You have built a great channel and I enjoy your enthusiasm. I just bought one of those kits but with the regulator from “V power” and had success. The regulator they supply is apparently a higher volume, fixed pressure type and seems to work great from starting to load.
Just wanted to thank you for this info. I bought the same kit and, like you, absolutely no instructions. I had no idea how to use it and how to switch from gas, to propane to NG. Was able to start it on propane but on natural gas, even when priming it, it's doesn't start unless I squirt a little gasoline in the carb first to get it going, and then the NG kicks in. Mine is a pull start only but it might start OK on NG with an electric start.
Excellent video, I’ve set the same thing up, I’ve been trying for a few days now and have not been able to get my generator started. I believe I now know why, watched another you tube video and the gentleman stated you only open the high pressure regulator a small amount. I believe I know now that I haven’t been opening it far enough after seeing your 3/4 turn open. I’ll find out tomorrow, hopefully it’ll start then, thank you much.
Thanks for giving me the courage and incentive to convert my generator to propane fuel. Having to deal with gasoline that goes bad is a nuisance. Propane is the way to go even if it doesn't have the same energy potential as gasoline.
Thanks for the video and the ideas. I bought a generic converter for my Honda EU2000i which contained a pressure regulator and a demand regulator with a primer button. With a barb fitting screwed into the air filter cover I was able to get it running but just barely; it was getting too much gas.I put a restricting valve in the 3/8" fuel line and I could get it started and running but then there wasn't enough propane to make it run when the load went up. I made a plate with a pipe and jet between the air cleaner and carb that would hopefully act like the venturi and jets in a gasoline carburetor. It would only run if I gently pushed the primer button, so it was running lean.I think if I can match the pressure going into the demand regulator with your variable pressure regulator idea I'll be able to match my gas flow to what is needed. Thanks again for the information. Subscribed.
I've used the generator in both gas and propane mode a few times this year. Above 7,000 feet. And below 50 degrees it takes 6 pulls to start. Pretty good for an old bottom of the line generator.
I have the same generator same engine,let me know if you change yours over yet and what propane kit you got and where please I would appreciate it. I've been checking and can't find anything for a Tecumseh motor 10 HP!
Hey Mr. I watched your new welder video and I'd have to say looks like you didn't do to terrible with those welds that you made but I noticed that when you were welding your gun angle is directed to straight in you should tilt your gun slightly to a 15° angle so you can always see your arc better. By the way your gonna need 2 bottles of shielding gas if your gonna do any tig or solid core mig with your welder. For tig welding you gonna want to buy a cylinder of straight argon and for mig your gonna want to buy so 75/25 argon mix but you can go with straight CO2 gas for a hotter weld with more spatter. If you want to get into stainless mig you're gonna need to go with a tri-mix shielding gas as any other gas will not do. Anyways I hope you get a lot of good use out of your fancy new welder.
Thank you very much for your advice. I have a project scheduled for next summer and your advice will be printed out and put in the folder. I did take a welding class in high school (1977). Things have changed a bit.
@@LetsFigureThisOut that's alright there are plenty of welding videos on UA-cam I'd sat especially check out the instructional video by Jody on his UA-cam channel Weldingtipsandtricks. You might be able to check out a few of my videos as well for any pointers I've been welding for about 1/2 my life as well approx 22 yrs
Great Video, I have an old Yamaha Generator sitting out there... $30 seems like a reasonable price to have a backup, I'll have to dig it out to see if the kit will fit. No point to this comment, just trying to boost the video.
BBQ regulator works just fine with these, no need to muck around with adjustable unless maybe you're at a high altitude and need to change the air/fuel ratio.
Excellent! Now I have the confidence to try it myself. In a perfect world, what is the PSI the diaphragm valve installed with the new Carb supposed to see? I guessed you tuned your genset by adjusting the regulator until it ran perfect, but what PSI is that/is that supposed to be? I would like to purchase a quality regulator that is not adjustable to connect between tank and new carb but don't know what to specify or look for.
I first tried a non-adjustable valve and it simply didn't work good enough for me. I'm also at 5700 feet and travel to both higher and lower elevations so the adjustable was the best option for me.as for the exact pressure, not sure, but I think it may have more to do with flow rate. Which is also very low.
That's good too know. It's untelling how many of those conversion kits have been ruined because people hooking them directly to the bottle without a regulator and blow the diaphragm out.
