, RAMIK & WIGHT, LTD. PATENT & TRADEMARK CAUSES So what you said was wrong - see: 3).... IF.... you took her to court over this- accusing her of plagiarism, you'd lose. Come to Jesus today and He will receive you with Open Arms!!
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Your gospel is false. God's word says so. What are the three angels messages? MESSAGE ONE Then I saw another angel flying directly overhead, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and language and people. 7 And he said with a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come, and worship him who made heaven and earth, the sea and the springs of water.” MESSAGE TWO 8 Another angel, a second, followed, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion[ of her sexual immorality.” MESSAGE THREE 9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” *************************************************** Now what does the SDA church say are the three angels messages. (By the way, is the date 1844 in the Bible somewhere?) MESSAGE ONE The first angel's message was proclaimed in 1843/1844 through those who were erroneously announcing the imminent return of Jesus. Ellen White, Seventh-day Adventism's prophet, wrote: Prophecy was fulfilled in the first and second angels' messages. They were given at the right time and accomplished the work which God designed to accomplish by them. MESSAGE TWO 2. The second angel's message is a call for Christians attending non-Adventist churches to leave those churches and join the one true remnant church--the Seventh-day Adventists. As Mrs. White noted above, SDAs believed this prophecy was fulfilled in 1844 when some Christians left their churches to unite with the Millerite movement: As the churches refused to receive the first angel's message, they rejected the light from heaven and fell from the favor of God. They trusted to their own strength, and by opposing the first message placed themselves where they could not see the light of the second angel's message. But the beloved of God, who were oppressed, accepted the message, "Babylon is fallen," and left the churches. When the churches spurned the counsel of God by rejecting the advent message, the Lord rejected them. The first angel was followed by a second, proclaiming, "Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication." Revelation 14:8. This message was understood by Adventists to be an announcement of the moral fall of the churches in consequence of their rejection of the first message. The proclamation, "Babylon is fallen," was given in the summer of 1844, and as the result, about fifty thousand withdrew from these churches. God has rejected the church that I attend. I will be destroyed. Scary, eh? THIRD MESSAGE 3. The third angel's message is a warning against receiving the Mark of the Beast, which is said to be worship on Sunday. According to the SDA end-time scenario, the last great battle between good and evil will be fought over the day of worship. Those who keep the Seventh-day Sabbath will receive the Seal of God, while those who keep Sunday receive the Mark of the Beast. According to SDA teachings, all the world will unite under the leadership of Satan to impose Sunday laws upon Seventh-day Adventists. As this frightening scenario unfolds, eventually Sunday laws will be passed requiring a death sentence for anyone who refuses to worship on Sunday. Ellen White explains: As the Sabbath has become the special point of controversy throughout Christendom, and religious and secular authorities have combined to enforce the observance of the Sunday, the persistent refusal of a small minority to yield to the popular demand will make them objects of universal execration. ...a decree will finally be issued against those who hallow the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, denouncing them as deserving of the severest punishment and giving the people liberty, after a certain time, to put them to death. Romanism in the Old World and apostate Protestantism in the New will pursue a similar course toward those who honor all the divine precepts. After this death decree has been passed by the evil Catholics and wicked Protestants, Jesus will return to save the holy Seventh-day Adventists. Then, He will execute the judgment described in Revelation 14:10-11 by sending fire to destroy all Sunday-keeping Christians. God is going to send fire to destroy everyone who worships on Sunday. Scary, eh?
@partlysimpson5154 I agree. The problem is everybody wants a theology where you throw the law out and still be saved. We don't keep the law in order to be saved. We keep the law because we have been saved.
Yes I noticed my comment is old, I do see now that we can walk in rightousness, but its trough faith its the power of grace really, we can walk in holiness, old is gone new is put on, but we can stumble at times, but it really is about faith, I also notice we can be less sin concious co awe know our identity in christ , my English is bad sorry @@DavesHangar1958
You people don't understand prophecies book of Daniel and revelation on SDA CHURCH keep the ten commandments including the Sabbath God gives them wisdom to explain prophecies so if you people want to understand prophecies come to SDA church and Sunday is the mark ‼️ of the beast
Please read your Bible and learn the truth. John 10 27 My sheep listen to My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give them eternal life, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
.Christ entered the Most Holy Place at His Ascension, not in 1844 - By comparing the Biblical evidence found in the Old Testament description of the Day of Atonement (Lev. 16) with the New Testament description of the Day of Atonement (Heb. 9) we can determine exactly when the Day of Atonement happened. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us. (Heb. 9:24) Where in the sanctuary does the Bible teach that the "presence of God" exists? And the LORD said unto Moses, Speak unto Aaron thy brother, that he come not at all times into the holy place within the veil before the mercy seat, which is upon the ark; that he die not: for I will appear in the cloud upon the mercy seat. (Lev. 16:2) The place of the Lord's presence in the Old Testament tabernacle was upon the mercy seat in the Most Holy Place. In order for Christ to have entered into the "presence of God" He must have entered into the Most Holy Place to appear before the mercy seat of God. This is further validated by the fact that the authors of the New Testament repeatedly refer to Jesus as sitting or standing on the right hand of God. Never once is He ever pictured in a separate room from God. Notice what Mark, Luke, Stephen, Paul, the author of Hebrews, and Peter say: So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. (Mark 16:19) Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God. (Luke 22:69) But he [Stephen], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. (Acts 7:55-56) Who [is] he that condemneth? [It is] Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. (Rom. 8:34) Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set [him] at his own right hand in the heavenly [places]. (Eph. 1:20) If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. (Col. 3:1) Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high. (Heb. 1:3) Now of the things which we have spoken [this is] the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens. (Heb. 8:1) But this man {Christ}, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God. (Hebrews 10:12) Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of [our] faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. (Heb. 12:2) [Jesus] Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. (1 Pet. 3:22) 2. Jesus Opened the Door to the Most Holy Place at His ascension - Adventists teach that Jesus opened the door to the Most Holy Place in 1844, but the Bible teaches differently: Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us... (Heb. 10:19,20) Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. (Heb. 4:15) Jesus, by His sacrificial death, opened the way for us to enter into the Most Holy Place so that we could bring our petitions directly to the "throne of grace." The "throne of grace" could be nothing other than the Mercy Seat in the Most Holy Place where the "presence of God" abides. The way into the Most Holy Place has been opened since Christ's ascension. Prior to 1844, how could sinful humans have had access to the Holiest if Christ Himself was not ministering there? And how could first century Christians, to whom the book of Hebrews was addressed, approach the throne of grace in the Holiest if the door into the Holiest was not even opened until 1844? nonsda.org/study5.shtml
Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. SDA teach mostly what Methodism and Baptist and Lutherans teach. Not a problem. So why do you say these three denominations teach lies? According to you. Since we mostly agree.
Troll account ⚠️👆👆👆 Cannot comprehend simple DEFINITIONS and is completely clueless about the SDA statements of beliefs.... Dose not answer with relevant answers and uses wikipedia for answers rather then going straight to the source.
Give a question. Not just insults. God is love. @@nicetry620 We teach Five Solas Sola Scriptura, Scripture alone. Sola Fide Faith Alone Sola Gratian by Grace alone Solo Christ. Christ alone. Soli Deo Glory to GOD alone. GRACE G - God's R - Riches A - At C - Christ's E - Expense Love GOD love others follow Jesus. But not just Grace. But the five pillars of Protestantism. One being saved by Grace alone.
@@samuelwilliams1559 Stop the nonsense troll, we've already been through these tactics.... The troll account SAMUEL WILLIAMS 👆👆👆 can't have a discussion based on the TOPIC of the video... Ellen G White is a TOPIC that they cant defend so these troll accounts always attempt these tactics of leaving random comments completely irrelevant to the topic
You keep saying the same things over and over. 8 days ago @joel villarreal So why have you not changed what they said? So sorry that you are not spreading the Gospel. But not just Grace. But the five pillars of Protestantism. One being saved by Grace alone. Samuel Williams Love GOD love others follow Jesus.
@@samuelwilliams1559 Why don't you learn to address what we we're debate on the other comment section before you try you're deflecting tactics and avoid dealing with you're constant contradictions
The SDA is leading great rebellion against the *Apostolic Decree of Acts 15:22-29*
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You don't understand ,and know the scriptures. When you read Daniel 7:9-13,Christ, comes to the Father. Hosea 5;6,7, Christ withdraw himself from where? From the holy place to the Most holy place. The sanctuary had two apartments ,the holy and the Most holy places. Christ,being the High Priest,after the order of Melchizedek,is performing his duties,before the Father, in the Sanctuary above.
You don't understand ,and know the scriptures. When you read Daniel 7:9-13,Christ, comes to the Father. Hosea 5;6,7, Christ withdraw himself from where? From the holy place to the Most holy place. The sanctuary had two apartments ,the holy and the Most holy places. Christ,being the High Priest,after the order of Melchizedek,is performing his duties,before the Father, in the Sanctuary above.
@shadrachhabeenzu9575
9 - 3 - 24
LDS : Joseph Smith said Angels have GOLDEN PLATES
SAME AS........
SDA : Ellen G White said Angels have GOLDEN CARDS
( Early writings 39 : 2 )
Using the Bible ONLY
Using the Bible FIRST
As Adventists claim to do
WHERE in the KJV Bible 1611,or in the Hebrew , Aramaic or GREEK of the text do Angels have
GOLDEN PLATES GOLDEN CARDS just because Ellen G White and her contemporary Joseph Smith said so
( Chapter and verse please )
If you don't mind
Thank you in advance
On the Sabbath
"" My Father WORKETH hitherto and I WORK........""
John 5 : 16
On the Sabbath
"" For this reason the
( Sabbath keepers ) tried all the more to take his life, because he NOT ONLY BROKE the Sabbath but he also called God his own Father, making himself EQUAL with GOD"
John 5 : 18
LDS : Joseph Smith was ALSO a SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy
SAME AS.........
SDA : Ellen G White was ALSO a SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy
LDS : The father of LIES the devil is the Spirit brother of Jesus Christ
SAME AS.........
SDA : The father of LIES the devil is the SDA HERO SCAPEGOAT of Adventism
LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT
SAME AS.........
SDA : Are your sins blotted out ?
SIMPLE Yes.....or......no
BIBLICAL GOSPEL
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
We have missionaries that go out and have gone out to preach the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Ellen Gould Harmon White was the first to say that the fourth commandment says that the seventh day is the sabbath like the fourth commandment has said ever since they were expressly given to Moses on Mr Sinai written with the hand of God the BOSSMAN upstairs in and from heaven! Read them and wrap! Obey obey obey!
Daniel 8 is not even about a denomination and verse 14 is not even about a "heavenly sanctuary". No regard of context of this prophecy. Perversion of scripture by EGW
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. ...for if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. (Gal. 2:16,21)
The works of the Law is the works of the SACRIFICIAL LAW which was nailed to the cross.
Not the 10 Commandments Law.
@@rajdialnandram5676 Everything was nailed to the cross. God doesn't separate them like we do.
God requires perfection to get into heaven. You need the righteousness of God.
Have you kept the ten commandments perfectly?
Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect.
@@rajdialnandram5676 everything is used together in Colossians to show the offerings, days , holidays are the law of Moses the important thing to know is the New and better covenant in Christ Had planned in Jeremiah 31:31 Romans chapter 8:2 tells us that new law replaced the first which didn't need to happen had it been able to accomplish God's objective!!!; Therefore we must discover all that's new and better able to help like God wants
@@rajdialnandram5676 please identify what new things Jesus Christ gave the disciples Moses couldn't
@billweir8824 Grace,love and faith,righteousness and eternallife,you will never find these in old testament, Jesus gave his church(both Jews and Gentiles who were elected according to his own will)the revealed word of God,Moses gave (only Israel) laws which were not perfect,laws which came to multiply sin like your ten commandments,there was no forgiveness of sins in the old testament but the shadow of Christ who forgives,there was no faith,no grace,no righteousness,no Highpriest,no holy spirit,no word,no obedience BUT THE SHADOW/ALLEGORY OF CHRIST For example Job was never righteous though the bible says he was because no one can be righteous without the blood of Jesus which washes away sin,there's no righteousness without the blood of Christ so Job was a typology of Christ who's righteous,Job prophesied about Christ,same applies to Abraham etc
If its once saved always saved, then why do we still need to confess our sins?
It's called sanctification. A lifelong process.
Everyone sins daily. That is why we need to repent.
Our current state is that we are sinners.
In order to get into heaven, you need to be perfect. You need the righteousness of God. Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect.
The moment someone repents of their sins and puts their faith alone in what Christ has already done for them on the cross, God forgives them of their sins and grants them the free gift of eternal life. They are clothed with the righteousness of God and God now sees them as perfect and they are allowed into heaven. Their status before God is perfected.
It's called justification. A one time event.
2 Corinthians 5:21
21 God made Christ who knew no sin to be [j]sin in our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
Hebrews 10:14
For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.
Isaiah 61:10
I will rejoice greatly in the Lord,
My soul will be joyful in my God;
For He has clothed me with garments of salvation,
He has wrapped me with a robe of righteousness,
As a groom puts on a turban,
And as a bride adorns herself with her jewels.
John 10:27-29
My sheep listen to My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;
28 and I give them eternal life, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
God will help you endure to the end.
Philippians 1:6
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work among you will complete it by the day of Christ Jesus.
Jude 1
24 Now to Him who is able to protect you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory, blameless with great joy,
25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority before all time and now and forever. Amen.
I Corinthians 1
our Lord Jesus Christ, 8 who will also confirm you to the end, blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.
I Thessalonians 5
Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be kept complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is He who calls you, and He also will do it.
• Justification is “an act of God whereby He pronounces a sinner to be righteous because of that sinner’s faith in Christ.” We are justified, or declared righteous, at the moment of our salvation.
• Sanctification is “the process by which Christians are set apart for God from the rest of the world, or the process by which Christians are made holy.” Progressive, or experiential, sanctification, as it is sometimes called, is the effect of obedience to the Word of God in one’s life. It is the same as growing in the Lord (2 Peter 3:18) or spiritual maturity.
• Glorification is “God’s final removal of sin from the life of the saints so that they stand faultless before Him in glory in eternity” (Romans 8:18; 2 Corinthians 4:17). At Christ’s coming, the glory of God (Romans 5:2)-His honor, praise, majesty, and holiness-will be realized in us; we will have direct and unhindered access to God’s presence, and we will enjoy holy communion with Him throughout eternity.
As mentioned above, these three words describe the full process of salvation. As Christians, we were justified when we confessed Christ and believed (Romans 10:9), we are sanctified as we grow in holiness through the work of the Spirit (Ephesians 4:11-32; Galatians 5:16-24), and we will someday be glorified when we are resurrected into eternal life (Colossians 3:4). Justification is a one-time event, sanctification is a process, and glorification is a future event.
If you are a Christian, you are guaranteed all three steps (see Romans 8:29-30). You are forever justified, you are being sanctified, and you will for sure be glorified (1 Corinthians 6:11). All three of these amazing things are from God’s grace, not because of anything you have done or will do to earn them (Ephesians 2:8-9). You cannot earn your justification, you cannot achieve your sanctification, and you cannot merit your glorification. God makes all these things happen out of His love for you, by His grace alone (Romans 3:24; 2 Corinthians 9:8; Philippians 2:13; Titus 2:11). If you are trying to achieve any of these three things by your own power, you will inevitably fail. Instead, ask God for His grace, rely on His power, and walk by the Spirit.
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@@jlewis8145 SDA teach Sanctification. Good points.
SAMUEL WILLIAMS is a bot account⚠️☝️ that can't debate the SDA statements of beliefs...
It will present a sources or two from Wikipedia or scripture but crashes when presented with a challenge to debate the SDA statements of beliefs and the contradictions that over shadow the church...
It will then began repeating the same thing over and over making baseless claims without any form of justification through sources..
It's programed to constantly comment a few things about the Sabbath... and the other comments are all the same over and over .....God loves you, why tell lies".....
It can't comprehend a legitimate debate about the SDA church through multiple sources...
Good stuff. Great host; knowledgeable. Both guests were honest. Ford very likeable. I think I remember something about his heresy when I was a kid.
Even the lady in the back row knitting was fantastic.
Rev 14 v 12
Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
Isaiah 63 : 23
And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
Matthew 5 : 17 -18
“Think not that I am come to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Why does the Seventh Day Adventist church break the third and ninth commandments? Why do they make fun of God and say that he has to perform an 'Investigative Judgment?'
@@jlewis8145 They also break the 6th command with all the abortions taken place in their own SDA hospitals.
@@jlewis8145 not everyone breaks them..its unfortunate they are people who do that and as far as I understand SDA, they don't condone such behaviour..but as Jesus said the greatest commandment is "Love the Lord your god with all heart and Love your neighbour as you love yourself)". This is a summary of the commandments...the first 4 deal with your relationship with God...the last 6 deal with your relationships with fellow manking..and remember breaking any 1 is breaking all. So adventists who break those commandments are doing wrong..
The issue however is why do most religions have and issue with that Sabbath commandment but not the with the rest of the other commandments..so there is indeed something about that commandment that makes it peculiar considering is the subject of debate amongst Christians but the rest are okay..at the same time why do SDA place emphasis on the commandment that is mostly attacked by the world..?
@@edwardtafirenyika683 The real question is why doesn't the Seventh Day Adventist church go into all the world and preach the gospel as Jesus commanded us to?
The gospel is in I Cor. 15. If you have a different gospel, then you are under a curse. Galatians 1:8-9
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
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. Jesus said to go into all the world and preach the gospel. Jesus never said to hold prophecy seminars or preach the fourth commandment.
What did Jesus Christ preach?
Mark 1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
What did the apostle Paul preach?
20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house,
21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Adventists are under great delusional spell, how did the first Church preach the Gospel without egw yet they did exploits? Why do they want to force her writings and claim sda is the remnant Church?
Any religous foundation or religous dogma group that will not allow inquiry to their creed or statement of faith and its source is either false OR the person asked is either fake or not educated in what they SAY they believe
These two passages, one from the old and òne from the new Testaments speak of the judgment. What is this judgment for and when it take place?
The judgment seat of Christ involves a time in the future when believers will give an account of themselves to Christ. This is the plain teaching of Scripture: “We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad” (2 Corinthians 5:10). The warning is to Christians, not unbelievers. As Jesus taught in His parable, the king is going to return, at which time he will require an account from his servants (Luke 19:11-26).
The judgment seat of Christ is different from the Great White Throne Judgment. That will be the final judgment of the wicked prior to their being cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15). Appearing before the Great White Throne will be unbelievers. Believers will appear before the judgment seat of Christ.
The judgment seat of Christ does not determine our salvation; that matter was settled by Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf (1 John 2:2) and our faith in Him (John 3:16). All our sins are forgiven, and there is “no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” (Romans 8:1). Jesus said, “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life” (John 5:24, emphasis added).
So, believers are secure in Christ, but they still must appear before the judgment seat of Christ. It will be a time of examination and a time of reward. Jesus will inspect our works. What did we do with the resources God gave us? How faithful were we? Were we yielded to the Spirit, seeking to honor Christ and further His work in the world? If so, we will have reward (see Matthew 10:41-42). Did we neglect our opportunities to serve the Lord? If so, we will suffer loss of reward. Paul likens our Christian service to erecting a building:
Each one should build with care. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved-even though only as one escaping through the flames (1 Corinthians 3:10b-15).
Note, in the above passage, that our works subsequent to Christ’s salvation are of two different types-good and bad. The “fire” of God’s scrutiny will reveal the quality of our works. As Arthur Pink points out, “‘Gold, silver, precious stones’ are of intrinsic value, whereas ‘wood, hay, stubble’ are a natural growth” (The Redeemer’s Return, ch. 8, pt. 5). Rewards are distributed to those whose works withstand the test. Those whose works have a natural source will “suffer loss.” Their works will be burned up, but they themselves “will be saved.” The judgment seat of Christ, then, does not confer or rescind salvation.
The judgment seat of Christ is also not a time to punish sin. Jesus took our punishment once and for all. The judgment seat of Christ is a time when we will be called on to report, to render an accounting of what we did for Jesus. It will be a serious and necessary time of reckoning, but, as God’s redeemed, we will never be condemned with the wicked. As one theologian put it, “It cannot be too strongly emphasized that the judgment is unrelated to the problem of sin, that it is more for the bestowing of rewards than the rejection of failure” (Chafer, L. S., Systematic Theology, Vol. IV: Ecclesiology-Eschatology, Dallas Seminary Press, 1948, p. 406).
In the Greek, a single word is used for “judgment seat” in Romans 14:10 and 2 Corinthians 5:10-the word is bema. A bema was a raised platform on which judges sat to view athletic games. Their job was to make sure contestants followed the rules and to present awards to the victors (see 1 Corinthians 9:24-27). The bema was never a place to reprimand the athletes or to punish them in any way. It was a place of testing and reward. In the same way, the bema of Christ will not be a place of condemnation or censure.
