23 years old Honda and still running with plugs that can be changed without removing a rats nest of wires, air intakes, boxes and brackets making it affordably fixable. It would drive me nuts having noise from the power steering and the hood popper working though. 🙂
@@GeneralSulla I had a 2001 Honda Stream (Civic derivative) and would still have it now if the auto box hadn't failed around 80K. All of the electrics still worked, none of the switches etc broke, seats held together. But Hondas aren't immortal. The auto box problem was subject to a recall in the early 2000s and apparently not fixed on the one I got used. It was too late when I found out. A remanufactured box was installed but then the torque converter gave up the ghost. Apart from that the only issue was that it was heavy on brake pads and rotors. No I didn't drive it in sport mode like an idiot 😉
Please do not think we get tired of seeing the "basic" videos like tune ups, fluid exchanges, brake jobs and things like that. I always learn another new piece of information no matter how many of these videos you make. 😀 Also, any new updates on your truck upgrades?
Totally agree. For those driveway mechanics amongst us without access to lifts, the videos showing maintenance items under the bonnet (hood) and whilst the car is on the ground are very interesting learning experiences.
RAINMAN WRAP INSULATED COPPER WIRE AROUND THE SCREWDRIVER. FROM THE HANDLE TO THE TIP. THEN PUT THE WIRE ENDS ON A 12 VOLT BATTERY. JUST A SHORT TIME. IT WILL BE MAGNITIZED.
It is such a joy seeing older rigs still getting used and maintained. A great video on the basic tune up. Isn't it amazing what new plugs and such can do for a car🙂
@@chriskline3763 Unfortunately, while they make them for a couple of makes and models yours isn't one. But I did see where people modified the original and put a plex window in, that would be easy to do.
And I bet your pretty handy on laundry day also... And a four cylinder could put Ray into 40 minutes of confusion and to desperately reach out to us for urgent assistance...
Great video, like to see that you didn’t have to remove half of the engine to get to the plugs. Would have liked to have seen what the power steering problem was.
The crimps in the hoses start letting go after 15 years or so, and the pump's seals usually start to weep about that time too. Not to mention there's one or two non-crimped hoses that age out and weep.
Dude, I have a 90's vehicle that requires you to remove/loosen the steering shaft to get at one. You also should remove the tire, unless you're skinny enough to squeeze into the wheel well. Engineers don't consider repairability all that much. They do some, but there's a very, very low limit to their consideration of that. Always been that way.
These older Hondas work quite well. I have a 2000 Accord with 228,000 miles. Partially restoring it with Honda parts (removing the aftermarket Chinese garbage parts) Other than needing some fresh paint on the hood, roof and trunk lid, it’s a great drive.
Friend of mine asked me if I could help him with a misfire on his Toyota Echo. Real cute little car with a tiny 4cyl engine. Sure 'nuff, misfire on cylinder 3, and it went to 2 when the coil pack was swapped. Figured, needed new plugs, so pulled them out - the gap was so large the gapper didn't have a big enough blade. Asked him when he last had the plugs changed (with the car at 199,000 miles). "Uhh, you have to change those?" Turned out the car had tried so hard to get spark cross those gaps that it basically blew out the one coil pack. His other three were still good, and no doubt were very happy to have properly gapped plugs again.
Fun Fact: You can reset the oil life indicator on the cluster by inserting the key into the small vertical slot next to it. Sell em an oil change too. ;)
I love this episode of Ray , it reminds me of a father teaching his sons many years ago . Great diagnosis and repair next step fix the steering noise .
Glad I came across your helpful video!!! My check engine light came on and all 4 of the Cylinders misfired! Replaced the whole set like in your video and now it works perfectly fine!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Video was good! I decided I’m going to keep my 2019 Toyota Tacoma and 2016 Honda Civic till the wheels fall off so I’m watching random repair videos to learn the engine
Mattress is still on the hill ? Maybe a new mattress ? Ray, I love your analytic analysis. I am also subscribed to the "WIFE UNIT ". Congrats on the one year anniversary.
Thank you for this video.. I'm having similar issues with my 99 civic... I will go through the same checks that you did.. I will update you on final result.
Yes, I looked back, and I did watch part 5. You are correct you did finish the engine. I guess I was just looking towards the engine being installed and tested. Keep up the good work.
