If you liked the KTM 390 and Svartpilen 401, check out the newer KTM 390 adventure. Same Power plant. It will make a better “adventure” bike than the Svartpilen. It offers more wind protection than either and I believe has optional Luggage/panniers for someone who wants to do some light traveling or exploring. It does cost just a bit more but worth it IMO.
Its funny because people on youtube worry so much about what bike to buy or what bike to start on lol. Only to realize 1 week into riding that it doesn't matter what so ever. Riding is all that matters. Ride whatever bike works lol. A good bike, is a reliable one.
What yamaha gets but yall youtubers dont, us ppl looking at this bike just want a small, fuel efficient commuter. Most of us have zero desire to go fast, do wheelies and "have more fun". Like bro, my V8 toyota murders my bank account every friday when i fill up, this thing would save me literally the equivalent of a car payment each month.
One think reviewers never mention... Mt03 has 14L tank, Duke 390 has 12L and the Husqy 401 has 9L tank... Trust me, this is a huuuuuuuuuge quality of life feature, very very huge
I chose the MT-03 over the KTM because of reliability issues and distance from dealership and lower seat. I chose the MT-03 over the Z400 because of the looks and lower seat. I have no intention of ever doing a wheelie and it's comfortable. I'm 5'-6" and I can't flat foot it, so the other options would be worse. I get compliments on the looks of this bike every time I ride.
@@MrMoa-lv4lm Can't remember specifically, but some reviews mentioned some common issues with it. May not have stopped me from getting one, but the nearest dealer is 2.5 hours from me.
I agree. I have an mt-03 (still have my learner's) love the look especially compared to the looks of the other entry level bikes. I do find the throttle is a little tiring, but the max speed limit here is 90 km/hr.
You can definitely wheelie in 2nd gear it if you want. Just do a little power at a time until you learn what picks that front wheel up. It feels pretty stable too.
I own an mt03 and it's my third motorcycle. I've owned an R6 and a GSXR-750. I'm no longer into racing so I wanted something to cruise around town with a sporty light feeling. Let me say that customizing a motorcycle is part of the fun of owning a motorcycle. I have upgraded the levers as I love the feeling of solid adjustable levers. I switched out the throttle tube bc it did feel too long and I changed the exhaust. The mt03 is not a race bike but it revs nicely and I love it. There is no need to change the sprocket when you can just ride the motorcycle in the proper revs or use a little clutch to bring it up to speed. I love this bike. The price is right. The engine screams and it does what's its supposed to do. I can easily ride it on the highway and get up to 90mph or even 100 mph without a problem. If you like this bike then buy it.
Wait. You are 6 feet , and you find this bike REALLY comfortable? Everyone that has ridden it from my friends that are 6 feet and plus said this bike is really cramped for them. I wont even talk about me , 6'3 is just impossible i cant even change gears. So , one of us is lying lmao.
Im 6f like you and im thiking to buy one. How is the ridin? Because i sat on it on a dealer and my knees was barely under the gas tank but while changing gear or while braking my knees touch it a little bit.
Honestly, these vids have been a joke. They love the MT one week, then they shit on the MT another week. Then they talk how good it is again... I own one (zx6r prior) and you don't need to do sprocket etc to make it fun... you guys are missing the point with the small cc bikes.
I got the MT03 as my first bike.Even though the Z400 has more power, I found this one to be much more comfortable and easier to handle for me. I’m a 5’5 girl who doesn’t weigh that much so that might be why. The Duke was my next choice but the prince and looks was too good to choose otherwise I thought. I’m very happy and have had my black Mt03 for 3 months now. :)
I haven't been able to find a Z400 to sit on yet, but am also a very small person, so wondered how the two compared in that regard, other than the obvious difference in seat height? The 390 Duke was the most uncomfortable bike I have ever sat on, and to me, looks like they took a mini bike and made the ergonomics fit a giant. lol
I’m about to buy an MT03 in a few days here. I feel super confident in my purchase after research but I’d love to know what your opinion on the bike is now that it’s been a few months
@@braedenchapman7227 sorry I just saw this. Did you end up getting the bike? I loved it honestly, couldn’t ask for a better priced bike with its comfort and handling. Super beginner friendly. If you are a big guy and over 6ft though it may feel a bit cramped depending on how long your legs are
I have a FZ-10 and 2 MT-03s and ride them with my kids. The 03s are a blast to drive. The people that think you have to have the max about of HP have maturity issues.
I bought one as a beginner bike because it's affordable and reliable. For me it doesn't need geared down, loud pipe, switchable abs, none of that. I ride rural back roads with gear. Not everyone wants to play nooners and tail slides primarily.
I agree. I have the 2020 MT03 and it's perfect for me as a beginner. I just don't get why anyone would spend more than $750 on mods with the intent to go faster. You might as well just get an MT07.
Looking to do the same riding. Back roads and forestry service roads with my son who is too young for road license. Did you make any mods for this type of riding? They need to make an adventure ADV trim for this MT-03
New buyers be aware. Your MSRP is just the base price. Add "transport" and "dealer prep", your pre tax adds $1,500 + whatever your state's sales tax. A $4,500 bike can cost up to $6,500 OTD.
I've rode my m-t03 for about 2500km over the last 3-4 months. As a guy at 5ft 6 it's really assuring to know that you can nearly put both feet down on the ground. The ergos are really comfy with a much more comfortable seat than the Duke. As a new rider I found it really fun to crank the throttle so far to get the speed up. 0-60 is where this bike is most enjoyable. I'd say if your a short person wanting to get in to riding bikes and go practice every day for an hour or more to get your skills up, this is a good platform to start on. Additionally your glutes will thankyou because of a much more comfy seat after spending over an hour enjoying a ride.
The Honda Grom has a lower seat height. I trained on one at an MSF training course. I used two different Groms and both allowed me to easily place both feet flat on the pavement. I own a MT-03 and I cannot place both my feet flat on the pavement. I have incurable stage 4 cancer in my spine. I had to take two MSF courses to pass and get my endorsement. I also have partial paralysis in both legs. Learning to ride was my dream and the number 1 item on my bucket list. I was ecstatic to pass the MSF course and get my license and a new Yamaha MT-03!!! I am 4 years past diagnosis and 3 years past prognosis. The MT-03 is absolutely perfect for me with no changes. I am 63vyears old. Praise God!!! Its not about me. It's about inspiring the handicapped and terminal patients.
I am 33, riding bikes since I was 4 (started with a PW50). Got a brand new black matte 2022 MT03 a month ago and it is stock, I can’t complain about anything on it. Perfect for work and nothing wrong with it on highways at 70mph. I will only add a full Akrapovic carbon exhaust and CRG rc2 levers next week. That is it and I still love it stock so I am just throwing money on it cause I want.
Yammie, when complaining about low seat height, please remember that you are taller than the average US male ( 5' 9" or 1.75m). American women are, on average, 5.4 inches shorter (1.62m). It is also especially important for new riders to be able to place both feet firmly on the ground, since continually dropping a motorcycle while trying to learn is a major reason newcomers give up. Me, I am short and have a 28" (71cm) inseam and have a hard time finding naked or "standards" that have a sufficiently low seat. I am old and don't like to use the "one cheek" method of reaching the ground. I DO think that more motorcycles, especially ones for beginners, should have adjustable-height seats, or at least several seats of different heights readily available for purchase.
Absolutely! I'm also old with a 28" inseam, and have ridden for most of my life, from dirt bikes, to sport bikes, to cruisers. One of the most important things about a bike is its comfort and ergonomics. It gets tiring hearing a 6' and 6'3" guy advising everyone that motorcycle nirvana is all about adrenaline.
I was less than thrilled about goin out to try a used MT and immediately finding it fR too tight, too compact in th tank/saddle area.... Almost as if Yamaha threw us taller riders to th wind. Everything else about it, i loved.... But instead i went home despondent and feeling penalized for being taller, at 6ft even. Now i hav to look at bikes outside my price range jus to find a decent fit. No, yammie is not being one bit too hard on em.
@@rimrunz1795 tbh nearly every bike fit a 6 foot tall guy perfectly. on the other hand there arent many bikes which fit shorter people below 6 foot. depending on their inseam length. so you shouldnt really have something to complain about. the honda cb300r should still be within your price range for example and it has a bigger seat height. if yamaha will launch the xsr300 this would be an option.