Your propane pressure should be approx 11 inches water column (1/2 psi) which is typical of bbq's and most other appliances. With that HP regulator you are pumping way too much propane in there.. Since you did the Carb swap, the KN regulator on the carb takes care of that.. With the snorkel method,, that would be a problem. . Almost any standard fixed pressure BBQ or camp stove model would work fine. OR you can tap into your house line without any regulator other than the one at the tank ..
I tried using a standard BBQ regulator and found it hard to start. When I changed of to the adjustable, I was able to up the flow a bit and get it to start much easier. It didn't take much, but it made a difference.
@@LetsFigureThisOut If you get curious as to exactly what pressure you have a manometer is very easy to build with just a piece of rubber tubing and a small scrap of wood.... The KN regulator on the carb does act as an on-off valve but it also regulates the flow.. I get approx 22 hours of run-time from a 20 Lb bottle of propane with a constant 11 WC
I get that question often. It all depends on the generator and the attached load. I've run mine with a 30lb bottle for 48 hours straight and it did fine.
Mine doesnt seem to want to idle up under load, but idles fine with no load. I have an adjustable regulator. Think maybe ive got too much propane going in? Have you tested yours under a load? If so, does the amount of propane going in need to be adjusted once the engine revs up?
Mine does fine in both conditions. I have lines marked on my valve for starting and running. You may have a vacuum leak. Spray some carb or brake cleaner around the base to see if anything changes. Also look to see if there are any uncapped vacuum ports.
Amazon has a variety of hose kits. Here is an example: PAMASE 12FT Long Propane Hose Adapter with POL to QCC1 Converter, Extension Hose 1lb to 20lb Tank, for Camping Long Distances Use Large Tank, BBQ Portable Gas Grill, Griddle, Stove
In many cases I would agree with you. In this case (low cost & high vibration) I don't mind a barb fitting as long as you use a constant tension clamp to account for temp variations. Just my opinion.
Yo hice ese mismo cambio con un carburador similar en la parte de arriba del regulador de gas del carburador hay una llave que dice gas lp y gas natural hay que seleccionar el correcto, yo uso un regulador de gas de baja presión y 0.8 metro cúbico por hora y 0.4 psi y funciona perfectamente. Ojo pierdes un 20 o 30 % de potencia
Gracias por tu contribución. La mayoría de estos kits/carburadores son tricombustibles. Gasolina, Propano y Gas Natural. Olvidé mencionar la posibilidad de cambiar a gas natural, así que gracias por mencionarlo.
Actually the parts are identified in the description. I didn't use part numbers as parts come and go. I give a pretty good description of what to search for. Your actual parts may vary depending on the generator you want to modify.
Most dual/trifuel generator carbs like about 9-13 inches of water column pressure. Find a 9-13 WC regulator and they need volume so use atleast 3/8th hose shorter than 10 ft and you should be GTG. 9-13 WC pressure is 1/2 to 1 psi.
I’ve got the same set up only my generator is a Troy Bilt. However I can’t get it to start. Thought maybe it was because of the Torch spark plug so replaced it today with an NGK BPR6ES, and still nothing. It has an electric start, turns over, but never fires up. Does anyone have any ideas? Generator is 420cc, I’m wondering if maybe it’s not turning over fast enough to create a strong enough vacuum to open the valve to pull in the propane. Is that a possibility, and if it is, what should/do I do next? Any help/ideas are greatly appreciated.
Maybe I can pick your brain as I’m at a lost here. Got the same type setup, I’ve tried everything I can think of and it still won’t start. I can spray starting fluid in the carb and it fires right up, however when I connect my propane hose and try starting it, nothing, it just turns over and over and does nada. Any suggestions as too what I should/could try? Do you choke it when trying to start on propane? Do you think it could be the unit itself or a bad HP hose? Has anyone else got any suggestions or had a problem like this. Any help is surely appreciated. Thx all.
Sounds like it is not getting enough fuel. When I tried the non-adjustable regulator it had problems. The extra bit of fuel seems to make the difference. Yes I do use the choke to get it running. Also make sure the gasoline valve is closed. If the gasoline tank is empty, it could suck air through that line and give a too lean condition.
I bought most of these parts from Amazon and I don't get anything from you buying these parts. Just copy and search each one. Tri-Fuel Conversion Kit: Nature Gas Propane Tri Fuel Conversion Carburetor Kit for Predator Harbor Freight 3200 4000 Watts Gas Generator. Adjustable Pressure Regulator: GasOne 2109-RED 4 ft High Pressure 0-20 PSI Adjustable Regulator with Red QCC-1 Type Hose-Works with Newer U.S. Propane Tanks. Brass Hose Adapter: Anderson Metals - 07004-0606 Brass Hose Fitting, Connector, 3/8" Barb x 3/8" Male Flare (Fits the above regulator) 3/8” Fuel Line 2 each Hose Clamps
Don't tell us anything about propane, play me some more grooooovy music. I don't have a radio so, screw the propane play me some boogie ! ! ! Think before you act dumb.