Didn't like dropping the plugs into the hole. that's why the socket has a rubber sleeve to hold the plug and to start the screw it in. You could have cross treated the plug hole the way you used the power wernch.
Anyone else remember when we used to “recondition” spark plugs? Used a small fixture, made by I think AC delco, connected to shop air. The bottom end of the plug was hit with a few blasts of a fine abrasive to clean the fouling, regap, and you were good for another 10K.
Many times especially on my 2-stroke motorcycle and chainsaw plugs. Back in them days, a set of plugs would foul up in about 5000 miles, less on the 2-strokes.
It's a nice bonus that you have a bridge with a steep grade right by your shop. The ultimate tool to make a misfire show itself. I love those old Hondas. There were so many up here in the Northeast that rotted out and were sent to the scrap heap with perfect engines and transmissions. What a shame.
That would possibly cause extra resistance. Putting plug end , the grease is supposed to only touch the metal bottom outside of the plug reducing the chance of carbon tracking(electricity leaking) and makes getting the wires off, the next possible time easier, you try not to get too much grease that would touch the electrical connection. Dielectric grease is a non-conducting grease.
@@Thestargazer56 The other place I've used dielectric grease was for the wire to the horn, which was gathering a lot of corrosion causing the horn to fail. Keep the moisture out, prevent the corrosion!
I did exactly the same job on my Mom's Civic (plus an oil change). I think it took me longer in line at the parts store than it took to do this easy job. Personally, I don't care for Hondas. They just don't fit me, or my style of driving. However, that doesn't mean Hondas are not GREAT cars. I actually recommend Hondas for anyone on a budget, or are learning to drive, and take care of a car. This car you just did is PERFECT for first time owners, or owners on a budget. You can get parts anywhere, and the car is not real fussy about exact OEM parts like my VWs are.
When I replaced the oem factory plug wire one piece wire and routing rack junk on the 5.7L hemi ‘04 ram 1500 with Taylor wires the wires came numbered. Nice touch.
Spark plugs have a seal between the metal and the porcelain. If you see a brown ring around the joint, which these plugs have, that seal is blown. That's reason enough to replace the plugs even if they look fine otherwise.
Spark plugs have a "Powder Filling" that helps provide a gas tight seal between the insulator and metal shell. NGK has a cut away if you look for it you will find it.
LOL! I had a 1998 Civic HX 5sp. manual. Sold it in 2009 for 50% of its initial retail. Miss that car. It was Soooo reliable. Had the same engine 1.6 ltr VTech. I used to keep it MINT all the time.
The kid across the street had a 95 civic with 60,000 miles on it, I used to hear him cranking the hell out of it everyday and finally it would start, one day he was parked by my house and this time it refused to start and I could hear the battery getting weaker, I went to him asked him to pop the hood, I removed what once wers spark plugs, the electrode was almost completely gone, I told him to go to the zone which is a couple of blocks away and get four new plug, I put them in and it fired right up, I had never seen worse plugs ever.
I wish all repairs were that easy. Lol. Took a trans fluid shower today diagnosing a cooler leak. Turned out that as I was cleaning the residual fluid up to get a better look, the aluminum line broke off as soon as I touched it, WHILE IT WAS RUNNING. 😩😂😂
The maintenance reminder under the speedo is to tell you when its due for a tune up (but no one pays attention to it). Says to use the key to reset it but you can use anything. My 99’ civic is at 250k and still runs like new. It’s taking everything in me to not do a J,K, or B swap, like I intended when I got it a couple years ago. It just runs to good to rip it apart.
Old School: clean the rotor , clean the cap contacts, clean the plugs and regap. No cost problem solved. Done this many times back in the day on my own vehicles.
Nothing beats copper plugs for hot spark. Yes they need to be changed more often. A lot more often but they do perform much better during their short lifespan. If it's easy to change plugs copper is always a good choice.
They are copper core not copper tipped. ... The tips are made of another metal, Iridium platinum steel. But here the other twist, most are resistive too about 5000 ohms
The narrow gapped plug was the one you dropped. Probably landed on that end and hence reduced the gap.
Was just going to say this. It emphasizes why Ray always says never drop the plug down the hole.
Ditto.
"comment generator" boost the comments and algorithm 😅
I saw that myself 🙂
That is possible.
