I'ts beyond me why half the people on this thread are comparing these two legendary artists. They are phenomenal and compliment each other, it's not a contest....
A lot of people saying here that John is better than Santana... But how many other guitarists he called to play with him? I have a deep respect by Mc Laughlin to accept Carlos with him. And by Santana, because he don't have afraid to play with better musicians.
I'm surprised at the number of (presumably) guitarists who come on here a criticise Santana's lack of skill. Technique is only half of the equation, what you do with it is the other half. Now I'll accept that Santana seems to be trying to play like McLaughlin, but we have no way of knowing if that's because he feels that's what this piece needs or that he can't think of anything else, and given his rich history of creating some beautiful guitar solos I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I suppose we should also remember that by this time Sanatana was suffering from arthritis pretty badly. Basically, if Carlos' style had developed in a different direction, maybe he'd have wound up playing just like John, but then we'd have been denied all those great solos that he did turn out, and we already have one John McLaughlin anyway. As for John himself. I can never get over the fact that he is one of the few 'speed-demons' of the guitar who appears to know every note he's playing. Other guitarists can play as fast, or even faster, but they're mostly all thinking in terms of riffs, which they rattle out and fit together. Analyse John's solos and there's no repetition. He seems to be able to think at the same speed at which he plays. His synapses must be on something.
This is a very, very good comment and I agree. I also think Carlos has always had a ton of humility and would be the first to admit he has been very fortunate to be on stage with John McLaughlin. Circa 1973, Carlos (in my opinion) was doing the very best work of his whole career. A great example is the solo in "Yours Is the Light" which is on a level he never achieved before or since. Caravanserai, Welcome, and even parts of Borboletta are amazing. And the album he did with John M., of course. If you look at the trajectory the 2 guitarists have been on since that time (1973-ish), John McLaughlin just keep plowing forward like a freight train as a guitarist. Whereas Carlos Santana, as a guitar player, didn't seem to accomplish as much. There were moments of brilliance here or there (Milagro and Spirits Dancing in the Flesh) come to mind. But overall, Carlos has stagnated in comparison with John McLaughlin. But neither guitarist's greatness can be questioned.
It's all good, no one can really do McLaughlin stuff so of course Carlos can't and never could have either, so good thing he did not try. Simply knowing "your place" can help to make you a great, confident, excellent sounding musician.
This is pure ecstasy. Nothing short from these two masters. And the band carried them on their magic carpet thru the galaxy, past the nebula rainbows and reached out and touched the face of God.
I was a freshman at Ohio Univ when this album came out. Love Devotion And Surrender! I was so lucky to see Santana and Mahavishnu Orchestra and Weather Report at the same concert!!!!!!!!!!!
You were lucky to see that. The mid-1970's was the height of the interest in fusion jazz. For example, I saw Weather Report, Al Dimeola, and the Lenny White Group together. This was Winterland Ballroom in SF in the Fall of 1977. One of the best shows I ever saw.
I work with an older guy who had Carlos and John staying over at his house back in the 70s (at different times). Apparently John is a very nice guy and Carlos is a bit grumpy in the mornings.
For years we were waiting for this , what a gift from Carlos and John, this song has really something special, so much beautiful harmony ! How can someone dislike this, is that ***into ur ears or what ? its not mainstream enough for you ? sorry for no verse no chorus, it's just MUSIC pure music!
R u serious lol? Santana has what many guitarists won't never have: a sound, a signature, a touch! it's why he's respected by so many musicians! Carlos doesn't make guitar exercices he makes music and if u were listening u would see this, like John does in his style, its also stupid reducing mclaughlin to a technical guitarist, he's above all a fantastic musician and master of harmony. At the contrary its a perfect and complementary pairing, making this musical experience so special!
Ricordo quando, negli anni '70, uscì l'album "Love, devotion & surrender" con una formazione stellare (Larry young allo yamaha organ tanto per dirne uno..) che io ed i miei amici abbiamo passato intere serate ad ascoltarlo e commentarlo: fu un grande periodo per la rock music, con tante nuove idee, spesso rivoluzionarie, ed incroci di stli e di musicisti (come in questo caso). Thanks
Oh, if they only had a video playing this back in 73!! The Chicago show, Toronto show, Santa Monica!! It's History folks!! At least they were able to do this again!!!