MT-03 rider here. I agree with Yammie’s points. I chose this bike because I’m 5”5’ and this one is the best for my seat height and ergos. I’m under no illusion that this is the best. BUT... I’m not selling this thing to buy the competitor’s product because the difference is marginal. I’ll just gonna wait and get a much powerful bike when I’m good and ready and can afford it.
I bought one of these in May and I looove it. The looks pulled me in initially, I reckon its the best looking MT. It could definitely do with a bigger motor but this package is real nimble and zippy enough to have fun on. I'm 6'2" and never found an issue with ergonomics, but having said that I only have experience with small bikes (MC22 CBR, ZXR250A and a '94 Bandit 250) so it could be that I just don't know better. I hated the Duke 390 I borrowed while the MT got serviced. Weird foot position, lumpy motor, twitchy throttle, floppy/mushy controls. Did feel a touch quicker though.
I chose the MT03 over the Duke because of seat height , and reliability and I absolutely love it.Great beginner bike. I don,t think it needs more power , it can easily pass anything on the highway but is more suited to urban and sealed country roads , due to weight , feels a bit too light at high speeds. I am a 70 year old returning rider and 5'5 , this bike can scare me if I 'fang' it. It sounds great with the Akrapovic exhaust put on by the previous owner. I have just put bar-end mirrors on and will probably do more upgrades if I keep it. I have realized I would like a bike that can handle dirt and gravel roads . The Svartpilen looks good but seat height might be an issue , as with most adventure bikes. Love your enthusiasm Yammie Noob !
The smaller the CC, the better for a beginner tbh. I miss small displacement power. Makes me feel like a mighty warrior weaving through traffic at full throttle.
I'm 6'2" with a 33-34" inseam and started riding this year on a 250 dual sport. High seat like a 450 dirt bike, plenty of space. I have since moved on to an mt-07 which has a slightly taller seat than the 03.
I get to fire through all 6 gears at wide open throttle and really ring it out, as opposed to a higher power bikes that can only truly “live” on freeways. “Slow” bike fast. The thrill of the ride can be had on a DAILY basis while mastering fundamentals. Low operation and maintenance costs. Unique sporty looks. The lower costs results in affording higher quality gear which is safer and looks bad ass. The reasons I chose the MT-03. Zero regrets.
If someone picked this up as the first motorcycle they've ever ridden, they would have no idea what a good bike or a bad one felt like. I liken it to the way people complain about MT clutch levers and how they engage so far out. I'm so accustomed to it I wouldn't want it any other way. People talk about they MT-07 and up have snatchy throttles and my FZ-07 feel just fine because I know how to use it. I'd say if it feels anything like my FZ-07 feels, Any new rider would be very pleased with how it feels to control and how sturdy it feels. After a few months a person could upgraded the throttle tube, then when they feel their pace picking up, get the brakes sorted. By no means should anyone buy a brand new bike and feel like they need to upgrade literally everything.
yeah i can agree. even i just own a 125cc Honda scooter, it's been 7 years daily driving that shit and it's still working properly with no issues. well there were some issues but it's so easy to fix and it doesn't cost that much to do something to it xd
A argument can be made for and against every single bike in that class. At the end of the day its about what works for you. I fit on it..and its indestructible. Sold.
After all the reveiws i have seen, i beleive that is the Best choice for the beginers because once you domain the basics, you'll learn on how to make the upgrades that you have done with the Yamaha You have 10 times more choices than the husk... or the ktm, maibe the Kawasaki Will have more options on the after market parts. But any way great video keep up the good work.
the mt03 is the best lower cc naked in its class. by far. my brother has a z400, he says the transmission and clutch is better on the mt03 than the z400. ktm has some reliability issues and the rest of them are kind of meh in price. so mt03 is the best in terms of price and and in terms of reliability. ergonomics are on point as well I'm 6'3 and feel amazing on it so
I just started watching the video but let me just start sating by "f* Yamaha for not updating MT07" No, Yamaha, I don't want to cheap out on suspension & brakes... FFS. Launch an SP model or something.
@@theunitedempire6532 I've got to agree, the prices for the Dukes might be intimidating for some but it's DEFINETLY worth it with all the cool shit you get with it
@@stubbisNO definatly agree..i own a SDR1290. and for the money, i only feel like the only thing you may want is an exhaust. The other stuff you do to it is for fun or asthetics. My buddy has a MT10 and has over 20k into it,(including the price of the bike) and he still like the SDR more
@@rubberskilla2991 I've only got a Duke 125 but it's way ahead of it's competition. I've also tried the 790 and it's a beast, and I can't imagine how the 1290 is compared to that
@@stubbisNO yup, I will probably go with the 890 r. I like the fact that they have a heavier crank now because now it won't have those annoying 2nd order vibrations. Should test-ride it... as soon as this corona crap is over 😒 Melbourne has seen better days. Would've considered cb650r as well if it didn't have an inline 4. I like simplicity & there's nothing simple about that engine.
I agree with most of this video, I test rode 2 bikes before getting my first bike, the mt03 and the z400 and I bought the z400 because it was so much more fun. It was not just the power, it had a more sporty handling that made it feel better to lean into the corners.
This might be a hot take but I feel like the look of the bike is one of the more important things to me. For example, I LOVE the specs and features of the Duke 390, but personally I can not stand the look of it. In the end I went with a CB300R.
I'm just a little older and did similar three years ago. It suits me 100% and I'm never left being when I go out with my friends on larger capacity bikes. I downsized from a large Bonneville and the combined weight of myself and the mt 03 is about the same as the Bonneville alone, no wonder it performs well ! I hope you're enjoying your new bike, best wishes.
I have a CB650F. I still got my 1978 cb125T, overbored to the last millimeter of the sleeve for around 150cc of displacement. It barely brakes compared to modern bike but if I have to take a trip of less than two hours, I'll take my small CB twin. It can cruise at 80 mph (at 12.000 rpm, mind you...), will take insane abuse (14.000 rpm through each gear) and still gets me smiling. It's 115 kgs wet, around 20bhp, screams like nothing else while being zippy (but not really fast...). I'll never sell it. Small bikes make you feel young.
I was in the market for a Husky Svart 401 but it is basically a unicorn of a motorcycle and after checking out half a dozen dealers in my state i gave up. Even if i was gonna get my hands on one i was told it would have been marked up like crazy with OTD price approaching 9 grand. Ended up getting a used 2021 MT-03 with 425 miles on it, so not even broken in for $4K. I am 6ft 3 and yes the tank is in the way of my knees but i got so used to it, i actually prefer now sitting "in" the bike and how i can really hug it with my knees and having more leverage that way. I think MT is a fantastic bike to learn on and i really enjoy it and have zero regrets. I know i will eventually "outgrow" it and probably end up on a larger ADV bike next year or so but the little MT is soooo much fun to toss around and especially on twisty roads. I guess the point i'm trying to make is if you're a taller rider, don't let this video to deter you from pulling the trigger on the MT. Especially with Husqvarna's latest reliability record, since new Svarts are now built in India.
One thing I have noticed with what people buy as beginner bikes is what is accessable to people. Where I live in Wisconsin unless you want to drive at least 3 hours away your only options are a Honda dealer that stocks almost no motorcycles or a Harley dealer that stocks almost nothing but $40000 baggers.
Respect the Honesty. I also want competition to regulate better, more innovative bikes, but I bought a MT03 in July. I'm 5'8" After 1,500 miles on the street I'm not disappointed. It's a fun bike with the assumption that rider skills dictate handling of the bike. I'm not expecting any bike to dictate the ceiling of enjoyment. The bike handles; it's light, and easy to lean on the street. The features of the bike should still allow 6' + riders to gain loads of confidence and skills to upgrade without underutilizing say a xsr 700. Your alternatives are very scarce in this market. The Z400 felt physically more confining with poor vision from the mirrors. I wouldn't want anyone to settle, but it has enough bones to develop the right way. I wouldn't discourage the purchase or wait for something that's unavailable. These bikes in my area since July are scarce, and I'm in SE Coastal Ga. Just be thankful you are one of the few who loves to ride, has that CM license, passed an MSF and has the freedom to gear up and ride everyday....I love it.
