While disappointing, that's very understandable. I've honestly been wondering how much longer you would hold out on Sims 4 since the My First Pet Stuff pack. No quarrel from me, that's for sure.
It was - sewing/clothes making was a tiny part of the Sims 2 freetime expansion! It even let you make your own custom clothes, teddy bears, quilts, potholders, curtains...
@@gustavgurke9665 yeah it's not really explored and what you name is pretty basic even as you max ot the skill. As someone who loves woodworking it's like it's not even there.
i know that people are saying “well the community voted for this pack!” but we kinda....didn’t? the way voting works is very manipulative. they start out with a broad idea than narrow it down so much that it’s stupid. i voted for arts and crafts in the beginning because I thought that it would be all about all aspects of arts and crafts. then the sims devs whittled it down so much that it just became knitting. the way that the sims team does the voting is so frustrating because you think you’re gonna get more out of something than what they actually give you.
It did say from the start that it would only be one small idea from the theme and not every single thing. You're not the only one who misunderstood, but they weren't lying
@@thegamingwolf8755 Yeah, It could have been everything from sculpting to quilting to knitting to macrame (haha). When I voted for "Arts and Crafts" I didn't know that meant "Just knitting, nothing else". The argument of people voting for it - the answer is yes but no, not really.
If this was all the content of a knitting mod (aka something you can get for free, which someone with passion made in their free time), it'd be super impressive and cool. But as the product of a whole ass company?! EA. You can do better. We KNOW you can. Stop bullshitting us.
Modders won’t even make these kinds of mod because they would be busy completing other features that EA leave out so they can pile the game up with frivolous stuffs that don’t add to gameplay.
This honestly should have been a part of Eco Lifestyle. Making your own clothes AND furniture? Definitely would have made E.L. more enjoyable in my opinion
Should of just expanded the woodworking table and added knitting. The replicator, or whatever it's called, feels so clunky and out of place, like something out of the science career from Get to Work.
Honestly Laundry Day, Eco Lifestyle, and Knifty Knitting could've all been one pack. Not to mention the "saving the environment" feature is already apart of Island Living.
@@waifu_png_pl6854 Yep! You can have a career in saving the environment on the island. It doesn't affect the rest of the world tho. It's VERY similar to Eco Living, so much so that I question why they made that pack in the first place.
I'm glad it's not- I'll probably get this at some point, but am never getting Eco Lifestyle. A way to make my neighbors even more identical and a system that only really works if you go and edit everyone's houses in build mode? Yay what fun
At this point - they could literally recycle old sims 2 and 3 packs but with better graphics and I'll be satisfied. So disappointed that they tainted the reputation of this game that was once so loved.
@@daimhinaubrey3194 RetroGames site. Instructions are on that website and on youtube. I installed The Sims 2 in march and it's working great (I have a non gaming laptop).
Thumbellina J. awww thanks! i’ve tried installing sims makin magic and it ALMOST WORKED after me battling my laptop for 6+ hours. but in the end, it didn’t :c haven’t tried sims2 but hopefully it actually does work. i feel like i’m cursed bc nothing ever works correctly for me even though it does for literally everyone else 🤣
or the devs arent being paid for their time to fix what's already there, EA is trying to squeeze stuff out without paying the money for the content creators to make it even good :/ I dont blame the devs, I blame whoever's funding them.
Another example that Democracy doesn't equal good by default. If leaders don't offer you good choices to vote between, letting people vote doesn't really matter.
@@irishgiant5150 Vote with your wallets FFS -- EA can get away with all this because who else is offering the same type of product? Maybe Second Life? Honestly I don't know, never played it. But we need someone to make a life sim game with a different formula but the same ideas. Unfortunately nobody seems to think there's enough in that pie for them to go against EA.
Sad thing is there’s so much they could add that wouldn’t have that vibe. And as LGR notes, their packs have a NARROW focus, which especially reinforces the idea that pack ideas are narrow
Yeah 10$ dollars for a stuff pack that barely contains alot of things. Really? And I don't even play the sims 4, but this is disappointing. Look at sims 1, 2, and 3, there are so many objects, including cars. But in the sims 4, there's hardly anything unless you use mods and there no cars to drive. It sucks tbh.
if they had even just made this an overall stitching pack, with knitting, crocheting, embroidering, and sewing, i would’ve been happier! but JUST knitting?? ridiculous
Yeah. I think he was a little harsh ( to be clear I think Nifty Knitting is way too shallow for $10, but calling it the most pointless add on yet is too much when there are packs like My First Pet Stuff and Laundry Day), but my issue with Nifty Knitting is the implication that if just that one aspect was $10, than the other 4 aspects that were up for the vote would’ve been worth an expansion or more, which is ridiculous. The Sims 2 Free Time gave you 10 hobbies of which a completely fleshed out Arts and Crafts was one, along with 6 new careers, and for $30.
LITERALLY. They already have decorative cross stitch and a decorative weaving loom etc in the buy mode stuff. I LOVE knitting but this isn't even in depth enough with it to feel worth it for me. Most of the knitted objects look like they were sewed or crocheted anyway
Brody Butler That’s the part I don’t get. They literally make a pack solely for knitting that doesn’t even really show knitted objects. The laziness is astounding to me.
When I saw a picture of it a few days ago I thought it was prank. It had to be! Nifty knittting, seriously? What comes next? Miraculous mowing? Exciting exfoliating? Something about the fun of tax declaration?
The community has so far voted for laundry and knitting, so I am guessing they would be on board for those. I wanted the haunted stuff pack, seances and the such... but nope the people have spoken and they want dull reality.
Also, at the end of every Sims 4 survey, there is a disclosure that EA has the right to choose a theme completely different from what you voted for. P.S - Knitting animation was already in Discover University :o
@A real bisexual petrol-head damn boi your hatred is intense. But seriously tho. I hope there is another decent and better life simulator that can bury the sims.
@A real bisexual petrol-head yeah, I use to have a trashy Toshiba laptop. It was so slow and couldn't handle my sims 3. Neither could any of my HP laptops. The Sims 4 definitely did run alot better on laptops, but I upgraded to a gaming PC. It's a Ryzen 7 and runs greatly. It's like heaven to play the Sims 3 now and ofc the Sims 4. But Sims 4 is damn right boring, Sims 3 over Sims 4 anyday. I'm just hoping if they do release a Sims 5 that it will be just like the Sims 3 but with better graphics and more interactions with other Sims like in the Sims 4. Because the expansion packs and everything in Sims 3 had alot more stuff in it. But I feel like with other Sims there's more interactions. I'd for sure buy the Sims 5 if it has the open world, more stuff and everything in the expansion packs and make it so we can actually play as our pets in it but with the Sims 4 graphics, human interactions and build mode. That shit would be great.
Paralives gets cooler with each dev update, I swear. Did you see those frame customisation options? It seems minor but that level of object depth is very, very exciting.
i mean with how little content there is you could have both and it still would be worth 10 bucks. theyre so lazy and i hate that it works because one day i know i will buy this pack
c I don’t have the Sims 4 because I will never give them money. Even if they released SimCity 6 (which they won’t), and it was actually good (which it won’t be) I would rather get Cities: Skylines 2. C:S is an affordable game with (mostly) good DLCs. EA is such a horrible company, and if people stopped buying overpriced DLCs, either EA will lower the price, or EA will lose too much money.
I love sims, yet even with all the free time I have due to quarantine I haven’t played in weeks. So dry and boring. No opportunity for story making and no personalization. Just drab
right? just give us better access to sims 3, fix the "bug" with the final patch of the game that destroys CC compatibility, and overhaul the graphics and create-a-sim to be like sims 4 and we wont even NEED a sims 5.
Jude Gestalt Also the Build/Buy mode from Sims 4, as well as some minor game improvements like the multitasking and places being busier. People have far more powerful hardware now, so there’s no excuse for not going back to the open world and customisation of Sims 3.
As soon as the stuff pack was released, the main thing I was exited about was the video LGR was going to make about it. The review is worth more than the stuff pack, and the video also provided more enjoyment the knitting would've given me.
Remember the days when something like this would have been a minor aspect of a massive expansion in Sims 3? I have no idea how EA gets away with this. Anyway, great video as always LGR.
Sadly a majority of fans on FB and twitter do defend EA on these kind of contents. They thought all the 'haters' simply hate knitting and should just stay silent while we really don't care about it if knitting was part of a bigger game pack / expansion. Try having constructive criticism on them and they still stubbornly say, "Well, I get what you say but I still love the pack."
I actually think the way they did packs in the start was better. When they added vampires they actually got focused on so they weren't like given just a few abilities they felt like an actual game feature In sims 3 supernatural none of the supernaturals felt done. But their content ever since their island paradise clone has completely lacked all sense of the first dlcs they released. I don't know what they are doing now other than thinking their customers are stupid.
@@captainsebt Can't really compare a $20 and $40 pack. If you try, Supernaturals has way more than two times the content of Vampires, ex simsvip.com/sims-3-supernatural-guide/. TS4 vampires is like 12% of the $20 pack while TS3 vampires are like 5% of the $40 pack.
This is the most pointless stuff pack EA has released yet. This is a clothing/decorations pack with extra steps. Honestly could have been a free update to the base game. Reminds me of swimming pools. But hey, new chairs.
This is what the community voted for. Say the game is boring but when they ask what the community wants the majority voted for knitting.. not very exciting.
This is why I am sticking with The Sims 3, yes it's old but it feels like they put more thought into that game. The Sims franchise feels like it's dying like Sim City.
"But in my eyes, this is nothing more than another forgettable add-on to an increasingly forgettable game that has far outstayed its welcome", DAMN. I can't disagree with you though, just haven't heard anyone word the state of TS4 so directly, caught me off guard 😆
The silver lining in EA's bland DLC is LGR's reviews. But imagine a world where EA releases amazing Sims content and we get an amazing LGR review. If only it was more than a dream.
He was also really positive in his Sims 3 Late Night review, with his consensus being that it was the first necessary pack for the Sims 3. The only packs for The Sims 4 that came close to a “necessary” praise was Seasons and Get Together, and he seems to praise the game packs. When they’re done beating the long dead horse that is The Sims 4, I hope they get rid of stuff packs, and focus on optimizing game packs because game packs are trying too much while expansions aren’t trying at all. It’s sad, because as a whole I really do like The Sims 4, but the constant nickel and diming of its fan base and wasting a game with so much potential is disappointing.
Just to let you know, the modding community have been working on making the objects that didn't get chosen in the voting rounds, so there'll be a lot more to pick from.
