Welcome to the first episode in our new series: OGSIXE - The Falcon Experiment. Over the next few weeks Scott is taking his daily driver Ford Falcon G6E and turning it into something that he can still daily drive, but also have a lot of fun in when the time is right. Along the way, he's hoping to teach Richard a thing or two about ECU tuning. In this episode we're doing a base line dyno run with the factory ECU, then we're swapping that out for one of our Haltech Elite Pro Plug-in ECUs to see if we can wake the stock Barra engine up a bit. What sort of power will it make? Watch to find out more!
@@deankdx some stock ecu's in some vehicles can be tuned very limited, and usually in sketchy ways, typically using a chip programmer and overwriting the fuel maps(done wrong can overwrite other data with various interesting side effects) and thats assuming the maker of the ECU hasn't done any horrible crap to stop you reading the firmware, when the ECU maker has stopped you from tampering instead mod companies use a bypass chip, that typically ties into the data lines from the original. these bypass chips are usually tunable in a very rough sense. A Haltech unit on the other hand is built to have everything adjusted and easily read out onto a display, it allows you to easily do, see, and adjust/fine tune so much more, way easyer. think of it like this, you want to hear what a cow sounds like, factory ECU is a babies phone with a cow button on it that says the cow goes "moo", a haltech unit is a 52" 4k UHD TV with built in youtube and voice command control showing you a video of said cows mooing.
This is going to be a great series! I’d love to see what the bolt on stuff does WITHOUT changing the tune. That would tell the average guy what he gets with just adding go-fast bits, and then what he gets if tuned correctly. That would be an eye opener.
There’s a pretty short list of things you could do before needing a tune to actually take advantage of it. An intake and some exhaust would about cover it. Even then you’d likely want a tune to take advantage of it. You could bolt on a bigger turbo and maybe keep it low enough to work with a stock tune. But, then all you’d have is similar power with more turbo lag.
I have watched and enjoyed almost all of your videos so far, but you guys are on to something next level here. Very much enjoyed the beginning of this series.
Very cool concept for a show... a real step by step procedure, maybe with dyno runs in between? And I dig the hosts! Keep up the good work! Greets from Germany.
This looks like its going to be one of your best series of videos. Most of us cannot afford the real race cars and in reality what most of us want is just a good every day pocket rocket that can still get the shopping done. Any excuse to use the car while satisfying all the other requirements of a slightly massaged family sedan. Do I hear Sleeper?
AWD g6e turbo coming your way end of this year. They are such a practical and comfortable car. AWD is the missing link to put the power down and make it handle like it should. Big hp cars like this needs AWD
npx20 the whole point is so it can go around a corner better. 100k sprint less than 3s. Can’t loose it at the skid pan on cheap Chinese 245 tyres. I’d say i am pretty happy with the build. Not sure how you did yours
I'm absolutely loving this series. Watched the latest episode and I've never been able to sit through stuff like talking about AFR's etc etc. But for some reason I could listen to you blokes just talk about cars all day hahahah. Great job Haltech team.
I know that Haltech's specialty is engine management so the series is a sort of 'ad' for their product. But I believe it would be worth noting that the factory ECU's tune-ability is excellent and it has proven to be very capable as it's been used quite successfully in a significant number of high horsepower builds. A good approach would be to out-line the pro's of your ECU, in comparison to Ford's factory ECM. Logging capabilities and external sensor support for example.. Should be an interesting series regardless. Cheers
Fk Yes. You guys have made my day. I own a stock FG G6ET (series 1 ) and was thinking of a Haltech and some basic mods. Yeah baby. Looking forward to future vids and results. Good call on going through the dyno numbers and what you are doing.
convinced i need one and havent seen it yet. Ill be buying a Haltech next paycheck,,, or the one after... but for sure very soon! love these videos you guys are awesome!!!
Epic idea guys! Love this longer format with a bit of dry banter and technical chitchat that doesn't get too hairy. Realistic numbers/expectations, and standard boltons is a lot more attainable to us mere mortals (not that it isn't fascinating to watch Turbo Yoda frankenstein a car out of parts from 7 brands, 29 models, 4 parts catalogues AND his own fab work).