In anticipation of the judgment seat of Christ, we are careful in what we say and do in this life. James gives this advice: “Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom” (James 2:12; cf. Matthew 12:36). We want to give our account with joy on that day, and that is why we strive to serve the Lord faithfully today.
The Bible speaks of believers receiving crowns for different things. The various crowns are described in 2 Timothy 2:5, 2 Timothy 4:8, James 1:12, 1 Peter 5:4, and Revelation 2:10. We believe the judgment seat of Christ is when the crowns will be awarded, and this will take place in heaven soon after the rapture of the church (as described in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18).
At the very end of the Bible, Jesus said, “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done” (Revelation 22:12). In preparation for the judgment seat of Christ, what are you choosing to “build” with? Gold, silver, and precious stones-things that will last? Or wood, hay, and straw-things that will not stand the day of testing?
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read the book of judges and you will know what judgement means.
@@jlewis8145 dont forget that the SAINTS IN DANIEL 7 will be awarded the kingdom after a court session .In Daniel 7
God’s people on earth here called “saints of the Most High” who are not physically present but are judged and vindicated (7:18).
That this is a judgment scene is verified by the phrase, “the court sat in judgment, and the books were opened” (7:10). The books in question contain the records of life and are directly connected to judgment (cf. Rev 20:12).
That this judgment takes place before the Second Coming, i.e., in the final days of earth’s history, is confirmed by the fact that at its conclusion the dominion is taken away from the little horn and the kingdom is given to the saints.
Here then we have clear, biblical support for the pre-Advent judgment.Its not adventist ...its in the bible 2 corinthians 5:10 and romans 14;10 and ecclesiastics 3:17 were pointing to future judgment of saints ...the judgement shows that NOT ALL who say Lord LORD are Christians ...the judgment checks all who claim to be christians and separates sheep from goats ....the Shephered purges his sheep !the shephered makes us pass under His rod! Ezekiel 20:37-38
Notice that the sheep pass under the rod. Besides being an instrument of both offense and defense-the rod was, in effect, a two-foot club-it also functioned as a tool, under which the sheep passed. What does this picture? First of all, it pictures counting. The shepherd would count the sheep in his flock to make sure they were all present and accounted for.
It pictures something else too. As the sheep passed under the rod-a symbol of the Word of God-they would undergo a close scrutiny. The shepherd would run his rod backward or across the grain, as it were, of the wool. The rod separated the wool, allowing the shepherd to look down onto the sheep's skin. He was then able to see both the quality of the skin and of the wool.
God is illustrating that by means of His rod, He is giving us careful, close scrutiny for two reasons: One, it gives Him the opportunity to evaluate the quality of His sheep. Two, it provides a means of separation. Quality and separation are the two reasons for His scrutiny of us.
Recall Matthew 25 and the separation of the sheep and the goats. The rod aids in identifying or making sure of possession. Sheep's ears were often bored through or distinctively notched as a mark of identification. Sometimes, since the shepherds could not always see that identifying mark due to several flocks being mixed together in the pasture, they would make the sheep pass under the rod. When they did, the shepherd would flip back the ear to see the mark of possession. The wicked are examined in revelation 20 and shown why they are not His possession .the Righteous also are examined to show why they are his possession .ALL PUBLIC ALL TRANSPARENT .revelation 11:1 shows a rod being used to measure ( OR COUNT WORSHIPPERS ).1....... Then I was given a measuring reed like a rod,[a] with these words: “Go[b] and measure the temple of God and the altar, and count those who worship there....measuring in that verse has something to do with COUNTING the worshipers .....COUNTING WORSHIPERS IS A SEPARATION OF THE RIGHTEOUS FROM THE NON RIGHTEOUS ..ONLY CHRIST CAN DO THAT .thats the judgmentseat In Daniel 7
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Seventh day Adventism teaches that under THEIR Investigative Judgment that ALL Adventists will face the Judgment seat of God WITHOUT Jesus Christ as their FRIEND
PASTOR
ADVOCATE
JUSTIFIER
GLORIFIER
SANCTIFIER
REDEEMER
SCAPEGOAT at the Judgment seat of God ........
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According to Adventism because
Ellen G White said so ; ALL
Seventh day Adventists will face the Judgment seat of God WITHOUT Jesus Christ as their
FRIEND
PASTOR
ADVOCATE
JUSTIFIER
GLORIFIER
SANCTIFIER
REDEEMER
SCAPEGOAT at the Judgment seat of God
And also do not forget that there are Ten Commandments that must be strictly obeyed or all hell will and is breaking loose! And we do not want that, do we? No we do not by any means. I pray that all of the Ten Commandments will be obeyed as of today. I also pray that all who need to repent of all of their sins soon. I suggest that they do it as soon as possible as there is not too much time left. In the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen.
*By what reason, do Adventists possibly make a difference between the law of Moses and the law of God in Lev. 23????* *God Commanded Moses to Give those Laws, they did NOT originate from Moses!* Lev. 22:31 declares verse 31 *"Therefore shall ye keep MY COMMANDMENTS, and DO them: I am the Lord"*
The very first words of Lev. 23 says they are the *words and laws of God and he is the author of every law and and word of Lev. 23, not Moses!*
Lev. 23:1 *"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying.."* Moreover: Lev. 22:31 declares 31 *"Therefore shall ye keep my commandments, and do them: I am the Lord"* Leviticus 22:9 warns: *They shall therefore keep mine ordinance, lest they bear sin for it, and DIE*
1. How can there possibly be an difference between "the law of God" and the "Law of Moses" when *God gave the Law to Moses* (Ezra 7:6; Neh 8:1) and *Moses gave the Law of God* (Neh 10:29; 2 Chron 34:14)?
2. *If there is a distinction between the moral and ceremonial laws, why does Exodus 16, Duet 5, Numbers 26, Lev 23, all include the weekly Sabbath, if the Sabbath was supposed to be unique to the 10 commandments?* The Adventists are dishonest, that's why. They don't want to see it, because their whole theology collapses if they admit the truth out loud. Lev. 22:31 declares verse 31 *"Therefore shall ye keep MY COMMANDMENTS, and DO them: I am the Lord"*
3. Lev. 22:31 *"Therefore shall ye keep MY COMMANDMENTS, and DO them: I am the Lord"*
*Why are the two most important commandments* and large volumes of moral laws contained within the Adventists so called *"ceremonial law of Moses* that was Sabbatarians say was nailed to the cross? (Matthew 22:36-40) Lev. 22:31 declares verse 31 *"Therefore shall ye keep MY COMMANDMENTS, and DO them: I am the Lord"* NOR one Jot or Tittle can pass from the law without heaven and earth passing away FIRST (Mt. 5:18)
4. The very first words of Lev. 23 Show that the weekly Sabbath IS the first of the *appointed times commanded to worship God.* and the first one of them is the weekly Sabbath. Contrary to Adventist's own teachings regarding the Sabbath, they use Acts 15:21 to show the Apostles sending the Gentiles to the Synagogue to learn Moses! However, the Adventists claim that the learning of "Moses" in the synagogue, means learning the Sabbath day! This is typical of their attempt to have it both ways when they need to defend their false teachings.
@@chucksmith4624 does the name “Seventh Day” say anything to you? It is one of the Ten is it not? That is why dear Ellen Gould Harmon White was ousted from her church because the pastor did not want to obey it. So Jesus said to dust off the dirt from your feet and move on and that is what she and James her husband and others did. Thus the Seventh Day Adventist Church was started in 1869. It possibly could have started in 1842-3. But they needed organization first. We can and should all come to God and Jesus in our knees and repent of all of the sins against the Ten Commandments before it is too late. The first trumpet has already sounded! We must all be prepared! All of us! I pray that the whole world repents and is saved by Jesus’ life. Believe in Him in John 3: 16, 17. Amen.
It's a LAW. Do you believe in Christ or you follow the LAW?
Commandments are: the law of sin and death. No one was saved by them. You have already broken them. Jesus is the law of spirit and truth. There is no love in you if you accuse every other denomination.
Sola Scriptural. You are completely wrong. Your denomination the aches a different gospel. You are baptized under another name. Uh Oh... 😢
@@SandyLaFlower-b5n NO! Why do you think that Moses the one who received them on Mt . Sinai through them at the people after he came down the mountain? He threw them because they were too roust and raucously to even listen so they had to spend forty years in the desert wondering and winder if what it was that they had to learn. The Ten Commandments and how to get along with each other. The whole scriptures include Genesis and Exodus, and Deuteronomy, etc all of the books from which we can learn all that was divinely written by the hand of God via the authors of each. The Oy begotten son of God namely Jesus Christ said “If you live me, keep my commandments.” Sola scripture !
I take it that you are not in your right mind right now by the sound of it. Please take a nap and take care of yourself before judging someone. Okay? I will be praying for you and the whole world that we turn to God and His Holy Bible and repent of the sins against Him and His earth that He has so nicely given us that we are destroying day by day. There is not much time left as we have already heard the first trumpet blast not too long ago in the book of Revelation! Repent ASAP! Okay.
Their (SDAs) Jesus is Michael the Archangel! Talk about blasphemy! Jesus is NOT a created being - He is the CREATOR, cultists. We're NOT brethren!
No matter what denomination, dont give up on following Christ from the bible.
Personal relationship with a personal God
@@onementality9781 Yes but it depends on what God.
John 14:6 (KJV) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Yeah. Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of Herod.
Agree!@@qrchris
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LDS : The father of LIES the Devil is the Spirit brother of Jesus Christ
SAME AS........
SDA : The father of LIES the Devil is the SDA HERO SCAPEGOAT of Adventism
Bottom line,.God has the final verdict. In the New Heaven and New Earth.We will be worshipping God.
Isaiah 66:22-23 KJV
For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. [23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
Are you looking forward to worship God on His Holy Day?
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So in other words we will be WORSHIPPING God SEVEN days out of the WEEK even on SUNDAY'S as it is in Heaven as it is on Earth 🌎
Thank you for confirming that the Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable
1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18
They can't handle that we as christians can have victory over sin!
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We all sin everyday knowingly or unknowingly
As a 4 gen former adventist.
Now a christian.
I have no idea how one thinks they're going to heaven when one doesn't believe that they're going to heaven. Being adventist and believing in the investigative judgment.
It's either faith Through grace. or EGW & investigative judgment.
adventist jesus OR Christian faith through grace jesus.
I guess you werent listening the guest speakers. Ellen White did not develop the Investigative Judgement. That came through Bible Study, and prayer of the early Adventists - but you, like so many others, spread untruths and rumors through ignorance.
The spirit of Prophecy spoke through EGW. Endorsing the investigative , Saturday worship..
So when they say EGW. didn't come up with the tenants it's a straw man.
Who's ignorant now.
THE SDA church Will destroy your belief in your soul As well the belief that you. Go to heaven When you die. that is for those ignorant christians.
When the devil knows that you have to understand both.
To enter the kingdom.
Generally.
And that's the rub my adventist friends.
@@Shelter93 THE IJ WAS IN EFFECT and promoted by Adventists prior to her inclusion of statements about it. End of Story. Endorsing, promoting and standing by something is completely different than being an originator, which is what people ignorant about Adventist history do all the time. They (people such as you) used to say that it was Ellen White who said Jesus was to return in 1843. After being continually embarrassed, that lie has pretty much been eradicated.
All you do when you make such absurd statements is demonstrate that you're acting like charlatan and must work at winning an argument at all costs. In the alternative, you are just acting on the promptings of the evil one, in fulfillment of Revelation 12:17. Its one or the other.
Actualy, the Investigative Judgement says, basically one thing. If you are calling yourself a Christian, but not being obedient to Christ, submitting to His Spirit, then you will not be in heaven. Its that simple.
The only "weird" thing, would be when this judgement takes place. We believe that the professing Christians who are dead are in their graves, but being judged now (as of 1844). The living will be judged at the very last moments of earths History when two camps will become totally polarized - one group allowing the Holy Spirit to control, the other group allowing personal self interests to control. Once can say they are a Christian and even not do obvious bad things. Only those who are truly led of the Spirit will enter heaven.
So, it is not really "weird" or unbiblical at all. You probably just dont like the idea of living totally for Christ, and I am here to tell you, that if you dont, no matter what you say you believe. you will be lost.
I am a Christian a Seventh day Adventist. I expect to be in heaven. Since I love others. I follow the Bible.
A question to the preacher,when did ,and in which chapter do we find the breaking of the seven seals?By answering this question,it will help us to solve that puzzle of yours.confirm
It happened in Revelation 5 at the moment our Lord Jesus returned to his throne after he has risen to be exalted by the Father,remember the bible is not written in a chronological order.
@@thembandlovu3344 do you believe bible as words of God?
@JSF_1183 if I didn't I wouldn't be here
Nothing is broken
Revelation 5:1-14 KJV
And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. [2] And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? [3] And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. [4] And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. [5] And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. [6] And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. [7] And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. [8] And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. [9] And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; [10] And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. [11] And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; [12] Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. [13] And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. [14] And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
@@sardotabil6347 Amen and Amen. SDA teach this.
They can debate all day and one can say the SDA is false teaching. But no other Christian professed group follows all 10 commandments especially #4 (Sabbath/Saturday) besides the SDA. God bless.
In ISA. 65 the prophet ISAIAH says the Old creation of Genesis 1 and 2 *would NOT BE REMEMBERED or even come to MIND!* And, the weekly Sabbath is a reminder of the 7th day after when the world fell into sin and darkness and needed redemption! Jer.4.
Thus saith the LORD: Isa. 65: 17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the *former shall NOT be REMEMBERED, NOR come into mind.* ( *that verse alone destroys the Adventist Church's false "Spirit of Prophecy" and their failure to understand Isa.66:22-24* )
Speaking at the church which Christ has himself established the prophet Isaiah goes on to say:
18 But be *ye glad and rejoice for ever* in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and *her people a joy.*
The prophet Isaiah having said this in Chapter 65, could not possibly mean the opposite in Chapter 66! Thus, Isa.65:17 is showing Ellen G. White and the Adventist Church to be false prophets! See my video on Isaiah 66:22-24 *The meaning of the word, "From"* ua-cam.com/video/KuPodPPmEyo/v-deo.html The Adventist's can't read and comprehend simple English sentences correctly. For example Isa.66: 22-24 says *"FROM"* ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER, NOT *"ON"* the Sabbath! The prophet Isaiah in only a few verses earlier *explicitly said, the "OLD CREATION" would NOT BE REMEMBERED! And, every Adventists knows that the weekly Sabbath was given to the Jews to REMEMBER THE OLD CREATION! Therefore, the correct understanding of Isaiah 66:22-24 is that it is a Hebrew idiom to mean EVERY DAY OF EVERY WEEK INCLUDING SUNDAY, NOT JUST ON SATURDAY.
SDA is God bless no matter what men or people may say.
@@robinsonaenasi9800 Sure, all the cults declare the same thing. There is a real reason why 60% of the people leave Adventist because they refuse to be honest.
@@catholic4sure976 The "new creation" is future. Jesus will return, we know not when exactly but soon apparently, the great judgment will take place, the wicked including the fallen angels and their leader will be cast into the lake of fire and destroyed. Then and only then will God create a new heavens and a new earth where we will live with Him forever. Isaiah, by your own statement was a "prophet" and a prophesy tells about events to come, not past events. Get with it catholic U sure?
If you emphasise 'sabbath'( 4th commandment) what about the rest 9? Who gave the other commandments? How would you explain James 2:10?
The 3angels message is in Revelation..
What is not in the Bible is the sda's interpretation of it. Read,and read again. (Not from the clear word bible). Maybe copy and paste the text so you can show the rest of us.
The 3 angels messeges 1. Great commission of Mathew 28:19-20, (2)Bible clearly rells us who Babylon is.Revelations 18:3, then Revelation 18:3, then move to Revelations 17:18 & finally Revelations 11:8. Babylon being referred to here is Jerusalem. (3)Antiochus Ephiphinus fulfilled the third Angels messege nearly 2000 years ago
@@killiansayi2162
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You said REVELATIONS three times
( PLURAL ) on your last comment
John the Beloved didn't have
REVELATIONS- PLURAL
The Apostle John had
A.......REVELATION
( SINGULAR ) while on the Island of Patmos
NOT REVELATIONS.......
LDS : Joseph Smith said Angels have GOLDEN PLATES
SAME AS........
SDA : Ellen G White said Angels have GOLDEN CARDS
( Early writings 39 : 2 )
Using the Bible ONLY
Using the Bible FIRST
As Adventists claim to do
WHERE in the KJV Bible 1611, or in the Hebrew, Aramaic or GREEK of the text do Angels have
GOLDEN PLATES GOLDEN CARDS just because Ellen G White and her contemporary Joseph Smith said so
( Chapter and verse please )
If you don't mind
Thank you in advance
BIBLICAL GOSPEL
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@@killiansayi2162
4 - 7 - 24
The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable
1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18
Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ?
SIMPLE Yes.....or......no
LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT
SAME AS........
SDA : Are your sins blotted out?
SIMPLE Yes....or......no
@@killiansayi2162
4 - 8 - 24
You said REVELATIONS three times as in PLURAL
It is actually the Book of REVELATION ( SINGULAR )
John the Beloved had a REVELATION ( SINGULAR ) on the Island of Patmos
Revelation 14:6 fear God and give glory to Him for the hour of his judgement has come. My question is, when did this judgement begun?
Many judgments are found in nations and peoples throughout the Bible but the great and final one will be at His Second coming when the sheep (the saved) will be separated from the goats and will be taken to heaven, and (the unbelievers), hosts will burn with fire from heaven and turn to ashes.
The goats (correction from the above).
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@@mangnuraj
According to Ellen G White, a false prophet who took the writings of others DENIED doing it and claimed it all came directly from God....
@williamwelch2352 THE LORD THE I AM HAS BEEN CLEARLY SAVING SINNERS forgiveness of sin SINCE THE WORD FAITH BELIEF came about
Dear Friends, please stop and think...please
Matthew 12:31... Revelation 19:10...Revelation 22...
The Seventh Day Adventist is the only church that claims to have the gift of Prophecy, who's history lines up with Revelation chapters 10,11,12 & 14... who boldly claims there are call by GOD to take the message of Revelation 14:6-12 to the hold World 🌎 , to call GOD'S sincere people out of Babylon (Sun) (Sunday) worship Revelation 13, 17 & 18 ...
Two women (Churches) in Revelation chapters 12-19, Jesus says one belongs to Him Revelation 12. Only one church fits... Revelation 12:17 & 19:10...
The Spirit of prophecy is the gift of the Holy Spirit itself to blasphemy the gift is to blasphemy the giver...
We're is your Prophet...???
You must stop doing drugs, for you speaks way to much BS while following a witch called EGW.
To my beloved SDA brethren, let us leave the matter into God's hands. He does not call us to spark debate. Indeed, it is hurtful to be wrongly accused. However, the truth will shine like mid-day. Our dear Lord was compassionate even to His enemies. The three angels' message will encompass the whole world and all will have to make a decision. Let us forgive and pray for them. By our words and actions, let us reflect the image of our Saviour.
"The strongest argument in favor of the gospel is a loving and lovable Christian." (MH 470.1. )
Some truth. But as Paul did to try to show those who were attacking him were wrong.
So do Seventh day Adventist use the Bible to show we are following Jesus and keeping his word.
Luke 6:5-10 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. And it came to pass also on another sabbath, that he entered into the synagogue and taught: and there was a man whose right hand was withered. And the scribes and Pharisees watched him, whether he would heal on the sabbath day; that they might find an accusation against him. But he knew their thoughts, and said to the man which had the withered hand, Rise up, and stand forth in the midst. And he arose and stood forth. Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it? And looking round about upon them all, he said unto the man, Stretch forth thy hand. And he did so: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
No.
The Bible is always first and her writing lesser.
She says so many times. For example.
The Lord has sent His people much instruction, line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, and there a little. Little heed is given to the Bible, and the Lord has given a lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light. 103 CSA 68.6
"Lay Sister White right to one side: lay her to one side. Don't you never quote my words again as long as you live, until you can obey the Bible. When you take the Bible and make that your food, and your meat, and your drink, and you make that the elements of your character, when you can do that you will know better how to receive some counsel from God. But here is the Word, the precious Word, exalted before you today. And don't you give a rap any more what 'Sister White Said' -'Sister White said this,' and 'Sister White said that,' and 'Sister White said the other thing'. But say, 'Thus saith the Lord God of Israel.'" -- Spalding and Magan Collection 167.2
The Bible is the final authority.
God is love.
@@nicetry620
@@nicetry620 You keep repeating the same words over and over. Not giving any proof.
All you do is spread hate.
So very sad.
@@nicetry620 Same answer. As given.
@joelvillarreal5243 Yes they do. The sda is a false religion. We as Christians are to stand on the truth and expose this false religion and devils of doctrine. Is Jesus Christ that saves, not keeping the Sabbath. Repent and surrender your life to Jesus before it's to late. Ew is not the way. Jesus is Lord.