Remember when Clint loved the Sims? Objective & had somethings he didn't care for but essentially a fan. They have broken him. Let's hope Sims 5 (if it ever happens now) brings your enthusiasm back fella. 🤔
If this was in Sims 3 it would've been a part of an EP with a town and actual content If this was in Sims 2 it'd have been a small chunk of a stuff pack
If this was in Sims 3, it would've been a Sims 3 Store item available online for some ludicrously large number of SimPoint funbucks (and it'd be anyone's guess how many actual dollars it would cost you). Actually, the knitting equipment would probably only be available as a part of whole venue, like the glass-crafting one they did or the tea-drinking one. Point is, they've been doing these kinds of low-effort, low-content releases for longer than The Sims 4 has been around, it's just that you'd only notice it if you went to their website and looked. The only new thing about it is that now everything they do is front-and-center in the game menu and gets a trailer. The rest of it -- the price, the absurdly limited scope, the nagging question of "who is this FOR?", well, none of that is new at all.
@Ynouva Sure, but that was The Sims 2. My point is, this has been going on since *The Sims 3*, and the only difference between the Sims 3 Store collections and a Sims 4 Stuff Pack is that the latter gets marketed openly and has a price in actual money ($10, in the US) while the former was easily missed (if you did what everyone did and blocked all internet stuff from TS3) and had a confusing company-store cash-for-SimPoints exchange rate to wrangle with. Other than that, it's the same thing: a feeble smattering of items, maybe one ridiculously narrow and baffling "gameplay" feature that nobody really asked for and which dead-ends almost immediately. Really, it's how bad the Expansion Packs have gotten that makes me angry. I can ignore a Stuff Pack as easily as I ignored the Sims 3 Store, but there's no way to ignore the fact that a Sims 4 EP has maybe (if we're being absurdly generous) a third of the content that a Sims 3 Expansion did. And yeah, it all runs better and it's mostly integrated into the main game in ways that TS3 just couldn't handle, but good lord, how can they charge 40 bucks for THAT? (yeah, I know, it's because they run half-price sales on EPs every five or six weeks to keep their sales figures up for the EA mothership, but still!)
I'm so mad at how Sims has gone, but once I found out EA had bought out Maxis, it made a lot of sense. EA seems to be the place decent/good games go to die. If Sims 5 comes out, I'm not even touching it because I have a feeling it's going to be some type of online thing with micro-transactions.
Sims 2 had a pack called Freetime, it added a ton of new hobbies, ballet, fixing up cars, pottery, sewing, and more. It had a new system that would increase your points in different interests like sci-fi that would increase if you read books or magazines about it, watched TV, went to club meetings, or did the hobby itself and it opened up new dialogue and other options. It also added a feature that you'd get "in the zone" sometimes when working on your hobby. Google it, you'll be surprised just how much is in there.
The distinction between knitting and crochet is much appreciated by this practitioner of both! I'm starting to feel sorry that this is what the Sims has become - and that's as an outsider. I wanted to play it when I was younger but could never afford a copy. I played some at a friend's house once, either 2 or 3 but I'm not sure, and I had a lot of fun! But these expansions seem like instead of adding more depth, they're just adding extra surface area. It's like diving into what used to be a big swimming pool of content, but just cracking your head on the floor of a paddling pool.
I think through one or the other bundle I ended up with the sims 3, but I never played it., I had a ton of fun with the original which I got as 'the complete collection' But it speaks volumes about the series as a whole that even that first game, the complete collection is accurate because there wasn't anything released after it... But it has the base game plus like 8 expansions. 8! So right off the bat this game series was DLC bait. But the expansions from back then seemed a little more meaty than these 'stuff packs'... Let me think... What was it again? Probably messing up half the names, but whatever. - Base game. - House Party - Pets - Holiday - First date - Makin magic - Celebrity... Eh. Too many. And what has happened to the sequels? It's even worse, of course... XD Yeah, I never did feel inclined to bother with the sequels...
the only solution to the sims series is firing every single person responsible for taking these decisions (lead designers, game directors, etc), it's absolutely disgusting what they are doing
@@liquidmodernitytasteslikeu2855 I have a feeling it is more an EA money thing than a developer thing. Sims 3 was not nearly as bad if I recall. This feels like EA milking a cow to death.
i reaaally wish they'd made it an arts & crafts/hobbies gamepack or even expansion ala the sims 2 freetime; freetime added so much for sims to do & really enriched the gameplay. as someone who plays with families a lot, i feel like we need more diverse hobbies for our sims to partake in. i know it's been said many times before, but the sims 4 really is a millennial simulator, & as a millennial myself i'm tired of it.
I kinda want more of the crazy and wacky aspecs in the game. My favorite packs are realm of magic, island living, cats and dogs and vampires for that reason. The reason this game stood out from the crowd initially was because of that, and now, you're right, it basically is millennial simulator, and it doesn't even seem like it covers the entire millenial aesthetic, it just covers the boho one, and it's frustrating.
@@thenerdybunny1296 bought Island Living on sale a few days ago and the island just feels tiny I remember the Island from Sims 3 it was huge and there was a lot to do and even more space (sure my Lara croft wannabe that lived on one of them ship lots spent 90% of my playtime Parked over one of the swimming spots) on that island. ignoring time spend in China/Egypt and France Tomb Raiding for money. in fact The First Map you got in the sims 3 sort of didn´t get expended when the news DLC got released resulting in a lot of services not having a space to exist on. that if you didn´t take the time to build it yourself (something I couldn´t do been a terrible architecture and inertial designer). resulting in I believe the older maps getting less and less used for play.
TheNerdyBunny yes!! i adore the wacky supernatural stuff, my current family are all occult sims, but even my favourite ts4 packs are majorly lacking compared to their previous ts1/2/3 counterparts & it's so disheartening
That pack(Freetime) also included sewing funnily enough, which allowed you to sew unique items and clothing (similar to knitting). Granted the sewing didn’t grant the same amount of unique items as this pack does, but the sewing in Sims 2 was a small feature in a bigger expansion pack. I’m kinda sensing a theme here, since they also did this kind of thing with bowling and laundry. Basically take a small feature that used to be a small part of a bigger expansion pack in previous games, and then make it a stuff pack and sell it for 10 bucks.
Hear me out: a larger Hobbies-type expac (maybe game pack but preferably expac), of which whittling is a small part. Other hobbies could include baseball, rugby, soccer/footie, ballet dancing, tango, 3D animation/game development, 3D printing, sewing, fashion designing, others. This would come with a slew of new personality traits for our Sims, and be paired with a base-game update overhaul to current traits to make them actually impact gameplay. Haha, who am I kidding? This isn't The Sims 3 anymore. I firmly believe that the gurus are doing their best (most of the time; I'll admit that this pack in particular was underwhelming) but generally their corporate overlords give them very little leeway.
Lmao I was literally just thinking this. It's not even worth the time. Whatever cute build mode items I like from this, I can find it with better swatches and patterns from a cc creator
I mean what's the point of it now anyway? My computer is pretty shit so I have to think's about every new thing I install. Also, Ea continues to give us the most frustrating crap and I can't believe people still buy these ridiculous packs.
Does it say a lot that LGR saying this is the 137th's stuff pack didn't even make me question it? I just accepted "Yeah...that sounds accurate at this point."
I went cold turkey with additional Sims 4 content in 2019. It's just... it's just embarassing how they're stretching this game's lifespan by now. I still play it, don't get me wrong, but I'm not buying new content for it. I've got the essentials and then some - I'm a happy camper.
I couldn't agree more. The whole stuff pack wasn't my cup of tea, didn't see the appeal. I kind of laughed when the metal radio appeared, because I didn't expect it to be there. But now it is there, I kinda want it. But not the stuff pack. The metal station, combined with some retro 80s and 90s grunge/goth clothing, that would be much better than the knitting. Kind of a Bon Jovi/Twisted Sister kind of stuff pack. Now that's a stuff pack worth the money. But I guess I just either add the music in the playlist myself, or just play Spotify instead. Doesn't feel the same though.
I'd rather they re-release Sims 2 and 3, so I can play those. I don't even care about Sims going forward. I see other simulation games coming out, like Paralives, and I'm waiting on those, now.
@@BooDotBoo I hope the creators of Cities Skylines (who actually killed SimCity for EA) create a life simulator and kill the Sims or at least make EA sweat profusely. CS is a 5+ year old game at the time of this post and it's still a great one minus the fact it's not "optimized" for budget systems. I am interested in seeing where Paralives goes but I've found some issues (with the fan community and the dev team) that make me continue praying Paradox Interactive/Colossal Order gets into the life simulator business. 7/31/20 11:42p
Instead of ridiculous stuff packs like this, we need an extension for “Get to Work.” I love the idea of being able to play as a cop, Scientist or doctor...it’s my favorite expansion to date. but what about as an Athlete, fireman or criminal? Add burglars back into the game! This stuff pack could have easily been a monthly update, not a $10 money grab
I've learned many Sims fans are not your regular pc gamers. They are like obsessed funko pop collectors with a dollhouse. Ofc everyone has the right to play a game in whichever way they like but I do think some players' completionism and blind loyalty have been indirectly hurting the franchise.
Imagine how they must have felt when they heard about the pack and before watching any reviews of the pack, went and purchased and downloaded it the moment it came out, opened their game, went into CAS and selected the “Nifty Knitting” filter, and found out that almost every item was locked.
Personally I don’t play the game for months start playing, get bored very quickly and for some stupid reason think the next pack will make all the difference to the game. I buy it, play for a few hours, get bored, stop playing for months. Repeat 😭
Watching this just makes me can't wait longer for Paralives. At least if it's not as "polished" as EA's Sims, this indie developer care about their project.
Eh, I've got Animal Crossing now. Oh, and by the way, while it cost $60, at least the monthly updates have been free... I haven't bought anything new since City Living, and even that game disappointed me.
Animal crossing is at least a complete game. Players paid $500 for sims and the game still lacks depth and feels like an incomplete game. I play mmo’s which rely on cash shops or expansion packs similar to sims 4 and those games don’t feel so barebones.
Everytime something gets released for Sims 4 it just shows how far we haven't come from Sims 3 or even Sims 2. I'm glad I still have The Sims 2 discs still for whenever I feel like playing The Sims.