Mine kicks ass. I love it. Who gives a shit but I'm 5'9 ish with short ass 32" inseam and were all different. Yeah it need the throttle tube mod, I like that it has me adding small parts and wrenching and adding things. Power is cool as shit, whollies in two and fine for passing in traffic. Best bike ever. Yeah it's my first street bike.
Plot twist: everybody loves MT-03, Yammie Noob just grabbing attention scolding it. Srsly if you aren't fond of KTM's orange "designers diarrhea" (c) F9 and unreliability and aren't going to search for Husqvarna which nonexistant (at least in my country, guess things in USA aren't as easy as Yammie says), you are stuck between MT-03, Z400 and CB300R. First two are very similar while CB300R is smaller, lighter, 1-cylinder bike. So if you aren't KTM guy there is no reason not too choose an MT-03. PS Husqvarna design is rather dubious too.
I really hate the MT-03. I also do not like KTM brand. I had a Duke 690 for a month and couldn't find anything I liked about it. There are more than just two choices out there...just saying.
Say what? The Vitpilen 701 looks amazing. I'm usually not a fan of clip-on bars, but I'm seriously considering getting a Vitpilen just for riding shorter trips.
fully agreed with Yammie after riding the MT-03 for the past 2 years. unfortunately in my country, Kawasaki is really not well-represented and therefore have parts problem and its cost itself is almost $2000 USD more than MT-03. Honestly, MT-03 is a nice bike to learn, but anymore than that might be pushing a bit especially in big country like US.
I’m actually waiting to take delivery of my MT-03 this weekend. I kept going back and forth with it and the Z400 but the seating position on the z400 just didn’t work for me. Felt like it kept pushing me into the tank. The MT-03 felt perfect ergonomically for me. I haven’t ridden in 17 years so the less torque down low and little longer throttle tube I think is ok. When I want a shorter throttle, I’ll do the mod. I also personally like the gray/cyan color they’ve had for ‘23 and ‘24 more than the current Kawasaki colors.
I feel like this is a video about a beginner bike, that has the expectations of a non beginner. I want it to do this and that and this. And that's because you're not a beginner. And Yamaha isn't pitching this bike to you. Like you said it's a hook. Is it a fun hook? Is it a cheap hook? Is it a reliable hook? Will I want to move into a better bike after I'm not a beginner? Yes to all of that. So I don't see the problem.
Get an R3, Tune It, Exhaust , R6 Throttle Tube. 👌🏼 Svartpilen 401, would be nice with very little modification. I think a used MT-07 or KTM 390 Duke would be a good option too.
Mt03 is great because it's available global. You go to europe there are mt03s you go to India there are mt03s you go to Indonesia there are mt03s so no problem doing world touring with this bike if you plan to.
I loved my '21 MT03. The only reason I traded it in was to get the MT07 and a little more power. Other than you can out grow it pretty fast, I have no complaints against it. Plus ...TST Industries offers alot of upgrades for it. Also add the R6 throttle tube to really make it open up.
I feel like you guys missed something about the MT-03 : it's past. The 2014+ lack the pure Power and torque the older model offer. For anyone who doesn't know, until 2014, the MT-03 was a 660cc single cylinder engine, 56 N*m of torque. The newer models stand at 321cc twin engine, same engine as the R3 and as a rider and mechanic, 300cc twin engines are basically sloths below ~7000 rpm, especially at low speeds. If you want a fun bike, that is also great at long trips you should defenetly go for the 2006-2014 models. Single cylinder and high cc are always a fun combination, numbers prove it
Internet power warriors are disconnected from reality. MT-03 has 42hp and 168kg. With 70kg rider it has power to weight ratio of 176.4hp/tonne. Roughly in the ballpark of stock Impresa WRX STI. And STI is not a beginners car.
I enjoy his content. But my first bike is gonna be a supermoto. I live in a semi rural town. I might be 5’7” but I don’t mind shifting to the side and giving the tiptoe method. I love the durability and versatility of a supermoto. P.S. where’s my sumo lovers?
Dude. I just came from an MT-03 video where a 6'2" dude was talking about how it wasn't too small and it felt right to him. Dude here is saying it's so small it'd be good for 5'3" guys. Wtf lol
Take $1,200 to 2,000. Buy a 2000's era Suzuki GS500 pref the F model. And turn it into any of the bikes he mentioned. Yes it has carbs. Make sure you buy one w freshly tuned carbs and your good. It has batter ergos than than my faster SV. But it's a lego bike that can be turned into anything. Watch videos on what people have done with these. I have a 68 shovelhead that I hate but it's sentimental, an SV 650 and it's to crampy for me. A nighthawk 250 because it's hilarious. But I ride the GS500f that I turned into a Svartpillen everyday. Love this channel.
I’m a third world rider. Traffic is nuts and an mt03 here is more than enough for the daily commute as most bikes here are between the 100cc - 250cc mark pushing anywhere between 7hp to 20hp to the wheel. Thing in this video is that it seems like yammie is judging the bike based on low end torque, by granny shifting and not really getting the rpms up there as they should be. For the r3/03 engine platform that’s just not where the power’s at.. In relation to the “needs to change the sprocket” ordeal, I humbly disagree. It’s got it’s power band in between 8500k to 13k so if you’re expecting to feel it’s power in the lower rpms, you WILL NOT feel it there. Mine stops the speedometer from reading at 199kmph(I Reside in Brazil) while it’s still at 11,500rpm, which means in reality it prolly tops out around 205/210kmph(125mph) -as I’ve recorded on my speedometer app couple times before- considering it actually only redlines at 13k. No tune, fully stock pipe, no air filter, chain lubbed up and tires set at 42psi on regular gas. I’m 5’10 and weigh around 160lbs.
It's a cheap well made entry level bike if your complaining about power why get a 300 in the first place. It performs well at what it is made for. If you like the look but want more power just get the 700.
I picked a Kawasaki z400 just cuz it’s a Kawasaki and it’s been my dream to own a Kawasaki since I was a child. I researched it, read it was reliable and overall a good bike so I got it, I don’t really care if it’s the best or not, that’s just what I wanted
Stale comment… but I have a 2021. I’m 5’8 and I can barely flat foot the bike with both feet. I have a shorter torso so I guess that’s expected. However it’s a great starter bike or upgrade from a grom or z125. Very easy to ride and a great entry bike. This or an R3. Recommend for sure.
Guys... skip these entry level bikes and go straight to intermediate. Something like a Ninja 650 or SV650. Being underpowered can be even more dangerous than a little extra power.
The z400 is the best beginner naked bike but No bike is a bad choice. The mt03 is one of the torquiest beginner motorcycles out there and goes 100 stock if you can handle the wind which is very fast for a 325cc naked bike
Getting mod for your bike is fun. To me it's definitely one of the best start bike out there. If I could get one I would definitely be happy with it. Also I prefer naked over sport bike so I'm biased
I picked up one of these for my first bike. Another I considered was the Z-400, and honestly it "felt" smaller (I felt more cramped on it than on the MT-03; I'm 5'8 145#); I rode one at a Kawasaki event and to me the MT-03 rode just a hair better (Z-400 won out in some respects, MT-03 in others). Since then I've put nearly 3500 miles on it, and it's done me well. Yeah I'm not super confident riding it on gravel, but I've been down a few gravel roads at ~35mph and made it out the other end unscathed. For the kind of riding I want to do, it's great - and I get a ton of compliments about its looks from other riders. Yeah, the Svartpilen 401 may be a better starter bike for someone who wants to take it off-road a lot, but for someone just doing street riding, knobby tires, adjustable suspension, on/off rear ABS are not as important - and that $400 difference in MSRP could be the difference between getting it getting it for under $5k or not (or in my case, $5.5k because VA taxes vehicles at point of sale AND annually)
In my humble opinion , really expensive for what they offer , might as well go for cb500f. Price difference in my country isnt that big. Also , if you are tall , the bike is extremely small.
I think they need to put this drivetrain into an updated XT250 dual sport chassis.. Looking for a D-Sport, but Air Cooled 9:1 is barely modern? The KLX300 is the one to beat, and Kaw is charging $6100 plus big dealer markup for theirs. Just not worth it for a thumper single.. The real KLR650 full adventure boat is just a tad more which is silly. Yamaha.. do some of your small twin water cooled magic on the XT250.. keep it $5500 in 2024 dollars and you'll own the dual sport market.