God didn't need Theologeins. He chose fisherman and tent makers. So I care not about your degrees
Exactly ! Agreed !
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He chose to Apostle Paul who
WAS an educated person
God chose KING David
Joseph became Prime Minister of Egypt
@@porfiriojohn5276
@charlynesimms9451 was correct, God doesn't need Theologians.
He needs people who are willing to do what He says, be they educated or fishermen. David was a shepherd, then became a soldier and rose to King..... Joseph was a shepherd too, and a prisoner later, and rose to second in command under Pharoh..,
It's good to see you actually talking, rather than spamming your befuddled views of Adventism all over.
God is Love!
@@loren719
6 - 2 - 24
Thank you for COPYING me because you have NO MIND of YOUR OWN
@@loren719
6 - 2 - 24
Good SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day!
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
Jesus never sinned.
He also kept the Sabbath. Keep reading.
Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Matthew 12:8 For the son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day. Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. Acts 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. So why do you say these words are false? Love does no wrong to others, so love fulfills the requirements of God’s law.
Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Matthew 12:8 For the son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day.
Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Acts 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
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Read Geneis 2.
Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Matthew 12:8 For the son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day. Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. Acts 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. So why do you say these words are false? Love does no wrong to others, so love fulfills the requirements of God’s law.
Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Matthew 12:8 For the son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day.
Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
@@nicetry620 But you failed to read her words. She said put her words aside and pay attention and to read the Bible.
So I did that. And I continue to do it. I follow the Bible first and foremost.
@@nicetry620 White said to follow the Bible above her.
But all you talk about is White.
I prefer to speak on the Biblr.
@@nicetry620
Yes and she says that we are to put her words aside and study the Bible.
"Lay Sister White right to one side: lay her to one side. Don't you never quote my words again as long as you live, until you can obey the Bible. When you take the Bible and make that your food, and your meat, and your drink, and you make that the elements of your character, when you can do that you will know better how to receive some counsel from God. But here is the Word, the precious Word, exalted before you today. And don't you give a rap any more what 'Sister White Said' -'Sister White said this,' and 'Sister White said that,' and 'Sister White said the other thing'. But say, 'Thus saith the Lord God of Israel.'" -- Spalding and Magan Collection 167.2
@@nicetry620 Again no problem. since she says to read and study the Bible above all. Why do you have a problem with that?
Since I have done it for decades. I began to read more of her words after I spent years in studying the Bible first and above all.
So have you read our Fundamental beliefs?
SUNDAY = THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK.
MATTHEW 28:1 Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.
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JOHN 20:1 Now the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb.
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ACTS 20:7 Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight.
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1 CORINTHIANS 16:2 On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come.
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MATTHEW 12: At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. 2 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, "Look, Your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!" 3 But He said to them, "Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him: 4 how he entered the house of God and ate the showbread which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests? 5 Or have you not read in the law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless? 6 Yet I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the temple. 7 But if you had known what this means, 'I desire mercy and not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the guiltless. 8 For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath."
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HEBREWS 10: 9 then He said, "Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God." He takes away the first [Covenant] that He may establish the second. 10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But this Man, AFTER He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.
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(Former Jew) Paul, to the church at Rome, in ROMANS 14: 4 Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. 5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord's. 9 For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written: "As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God." 12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. 13 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother's way.
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I WILL LOVE THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH FOREVER
Anyone notice the woman behind the presenter just calmly knitting
Not my colour😂
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Hahahhahah she's busy knitting
Of all things just noticing a person knitting 😂😂😂😂 ahh people don't make me laugh
Peace of God to all believers. Let us embrace the truth even when it is bitter. It is not easy to see error where one belongs in, especially if indoctrinated since childhood. But even with error, one has the right standing with God if they hope in the atoning sacrifice of Jesus. May our SDA brethren not hurt.
Derek Prince, like so many Adventists, now passed away, say that the church can't be founded on Peter, who's proper name only means Rock. But then, try to find another Church that has existed 2,000 years built by Christ himself. You won't. Moreover, Derek Prince is wrong again, because Christ vowed by his sacred word, that he would remain with his Church "even unto the end of the world" putting Derek Prince and all the Protestants who have wished and spoken so much evil to everlasting shame. Moreover, The Apostle Paul writes by the Holy Spirit these infallible words in his epistle to the Church of Rome. *"The God of Peace will crush Satan under the Church of Rome's feet"* Rom.16:20
1John 2:18-19, how that *"They"* WENT OUT and left the Church because *"They"* were not of US (the church) .1John 2 goes on to say, *"for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us:* That's what Protestantism did, *"They"* went out from us.
And, in Mt. 28 after Christ's gave his apostles and church "THE POWER" to both FORGIVE and to Retain Sin, he vows, "LO, I am with YOU (THE APOSTOLIC CHURCH) *EVEN UNTO THE END OF THE WORLD*
Lastly, Christ providing his own ETERNAL GUARANTEE vows says, "The Gates of Hell shall NOT prevail against it. Mt. 16:16-18, while giving Peter himself, the power to both bind and loosen in Christ's place.
@@catholic4sure976 You are just as lost as the SDA's. You have not rightly divided, (2 Tim.2:15) and if you are in the RCC, and follow their doctrines, you are not even saved. The gospel is 1Cor.15:1-4, through faith in His blood Romans 3:25, and that atoning blood alone, 1Peter 1:18,19, once for all time Hebrews 10:10.
Romans 16:20 says "And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.", it does not say "under the Church of Rome's feet". You should look into what God says about changing/taking away/adding to His word - Deut. 4:2, Rev. 22:19, Proverbs 30:5,6.
Also, you need to reread Matthew 28, bc it most certainly does not say anything about giving the apostles and the church the power to forgive sin; our sins were judged at the cross. You do realize that Jesus' earthly ministry was to Jews only? And he told Peter and the other apostles to go ONLY to Jews at first. In Acts chapter 10, God tells Peter to go to Cornelius (a gentile). This is where the transition from Jews only to Gentiles happens. Paul is the apostle to the gentiles Gal. 2:7,8. I say these things in love because I want to see you get saved. Now...Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth (Gal. 4:16)? Lastly, please see 2 Peter 3:16.
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@@catholic4sure976 Jesus gave all of the apostles the ability to bind and loose, which is simply to forgive sins and retain sins according to God's Word (John 20:21-22; Matt 18)
There's no record of Peter having been in Rome in the Scriptures.
There's no succession written of in the Scriptures.
There is warning, however, to only lift up Christ, not teachers, 1 Cor 1.
Jesus Christ is head of the church now and forever...we go to Him alone...no man, for forgiveness and acceptance by faith that abides in Christ and His grace John 14:6, ch 15. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, Jesus Christ.
Jesus is with all believers who endure and persevere to the end Revelation 2 & 3; John 3, 14, 15.
May God's love be with all true believers and those seeking to know Him diligently till the end
@@jeangreen432 Please stop abusing scripture. *PETER IN ROME -- ua-cam.com/video/2wCXqh3VpW8/v-deo.html*
@@wyattearpswoman838 False when God said that he will rush Satan under your feet, he is clearly referring to the Romans who belong to the Roman Catholic Church. Was there another in church in Rome at the time?
In Romans 16 20, what is that word ROMANs written there? Does it refer to you or your church or to the Romans or the church in Rome?
" We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive thè things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 2Cor : 5 : 10.
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Please, read Romans 8: 1-8 📖✝️🙏😇
What the Adventists have done *in their body* will haunt them forever.
@@catholic4sure976 ???
There is therefore no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus.....Romans 8: 1-4.
I am curious, what have the Adventist’s done to their bodies? I know that they do not drink any alcoholic beverages, they are vegetarians, do not smoke nor use drugs and follow strict health rules,(exercise , no caffeine, sun, fresh air , lots of natural products, etc.),. So tell us what you think they do bad to their bodies, I would like to hear what you know that I do not know.😁
Yet no one asked those guests (particularly Mr Ford ) the next and probably most crucial question ≈
and that is why doesnt he and others then drop the "SDA" label and bond to it as a denomination . . and rather just call yourself a believer in the one true church ( there is only one truely in SPIRIT) ??
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In other words what theological tenants are in SDA that you believe are so accurate that you would continued to be labeled as a member on "SDA church " ??? . . . .
David say the LAW OF THE LORD IS PERFECT.......ANY VARIATION OF IT MAKES IT IMPERFECT and is therefore EVIL.!
see Psalms 19;:7....GOD'S LAW is design to convert the soul.
.How does God accomplish this?
..See Psalms 1:2 ...& ....Philippians 4:8
Why does God do this?
See Ecclesiastes 12:13,14
Paul sayThe LAW OF THE LORD aka THE TEN COMMANDMEMT is HOLY ,PURE JUST and GOOD...see Romans 7:12.
James say violation of GOD 'S LAW IS SIN!
See James 2:10 - 12
When one violate God Law deliberately it is called PRESUMPTUOUS SIN..
See Numbers 15:30... Psalms 19:13.
Another word for presumptuouus sin is iniquity ..Iniquity will keep you out of heaven.
David say God want us to mediate on God law BOTH DAY and NIGHT. see Psalms 1:2.
Paul say how to do it...See Philippians 4:8
Solomon say Keep God's law.
See Ecclesiastes 12:13,14.
John in Revelation say COMMANDMENT KEEPERS WILL BE IN HEAVEN...
see Revelation 22:14
THE SEVENTH DAY WEEKLY SABBATH IS A PART OF GOD'S LAW.See Exodus 20: 8- 11.
Therefore the seventh day weekly sabbath is
PERFECT...HOLY...JUST...PURE.. and GOOD!
Ellen White's writings IS IN HARMONY WITH GOD'S TEN COMMANDMENT AND THE TESTIMONY.....See Isaiah 8:20....
and that settles it for me!
The devil and his agents will obviously find lots of faults with SDA...since they are among the few that teaches and promotes God's law! You can visit the closest SDA church for more information.
And the troll is back at it👆.... making claims that he refuses to debate.
A BASIC understanding of dispensations (not the "hyper" stuff) easily refutes the above. We are gentiles during the church age or age of grace. Saved by faith in and acceptance of Jesus's sacrifice on the cross. We are not the nation of Israel looking forward in hopes of a messiah. Reference the Pauline epistles, and I would insist to stay KJV. It's always sad/funny to me that people who insist we are still bound to the law for salvation tend to ignore the multiple places Paul says we're not and that Jesus fulfilled the law. It was referenced above to study to show thyself approved. Read your Bibles everyone. Even if just to say you read the whole thing when asked. It's a lot harder to be misled when you've read and studied yourself. (Coming out of the Assemblies of God, especially the books of the Bible you're discouraged to read).
The comment at the end of Mr.Ankerberg is the true explanation of what it was stated by these Christian pastors. Great interview, Thank you. I have had the privilege to meet Dr. Desmond Ford and heard him preach many times and read his beautiful Christian teaching books, and he is an admirable human being, living a Christian exemplary life and fully committed to preach the gospel good news to all. He is now deceased, but I still read his books who teach the scriptures truths in a clear and proven way. I own and have read also Pastor Rea Book The White Lie that proves the falsehood that Mrs. White is not a prophet. Many , many Christians saw the light and left the S.D.A. Church, I am one of them.
@williamwelch2352 I thought the same thatyou do but the church will never abandon the teachings of Mrs. White and of Jesus incomplete atonement at His death on the cross and that we are been investigated By Him to see if we are fit for heaven, and I can’t belong to a church that teaches such unbiblical truths. Hi rather visit Baptist’s churches that preach Once Saved always Saved than one who makes you fear and doubt if you are.
They saw the light of Calvinism. The teaching of once saved always saved. That is not the Gospel. That is a doctrine. For they teach that GOD chooses to save some people and will send all the rest to hell because only those selected in the eternity past will go to heaven. The rest men, women and children were foreordained to burn in hell for all eternity is what GOD decided before the fall of man.
Samuel Williams isa troll account that goes by WILLIAMS STROUD and MOUNT CARMEL SHOWDOWN also Loren 719...
He's completely clueless about the SDA statements of beliefs. Don't bother with him
Greetings Olga, have you seen Test the Prophet's channel? It's like the White Lie and walks you through her plagiarism visually.
Blessings 🙏
@@nicetry620 Thanks 👍
SDA are preaching "another" gospel and "another Jesus" - Paul said such are to be accursed. Gal. 1:8-9 KJV
That's correct. The sda is a false doctrine.🙏
Paul preached God's JUDGMENT and His SABBATH.... which the Angel in Rev. 14:5,6 declares to be the EVERLASTING Gospel!
So Paul was correct, anyone who doesn't Preach the same Gospel he and the Angel Preached, let THAT person be accursed .
Do YOU preach the Everlasting Gospel?
God is Love!
@@loren719
6 - 2 - 24
Jesus Christ
The Holy Apostles
The Holy Apostle Paul
ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
What's your excuse ?
@@loren719
6 - 2 - 24
ANSWER
1at Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
@@loren719
6 - 2 - 24
Your SDA FAKE everlasting Gospel is your SDA 3 Angel message
Speaking of Angels.......
the truth will always remain .The God that we worship will always reveal Himself to us no matter what. About three cosmic message you can now learn that satan is using all means to deacive the saints.Always breahtren let us stand by God's word .it's not about the seventh day its about what the word of God says.
If you are not a virgin, then you won't be sealed.
What do we know about those who are sealed?
The book of Revelation does not give us many details about what the seal of God is, and it only gives us a few clues about those who are sealed:
They are "servants of our God" (Rev. 7:3)
They are 144,000 in number (Rev. 7:4)
They are from the twelve tribes of Israel (Rev. 7:4)
They have the "Father's name written in their foreheads" (Rev. 14:1; in ancient seals, the king's name was usually found on the seal.)
They "were redeemed from the earth" (Rev. 14:3)
They "are virgins" (Rev. 14:4)
They "follow the Lamb" (Rev. 14:4)
Their speech is pure (Rev. 14:5)
They are "without fault" (Rev. 14:5)
Please note: There is nothing in the description of the 144,000 about Sabbath-keeping. If Sabbath-keeping is indeed the most important and prominent sign that separates true Christians from false ones, then why didn't John at least mention it here in the section of Revelation that is describing those with the Seal of God?
www.nonsda.org/study7.shtml
You said:
".it's not about the seventh day its about what the word of God says."
Answer:
But the Seventh Day IS what God says in His Word.
SDA's only emphasize it because most of professed Christians refuse to Keep It..... they're ok with the other nine Commandments , just NOT ok with the Sabbath Commandment
(Ex. 20:8-11)
So we emphasize it.... "... and they that shall be of Thee shall BUILD the old waste places:
Thou shalt RAISE UP the foundations of many generations;
And thou shalt be called, THE REPAIRER OF THE BREACH,
the RESTORER of paths to dwell in... " Isa. 58:12
What is that "breach"?
Continue:
"... If thou turn away thy foot from the SABBATH, from doing thy pleasure on MY HOLY DAY;
and call the SABBATH a DELIGHT , the Holy of the LORD, Honourable; and shalt Honour Him,
not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
Then ... shalt thou DELIGHT thyself in the LORD... " Isa. 58:13,14
See? They that shall be of Thee will Repair that Breach - God's missing Sabbath - and Restore it - and will Delight themselves IN THE LORD!
This fits SDA's to a tee, seeking to Restore His missing Sabbath and DELIGHTING in it! Why? Because Jesus is LORD of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28)
We Love Jesus, so with delight, we Keep His Sabbath Holy as He called us to!
God is Love!!
@@loren719
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Well here you are AGAIN mentioning ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ on ANY of these Threads/ Comments NOR has ANY other Seventh day Adventist
( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE )
Why not ?
Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Too busy CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller ?
Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's and posting more on Saturday's than ANY other day of the WEEK being ?
#2
Jesus Christ
The Holy Apostles
The Holy Apostle Paul
ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
What's your excuse ?
#3
Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ?
What are you Adventists waiting for
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE !
@@loren719
4 - 8 - 24
It's about what Ellen G White says
SELF proclaimed MESSENGER
SELF proclaimed Lesser Light
SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy
And if SHE says that ADDING to the Holy Bible of God's Word , then it's perfectly fine for her to do that
@@loren719
4 - 8 - 24
LDS : Joseph Smith said Angels have GOLDEN PLATES
SAME AS.......
SDA : Ellen G White said Angels have GOLDEN CARDS
( Early writings 39 : 2 )
I have never known what truth was or ever been set free by truth until I became an SDA. I came to be one because of the Bible, not because of Ellen White. I never even read Ellen White's books. I grew up in many different denominations and left all of them because something being taught did not line up with Scripture. It wasn't unti I went to a seminar that I accepted the SDA church as the Word describes. Those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Christ. It is the only church that is in harmony with what the Bible calls truth, Jesus Christ, His Word and all His commandments are truth, not 9 out of 10. None can change if the Bible says those 3 are truth.
However, after hearing Ellen White follwing my conversion I know she is in complete harmony with the Word of God. It's the only time I have ever recognized the Bible being in complete harmony from beginning to the end with no contradictions. Nothing changes except in type and antitype and shadow and substance.
You're not SDA, you're just claiming to be one, because it's clear you don't even understand the official SDA statements of beliefs which requires you to follow Ellen G White's writings
@@nicetry620 apparently you don't know, as there is no requirement to know, but very helpful as a guide, and even puts the Bible as the standard. She uplifts Christ more than any other teacher out there, yet people call her all sorts of names. Shame people do not accept the love of the truth as told by the Word.
@@toddarcand6002
Was the spirit of prophecy MANIFESTED through HER writings according to FUNDAMENTAL BELIEF #18? Yes or No 😏..... answer the simple question
@@toddarcand6002
That's what I thought 😏🤫🤐....
All talk no source to back it up
@@nicetry620 according to scripture the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. I never read the fundamentals, but it does not require us to read it, but it is very profitable. By the way, you either have never read anything she wrote or you just hate the truth. Your 2nd response shows your ignorance, impatience, and arrogance over something you have no clue about, and definitely shows you have not the spirit of God in you.
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
2 Timothy 4:3-4
SDA is Deception Spirit, Babylon Spirit.
Yes, I do many videos about SDA. The ones I'm working on now will be really good. I have spent a year researching my video I'm working on about how Daniel 8:14 has to be 2300 sacrifices, not days. It is a bad mistranslation in the KJV that led to this fall assumption.
The daily mentioned in 8:13 is a daily sacrifice done in the morning and in the evening.
So the answer in verse 14 is evening morning, 2300 meaning after 2300 sacrifices are interrupted the sanctuary will be restored (restored back to doing sacrifices).
1150 days fits perfectly with how long Antiochus Epiphanes interrupted the sacrifices.
So they have no business doing a year for a day prophecy n a text that is only speaking about 2300 sacrifices halted 1160 days
@@chrislucastheprotestantview
You said:
"So they have no business doing a year for a day prophecy n a text
that is only speaking about 2300 sacrifices halted 1160 days"
Answer:
Sure "they" do.... according to Gabriel, who was sent to help Daniel understand the vision, the time to start the vision of the 2300 [days] was in 457 BC, the year Artaxerxes .... decreed for Israel to finish building Jerusalem, Temple and "RESTORE' them to a Sovereign Nation; and also the 70 weeks probationary period for Jerusalem to put away transgressions would start at the same place: 457 BC...
... from there, Gabriel said it would be "seven weeks, threescore and two weeks (Dan. 9:25): 7+ 60 + 2 = 69 weeks to Anoint the Messiah.
Lets say Gabriel considered the "day for year principle" (found in Ez. 4:5,6 and Numbers 14:34), that would make 69 x 7 = 483 [days] or literal years....
Go from 457 BC , 483 years: 457 - 483 (cross from BC to AD or BCE to CE) = 26 AD, and since there is no year "0" between BC and AD, then the actual date is 27 AD ....
Jesus was Anointed with the Holy Spirit descending in the form of a dove in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar (Luke 3:1, 21,22); Since he began his reign alone in 12 AD, then we know that in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar, Jesus was Anointed in 27 AD... 483 years after 457 BC.
But 70 weeks were "determined" upon His people (Dan. 9:24) ...meaning there's 1 more week to go, in the "midst" (middle 3.5 years) of that week the Messiah would be cut off or Crucified and go 3.5 years later to finish the week brings us to 34 AD the year Stephen was stoned showing Israel had rejected the Messiah officially killing the Deacon of the newly formed Christian Church..... Their probation as God's Nation was over....
From there, the Apostles declared: "... since you put it from you.... lo we turn to the Gentiles..." Acts 13:46
All of these dates and events fall right in place... IF... we use God's "day for year" principle, but with out it, these dates fall apart.
Remember too, Dan. 8:14 says: "Unto 2,300 [days], then shall the Sanctuary be Cleansed."; This event begins from the same place that Gabriel gave to Daniel, 457 BC....