@@purplevoncreep9920 I never said Sims 3 was good. Personally I'll only play Sims 1 & 2 if I want sims. I just said Sims 4 really hasn't progressed as a game compared to the previous installments
Purple Voncreep True, but at least their expansion packs had a lot of effort in them. Some had so much in it that it broke the game (ie. Island living)
Is it weird when I say that I still enjoy the over 10 years old and still buggy as heck Sims 3 way more than Sims 4? One of the biggest reasons besides customization and open world is that I don't need that crappy Steam rip-off Origin to run at the background to play it.
What I can’t stand the most is that EA can’t be bothered to deal with exchange rates from US$ so as someone in the UK they charge us £10 which is the equivalent of around $13.50 WHO IN THE HELL PAYS $13.50 ON KNITTING I COULD PICK UP A ACTUAL KNITTING HOBBY FOR THAT PRICE
If it's gonna make you feel better, in Turkey a stuff pack costs around 60-100 lira (the base game is around 130 lira). For comparison, a bottle of water is 1 lira by the way. I actually knit as a hobby and I can buy good quality yarn for like 5-6 lira.
It gets worse, in UKRAINE EA more than doubled prices overnight and now they are ~10% higher than in US. You know, our average salary is 10 times LESS, and on Origin, we get redirected to their store in RUSSIA which we are _literally at war against,_ (we sanction their companies and block IPs from there, it's the LAST country you want Ukrainians to be redirected to), with ROUBLES as currency, which are as popular here as Deutschmarks in 1944 USA. As in, we don't have them. At all. And no, russia isn't even closest country to us, Moscow is as far away as Paris with most EU like Poland or Czech Republic being closer. The only country with prices even higher than Ukrainian is the UK, yeah.
Right? Knitting isn’t a “metal” activity. I kind of feel like they added the metal radio station with this pack as a joke and also so they could say: “stop asking for this station, here you go.” Like if you are going to add a radio station with a pack at least have it be a pack where it makes some kind of sense.
@@Gameoverstudios I get that it's a reference to "Heavy Metal Knitting", but as someone who wants a Metal station in the game and has no interest in knitting, it's just fucking annoying.
Nostalgia could speak about quality tho, just wait for a decade and assuming there's TS 5 or Paralives, would people reminiscing TS 4 as we did to TS 2 & 3.
Moch. Faris Dzulfiqar it’s a generational thing tbh people’s whose first sims game wasn’t sims 3 probably wouldn’t enjoy it as much. The no multi tasking hurts me sometimes now that I’ve been babied with sims 4 multi tasking
If we count each of the Sims 3 worlds and collections as separate packs, or if the total cost of the store is added to the price of the game, it will still win (well over $5,000).
Can’t believe this is what was voted to be made. And the number of people I have seen excited and defending this and the price point in various sim groups is astounding .
the community has been conditioned into this. they dont question lack of seasons, apartments, pets in base game, so many packs could be merged together and still not worth the price. this is like if minecraft had a base game with the content of the 1.0 update but every other update contentwise would be paid dlc. want dolphins and fish? gotta pay. want coloured glass? gotta pay. people would be rightfully outraged. but here they are not. because it goes way back. in the sims 1 there were dlc packs. this was because of the limitations of its time; you simply couldnt squeeze that much content into one disc and expect it to be possible and affordable. sims 2 was the same. the base game was as big as it could be with some packs to give what wasnt there. sims 3 is where they tested the waters by removing some details and making more packs, but still making the game a full experience. here we have a 2014 life sim game with no base game weather where you should be able to own a dog or a cat in the base game and that pet should be able to play in muddy puddles during fall also in the base game. this is embarrassing. but because EA and the sims series are so big people will suck it up. free content creators will do more because they care about the game while EA cares about doing none of the work and gaining all the money. i seriously cant wait for paralives to come out so theres some competition
They are the people who, even if EA just gave us poop in a box for a new stuff pack, they'd think it was amazing and think we are all just ungrateful cretins. I don't take this community as seriously as I once did. It's become a Stan community and that's never good.
@@waifu_png_pl6854 It's not that we don't question it. It's just that it doesn't matter in the end. New games will overtake their crown and soon. Kind of like Cities did. But then Paradox decided to EAify Cities Skylines so in the end greed will always win.
waifu_png_pl Hmm maybe....they just like the stuff they’re getting. Also at the end of the day, no one is forcing them to pay for this stuff. Finally, one man’s trash is another man’s treasure. This type of stuff that you hate has traction because people are willing to buy this stuff. It really sucks when you can’t say “I got my money’s worth!” without people saying they’re being brainwashed. It’s ok to not like the dlc but don’t trash people’s opinions on it. If they’re fine and happy with what they got, what’s the harm?
I really trust LGR's reviews about the Sims, I've been watching since sims 3 days. I also love that EA used to send him the packs but then stopped bc he's actually honest about saying they suck lol
I'm convinced Sims 5 will be online and have mirco-transactions. I don't put it pass them with how Sims 4 is going... and the fact that so many newer simmers are throwing money at them for barely anything.
You joke, but EA has already been floating the possibility of Sims 5 requiring you to be connected to the internet and forcing interaction with other players. Because they didn't learn anything from the SimCity 5 debacle.
This has no reason being a stand alone pack lmao (expect for money of course, because EA) It should've either just been a free update OR a small slice of a huge "hobbies" expansion. (Even then I'd argue that stuff like hobbies in a LIFE SIM game should just largely be a part of the main game)
I also wish that this was finally a pack that would show older sims some love. I don't mean to say young sims can't like knitting (I know more knitters my age than older folks), but damn it! Give Grandmas something to do in the sims!
So... once again we could've got pottery with this. Some other crafting hobbies and an overhaul to woodworking. I voted in this but did not vote for knitting. Knitting was bottom of the list for me, but it was like, w/e... maybe we will get more things for elders. However, when we tried to push for Elders the "KnITTING iS fOrR eVERBoDy" crowd VOTED against it. Like this is ridiculous. The community even offered suggestions for more minor activities to include in this. All we got is grandma daydreaming about a childhood that's not currently possible in game and whatever this is. I've seen people report the skill leveled insanely quick within a 24 hrs of play. They say they're done with "old packs" but we could've just had the GP instead of this.
I been said this was stupid. Y’all said more gameplay for elders and that’s why ppl said knitting but then knitting was for everybody so once again, no elder gameplay. Firstly elders don’t even do much but more gameplay would be canes and walkers, retirement plans, wills, senior center places, getting sick (new illness system) but no- knitting for everyone lol
Hopefully the GP they working on is way more worth buying than this reject pack, the laundry pack was a better idea than this one and even that one I wasn't 100% approval of because it should have been an Eco stuff pack and we ended up with laundry instead, still haven't bought the laundry pack because of the bugs that haven't been fixed in that pack just yet.
@@stuartvandermerwe8548 I've seen the leaks. We're likely getting a ST*R W*RS game pack. I have no hope for this shit since it's more than likely true. I haven't updated since EL came out (I do not own EL). The EL launch day patch is worse than the stuff pack that came out two years ago...
Nobody. EA is known for constantly narrowing the scope of packs as people vote for them. People only voted for knitting as opposed to the other half assed options because it was at least still a shadow of what they voted for: Arts n crafts
community voted packs simply don’t work in my opinion, i think it would be very interesting to see the breakdown of the actual results. what percentage of the community actually voted for this? the number could easily be under 50% so long as it had the highest number, so theres a very high chance the majority of the community DIDN’T vote for knitting
Stuff Packs are no longer stuff packs, they’re the equivalent of Sims 3 plethora of micro transactions that are callled packs to make them sound more necessary than they actually are. I got pretty much all of my stuff packs on sale and for 6 or 7 of them I didn’t even bother to get even on sale.
Now prepare to cough up $10 to crochet things... called "Cool Crochets" And if you give up the $20 total you can knit and crochet unique projects together that you can't get if you don't have both packs
Are you ready for when EA decides to create "The Sims 5" and literally remove every single piece of content to turn it into DLC? It's kinda odd. A new game in "The Sims" franchise always has less content than its predecessor. And during its lifetime, it never gets as much content as the previous one, or gets way too boring and lacking stuff for a long period of time. Just waiting for a game that does to The Sims what Cities Skylines did to SimCity: force them to start innovating and taking the developers off their comfort zones.
If anything, Cities Skylines turned out worse than Sim City; Paradox aren't much worse than EA when it comes to their DLCs (hell, they pretty much have stuff packs in CS now). At least Sim City 2013 only had one DLC.
@@maxperrins8878, one horrible DLC, by the way. Also, you don't need DLC in Cities Skylines. Are you really saying that Paradox is WORSE AS EA? Mod support, huge maps, single-player only, optional DLCs that aren't required for the base game, better performance. Oh well, I guess they really are worse than EA.
Since when did I say they're worse than EA? They're nowhere NEAR as bad as them, but still the C:S IP isn't in very good hands. Also since when are C:S' DLCs optional but TS4's aren't?
Or worse, they might make it into an online cash grab and you need to pull packs for clothings and furnitures. Honestly at this point I'm ready to see the Sims die. One day another life simulation will rise.
Honestly, every stuff pack The Sims have made could have been apart of an expansion or game pack. (For example ice cream maker, popcorn machine, laundry machines, and water slides could have gone in parenthood instead of three stuff packs. This one could have gone into ecoliving)
"This is nothing more than another forgettable add-on to an *increasingly forgettable game that has far outstayed its welcome* " Damn, LGR did not hold back this time.
If they wanted to keep being money grubbing, they could have made an Elderly Sims stuff pack. They could have included knitting, but also made retirement homes or adult community center lots a thing. Put things like shuffle board or bridge, added options like "send money to grandkids" on the phone or other older adult interactions. Very low effort moves that would satisfy players and make the game better but nope, too easy, EA has to keep choosing the worst possible option when it comes to content.
cuteycuteylala oh yeah, that’s a good idea. They could have made a teen pack too. I think an Elders pack would have went over well. That could been a game pack. We get one or 2 good things per pack and that’s not enough.
Oh I can’t wait to see his reaction to this new Star War pack they had the audacity to put out! If he even reviews it that is. We know LGR is a real honest gamer who isn’t on EA’s payroll. So if he doesn’t review it because he doesn’t want to waste his hard earned money I won’t fault him.
"nothing more than another forgettable addon to an increasingly forgettable game that has far outstayed it's welcome" THANK YOU. lilshillsie and shilligracy are shaking in their licked-clean boots.
I've noticed I've stopped following a lot of the Simmers I used to watch when they became game changers; they act like these packs are amazing, when they aren't. They may make a video about how Sims could be better, but it's usually still excusing EA and making a case for shitty packs and a bad base game. I mean, they cheered for firefighters, like that was something actually new.