Yamaha is not even ready to sell MT-03 in India MT-15 is the only naked offering from yamaha tbh they are just being lazy I'd rather buy d390 or Svartpilen 401 when it release in late 2020
@@michaelcallisto and the only other "motorcycles" they sell here are the overpriced r15, the mt09 (not sp) and the r1. No 700s. No fjr. No xsr. No tracer. No r6. No 600s. And they wonder why ktm gets all the sales here.
The 2020 MT-03 seat height is about 30.7 inches. My 2008 Honda Nighthawk CB250 seat height is about 29.3 inches. Neither of these bikes are Groms? It is easier to add some height to the seat than to lower a tall bike. Ride what fits you. Ride what you can control. There is no hurry to kill yourself by being over-biked and riding a 650cc, or 1000cc bike. This channel speaks with a forked tongue. Promises made in the evening are broken in the morning kinda stuff.
I can say that Yamaha's lower displacements bikes are slower than it's competitor for example this MT03 is so slow that my Yamaha UB150 with a 59mm block and 19/22 valves can keep up with the MT Plus with a much fuel effecient having 40kmp/l.
I think the point of needed to do the upgrades is to also teach yourself how to work on the bike and I feel it make the bike more personal to the rider but then again I am a Nutt case lol
5,499 is the price for a kawasaki versys x 300 and it is said to be very smooth. I'm sure there are a lot of 1 thumpers in the beginner bike catagory and older new riders or really anyone not thinking Iron me like a crisp white shirt might put vibration experience very high in how they are going to feel about biking in the long run.
I hate the ergos of the Duke. It's too sporty when I prefer something upright. It's hard in the small girl, small displacement area to find something that isn't a 250cc cruiser or a Ninja. When we think about the question, why don't women ride - the answer really is that it's hard to find an option that fits us. Can we tiptoe at stoplights on a high seat with a twitchy throttle we can barely reach? Sure, but we don't want to.
This is my biggest gripe with the MT-03: If you are 6 foot or taller with proportionally-sized legs this bike is not for you. Sit on it and you will immediately hate it. Your knees will sit too high against the tank and those aggressive side angles will push down on your knees in an extremely uncomfortable and cramped way. This is a bike for smaller people only with zero effort to accommodate slightly taller than average riders.
Wow, a 321cc isn’t as fast or as powerful as a 390 or 399cv motorcycle, who knew! Is it faster than a BMW with 312cc’s? Come on man, simple math in the performance dpt
Yammie, I can think of a reason to get the MT-03. Maybe for someone who lives in a city with no off-road places around (likeNYC). But then maybe start on a Ninja 400?
If they wanted to present valid reviews on these smaller entry level bikes, instead of a partner who is 6' 3" and 230lbs, he should have a woman who is 5' tall and closer to 100lbs testing them too. A lot of women have told me that what turned them off to motorcycling wasn't just the seat height, but mostly the weight. Motorcycling isn't just about riding, it's also about parking, turning something around in a small space that doesn't have a reverse gear, moving in and out of a garage, and etc. Give me an MT-03 that weighs closer to the 300lb mark, and I'm all in!
Planning on picking up a new mt03 before the weather warms up enough to ride. Yamaha already made a fanboy out of me with the yz125 and yz250. I just want a reliable, cheap to own, street focused commuter bike and I do like the look and ergonomics of the mt03. If I want to race it’ll be off-road and on a dirt bike. I watched my brother dig himself in a huge legal hole riding his Kawasaki ninja too fast on the street. He has to ride a Yamaha zuma scooter now because he hasn’t been able to get his license back. So I don’t care that the 03 is slower than most of it’s competition. I’m not really looking for performance. Because of the roads in my area I highly doubt I’ll ever take it on the interstate where the speed limit is 70-80mph. Those roads for me are so out of the way I really only use them if I’m going out of state. So we’re talking 55mph roads tops for me and I want to shift the bike more. Just as with manual cars I feel it helps keep me engaged and focused. I don’t want a bigger bike that I only use half the gears in.
You should say you're making constructive criticisms, big difference from "clowning" on a bike. You could very well get on any bike anywhere and pick a handful of things that could be better.
As a brand new rider, I love my mt-03, however, I can see how from a more experienced riders perspective, it would seem very tame. I looked at other bikes in the class, I chose this for because it fit my needs, everyone’s needs vary.
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Are you going to tune the MT-03????
One thing I must have is a short throttle,cant ride well otherwise!
What about the svartpilen 701?
If you liked the KTM 390 and Svartpilen 401, check out the newer KTM 390 adventure. Same Power plant.
It will make a better “adventure” bike than the Svartpilen.
It offers more wind protection than either and I believe has optional Luggage/panniers for someone who wants to do some light traveling or exploring.
It does cost just a bit more but worth it IMO.
Have you ever looked into the cfmoto 650nk as a beginner bike?
Its funny because people on youtube worry so much about what bike to buy or what bike to start on lol. Only to realize 1 week into riding that it doesn't matter what so ever. Riding is all that matters. Ride whatever bike works lol. A good bike, is a reliable one.
You dropped this 👑
You’re 100% right!!!
Isn’t it freaking hilarious? “Hey, you, please tell me what bike I should be riding.” “Ride whatever bike works,”. Sage advice! 👍🏻
@@JBMotorrad with a smidgen of common sense of course
@@Bahle_Gaji That is the “works” part. But, yes, of course.
100. There might be some preference of people but in the end, you will just love whatever the bike you ride on.
What yamaha gets but yall youtubers dont, us ppl looking at this bike just want a small, fuel efficient commuter. Most of us have zero desire to go fast, do wheelies and "have more fun". Like bro, my V8 toyota murders my bank account every friday when i fill up, this thing would save me literally the equivalent of a car payment each month.
Exactly. If you want a shorter throttle pull just get the MT07 or 10 😂.
@@joshuasmith9410 people have just been swapping a r6 tube on for shorter pull
One think reviewers never mention... Mt03 has 14L tank, Duke 390 has 12L and the Husqy 401 has 9L tank... Trust me, this is a huuuuuuuuuge quality of life feature, very very huge
Cb300 10l mt03 best size tank
I chose the MT-03 over the KTM because of reliability issues and distance from dealership and lower seat. I chose the MT-03 over the Z400 because of the looks and lower seat. I have no intention of ever doing a wheelie and it's comfortable. I'm 5'-6" and I can't flat foot it, so the other options would be worse.
I get compliments on the looks of this bike every time I ride.
How unreliable is ktm?
@@MrMoa-lv4lm Can't remember specifically, but some reviews mentioned some common issues with it. May not have stopped me from getting one, but the nearest dealer is 2.5 hours from me.
I agree. I have an mt-03 (still have my learner's) love the look especially compared to the looks of the other entry level bikes. I do find the throttle is a little tiring, but the max speed limit here is 90 km/hr.
Jenn Jenn F yes throttle is annoying when I get on interstate. I have to reset wrist position to get to 75 mph
You can definitely wheelie in 2nd gear it if you want. Just do a little power at a time until you learn what picks that front wheel up. It feels pretty stable too.
I own an mt03 and it's my third motorcycle. I've owned an R6 and a GSXR-750. I'm no longer into racing so I wanted something to cruise around town with a sporty light feeling. Let me say that customizing a motorcycle is part of the fun of owning a motorcycle. I have upgraded the levers as I love the feeling of solid adjustable levers. I switched out the throttle tube bc it did feel too long and I changed the exhaust. The mt03 is not a race bike but it revs nicely and I love it. There is no need to change the sprocket when you can just ride the motorcycle in the proper revs or use a little clutch to bring it up to speed. I love this bike. The price is right. The engine screams and it does what's its supposed to do. I can easily ride it on the highway and get up to 90mph or even 100 mph without a problem. If you like this bike then buy it.
I'm 6ft and 220 pounds. I find the mt03 really comfortable. It handles like a gem. I highly recommend this as a first bike.
Wait. You are 6 feet , and you find this bike REALLY comfortable? Everyone that has ridden it from my friends that are 6 feet and plus said this bike is really cramped for them. I wont even talk about me , 6'3 is just impossible i cant even change gears. So , one of us is lying lmao.