457 - 2,300 = 1843..... but again, there is no "0" year between BC and AD, so the actual date would be 1844.... the beginning of the Cleansing of the Sanctuary in Heaven.
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To your comment, yes we DO have business doing a "day for year" principle.... Gabriel, who was sent to give Daniel skill and understanding, showed us.
The daily sacrifice was taken away when the Anointed Messiah was Crucified - no more lamb sacrifices, for the True Lamb was Sacrificed.... once - no more daily sacrifice.
Notice how God showed us the end of the Sanctuary Services on earth..... look in the Temple when Jesus was Crucified (sacrificed):
"And, behold, the veil of the Temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom;
and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; " Matt. 27:51
The Most Holy Place in the Temple on earth, was now open to the gaze of any man..... whereas before, ONLY the High Priest could enter there and no man was allowed to go in or even look. But now the sacredness is gone, and Jesus the True Sacrifice - the True High Priest, goes to the True Tabernacle that God built in Heaven.
"A Minister of the Sanctuary, and of the TRUE Tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man." Heb. 8:2
@loren719 by your interpretation, Jesus was unable to clense the sanctuary in 31 AD. So he did not fulfill Daniel 9.
There is no reason to think Daniel 9 fits within Daniel 8. If anything the text says the opposite, if such a connection can even be made. The 2300 sacrifices are done within 1150 days. 1150 days fits inside of 490 years.
We also can read the text of Daniel 8, and figure out this prophecy has to be fulfilled by some event before Rome eliminated all the Greece kingdoms by 30 bc.
The prophecy says in verses 20 on down, that these prophecy has to do with Greece. No mention of Rome or another beast in Daniel 8. And the previous chapter 7 mentions 4 empires that exist before the stone destroys the statue.
So there is no mention of the 4th beast in chapter 8, just the transition from the 2nd to the 3rd. And the 4 kingdoms come out of Greece. And the little horn comes out of 1 of the 4 kingdoms that come from Greece.
So this little horn must appear and do these things in Daniel 8 before all the Greek kingdoms are eliminated by 30 bc by Rome. Or else Daniel is a false prophet.
@@chrislucastheprotestantview
You said:
" by your interpretation, Jesus was unable to clense [sic] the sanctuary in 31 AD. So he did not fulfill Daniel 9."
Answer:
Jesus was Anointed by the Holy Spirit in AD 27, 15th year of Tiberius Caesar (Luke 3:1,21,22)
The anointing of the high priest always preceded the Cleansing of the Sanctuary on the Day of Atonement:
"For on that day shall the priest make an ATONEMENT for you, to CLEANSE you,
that ye may be clean from all your sins before the LORD....
And the PRIEST whom he shall... ANOINT.... and whom he shall consecrate to minister
in the priest's office in his father's stead, shall make the ATONEMENT ...
And he shall make an ATONEMENT for the HOLY SANCTUARY, and he shall make an ATONEMENT
for the TABERNACLE of the congregation, and for the ALTAR, and he shall make an ATONEMENT for
the PRIESTS , and for ALL THE PEOPLE of the congregation. " Lev. 16:30-33
This "shadow" of the True Sanctuary Services in Heaven shows the Priest being Anointed before making Atonement for the Sanctuary and the people.
The 31AD, was: " ... in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease..." Dan. 9:27 or Jesus Crucified; By Christ's Crucifixion, the "daily sacrifices" cease, which is why we see the veil in the Temple being torn from top to bottom at the moment of His death (Matt. 27:51).... these "shadows' of the Sanctuary Services came to an end.
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You said:
"There is no reason to think Daniel 9 fits within Daniel 8. "
Answer:
Daniel couldn't understand the vision in Chp 8, and even got sick over it; In Chp 9 he remembers Jeremiah's prophecy of the 70 years in Babylon, and begins to pray confessing his sins and the sins of Israel.... as if hoping he can receive the same understanding for his vision as Jeremiah did for his.
Gabriel comes to Daniel in vs 21, and Daniel tells us, Gabriel was the one whom he had seen before the vision of the "little horn" and "desolation" and " the 2,300 [days]".
So... to all of these, Gabriel was sent to give Daniel Skill and understanding vs 22 ; Gabriel also mentioned that he was commanded to come as soon as Daniels supplications were heard.
Also, chp 9 makes it clear that it is an extension of the 2,300 [day] prophecy when the Sanctuary was to be Cleansed, when Gabriel said:
"... and to ANOINT the Most Holy .." 9:24 - Cleansing the Sanctuary WAS Anointing the Most Holy Place... and everything else.
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You said:
"The 2300 sacrifices are done within 1150 days. 1150 days fits inside of 490 years. "
Answer:
1150 days will fit in to anything over 1150 days; What we need to see is WHY there are 1150 days and WHY there are 490 years. As I showed you in my previous comment, 490 years is the "70 weeks" probationary period for Jerusalem to put away transgressions which when we follow Gabriel's instruction, would start at BC 457 taking us 490 years to AD 34, the year Stephen was stoned - the first Christian martyr.. signaling the end of Jerusalem's probation.
Most translations agree that 2,300 is either "days" or "even and mornings" both are the same. When we apply God's "day for year" principle (Ez. 4:5,6/ Num. 14:34) then it becomes 2,300 years, making all the dates and events in chp 9 align together showing us that yes, a "day for year" principle is used here, and yes - the starting date is BC 457.
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You said:
"We also can read the text of Daniel 8, and figure out this prophecy has to be
fulfilled by some event before Rome eliminated all the Greece kingdoms by 30 bc."
Answer:
Yes.... even the 4 great world empires: Babylon / Medo-Persia / Greece / Rome, show us that many events took place before Chp. 8
2,300 years takes us into the Roman Empire, where we saw that the Jews had to seek permission from Rome to Crucify our Savior.
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You said:
"And the previous chapter 7 mentions 4 empires that exist before the stone destroys the statue. "
Answer:
Correct.... the Stone ( Jesus our Rock) hits the toes, where we see the final days of the Roman Empire weakening as the ten ancient European nations began to rise.... iron and clay mixed.
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You said:
"... And the little horn comes out of 1 of the 4 kingdoms that come from Greece."
Answer:
The 4 "notable ones (horns) " were the Generals that ruled after Alexandar the great died : Antigonus, Casander, Lysimachos , Seleucus, Ptolemy; These are five, but history shows us that out of these 5 generals, Lysimachos did not receive a "cut" of the Empire... so that left only 4 generals to rule after Alexander. These are the "four notable [horns]" Dan. 8:8. ( see: factsanddetails.com/world/cat56/sub366/entry-6412.html )
* Note: Antiochus was born to Seleucus
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You said:
"So this little horn must appear and do these things in Daniel 8 before all the
Greek kingdoms are eliminated by 30 bc by Rome. Or else Daniel is a false prophet."
Answer:
Well.... Miller could've made the same deduction that if Jesus didn't come in 1844, then: "Daniel is a false prophet" ..... Daniel was not a false prophet and Miller misinterpreted what was to happen in Dan. 8:14
The Truth: 1844 is a Bible Prophecy, and Jesus DID "come" to the Sanctuary in Heaven to Cleanse it..... as the Prophet told us.
"Behold, I will send My messenger, and he shall prepare the way before Me:
and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly COME to HIs Temple, even the messenger of the Covenant,
whom ye delight in: behold, HE SHALL COME, saith the LORD of hosts." Malachi 3:1
1844, according to the Bible marks the beginning of the Cleansing of the Sanctuary in Heaven by the Antitypical High Priest - Jesus Christ.
Conclusion? We are in the last days, and His 2nd Coming is eminent.
I wish you Peace and God's Love this day!
@loren719 well your last point, you can't just say it happened in the mind of a 17 year old and claim the prophecy came true.
Miller never said on October 22 1844, that Jesus was going to enter the heavenly sanctuary, so no one ever interpreted that passage in that way. So you can't say "everyone read it to mean Jesus was going to just enter the holy of holy in heaven and start an investigation". Nope, that didn't get taught until after a failed bad misreading of Daniel 8, and Ellen had this vision. So you are trying to read her vision into the text and claim she is a prophet.
She, as a Sunday keeper, told 7th day baptists they had no hope of salvation. So even though the 7th day baptists kept all the commandments which any Christian can read the bible and see the sabbath was not done away with, a supposed "prophet" keeping Sunday is telling the faithful who keep the commandments that they are going to hell with her Shut Door doctrine.
And the day of atonement is not even October 22nd according to any jew. But you chose to believe a supposed karaite named E. S. Calman who kept days sunrise to sunrise. I have his letter to the Advent Herald.
Even if 10 of tishrei was in October instead of November, Cheshvan is started the same way Tishrei is, when you see the first sighted crescent. And 10 days later is not October 22.
But why are you basing your calculations on some guy claiming to be a jew, using a sunrise to sunrise day?
The main problem with Hellen g white was reading biblical materials from othe authors and declaring that it was God divine revelations. Well reading was ok if yu also refer to the Bible for self edification.
That's blasphemous and goes down as false prophet.
SDA has a different gospel...the 3 angels message & health ministry are their gospel.
So is half popular Christianity right now. From what I have heard there may be different emphasizes in their varoiy churches. Saturday was original Jewish teaching. So for doctrine not wrong there. Doesn't mean give up Sundays now. Don't get aberrant on this. The works issue. I detect may he there like others, a natural proclivity if not in doctrine, then in practise by many Christians. But I also think they teach both. Saved by grace, but proven out in works. So it subtly can become both. Then exclusive adherence to doctrines agreed on by a few and handed down. I an a very wide reader in a these issues after many years, and I am concerned witb our personal faith in Christ in our actual lives. That even more than some ideas superfluous to this devotion. I would rather have a deep abiding relationship with and in Christ. He is made wisdom unto us in the Holy Spirit. I ll share what I know alm around. But that's little compared to this one thing needful. A child can embrace this in their small but soft hearts. Praise God! As is said, if we have to know everything, before we do anything; when do we start.
@William Welch the gospel is 1 Cor 15. Jesus died for our sins (on the cross) was buried and rose from the dead on the third according to the scriptures you must believe this
Repent and believe
Jesus said unless you believe that I AM (he) you will die in your sins
@William Welch the Bible interprets Bible firstly 2nd the gospel is laid out specifically in 1 Cor 15. How are you supposed to win souls if you don't know this. My guess is you yourself have not experienced the new birth John 3:3
It is i.possible to keep the commandments this we have a savior. BTW he doesn't just cleanse past sins he cleanses all sin past present and future. How come all of you never say Jesus? My Bible says at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the Glory of God the Father
When the twin towers were falling a guy said to a group of people. All those who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved and they all shouted the name "Jesus" all died except the Christian who gave this testimony
Get saved
@@trixielane6885 You're right about the Name of Jesus, but to say: "all of you never say Jesus", is not true.
God's Church is clearly identified in Revelation: "Here are that that Keep the Commandments of God and THE FAITH OF JESUS." Rev. 14:12
This foundational SDA favorite, shows the relationship between Jesus and His Law.... and the true nature of His Church....
And especially this one: "And the dragon was wroth with the woman (God's Church) and went to make war with the Remnant of her seed,
which KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and have the TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST." Rev. 12:17
Again... the foundational identification marks of God's True or Remnant Church is: Keep the Commandments and Testimony of Jesus... these two flow harmoniously together in a true relationship with Jesus Christ.
I know you didn't mean to imply that only calling on the Name of Jesus saves us.... for we see the foolish sons of Sceva invoke the name of Jesus to cast out a demon, and the demon saw right through it: " And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?" Acts 19:15.... then the demon pounced on them and gleefully roughed them up real good.
I love that you reminded people to not forget about Jesus, for He IS our Savior and Friend.... and He has plainly said: "If you LOVE ME, Keep My Commandments." John 14:5
Jesus will Save us, but we must OPEN the door (Rev. 3:20) and let Him In our hearts, then He WILL come and Work in us.... that initial "opening of the door" is us responding to His Voice calling us to Follow Him and Obey Him....
When any man refuses to Obey Him, their usage of the Name of Jesus is just as foolish as the sons of Sceva.... the demons love it when we do that.
Jesus Loves you Trixie, and will keep you in His Peace - Love Him and Obey Him!
@@loren719 rev 12 and 14:12 is not the church albeit saints. Be honest please there are 2 separate groups in heaven those who have been singing the song of the redeemed. Who have their crowns and robes which are the righteous acts of the saints. And those who have been beheaded their souls are under the altar very alert. The do not come back with Jesus on white horses they don't get ressurrected until after Jesus comes back then they live and reign with Christ for a thousand years
You're right I did not imply. I quoted scripture that says all those who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
What did the thief say to Jesus he said remember me when you come into your kingdom. And Jesus said to him truly today you will be with me in paradise. When you believe Jesus. Guess what you get saved just like the thief on the cross. I really think you haven't experienced the new birth John 3:3. If the Holy spirit lives in you you would understand scripture
To the church - the gates of hell shall not prevail
To saints during the tribulation they are overcome and beheaded by the Antichrist. Since there are no contradictions in scripture. Can't you see two different groups of believers??
I know Jesus loves me I am the bride of Christ I have been born again john 3:3. I have been redeemed I have passed from death to life I am indwelt by the Holy Spirit my name is written in the lambs book of life I have already received eternal life all my sins are washed away.
Can you say the same?
Hate thrown at them? No, its not hate. remember the Bible says " love rejoices in TRUTH!" Is it love to not expose the false teachings on this church that could lead people into false security? They do not believe in hell, eternal punishment, even though the LORD JESUS says it exists. They believe in "soul sleep" you sleep in the grave, but God says "absent from the body, PRESENT WITH THE LORD" So WHO is your authority? Ellen g White ? Or THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. PERIOD . CHOOSE YE THIS DAY!
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AMEN !
He's wrong about what he calls the 2nd era, the "whole Christian age." Jesus never stopped being Jewish. Rather, a full reading of the Bible (both testaments, or "contracts") shows that Jesus explained the Jewish Feasts of the Lord to the world with his Death and Resurrection. He didn't end them, he brought their true meaning to them. Think about that word "contract" for a moment. The first contract was with circumcision. The promise of redemption for a year's worth of sins, through the blood of prescribed animals, was only available to those who were circumcised and their households. The second contract was clarified during the council at Jerusalem, after Jesus went back to Heaven. The disciples discussed it at length, took a vote, and proclaimed that circumcision was no longer a valid means of discrimination when it came to the offer of salvation through Jesus, who they felt was the Messiah who the lambs, under the previous contract with God, had merely symbolized. Their blood was just a hold-over, until Jesus came and fulfilled (completed) their purpose.
While circumcision was no longer the requirement to be able to be saved, and the lambs were no longer required either, that never meant that Jesus, nor the disciples, stopped being Jewish. They didn't eschew Judaism, nor did he, or else this discussion in Jerusalem would never have taken place, and the requirement of circumcision would never have been a topic to discuss. It would have merely been assumed that circumcision wasn't necessary, because they would all have considered themselves to be non-Jews once Jesus had died and rose again, and would have started calling themselves Jesus-ites or something (Christ is a Greek word, not Hebrew nor Aramaic), as the name of their different religion.
The first disciples during and after Jesus' death were considered by the Jews of that day to just be another extreme Jewish sect, nothing more. There were dozens of those sects during those days, and really, this was seen as no big deal. The only reason his sect even drew attention at all was because his claim to be the Son of God and King of the Jews was in direct opposition to the authority of Herod. Had he not made these claims, he wouldn't have been crucified, nor even put on trial, and his sect would have run its natural course, like all the others - very likely only lasting for "this generation" (his generation) and then quietly dying out, being replaced by even more Jewish sects over time (until the sacking of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., which wouldn't even be known as that number and denotation, in that alternate timeline). But they would have all still been called Jewish to this day, even though his teachings and healings would have all remained the same as before.
This all matters because we have neo-Nazis going around hating on Jews and saying "Jews will not replace us." My response? "A Jew already did."
Jeremiah 31:31-33 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2Corithains 3:3-11 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
So tell me why you say the laws are done away with?
The laws were given to the nation of Israel. The Old Covenant.
Romans 9:4
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
The stone tablets are long gone.
2 Corinthians 3:3-11 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
We have a new covenant. The New Testament!
The new covenant is with the house of Israel and the house of Judah.
John 1:17
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Jeremiah 31:31-33 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Galatians 3
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Galatians 3:11
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Seventh Day Adventists do not keep the whole law.
Galatians 5
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
You will be judged harshly because you are well aware that Ellen White was a false teacher and a false prophetess, yet you refuse to repent and follow Jesus Christ. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."
@@jlewis8145
Christains (those in the new covenant) are the Israel of God.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. {Galatians 3:28-29}
Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ*
For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN, so making peace;
And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby*
And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God;
[The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun]
{Ephesians 2:11-19}
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
{Acts 10:34-35}
Again...
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
For there is no respect of persons with God.
{Romans 2:10-11}
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel:
Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but *the children of the promise* are counted for the seed.
{Romans 9:6-8}
Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
{Galatians 4:28-29}
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and
upon 👉the Israel of God.
{Galatians 6:15-16}
@@larrybedouin2921 It is interesting how you need to add to holy scripture. "Christ abolished the law, just not the ten commandments."
It is a sin to add to God's word.
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain ONE NEW MAN, so making peace;
@@jlewis8145
Just making it clear for those without understanding who twist the word of God even to their own destruction.
@@jlewis8145
"Ordnances" are never used for God's commandments. Obviously you needed the context to distinguish this truth.
They expose themselves since the SDA's inception through erroneous doctrines. Not only that the very use of the term is erroneous. There is only one church which is the body of Christ, the body of believers. Everything else is an impersonator.
Amen brother!!! 💜
You said:
"... SDA's inception through erronious [sic] doctrines
There is only one church which is the body of Christ, the body of believers.
Everything else in an imposter."
Answer:
How would you define a "believer" in Christ?
For the devils believe.... yet they are waiting their day in hell fire. (James 2:19, Rev. 20:10)
So.... in your understanding, what is the difference between devils who believe and we who believe?
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Many, as yourself, think SDA doctrines are false or "erroneous" but I have found that typically, these are not as familiar with their Bibles as they believe.
I have found the SDA Church to be a Bible based, Christian Church.... especially with EGW's writings - for contrary to popular criticisms, she does not replace or contradict scriptures.
God's Peace to you my friend!
@@loren719 I've read enough of EGW writings to know they are not inspired by the Spirit. My thoughts were that she was just a nice person, without the knowledge of the Spirit.
The church is the body of Christ, the body of believers who are obedient to the Holy Spirit.
Eph 1:13, 'And when you heard the word of truth (the gospel of your salvation)-when you believed in Christ-you were marked with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit.'
Eph 4:30, 'And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.'
1 John 3:19-24, 'This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence: If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything. Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.' Cheers in Christ, our only hope.
@@loren719 perhaps I didn't make clear the context of my first comment. It is that the church is the people - believers. Just as it is not a building, the church is also not an entity such as the Baptist church and every and any other name. Yes, the church, through the prostitute, which is Christendom, has been deluded to think that a building is a church, and which was copied from the old temple building and alter, these things which are not valid in the church.
The church is the sum of believers, which include those from the denominations - Baptist, SDA etc, if they truly believe.
The church is, therefore not divided by invalid names and false concepts. There is one faith, one church, one Saviour. 'Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?' 1 Cor 1:13. In other words; Was the SDA entity crucified for you? Were you baptised in the name of the SDA? All these entities are divisions concocted by man. They are not the church any more than a building can be a church. Cheers
@@robertcain3426
Thanks for sharing the wonderful passages: Eph. 1:13/ 4:30 / 1 John 3:19-24 / 1 Cor. 1:13 .... But what do these have to do with EGW's inspiration? She cherished these verses.
I agree that God's Church is a body of believers in Christ, and SDA's started out as believers from other Churches and saw the Biblical neglect of God's Seventh Day Sabbath, and the denial of the Prophet Daniel Prophecy (Dan. 8:14) guided by Gabriel, to pin point the Last Days with the final phase of Atonement and Christ's Heavenly Ministry as our Great High Priest to Cleanse the Sanctuary in Heaven, making it clear the 2nd Advent (coming) Of Jesus is now imminent... not "day and hr" , but imminent.
Because of William Millers "mistake" that Dan. 8:14 spoke of Christ's 2nd Coming, many believers shrank away and threw out this Bible Prophecy.... the five founders took to study and prayer to find the "mistake" and uphold His Word, specifically this Bible Prophecy in Dan. 8:14.
This body of believers - the SDA Church holds what John called in Revelation: "The Everlasting Gospel " Rev. 14:6,7 - God's Judgment and His Sabbath.
There are Many Faith based, Christ Loving believers in the SDA Church... and the 5 founders were certainly no exception - they Loved Jesus with all their hearts and dedicated their lives to serving Him!
Thank you for taking the time to talk to me... may God Bless you!
God is Love!