@@BooDotBoo I was never able to get into Simmers post TS3 for that reason. They would praise and overhype every. single. thing. in that trademark "UA-camr voice", and I just felt like a lot of them were/are enabling EA for free copies of the game or whatever other perks they may get for being recognized in some form by EA's marketing department. I remember when it seemed like EA/the Sim Gurus were trying to "buy off" LGR by giving him free access codes for a while. Like they wanted him to change his tune. When that didn't work they stopped. I'm sure it's worked with other Simmers though. And now EA has some reality TV show planned based off of Simmers competing for shit in real life. 8/1/20 12:04p
I love to watch Simsie’s build videos, they always inspire me and I sort of like her personality. Unfortunately, the vibes of her content have definitely changed since she became a game changer. It’s a shame what getting free stuff does to a person... Still better than Deligracy. I just get the vibe that she’s faking every bit of it.
It's so incredibly 'meh'. I mean WHY? Hard to believe they are still doing this. We should have had Sims 5 long ago. This is just like throwing glitter at poop & hoping people don't notice. In fact call it "Glitter-Poop Stuff" & have done it with it! 😉
100% agree. Sims 4 started out as trash and still is cuz you can't polish a turd. With that I mean is you can't make a game better with x amounts of add-ons if the base game is still crap!
To those asking about reviewing the Star Wars pack...
twitter.com/lazygamereviews/status/1303336772311691266
While disappointing, that's very understandable. I've honestly been wondering how much longer you would hold out on Sims 4 since the My First Pet Stuff pack. No quarrel from me, that's for sure.
As much as I enjoy you saying it sucks, that also means you would have to play it, so I can understand.
I'm sure Ralph appreciates it.
Thank goodness I can afford it to see if its good myself.
Glad I found this comment. Went to check community first to see if you posted something then decided to see if was a comment in last sims video.
In the old days this would have been an extremely small part of a hobbies expansion pack.
Exactly! This is why stuff packs are so dull to me.
But doing that doesn’t give papa EA more money
In the old days we had stuff packs..... sims 2 had small stuff packs.....
This is why I don’t buy too many stuff packs any more.
It was - sewing/clothes making was a tiny part of the Sims 2 freetime expansion! It even let you make your own custom clothes, teddy bears, quilts, potholders, curtains...
Why they didn't create an "Arts and Crafts" or "DIY" game pack is beyond me.
So they can sell people the "Crafty Crochet" and "Puttering Pottery" packs down the line, of course.
This would be so cool, principally seeing how DIYs and crafts are pretty popular nowadays
Yeah including flipping furniture or woodworking! Like diy your bureau or fireplace etc
@@gustavgurke9665 yeah it's not really explored and what you name is pretty basic even as you max ot the skill. As someone who loves woodworking it's like it's not even there.
Because it would require effort.
i know that people are saying “well the community voted for this pack!” but we kinda....didn’t? the way voting works is very manipulative. they start out with a broad idea than narrow it down so much that it’s stupid. i voted for arts and crafts in the beginning because I thought that it would be all about all aspects of arts and crafts. then the sims devs whittled it down so much that it just became knitting. the way that the sims team does the voting is so frustrating because you think you’re gonna get more out of something than what they actually give you.
Thats EA for ya. They really dont give a crap
I agree 100% with this.
Well I was against arts and crafts 😂
More garbage to make the even more boring than it already is
It did say from the start that it would only be one small idea from the theme and not every single thing. You're not the only one who misunderstood, but they weren't lying
I wonder how "arts and craft" turned into *only* knitting.
Because the voting is rigged
ItsMeZozo no people voted for it
@@ethenthevulpix8517 yeah, but we voted for a wide variety of arts and crafts. NOT JUST KNITTING.
Good Question i am wondering that as well. Arts & Crafting can be also sculpting. I would have loved if this DC was mostly art focused only.
@@thegamingwolf8755 Yeah, It could have been everything from sculpting to quilting to knitting to macrame (haha). When I voted for "Arts and Crafts" I didn't know that meant "Just knitting, nothing else".
The argument of people voting for it - the answer is yes but no, not really.
Modders work harder than EA.
Oh, way harder. And they're so talented! I have mod bug fixes, because EA won't fix the game
If this was all the content of a knitting mod (aka something you can get for free, which someone with passion made in their free time), it'd be super impressive and cool. But as the product of a whole ass company?! EA. You can do better. We KNOW you can. Stop bullshitting us.
Whims?
Modders won’t even make these kinds of mod because they would be busy completing other features that EA leave out so they can pile the game up with frivolous stuffs that don’t add to gameplay.
The modders are fantastic and the game is unplayable without them.
This honestly should have been a part of Eco Lifestyle. Making your own clothes AND furniture? Definitely would have made E.L. more enjoyable in my opinion
Should of just expanded the woodworking table and added knitting. The replicator, or whatever it's called, feels so clunky and out of place, like something out of the science career from Get to Work.
Honestly Laundry Day, Eco Lifestyle, and Knifty Knitting could've all been one pack. Not to mention the "saving the environment" feature is already apart of Island Living.
@@dancy217 wait, it is? i never noticed. the gameplay is so lacking
@@waifu_png_pl6854 Yep! You can have a career in saving the environment on the island. It doesn't affect the rest of the world tho. It's VERY similar to Eco Living, so much so that I question why they made that pack in the first place.
I'm glad it's not- I'll probably get this at some point, but am never getting Eco Lifestyle. A way to make my neighbors even more identical and a system that only really works if you go and edit everyone's houses in build mode? Yay what fun
At this point - they could literally recycle old sims 2 and 3 packs but with better graphics and I'll be satisfied. So disappointed that they tainted the reputation of this game that was once so loved.
There’s few things in life that I want more than remastered sims 2 and/or 3 games.
BadDriversOf Georgia how do you get the game though?? through the oldgames site or something? cause i can’t find anywhere to buy it :c
@@daimhinaubrey3194 exactly I want sims 2 I luv sims 3
@@daimhinaubrey3194 RetroGames site. Instructions are on that website and on youtube. I installed The Sims 2 in march and it's working great (I have a non gaming laptop).
Thumbellina J. awww thanks! i’ve tried installing sims makin magic and it ALMOST WORKED after me battling my laptop for 6+ hours. but in the end, it didn’t :c
haven’t tried sims2 but hopefully it actually does work. i feel like i’m cursed bc nothing ever works correctly for me even though it does for literally everyone else 🤣
Despite the fact that this was community voted, it *still* feels like they're running out of ideas.
or the devs arent being paid for their time to fix what's already there, EA is trying to squeeze stuff out without paying the money for the content creators to make it even good :/ I dont blame the devs, I blame whoever's funding them.
Otaking Mikohani yeah they still haven’t thought about bringing cars!!!
Another example that Democracy doesn't equal good by default. If leaders don't offer you good choices to vote between, letting people vote doesn't really matter.
@@irishgiant5150 Vote with your wallets FFS -- EA can get away with all this because who else is offering the same type of product? Maybe Second Life? Honestly I don't know, never played it. But we need someone to make a life sim game with a different formula but the same ideas. Unfortunately nobody seems to think there's enough in that pie for them to go against EA.
Sad thing is there’s so much they could add that wouldn’t have that vibe. And as LGR notes, their packs have a NARROW focus, which especially reinforces the idea that pack ideas are narrow
I am offended at the lack of scarfs, mittens, pot holders, variety of hats, and crazy outfits for pets.
Or random 'mishaps' when your knitting level is low and you screw up.
You are very beautiful
They can't add stuff for pets lmao. Most people don't have cats and dogs so what's the point
@@INeedYouToBreathe The sort of completionist who will buy this most likely has Cats & Dogs
@@andrewcyes2049 oh yes because people took my first pet stuff which is a dlc for dlc very well. People loved it so much
This feels like it should be a free patch...
Yeah 10$ dollars for a stuff pack that barely contains alot of things. Really? And I don't even play the sims 4, but this is disappointing. Look at sims 1, 2, and 3, there are so many objects, including cars. But in the sims 4, there's hardly anything unless you use mods and there no cars to drive. It sucks tbh.
Or part of an existing pack, like parenthood or something
@@TK-qi5nz We don't even have bunk beds yet. EA gets more greedy each pack.
This feels like you’re getting greedy
@@TK-qi5nz and cars are nothing but an animation and waste of time.
if they had even just made this an overall stitching pack, with knitting, crocheting, embroidering, and sewing, i would’ve been happier! but JUST knitting?? ridiculous
Yup. all that other stuff will be $10 for each variant. LOL
Yeah. I think he was a little harsh ( to be clear I think Nifty Knitting is way too shallow for $10, but calling it the most pointless add on yet is too much when there are packs like My First Pet Stuff and Laundry Day), but my issue with Nifty Knitting is the implication that if just that one aspect was $10, than the other 4 aspects that were up for the vote would’ve been worth an expansion or more, which is ridiculous. The Sims 2 Free Time gave you 10 hobbies of which a completely fleshed out Arts and Crafts was one, along with 6 new careers, and for $30.
LITERALLY. They already have decorative cross stitch and a decorative weaving loom etc in the buy mode stuff. I LOVE knitting but this isn't even in depth enough with it to feel worth it for me. Most of the knitted objects look like they were sewed or crocheted anyway
That would have been a Game Pack, and the community pretty clearly voted on a Stuff Pack.
Brody Butler That’s the part I don’t get. They literally make a pack solely for knitting that doesn’t even really show knitted objects. The laziness is astounding to me.
When I saw a picture of it a few days ago I thought it was prank. It had to be! Nifty knittting, seriously? What comes next? Miraculous mowing? Exciting exfoliating? Something about the fun of tax declaration?
Stop giving them ideas! XD
😂😂😂😂
EA reads comments: Interesting... _takes notes_
😂😂😂😂😂💀😂😂😂😂😂
The community has so far voted for laundry and knitting, so I am guessing they would be on board for those. I wanted the haunted stuff pack, seances and the such... but nope the people have spoken and they want dull reality.
Also, at the end of every Sims 4 survey, there is a disclosure that EA has the right to choose a theme completely different from what you voted for.
P.S - Knitting animation was already in Discover University :o
Elisse Williams yup. It’s literally EA’s way of saying “we rig these survey results to our own likings”.
well damn. if that's the case we have no idea of our votes mean anything. Maybe Happy Haunts actually won, who knows.
That’s why I’ve been saying I wanna see the numbers
In what context did the animation exist in Discover University?