It takes a couple of songs, for Santana to warm up, on this video. But once he does get into the the zone. Then, it's more fun for the both of these greats. McLaughlin, really brings out the best in Santana. Nice to hear them together again on stage. Great respect for this innovative music.
This IS the music of Trancendence... I can still remember the feelings when I first heard this album... They recaptured the VIBE here 30+ years later... Peace !
Maybe the most powerfull fusiontrack I know. Full of spirituality, the driving background contrasts the smooth voices. The sound of my youth, I love it!
They have been showing the whole concert late at night at " ghiaccio bollente" tv program in Italy on RAI5. And here I am, 3 am watching it over and over every time they make it available. Excellent!
I have listened to the Love Devotion Surrender album constantly since the mid seventies, and still it's one of the most exciting and emotive recordings I've ever heard........ along with Bach's cello suites. A wide contrast in some ways, but the effects on the soul are the same. Wonderful!.
Quel bonheur de voir cela ! Quarante années sont passées et ils nous jouent ce titres ,qui figurait sur un album, ou il y avait une photo de Shri Chinmoy , leur maître spirituel à l'époque ... Un superbe album très original...Merci à Carlos et John pour cette expression de l'Amour ! A Love suprême ! I LOVE IT
and if u listened to santana over the years, u will notice his trademark sustained crying guitar sound which is very distinctive. his style is simple yet littered with soulful phrasing and he is an example of tasteful playing. always full of restraint and economical playing plus the ability to soar higher normally towards the end when the more energetic riff are showcased.
That lady drummer is spectacular in skill! I've not seen a better one; though, men drummers and best in the world are posted for years all over the world! It's time to honor our women in Jazz. She is the best drummer lady I've ever heard and one of the best drummers of our time, period!
Fantastici meravigliosi io a 15 anni sono andata a Montreux a vederli con un amica un concerto leggendario anno 69 /70 senza dire niente ai genitori ne è valsa la pena❤❤❤
The original studio album was a masterpiece to listen to back in '73(?) and this song is one I have listened to hundreds of times and it still moves me to tears. These men, in their primes, were some of the best. You just do not hear virtuoso work like this anymore, and certainly nothing that moves me like this song (maybe Numb by Mr. Gilmour). BTW, I think it was Michael Walden on drums for this studio album...
I keep meaning to look up these two playing together and I am glad I did. No doubt McLaughlin has the broader repertoire and the better tuned technique, Santana's touch still shines awful bright! (Not that Mc is any slouch when it comes to feel) McLaughlin sounds more mind expanding, whereas Santana has a way of zooming into to a point of great intensity at the drop of a hat. Must be an awful lot of fun playing together
Read many of the comments, mostly positive. This album these two monster guitarist did together was a ground breaker. Spiritual influence is quite common with musicians. They exist on a higher plane. The phrase "devine inspiration " is common to music composers. Sometimes it just comes from above, God sometimes likes a good tune.
Sometimes I feel like Santana is boring, sometimes I feel like John is ridiculous. But now I like both of them. And I like seeing how different they are when they play together..... 🙂
Well said. Some people have no frame of reference and yet feel entitled to mouth off, anyway. “Even in the mid-'60s, he had a sound and a lyricism that I absolutely loved. The way he would play was the perfect complement to what I would do. We played last year in Switzerland (at the 2012 Montreux Jazz Festival)… It was lovely. We went on stage, and it was like time had stood still. A very special guitar player and a very special human being. “ -- John Mclaughlin
Very sad how so many people thumbs a up the top comment here. Carlos knows he is not at JM's level. If you watch the full concert video (posted here also) Carlos calls John " the one and only maestro" (master). That's a big statement. I am sure JM would be very saddened to see these comments.
I'm assuming that since there are two drummers and a percussionist, they're playing the correct rhythm patterns, but it's a little disquieting the way the rest of the group are playing a different pattern. It seems to meet up twice a bar, but I'm never quite sure who to tap my foot to. I notice that at one point one of the keyboard players seems to be conducting. Maybe he was struggling too. As for why there's two drummers. Has anyone considered the possibility that Santana and McLaughlin both bought their own groups with them?