23 years old Honda and still running with plugs that can be changed without removing a rats nest of wires, air intakes, boxes and brackets making it affordably fixable. It would drive me nuts having noise from the power steering and the hood popper working though. 🙂
Got a 2001 Honda Accord. 280K miles. Like a Tonka Toy to work on. Looks like crap. Runs like a top.
My 1987 Civic wagon daily driver just crossed 250k miles, original everything. It still runs like it did when new, and looks the part as well.
@@GeneralSulla I had a 2001 Honda Stream (Civic derivative) and would still have it now if the auto box hadn't failed around 80K. All of the electrics still worked, none of the switches etc broke, seats held together. But Hondas aren't immortal. The auto box problem was subject to a recall in the early 2000s and apparently not fixed on the one I got used. It was too late when I found out. A remanufactured box was installed but then the torque converter gave up the ghost. Apart from that the only issue was that it was heavy on brake pads and rotors. No I didn't drive it in sport mode like an idiot 😉
@@GeneralSulla The accord is an "acquired taste", fantastic cars though!
You can thank the epa for changing that.
Please do not think we get tired of seeing the "basic" videos like tune ups, fluid exchanges, brake jobs and things like that. I always learn another new piece of information no matter how many of these videos you make. 😀 Also, any new updates on your truck upgrades?
Totally agree. For those driveway mechanics amongst us without access to lifts, the videos showing maintenance items under the bonnet (hood) and whilst the car is on the ground are very interesting learning experiences.
RAINMAN WRAP INSULATED COPPER WIRE AROUND THE SCREWDRIVER. FROM THE HANDLE TO THE TIP. THEN PUT THE WIRE ENDS ON A 12 VOLT BATTERY. JUST A SHORT TIME. IT WILL BE MAGNITIZED.
Someone paid attention in science class 🤓
How
Perfect video to show how important BASIC maintenance is.
Agree
Ray I would like to thank you for using your turn signal due to cost of turn signal fluid these days some of us are to cheap to use them anymore 😊
Oh, yeah but the engineers will figure out
a 45degree steering wheel angle sensor to activate automatic turn signals[?]...(wiring nightmare!)
@LDS/aes
Ray could sell the old cap to a museum.
It is such a joy seeing older rigs still getting used and maintained. A great video on the basic tune up. Isn't it amazing what new plugs and such can do for a car🙂
I wish you could still work on cars like that, so much easier to work on but that is why you are in business.
Love cars like that….. 200k but runs sweet! They are priceless….
It's worth the extra minute to double check the gap on all the new plugs. I have found the factory gaps to be off.
A clear timing cover let's you see the condition of the timing belt without disassembly. It is intact, USEFUL.
I want one for my '97 Prelude then.
@@chriskline3763 Unfortunately, while they make them for a couple of makes and models yours isn't one. But I did see where people modified the original and put a plex window in, that would be easy to do.
@repaid1317 thanks for the heads up.
Wish my ford ranger had a clear valve cover so I could of seen the timing chain and cassette before it blew up.
they use chains for the I4s?
For those that don't know... the number 11 at the end of the spark plug part number stands for 1.1 mm, or .043 in gap.
OK I'll take your word for it.
I thought it meant that the spark went to 11. Which is one more than ten.
I was thinking Spinal Tap! Lol
Thx for the info!
Kinda of funny he pullout the old plug measure gap. I thought that should be about 40 . Lucky guess.
Good to know to what an old plug had eroded, but I still ensure the proper gap on new ones. I don't believe in "pre-gapped" sparkplugs.
you dropped the plug with the closed up gap. That is probably why it was vastly different to the others.
Exactly what I was going to say. Also, he said he was going to keep them in order but the last one got put at the end (not the position it came from).
Probably a " comment generator "
Just like leaving the blue paper towels in the engine from the last video before he reinstalled the intake manifold 😅
@ricebike Or the "corner of doom" corner with the "door of death". 😂😂
Total tune up recommended plugs wires,coils,cap,etc.
Was just about to say the same thing lol
I use wooden clothes pins and put numbers on them one through eight and they fit nicely on the spark plug wire. Keep everything in order.
And I bet your pretty handy on laundry day also...
And a four cylinder could put Ray into 40 minutes of confusion and to desperately reach out to us for urgent assistance...
That's a red Mallory series distributer cap...problem solved.
We didn't get a bore-us-scope inspection either😡
My laundry skills are ok, in my young military days I had to learn to do laundry, iron, and keep the kit looking tiptop.