@@limiv5272 When you try to yarnbomb school statue.
I like how the channel “Lazy Game Reviews” puts in the most effort into his reviews compared to some other sims channels.
still upset this won over ghost hunting
IKR WTF -_-
Let's just accept that EA would fuck that one up too, so no regrets.
@A real bisexual petrol-head damn boi your hatred is intense. But seriously tho. I hope there is another decent and better life simulator that can bury the sims.
@A real bisexual petrol-head yeah, I use to have a trashy Toshiba laptop. It was so slow and couldn't handle my sims 3. Neither could any of my HP laptops. The Sims 4 definitely did run alot better on laptops, but I upgraded to a gaming PC. It's a Ryzen 7 and runs greatly. It's like heaven to play the Sims 3 now and ofc the Sims 4. But Sims 4 is damn right boring, Sims 3 over Sims 4 anyday. I'm just hoping if they do release a Sims 5 that it will be just like the Sims 3 but with better graphics and more interactions with other Sims like in the Sims 4. Because the expansion packs and everything in Sims 3 had alot more stuff in it. But I feel like with other Sims there's more interactions. I'd for sure buy the Sims 5 if it has the open world, more stuff and everything in the expansion packs and make it so we can actually play as our pets in it but with the Sims 4 graphics, human interactions and build mode. That shit would be great.
The community is corrupted by knitting 😨
LGR always spins a good yarn.
Even if knitpicky, I try.
LGR I’ll say this, your puns always leave me in stitches.
He was yarning for this pack.
Sew, how's life threading you right now? 😂
Really threading the needle with this joke.
I wonder if they named "Plopsy" after the sound they heard when the crapped this pack out.
OMFG XD
Good one
The derision in your voice really suits the subject matter. Well done, Sir!
Thanks! It's a derisive tone that comes from a place of heartfelt derision.
@@LGR GRIN!!
"Yeah, yeah,yeah" was my favorite part. The commentary about the rocking chairs.
When he said "None interactive" I was instantly sold, none interactive objects are an instant seller and I'm glad EA knows what the fans want
I don’t think I can live without my non interactive objects
I just love looking at them! It's so much fun, what else could anyone want from a game?
Counting the days until Paralives comes out and we get a life simulator that doesn't have the soul sucked out of it.
Hopefully Paradox will publish Paralives as they are the real executioner of EA.
Paralives gets cooler with each dev update, I swear. Did you see those frame customisation options? It seems minor but that level of object depth is very, very exciting.
@@Personano133 That's not exciting.
@@DrakorthaProductions It is if you like building things.
@@hoangtannguyenvu4682 it really won’t 💀
Why knitting? We wanted a SEWING pack with a designer career. The ability to design and customize new clothes in game. This was such a lazy approach
i mean with how little content there is you could have both and it still would be worth 10 bucks. theyre so lazy and i hate that it works because one day i know i will buy this pack
With the antique Singer sewing machine (from around the 1920's) would've been a nice touch to the SEWING pack!
The entire game is a lazy approach
They really could have taken this so far with sewing but fell short. As per usual
The sims team being lazy is honestly a sims 4 cliché at this point tbh
It took 6 years to put clothes on a baby omg
edit: It would be better if they are in a rock same way like in 2-3
And they’re still objects🤷🏼♀️
Nada Talia was JUST gonna say that lol, i hate the babies in sims 4, at least the sims 3 burrito babies were actual SIMS!!
Why can’t we rock the baby in the rocking chair?
xander thats why i play most likely sims 3, i have played that since 2013
6 years. That's the longest there's been a Sims game without a sequel. When is EA going to stop milking it?
If it makes you feel better, I don't even own Sims4. I just watch to see what fasion trends Duke Nukem is following each week
You are not alone.
i don't understand how there are people who don't own the sims 4
they've literally given it away for free lol
c A quick google search states otherwise, but ok. I have other games I rather use my money on and frankly EA can go fuck itself with all its bullshit.
c I don’t have the Sims 4 because I will never give them money. Even if they released SimCity 6 (which they won’t), and it was actually good (which it won’t be) I would rather get Cities: Skylines 2. C:S is an affordable game with (mostly) good DLCs. EA is such a horrible company, and if people stopped buying overpriced DLCs, either EA will lower the price, or EA will lose too much money.
I got Sims 4 for free, barely play it, and am still disappointed in it, so that tells you a lot.
I love sims, yet even with all the free time I have due to quarantine I haven’t played in weeks. So dry and boring. No opportunity for story making and no personalization. Just drab
no sims 5 yet? at this point id be ok with a graphic overhaul of the sims 3.
FACTS
right? just give us better access to sims 3, fix the "bug" with the final patch of the game that destroys CC compatibility, and overhaul the graphics and create-a-sim to be like sims 4 and we wont even NEED a sims 5.
Jude Gestalt Also the Build/Buy mode from Sims 4, as well as some minor game improvements like the multitasking and places being busier. People have far more powerful hardware now, so there’s no excuse for not going back to the open world and customisation of Sims 3.
why make a sims 5 when you can keep pumping out no effort packs for sims 4?
i hope sims 4 is the last game cause we all know sims 5 would be even more of a bland cash grab
As soon as the stuff pack was released, the main thing I was exited about was the video LGR was going to make about it. The review is worth more than the stuff pack, and the video also provided more enjoyment the knitting would've given me.
And the rocking chairs are fugly
The sims is now Critic fodder
Remember the days when something like this would have been a minor aspect of a massive expansion in Sims 3? I have no idea how EA gets away with this. Anyway, great video as always LGR.
Sadly a majority of fans on FB and twitter do defend EA on these kind of contents. They thought all the 'haters' simply hate knitting and should just stay silent while we really don't care about it if knitting was part of a bigger game pack / expansion.
Try having constructive criticism on them and they still stubbornly say, "Well, I get what you say but I still love the pack."
Sims 2 freetime had this exact functionality (except it was sewing instead of knitting ) and it was a tiny aspect of that huge expansion pack
@@dodixaverius9176 And they more than likely never played TS3 (or any other Sims game), or were TS2 diehards who hated TS3 for whatever reason.
I actually think the way they did packs in the start was better.
When they added vampires they actually got focused on so they weren't like given just a few abilities they felt like an actual game feature
In sims 3 supernatural none of the supernaturals felt done.
But their content ever since their island paradise clone has completely lacked all sense of the first dlcs they released. I don't know what they are doing now other than thinking their customers are stupid.
@@captainsebt Can't really compare a $20 and $40 pack. If you try, Supernaturals has way more than two times the content of Vampires, ex simsvip.com/sims-3-supernatural-guide/. TS4 vampires is like 12% of the $20 pack while TS3 vampires are like 5% of the $40 pack.
This is the most pointless stuff pack EA has released yet. This is a clothing/decorations pack with extra steps. Honestly could have been a free update to the base game. Reminds me of swimming pools.
But hey, new chairs.
They want stuff they want but vote for knitting pack wow
new chairs AND Yarny.
This is what the community voted for. Say the game is boring but when they ask what the community wants the majority voted for knitting.. not very exciting.
OMG NEW CHAIRS?
@@dv7605 then complain about the glitches and babies but continue to vote for pointless moddable stuff.
This is why I am sticking with The Sims 3, yes it's old but it feels like they put more thought into that game. The Sims franchise feels like it's dying like Sim City.
Me too
Simcity is already dead.
Sim City died years ago when Cities Skylines was released.
@@DrBigt I know
Paralives is gonna kill Sims 4 like how city skylines killed Sim City and I am so here for it.
"But in my eyes, this is nothing more than another forgettable add-on to an increasingly forgettable game that has far outstayed its welcome", DAMN. I can't disagree with you though, just haven't heard anyone word the state of TS4 so directly, caught me off guard 😆
The silver lining in EA's bland DLC is LGR's reviews. But imagine a world where EA releases amazing Sims content and we get an amazing LGR review. If only it was more than a dream.
Just go back and watch, like, his Sims 3 Seasons video. It was pretty good. =)
@@CatMuto I rewatched it countless times
I miss the Sims 3 era
He was also really positive in his Sims 3 Late Night review, with his consensus being that it was the first necessary pack for the Sims 3. The only packs for The Sims 4 that came close to a “necessary” praise was Seasons and Get Together, and he seems to praise the game packs. When they’re done beating the long dead horse that is The Sims 4, I hope they get rid of stuff packs, and focus on optimizing game packs because game packs are trying too much while expansions aren’t trying at all. It’s sad, because as a whole I really do like The Sims 4, but the constant nickel and diming of its fan base and wasting a game with so much potential is disappointing.
If they release great DLC at an affordable price, EA gets less money.
Just to let you know, the modding community have been working on making the objects that didn't get chosen in the voting rounds, so there'll be a lot more to pick from.
Thank goodness, there are so many cool options the community could have chosen and quite frankly this pack sucks. It's practically laundry day.
When mods exist, how can these packs even be worth developing? How can anyone want them?
@@stitchfinger7678 Many of the mods out there depend on the packs for their functionality
Nice!!
Christian Klan Xbox users I guess
Remember when Clint loved the Sims? Objective & had somethings he didn't care for but essentially a fan. They have broken him. Let's hope Sims 5 (if it ever happens now) brings your enthusiasm back fella. 🤔
He still loves the game. That's why he keeps making these reviews.
He can review paralives instead
If EA makes it, it won't be better.
Not if it’s made by EA!! Everything they do is for money. The grand total of the game + all packs is over 700 dollars
we see how they are doing the sims 4 i honestly have no hopes for simms 5 im more interested in what this paralives game will be like.
I think the reason why people chose knitting was, they hoped that ea might give them better playable elders...
Maybe we can use this pack to knit Ralph a new body. Poor Ralph.
EA, "Aw... Poor Ralph, we're tearing him apart. Here's our condolence, 10 $ please!"
Moch. Faris Dzulfiqar The Sims 4: Ralph Remembrance Stuff
At least he’s got a digital form now at least.
Knitting pack? What were the other options? "Stamp collecting," "Artisan Jam making," and "Blankly staring off into the abyss," Stuff packs?
Occult pack with a grim reaper career and a tech themed pack that was suppose to made the player able to open and manage a laboratory
Sounds like this was a case of Ironic Troll Votes. Like the whole "Boaty McBoaterson" thing from a few years ago. Jeez...why do I even remember that?
mightyfilm no no, people were serious at the time: many simmers really wanted an "elderly pack" for their sims grannies
I'll take your word for it. Still sounds like a prime thing to troll bomb.