A friend recently told me that he had counted 88 total LPs/CDs in the credits of Carlos Santana. He is also listed as a Guest Performer on an additional 55 albums. His "Supernatural" LP was graced with 8 Grammy Awards. The remarkable thing about him is that he seems to reinvent himself over and over and yet can stay true to his original sound at the drop of a hat. Words like "Iconic", "Super Star", "Magician" and a hundred other descriptions all fall short of his impact on so many genre of Rock Music. People will say that Hendrix or Randy California were the best rock era guitarists, but we will never really know as they died so young. Carlos is the King as he can play all they styles and has had a career that has blanketed six decades. In 1972 Santana was suffering from artistic lethargy. The band was in the studio to lay down tracks for the LP Caravanserai. Santana was always and still is very quick at turning over albums. But he was searching for something new. Carlos brought in several studio musicians to add a sound of jazz and fusion to the distinctive Santana sound. Caravanserai was a very different album than anything that Santana had done before. Caravanserai was also a major hit and critically acclaimed work. Gregg Rolie and Neal Schon decided that it was time to leave the band after the completion of Caravanserai. They were hard core rockers and did not like the new direction the band was taking. So it was a time of celebration for a wonderful piece of music, and a loss of two old friends and collaborators. Do not cry for Rolie and Schon, they would go on to be a part of Journey churning out hits for a couple decades. Caravanserai came to the attention of acclaimed guitarist Mahavishnu John McLaughlin. He also heard that Santana was meditating before concerts and so McLaughlin introduced Carlos to Harri Krishna and his Guru. The two became instant friends. The two would produce the album, "Love, Devotion and Surrender," released July, 1973. In the late summer of 1973 Santana was touring with Mahavishnu John McLaughlin on the tour to support their joint compositions as well as some cuts from the soon to be released (November. 1973) Santana LP, titled "Welcome". Though not a huge financial success, it was still a certified Gold LP and started a new era in the career of Santana, and also found him a lot of new listeners. From that point forward, it started a trend for Santana fans to never anticipate what Carlos would ever do again. It started a trend of musical collaborations and the start of a spiritual journey as well. Some of the fans were not happy and during the concert at the Chicago Stadium, the hard core predominantly Hispanic fans, felt that the goofy Harri Krishna's had stolen their idol. Unfortunately more than one Krishna was violently tossed into the security pit by the stage. Mahavishnu John McLaughlin was one of the great jazz and fusion guitar players of that and any other era. McLaughlin was looked upon in the world of guitar players as perhaps the fastest shredder in the world. Today the combination of the two guitar styles is looked upon as one of the great collaborations of the Rock Era.
McLaughlin is a lot more than just a "shredder," he is the primary reason Jazz-Rock fusion, East-West fusion and Flamenco-Jazz fusion even exist as newly created genres of music, far more than Miles Davis who gets all the credit but who needed McLaughlin on both his "Bitches Brew" and "Jack Johnson" albums before he could make his first fusion album.
Benny Reitfeld on the bass channelling the awesome spirit of the great and sadly too soon and long departed Doug Rauch, who I managed to see play the once, in London on 15th Nov 1973 with Santana at The Rainbow Theatre - still the best concert of all 350+ bands I have seen over 50 years
This is a nice live take on the incredibly intense original recording. I believe the original take of The Life Divine contains the very best McLaughlin solo ever recorded, with Carlos' work equally incandescent. It could hardly be equalled, but many of the elements that made the studio recording so great are here, including the nods to the Larry Young organ sounds, the vocals and the great drumming. Sure glad they did this show and that it was recorded, I have always loved this music.
@brianking3698 here's the solo order: on A Love Supreme, McLaughlin starts the soloing, and also, Let Us Go Into The House of the Lord. On The Life Divine, Santana solos first. Also, the tone of the two players is very different, Santana's being rounder and smoother, with his signature Latin influenced blues licks. McLaughlin's tone is more aggressive, and his note choices reflect the greater harmonic sophistication of a jazz-based improviser, as well as his Indian musical influences. Both players are fast, Santana having a slight edge in speed when tremolo picking. The McLaughlin solo on The Life Divine is simply astounding, to my ears his best ever.