@@EleftheriosVen well im going to be riding my mt03 after work today 🤷♂️
Im 6f like you and im thiking to buy one. How is the ridin? Because i sat on it on a dealer and my knees was barely under the gas tank but while changing gear or while braking my knees touch it a little bit.
@@EleftheriosVen He must be a new rider, and hasn’t rode enough bikes to know any better.
@@EleftheriosVen u know people can have shorter legs even tho their are 6 foot.
and if he is 6 foot it might perfectly fit for him.
Here most of people have 110 cc or 150cc as entry level bikes!
Those are fun too. But if you have any highways, it's better to have bigger motor.
@@jtec99 they are not, they can't go beyond 80kmph and it's a pain
You forgot the 125cc haha topspeed of my 125cc is 108kph
50cc or 125cc in finland
Bhai bhai
Just wrecked my MT-03 smh low sided into a nice old lady’s lawn...she was chillin on her porch and i literally came crashing in
Were her flowers ok?
Riley Howard yes but her beautiful grass was a bit dug up
@@ssukhaii well atleast her beautiful flowers were okay, was she shaken up at all?
@@ssukhaii better help her out with the lawn of hers
poor bike 😥
Honestly, these vids have been a joke. They love the MT one week, then they shit on the MT another week. Then they talk how good it is again... I own one (zx6r prior) and you don't need to do sprocket etc to make it fun... you guys are missing the point with the small cc bikes.
all journalist talk bollocks
Agreed with most of your points but this bike definitely looks nicer than it’s competitors in my opinion.
I got the MT03 as my first bike.Even though the Z400 has more power, I found this one to be much more comfortable and easier to handle for me. I’m a 5’5 girl who doesn’t weigh that much so that might be why. The Duke was my next choice but the prince and looks was too good to choose otherwise I thought. I’m very happy and have had my black Mt03 for 3 months now. :)
I got the Ice Fluo. I almost went for the black, but decided that the colorful wheels would be easier to see for blind drivers.
You get a 'Prince' with it ? Lol .
I haven't been able to find a Z400 to sit on yet, but am also a very small person, so wondered how the two compared in that regard, other than the obvious difference in seat height? The 390 Duke was the most uncomfortable bike I have ever sat on, and to me, looks like they took a mini bike and made the ergonomics fit a giant. lol
I’m about to buy an MT03 in a few days here. I feel super confident in my purchase after research but I’d love to know what your opinion on the bike is now that it’s been a few months
@@braedenchapman7227 sorry I just saw this. Did you end up getting the bike? I loved it honestly, couldn’t ask for a better priced bike with its comfort and handling. Super beginner friendly. If you are a big guy and over 6ft though it may feel a bit cramped depending on how long your legs are
I think you're judging this bike from the wrong perspective. Not your fault: You can't change your experience and proclivities.
A new rider won't notice yam's complaints bc theyre new. Yam notices bc he has riden a ton of bikes
I have a FZ-10 and 2 MT-03s and ride them with my kids. The 03s are a blast to drive. The people that think you have to have the max about of HP have maturity issues.
I bought one as a beginner bike because it's affordable and reliable. For me it doesn't need geared down, loud pipe, switchable abs, none of that. I ride rural back roads with gear. Not everyone wants to play nooners and tail slides primarily.
I agree. I have the 2020 MT03 and it's perfect for me as a beginner. I just don't get why anyone would spend more than $750 on mods with the intent to go faster. You might as well just get an MT07.
Looking to do the same riding. Back roads and forestry service roads with my son who is too young for road license. Did you make any mods for this type of riding? They need to make an adventure ADV trim for this MT-03
Yamaha has very good reliability, can't say the same for the KTM
New buyers be aware. Your MSRP is just the base price. Add "transport" and "dealer prep", your pre tax adds $1,500 + whatever your state's sales tax. A $4,500 bike can cost up to $6,500 OTD.
They even added a small fee for each tire and the battery... 🤦♂️
Very important info never talked about here
Never pay dealer prep
To be forwarned is to be forarmed.
yup its fucking bs
I've rode my m-t03 for about 2500km over the last 3-4 months. As a guy at 5ft 6 it's really assuring to know that you can nearly put both feet down on the ground. The ergos are really comfy with a much more comfortable seat than the Duke. As a new rider I found it really fun to crank the throttle so far to get the speed up. 0-60 is where this bike is most enjoyable. I'd say if your a short person wanting to get in to riding bikes and go practice every day for an hour or more to get your skills up, this is a good platform to start on. Additionally your glutes will thankyou because of a much more comfy seat after spending over an hour enjoying a ride.
I do love how brutally honest you’re with stuff. But I still want one of these to start out. Then I’ll adjust in time.
The Honda Grom has a lower seat height. I trained on one at an MSF training course. I used two different Groms and both allowed me to easily place both feet flat on the pavement. I own a MT-03 and I cannot place both my feet flat on the pavement. I have incurable stage 4 cancer in my spine. I had to take two MSF courses to pass and get my endorsement. I also have partial paralysis in both legs. Learning to ride was my dream and the number 1 item on my bucket list. I was ecstatic to pass the MSF course and get my license and a new Yamaha MT-03!!! I am 4 years past diagnosis and 3 years past prognosis. The MT-03 is absolutely perfect for me with no changes. I am 63vyears old. Praise God!!! Its not about me. It's about inspiring the handicapped and terminal patients.
Congratulation Reggie!
I am 33, riding bikes since I was 4 (started with a PW50). Got a brand new black matte 2022 MT03 a month ago and it is stock, I can’t complain about anything on it. Perfect for work and nothing wrong with it on highways at 70mph.
I will only add a full Akrapovic carbon exhaust and CRG rc2 levers next week. That is it and I still love it stock so I am just throwing money on it cause I want.
Yammie, when complaining about low seat height, please remember that you are taller than the average US male ( 5' 9" or 1.75m). American women are, on average, 5.4 inches shorter (1.62m). It is also especially important for new riders to be able to place both feet firmly on the ground, since continually dropping a motorcycle while trying to learn is a major reason newcomers give up. Me, I am short and have a 28" (71cm) inseam and have a hard time finding naked or "standards" that have a sufficiently low seat. I am old and don't like to use the "one cheek" method of reaching the ground.
I DO think that more motorcycles, especially ones for beginners, should have adjustable-height seats, or at least several seats of different heights readily available for purchase.
I agree. Boy the Honda Rebel has a REALLLLY LOW seat height.
Absolutely! I'm also old with a 28" inseam, and have ridden for most of my life, from dirt bikes, to sport bikes, to cruisers. One of the most important things about a bike is its comfort and ergonomics. It gets tiring hearing a 6' and 6'3" guy advising everyone that motorcycle nirvana is all about adrenaline.
I was less than thrilled about goin out to try a used MT and immediately finding it fR too tight, too compact in th tank/saddle area.... Almost as if Yamaha threw us taller riders to th wind.
Everything else about it, i loved.... But instead i went home despondent and feeling penalized for being taller, at 6ft even.
Now i hav to look at bikes outside my price range jus to find a decent fit.
No, yammie is not being one bit too hard on em.
@@rimrunz1795 You might want to look at the XSR700. Although it is a bit more expensive, it has a higher seat.
@@rimrunz1795 tbh nearly every bike fit a 6 foot tall guy perfectly. on the other hand there arent many bikes which fit shorter people below 6 foot. depending on their inseam length. so you shouldnt really have something to complain about.
the honda cb300r should still be within your price range for example and it has a bigger seat height. if yamaha will launch the xsr300 this would be an option.
MT-03 rider here. I agree with Yammie’s points. I chose this bike because I’m 5”5’ and this one is the best for my seat height and ergos. I’m under no illusion that this is the best. BUT... I’m not selling this thing to buy the competitor’s product because the difference is marginal. I’ll just gonna wait and get a much powerful bike when I’m good and ready and can afford it.
well? DId you upgrade?
I bought one of these in May and I looove it. The looks pulled me in initially, I reckon its the best looking MT. It could definitely do with a bigger motor but this package is real nimble and zippy enough to have fun on. I'm 6'2" and never found an issue with ergonomics, but having said that I only have experience with small bikes (MC22 CBR, ZXR250A and a '94 Bandit 250) so it could be that I just don't know better.
I hated the Duke 390 I borrowed while the MT got serviced. Weird foot position, lumpy motor, twitchy throttle, floppy/mushy controls. Did feel a touch quicker though.