😂 Don’t give EA any ideas!
If this was in Sims 3 it would've been a part of an EP with a town and actual content
If this was in Sims 2 it'd have been a small chunk of a stuff pack
If this was in Sims 3, it would've been a Sims 3 Store item available online for some ludicrously large number of SimPoint funbucks (and it'd be anyone's guess how many actual dollars it would cost you). Actually, the knitting equipment would probably only be available as a part of whole venue, like the glass-crafting one they did or the tea-drinking one.
Point is, they've been doing these kinds of low-effort, low-content releases for longer than The Sims 4 has been around, it's just that you'd only notice it if you went to their website and looked. The only new thing about it is that now everything they do is front-and-center in the game menu and gets a trailer. The rest of it -- the price, the absurdly limited scope, the nagging question of "who is this FOR?", well, none of that is new at all.
@Ynouva Sure, but that was The Sims 2. My point is, this has been going on since *The Sims 3*, and the only difference between the Sims 3 Store collections and a Sims 4 Stuff Pack is that the latter gets marketed openly and has a price in actual money ($10, in the US) while the former was easily missed (if you did what everyone did and blocked all internet stuff from TS3) and had a confusing company-store cash-for-SimPoints exchange rate to wrangle with. Other than that, it's the same thing: a feeble smattering of items, maybe one ridiculously narrow and baffling "gameplay" feature that nobody really asked for and which dead-ends almost immediately.
Really, it's how bad the Expansion Packs have gotten that makes me angry. I can ignore a Stuff Pack as easily as I ignored the Sims 3 Store, but there's no way to ignore the fact that a Sims 4 EP has maybe (if we're being absurdly generous) a third of the content that a Sims 3 Expansion did. And yeah, it all runs better and it's mostly integrated into the main game in ways that TS3 just couldn't handle, but good lord, how can they charge 40 bucks for THAT? (yeah, I know, it's because they run half-price sales on EPs every five or six weeks to keep their sales figures up for the EA mothership, but still!)
I'm so mad at how Sims has gone, but once I found out EA had bought out Maxis, it made a lot of sense. EA seems to be the place decent/good games go to die. If Sims 5 comes out, I'm not even touching it because I have a feeling it's going to be some type of online thing with micro-transactions.
Except you'd pay $40 for the town. Let's not forget that Sims 3 was just as shitty in pricing.
Sims 2 had a pack called Freetime, it added a ton of new hobbies, ballet, fixing up cars, pottery, sewing, and more. It had a new system that would increase your points in different interests like sci-fi that would increase if you read books or magazines about it, watched TV, went to club meetings, or did the hobby itself and it opened up new dialogue and other options. It also added a feature that you'd get "in the zone" sometimes when working on your hobby. Google it, you'll be surprised just how much is in there.
The distinction between knitting and crochet is much appreciated by this practitioner of both!
I'm starting to feel sorry that this is what the Sims has become - and that's as an outsider. I wanted to play it when I was younger but could never afford a copy. I played some at a friend's house once, either 2 or 3 but I'm not sure, and I had a lot of fun! But these expansions seem like instead of adding more depth, they're just adding extra surface area. It's like diving into what used to be a big swimming pool of content, but just cracking your head on the floor of a paddling pool.
Just get TS2 or TS3 and you'll be happier. They're both better games than this.
No Pool DLC costs extra.
I think through one or the other bundle I ended up with the sims 3, but I never played it.,
I had a ton of fun with the original which I got as 'the complete collection'
But it speaks volumes about the series as a whole that even that first game, the complete collection is accurate because there wasn't anything released after it...
But it has the base game plus like 8 expansions.
8!
So right off the bat this game series was DLC bait.
But the expansions from back then seemed a little more meaty than these 'stuff packs'...
Let me think...
What was it again? Probably messing up half the names, but whatever.
- Base game.
- House Party
- Pets
- Holiday
- First date
- Makin magic
- Celebrity...
Eh. Too many.
And what has happened to the sequels? It's even worse, of course... XD
Yeah, I never did feel inclined to bother with the sequels...
the only solution to the sims series is firing every single person responsible for taking these decisions (lead designers, game directors, etc), it's absolutely disgusting what they are doing
@@liquidmodernitytasteslikeu2855 I have a feeling it is more an EA money thing than a developer thing. Sims 3 was not nearly as bad if I recall. This feels like EA milking a cow to death.
The feels when he says pack 137 and for a second you cannot decide if he's joking. Rip the Sims 4
The Sims 4 HAS far outstayed its welcome.
EA has outstayed its welcome.
The only reason I want this pack is because of metal music lmao
Until it comes to switch and completely revives and refuses to die like GTA5
@@RaidenUchiha Knowing Nintendo, they wouldn't be that bothered about this. They know their business.
Nah.
i reaaally wish they'd made it an arts & crafts/hobbies gamepack or even expansion ala the sims 2 freetime; freetime added so much for sims to do & really enriched the gameplay. as someone who plays with families a lot, i feel like we need more diverse hobbies for our sims to partake in. i know it's been said many times before, but the sims 4 really is a millennial simulator, & as a millennial myself i'm tired of it.
I kinda want more of the crazy and wacky aspecs in the game. My favorite packs are realm of magic, island living, cats and dogs and vampires for that reason. The reason this game stood out from the crowd initially was because of that, and now, you're right, it basically is millennial simulator, and it doesn't even seem like it covers the entire millenial aesthetic, it just covers the boho one, and it's frustrating.
@@thenerdybunny1296 bought Island Living on sale a few days ago and the island just feels tiny I remember the Island from Sims 3 it was huge and there was a lot to do and even more space (sure my Lara croft wannabe that lived on one of them ship lots spent 90% of my playtime Parked over one of the swimming spots) on that island.
ignoring time spend in China/Egypt and France Tomb Raiding for money.
in fact The First Map you got in the sims 3 sort of didn´t get expended when the news DLC got released resulting in a lot of services not having a space to exist on.
that if you didn´t take the time to build it yourself (something I couldn´t do been a terrible architecture and inertial designer).
resulting in I believe the older maps getting less and less used for play.
TheNerdyBunny yes!! i adore the wacky supernatural stuff, my current family are all occult sims, but even my favourite ts4 packs are majorly lacking compared to their previous ts1/2/3 counterparts & it's so disheartening
@@xandermin Did they not teach you how capital letters work at school?
That pack(Freetime) also included sewing funnily enough, which allowed you to sew unique items and clothing (similar to knitting). Granted the sewing didn’t grant the same amount of unique items as this pack does, but the sewing in Sims 2 was a small feature in a bigger expansion pack. I’m kinda sensing a theme here, since they also did this kind of thing with bowling and laundry.
Basically take a small feature that used to be a small part of a bigger expansion pack in previous games, and then make it a stuff pack and sell it for 10 bucks.
Next up: The Sims: Whittling! Spend hours almost cutting your fingers off to sell your pointy stick for pennies on Plopsy!
Whittling is more interesting then knitting..
Next we can have a pack that's strictly for shoes. You can cobble boots, sandals, and heels for cash on plopsy.
mind you plopsy DOESN'T EVEN WORK RIGHT lol
Hear me out: a larger Hobbies-type expac (maybe game pack but preferably expac), of which whittling is a small part. Other hobbies could include baseball, rugby, soccer/footie, ballet dancing, tango, 3D animation/game development, 3D printing, sewing, fashion designing, others. This would come with a slew of new personality traits for our Sims, and be paired with a base-game update overhaul to current traits to make them actually impact gameplay.
Haha, who am I kidding? This isn't The Sims 3 anymore. I firmly believe that the gurus are doing their best (most of the time; I'll admit that this pack in particular was underwhelming) but generally their corporate overlords give them very little leeway.
If they’d done an arts and craft expansion pack, this could’ve been one of the activities
You know the sims 4 is getting really bad when you don’t even want to pirate the expansion/stuff/game pack
Lmao I was literally just thinking this. It's not even worth the time. Whatever cute build mode items I like from this, I can find it with better swatches and patterns from a cc creator
I mean what's the point of it now anyway? My computer is pretty shit so I have to think's about every new thing I install. Also, Ea continues to give us the most frustrating crap and I can't believe people still buy these ridiculous packs.
haha why am I laughing? This is the sad truth!
Imagine the new dreadlocks were stolen from a cc creator.
@@aomeke8368 Fuck, Redheadsims didn't deserve this. Thank godess people notice it now. Not the first time Ea did this.
Does it say a lot that LGR saying this is the 137th's stuff pack didn't even make me question it? I just accepted "Yeah...that sounds accurate at this point."
I went cold turkey with additional Sims 4 content in 2019. It's just... it's just embarassing how they're stretching this game's lifespan by now. I still play it, don't get me wrong, but I'm not buying new content for it. I've got the essentials and then some - I'm a happy camper.
I wish metal station was a part of the update because that's the only thing that interests me in this pack
Couldn't agree more! It reminds me A LOT of the Sims 2. Which was a good game. (cries in silent).
Correct me if im wrong, but cant you add your own music to the game soundtrack?
@@Sarah-og3mp I'm a nostalgic! I mean that including any type of music by default remind me of the environment of Sims 2.
I couldn't agree more. The whole stuff pack wasn't my cup of tea, didn't see the appeal. I kind of laughed when the metal radio appeared, because I didn't expect it to be there. But now it is there, I kinda want it. But not the stuff pack. The metal station, combined with some retro 80s and 90s grunge/goth clothing, that would be much better than the knitting. Kind of a Bon Jovi/Twisted Sister kind of stuff pack. Now that's a stuff pack worth the money.
But I guess I just either add the music in the playlist myself, or just play Spotify instead. Doesn't feel the same though.
I'm shocked and appalled that they didn't add Man's Fire from TS2 to the channel.
You could buy Hollow Knight for essentially the same price.
How much knitting is in that game?
@@darrennorniron Well, you do fight with a needle...
I like how NL is showing up in the comments of decidedly non-Nintendo-related videos now.
Lol! With substantial gameplay too!
Hollow Knit
I'd rather have recycled Sims 2 free time as an expansion that just knitting for 10$ there are mods with more depth and mostly free lol
I'd rather they re-release Sims 2 and 3, so I can play those. I don't even care about Sims going forward. I see other simulation games coming out, like Paralives, and I'm waiting on those, now.
@@BooDotBoo I hope the creators of Cities Skylines (who actually killed SimCity for EA) create a life simulator and kill the Sims or at least make EA sweat profusely. CS is a 5+ year old game at the time of this post and it's still a great one minus the fact it's not "optimized" for budget systems.