SIMPLY SUBLIM AND THE BEST GUITARIST MY BELOVED CARLOS! !! YOU ARE LIFE! !!!😇😍💪👂💝👍👌✌✊☝👏👏👐👐👑🎸🎶🎵🍸🍸🌴🌵🍀🌻🌻🌻🌈🌞🌊🌎🏆💎💎💎💌🔝🔱💯✅✅✔✔🔥💥💨💦💫🌠🌟🌟🌟✨❇ ESTHER FROM FLORENCE ITALY WITH LOVE 😇💜💝✌✌
Fantastic to watch it live! This piece was written by John and the studio version has one of the most amazing guitar solos ever played - John on the Rex Bogue Double Rainbow. Amazing to watch John playing it again, and playing great! He is the BEST!
Is this the only time you've heard Carlos play ??? because you've clearly not heard his music over the past 40+ years, and you aren't aware that they are friends and have played with each other.
Santana i grandi indimenticabili musicisti leggendari che non esistono più ora la musica è tutta schifezza loro iconica della musica di successi planetari the best of the besth viva i Santana mitici ❤❤❤❤
I'ts beyond me why half the people on this thread are comparing these two legendary artists. They are phenomenal and compliment each other, it's not a contest....
We simply can't take people's prejudices away. We are looking at two guitarists, the degree of guitar skill of each is observable by the audience.
All they know is G3 wankery, they think everything is a competition.
@@kingboobs20 Satch, Steve Morse and Eric Johnson was pretty good. Experience Hendrix another side project but too glitzy....
Art is subjective. The end
Their album together is one of the greatest guitar records, in my top 10!
Definitely 😂❤😂❤🎉🎉🎉
A lot of people saying here that John is better than Santana... But how many other guitarists he called to play with him? I have a deep respect by Mc Laughlin to accept Carlos with him. And by Santana, because he don't have afraid to play with better musicians.
Nothing to be afraid of playing with better musicians. It adds up to popularity.
I'm surprised at the number of (presumably) guitarists who come on here a criticise Santana's lack of skill. Technique is only half of the equation, what you do with it is the other half. Now I'll accept that Santana seems to be trying to play like McLaughlin, but we have no way of knowing if that's because he feels that's what this piece needs or that he can't think of anything else, and given his rich history of creating some beautiful guitar solos I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I suppose we should also remember that by this time Sanatana was suffering from arthritis pretty badly. Basically, if Carlos' style had developed in a different direction, maybe he'd have wound up playing just like John, but then we'd have been denied all those great solos that he did turn out, and we already have one John McLaughlin anyway.
As for John himself. I can never get over the fact that he is one of the few 'speed-demons' of the guitar who appears to know every note he's playing. Other guitarists can play as fast, or even faster, but they're mostly all thinking in terms of riffs, which they rattle out and fit together. Analyse John's solos and there's no repetition. He seems to be able to think at the same speed at which he plays. His synapses must be on something.
This is a very, very good comment and I agree. I also think Carlos has always had a ton of humility and would be the first to admit he has been very fortunate to be on stage with John McLaughlin. Circa 1973, Carlos (in my opinion) was doing the very best work of his whole career. A great example is the solo in "Yours Is the Light" which is on a level he never achieved before or since. Caravanserai, Welcome, and even parts of Borboletta are amazing. And the album he did with John M., of course. If you look at the trajectory the 2 guitarists have been on since that time (1973-ish), John McLaughlin just keep plowing forward like a freight train as a guitarist. Whereas Carlos Santana, as a guitar player, didn't seem to accomplish as much. There were moments of brilliance here or there (Milagro and Spirits Dancing in the Flesh) come to mind. But overall, Carlos has stagnated in comparison with John McLaughlin. But neither guitarist's greatness can be questioned.
It's all good, no one can really do McLaughlin stuff so of course Carlos can't and never could have either, so good thing he did not try. Simply knowing "your place" can help to make you a great, confident, excellent sounding musician.
The Life Divine-
All love and gratitude 🙏 beloved Carlos, John and friends. Truly A Love Supreme. 🕉
This is pure ecstasy. Nothing short from these two masters. And the band carried them on their magic carpet thru the galaxy, past the nebula rainbows and reached out and touched the face of God.