Hebrews 9. Depends on which translation you use. Big diference between holy and most holy.
Where was the presence of God in the earthly sanctuary ? Wasn't it in the most holy place where god presence dwell?
Tell me why scriptures reiterates Upon Christ ascension he to sit at the RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER.
WHICH HIGHPRIEST IN THE EARTHLY SANCTUARY SAT ? NONE BECAUSE THEIR SACRIFICES WERE CONTINUOUS.
CHRIST WHEN HE DRANK THE VINEGAR SAID IT IS FINISHED.
WHY WAS THE VEIL TORN IN TWO?
HOW COME WE NOW HAVE DIRRECT ACCESS TO THE FATHER?
WHICH SCRIPTURES SAYS CHRIST IS PERFORMING CONTINUOUS ATONEMENT FOR US IN HEAVEN?
IS CHRIST A SINFUL LEVITICAL HIGHPRIEST ?
U SDA'S CLAIM U FOLLOW BIBLE TUTH BUT UR DILLUSIONAL. UR BIBLE TRUTH IS VIEWED THROUGH THE LENS OF ELLEN G WHITE.
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Yes, God’s throne is in the Most Holy heaven and Jesus went to His side at His ascension not in 1844 as the Adventist teach.
@@charnelallan7159 TheShekinah glory , the presence of God the Father was always in the Most Holy second compartment.
@@olgaburgos7780SO WHERE DOES 1844 SANCTUARY DOCTRINE WHERE CHRIST WENT INTO THE MOST HOLY PLACE😮
@@charnelallan7159
I'm not sure why you got 4 "likes" to your questions... you gave questions but no answers.
Lets answer a couple of your questions and if you're still interested, I'll do some more.
You asked:
"WHY WAS THE VEIL TORN IN TWO?"
Answer:
This account is found in Matt. 27:50,51.... when Jesus died on the Cross, the veil in the Temple was torn from top to bottom.... the reason should be Biblically self evident: Jesus is NOW the Sacrifice - the Lamb of God, and no more sacrifices are necessary for instead of offering a lamb, we look to Jesus the TRUE Lamb / also Jesus NOW becomes the TRUE High Priest in Heaven - the earthly sanctuary is no longer sacred.... for this sanctuary and it's ceremonial services with it's animal sacrifices were mere "SHADOWS" pointing us to Christ:
"We have such an High Priest, who is set on the Right Hand
of the Throne of the Majesty in the Heavens;
A Minister of the Sanctuary, and of the TRUE TABERNACLE,
which the Lord pitched, and not man. " Hebrews 8:1,2 KJV
What happened to the sacrifices and the sanctuary on earth - "SHADOWS" ?
"For if He were on earth, He should not be a priest, seeing that
there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Who serve unto the Example and SHADOW of Heavenly things... " verses 4,5
That is why the veil in the temple was torn in half, for the "shadows" met the TRUE in Christ Jesus - "type" met "antitype' - the earthly ceremonies and sacrifices are done
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You asked:
"WHICH SCRIPTURES SAYS CHRIST IS PERFORMING
CONTINUOUS ATONEMENT FOR US IN HEAVEN"
Answer:
When Aaron went into the Most Holy Place in the temple on earth, on the day of Atonement, he brought the blood of the lamb into the Most Holy Place and sprinkled it on the ark of the covenant (Lev. 16: 27)... this act was atonement for the sanctuary and for the people.
This is exactly what the TRUE High Priest does with His own Blood in the TRUE Sanctuary in Heaven:
"Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own Blood He entered in once into the Holy Place,
having obtained Eternal Redemption for us." Heb. 9:12 KJV
This Blood of Jesus was "obtained" on the Cross, where He purchased our Pardon; He, then, goes into the Most Holy Place in the TRUE Tabernacle or Sanctuary in Heaven with His Own Blood .... just like the shadow in Lev. 16:27 shows us.
I'll stop here.... If you'd like me to answer more, then let me know and I would be happy to.
God Loves you, @charnelallan7159 !
Matthew 18:23-34 clearly shows a parable by Jesus of a servant that was forgiven his tremendous debt but afterwards his debt return on him because he did not forgive others. It’s not once saved always saved.
_It’s not once saved always saved._
Maybe you don't understand the real meaning and character of someone who is truly saved.
If Jesus is your all, you are truly saved
If your sabbath keeping is your all, you ARE NOT saved.
Revelation 3:5 refers to the book of life in which the names of believers in the Lord are found. These are those who overcome the trials of earthly life, proving that their salvation is genuine.
Revelation 3:5
The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels.
This verse also makes it clear that once a name is written in the book of life, Jesus promises that He will never blot it out, proving once more the doctrine of eternal security. The Lord Jesus, who is speaking to the churches in this part of Revelation, promises to acknowledge his own before His Father.
@@jlewis8145 Revelation 3:5 says indeed that he that OVERCOMETH, I will not blot his name out.
With this statement it indicates that if you don’t overcome or turn back from the path off righteousness, like the dog returning to its vomit 2 pet 2:22, your name will be blotted out.
“Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.” Psalm 69:28
Revelation 3:5 does not say that The Lord will NEVER blot our names out btw. I do agree thought that He will never blot my name out once I am sealed in my forehead. Ezekiel 9:4
And the parable that I brought up in Matthew still stands. The servant was forgiven his debt but afterwards his debt returned onto him because of his actions.
@@smitsidney7812 I have already been sealed.
Ephesians 1:13
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
I know for sure that when I did I will be with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. There will be no soul sleep for me. 2 Cor. 5:8
To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
"For me to live is Christ and to die is gain." Phil. 1:21
Ezekiel 9:4 was written to Ezekiel and in turn the nation of Israel.
It is not a good idea to take verses out of context and apply them to yourself.
I already have eternal life.
John 10
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Daniel 9 explains Daniel 8:14. Daniel could not understand the 2300 days until it is shown in Daniel 9. So it is not understood as two separate different biblical texts but ar linked. The gospel is saved by grace but judged by our works. The books are open. Rev.20:12 and names written in the book of life Daniel 12:1-13. and Eccl. 12:14. Judgment is present in the gospel. Gospel is good news cause Jesus is our advocate and judge. Perfect Christian character is is totally possible 2Peter 1:3-4 and we can overcome totally by the power of the Holy Spirit. Revelation speaks to that 7 times in Chapters 2 and 3, The only lie being told is by the devil who says no one can overcome and Jesus says it differently.
BOT ACCOUNT 👆👆👆
Read the book of James please!
Works are the evidence of our faith.
You need to keep the law perfectly to get into heaven.
Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect.
Have you been made perfect?
@@jlewis8145 I could never be worthy with out Jesus. Nobody could without his love. Jesus is perfect in the law . It is his perfect sacrifice that saves his people. Those who believe in him and keep his comments. All of them. Who gives anyone the right to say I can break even just one? Not God. It is him alone who will be the judge. Nobody else is qualified
@@alfredperez5374 We are no longer under the law. Jesus fulfilled the law.
God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Leviticus 23 and Acts 2
God requires perfection to get into heaven.
Have you kept the commandments perfectly?
Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect.
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet offend in one point he is guilty of all.
@@alfredperez5374
Why do you follow the teachings of a false prophetess?
Why do you follow the teachings of a woman?
I Corinthians 14
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
@@jlewis8145 I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Each day is new each day I try to love all my neighbors and pray for his spirit to guide me. All have the potential to change. All can have the Holy spirit if they choose. I can never take the job from He who can read the heart of all people. He is the only True Judge of men.
" For God shall bring every work into judgment with every secret thing whether it be good or whether it be evil." Ecclesiastes 12 : 14.
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Judgment will come for the lost for sure but the saved will have no sins to be judged for, Jesus washed them away and are no more, they will be wearing the righteous robe of Jesus.
Romans 8:1,2. “There is therefore no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. For the law of the Sirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.✝️📖❤️🙏 Good News!
Romans 4: 7,8 Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been covered. Blessed is the man whose sins the Lord will not take into account. Blessed assurance!
YES BUT WHERE IS THE WIRD INVESTIGATION HERE? AN INVESTIGATION BY A GOD WHO IS OMNIPRÉSENT AND OMNISCIENT ?😮
The saved are not under judgment but the sinners will be and punished.( not for an eternity).
You people tripping. 🤔 We grew up around Sunday churches. Was also exposed to the New Age movement. Got caught up in the vices prevalent in housing projects in d.c. Saturday's were a high sports day for playing and watching. When some young ladies I met while hanging out in Georgetown DC, told me they were seventh-day Adventist, I thought they went to church 7 days a week. They invited me out to the then Columbia Union College. This was in the early 70s. I studied their literature and checked out this mysterious Ellen G White woman who I likened to Jean Dixon, an prove to them the Sabbath day was not Saturday; and Ellen White was a witch. I was baptized in 1974 and the rest is history. You people are spending a tremendous amount of energy to tear down the wall. All this is going to get you is an appointment on the hot seat, and jumping around with hot feet.🔥🔥
Your "check out" of EGW was obviously very shallow. But hey, thats the majority of the psuedo-protestant world. Shallow.
God's remnan people are those who keep the COMANDEMENTS of God and the testimony of JESUS... apokal 12:17
Those who Atact Seventday Adventis Church because Thy are Inspire by Satan to expres his angry 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
It’s Jesus Himself who has BROKEN the Sabbath.
JOHN 5:18
“Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only HAD BROKEN THE SABBATH, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.”
Jesus had broken the Sabbath, and He was persecuted and killed by those Sabbath keepers Jews.
Now, you have to choose which one you should follow,
You have to choose, Jesus that have broken the Sabbath ?
Or the Sabbath Worshippers that killed Jesus?
If you side with the murderers, then you are not of God but of the children of the devil.
As what Jesus told the Sabbath worshippers Jews that do not believe in Him.
JOHN 8:44
“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”
Matthew 5:17 Jesus said, Do not think I come to abolish the Law or the prophets,I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them
5 - 29 - 24
On the Sabbath
"" My Father WORKETH hitherto and I WORK.......""
John 5 : 16
5 - 29 - 24
On the Sabbath
"" For this reason the Jews
( Sabbath keepers ) tried all the more to take his life, because he NOT ONLY BROKE the Sabbath but he also called God his own Father,making himself EQUAL with GOD ""
John 5 : 18
Then why don’t you keep the feasts? New moon?
I honestly sympathise with your understanding of this text.
They (SDA) haven't anything but worry everyday about the Sabbath..
Why would we have worry? When we can put our full trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. We can always trust in him. The Sabbath is the Holy day of rest. God asked us to remember this. worry is not restful.
This is where you are wrong. Most sda's know they are saved by Christs' death and resurrection. Jesus has paid the price for their redemption. There is nothing for them to worry about.
@@JohnSmith-gy4qj it is not the first or the last time I will be wrong. Tho I am a baptized SDA myself.
Why u let it bother you?
@@russelldunn9195 I don't. I fully believe in him.
I can’t help but wonder why we need to go to 40 + year old tapes of former and already discredited SDA theologians to make a point. Both of these men have long passed and we’re discredited by the church at the time this tape was made. They do not represent SDA theology now or at the time this tape was made. The distortions of SDA beliefs here are many.
Do you know for sure, if you were to die today, where you would spend eternity?
Have you ever read the Bible 'without' the lenses of an ism? You would never fall for any of them. Be a good Berean stick to the Bible to determine if a doctrine is true...we don't stick to a man-made doctrine when the Bible clearly teaches in opposition to it with even ONE verse. Ellen White had many failed prophecies, she lied to her followers when writing books containing pages and pages of written material from another writer claiming to be inspired by God. When she wrote of God's Truth, that was good. But far too much was purely EW.
Read 1 Cor 1 and follow Paul's advice.
Keep your eyes on Jesus Christ and HIS Doctrines, His Ways, His Truth.
No where does the Bible teach Jesus and Satan were brothers, that's heretical.
No where does the Bible teach about IJ, Investigative Judgment...that's EW's way of saving face for false prophecy of 1844 (yr?) Jesus never came.
When you look through the eyes of any ism your mind plays tricks on you...why do you think Jesus often said ' the blind lead the blind'?
I pray you and those you love will step into the True Gospel of Jesus Christ, let your mind, heart and soul be illuminated with His Truth...no man nor woman is going to lead you closer to Christ than being committed one on one with Him
@@jlewis8145
I've seen you ask this same question to others.... are you under the impression that SDA's don't know if they're Saved or not??
Did you know that there are many Sunday Keepers who don't know if they're Saved or not ??
I mean, this is a question that Many professed Christians are uncomfortable with, but you, however, seem to believe that it only makes SDA's uncomfortable....
well that is not so;
The Truth is..... Born again SDA's have every assurance, through Bible Promises, that they will be Saved as they daily walk with Jesus;
In Christ, we have no Fear of God's Judgment for we KNOW where we stand with Jesus!!
Notice:
" Herein is our Love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the Day of Judgment:
because as He is, so are we in this world." 1 John 4:17
and...
"... but perfect Love casteth out fear, " verse 18
Praise God for the Gift of His Dear Son!! Wouldn't you say so, ljewis8145?
Let me ask you a questions: Do you Love Jesus?
SDA face the truth the truth hurts, whatever is now covered up will be uncovered and every secret will be made known. Jesus Christ the only way to God the Father Almighty
Jesus pointed to me that the Sabbath is the true day of worship, l will continue worshipping God in His Holy day., regardless often confusion.
Amen!
Bottom line,.God has the final verdict. In the New Heaven and New Earth.We will be worshipping God.
Isaiah 66:22-23 KJV
For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. [23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
I am looking forward to worship God on His Holy Day The Sabbath Day "The Seventh Day."
Present the passage for once.
@@nicetry620which Jesus?
Sda cult exposed
Even if we or an angel from heaven preach any other Gospel that what we preached let him be accursed including godess egw Shame on the devil
Be informed that we can we test the spirits and you are only shedding darkness. "To the LAW and the TESTIMONY; if they speak not according to this WORD, it is because there is no LIGHT in them"
Isaiah 8:20
Thank you for exposing yourself.
That's specifically what Ellen G White did
Galatians 1:6-9
Preach the word if you choose to preach and win souls for the kingdom and stop watch denomination.
Sadly we need denominational guidance. But we need to read the Bible to choose which one Jesus would approve of.
God is love. Those who teach to Love GOD and love others are good churches.
1. The law is not done away with it is established. Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. 1 John 3:4 whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 2Corithians 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
2. The law does not save. Its job is to define sin. Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Read Romans 6 and Ephesians 2
3. Love leads us to follow the law. Jesus and Paul list’s directly six of the Ten Commandments. Romans 13:8-10 Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Love fulfills the law.
Romans 13:8-10
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 5:27,28 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Ephesians 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;)
SAMUEL WILLIAMS is a bot account⚠️☝️ that can't debate the SDA statements of beliefs...
It will present a sources or two from Wikipedia or scripture but crashes when presented with a challenge to debate the SDA statements of beliefs and the contradictions that over shadow the church...
It will then began repeating the same thing over and over making baseless claims without any form of justification through sources..
It's programed to constantly comment a few things about the Sabbath... and the other comments are all the same over and over .....God loves you, why tell lies".....
It can't comprehend a legitimate debate about the SDA church through multiple sources...
@@nicetry620 Thanks for this statement
No wonder he runs like a dog when questioned.
Jesus is enough .
Not for us to continue in sin; keep God's Word & His 10 Commandments; & nit the Commandments of mankind before God. God Bless & guide you.
The two Commandments Jesus is referring to is His 10 Commandments broken in half. The 1st part is how to love Him & the 2nd is how we should love each other. Don't be fooled by amyone!
@William Welch sounds holy and rightous to add any law beond love and as i was a former assistant pastor of sda church after removed for drinking coffie free from sda ware food distubution house and delivering to refugees and poor and well respected by the poor preaching the cross and gospel of love The True church dont thow a true christian out of ministry over coffie drinking caught out in ministry as that is a petty pathetic false relegious works false relegion to do so. I choose ministry as a gracevoreacher now and enjoy my coffie without fear shame and guilt.
1 Corinthians 6:1-3,5-20 KJV
Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? [2] Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? [3] Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? [5] I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? [6] But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. [7] Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? [8] Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. [9] Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. [11] And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. [12] All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. [13] Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body. [14] And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power. [15] Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. [16] What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. [17] But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. [18] Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. [19] What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? [20] For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
@William Welch strong messege tho anyone that says is without sin is a lier the bible says. But in spirit and in christ rightousness we are not sinning. Christ is the law fulfilled within us not one jot or jittle done away except animal sacrifice. Tho the law of love covers it all. If ye love me jesus said keep his commandments possible by the enabling power of the holyghost that is and becomes our strength to do so..... bless you William.
@@sardotabil6347 yes true but not by our own strength or rightousness but entered into christ rightousness made whole and perfect tho we still sin when in the fallen condition as anyone says is without sin is a lier the bible says. Tho not to make lifestyle of sin as that is cursed sin. I knew SDA couple not married for years loved and embraced by the church living in sin then they finally married and he became a pastor a great man of god. Be careful not to judge Sardo and take the speck out of your own eye as only god knows the intent of their hearts. The law of love covers it all and if ye love me jesus said live my commandments tho enabling power of the holyghost is and becomes our strength to do so and not by our own efforts always. Mary magnalene never returned to prostitution and go away and sin no more tho in reality proberbly did commit many little sins after that. Be so busy loving for no time to judge. We judging in heaven or judging those being sentenced to heaven or hell as the books of life open up will not be among the self rightous on earth squeeky clean without blemish as all are sinners but the holy levels of the sanctury within can be improoved apon even by some efforts but mainly with gods help but avoid becomming a rightous pharisee in the process. Do not even condem people to hell who are wandering after the mark of the beast sunday roman law for even many of those pure in heart will have their just reward even heaven for indeed the pure i heart shall see god who come unto the cross of jesus christ amen.
I'm thinking of becoming a Adventist. I don't see a cult at all. They know there bible so well and they are into God every day not just Saturdays. All. This hate being thrown at them only makes me want to pick the Adventist church as my church on this investigation.
This is the work of evil, REV.12:17 -- THIS IS THE TRUTH, THE REASON..
I know the Bible far better than any Seventh Day Adventist.
If you were to read the Bible as a child, you would never come up with the teachings of the SDA church.
There is no hate.
Where does the Bible say that God is not omniscient and must do an 'Investigative Judgment' to determine those who are saved?
Where does the Bible say that Jesus will return on April 23, 1843?
Where does the Bible say that Jesus will return on March 21, 1844?
Where does the Bible say that Jesus will return on October 22, 1844?
Where does the Bible say that the 2300 days is actually years?
Where does the Bible say that the 2300 days/years started in 457 BC?
Where does the Bible say that the mark of the beast is keeping the Sabbath?
Where does the Bible say that the door to heaven was shut on October 22, 1844 and that Seventh Day Adventists will not get into heaven?
"From the ascension, to the shutting of the door, Oct., 1844, Jesus stood with widespread arms of love, and mercy; ready to receive and plead the cause of every sinner, who would come to God by him." A Word to the Little Flock, 1847, p.2.
It is clear from this last quotation that the shutting of the door in October, 1844 meant that Jesus NO LONGER "stood with widespread arms of love, and mercy; ready to receive and plead the cause of every sinner..." That is what James White considered to be the meaning of "shut door." In an extensive article in The Present Truth, May 1850, he dealt in great detail with the subject, especially on the shut door. In that article he says, page 79:
"From the best light we could then obtain from the autumnal types we were very confident that the days would end at the seventh month.... When we came up to that point of time, all our sympathy, burden and prayers for sinners ceased, and the unanimous feeling and testimony was, that our work for the world was finished for ever."
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@@jlewis8145 amen totally agree with you brother
Sda church divided as some struct to ellen whites teachings and others not and i was not when a pastor yet removed from mininistry for regular coffie drinking on my missions to help the poor in delivering from sda food ware house that included crates off milk coffie that i drank with the refugee families to caught out. Petty pathetic my ministry ended over coffie just like when a mormon priest. Cult relegions do that petty nonsence
@@darrylkirky God bless you.
Hey brother Ankerberg, you did not expose Adventist church as false church, by comparing it to Sola Scritura rule, you only exposed your own worship of Sunday as being false Sabbath. Find for us and cite it, where in Bible did Jesus/God command or initiate transfer of holiness from Sabbath to Sunday. No feeble justifications like: "Well...we worship Sunday because Jesus resurrected on Sunday, and started the worship anew"..Non-sense!. Show us in the Bible where did Jesus say that. Paul worshiped ONLY on Sabbaths 40 years after Jesus ascention. If Jesus has changed Sabbath worship to Sunday worship, wouldn`t he have informed Paul about that - in 40 years of directing him what to write for our spiritual counsells. So by your own rule Sola Scritura, you condemned your self John as not living by the same rule.
The only thing brainwashed sda's can speak on😏 sabbath, sabbath, sabbath....