I am interested in seeing where Paralives goes but I've found some issues (with the fan community and the dev team) that make me continue praying Paradox Interactive/Colossal Order gets into the life simulator business.
7/31/20 11:42p
I just wish I didn't have to reinstall every single mod with each game update.
Instead of ridiculous stuff packs like this, we need an extension for “Get to Work.” I love the idea of being able to play as a cop, Scientist or doctor...it’s my favorite expansion to date. but what about as an Athlete, fireman or criminal? Add burglars back into the game! This stuff pack could have easily been a monthly update, not a $10 money grab
The worse thing is actually everyone buying the pack the MOMENT it comes out. Your completionism cannot be justified at this point, people...
I've learned many Sims fans are not your regular pc gamers. They are like obsessed funko pop collectors with a dollhouse.
Ofc everyone has the right to play a game in whichever way they like but I do think some players' completionism and blind loyalty have been indirectly hurting the franchise.
@@andyhaochizhang that mentality is so fucking stupid. I can't understand how they don't have any common sense,
Imagine how they must have felt when they heard about the pack and before watching any reviews of the pack, went and purchased and downloaded it the moment it came out, opened their game, went into CAS and selected the “Nifty Knitting” filter, and found out that almost every item was locked.
Personally I don’t play the game for months start playing, get bored very quickly and for some stupid reason think the next pack will make all the difference to the game. I buy it, play for a few hours, get bored, stop playing for months. Repeat 😭
Watching this just makes me can't wait longer for Paralives. At least if it's not as "polished" as EA's Sims, this indie developer care about their project.
Before your comment, I didn't even knew about paralives. Thank you for that.
same for me. Thank you for showing me the light side of gaming again!
Eh, I've got Animal Crossing now. Oh, and by the way, while it cost $60, at least the monthly updates have been free... I haven't bought anything new since City Living, and even that game disappointed me.
Animal crossing is at least a complete game. Players paid $500 for sims and the game still lacks depth and feels like an incomplete game.
I play mmo’s which rely on cash shops or expansion packs similar to sims 4 and those games don’t feel so barebones.
Thank you so much for your comment! I didn't even know about Paralives it looks amazing
You know there's something really wrong when even Sims themselves get bored of those community picks...
Ha! So true.
Everytime something gets released for Sims 4 it just shows how far we haven't come from Sims 3 or even Sims 2. I'm glad I still have The Sims 2 discs still for whenever I feel like playing The Sims.
You're forgetting that sims 3 charged like $10 to have pizza ovens as a standalone item right
@@purplevoncreep9920 I never said Sims 3 was good. Personally I'll only play Sims 1 & 2 if I want sims. I just said Sims 4 really hasn't progressed as a game compared to the previous installments
Purple Voncreep True, but at least their expansion packs had a lot of effort in them. Some had so much in it that it broke the game (ie. Island living)
@@janethebluemouse island living was poorly optimised it didn't break because it had to much stuff lol
Is it weird when I say that I still enjoy the over 10 years old and still buggy as heck Sims 3 way more than Sims 4? One of the biggest reasons besides customization and open world is that I don't need that crappy Steam rip-off Origin to run at the background to play it.
No literally everyone prefers sims 3
Not weird at all, I'm still playing the 16 years old sims 2 game
I actually brought sims 3 a few months ago I missed it.
They should have made generations with all the missing life features and added this knitting thing as part of it. EA is getting so lazy now.
Knitting shouldn’t have been a standalone pack, but here we are.
What I can’t stand the most is that EA can’t be bothered to deal with exchange rates from US$ so as someone in the UK they charge us £10 which is the equivalent of around $13.50 WHO IN THE HELL PAYS $13.50 ON KNITTING I COULD PICK UP A ACTUAL KNITTING HOBBY FOR THAT PRICE
If it's gonna make you feel better, in Turkey a stuff pack costs around 60-100 lira (the base game is around 130 lira). For comparison, a bottle of water is 1 lira by the way. I actually knit as a hobby and I can buy good quality yarn for like 5-6 lira.
Evean Daedrul it dosent make me feel better because now I know EA is ripping off lots of non US players not just the UK. That’s a little unfortunate.
The same in the UE with euros
It gets worse, in UKRAINE EA more than doubled prices overnight and now they are ~10% higher than in US. You know, our average salary is 10 times LESS, and on Origin, we get redirected to their store in RUSSIA which we are _literally at war against,_ (we sanction their companies and block IPs from there, it's the LAST country you want Ukrainians to be redirected to), with ROUBLES as currency, which are as popular here as Deutschmarks in 1944 USA. As in, we don't have them. At all. And no, russia isn't even closest country to us, Moscow is as far away as Paris with most EU like Poland or Czech Republic being closer. The only country with prices even higher than Ukrainian is the UK, yeah.
Kasumi Rina Yikes you’d think it would be so easy for EA to just convert currency so we all pay the equivalent of $10 this is so ridiculous
Can't wait for Paralives! Good riddens EA.
I wish they at least included crochet... God there's just so little in this pack.
yeah i mean all they'd have to do is add a few more textures and tweak the animation, i doubt it would have been THAT hard
I mean..this is a “stuff pack” sooo idk why we are all surprised at the little stuff they have.
“Maybe someone saw that ‘slipknots’ are a thing in knitting and got the wrong idea.”
I died-
THIS is the pack they decided to finally bring metal to the radio stations with? Ugh...
Right? Knitting isn’t a “metal” activity. I kind of feel like they added the metal radio station with this pack as a joke and also so they could say: “stop asking for this station, here you go.” Like if you are going to add a radio station with a pack at least have it be a pack where it makes some kind of sense.
@@Gameoverstudios I get that it's a reference to "Heavy Metal Knitting", but as someone who wants a Metal station in the game and has no interest in knitting, it's just fucking annoying.
i was hoping it was a free patch but i have to get this shit if i want metal on the radio? ugh
@@user-ey6lq9qe3n Metal as a whole always being treated as a joke, The addition of it almost feels passive aggressive
I love how your stuff pack count gets more astronomical each pack, there’s a reason I only play sims 3 now nostalgia beat mediocrity every time.
I deleted Sims 4, just play 3 now, as well. Yeah, there are some bugs that were never ironed out, but it's still 1000000 times better as a game.
VegemiteQueen1 I can’t play family’s in sims 4 it’s so shallow I can’t get invested in my sims so I have to do challenges in order to have fun
Nostalgia could speak about quality tho, just wait for a decade and assuming there's TS 5 or Paralives, would people reminiscing TS 4 as we did to TS 2 & 3.
Moch. Faris Dzulfiqar it’s a generational thing tbh people’s whose first sims game wasn’t sims 3 probably wouldn’t enjoy it as much. The no multi tasking hurts me sometimes now that I’ve been babied with sims 4 multi tasking
If we count each of the Sims 3 worlds and collections as separate packs, or if the total cost of the store is added to the price of the game, it will still win (well over $5,000).
Can’t believe this is what was voted to be made. And the number of people I have seen excited and defending this and the price point in various sim groups is astounding .
the community has been conditioned into this. they dont question lack of seasons, apartments, pets in base game, so many packs could be merged together and still not worth the price. this is like if minecraft had a base game with the content of the 1.0 update but every other update contentwise would be paid dlc. want dolphins and fish? gotta pay. want coloured glass? gotta pay. people would be rightfully outraged. but here they are not. because it goes way back. in the sims 1 there were dlc packs. this was because of the limitations of its time; you simply couldnt squeeze that much content into one disc and expect it to be possible and affordable. sims 2 was the same. the base game was as big as it could be with some packs to give what wasnt there. sims 3 is where they tested the waters by removing some details and making more packs, but still making the game a full experience. here we have a 2014 life sim game with no base game weather where you should be able to own a dog or a cat in the base game and that pet should be able to play in muddy puddles during fall also in the base game. this is embarrassing. but because EA and the sims series are so big people will suck it up. free content creators will do more because they care about the game while EA cares about doing none of the work and gaining all the money. i seriously cant wait for paralives to come out so theres some competition
They are the people who, even if EA just gave us poop in a box for a new stuff pack, they'd think it was amazing and think we are all just ungrateful cretins. I don't take this community as seriously as I once did. It's become a Stan community and that's never good.
@@waifu_png_pl6854 It's not that we don't question it. It's just that it doesn't matter in the end. New games will overtake their crown and soon. Kind of like Cities did. But then Paradox decided to EAify Cities Skylines so in the end greed will always win.
@@ChrisParkerstudios How did Paradox "EA" C:S?
waifu_png_pl Hmm maybe....they just like the stuff they’re getting. Also at the end of the day, no one is forcing them to pay for this stuff. Finally, one man’s trash is another man’s treasure. This type of stuff that you hate has traction because people are willing to buy this stuff. It really sucks when you can’t say “I got my money’s worth!” without people saying they’re being brainwashed. It’s ok to not like the dlc but don’t trash people’s opinions on it. If they’re fine and happy with what they got, what’s the harm?
I took up knitting myself some time ago and lemme tell you - its way more interesting than any thing this has to offer
Indeed, actual knitting is pretty awesome.
The $10 is better spent picking up the hobby irl than buying this.
Agreed. I wanted the craft room decor for building more than the game play. The metal station was a nice touch though.
I really trust LGR's reviews about the Sims, I've been watching since sims 3 days. I also love that EA used to send him the packs but then stopped bc he's actually honest about saying they suck lol
Plopsy?! I just snorted coffee out my nose from laughing.
Guess nobody told them 'plop' is posh British slang for crap.
I wonder if EA actually is following the original concept of the Sims as a satire of consumerism.
"I've become what I used to hate"
If we think Sims 4 is nickel-and-diming the players, just wait until they announce Sims 5 as a "live service" game with worse mod support...
I'm convinced Sims 5 will be online and have mirco-transactions. I don't put it pass them with how Sims 4 is going... and the fact that so many newer simmers are throwing money at them for barely anything.
Sims 76
Do you remember Sims 3 Store?
@@guguy00 I'm laughing and crying at that comment at the same time. And then crying some more because that's absolutely possible in the future omg!
You joke, but EA has already been floating the possibility of Sims 5 requiring you to be connected to the internet and forcing interaction with other players. Because they didn't learn anything from the SimCity 5 debacle.