I chose the MT03 over the Duke because of seat height , and reliability and I absolutely love it.Great beginner bike. I don,t think it needs more power , it can easily pass anything on the highway but is more suited to urban and sealed country roads , due to weight , feels a bit too light at high speeds. I am a 70 year old returning rider and 5'5 , this bike can scare me if I 'fang' it. It sounds great with the Akrapovic exhaust put on by the previous owner. I have just put bar-end mirrors on and will probably do more upgrades if I keep it. I have realized I would like a bike that can handle dirt and gravel roads . The Svartpilen looks good but seat height might be an issue , as with most adventure bikes. Love your enthusiasm Yammie Noob !
awesome! adv are usually taller due to avoid so much dirty, but you can adapt, you can choose a light one. KTM has awesome bikes to go
The smaller the CC, the better for a beginner tbh. I miss small displacement power. Makes me feel like a mighty warrior weaving through traffic at full throttle.
Fat Boy is the best beginner bike
I went with the Z400 over the MT03, and I'm really glad I did. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the Z400 on a test ride.
I've done the same.
I made the same decision too.
Same here, I'm 6'2 200 and the mt was just too small. Cruising on the highway is also easier with the extra power here in Az.
Was it not almost 1.5 times costlier than MT-03 or an R3 or even a N300
@@sandeephukku3546 mine was 500 bucks more
I'm 6'2" with a 33-34" inseam and started riding this year on a 250 dual sport. High seat like a 450 dirt bike, plenty of space. I have since moved on to an mt-07 which has a slightly taller seat than the 03.
I get to fire through all 6 gears at wide open throttle and really ring it out, as opposed to a higher power bikes that can only truly “live” on freeways. “Slow” bike fast. The thrill of the ride can be had on a DAILY basis while mastering fundamentals.
Low operation and maintenance costs. Unique sporty looks. The lower costs results in affording higher quality gear which is safer and looks bad ass.
The reasons I chose the MT-03. Zero regrets.
I'm at work watching this without headphones and did NOT expect the phrase "I think you should save up and get another baby naked" 😂
I have a 2020 r1 , a gen 1 busa and just bought 2020 mt03. And I love beating around town on it riding wheelies.
If someone picked this up as the first motorcycle they've ever ridden, they would have no idea what a good bike or a bad one felt like. I liken it to the way people complain about MT clutch levers and how they engage so far out. I'm so accustomed to it I wouldn't want it any other way. People talk about they MT-07 and up have snatchy throttles and my FZ-07 feel just fine because I know how to use it.
I'd say if it feels anything like my FZ-07 feels, Any new rider would be very pleased with how it feels to control and how sturdy it feels. After a few months a person could upgraded the throttle tube, then when they feel their pace picking up, get the brakes sorted. By no means should anyone buy a brand new bike and feel like they need to upgrade literally everything.
@Zealadinn Most bikes (besides one overpriced brand I won't mention here) are very good today. So yeah, nitpicks everywhere.
The Yamaha is a lot less likely to break.
As long as it's Japanese it will rarely be broken and if it is then it's most likely easy to fix. Very few Japanese vehicles are permantely broken.
yeah i can agree. even i just own a 125cc Honda scooter, it's been 7 years daily driving that shit and it's still working properly with no issues. well there were some issues but it's so easy to fix and it doesn't cost that much to do something to it xd
A argument can be made for and against every single bike in that class.
At the end of the day its about what works for you.
I fit on it..and its indestructible.
Sold.
After all the reveiws i have seen, i beleive that is the Best choice for the beginers because once you domain the basics, you'll learn on how to make the upgrades that you have done with the Yamaha You have 10 times more choices than the husk... or the ktm, maibe the Kawasaki Will have more options on the after market parts.
But any way great video keep up the good work.
I just got mine yesterday, Im 5.4 tall
damn this is just the perfect bike for me.
Im loving it so much
You sill enjoying it now? i’m planning to get one
@@LordOfWaffles32 yup. Still fun as heck, might need to change tires as ive been tearing these babys alot lol
@@doodskie999 Great to know, Thanks!
the mt03 is the best lower cc naked in its class. by far. my brother has a z400, he says the transmission and clutch is better on the mt03 than the z400. ktm has some reliability issues and the rest of them are kind of meh in price. so mt03 is the best in terms of price and and in terms of reliability. ergonomics are on point as well I'm 6'3 and feel amazing on it so
I just started watching the video but let me just start sating by "f* Yamaha for not updating MT07"
No, Yamaha, I don't want to cheap out on suspension & brakes... FFS.
Launch an SP model or something.
If you want a hypernaked, go to the source man. KTM might be kinda expensive, but if you want a Naked/Hypernaked its worth it.
@@theunitedempire6532 I've got to agree, the prices for the Dukes might be intimidating for some but it's DEFINETLY worth it with all the cool shit you get with it
@@stubbisNO definatly agree..i own a SDR1290. and for the money, i only feel like the only thing you may want is an exhaust. The other stuff you do to it is for fun or asthetics. My buddy has a MT10 and has over 20k into it,(including the price of the bike) and he still like the SDR more
@@rubberskilla2991 I've only got a Duke 125 but it's way ahead of it's competition. I've also tried the 790 and it's a beast, and I can't imagine how the 1290 is compared to that
@@stubbisNO yup, I will probably go with the 890 r.
I like the fact that they have a heavier crank now because now it won't have those annoying 2nd order vibrations.
Should test-ride it... as soon as this corona crap is over 😒 Melbourne has seen better days.
Would've considered cb650r as well if it didn't have an inline 4. I like simplicity & there's nothing simple about that engine.
Pretty sure if it’s your first bike you’re not going to notice all those negative points about the bike
So going through the comments this is what I have learned. This is a great beginner’s bike the video doesn’t target the actual purpose of this bike
I agree with most of this video, I test rode 2 bikes before getting my first bike, the mt03 and the z400 and I bought the z400 because it was so much more fun. It was not just the power, it had a more sporty handling that made it feel better to lean into the corners.
Love my MT03 it has been a fantastic experience 🇺🇸
This might be a hot take but I feel like the look of the bike is one of the more important things to me. For example, I LOVE the specs and features of the Duke 390, but personally I can not stand the look of it. In the end I went with a CB300R.
of course bc if you have a bike you don’t like the look of you’re gonna be embarrassed to ride it
At 73 I just bought an MT 03 delivery date November 1st, I've owned a few big bikes in the past but at my age this bike will be perfect for me...
I'm just a little older and did similar three years ago. It suits me 100% and I'm never left being when I go out with my friends on larger capacity bikes. I downsized from a large Bonneville and the combined weight of myself and the mt 03 is about the same as the Bonneville alone, no wonder it performs well ! I hope you're enjoying your new bike, best wishes.
@user-rf9me7xm1w thank you, you be safe riding...
I have a CB650F. I still got my 1978 cb125T, overbored to the last millimeter of the sleeve for around 150cc of displacement. It barely brakes compared to modern bike but if I have to take a trip of less than two hours, I'll take my small CB twin. It can cruise at 80 mph (at 12.000 rpm, mind you...), will take insane abuse (14.000 rpm through each gear) and still gets me smiling. It's 115 kgs wet, around 20bhp, screams like nothing else while being zippy (but not really fast...). I'll never sell it. Small bikes make you feel young.
Mt25 just launch in my country (Malaysia). The ABS part got my interest, most 250 in my country doesn't have abs
I want the kawasaki zx25R to be released in America soo bad.. doubt it will though, sucks
RIP MH370 ✈️
I was in the market for a Husky Svart 401 but it is basically a unicorn of a motorcycle and after checking out half a dozen dealers in my state i gave up. Even if i was gonna get my hands on one i was told it would have been marked up like crazy with OTD price approaching 9 grand. Ended up getting a used 2021 MT-03 with 425 miles on it, so not even broken in for $4K. I am 6ft 3 and yes the tank is in the way of my knees but i got so used to it, i actually prefer now sitting "in" the bike and how i can really hug it with my knees and having more leverage that way. I think MT is a fantastic bike to learn on and i really enjoy it and have zero regrets. I know i will eventually "outgrow" it and probably end up on a larger ADV bike next year or so but the little MT is soooo much fun to toss around and especially on twisty roads. I guess the point i'm trying to make is if you're a taller rider, don't let this video to deter you from pulling the trigger on the MT. Especially with Husqvarna's latest reliability record, since new Svarts are now built in India.