"Love Devotion Surrender" - came out in around 1973. It's a stunning record. Both players have incredible intensity in their own ways!!!
I was a freshman at Ohio Univ when this album came out. Love Devotion And Surrender! I was so lucky to see Santana and Mahavishnu Orchestra and Weather Report at the same concert!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow! That must have been great!
Holy shit! What a bill! I'd of killed to see that!
Wow, incredible
You were lucky to see that. The mid-1970's was the height of the interest in fusion jazz. For example, I saw Weather Report, Al Dimeola, and the Lenny White Group together. This was Winterland Ballroom in SF in the Fall of 1977. One of the best shows I ever saw.
I work with an older guy who had Carlos and John staying over at his house back in the 70s (at different times). Apparently John is a very nice guy and Carlos is a bit grumpy in the mornings.
For years we were waiting for this , what a gift from Carlos and John, this song has really something special, so much beautiful harmony ! How can someone dislike this, is that ***into ur ears or what ? its not mainstream enough for you ? sorry for no verse no chorus, it's just MUSIC pure music!
I was fortunate enough to see Santana and McLaughlin in concert with their big bands in Frankfurt Germany 1973. A show worth remembering.
R u serious lol? Santana has what many guitarists won't never have: a sound, a signature, a touch! it's why he's respected by so many musicians! Carlos doesn't make guitar exercices he makes music and if u were listening u would see this, like John does in his style, its also stupid reducing mclaughlin to a technical guitarist, he's above all a fantastic musician and master of harmony. At the contrary its a perfect and complementary pairing, making this musical experience so special!
McLaughlin singing and fingerpicking in one video. Rare!
Pretty fantastic -
Ricordo quando, negli anni '70, uscì l'album "Love, devotion & surrender" con una formazione stellare (Larry young allo yamaha organ tanto per dirne uno..) che io ed i miei amici abbiamo passato intere serate ad ascoltarlo e commentarlo: fu un grande periodo per la rock music, con tante nuove idee, spesso rivoluzionarie, ed incroci di stli e di musicisti (come in questo caso). Thanks
Ciao...Un saluto da Trento
Oh, if they only had a video playing this back in 73!! The Chicago show, Toronto show, Santa Monica!! It's History folks!! At least they were able to do this again!!!
It takes a couple of songs, for Santana to warm up, on this video. But once he does get into the the zone. Then, it's more fun for the both of these greats. McLaughlin, really brings out the best in Santana. Nice to hear them together again on stage. Great respect for this innovative music.
Excelentes músicos. Es una pena que aquí en México no se le promocione y conozca tanto como en otras partes del mundo. Bien Santana!
Echoes of John Coltrane's a Love Supreme...beautifully played piece
This IS the music of Trancendence... I can still remember the feelings when I first
heard this album... They recaptured the VIBE here 30+ years later... Peace !
Maybe the most powerfull fusiontrack I know. Full of spirituality, the driving background contrasts the smooth voices. The sound of my youth, I love it!
John: a world class guitar player.
Magnificent, two masters together, what a gift. Thanks also to that band, Dennis Chambers, Bennie Reitveld, the late Reco Reyes Wow.
The Life Divine is such a beautiful composition...what a pleasure watching it "live". Thanks Carlos
The song was written by John McLaughlin :-)
I did own this album at one point. Great to see a live performance with two top guitarists!
I am honored to hear your song!!!!!!!
Santana's tone is otherworldly and McLaughlin has not lost any of his talent.
They have been showing the whole concert late at night at " ghiaccio bollente" tv program in Italy on RAI5. And here I am, 3 am watching it over and over every time they make it available. Excellent!
Yep.. That's where I saw it a few times already. Great.
I have listened to the Love Devotion Surrender album constantly since the mid seventies, and still it's one of the most exciting and emotive recordings I've ever heard........ along with Bach's cello suites. A wide contrast in some ways, but the effects on the soul are the same. Wonderful!.
I feel a deep connection with the source with this song! Simply beyond amazing! Blessings!