Really looking forward to this series! I'm planning to get my hands on a FG MK2 G6ET in the near future and will be going straight to Haltec for the ECU 👌
Would love to see you guys do an ecu vs ecu tune. Falcons having such a tuneable ecu as it is, it'd be interesting to see what the money would buy you in the haltech system.
I think the Haltech is much more flexible and can control much more than a stock ECU could ever do. Then there is a Haltech tuning software that makes it all come together.
Absolutely love this format you guys are going with. Will definitely be looking forward to seeing the rest of the series and may even head me in the right direction with my XR6T
@@haltech heck yes! You guys are awesome! I've been waffling about using a Haltech ECU on my LS swap, which is nearly complete... Your company is the best in the business, and I want to support you any way I can. Partnering with MCM was genius, and built so much brand loyalty for you guys! I have no idea how I didn't know you had your own channel!
Having been down this road a few times myself, it's great to see you guys doing this. Great cars - I'm looking forward to this series! And hopefully, you can put all those "a Barra can run a 10 for $2K only with a tune" myths to bed. :)
Oooooooooof! See I subbed to this channel early doors, just hoping something like this would materialise. Oh man you haven’t disappointed. Keep it up guys.
Wait a sec, Tuning Fork drove a "stock" car for 3 years! damn, now I want Mc Nuggets. I really enjoy the Haltech videos and am looking forward to this build.
Can't wait too see this series, looks like it will be a lot of fun. Also makes me again wonder if your ECU could get me on the way to turboing my ecolpi? Now that's a real challenge!
that's what a lot of folks don't get. a new ecu, a "chip tune" on a naturally aspirated engine, without any other mods, won't give you anything. also for most turbocharged cars, it's also very limited how much more power a simple ecu change can do, without any additional mods.
oh good haltech your'e make good channel not only sell your ECU but you make some educational stuff like that. May i'm not petrol head but i'm satisfy with your channel :D
Yall got some super nice shops over there, I wouldn't know how to act with a shop that big and nice compared to my concrete pad with a roof over it I do have a cheap lift tho lol. Another thing iv noticed it seems like every turbo car or any fab work I see from Australia is top notch I dont think i have ever seen any bad fab work from Au.
So, what was actually adjusted in the Haltech to produce that 16% increase in peak power? And more importantly what is done to the power curve over the rev range. Is it just lifted 16% over the range or does have peaks or valleys and why? I need minutiae?
Thanks for this series, it looks like something I will enjoy. I am getting in front of myself here and I am not very mechanically knowledgable. But one thing I have never understood is how you can get more power with forged rotating assembly. I know its stronger and what I have been told that means it will resist pre-ignition better. But does that mean you turn your car until it is knocking and just dialed back from that? And if so, why can't you do the same on stock internals and get the same power? Is there something I am missing here? (probably is) Can anyone explain this to me?
can't wait for the rest of the series, so far I already have a NIZPRO intercooler and KPM Intake installed and have a set of ID1000's and a 4" dump and HF cat waiting to go in. just saving for that Haltech ECU ;)
@@haltech cool, i'm pushing 190k, but has been well looked after, and just had a full service and flush for the ZF6. so should be fine with the extra power
Welcome to the first episode in our new series: OGSIXE - The Falcon Experiment.
Over the next few weeks Scott is taking his daily driver Ford Falcon G6E and turning it into something that he can still daily drive, but also have a lot of fun in when the time is right. Along the way, he's hoping to teach Richard a thing or two about ECU tuning.
In this episode we're doing a base line dyno run with the factory ECU, then we're swapping that out for one of our Haltech Elite Pro Plug-in ECUs to see if we can wake the stock Barra engine up a bit. What sort of power will it make? Watch to find out more!
Haltech cool guys, can’t wait to see the progress. This is something I’ve been dreaming of doing to a fgx in the future.
So damn excited for this build
being the stock ecu can be tuned also? when is it time to switch ecu's ?
@@deankdx some stock ecu's in some vehicles can be tuned very limited, and usually in sketchy ways, typically using a chip programmer and overwriting the fuel maps(done wrong can overwrite other data with various interesting side effects) and thats assuming the maker of the ECU hasn't done any horrible crap to stop you reading the firmware, when the ECU maker has stopped you from tampering instead mod companies use a bypass chip, that typically ties into the data lines from the original. these bypass chips are usually tunable in a very rough sense.