Let's just forget about the SDA statements of beliefs and how Ellen G White the false prophet has authority EQUAL to scripture over the sda church
God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Leviticus 23 and Acts 2
Why do you follow the false prophecies of a woman?
Women are to be silent in the church, yet your church is based on the teachings of a woman?
Paul did not worship on the Sabbath.
He went into the synagogues to reason with the Jews.
Do you do that? Why not?
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The 'Investigative Judgment' is one of the most blasphemous teachings of the SDA church. You should be ashamed of it. You make Jesus Christ look like an idiot. Jesus Christ is not a CSI agent trying to figure out who will be saved and who won't be saved.
1. God already knows who are His own - SDAs teach that God must make an investigation to determine whose names to keep in the Book of Life, and whose to blot out. The Bible teaches that God already knows who the righteous are:
I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep? (John 10:14)
The Lord knoweth them that are His. (2 Tim. 2:19)
2. The Bible is very clear that God already knows exactly who is righteous and who is not. He does not need to carry out any 'investigation' to determine who the righteous are.
God Knows Everything - One of the attributes of God's nature is "omniscience" which means that God knows everything that is possible to know. There is nothing that God does not already know.
Known unto God are all His works from the beginning of the world. (Acts 15:18)
Can any hide himself in secret, that I shall not see him? Saith the Lord. Do not I fill heaven and earth? Saith the Lord. (Jer. 23:24)
The word of God is living and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. And there is no creature that is not manifest in His sight; but all things are naked and laid open to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do. (Heb. 4:12,13)
O Lord, Thou hast searched me, and known me. Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising. Thou understandest my thought afar off. Thou searchest out my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways. For there is not a word in my tongue, but lo, O Lord, Thou knowest it altogether. (Ps. 139:1-4)
Jesus did not commit Himself unto them, because He knew all men, and needed not that any should testify of man; for He knew what was in man. (John 2:24)
Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray Him. (John 6:64)
In 1844, God already knew everyone that was saved. In fact, before the world even existed He already knew the exact list of which humans would be saved and which ones would be lost. Why would God need to "investigate" something He has known since before the dawn of time?
3. When are sins blotted out? - The SDA Church teaches the sins of the righteous are not blotted out until after the Investigative Judgment.
The Bible teaches that our sins are blotted out when we repent:
I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee. (Isaiah 44:22)
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. (Acts 3:19)
and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 1 John 1:7
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Seventh-day Adventists teach the following regarding the Investigative Judgment:
1. Christ moved from the Holy Place to the Most Holy Place in the heavenly sanctuary on October 22, 1844, and began a new phase of ministry. This ministry was foreshadowed by the Levitical Day of Atonement (Lev. 16:16-33).
2. The first phase of the "Day of Atonement" is called the "cleansing of the Sanctuary." It involves a pre-Advent investigation and judging of God's people to determine whose sins will be removed from the Sanctuary. Christ started this judgment in 1844, beginning with Adam and Eve and progressing chronologically down through the ages, judging all of the dead believers.
At some point, near the end of time, Christ will begin judging living believers. During this Investigative Judgment God either blots out the sins of the believer, or he removes the name of the believer from the Book of Life.
As during the typical Day of Atonement the cleansing of the earthly sanctuary removed the sins accumulated there, so the heavenly sanctuary is cleansed by the final removal of the record of sins in the heavenly books. But before the records are finally cleared, they will be examined to determine who through repentance and faith in Christ is entitled to enter His eternal kingdom.
The cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary, therefore involves a work of investigation or judgment that reflects the nature of the Day of Atonement as a day of judgment. This judgment, which ratifies the decision as to who will be saved and who will be lost.
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So your so called SHABBAT is simply going to an SDA church on Saturday's and telling like minded people "" Happy Sabbath ! ""
Many believe are laws are binding apart from the Sabbath, but why they want to defend their error
Romans 10:4
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Very good, Christ kept the law and showed us how to keep it, he ended the penalty of the law on the cross which was eternal death, and resurrected to assure us of resurrection after death.
Therefore the scripture means that the law points us to Christ, because he says if you love me keep my commandments
John 14:15
@@mwanjeemmanuel5866 There are 53 commands of Christ in the New Testament. Interestingly, not one of them says to keep the Sabbath.
Please read your Bible as a child without the help of your church.
Commands can be said and expressed by actions, Jesus's actions and words spoke the same way,
Luke 4:16 it was his custom to go to the synagogue on the Sabbath dat
@@mwanjeemmanuel5866 Jesus Christ was under the law, so he kept the Sabbath. Even Paul went into the temple on the Sabbath to reason with the Jews.
Do you go into your local synagogue on Saturday to reason with Jewish people?
The promise of salvation by Jesus is conditional.
Forgiveness is promised to those who ENDURE to the end.
If someone who accepts Jesus should turn back to his old ways his sins will not be forgiven.
Read Ezekiel -- if someone does good all his life but turns to evil at the end , his good will not be remembered.
And if someone who does evil all his life but turns to doing good at the end , his evil will not be. remembered.
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Going to an SDA church on Saturday's and telling like minded people "" Happy Sabbath ! " doesn't mean by default you are KEEPING and OBEYING ALL the LAW of ALL the Commandments of God
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What about the other NINE Commandments ?
Have you ever sinned?
@@porfiriojohn5276Christians are to keep all 10
Adventists highlight the Saturday Sabbath because this is the Commandment that professed Christians are openly violating. There is no need to highlight the other 9.
Hundred percent wrong, Desmond ford was wrong,and all those who followed him,should study the Bible on their own.
D. M. Canright wrote in Seventh-day Adventism Renounced -
The number of their actual converts does not tell the harm they do. Where they convert one they confuse a score, who after that have no settled faith in any church, and are useless for any Christian work. Other conscientious persons are bothered and worried over it for years, not knowing what to do.
A statement from over a hundred years ago that holds true to this day.
Come to Christ 🙏
Yes people wish to choose an easy way to heaven. Not one where we are to walk in love of God and love of others. I hear a lot of accusations but no proof.
Love leads us to follow the law. Jesus and Paul list’s directly five of the Ten Commandments. Romans 13:8-10 Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Ephesians 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;) 2Corithians 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. 4. Most people agree with the first three as they being sins. Of the other four all will admit that it is a sin to have other gods, bow down and worship idols and to take the name of GOD in vain. Protestant Ministers have stated the Ten Commandments are for Christians. dedication.www3.50megs.com/greatmen.html Great Preachers on the Ten Commandments. John Calvin taught extensively on the Ten Commandments In this way it will be made more clear, that the worship which God originally prescribed is still in force,… 10commandments.biz/biz/john_calvin_and_ten_commandments.phtml John Calvin: Here I think it will not be out of place to introduce the Ten Commandments of the law with a short explanation of them. Thus, the point I have touched upon will also be made clearer: that the public worship that God once prescribed is still in force. www.monergism.com/explanation-moral-law-ten-commandments-john-calvin en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments Wikipedia
So No adultery, No killing, no stealing, No lying. No Coveting. Then Honor our parents. So do you believe worshipping idols and and no other gods. Is okay? That is your logic on the Sabbath. So is taking the name of GOD in vain okay?
@@samuelwilliams1559
Hahahaha 😂 NO! We are not going to play your game!
ROMANS 10:13 Anyone who calls on the name of the LORD is Saved!
YES PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!
You will be Saved just by Believing as Abraham did!
Ignore the Children of the Burnt Over District with their lies and twisting of Scripture. Turn from the Spirit of Error that is EGWitless!
DM Canright also wrote -
"Who is Deceived?
Seventh-day Adventists dwell much on how easy it is to be deceived, to be led by Satan, when we think it is the Lord - to believe a lie for the truth. It is amusing to see how innocently they apply this to all others, and never dream that is has any application to themselves! What, THEY deceived? THEY misled? Impossible! They KNOW they are right. Exactly, and that is just the way all feel, whether they be Mormons, Shakers, Catholics, or what not. The Adventists themselves are an illustration of the ease with which people are misled."
Come to the True Jesus 🙏
Acts 2:21 🕊️
@@nicetry620 I have only been Samuel Williams. YOur lies shows that you do not respect the truth. The hate speech sadly shows who you are.
I pray you choose to stop lying and disagree if you have real points. Jesus loves you. I ask you to walk in love Please.
@@nicetry620 Yes I use Wikipedia. Since you never proved it wrong. No problem.
@@samuelwilliams1559 Stop lying!
Examine your heart and turn to Christ. 🕊️
Oh Ellen White. How many millions of people will be saved because of the faithful ministry of that woman of God. Look at the fruit of her work. A worldwide church dedicated to ministry for God. Look at the life of the woman. Always lifting up Jesus Christ and Scripture. And all these people can do is pick at a few isolated quotes taken far removed from its context. God bless you Ellen White. Take your rest in the grave. One day the Lord will exalt above those who hate the truth.
0 that's the answer zero.
Why does the SDA church blaspheme the name of Jesus Christ and say he has to do an 'Investigative Judgment?'
@@jlewis8145 You're asking a "BOT" account, it won't respond.
@@jlewis8145 And why do you smoke crack and not read your Bible? God always Investigates before Judgment. See Adam n Eve, see Cain, see Antediluvians, see Sodom and Gomorrah, see Second coming and see the Bible. lol
@@jlewis8145 you just don't know what you're bible from genesis when God came down to Adam
How does cleansed mean vindicated? I don’t get it 🤷♂️
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Seventh day Adventists believe under their Investigative Judgment because Ellen G White said so that ALL Seventh day Adventists will face the Judgment seat of God WITHOUT Jesus Christ as their
FRIEND
PASTOR
ADVOCATE
JUSTIFIER
GLORIFIER
SANCTIFIER
REDEEMER
SCAPEGOAT at the Judgment seat of God
2 Peter 3:8 KJV
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Evening and morning are 24 hours(.) Simple. Thats why it is worded as such. Every SDA preacher preaching this doctrine uses 'days'. Intentionally changing the scripture. Thus intentionally deceiving. This truth totally blows up 'their doctrine'...
Other doctrines are bent as well. But, im not looking for a debate. Just speaking truth.
Why would they think they are the only true Christians? I believe SDA's to be a cult just like other works based salvation ie keeping the Sabbath. And you think people who just believe the gospel don't go to heaven which is blasphemous
SDAs? Because Ellen said those who keep the sabbath are the remnant
@@markdonnaabbott3977 Jews keep the Sabbath. Hmm
@@trixielane6885 we're not Jews though and we're in the new covenant not the old.
Colossians 2:16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. 17 These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. 18 Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, 19 and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.
20 If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations- 21 “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” 22 (referring to things that all perish as they are used)-according to human precepts and teachings? 23 These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.
What ever you do, do unto the Lord. But that's not what sdas teach. The Sabbath = the substance of Christ. SDAS teach keeping the 4th commandment (which they cannot and do not do it fully anyways, whoever keeps one part of the law must keep ALL James2:10) and you will be saved.
Romans 14:5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God.
Actually Romans 14 even refutes Ellen's vegetarian diet "vision"
Whatever each person chooses they do to the Lord. But SDAs don't teach that and anything that is contrary to the Lords word should be dismissed.
I got no problem with people keeping the Sabbath or eating clean not a problem. That's their choice. But when an organisation says you're not saved unless you keep the Sabbath or eat clean foods and say you're anathema because of it, and then have the cheek to say they're God's remnant.. That I have a problem with.
Former sda here....
@@markdonnaabbott3977 what are you now?
@@trixielane6885 I'm a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ and whatever I do I must worship in truth and in spirit.
Doesn't matter what denomination I attend, Jesus didn't intend for it to be like that. He is the head of the body and I love everyone from each denomination, including sdas, Catholics, JWs and Mormons. My greatest prayer is for them to know the true gospel that salvation is a gift of grace from God the Father and they do not need to do works in order to obtain salvation, they need only believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and they will be saved. And the works they do perform is fruits of their salvation. The grace of God is a beauty to behold.
Everytime, a show to discredit the SDA church is made only people who have been fired, bitter will speak for the church. But the talk show hosts know very well SDA pastors who are always on internet preaching the gospel in the perspective of SDA community and they do not call them.
There are so many things said in this program where they twisted the teachings of SDA.. But we are not surprised.
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So you KEEP ALL and OBEY ALL.the LAW of the Commandments of God being SINLESS and WITHOUT SIN?
What I have a problem with is this whole thing of EGW claiming she had "visions" but in reality, she was just taking material from outside sources. Leads me to ask what she called a "vision." Was she stretching that meaning to be anything from an actual "vision" to, oh, I dunno, "viewing that which was on the page already"??? Anyway, most of what she wrote regarding the history of the Jewish people, including in Jesus' day, doesn't even match up with what's known now, from historical research (including archaeology), into the culture of the Hebrews, the Maccabees, the Jews, the Cohanim... She got so much of that wrong, that the idea that the claims she made were from "visions from God" or whatever, is completely laughable.
And that was a proven facts that Ellen G White was a false prophet. And yet Adventists still can’t and won’t accept this.
Most of their members are educated and some have a Ph.D degree. I may say the reason behind this is the work of the devil.
They were blinded by the devil, as what the bible says
II CORINTHIANS 4:4
“In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
She suffered from hysteria and was treated at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. That plus the seizures, the lying, plagiarism, blasphemy, etc., makes for a bad mix.
" SCHOLARS", John Ankerburg, I Corinthians 12:28 says And God set in the church first Apostles, second prophets, third, teachers, etc. No mention of Scholars in scripture having a position in the church.
Scholar: teacher😏
Scholar: a specialist in a particular study
Thanks. I'm fully cognizant of the role of a scholar. Ankerburg assumes a quote / unquote hegemony on a select group of Bible expositor's. To condone such goes against the spiritual operation of the holy Spirit. John 14:16 - 17 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever;
Even the Spirit of truth;
Ankerburg s outreach to Bible scholars and not the "called or annointed " of God weakens the faith. II Timothy 3 Ever learning and never able to come to work he knowledge if truth is what scholars are because they are not filled with the holy spirit. They self serve .
The only one self serving was Ellen G White, quit deflecting from the exposure presented
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Two days from now will be SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
I've never heard so much foolishnes ever in saying that sda's have a different gospel. Isn't all the Bible the word of God? So what is your point?
I'd like you to carefully read Revelation 1:1-3, how do you understand these verses?
One thing I know is that satan will always try to keep as many as possible from truth of God's word..No matter how much stigma is placed on sda's, God's message will shine forth.
We have a message to give to the world, and this message is in Revelation 14: 6-10
Come out of Babylon (confusion) and worship the true God.
I believe there is more truth in this message, calling ppl out of the manmade doctrines and come back to the true God
To the law and to the testimony; if they speak not according to this word, it is because thereis no light in them Isaiah 8:20
Lastly remember the parable of the sower? There will be seeds sown on different soils but only what is sown on good ground will bear fruits.
Jesus is coming soming soon and every eye will see him..then all will know who was right or wrong
Seventh Day Adventism makes fun of God and says that he must do an 'Investigative Judgment' to determine those who are saved.
The true and living God is omniscient. He already knew those who would be saved before he created the world.
Eph. 1:4
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
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The gospel is located in I Cor. 15
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Jesus said to go into all the world and preach the gospel.
The SDA church does not obey God's command.
Jesus never said to hold prophecy seminars or preach the fourth commandment.
What did Jesus Christ preach?
Mark 1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
What did the apostle Paul preach?
20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house,
21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
I have been sealed by God.
I have the Holy Spirit living inside of me.
2Cr 1:22 - Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
Eph 1:13 - In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise.
Eph 4:30 - And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
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The SDA have a different seal.
"The Sabbath is the great test question. It is the line of demarkation between the loyal and true and the disloyal and transgressor. ... It is the seal of the living God."
"Thus the distinction is drawn between the loyal and the disloyal. Those who desire to have the seal of God in their foreheads must keep the Sabbath of the fourth commandment. Thus they are distinguished from the disloyal, who have accepted a manmade institution in place of the true Sabbath. The observance of God's rest day is a mark of distinction between him that serveth God and him that serveth Him not."
5. Ellen White, Selected Messages Book 3, p. 423.
6. Ellen White, Review & Herald, April 23, 1901. Mrs. White also wrote the following: "The sign, or seal, of God is revealed in the observance of the seventh-day Sabbath, the Lord's memorial of creation" (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 8, p. 117). Also: "...Too late they see that the Sabbath of the fourth commandment is the seal of the living God" (The Great Controversy, p. 640).
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What do we know about those who are sealed?
The book of Revelation does not give us many details about what the seal of God is, and it only gives us a few clues about those who are sealed:
They are "servants of our God" (Rev. 7:3)
They are 144,000 in number (Rev. 7:4)
They are from the twelve tribes of Israel (Rev. 7:4)
They have the "Father's name written in their foreheads" (Rev. 14:1; in ancient seals, the king's name was usually found on the seal.)
They "were redeemed from the earth" (Rev. 14:3)
They "are virgins" (Rev. 14:4)
They "follow the Lamb" (Rev. 14:4)
Their speech is pure (Rev. 14:5)
They are "without fault" (Rev. 14:5)
Please note: There is nothing in the description of the 144,000 about Sabbath-keeping. If Sabbath-keeping is indeed the most important and prominent sign that separates true Christians from false ones, then why didn't John at least mention it here in the section of Revelation that is describing those with the Seal of God?
www.nonsda.org/study7.shtml
Revelation 1:1-3 One of the signs of a cult is that they focus on the end times.
They don't preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. I Cor. 15:1-4
They don't care about the souls of men.
They scare people about all manner of things.
Let's have a prophecy seminar.
Let's talk about the mark of the beast.
Lets talk about how persecuted we are.
Let's tell people that God will destroy Sunday-keeping Christians with fire.
(The Bible teaches that everyone is a soul. Your soul is eternal. You will spend eternity in heaven or hell as Jesus Christ taught.)
Let's talk about the National Sunday Law.
Let's talk about the book of Daniel and the book of Revelation.
Jesus said to go into all the world and preach the gospel.
There is one common denominator about all Seventh Day Adventists.
They don't read their Bibles. Sad, but true.
@@jlewis8145You know nothing about this religion...go and get yourself EDUCATED.
@@jlewis8145Wrong!shame on you...cults preachers or leaders have many wiven...slaves and they keep you captive..SDA have none none of thise streaks.
How can any Sunday keeping church denounce the SDA church, who keep the correct day of worship of the only creator God of all things !
While our sunday worshiping denominations keep the pagan day of the sun ?
Apostate Christianity calling Gods remnant church False, is just like saying that Lucifer, is God !
Jesus, who made all things in this world, made the seventh day, a Holy day, because He blessed it and Sanctified it as a sign of a finished creation of both the world and human beings !
Thats why the seventh day is in the Exodus chapter 20; in the 4th commandment!
Whereas Sunday, the first day of the week is not blessed in connection with the creation of humanity and this world !
Also to say that Sunday is the day of the resurrection of Jesus Christ! It is but the word Sabbath, means rest and our Lord Jesus, was not resting on Sunday ! Because Sabbath means rest ! Sunday is the day of His Resurrection and is NOT the holy day of rest !
Why does the majority of the Christian church don’t understand this Bible fact !
Sunday, is not in the Holy Law of God ! But the Seventh day Sabbath is !
James says in his epistle “ If you break one of the Law of God, you break all of them ! There is not one Scripture text to show that Sunday, is from God, but it came from the false god of this world, which is Lucifer !
The day of the sun ( sunday, is the day of Baal) and Lucifer, got the jews to reject Jesus when he came the first time and the same Lucifer, has got the majority of the Christian world, to reject the Holy Law of God, before the second coming of the same Jesus Christ !
Sunday, one day soon will be the ‘ Mark of the Beast’ , because the Beast of Daniel and The Revelation, clearly show the Beast is Roman Catholicism, who changed the Holy Sabbath of God, the seventh day, for the Pagan false day Sunday, Daniel chapter 7; clearly shows that this Anti-Christ power would change God’s Holy sabbath day’ he shall change times and Law’ !
What part of the 10 Commandment, its the 4th one that Bible prophecy said that apostate Christianity would do at the time of Daniel the prophet!
So how can anyone say that the SDA church has a false Gospel?
The brothers and sisters who keep this pagan day called Sunday, are keeping the wrong day and a result of this have a false gospel!
Follow the Commandment of God and not from men !
Jesus, said the same things to the apostate Jewish religious leaders in His day !
History repeats here !
Lord have mercy on spiritual Babylon and her daughters ! Who hold on to unscriptural doctrines !
Revelation 18; says come out of her my people !
How can any church teach the blasphemy of the 'Investigative Judgment?'
The atonement was completed at the cross.
"Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins.
"It is finished." The debt has been paid.
I have been made perfect. I already have eternal life.