They still sound the same as when they played the original together in 1972 on the Love, Devotion, Surrender album. :P
This is from the "Love, Devotion and Surrender"-album. It is nice to hear them perform this one live.
Quel bonheur de voir cela ! Quarante années sont passées et ils nous jouent ce titres ,qui figurait sur un album, ou il y avait une photo de Shri Chinmoy , leur maître spirituel à l'époque ... Un superbe album très original...Merci à Carlos et John pour cette expression de l'Amour ! A Love suprême ! I LOVE IT
Carlos has a way of singing right across the top of the musical mayhem making a perfect harmony
JUST saw this for the 1st time. I word to describe how I'm feeling? ORGASMIC
and I mean it too!! Such a great song!!
and if u listened to santana over the years, u will notice his trademark sustained crying guitar sound which is very distinctive. his style is simple yet littered with soulful phrasing and he is an example of tasteful playing. always full of restraint and economical playing plus the ability to soar higher normally towards the end when the more energetic riff are showcased.
this made me very happy, brings back the early seventies
That lady drummer is spectacular in skill! I've not seen a better one; though, men drummers and best in the world are posted for years all over the world! It's time to honor our women in Jazz. She is the best drummer lady I've ever heard and one of the best drummers of our time, period!
That drummer is none other than 'Mrs. Santana' Cindy Blackman! ua-cam.com/video/PWXneEHSv-c/v-deo.html
Carlos 's wife
A Masterpiece
Didn't think I'd see it played live fab 🙏
I’m totally astounded by John McLaughlin. He is quite frightening to watch, so in the moment. Head blown.
McLaughlin is in the top 3 greatest of all time, right between Jimmy Hendrix and Steve Morse.
I see by the comments the listeners are far better versed than i.thank you for the enlightenment.and enjoying this together!
Fantastici meravigliosi io a 15 anni sono andata a Montreux a vederli con un amica un concerto leggendario anno 69 /70 senza dire niente ai genitori ne è valsa la pena❤❤❤
Absolutely incredible ! Unbelievably powerful playing from all concerned, not just the two soloists.
the respect they have for one another is felt in their music...
i know how good these guys are and this female drummer is very very good never seen her before great stuff
this gave me the same chills I got when I heard the album for the first time...
The original studio album was a masterpiece to listen to back in '73(?) and this song is one I have listened to hundreds of times and it still moves me to tears. These men, in their primes, were some of the best. You just do not hear virtuoso work like this anymore, and certainly nothing that moves me like this song (maybe Numb by Mr. Gilmour). BTW, I think it was Michael Walden on drums for this studio album...
Nope. It was definitely Billy Cobham on drums for the album version. Walden joined Mahvishnu in 1974. Album came out in 1973.
After soon many years of hearing this its so wonderful seeing them recreate it live.
Saw them do this in the early 70's. Over the years one of my all time favorites .... 😎
I keep meaning to look up these two playing together and I am glad I did. No doubt McLaughlin has the broader repertoire and the better tuned technique, Santana's touch still shines awful bright! (Not that Mc is any slouch when it comes to feel) McLaughlin sounds more mind expanding, whereas Santana has a way of zooming into to a point of great intensity at the drop of a hat. Must be an awful lot of fun playing together
Read many of the comments, mostly positive. This album these two monster guitarist did together was a ground breaker. Spiritual influence is quite common with musicians. They exist on a higher plane. The phrase "devine inspiration " is common to music composers. Sometimes it just comes from above, God sometimes likes a good tune.
Carlos Santana plays with soul you can feel his music
Sometimes I feel like Santana is boring, sometimes I feel like John is ridiculous. But now I like both of them. And I like seeing how different they are when they play together..... 🙂
Well said. Some people have no frame of reference and yet feel entitled to mouth off, anyway.
“Even in the mid-'60s, he had a sound and a lyricism that I absolutely loved. The way he would play was the perfect complement to what I would do. We played last year in Switzerland (at the 2012 Montreux Jazz Festival)… It was lovely. We went on stage, and it was like time had stood still. A very special guitar player and a very special human being. “
-- John Mclaughlin
Very sad how so many people thumbs a up the top comment here. Carlos knows he is not at JM's level. If you watch the full concert video (posted here also) Carlos calls John " the one and only maestro" (master). That's a big statement. I am sure JM would be very saddened to see these comments.