A Haltech unit on the other hand is built to have everything adjusted and easily read out onto a display, it allows you to easily do, see, and adjust/fine tune so much more, way easyer.
think of it like this, you want to hear what a cow sounds like, factory ECU is a babies phone with a cow button on it that says the cow goes "moo", a haltech unit is a 52" 4k UHD TV with built in youtube and voice command control showing you a video of said cows mooing.
Richard needs to get back in the DJ Box, AND the gym
Quite a different format of video from Haltech, needless to say it's some great content 👏👏
Glad you like it:)
This is going to be a great series! I’d love to see what the bolt on stuff does WITHOUT changing the tune. That would tell the average guy what he gets with just adding go-fast bits, and then what he gets if tuned correctly. That would be an eye opener.
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It wont go that away, if youre talking engine parts. All parts they install to the car will be tuned in, thats the standard. No untuned mods
There’s a pretty short list of things you could do before needing a tune to actually take advantage of it. An intake and some exhaust would about cover it. Even then you’d likely want a tune to take advantage of it. You could bolt on a bigger turbo and maybe keep it low enough to work with a stock tune. But, then all you’d have is similar power with more turbo lag.
All you could do is a better intake , cat back exhaust untuned
@@hayabusa8184 "cold air intake" you do realize most if not all oem air intakes try to keep thye air as cool as possible right?
start of an epic series Tuning Fork!
Hahaha! The fork lift!! Awesome to see haltech stepping into build series. can't wait for the next episode!
who is forklift dan!!!?
step 1 remove the peninsula holden number plate surround lol
And lose 20HP? Are you mad?
@@haltech by he sounds of things to come youll be right , keep up the great work guys
Fingers crossed!
@@haltech the plate surrounds with a joke are worth more hp
Love these vids, especially when Scott translates technical stuff into plain English, so it makes sense... brilliant.
Got give Ford some credit. The FG is such a beautiful looking vehicle and has aged well!
Best looking barra powered falcon for sure
I have watched and enjoyed almost all of your videos so far, but you guys are on to something next level here. Very much enjoyed the beginning of this series.
Thanks for the kind words! We weren't sure if this type of thing would work for us, but we hope you keep enjoying the rest of the series.
@@haltech You weren't sure? How so? The way Scotty explains things in plain English is awesome.
Subbed for this series!!
So cool to have all the MCM OG's doing some sort of show.
Crossovers are fantastic thanks for this!!
Indeed it is wonder when Marty and Moog will show up. Remember guys they stated it all..
I was subbed with personalized notifications turned on. Now I've got it full on notify me of every new video. ;)
Awesome boys can't wait, good to see the Haltech boys getting into these type of videos....👍
Very cool concept for a show... a real step by step procedure, maybe with dyno runs in between? And I dig the hosts! Keep up the good work!
Greets from Germany.
MORE FORKLIFT DAN PLEASE!!!
The voice over is first rate most spot on .
Love how you went through the Safety aspect of dyno tuning.
So many clips of people and disasters by Dyno tuning
so safety good place to start.
I get that Scott= Tuning Fork. Benny= THE Mechanical Stig.
Is Richard= Honey Badger?
Killed those nuggets like one...
Looks like a bit of bear to me. 😂😅
yes mechanical stig he the man all we need is turbo yoda and this will be one top series great information again guys fascinating
richard is hansome!
The Peng needs to take his food away
Hal yeah boys
This looks like its going to be one of your best series of videos.
Most of us cannot afford the real race cars and in reality what most of us want is just a good every day pocket rocket that can still get the shopping done.
Any excuse to use the car while satisfying all the other requirements of a slightly massaged family sedan.
Do I hear Sleeper?
For years the people have demanded heaps more Tuning Fork. We are finally getting it. 🙌
AWD g6e turbo coming your way end of this year.
They are such a practical and comfortable car. AWD is the missing link to put the power down and make it handle like it should. Big hp cars like this needs AWD
For a daily, RWD is fine. You get worse mileage with AWD.