Hebrews 10:14
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
The SDA Church teaches that the Atonement is not finished until the Investigative Judgment is completed just prior to the second coming of Jesus. The Bible teaches the Atonement was finished when Jesus died on the Cross:
Jesus said, "It is finished." (John 19:30)
But this man [Jesus], after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. (Heb. 10:12-14)
The Bible teaches that Christ's atonement on the cross has perfected (past tense) His children. Christians are not made perfect during the Investigative Judgment period. If we are "in Christ," then we were made perfect 2,000 years ago through Christ's perfect sacrifice on Calvary.
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (Rom. 8:1)
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. (Rom. 5:9)
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Eternal life begins at conversion -
Adventists teach that no one should say they are "saved" because our salvation will not be certain until we pass through the Investigative Judgment. The Bible teaches that whoever accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior has (present tense) eternal life:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. (John 5:24)
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not [his] brother abideth in death. (1 John 3:14)
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Cases of the Righteous have already been decided!
The SDA Church teaches that "all" must pass through the Investigative Judgment to determine whether or not they will be saved.3 Seventh-day Adventists claim the Investigative Judgment started in 1844, but the Bible clearly shows that the cases of the righteous have already been decided long prior to the Investigative Judgment:
Thief on the cross: Jesus declared to the thief on the cross, "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise." (Luke 22:43). How could Jesus make a determination on the case of the thief prior to the Investigative Judgment? The thief's case was determined some 1800 years before the "Investigative Judgment" when he repented and accepted Jesus on the cross.
This proves that Christ needs no Investigative Judgment to determine who will be with Him in paradise. Why would He treat us any differently than He treated the thief on the cross?
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: The Bible says Abraham was justified (accounted righteous) by faith (Rom. 4:2-5). Nearly 1800 years before the Investigative Judgment supposedly began Jesus declared:
And I say unto you, that many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. (Matt. 8:11)
Jesus did not need an Investigative Judgment to determine the cases of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, so why does He need one to determine our destiny?
Enoch: SDAs claim that Enoch was taken to heaven (Gen. 5:24). How did God know Enoch could be taken to heaven without an investigation?
Moses: SDAs claim that after Moses sinned and died he was resurrected and taken to heaven (Jude 9). If everyone's sins are not blotted out until after the investigative judgment, then how could Moses enter heaven?
Elijah: The Bible says that "Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven" (1 Kings 2:11). How could God take Elijah before the Investigative Judgement was completed?
nonsda.org/study4.shtml
Lord have mercy on those who do not read their Bibles, especially men, who are to be spiritual leaders in their homes.
Why would any church follow the teachings of a known false prophetess?
Grown men following a woman. For shame.
I Corinthians 14
34 Women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the church.…
Sunday is the Lord's Day!
God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Leviticus 23 and Acts 2
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Sunday is not the Mark of the Beast.
Please read your Bible.
The New Testament never describes the Sabbath as the one great issue that will divide the true believers from the false believers. If the Sabbath was indeed such a profound issue, such a "life-or-death" matter of eternal consequence, then why did Jesus and the Apostles say nothing of its importance?
Paul told Christians not to judge each other regarding the keeping of the Sabbath (Col. 2:16) or any other day they decide to keep holy:
One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. (Rom. 14:5)
In the book of Romans, Paul encouraged Christians to uphold the law (Rom. 3:31), but he did not over-emphasize the importance of the Sabbath. Why not? Was it because God wanted us to figure out the most profound issue in Christianity on our own, without any help or guidance from His Word? Or was it because the writers of the Bible were uninspired and had no idea this would become an issue at the end of time? Of course not!
It is absurd to think that such a critical decision--a decision upon which hinges the eternal destination of the Christian believer--would be met with silence by Paul and other New Testament authors. Every student knows that when a teacher has an important point to make to his students, he reiterates that point over and over again. Jesus and the Apostles were the greatest teachers this world has ever seen. The points they repeatedly emphasized were:
Love
Grace
Forgiveness
Mercy
Doing good to others
Faith
Salvation
Return of Christ
Dangers of legalism
These subjects are repeated over and over again in the New Testament. What about the necessity of keeping Sabbath as a holy day? Oddly enough, it is never mentioned in the New Testament, not even once. And yet are we to believe this is the single-most important issue that is supposed to decide the fate of humanity?
nonsda.org/study8.shtml
@@jlewis8145
The repentant thief on the cross was saved by Jesus, before they both died on their own crosses ! When the Lord Jesus, was Baptised by John the Baptist in the Jordan, Jesus, said “ it is fitting to fulfil all righteousness “ !
Our Lord Jesus did not need to be Baptised, because He was without sin ! But that repentant thief who said to the Lord Jesus, ‘remember me when you come in to your kingdom’; Jesus Baptism was both Imputed / imparted to that thief and this is how the thief was saved to enter the kingdom of God in heaven ! Through the life of Jesus, in living the Gospel in human nature ! And imputing and imparted to every human being that accepts the Lord Jesus Christ
@@robertbailey6797 Thank you. You didn't seem to read my post.
Revelation 12:22 he comes with his reward eternal life, there's no time for judgement he already knows who is fit for the kingdom.
Judgement is for the sinners after a millennium in heaven
Read Revelation 20 properly
The SDA is true
The SDA church is as false as EGW.
@@nicetry620 Not true. This is the SDA Church. Revelation 12:1
“And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:”
King James Version (KJV)
@@bokelvin165 the devil got you. YOU HAVE BEEN FOOLED
@@L-Noble.YT_Hi.Res-Soundmindsit’s you who have been fooled by the devil, using one of his minion, Ellen G White
EGW prophesied the return of the Lord Jesus Christ in 1844 proved that White is a FALSE prophet, and SDA church is a FALSE church.
@@nicetry620 Here's my response, your a deceptive devil speaking against God and His people and Church.
I used to be a part of the seventh day Adventist. But im glady no longer a part of this church. Too much emphasis on legalism
John 10:32 “Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.”
I’m not SDA, but
EGW wrote more than 5,000 periodical articles and 40 books. As of 2019 more than 200 White titles are available in English, including compilations from her 100,000 pages of manuscript published. Translated into more than 165 languages. Opened up numerous hospitals (sanitariums) with over 651 today as part of her legacy. Opened up numerous schools with over 8,800 as part of her legacy. 60 publishing houses. 22 food industries. Millions of people, including me, coming to a closer understanding, Faith, the breath of my sinfulness, and relationship with God!
SDA are just over 1% of the Christian Church but are In over 200 countries? Can God not protect his Truth?
Which of those good works do you call SDAs and EGW Satan?
This is the way!
4 - 8 - 24
You have nothing better to do than to be braggadocios about EGW while simultaneously saying you are NOT an SDA
Why not ?
We all know you are
STOP your LIES by BREAKING the VERY LAW you claim to keep Holy and HALLOW....
The Bible has been translated in over
3 , 300 languages in 165 countries
You mentioned sanitariums
"" I have since thought that many inmates of INSANE ASYLUMS were brought there by experiences SIMILAR to MY OWN......""
( Ellen G White
Mind , Character and personality
Vol 2 , p.454 )
4 - 8 - 24
You mentioned SATAN
Would that be the SAME SATAN?
For SDA and LDS ?
LDS : SATAN the father of LIES the Devil is the Spirit brother of Jesus
SAME AS.........
SDA : SATAN the father of LIES the Devil is the SDA HERO SCAPEGOAT of Adventism
If the atonement was completed at the cross, why do we read in Hebrews chapter 9 about Jesus entering into the tabernacle in Heaven (v 11,12) taking His own blood, and by doing so He obtained eternal redemption?
The atonement was completed at the cross.
"Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins.
"It is finished." The debt has been paid.
I have been made perfect. I already have eternal life.
Hebrews 10:14
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
The SDA Church teaches that the Atonement is not finished until the Investigative Judgment is completed just prior to the second coming of Jesus. The Bible teaches the Atonement was finished when Jesus died on the Cross:
Jesus said, "It is finished." (John 19:30)
But this man [Jesus], after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. (Heb. 10:12-14)
The Bible teaches that Christ's atonement on the cross has perfected (past tense) His children. Christians are not made perfect during the Investigative Judgment period. If we are "in Christ," then we were made perfect 2,000 years ago through Christ's perfect sacrifice on Calvary.
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (Rom. 8:1)
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. (Rom. 5:9)
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Eternal life begins at conversion -
Adventists teach that no one should say they are "saved" because our salvation will not be certain until we pass through the Investigative Judgment. The Bible teaches that whoever accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior has (present tense) eternal life:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. (John 5:24)
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not [his] brother abideth in death. (1 John 3:14)
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Cases of the Righteous have already been decided!
The SDA Church teaches that "all" must pass through the Investigative Judgment to determine whether or not they will be saved.3 Seventh-day Adventists claim the Investigative Judgment started in 1844, but the Bible clearly shows that the cases of the righteous have already been decided long prior to the Investigative Judgment:
Thief on the cross: Jesus declared to the thief on the cross, "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise." (Luke 22:43). How could Jesus make a determination on the case of the thief prior to the Investigative Judgment? The thief's case was determined some 1800 years before the "Investigative Judgment" when he repented and accepted Jesus on the cross.
This proves that Christ needs no Investigative Judgment to determine who will be with Him in paradise. Why would He treat us any differently than He treated the thief on the cross?
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: The Bible says Abraham was justified (accounted righteous) by faith (Rom. 4:2-5). Nearly 1800 years before the Investigative Judgment supposedly began Jesus declared:
And I say unto you, that many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. (Matt. 8:11)
Jesus did not need an Investigative Judgment to determine the cases of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, so why does He need one to determine our destiny?
Enoch: SDAs claim that Enoch was taken to heaven (Gen. 5:24). How did God know Enoch could be taken to heaven without an investigation?
Moses: SDAs claim that after Moses sinned and died he was resurrected and taken to heaven (Jude 9). If everyone's sins are not blotted out until after the investigative judgment, then how could Moses enter heaven?
Elijah: The Bible says that "Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven" (1 Kings 2:11). How could God take Elijah before the Investigative Judgement was completed?
nonsda.org/study4.shtml
The Atonement was complete, but Christ is not only our passover sacrificed for us, but he is also our High Priest in heaven who has the work of blotting out our record of sin after the books have been opened and the work of judgment commenced.
He comes back for his people with all of his holy angles as KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
@@larrybedouin2921 My sins have been blotted out.
The Bible teaches that our sins are blotted out when we repent:
I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee. (Isaiah 44:22)
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. (Acts 3:19)
and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. (1 John 1:7)
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I have been made perfect. Hebrews 10:14
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Atonement completed at the Cross - The SDA Church teaches that the Atonement is not finished until the Investigative Judgment is completed just prior to the second coming of Jesus.
The Bible teaches the Atonement was finished when Jesus died on the Cross:
Jesus said, "It is finished." (John 19:30)
But this man [Jesus], after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. (Heb. 10:12-14)
The Bible teaches that Christ's atonement on the cross has perfected (past tense) His children. Christians are not made perfect during the Investigative Judgment period. If we are "in Christ," then we were made perfect 2,000 years ago through Christ's perfect sacrifice on Calvary.
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (Rom. 8:1)
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. (Rom. 5:9)
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I already have eternal life.
Eternal life begins at conversion -
Adventists teach that no one should say they are "saved" because our salvation will not be certain until we pass through the Investigative Judgment.
The Bible teaches that whoever accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior has (present tense) eternal life:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. (John 5:24)
I John 5:13
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
@@larrybedouin2921 our record of sin , because He died for them, is blotted out every time we ask for forgiveness, His blood covers for them and our slate is cleaned. He is in the Heavenly Sanctuary, Most Holy Place , at His Father right hand , interceding for the new sins we are committing and that He has forgiven and blotted them out already, once and for all at the cross.✝️📖🙏❤️
@@larrybedouin2921 It is finished!!!!once and for all!! That is why we , His repentant believers can say that we are saved, He covers us with His Righteousness!✝️📖✝️❤️🙏
SDA: don’t worry about the Sabbath! Just accept Jesus as yur Savior!! Luke 6:1-11. and Mark 2:27
JESUS HAS THE AUTHORITY TO OVERRULE “LAWS” CONCERNING THE “SABBATH “.
For all those who SAY they believe in *"Scripture ALONE"* , they ALL should shut their mouth and hand out *"Bibles ALONE"*
Jesus said, "If you love me, keep my commandments" John 14.15
And which commandments was he speaking of at the point in scripture "?"
@@nicetry620 2023
*There is not one commandment from Christ or his apostles to keep the Sabbath of the Jews.*
Count the number of times the scripture and Christ *commands us* to love one another by *commandment* ! *NOT ONCE DOES CHRIST OR ANY OF THE APOSTLES COMMAND SABBATH KEEPING.* And, while the scripture is explicit for the commandment of Christ to love the Church, the WORK of Adventism is to *persecute and hatemonger the very Church and brethren Christ is commanding you to love* ! Here's your *"Test commandment"* , not Sabbath keeping like the Pharisees but to love and obey Christ's commandments to the Church!
John 13:34
*A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.*
John 13:35
By THIS (SIGN) *shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.*
John 15:12
*This is MY commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.*
John 15:17
These things *I command you, that ye love one another.*
Romans 12:10
Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;
Romans 13:8
Owe no man any thing, *but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath FULFILLED the law.*
Galatians 5:13
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, *but by love serve one another.*
Ephesians 4:2
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, *forbearing one another in love;*
1 Thessalonians 3:12
And the Lord make you to increase and *abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:*
1 Thessalonians 4:9
But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for *ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.*
Hebrews 10:24
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
1 Peter 1:22
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto *unfeigned love of the brethren, *see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:*
1 Peter 3:8
Finally, be ye all of one mind, *having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:*
1 John 3:11
*For THIS IS THE MESSAGE hat ye heard from the beginning, *that we should love one another.*
1 John 3:23
*And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave US COMMANDMENT.*
1 John 4:7
Beloved, let US love one another: for love is of God; and *every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.* (NOT SABBATH KEEPING)
1 John 4:11
Beloved, if God so loved US, *we ought also to love one another.*
1 John 4:12
No man hath seen God at any time. *If we love one another, God dwelleth in US, and his love is perfected in us.*
2 John 1:5
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though* I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.* >
I DOUBT ONE OF YOU WILL OBEY *"HIS COMMANDMENTS"* TO LOVE THE CHURCH AND THE BRETHREN. Because, the Sabbath keepers have taught you to hate the Brethren and the Church.
Christ commandment is that you love the church and the brother in at the church! And he that does not keep that commandment is a liar and the truth is not in him. Christ commanded all Christians to obey the church and to hear with the church teachers not pick up the Bible and make your own beliefs as the Adventist and thousands of other churches have done. And therefore the Adventist despise persecute and hate the church in defiance of Christ commandment!
*Ellen G. White and the Adventists have taught their followers to persecute and hate the Church Christ instituted, not LOVE IT AND THE BRETHREN*
@@nicetry620 Oh that Adventists would learn to be honest and truthful. Even now, the Holy Spirit begs you. What great peace would come upon them. I’m so sorry that you all forbid the Lord in their lives and put away their deceit
Ps. 51: 6 *Behold, thou desirest truth in the INWARD parts:* and in the HIDDEN part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.
Psalm 15: 1 Lord, who will dwell in your tabernacle? Who will dwell on your holy mountain?
2 He who walks in *INTEGRITY,* and works righteousness, and *speaks the TRUTH in his heart.*
3 Whoever does not SLANDER with his tongue, nor DOES his neighbor WRONG, nor takes SHAME on his neighbor.
Unfortunately, there is no member of the Sabbath-keeping Adventist Church or of its dissident groups *who walks in righteousness, does justice, speaks the TRUTH from the heart, does not SLANDER with their tongue, DOESN'T WRONG HIS NEIGHBOR or reproach against his neighbour!* Every word of the Adventist teaching about Sunday is a outrageous lie and false testimony against BILLIONS of Christians throughout history.
Psalm 32:
1How blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven,
Whose sin is covered!
2How blessed is the man to whom the LORD does not impute iniquity,
And in whose spirit there is no deceit!
5I acknowledged my sin to You,
And my iniquity I did not hide;
I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the LORD”;
And You forgave the guilt of my sin.Selah.
6Therefore, let everyone who is godly pray to You in a time when You may be found;
Surely in a flood of great waters they will not reach him.
@JOHN PUBLIC!
Here I am if you wish to continue our discussion in the open. 🕊️
The SDAs will prove their faith during the tribulations.😅😊
They will end up in hell with Bibles in their hands
Hope you will prove yours too.
@@underhiswings3244
Impossible for them to do that, only by faith in Christ and by the grace of God will we be able to make it.
The SDA is like the 5 foolish virgins, they did hear the sound, but aren't able to locate the bell.
@@nonconformist4802
There are no Bibles in hell.... yet another tribute to the Biblically unaware critic of the SDA Church....
Rather than, hate and spite, try Loving Obedience to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!
"Great Peace have they that Love Thy Law! " Psalms 119:165
@@loren719
_"There are no Bibles in hell."_
If you wasn't such an ignorant fool you would have understand the phrase, but because you don't, I will rephrase it just for you.
You clowns claimed that your savior is Jesus Christ, RIGHT?
No, you worship a glorified angel by the name of Michael if you can remember correctly.
2nd, you clowns rejected the gospel of Paul to followed a perverted version of angels.
Last but not the least, you clowns openly rejected Sola Scriptura to create space for that witch EGW,
So, you don't believe the Bible, you worship[ an angel called Michael and you reject the saving gospel of the Bible, *YOU ARE ONLY BLUFFING YOURSELF AND YOUR MOTHER, NO ONE ELSE*
So you "law keeping" pharisee, your first attempt failed miserable with no peace for you at all, go ahead and try again.
Ellen white said her writings were a lesser light,the Bible is the bigger light,Jesus is the centre of Adventists not Ellen white.
God has commanded women to be silent in the church.
Jesus Christ said, Follow me.
Lesser light is Satan!!
😂😂😂 desmond ford is delusional
Accepting the delusion of ellen g white about the failure of william miller delusional date😂
Im a SABBATH KEEPER I believe in every scriptures in the Bible.
I never dwell in ELLEN G WHITE BOOK OR EVEN BELIEVE IN HER DOCTRINE.
She's just a human being and not an intercessor like she's been perceived by many SDA believer they rather search for correction in her book then seek the holy spirit for answers.
Amen I would be interested to exchange notes with you because iam of the same view. Iam in the UK. Which country are you from?
@@ffda0012 Fiji
If you really do believe the Bible, why can't your god help you to comprehend the book of Galatians?
@@nicetry620 ""Test the spirits because "MANY" false prophets have gone out into the world"...." Conversely, there can be true prophets, like Ellen White.
"Because last I checked she has EQUAL authority to scripture over the sda church...."
That's ridiculous. She is an authoritative source, but no Adventist believes she is above the Bible. Only gossipers spread such nonsense.
The amount of plagiarism is immense
Cult.period
I cant wait for the Sunday law 😇
I think you already know the answer William 😇😇😇
@@ericfolks1503
Stop the nonsense and answer the question, why can't you wait?
You can't wait to die for keeping the Sabbath?
Part of being in a cult is that they have a persecution complex. "Nobody likes us, not even Christians." Also, cults always focus on the end-times, rather than preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ as he commanded us to.
God is going to destroy with fire all those Sunday-keeping Christians.
Scary, eh?
Eventually Sunday laws will be passed requiring a death sentence for anyone who refuses to worship on Sunday. More scary! Ellen White explains:
As the Sabbath has become the special point of controversy throughout Christendom, and religious and secular authorities have combined to enforce the observance of the Sunday, the persistent refusal of a small minority to yield to the popular demand will make them objects of universal execration. ...a decree will finally be issued against those who hallow the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, denouncing them as deserving of the severest punishment and giving the people liberty, after a certain time, to put them to death.
Romanism in the Old World and apostate Protestantism in the New will pursue a similar course toward those who honor all the divine precepts.
After this death decree has been passed by the evil Catholics and wicked Protestants, Jesus will return to save the holy Seventh-day Adventists. Then, He will execute the judgment described in Revelation 14:10-11 by sending fire to destroy all Sunday-keeping Christians.
12. Ellen White, The Great Controversy (1911), pp. 615-616.
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Ellen White taught that Seventh Day Adventists could never be saved. You will be damned forever. The door to heaven was shut back in October 1844.
Don't you remember?
The Advent Herald for December 11, 1844.
It was later reprinted in The Advent Review Special of September, 1850.
"We have done our work in warning sinners, and in trying to awake a formal church. God in his providence has SHUT THE DOOR; we can only stir one another up to be patient; and be diligent to make our calling and election sure."
"The fall of Babylon commenced in the spring of '43 when the churches all around, began to fall into a cold state, and was complete on the 7th month '44, when the last faint ray of hope was taken up from a wicked world church."
The Day-Star, September 20, 1845, p. 26.
"From the ascension, to the shutting of the door, Oct., 1844, Jesus stood with widespread arms of love, and mercy; ready to receive and plead the cause of every sinner, who would come to God by him."