Big statement, indeed. But it's up to the general public how they define the word, "maestro".
Great stuff. Nice that it takes two drummers to replace Billy Cobham.
Good observation!
pas de trop!
I was gonna ask about the drummer lol, just listened to this song for the first time, the drums are insane!
Always thought the drumming was every bit as good as the guitar playing on the original track, perhaps a co-equal Star to a legendary piece of music
I'm assuming that since there are two drummers and a percussionist, they're playing the correct rhythm patterns, but it's a little disquieting the way the rest of the group are playing a different pattern. It seems to meet up twice a bar, but I'm never quite sure who to tap my foot to. I notice that at one point one of the keyboard players seems to be conducting. Maybe he was struggling too.
As for why there's two drummers. Has anyone considered the possibility that Santana and McLaughlin both bought their own groups with them?
A friend recently told me that he had counted 88 total LPs/CDs in the credits of Carlos Santana. He is also listed as a Guest Performer on an additional 55 albums. His "Supernatural" LP was graced with 8 Grammy Awards.
The remarkable thing about him is that he seems to reinvent himself over and over and yet can stay true to his original sound at the drop of a hat. Words like "Iconic", "Super Star", "Magician" and a hundred other descriptions all fall short of his impact on so many genre of Rock Music.
People will say that Hendrix or Randy California were the best rock era guitarists, but we will never really know as they died so young. Carlos is the King as he can play all they styles and has had a career that has blanketed six decades.
In 1972 Santana was suffering from artistic lethargy. The band was in the studio to lay down tracks for the LP Caravanserai. Santana was always and still is very quick at turning over albums. But he was searching for something new. Carlos brought in several studio musicians to add a sound of jazz and fusion to the distinctive Santana sound. Caravanserai was a very different album than anything that Santana had done before. Caravanserai was also a major hit and critically acclaimed work.
Gregg Rolie and Neal Schon decided that it was time to leave the band after the completion of Caravanserai. They were hard core rockers and did not like the new direction the band was taking.
So it was a time of celebration for a wonderful piece of music, and a loss of two old friends and collaborators.
Do not cry for Rolie and Schon, they would go on to be a part of Journey churning out hits for a couple decades.
Caravanserai came to the attention of acclaimed guitarist Mahavishnu John McLaughlin. He also heard that Santana was meditating before concerts and so McLaughlin introduced Carlos to Harri Krishna and his Guru.
The two became instant friends. The two would produce the album, "Love, Devotion and Surrender," released July, 1973. In the late summer of 1973 Santana was touring with Mahavishnu John McLaughlin on the tour to support their joint compositions as well as some cuts from the soon to be released (November. 1973) Santana LP, titled "Welcome".
Though not a huge financial success, it was still a certified Gold LP and started a new era in the career of Santana, and also found him a lot of new listeners. From that point forward, it started a trend for Santana fans to never anticipate what Carlos would ever do again. It started a trend of musical collaborations and the start of a spiritual journey as well. Some of the fans were not happy and during the concert at the Chicago Stadium, the hard core predominantly Hispanic fans, felt that the goofy Harri Krishna's had stolen their idol. Unfortunately more than one Krishna was violently tossed into the security pit by the stage.
Mahavishnu John McLaughlin was one of the great jazz and fusion guitar players of that and any other era. McLaughlin was looked upon in the world of guitar players as perhaps the fastest shredder in the world.
Today the combination of the two guitar styles is looked upon as one of the great collaborations of the Rock Era.
McLaughlin is a lot more than just a "shredder," he is the primary reason Jazz-Rock fusion, East-West fusion and Flamenco-Jazz fusion even exist as newly created genres of music, far more than Miles Davis who gets all the credit but who needed McLaughlin on both his "Bitches Brew" and "Jack Johnson" albums before he could make his first fusion album.
I saw that Welcome concert,WOW!!!!