I had a 2000 civic with same engine, loved that car. Simple to fix everything.
Great video, like to see that you didn’t have to remove half of the engine to get to the plugs. Would have liked to have seen what the power steering problem was.
Air in the lines, must have a leak.
The crimps in the hoses start letting go after 15 years or so, and the pump's seals usually start to weep about that time too. Not to mention there's one or two non-crimped hoses that age out and weep.
Very true, the heat takes it's toll on 'em.
It’s probably just low on fluid. It’ll whine and groan like that when it’s low.
I suspect that spark plugs are easy to service on most inline 4 cylinder engines.
UA-cam gave me a Honda dealership service commercial while watching this 😂. thanks for another great video!
Wow - an actual distributor and rotor 😮
I come from the days when new points, condenser, rotor, cap, plugs, wires, and air filter were the complete tuneup. My, how times have changed.
Fun in a wet climate, these things like it dry.
As long as the gasket is good, it's in Floriduh. About to get 7" of rain tomorrow. @@jochenstacker7448
Thank you, Ray. You just helped me diagnose a 1990 Honda.
Ray has grown up now. Now he does Real Clicks with a Torque Wrench!
Those motors are as bulletproof as they come. Routine maintenance and the skies the limit on miles.
Ah yes, the good old days when you could change plugs without removing the engine.
Honda V6's are also pretty easy to work as the intake sits within the bank so all 6 plugs are easily reachable without removing anything.
Dude, I have a 90's vehicle that requires you to remove/loosen the steering shaft to get at one. You also should remove the tire, unless you're skinny enough to squeeze into the wheel well. Engineers don't consider repairability all that much. They do some, but there's a very, very low limit to their consideration of that. Always been that way.
@@williameldridge9382 Was it a Renault?
29 thou was the one that dropped
@@basbass429 A Renault is a French car, if you have the internet you can do a search for it. Hope this helps.🤔
Naughty! Naughty! Always start the thread by hand and not the electric wrench.
These older Hondas work quite well. I have a 2000 Accord with 228,000 miles. Partially restoring it with Honda parts (removing the aftermarket Chinese garbage parts) Other than needing some fresh paint on the hood, roof and trunk lid, it’s a great drive.
my 200 civic ex is literally falling apart but I can still hit the key and fires up first time even with a bad TQ it runs and drive.
Lol my accord has 233k and I have the same problem with the paint not to mention rust. It's getting harder to find OEM parts now.
That's an oldie but goodie there. You can actually get to the plugs. still has cap and rotor. Nice job getting it straight.
I don’t think I have ever taken off a distributor cap and not seen erosion on the surfaces it came with the technology 👍🇬🇧🤓
Friend of mine asked me if I could help him with a misfire on his Toyota Echo. Real cute little car with a tiny 4cyl engine.
Sure 'nuff, misfire on cylinder 3, and it went to 2 when the coil pack was swapped.
Figured, needed new plugs, so pulled them out - the gap was so large the gapper didn't have a big enough blade.
Asked him when he last had the plugs changed (with the car at 199,000 miles). "Uhh, you have to change those?"
Turned out the car had tried so hard to get spark cross those gaps that it basically blew out the one coil pack.
His other three were still good, and no doubt were very happy to have properly gapped plugs again.
Fun Fact: You can reset the oil life indicator on the cluster by inserting the key into the small vertical slot next to it. Sell em an oil change too. ;)
I love this episode of Ray , it reminds me of a father teaching his sons many years ago . Great diagnosis and repair next step fix the steering noise .
Lol last few seconds when you said “Dave not here man!” I kid you not, I said the same thing out loud! Great minds think alike.
It's fun watching you work on the old stuff. Watching you and Jimmy, Making it work completes my UA-cam day.
Memory lane. I actually recognized the parts from ancient (1960s) history. Thanks!
Nice to see good ole metal valve covers once in a while 😅
Routine maintenance can solve quite a bit. Firing order is 1342. Rotation, i never Looked. The gaps on THOSE plugs look too wide.
One of the best cars made love the Honda Civic's from the 90s/beginning 2000.
I love the self ejection coli when you bumped the key...lol
Dave's not here man! LOL I caught that one.
Great vid as always. Thx
👏👏 congratulations Ray completed replacement of four plugs and wires 👏👏
Glad I came across your helpful video!!! My check engine light came on and all 4 of the Cylinders misfired! Replaced the whole set like in your video and now it works perfectly fine!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Nice fix. Old Hondas run forever if you take a little care with them
the old Hondas often run forever even when you don't take care of them- and this is a perfect example of non-care.