This has no reason being a stand alone pack lmao (expect for money of course, because EA)
It should've either just been a free update OR a small slice of a huge "hobbies" expansion. (Even then I'd argue that stuff like hobbies in a LIFE SIM game should just largely be a part of the main game)
I also wish that this was finally a pack that would show older sims some love. I don't mean to say young sims can't like knitting (I know more knitters my age than older folks), but damn it! Give Grandmas something to do in the sims!
Thank you LGR, for another good and honest review. You're the only Sim reviewer I can stand to watch or support.
So... once again we could've got pottery with this. Some other crafting hobbies and an overhaul to woodworking. I voted in this but did not vote for knitting. Knitting was bottom of the list for me, but it was like, w/e... maybe we will get more things for elders.
However, when we tried to push for Elders the "KnITTING iS fOrR eVERBoDy" crowd VOTED against it. Like this is ridiculous. The community even offered suggestions for more minor activities to include in this. All we got is grandma daydreaming about a childhood that's not currently possible in game and whatever this is. I've seen people report the skill leveled insanely quick within a 24 hrs of play.
They say they're done with "old packs" but we could've just had the GP instead of this.
I been said this was stupid. Y’all said more gameplay for elders and that’s why ppl said knitting but then knitting was for everybody so once again, no elder gameplay. Firstly elders don’t even do much but more gameplay would be canes and walkers, retirement plans, wills, senior center places, getting sick (new illness system) but no- knitting for everyone lol
Hopefully the GP they working on is way more worth buying than this reject pack, the laundry pack was a better idea than this one and even that one I wasn't 100% approval of because it should have been an Eco stuff pack and we ended up with laundry instead, still haven't bought the laundry pack because of the bugs that haven't been fixed in that pack just yet.
@@stuartvandermerwe8548 I've seen the leaks. We're likely getting a ST*R W*RS game pack. I have no hope for this shit since it's more than likely true. I haven't updated since EL came out (I do not own EL). The EL launch day patch is worse than the stuff pack that came out two years ago...
"Community voted pack"
There are so many things missing from this game. Really who voted for this crap?
Nobody. EA is known for constantly narrowing the scope of packs as people vote for them. People only voted for knitting as opposed to the other half assed options because it was at least still a shadow of what they voted for: Arts n crafts
people voted for arts and crafts but as always they can only do one single thing instead of giving us a full fledged pack.
community voted packs simply don’t work in my opinion, i think it would be very interesting to see the breakdown of the actual results. what percentage of the community actually voted for this? the number could easily be under 50% so long as it had the highest number, so theres a very high chance the majority of the community DIDN’T vote for knitting
Why do I have a bad feeling that the sims 4 is gonna have around 30 stuff packs?
Because this is the 17th stuff pack and they're half-assing all of them
Stuff Packs are no longer stuff packs, they’re the equivalent of Sims 3 plethora of micro transactions that are callled packs to make them sound more necessary than they actually are. I got pretty much all of my stuff packs on sale and for 6 or 7 of them I didn’t even bother to get even on sale.
Sims 3s store has over $1000 of content, sims 4 isnt even at like the $200 mark yet of "stuff packs"
Now prepare to cough up $10 to crochet things... called "Cool Crochets"
And if you give up the $20 total you can knit and crochet unique projects together that you can't get if you don't have both packs
Are you ready for when EA decides to create "The Sims 5" and literally remove every single piece of content to turn it into DLC? It's kinda odd. A new game in "The Sims" franchise always has less content than its predecessor. And during its lifetime, it never gets as much content as the previous one, or gets way too boring and lacking stuff for a long period of time. Just waiting for a game that does to The Sims what Cities Skylines did to SimCity: force them to start innovating and taking the developers off their comfort zones.
fast-forward to 2025 when people vote to include nifty knitting as a stuff pack in sims 5.
also, isn't sim city dead?
If anything, Cities Skylines turned out worse than Sim City; Paradox aren't much worse than EA when it comes to their DLCs (hell, they pretty much have stuff packs in CS now). At least Sim City 2013 only had one DLC.
@@maxperrins8878, one horrible DLC, by the way. Also, you don't need DLC in Cities Skylines. Are you really saying that Paradox is WORSE AS EA? Mod support, huge maps, single-player only, optional DLCs that aren't required for the base game, better performance. Oh well, I guess they really are worse than EA.
Since when did I say they're worse than EA? They're nowhere NEAR as bad as them, but still the C:S IP isn't in very good hands.
Also since when are C:S' DLCs optional but TS4's aren't?
Or worse, they might make it into an online cash grab and you need to pull packs for clothings and furnitures.
Honestly at this point I'm ready to see the Sims die. One day another life simulation will rise.
I can’t believe the community voted for this what were the other options the watch paint drying pack?
self care and embroidering. The rest are somewhat even "worse" options. They're really running out of ideas for stuff packs
@@mewletter maybe it's time for The Sims 5
To be fair, the community mostly voted for arts and crafts thinking it would be like the sims2 free time expansion..
There was an option with creating a grim reaper career!!!
i think most of us who voted for arts & crafts were hoping for, well, a full arts & crafts pack ala ts2 freetime, but ea are greedy ghouls
I feel like it says a lot about the quality of the game when I look forward more to the LGR video than to an expansion pack itself.
Honestly, every stuff pack The Sims have made could have been apart of an expansion or game pack. (For example ice cream maker, popcorn machine, laundry machines, and water slides could have gone in parenthood instead of three stuff packs. This one could have gone into ecoliving)
Soon enough they're gonna have "Deflated Football Stuff Pack", "Homeopathy Stuff Pack", "Broom Stuff Pack", and "Terminal Illness Stuff Pack".
Cannot wait for the Journey to Batuu review! Don't hold back XD
Just wanted to say that LGR is one of my favorite UA-cam channels. Thanks for keeping me entertained, Clint!
"This is nothing more than another forgettable add-on to an *increasingly forgettable game that has far outstayed its welcome* "
Damn, LGR did not hold back this time.
As a yarn craft person, I want this and would enjoy this. But this should've just been an update. Thank you for the review LGR!
The aspiration goal should have been called “Knit Wit”, fight me.
*Does a backflip and snaps your neck
Your move
@@limiv5272 you save the day.
No, you're right! That's a much better name!
“Knitted by Duke Nukem” is a sentence I never expected to read.
people who just wanted their elderly to have something nice to do: 😓
This could have been a free update tho.
The knitting being autonomous is annoying too
If they wanted to keep being money grubbing, they could have made an Elderly Sims stuff pack. They could have included knitting, but also made retirement homes or adult community center lots a thing. Put things like shuffle board or bridge, added options like "send money to grandkids" on the phone or other older adult interactions. Very low effort moves that would satisfy players and make the game better but nope, too easy, EA has to keep choosing the worst possible option when it comes to content.
cuteycuteylala oh yeah, that’s a good idea. They could have made a teen pack too. I think an Elders pack would have went over well. That could been a game pack. We get one or 2 good things per pack and that’s not enough.
cuteycuteylala love that idea!’
The rocking chairs really do come across as lazy.
so basically its $10 for a 'stuff pack' that allows you to knit and sell on a website name parody of etsy wow real creative there.
Oh I can’t wait to see his reaction to this new Star War pack they had the audacity to put out! If he even reviews it that is. We know LGR is a real honest gamer who isn’t on EA’s payroll. So if he doesn’t review it because he doesn’t want to waste his hard earned money I won’t fault him.
Seriously, I had to think which Pack came after knitting. I could not remember, even when I was hyped for Star Wars. Just so bad executed:(
Can't wait for his reaction to the Star wars pack..
I feel like The Sims needs a competitor to take it's life simulator crown, just like how City Skylines took over from Sim City.
There is! I believe it's called Paralives?
@@murphhhhhhh Yep!
But itll take 3 years of complaining how its different before the game actually takes its majority share.
* in walks paralives *
@@murphhhhhhh Nice! I hope LGR decides to cover it.
Amazing review as always! Unfortunately the only thing this stuff pack does is make me excited for creators converting some of this objects to sims 3
It's free real esta...
EA: Imma stop you right there
Nothing from EA is free. 😂
@@worldofretrogameplay6963 ea is keep update
World of Retro Gameplay it’s free to exist (currently).
what a shame sims team
Don't you mean, "Shame on you, Sims team"?
I'm breaking up with sims 4....i just can't anymore. This relationship is dead. Goodbye 👋
"nothing more than another forgettable addon to an increasingly forgettable game that has far outstayed it's welcome"
THANK YOU. lilshillsie and shilligracy are shaking in their licked-clean boots.
I've noticed I've stopped following a lot of the Simmers I used to watch when they became game changers; they act like these packs are amazing, when they aren't. They may make a video about how Sims could be better, but it's usually still excusing EA and making a case for shitty packs and a bad base game. I mean, they cheered for firefighters, like that was something actually new.
@@BooDotBoo I was never able to get into Simmers post TS3 for that reason. They would praise and overhype every. single. thing. in that trademark "UA-camr voice", and I just felt like a lot of them were/are enabling EA for free copies of the game or whatever other perks they may get for being recognized in some form by EA's marketing department.
I remember when it seemed like EA/the Sim Gurus were trying to "buy off" LGR by giving him free access codes for a while. Like they wanted him to change his tune. When that didn't work they stopped.
I'm sure it's worked with other Simmers though. And now EA has some reality TV show planned based off of Simmers competing for shit in real life.
8/1/20 12:04p
'Made possible by EA gamd changers'
I love to watch Simsie’s build videos, they always inspire me and I sort of like her personality. Unfortunately, the vibes of her content have definitely changed since she became a game changer. It’s a shame what getting free stuff does to a person...
Still better than Deligracy. I just get the vibe that she’s faking every bit of it.
@@BooDotBoo you realise lgr literally used to be a game changer right?
It's so incredibly 'meh'. I mean WHY? Hard to believe they are still doing this. We should have had Sims 5 long ago. This is just like throwing glitter at poop & hoping people don't notice. In fact call it "Glitter-Poop Stuff" & have done it with it! 😉
Yummy
100% agree. Sims 4 started out as trash and still is cuz you can't polish a turd. With that I mean is you can't make a game better with x amounts of add-ons if the base game is still crap!
Gaaawd the color palette of all the objects and knitted stuff it's nauseating.
"This was the result of a community vote..."
Democracy was a mistake. t. Spleens the Cat
Florida man is too buy living off of meth and bud light to notice
Democracy wasn't a mistake the corrupt system of EA was
I'd hardly call that rigged voting system a 'democracy' lol.
I'm on the edge of my seat for LGR's review of the sims 4 journey to batuu game pack. Sometimes, disasters can bring little moments of joy.
He said he might not even do it on twitter