You must be a complete idiot
npx20 the whole point is so it can go around a corner better. 100k sprint less than 3s. Can’t loose it at the skid pan on cheap Chinese 245 tyres. I’d say i am pretty happy with the build. Not sure how you did yours
Pumped on this. Great work guys 👍🏻
I'm absolutely loving this series. Watched the latest episode and I've never been able to sit through stuff like talking about AFR's etc etc. But for some reason I could listen to you blokes just talk about cars all day hahahah. Great job Haltech team.
I went from an AU2 ute to a FG-X ute recently and even though it's a base model, the 195 Barra in it is pretty powerful. I'm a Barra convert now.
very cool video guys .... tuning fork ..mechanical stig ....and Richard?......he needs a cool nickname 👍🤣
We're open to suggestions!
@@haltech Epic Beard Guy!!!
@@haltech Nugget Muncher. 😎👍
he's friends call him THE MAYOR
Yes they do
wow this is a really nicely edited and well thought out series! keep up the good work Haltech!
Hek yeah, love all these group of lads mechanical stig yoda, and the fork
More please this is great to watch
The dislikes are from people in v8 commodores that got chopped by one of these
Also get chopped by NA barras too 😁
👍😂😂
I know that Haltech's specialty is engine management so the series is a sort of 'ad' for their product. But I believe it would be worth noting that the factory ECU's tune-ability is excellent and it has proven to be very capable as it's been used quite successfully in a significant number of high horsepower builds.
A good approach would be to out-line the pro's of your ECU, in comparison to Ford's factory ECM. Logging capabilities and external sensor support for example..
Should be an interesting series regardless.
Cheers
So good to see tuning fork doing something like this
I've been waiting for you guys to do a series like this! keep them coming!!
A WEEEEK!!!! I can't wait a whole weeek
Word for the day #FACTORY @TuningFork #LOL #greatcontent #keepemcoming #morevideos
I am tossing up between..g6e... Or ssv ... already built a LS1 and 2j 13b... going through a bucket list.. love the Barra
Fk Yes. You guys have made my day.
I own a stock FG G6ET (series 1 ) and was thinking of a Haltech and some basic mods.
Yeah baby. Looking forward to future vids and results. Good call on going through the dyno numbers and what you are doing.
Dont waste your money just use the factory ECU like we have dne for last 16 years with no issues for 99% of people.
convinced i need one and havent seen it yet.
Ill be buying a Haltech next paycheck,,, or the one after... but for sure very soon!
love these videos you guys are awesome!!!
Thanks Guys, I can already tell this series is going to be Awesome. 👍
Epic idea guys! Love this longer format with a bit of dry banter and technical chitchat that doesn't get too hairy. Realistic numbers/expectations, and standard boltons is a lot more attainable to us mere mortals (not that it isn't fascinating to watch Turbo Yoda frankenstein a car out of parts from 7 brands, 29 models, 4 parts catalogues AND his own fab work).
Just as I'm starting a barra conversion, perfect timing 👌
Will be putting in my order for the elite 2500 shortly.
Liking this series a lot - always thought someone who runs through the dyno stuff for the novices out there would do well. Subscribed guys, cheers.
"Fast? Ehh..."
Scotty Brain: *It ain't 400kW at the wheels...*
Awsome vid guys, cant wait for the next episodes.
Nice vid boys :),will be watching this one.
My new favourite show on UA-cam
Im going to enjoy this series!
Really looking forward to this series! I'm planning to get my hands on a FG MK2 G6ET in the near future and will be going straight to Haltec for the ECU 👌
Cant wait. thanks guys
Would love to see you guys do an ecu vs ecu tune. Falcons having such a tuneable ecu as it is, it'd be interesting to see what the money would buy you in the haltech system.
I think the Haltech is much more flexible and can control much more than a stock ECU could ever do. Then there is a Haltech tuning software that makes it all come together.
Absolutely love this format you guys are going with. Will definitely be looking forward to seeing the rest of the series and may even head me in the right direction with my XR6T
Woohoo!!!!!! More koolshit to watch can't wait see you all next week!!☺☺☺
Hey Tuning fork, we are from MCM
Holy crap, since when is Haltech an awesome content creator!?!? More!!!!
Since around 2010:) More coming!
@@haltech heck yes! You guys are awesome! I've been waffling about using a Haltech ECU on my LS swap, which is nearly complete... Your company is the best in the business, and I want to support you any way I can. Partnering with MCM was genius, and built so much brand loyalty for you guys! I have no idea how I didn't know you had your own channel!