@@WilliamLaakkonen Amen. I have a Vette for my weekend car and a 2017 Civic for a daily driver
I approve this message. My 2001 Honda Accord, well maintained, has 280K+ miles and looks like crap, but runs like a top. A daily driver.
Nice job Ray , you probably know now why the plug had smaller gap LOL
Video was good! I decided I’m going to keep my 2019 Toyota Tacoma and 2016 Honda Civic till the wheels fall off so I’m watching random repair videos to learn the engine
Mattress is still on the hill ? Maybe a new mattress ? Ray, I love your analytic analysis. I am also subscribed to the "WIFE UNIT ". Congrats on the one year anniversary.
156th! HOWDY! Good morning Ray and the wife unit! With the assistance of the new employees! Roger in Pierre South Dakota
No need to check the gap on four new plugs when the first one you check is ok. The factory never makes mistakes gapping new plugs.
Noticed that too!!
Thank you for this video.. I'm having similar issues with my 99 civic... I will go through the same checks that you did.. I will update you on final result.
What about the power steering?
Working on older cars give you so much space is unbelievable
Hello from Indiana, for the algorithm. Have a beautiful day
Really a change but a good change to see the old wires & cap
Yes, I looked back, and I did watch part 5. You are correct you did finish the engine. I guess I was just looking towards the engine being installed and tested. Keep up the good work.
Didn't like dropping the plugs into the hole. that's why the socket has a rubber sleeve to hold the plug and to start the screw it in. You could have cross treated the plug hole the way you used the power wernch.
Yeah, thread by hand for the first few turns to be sure... I stay away from power tools in that area though
Ya I’m suprised he did that, and he only checked the 1 new spark plug gap. I would have checked them all.
Cross threading is nature's loctite
Good morning Ray. The way that engine sounds like it’s needs some Ray’s magic touch. Ray wins at the end.
Wife drove one of our Accords with bad plug and killed the upstream oxygen sensor. Same symptoms of rough run and flashing money light.
Anyone else remember when we used to “recondition” spark plugs? Used a small fixture, made by I think AC delco, connected to shop air. The bottom end of the plug was hit with a few blasts of a fine abrasive to clean the fouling, regap, and you were good for another 10K.
Still have that tool
Many times especially on my 2-stroke motorcycle and chainsaw plugs. Back in them days, a set of plugs would foul up in about 5000 miles, less on the 2-strokes.
JCWhitney had the sand blast sand for the cleaner.
B16,B18 and K20 series are brilliant engines and looked after with regular service will last a very long time.
That’s D series though 🤷♂️
That was a D16Y7 (non Vtec)
Their not that bright , but thems some purdy gud engines
wit the proper mod's a d16 can do pretty good. I will stik with my y8 till it shits the bed.@@bullbutter9699
It’s very informative to pull the wires off and look for sparks, but I’ve had several very bad experiences doing that.
It's a nice bonus that you have a bridge with a steep grade right by your shop. The ultimate tool to make a misfire show itself. I love those old Hondas. There were so many up here in the Northeast that rotted out and were sent to the scrap heap with perfect engines and transmissions. What a shame.
Do you ever use dielectric grease on the distributor connections?
That would possibly cause extra resistance. Putting plug end , the grease is supposed to only touch the metal bottom outside of the plug reducing the chance of carbon tracking(electricity leaking) and makes getting the wires off, the next possible time easier, you try not to get too much grease that would touch the electrical connection. Dielectric grease is a non-conducting grease.
@@Thestargazer56 The other place I've used dielectric grease was for the wire to the horn, which was gathering a lot of corrosion causing the horn to fail.
Keep the moisture out, prevent the corrosion!
feels pretty good on the shaft
I had a 2000 manual for several years, was a great car! Actually miss it!
Nothing like having fun while working
I had a 96 civic with the d16. Great car. MSD ignition was the best thing i ever did to that car.
Good morning form Canada Ray! Have a great day!
I did exactly the same job on my Mom's Civic (plus an oil change). I think it took me longer in line at the parts store than it took to do this easy job.
Personally, I don't care for Hondas. They just don't fit me, or my style of driving.