One thing I have noticed with what people buy as beginner bikes is what is accessable to people. Where I live in Wisconsin unless you want to drive at least 3 hours away your only options are a Honda dealer that stocks almost no motorcycles or a Harley dealer that stocks almost nothing but $40000 baggers.
Respect the Honesty. I also want competition to regulate better, more innovative bikes, but I bought a MT03 in July. I'm 5'8" After 1,500 miles on the street I'm not disappointed. It's a fun bike with the assumption that rider skills dictate handling of the bike. I'm not expecting any bike to dictate the ceiling of enjoyment. The bike handles; it's light, and easy to lean on the street. The features of the bike should still allow 6' + riders to gain loads of confidence and skills to upgrade without underutilizing say a xsr 700. Your alternatives are very scarce in this market. The Z400 felt physically more confining with poor vision from the mirrors. I wouldn't want anyone to settle, but it has enough bones to develop the right way. I wouldn't discourage the purchase or wait for something that's unavailable. These bikes in my area since July are scarce, and I'm in SE Coastal Ga. Just be thankful you are one of the few who loves to ride, has that CM license, passed an MSF and has the freedom to gear up and ride everyday....I love it.
Thanks for the Svartpilen video, I'll check your others to learn about the MT-03.
We need an MT05 (with 460cc - 499cc) but with the same weight as an MT03.
Mine kicks ass. I love it. Who gives a shit but I'm 5'9 ish with short ass 32" inseam and were all different. Yeah it need the throttle tube mod, I like that it has me adding small parts and wrenching and adding things. Power is cool as shit, whollies in two and fine for passing in traffic. Best bike ever. Yeah it's my first street bike.
Plot twist: everybody loves MT-03, Yammie Noob just grabbing attention scolding it.
Srsly if you aren't fond of KTM's orange "designers diarrhea" (c) F9 and unreliability and aren't going to search for Husqvarna which nonexistant (at least in my country, guess things in USA aren't as easy as Yammie says), you are stuck between MT-03, Z400 and CB300R. First two are very similar while CB300R is smaller, lighter, 1-cylinder bike. So if you aren't KTM guy there is no reason not too choose an MT-03.
PS Husqvarna design is rather dubious too.
The 2 Husky offerings are parts bin bikes. They use the frame and engine unit from the Duke 390.
Jason Graham “badge engineering”
I really hate the MT-03. I also do not like KTM brand. I had a Duke 690 for a month and couldn't find anything I liked about it.
There are more than just two choices out there...just saying.
@@jasongraham3488 saw one in person the other day, the 401, and wish I had gotten that over my duke to be honest. It looks really good.
Say what? The Vitpilen 701 looks amazing. I'm usually not a fan of clip-on bars, but I'm seriously considering getting a Vitpilen just for riding shorter trips.
fully agreed with Yammie after riding the MT-03 for the past 2 years. unfortunately in my country, Kawasaki is really not well-represented and therefore have parts problem and its cost itself is almost $2000 USD more than MT-03. Honestly, MT-03 is a nice bike to learn, but anymore than that might be pushing a bit especially in big country like US.
I’m actually waiting to take delivery of my MT-03 this weekend. I kept going back and forth with it and the Z400 but the seating position on the z400 just didn’t work for me. Felt like it kept pushing me into the tank. The MT-03 felt perfect ergonomically for me. I haven’t ridden in 17 years so the less torque down low and little longer throttle tube I think is ok. When I want a shorter throttle, I’ll do the mod. I also personally like the gray/cyan color they’ve had for ‘23 and ‘24 more than the current Kawasaki colors.
Here is a fifteen minute video about everything wrong with the mt-03 and how great the svartpilen is
but this isn't a "bad" bike.
Basically summarizes all the videos where he complains. Harley's, liter bikes, 300cc bikes, etc all have problems but that doesn't make them bad.
I think it looks better than the other bikes you mentioned! Doing the upgrades is the funnest part of having the motorcycle!! 😆
Didn’t even take 10 years. Where I took the MSF course, they just bought a few MT-03s and were walking them in as we were taking our evaluation.
I am finally a part of the gang! Got my first bike ever yesterday wich is a ktm duke 125 (i live in the EU) 2011 and i love it!
Nice i just got a 2016 model!
I feel like this is a video about a beginner bike, that has the expectations of a non beginner. I want it to do this and that and this. And that's because you're not a beginner. And Yamaha isn't pitching this bike to you. Like you said it's a hook. Is it a fun hook? Is it a cheap hook? Is it a reliable hook? Will I want to move into a better bike after I'm not a beginner? Yes to all of that. So I don't see the problem.
Get an R3, Tune It, Exhaust , R6 Throttle Tube. 👌🏼 Svartpilen 401, would be nice with very little modification. I think a used MT-07 or KTM 390 Duke would be a good option too.
Mt03 is great because it's available global. You go to europe there are mt03s you go to India there are mt03s you go to Indonesia there are mt03s so no problem doing world touring with this bike if you plan to.
I loved my '21 MT03. The only reason I traded it in was to get the MT07 and a little more power. Other than you can out grow it pretty fast, I have no complaints against it. Plus ...TST Industries offers alot of upgrades for it. Also add the R6 throttle tube to really make it open up.
I feel like you guys missed something about the MT-03 : it's past. The 2014+ lack the pure Power and torque the older model offer. For anyone who doesn't know, until 2014, the MT-03 was a 660cc single cylinder engine, 56 N*m of torque. The newer models stand at 321cc twin engine, same engine as the R3 and as a rider and mechanic, 300cc twin engines are basically sloths below ~7000 rpm, especially at low speeds. If you want a fun bike, that is also great at long trips you should defenetly go for the 2006-2014 models. Single cylinder and high cc are always a fun combination, numbers prove it
You guys need to do a $1500 limit on a bike and drive it around for a month and do a review just like top gear
This is the bike I did my learners course on.. it was comfy and good to learn with
Internet power warriors are disconnected from reality. MT-03 has 42hp and 168kg. With 70kg rider it has power to weight ratio of 176.4hp/tonne. Roughly in the ballpark of stock Impresa WRX STI.
And STI is not a beginners car.
I enjoy his content. But my first bike is gonna be a supermoto. I live in a semi rural town. I might be 5’7” but I don’t mind shifting to the side and giving the tiptoe method. I love the durability and versatility of a supermoto.
P.S. where’s my sumo lovers?
Mt 03 is super cool aesthetically and it’s a upgrade over my grom clone so I’m getting it
Dude. I just came from an MT-03 video where a 6'2" dude was talking about how it wasn't too small and it felt right to him. Dude here is saying it's so small it'd be good for 5'3" guys. Wtf lol
Take $1,200 to 2,000. Buy a 2000's era Suzuki GS500 pref the F model. And turn it into any of the bikes he mentioned. Yes it has carbs. Make sure you buy one w freshly tuned carbs and your good. It has batter ergos than than my faster SV. But it's a lego bike that can be turned into anything. Watch videos on what people have done with these. I have a 68 shovelhead that I hate but it's sentimental, an SV 650 and it's to crampy for me. A nighthawk 250 because it's hilarious. But I ride the GS500f that I turned into a Svartpillen everyday. Love this channel.
I’m a third world rider. Traffic is nuts and an mt03 here is more than enough for the daily commute as most bikes here are between the 100cc - 250cc mark pushing anywhere between 7hp to 20hp to the wheel. Thing in this video is that it seems like yammie is judging the bike based on low end torque, by granny shifting and not really getting the rpms up there as they should be. For the r3/03 engine platform that’s just not where the power’s at.. In relation to the “needs to change the sprocket” ordeal, I humbly disagree. It’s got it’s power band in between 8500k to 13k so if you’re expecting to feel it’s power in the lower rpms, you WILL NOT feel it there. Mine stops the speedometer from reading at 199kmph(I Reside in Brazil) while it’s still at 11,500rpm, which means in reality it prolly tops out around 205/210kmph(125mph) -as I’ve recorded on my speedometer app couple times before- considering it actually only redlines at 13k. No tune, fully stock pipe, no air filter, chain lubbed up and tires set at 42psi on regular gas. I’m 5’10 and weigh around 160lbs.