WOW ... rare performance from John McLaughlin
Benny Reitfeld on the bass channelling the awesome spirit of the great and sadly too soon and long departed Doug Rauch, who I managed to see play the once, in London on 15th Nov 1973 with Santana at The Rainbow Theatre - still the best concert of all 350+ bands I have seen over 50 years
This is a nice live take on the incredibly intense original recording. I believe the original take of The Life Divine contains the very best McLaughlin solo ever recorded, with Carlos' work equally incandescent. It could hardly be equalled, but many of the elements that made the studio recording so great are here, including the nods to the Larry Young organ sounds, the vocals and the great drumming. Sure glad they did this show and that it was recorded, I have always loved this music.
Heard the record in 76, mind blowing - although I have a hard time figuring out when John is playing.
@brianking3698 here's the solo order: on A Love Supreme, McLaughlin starts the soloing, and also, Let Us Go Into The House of the Lord. On The Life Divine, Santana solos first. Also, the tone of the two players is very different, Santana's being rounder and smoother, with his signature Latin influenced blues licks. McLaughlin's tone is more aggressive, and his note choices reflect the greater harmonic sophistication of a jazz-based improviser, as well as his Indian musical influences. Both players are fast, Santana having a slight edge in speed when tremolo picking. The McLaughlin solo on The Life Divine is simply astounding, to my ears his best ever.
Great lineup
Fantastique! merci beaucoup pour ce ShoW
SIMPLY SUBLIM AND THE BEST GUITARIST MY BELOVED CARLOS! !! YOU ARE LIFE! !!!😇😍💪👂💝👍👌✌✊☝👏👏👐👐👑🎸🎶🎵🍸🍸🌴🌵🍀🌻🌻🌻🌈🌞🌊🌎🏆💎💎💎💌🔝🔱💯✅✅✔✔🔥💥💨💦💫🌠🌟🌟🌟✨❇ ESTHER FROM FLORENCE ITALY WITH LOVE 😇💜💝✌✌
How lovely is this? ♥️😊
Saw mclaughlin at front row, ohio.top5 best ever concerts.
Fantastic to watch it live! This piece was written by John and the studio version has one of the most amazing guitar solos ever played - John on the Rex Bogue Double Rainbow. Amazing to watch John playing it again, and playing great! He is the BEST!
Storm in Montreux!!!!!
Fantastic! Unreal! Amazing performance!
Thanks for sharing Craig and Olaf and Montreuxlive and Mad Fabe and Rosa..!.. and 'all'...:)O(:...
from a quiet mind, Coltrane said - and the world is lacking in these
Thanks nice to see this revisited in such a nice way.
Wonderful!
Just astonishing!
Nice!!!!!!!!!
Is this the only time you've heard Carlos play ??? because you've clearly not heard his music over the past 40+ years, and you aren't aware that they are friends and have played with each other.
simply amazing
McLaughlin is speaking with his guitar on this track. Literally I can see words on his solos here.
It is totally not a strange pairing. In that case it would be a classic paring, Carlos and John have been playing together since the early 70s
!!!!!!!!!!!! Волшебство! Словами не описать!!! О, как бы я хотел быть там тогда и обнять их всех!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
reminds me of 70's before all the sample bull. thanks for real music
dude you destroyed with this explanation to the point my man :D couldn't
said it better myself
Thanks 🙏 🌎class two of the best
Both together again................Fucking beauty
I was there it was so amazing I encourage all too attend Montreux the musicians soar their
Santana i grandi indimenticabili musicisti leggendari che non esistono più ora la musica è tutta schifezza loro iconica della musica di successi planetari the best of the besth viva i Santana mitici ❤❤❤❤
the dvd of the whole concert to be released on august 19th! terrific music, devadip & vishnu!
Nice to see John McLaughling on the road!!!
Santana the love of my life. John is the one.
John blows Carlos into the ballpark as usual!
Maestros.
BEAUTIFUL , TRUE AND STRIONG ! LDQ
john et carlos que du bonheur à Montreux
September 1 1973, Auditorium Theatre Chicago. Thanks for the memories..
These guys can not be bitten❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
The Life Divine! From My Personal hero's!
Espectacular
Having looked at all the foregoing sickeningly pretentious comments, I shall simply say....2 of my all time faves.
Música internacional
Música internacional
Big fan of Carlos, his presence just makes a concert so entertaining.
Excellent, Thanks............
I do have this LP.... played only15 times.