However, that doesn't mean Hondas are not GREAT cars. I actually recommend Hondas for anyone on a budget, or are learning to drive, and take care of a car.
This car you just did is PERFECT for first time owners, or owners on a budget. You can get parts anywhere, and the car is not real fussy about exact OEM parts like my VWs are.
When I replaced the oem factory plug wire one piece wire and routing rack junk on the 5.7L hemi ‘04 ram 1500 with Taylor wires the wires came numbered. Nice touch.
Spark plugs have a seal between the metal and the porcelain. If you see a brown ring around the joint, which these plugs have, that seal is blown. That's reason enough to replace the plugs even if they look fine otherwise.
Spark plugs have a "Powder Filling" that helps provide a gas tight seal between the insulator and metal shell. NGK has a cut away if you look for it you will find it.
Nice an simple. Good easy job close to end of day.
Well good morning Ray 🌄 looks like it's time for a engine flush.
I've got a 98 with 500,000 miles and climbing also runs very good, mine is a manual though lol
Seriously? I’ve heard of 300,000 even had one myself that had nitrous and ran 14’s in the 1/4 mile but never 500,000!
LOL! I had a 1998 Civic HX 5sp. manual. Sold it in 2009 for 50% of its initial retail. Miss that car. It was Soooo reliable. Had the same engine 1.6 ltr VTech. I used to keep it MINT all the time.
It must have been a joy to work on a car you didn't have to take an intake manifold off to change the spark plugs.
nice simple repair well done
I've seen dropped spark plugs close gaps more times than not. Silly Ray. Keep up the great contents.
The kid across the street had a 95 civic with 60,000 miles on it, I used to hear him cranking the hell out of it everyday and finally it would start, one day he was parked by my house and this time it refused to start and I could hear the battery getting weaker, I went to him asked him to pop the hood, I removed what once wers spark plugs, the electrode was almost completely gone, I told him to go to the zone which is a couple of blocks away and get four new plug, I put them in and it fired right up, I had never seen worse plugs ever.
the plug that measured .022, was likely the plug you dropped. It closed the gap when it hit the floor.
I have not done one of those for at least ten years they were easy as to fix.
Nice. Hello from Capetown 🇿🇦👌💯🇺🇲🇺🇲
2000 Hona Civic: considered the best car ever (by me anyway)
Distributor ,nostalgic
Nice simple tune up for a change. Love the loose radio and noisy PS!
I wish all repairs were that easy. Lol. Took a trans fluid shower today diagnosing a cooler leak. Turned out that as I was cleaning the residual fluid up to get a better look, the aluminum line broke off as soon as I touched it, WHILE IT WAS RUNNING. 😩😂😂
Now this motor is easy to maintain..
Ray the mattress is still there haha
Memory's, did the same thing with a jeep. 13 to 19.5 mpg. Put in the right plugs and new wires and cap/ roter
The maintenance reminder under the speedo is to tell you when its due for a tune up (but no one pays attention to it). Says to use the key to reset it but you can use anything. My 99’ civic is at 250k and still runs like new. It’s taking everything in me to not do a J,K, or B swap, like I intended when I got it a couple years ago. It just runs to good to rip it apart.
That was a great diag. and pretty easy tune up considering todays autos.
Man i miss working on them old Honda D series engines lol. Such simple machines 🥺
When I saw the sparks on the coils, I thought you were going to recommend new coils.
Love that "Gravity!"
Those almost certainly were the OEM plugs, judging from their condition. As the great Eric O might say, "there's your problem, lady!" :-P
very entertaining yet informative. thanks
Great video thanks ray!
Old School: clean the rotor , clean the cap contacts, clean the plugs and regap. No cost problem solved. Done this many times back in the day on my own vehicles.
The cap and rotor makes sense but to clean those plugs? Absolutely a waste of time
Cars can last several life times if very well cared for and maintained, it is one of the things I love about them. Great job as always Mr Ray 😊
you dropped the plug which caused the closer gap cause all the other plugs are close to same gap
Nothing beats copper plugs for hot spark. Yes they need to be changed more often. A lot more often but they do perform much better during their short lifespan. If it's easy to change plugs copper is always a good choice.
They are copper core not copper tipped. ... The tips are made of another metal, Iridium platinum steel. But here the other twist, most are resistive too about 5000 ohms
Good day ray and hi Dave
I'm not sure if you mentioned it but the plug with the small gap (29) was the one that dropped.