Meant to underline the part that’s crossed out 😅🤙🏼
It's a cheap well made entry level bike if your complaining about power why get a 300 in the first place. It performs well at what it is made for. If you like the look but want more power just get the 700.
I picked a Kawasaki z400 just cuz it’s a Kawasaki and it’s been my dream to own a Kawasaki since I was a child. I researched it, read it was reliable and overall a good bike so I got it, I don’t really care if it’s the best or not, that’s just what I wanted
Stale comment… but I have a 2021. I’m 5’8 and I can barely flat foot the bike with both feet. I have a shorter torso so I guess that’s expected. However it’s a great starter bike or upgrade from a grom or z125. Very easy to ride and a great entry bike. This or an R3. Recommend for sure.
Guys... skip these entry level bikes and go straight to intermediate. Something like a Ninja 650 or SV650. Being underpowered can be even more dangerous than a little extra power.
The z400 is the best beginner naked bike but No bike is a bad choice. The mt03 is one of the torquiest beginner motorcycles out there and goes 100 stock if you can handle the wind which is very fast for a 325cc naked bike
Getting mod for your bike is fun. To me it's definitely one of the best start bike out there. If I could get one I would definitely be happy with it. Also I prefer naked over sport bike so I'm biased
I picked up one of these for my first bike. Another I considered was the Z-400, and honestly it "felt" smaller (I felt more cramped on it than on the MT-03; I'm 5'8 145#); I rode one at a Kawasaki event and to me the MT-03 rode just a hair better (Z-400 won out in some respects, MT-03 in others). Since then I've put nearly 3500 miles on it, and it's done me well. Yeah I'm not super confident riding it on gravel, but I've been down a few gravel roads at ~35mph and made it out the other end unscathed. For the kind of riding I want to do, it's great - and I get a ton of compliments about its looks from other riders. Yeah, the Svartpilen 401 may be a better starter bike for someone who wants to take it off-road a lot, but for someone just doing street riding, knobby tires, adjustable suspension, on/off rear ABS are not as important - and that $400 difference in MSRP could be the difference between getting it getting it for under $5k or not (or in my case, $5.5k because VA taxes vehicles at point of sale AND annually)
If you change it's exhaust with a Mivv one do you need to change anything on the ecu or can you just take the old out and put a new in ?
What about the Honda Cb300r seems like no one ever talks about those
They're solid bikes, but they're massively outclassed by the MT03, Duke 390, and Z400
In my humble opinion , really expensive for what they offer , might as well go for cb500f. Price difference in my country isnt that big. Also , if you are tall , the bike is extremely small.
They’re over engineered but solid bikes but you don’t even get a full 300 it’s like 289
I think they need to put this drivetrain into an updated XT250 dual sport chassis.. Looking for a D-Sport, but Air Cooled 9:1 is barely modern? The KLX300 is the one to beat, and Kaw is charging $6100 plus big dealer markup for theirs. Just not worth it for a thumper single.. The real KLR650 full adventure boat is just a tad more which is silly. Yamaha.. do some of your small twin water cooled magic on the XT250.. keep it $5500 in 2024 dollars and you'll own the dual sport market.
Yamaha is not even ready to sell MT-03 in India MT-15 is the only naked offering from yamaha tbh they are just being lazy I'd rather buy d390 or Svartpilen 401 when it release in late 2020
I thought you guys had the MT-25?? We have that in Japan.
Why not buy an R3. If stance is too low go for N300 or TNT300
@@michaelcallisto nope, we have the shitty-as-fuck fz 25. It's almost as if yamaha is racist to India.
@@michaelcallisto and the only other "motorcycles" they sell here are the overpriced r15, the mt09 (not sp) and the r1.
No 700s. No fjr. No xsr. No tracer. No r6. No 600s.
And they wonder why ktm gets all the sales here.
@@sivvinod3187 That makes no sense. The only colour companies care about is green.
The 2020 MT-03 seat height is about 30.7 inches. My 2008 Honda Nighthawk CB250 seat height is about 29.3 inches. Neither of these bikes are Groms? It is easier to add some height to the seat than to lower a tall bike. Ride what fits you. Ride what you can control. There is no hurry to kill yourself by being over-biked and riding a 650cc, or 1000cc bike. This channel speaks with a forked tongue. Promises made in the evening are broken in the morning kinda stuff.
I can say that Yamaha's lower displacements bikes are slower than it's competitor for example this MT03 is so slow that my Yamaha UB150 with a 59mm block and 19/22 valves can keep up with the MT Plus with a much fuel effecient having 40kmp/l.
what bike are you talking about at 7:45???
What is the fuel consumption if you change it into fully exhaust ??
I think the point of needed to do the upgrades is to also teach yourself how to work on the bike and I feel it make the bike more personal to the rider but then again I am a Nutt case lol
My DREAM motorcycle is 125cc (Honda CT125 Hunter Cub) so different strokes for different folks.
5,499 is the price for a kawasaki versys x 300 and it is said to be very smooth. I'm sure there are a lot of 1 thumpers in the beginner bike catagory and older new riders or really anyone not thinking Iron me like a crisp white shirt might put vibration experience very high in how they are going to feel about biking in the long run.
I hate the ergos of the Duke. It's too sporty when I prefer something upright. It's hard in the small girl, small displacement area to find something that isn't a 250cc cruiser or a Ninja. When we think about the question, why don't women ride - the answer really is that it's hard to find an option that fits us. Can we tiptoe at stoplights on a high seat with a twitchy throttle we can barely reach? Sure, but we don't want to.
Man up
How small are we talking about? I'm 167 cm (5.5) and it's not really a problem.
This is my biggest gripe with the MT-03: If you are 6 foot or taller with proportionally-sized legs this bike is not for you. Sit on it and you will immediately hate it. Your knees will sit too high against the tank and those aggressive side angles will push down on your knees in an extremely uncomfortable and cramped way. This is a bike for smaller people only with zero effort to accommodate slightly taller than average riders.
Wow, a 321cc isn’t as fast or as powerful as a 390 or 399cv motorcycle, who knew! Is it faster than a BMW with 312cc’s? Come on man, simple math in the performance dpt
now I need to understand why here in Switzerland the duke 390 costs 5900, when it should cost more than the mt03, which is priced at 6200 francs
in Italy mt03 cost 400€ less but duke 390 is well worth the extra price
Yammie, I can think of a reason to get the MT-03. Maybe for someone who lives in a city with no off-road places around (likeNYC). But then maybe start on a Ninja 400?
If they wanted to present valid reviews on these smaller entry level bikes, instead of a partner who is 6' 3" and 230lbs, he should have a woman who is 5' tall and closer to 100lbs testing them too. A lot of women have told me that what turned them off to motorcycling wasn't just the seat height, but mostly the weight. Motorcycling isn't just about riding, it's also about parking, turning something around in a small space that doesn't have a reverse gear, moving in and out of a garage, and etc. Give me an MT-03 that weighs closer to the 300lb mark, and I'm all in!
Planning on picking up a new mt03 before the weather warms up enough to ride. Yamaha already made a fanboy out of me with the yz125 and yz250. I just want a reliable, cheap to own, street focused commuter bike and I do like the look and ergonomics of the mt03. If I want to race it’ll be off-road and on a dirt bike. I watched my brother dig himself in a huge legal hole riding his Kawasaki ninja too fast on the street. He has to ride a Yamaha zuma scooter now because he hasn’t been able to get his license back. So I don’t care that the 03 is slower than most of it’s competition. I’m not really looking for performance. Because of the roads in my area I highly doubt I’ll ever take it on the interstate where the speed limit is 70-80mph. Those roads for me are so out of the way I really only use them if I’m going out of state. So we’re talking 55mph roads tops for me and I want to shift the bike more. Just as with manual cars I feel it helps keep me engaged and focused. I don’t want a bigger bike that I only use half the gears in.
You should say you're making constructive criticisms, big difference from "clowning" on a bike. You could very well get on any bike anywhere and pick a handful of things that could be better.
It's priced aggressively as you said. Obviously not everything is going to be as good as it could be.
As a brand new rider, I love my mt-03, however, I can see how from a more experienced riders perspective, it would seem very tame. I looked at other bikes in the class, I chose this for because it fit my needs, everyone’s needs vary.