I really like how all you guys work together to create great videos. Scott good luck with your channel, I'll be watching for sure.
Intro was f*cking on point! Lol good job boys
Having been down this road a few times myself, it's great to see you guys doing this. Great cars - I'm looking forward to this series! And hopefully, you can put all those "a Barra can run a 10 for $2K only with a tune" myths to bed. :)
@@npx20 yes, but that's irrelevant to my comment.
Keen as a bean for next episode 😍
This was awesome I can't wait for episode 2
Well done boys!
Cheers!!
20min video from haltech, you guys feeling Okay, love it
Looking forward to this series fellas!
Can’t wait for this series, actually looking at getting one soon 👌
Very interesting, just purchased a 2013 fg xr6 turbo and looking forward to next segment 👍
Looking forward to this series!
Oooooooooof! See I subbed to this channel early doors, just hoping something like this would materialise. Oh man you haven’t disappointed. Keep it up guys.
Mighty Ford Mods !
Wait a sec, Tuning Fork drove a "stock" car for 3 years! damn, now I want Mc Nuggets. I really enjoy the Haltech videos and am looking forward to this build.
I like it 👍
Nice job boys. Keep it up.
Very informative, thanks guys!
Real live tuning, yay, can't wait to look at the software.
Exciting stuff!
Thank You.
Can't wait too see this series, looks like it will be a lot of fun. Also makes me again wonder if your ECU could get me on the way to turboing my ecolpi? Now that's a real challenge!
So keen for the next episode. Good stuff.
Love the G6ET
Awesome👏🏻👏🏻
Good stuff. Nice work!
Good shit boys!
Great job, Keen to see where this leads.
Thank you for the awesome video!
Very cool video
that's what a lot of folks don't get. a new ecu, a "chip tune" on a naturally aspirated engine, without any other mods, won't give you anything. also for most turbocharged cars, it's also very limited how much more power a simple ecu change can do, without any additional mods.
oh good haltech your'e make good channel not only sell your ECU but you make some educational stuff like that. May i'm not petrol head but i'm satisfy with your channel :D
i wish Ford had brought the Falcon to the UK. Barra turbo and manual transmission, whats not to like!
Hell yeah! Can’t wait to see this....great job fellas
Yall got some super nice shops over there, I wouldn't know how to act with a shop that big and nice compared to my concrete pad with a roof over it I do have a cheap lift tho lol. Another thing iv noticed it seems like every turbo car or any fab work I see from Australia is top notch I dont think i have ever seen any bad fab work from Au.
awesome content :) love it guys
So, what was actually adjusted in the Haltech to produce that 16% increase in peak power?
And more importantly what is done to the power curve over the rev range. Is it just lifted 16% over the range or does have peaks or valleys and why?
I need minutiae?
nice one. I've been looking forward to something like this
This is gonna be good!
Awesome guys, saving my pennies for one of theses ecu’s
Thanks for this series, it looks like something I will enjoy.
I am getting in front of myself here and I am not very mechanically knowledgable.
But one thing I have never understood is how you can get more power with forged rotating assembly.
I know its stronger and what I have been told that means it will resist pre-ignition better.
But does that mean you turn your car until it is knocking and just dialed back from that?
And if so, why can't you do the same on stock internals and get the same power?
Is there something I am missing here? (probably is)
Can anyone explain this to me?
This is excellent. I still won’t mod my f6e
What a beautiful journey through Wetherill park and Abbotsbury, just like every drive to and from work :| lol
We'll try to go somewhere more picturesque later 😂
More project car videos from cool people! Me likey!
Super happy camper right here. Well done any chance of some quarter testing for each stage.
Great video, I definitely need to find one 😅
This is perfect for me and my MK1 G6E Turbo.....yeww. Scotty what K's is on the car and motor?
can't wait for the rest of the series, so far I already have a NIZPRO intercooler and KPM Intake installed and have a set of ID1000's and a 4" dump and HF cat waiting to go in. just saving for that Haltech ECU ;)
120,000km give or take :)
@@haltech cool, i'm pushing 190k, but has been well looked after, and just had a full service and flush for the ZF6. so should be fine with the extra power