A Word to the Little Flock, 1847, p.2.
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"After the passing of the time of expectation, in 1844, Adventists still believed the Saviour's coming to be very near; they held that they had reached an important crisis, and that the work of Christ as man's intercessor before God, had ceased.
Having given the warning of the judgment [sic] near, they felt their work for the world was done, and they lost their burden of soul for the salvation of sinners, while the bold and blasphemous scoffing of the ungodly seemed to them another evidence that the Spirit of God had been withdrawn from the rejecters of his mercy.
All this confirmed them in the belief that probation had ended, or, as they then expressed it, 'the door of mercy was shut.'" Spirit of Prophecy, Vol 4, p. 268.
www.nonegw.org/egw27.shtml
@@jlewis8145The Adventists and SDA church still stuck in the Middle ages beliefs.
So sad for those Adventists that were fooled by EGW dogmas.
Hundreds of them, and the sad part is, some of them have a PhD degrees.
@@bokelvin165 Highly educated people can be very deceived. That is especially true of Latter day Saints. The LDS president himself was a heart surgeon. Such a sad story.
SDA,
SHOULD I BELIVE E.G. WHITRE OR THE BIBLE?
There is much in the writings of E.G. White that is unbiblical.
Examples:
1. Was the plan of salvation made before or after the fall?
E.G. White says AFTER the fall (Great Controversy, p.347)
The Bible says BEFORE (Ephesians 1:4:; 1 Peter 1:18)
Should I believe EGW or the Bible?
2. Was Adam deceived by Satan? E.G.
White says YES (Evangelism, p. 598)
The Bible says NOPE (1 Timothy 2:14)
Should I believe EGW or the Bible?
3. Did pre-flood human beings mate with animals to produce amalgamated creatures?
E.G. White says YES (Spiritual Gifts Vol. 3,p 64 )
The Bible says NOPE (Genesis 1:24-25- Nowhere in the Bible is it indicated there was amalgamation of human beings and animals before the flood)
Should I believe EGW or the Bible?
4. Was the tower of Babel built before or after the flood?
E.G. White says BEFORE (Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 119)
The Bible says AFTER (Genesis 11:4)
Should I believe EGW or the Bible? 4.
Who bears human's sins?
E.G. White says SATAN (The Great Controversy, p. 422, 485-486)
The Bible says JESUS (1 Peter 2:24)
Should I believe EGW or the Bible?
I have read so much of what EGW wrote and what others in the church and outside have written about her writings. She calls her writings "little light" that lead people to "greater light", the Bible. The truth is her writings are leading me away from the Bible. Should I believe the Bible or clear heresies of E.G. White?
The only thing against them is like the Jehovah Witnesses to say Gods too loving to throw his creatures in hell , i have a surprise to all the people The Holy Spirit taught me the Bible and while i am Dutch Reform , The Adventist Church are more advanced than all the churches , let me correct you mister Concerning the Sabbath God did not change it so they right , you are mis informed by speaking against them
God changed the Sabbath. God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Always a Sunday. Leviticus 23 and Acts 2
@@jlewis8145 I am not going to argue with someone that has less knowledge than i have 🤔😏😊
@@elizeleroux6388 John 17:17 Thy word is truth.
God bless you.
Whether people are wrong or right , the Lord points out , all the Churches are wrong , they all need to be corrected , if the witnesses believe the correct Sabbath they go and teach there is no hell for humans, the same as the Adventist writings, any church that teaches love only , is wrong , God had a living hell and i saw the place believe me please , concerning what they thought Jesus was coming in their time, also okay with that , because he is coming only a little later , that time was beginning of the second coming , don't rubnit out of the books , the Holy Spirit speaks through wise men , how ever, know now the time is near because the signs are all here, don't worry what this preacher or that priest predicted know that the signs already has been given to the true prophets and the end is close , the angel in Revelation his message counting now , there can be time no longer. Let no man argue about the coming of the Lord Jesus , and let no man think in his mind , because people argue , i am free from them, you wake up and believe prophecy from Heaven , God said, my word will remain forever
4 - 8 - 24
LDS : Joseph Smith said Angels have GOLDEN PLATES
SAME AS.......
SDA : Ellen G White said Angels have GOLDEN CARDS
( Early writings 39 : 2 )
Miller was wrong about the event that happened in 1844. He got the dates right. Sorry Mr. ankerberg
Which date? Christ 2nd coming to world failed? if Christ would have come to world, then there is a evident for all believers to confirm and verify, but Miller claim he entered holy place in heaven and for that no evident for mankind to verify. So don't bring deception and manipulating facts.
He afraid to produce fact for verification.
@@vanankumar5733
You said:
"Which date? Christ 2nd coming to world failed?.... "
Answer:
No... Christ Coming to His Temple: " ... and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly COME to His Temple,
even the Messenger of the Covenant, whom ye delight in: " Malachi 3:1
The "Coming to His Temple" in Malachi is what the Prophet Daniel said would happen: " Unto 2,300 [days] then shall the Sanctuary (temple) be Cleansed." Dan. 8:14
Lev. 16 shows Aaron the high priest enter the Most Holy Place in the Temple to Cleanse it or make Atonement for Israel (Lev. 16:30)
Miller was wrong about Dates also, as date 1844 and lie of the other event in it was made up by antichrist ellen G. White.
That's no excuse?! How many haven't been impatient.
@vanan kumar And people today claim such things. Wrong wasn't he. I don't see it as a major cult. Just a little mislead. This kind of spiritual expereince was more common on those day's. Mormonism another, off the fringes of the second awakening in the frontier, " holy roller" camps, and revivals. Any kind of hyper perfectionism also common. Should be rejected. I am not sure they all adhere to these old ideas now. I certainly don't adhere to special revelations, given to some in the past. Then the JW,s too. Can't hold to many of these ridiculous interpretations. Bou. People can get really bound and fixated. It's frustrating to me, when they stopped by. My opinion. Others may know better. This is Ankerbergs speciality. But I dont see him as beyond all dispute at times. Appreciate his investigations though.
What a mess of false teachings.
From Ellen G White that is...
SDA is not a church, please don't make a mistake. A church is a group of people filled with holy spirit and is always preaches not contrary to what bible says. SDA is a club. You will see them don't depends on holy spirit but teaching from schools that is why they doesn't understand the prophecy of the bible especially that of end times.
They depend on Ellen G White, do you're homework before coming on this platform making a complete fool out of yourself
The same holy spirit that inspired the writers of the Bible also inspired Ellen White she was hundred percent inspired by God's holy spirit
@@danbora1456 She was inspired by Devil
I heard she hit her head before the prophecy writing, was that the truth? She had accident? @@danbora1456
You people are mixing truth with lies, I like the last question asked from the audience. They hate God's Way more then they hate E.G.W
The reason why 1844 was a disappointment, William Miller instead of counting the two thousand, three days/years when the transgression of desolation (destruction of the temple in 70 AD).took place, he counted the 2,300 days/years from the time the vision was given to Daniel in 457 BC
5 - 7 - 24
JWS : Charles Taze Russell mentored by the Millerites
SAME AS.........
SDA : Ellen G White mentored by the Millerites
He remained in a cult till his death, then.
No, he retired in his native Australia and started a Christian ministries called”Good Newd Inlimoyrd”
Good News Unlimited” who published monthly religious articles , and continued authoring books, he traveled to other countries preaching invited by other denominations churches and in the United States also.
@williamwelch2352 They were investigated by the General church Council and were listed as a cult for their non biblical teachings. God judges individuals from all denominations who miss represent and deny His Son and the gospel.
@williamwelch2352 If falsehood cannot be judged by the theologians and by Bible truth then everybody can start blasphemy’s and get away with them as truths . The Bible tells us to correct the false preachers and name them so they won’t deceive the non knowledgeable people.
@@olgaburgos7780 one foot inside and the other outside of their original doctrines. Sabbatarian, Ellen White, vegetarian.
Sda is a cult
I totally agree.
Borderline cult. Not quite like Mormonism and JW
Sunday keeping is the mark of the beast
😆 because you said so....
How about you actually use scripture to back you're mouth up
Not yet. That is a future event. So Christians go to heaven.
This message must be given, but while it must be given, we should be careful not to thrust and crowd and condemn those who have not the light that we have. We should not go out of our way to make hard thrusts at the Catholics. Among the Catholics there are many who are most conscientious Christians, and who walk in all the light that shines upon them, and God will work in their behalf.-Testimonies for the Church 9:243.
Those who are Christians love God and love others. No matter the denomination.
No love no salvation.
NOTICE how Samuel Williams couldn't support his claims with scripture, just another troll response...all claim no source
haha you failed, everyone here knows you don't even know anything about prophecies haha, you don't even know how to explain revelation 10 haha 😅😅
@joelvillarreal6988 Sunday keeping is the mark of the beast,I had a question for you,who is the beast in book of Daniel 7 vers 8 the little horn
i go to the sda church but i do not agree with everything they teach ,salvation is on CHRIST alone
So why don't you obey the Word of God when it said: " come out of her"?
I guess because you are already hooked.
In the age of globalization, it’s almost impossible to be a genuine Christian if one is an ordinary Christian. A true Christian has Christ’s spirit of universal love. A Christian who believes in the superiority of Christianity in a time of global integration prevents universal love, justice & peace from coming in. He will even quarrel with different Christian groups.
If you want to slam SDA, how about bring some facts. Not a bunch of distortions and, dare I say, outright lies.
FACTS 😆.....says the one who used WIKIPEDIA for facts
How about we discuss the SDA statements of beliefs
The only ones distorting fact IS SDA. Cherry picking and pulling verses out of context to string together new narratives that aren’t in scripture. The DEVIL twists scripture.
There isn't one SDA that will agree to a debate with me. I keep sabbath. SDAs break it weekly by not keeping it holy because you promote a false prophet, and false prophets are idols
@@chrislucastheprotestantview Oh, yes there is one. What would you like to debate Chris? Sounds like it might be the ministry of Ellen White. OK. Would you like to proceed?
SDA is against altering God's commandments. If you oppose SDA you oppose bible.
How about Ellen G White? Is that against God
@@nicetry620
Ellen white supported all her argument with bible verses.
@@owisoowis4465 Where does the Bible say that God is not omniscient and must do an 'Investigative Judgment' to determine those who are saved?
Where does the Bible say that Jesus will return on April 23, 1843?
Where does the Bible say that Jesus will return on March 21, 1844?
Where does the Bible say that Jesus will return on October 22, 1844?
Where does the Bible say that the 2300 days is actually years?
Where does the Bible say that the 2300 days/years started in 457 BC?
Where does the Bible say that the mark of the beast is keeping the Sabbath?
Where does the Bible say that the door to heaven was shut on October 22, 1844 and that Seventh Day Adventists will not get into heaven?
"From the ascension, to the shutting of the door, Oct., 1844, Jesus stood with widespread arms of love, and mercy; ready to receive and plead the cause of every sinner, who would come to God by him." A Word to the Little Flock, 1847, p.2.
It is clear from this last quotation that the shutting of the door in October, 1844 meant that Jesus NO LONGER "stood with widespread arms of love, and mercy; ready to receive and plead the cause of every sinner..." That is what James White considered to be the meaning of "shut door." In an extensive article in The Present Truth, May 1850, he dealt in great detail with the subject, especially on the shut door. In that article he says, page 79:
"From the best light we could then obtain from the autumnal types we were very confident that the days would end at the seventh month.... When we came up to that point of time, all our sympathy, burden and prayers for sinners ceased, and the unanimous feeling and testimony was, that our work for the world was finished for ever."
www.nonegw.org/egw27.shtml
@@owisoowis4465
She took the writings of others DENIED doing it and claimed it all came directly from God.....
How is that supported by scripture?
@@nicetry620
You said:
"She took the writings of others DENIED doing it .... "
Answer:
Incorrect.... The 27 page Ramik Report (Legal Opinion) shows this:
" Ramik points out several factors that critics of Ellen White's writings have failed to take
into account when accusing her of literary theft or deceit:
1) Her selections "stayed well within the legal boundaries of 'fair use.'"
2) "Ellen White used the writings of others; but in the way she used them,
she made them uniquely her own"--adapting the selections into her
own literary framework
3) Ellen White urged her readers to get copies of some of the very books
she made use of--demonstrating that she did not attempt to conceal the
fact of her use of literary sources, and that she had no intention to defraud
or supersede the works of any other author.
THE RAMIK REPORT
Memorandum of Law Literary Property Rights 1790 - 1915 August 14, 1981
LAW OFFICES DILLER, RAMIK & WIGHT, LTD. PATENT & TRADEMARK CAUSES
So what you said was wrong - see: 3).... IF.... you took her to court over this- accusing her of plagiarism, you'd lose.
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If our gospel is false then God's Word is false because that's what we preach.
Your gospel is false. God's word says so.
What are the three angels messages?
MESSAGE ONE
Then I saw another angel flying directly overhead, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and language and people. 7 And he said with a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come, and worship him who made heaven and earth, the sea and the springs of water.”
MESSAGE TWO
8 Another angel, a second, followed, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion[ of her sexual immorality.”
MESSAGE THREE
9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”
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Now what does the SDA church say are the three angels messages.
(By the way, is the date 1844 in the Bible somewhere?)
MESSAGE ONE
The first angel's message was proclaimed in 1843/1844 through those who were erroneously announcing the imminent return of Jesus. Ellen White, Seventh-day Adventism's prophet, wrote:
Prophecy was fulfilled in the first and second angels' messages. They were given at the right time and accomplished the work which God designed to accomplish by them.
MESSAGE TWO
2. The second angel's message is a call for Christians attending non-Adventist churches to leave those churches and join the one true remnant church--the Seventh-day Adventists. As Mrs. White noted above, SDAs believed this prophecy was fulfilled in 1844 when some Christians left their churches to unite with the Millerite movement:
As the churches refused to receive the first angel's message, they rejected the light from heaven and fell from the favor of God. They trusted to their own strength, and by opposing the first message placed themselves where they could not see the light of the second angel's message. But the beloved of God, who were oppressed, accepted the message, "Babylon is fallen," and left the churches.
When the churches spurned the counsel of God by rejecting the advent message, the Lord rejected them. The first angel was followed by a second, proclaiming, "Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication." Revelation 14:8.
This message was understood by Adventists to be an announcement of the moral fall of the churches in consequence of their rejection of the first message. The proclamation, "Babylon is fallen," was given in the summer of 1844, and as the result, about fifty thousand withdrew from these churches.
God has rejected the church that I attend.
I will be destroyed. Scary, eh?
THIRD MESSAGE
3. The third angel's message is a warning against receiving the Mark of the Beast, which is said to be worship on Sunday. According to the SDA end-time scenario, the last great battle between good and evil will be fought over the day of worship.
Those who keep the Seventh-day Sabbath will receive the Seal of God, while those who keep Sunday receive the Mark of the Beast. According to SDA teachings, all the world will unite under the leadership of Satan to impose Sunday laws upon Seventh-day Adventists. As this frightening scenario unfolds, eventually Sunday laws will be passed requiring a death sentence for anyone who refuses to worship on Sunday. Ellen White explains:
As the Sabbath has become the special point of controversy throughout Christendom, and religious and secular authorities have combined to enforce the observance of the Sunday, the persistent refusal of a small minority to yield to the popular demand will make them objects of universal execration. ...a decree will finally be issued against those who hallow the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, denouncing them as deserving of the severest punishment and giving the people liberty, after a certain time, to put them to death. Romanism in the Old World and apostate Protestantism in the New will pursue a similar course toward those who honor all the divine precepts.
After this death decree has been passed by the evil Catholics and wicked Protestants, Jesus will return to save the holy Seventh-day Adventists. Then, He will execute the judgment described in Revelation 14:10-11 by sending fire to destroy all Sunday-keeping Christians.
God is going to send fire to destroy everyone who worships on Sunday.
Scary, eh?
TELL ME THE WHOLE GOSPEL THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT. NOT 10 COMMANDMENTS, NOONE KEEP THEM, JESUS DID. BUT THE TRUE GOSPEL OF JESUS IS WHAT SAVES.
James 2:10
@partlysimpson5154 I agree. The problem is everybody wants a theology where you throw the law out and still be saved. We don't keep the law in order to be saved. We keep the law because we have been saved.
Yes I noticed my comment is old, I do see now that we can walk in rightousness, but its trough faith its the power of grace really, we can walk in holiness, old is gone new is put on, but we can stumble at times, but it really is about faith, I also notice we can be less sin concious co awe know our identity in christ , my English is bad sorry @@DavesHangar1958
You people don't understand prophecies book of Daniel and revelation on SDA CHURCH keep the ten commandments including the Sabbath God gives them wisdom to explain prophecies so if you people want to understand prophecies come to SDA church and Sunday is the mark ‼️ of the beast
He is exposing himself.The SDA church was called by God through sanctuary message.
Please read your Bible and learn the truth.
John 10
27 My sheep listen to My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give them eternal life, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
.Christ entered the Most Holy Place at His Ascension, not in 1844 - By comparing the Biblical evidence found in the Old Testament description of the Day of Atonement (Lev. 16) with the New Testament description of the Day of Atonement (Heb. 9) we can determine exactly when the Day of Atonement happened.
For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us. (Heb. 9:24)
Where in the sanctuary does the Bible teach that the "presence of God" exists?
And the LORD said unto Moses, Speak unto Aaron thy brother, that he come not at all times into the holy place within the veil before the mercy seat, which is upon the ark; that he die not: for I will appear in the cloud upon the mercy seat. (Lev. 16:2)
The place of the Lord's presence in the Old Testament tabernacle was upon the mercy seat in the Most Holy Place. In order for Christ to have entered into the "presence of God" He must have entered into the Most Holy Place to appear before the mercy seat of God.
This is further validated by the fact that the authors of the New Testament repeatedly refer to Jesus as sitting or standing on the right hand of God. Never once is He ever pictured in a separate room from God. Notice what Mark, Luke, Stephen, Paul, the author of Hebrews, and Peter say:
So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. (Mark 16:19)
Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God. (Luke 22:69)
But he [Stephen], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. (Acts 7:55-56)
Who [is] he that condemneth? [It is] Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. (Rom. 8:34)
Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set [him] at his own right hand in the heavenly [places]. (Eph. 1:20)
If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. (Col. 3:1)
Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high. (Heb. 1:3)
Now of the things which we have spoken [this is] the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens. (Heb. 8:1)
But this man {Christ}, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God. (Hebrews 10:12)
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of [our] faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. (Heb. 12:2)
[Jesus] Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. (1 Pet. 3:22)
2. Jesus Opened the Door to the Most Holy Place at His ascension -
Adventists teach that Jesus opened the door to the Most Holy Place in 1844, but the Bible teaches differently:
Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us... (Heb. 10:19,20)
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. (Heb. 4:15)
Jesus, by His sacrificial death, opened the way for us to enter into the Most Holy Place so that we could bring our petitions directly to the "throne of grace." The "throne of grace" could be nothing other than the Mercy Seat in the Most Holy Place where the "presence of God" abides. The way into the Most Holy Place has been opened since Christ's ascension.
Prior to 1844, how could sinful humans have had access to the Holiest if Christ Himself was not ministering there? And how could first century Christians, to whom the book of Hebrews was addressed, approach the throne of grace in the Holiest if the door into the Holiest was not even opened until 1844?
nonsda.org/study5.shtml
Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
SDA teach mostly what Methodism and Baptist and Lutherans teach. Not a problem. So why do you say these three denominations teach lies? According to you. Since we mostly agree.
Troll account ⚠️👆👆👆
Cannot comprehend simple DEFINITIONS and is completely clueless about the SDA statements of beliefs....
Dose not answer with relevant answers and uses wikipedia for answers rather then going straight to the source.
Give a question. Not just insults.
God is love. @@nicetry620
We teach
Five Solas Sola Scriptura, Scripture alone. Sola Fide Faith Alone Sola Gratian by Grace alone Solo Christ. Christ alone. Soli Deo Glory to GOD alone. GRACE G - God's R - Riches A - At C - Christ's E - Expense Love GOD love others follow Jesus.
But not just Grace. But the five pillars of Protestantism. One being saved by Grace alone.
@@samuelwilliams1559
Stop the nonsense troll, we've already been through these tactics....
The troll account SAMUEL WILLIAMS 👆👆👆 can't have a discussion based on the TOPIC of the video...
Ellen G White is a TOPIC that they cant defend so these troll accounts always attempt these tactics of leaving random comments completely irrelevant to the topic
You keep saying the same things over and over.
8 days ago
@joel villarreal So why have you not changed what they said? So sorry that you are not spreading the Gospel. But not just Grace. But the five pillars of Protestantism. One being saved by Grace alone. Samuel Williams Love GOD love others follow Jesus.
@@samuelwilliams1559
Why don't you learn to address what we we're debate on the other comment section before you try you're deflecting tactics and avoid dealing with you're constant contradictions