Since I live in the middle of nowhere and I'm in a metal building, radios don't work very well. So, I updated an old Kenwood and added Bluetooth. Not that expensive and it works great with I Heart Radio.
You have built a great channel and I enjoy your enthusiasm. I just bought one of those kits but with the regulator from “V power” and had success. The regulator they supply is apparently a higher volume, fixed pressure type and seems to work great from starting to load.
Just wanted to thank you for this info. I bought the same kit and, like you, absolutely no instructions. I had no idea how to use it and how to switch from gas, to propane to NG. Was able to start it on propane but on natural gas, even when priming it, it's doesn't start unless I squirt a little gasoline in the carb first to get it going, and then the NG kicks in. Mine is a pull start only but it might start OK on NG with an electric start.
Excellent video, I’ve set the same thing up, I’ve been trying for a few days now and have not been able to get my generator started. I believe I now know why, watched another you tube video and the gentleman stated you only open the high pressure regulator a small amount. I believe I know now that I haven’t been opening it far enough after seeing your 3/4 turn open. I’ll find out tomorrow, hopefully it’ll start then, thank you much.
I used a regulator for either a weed burner or a turkey deep fryer. That extra little bit really made the difference
Thanks for giving me the courage and incentive to convert my generator to propane fuel. Having to deal with gasoline that goes bad is a nuisance. Propane is the way to go even if it doesn't have the same energy potential as gasoline.
You're a great guy for sharing all this with us. I know that making a video like this takes time and effort.... Lots of it...
🤜🤛👍
Thanks for the video and the ideas. I bought a generic converter for my Honda EU2000i which contained a pressure regulator and a demand regulator with a primer button. With a barb fitting screwed into the air filter cover I was able to get it running but just barely; it was getting too much gas.I put a restricting valve in the 3/8" fuel line and I could get it started and running but then there wasn't enough propane to make it run when the load went up. I made a plate with a pipe and jet between the air cleaner and carb that would hopefully act like the venturi and jets in a gasoline carburetor. It would only run if I gently pushed the primer button, so it was running lean.I think if I can match the pressure going into the demand regulator with your variable pressure regulator idea I'll be able to match my gas flow to what is needed. Thanks again for the information. Subscribed.
if you put a regular ball valve between the carb hose and the demand regulator you can regulate the flow set it and then remove the handle.
I was going to say your hurting my back just watching you pick that up there never light a steel rod welded on bottom with solid tires💯💪👍✌️😉
As I get older I can't lift as much as I used to, which makes my back very happy
Yep save your back
Merry Christmas
Hipi has really good kits that works great and very easy to use them
how did you handle the barbed fitting on the replacement carb? Would you give the information for this hookup?
Great!
good video, thanx for the parts list!😉
I've used the generator in both gas and propane mode a few times this year. Above 7,000 feet. And below 50 degrees it takes 6 pulls to start. Pretty good for an old bottom of the line generator.
Nice 👍🏻. Going switch mine. It’s older sets champion 10 hp electric start. Techumsion motor.
Thanks from ur ole hillbilly buddy. Stay safe.
I have the same generator same engine,let me know if you change yours over yet and what propane kit you got and where please I would appreciate it. I've been checking and can't find anything for a Tecumseh motor 10 HP!
Hey Mr. I watched your new welder video and I'd have to say looks like you didn't do to terrible with those welds that you made but I noticed that when you were welding your gun angle is directed to straight in you should tilt your gun slightly to a 15° angle so you can always see your arc better. By the way your gonna need 2 bottles of shielding gas if your gonna do any tig or solid core mig with your welder. For tig welding you gonna want to buy a cylinder of straight argon and for mig your gonna want to buy so 75/25 argon mix but you can go with straight CO2 gas for a hotter weld with more spatter. If you want to get into stainless mig you're gonna need to go with a tri-mix shielding gas as any other gas will not do. Anyways I hope you get a lot of good use out of your fancy new welder.
Thank you very much for your advice. I have a project scheduled for next summer and your advice will be printed out and put in the folder. I did take a welding class in high school (1977). Things have changed a bit.
@@LetsFigureThisOut that's alright there are plenty of welding videos on UA-cam I'd sat especially check out the instructional video by Jody on his UA-cam channel Weldingtipsandtricks. You might be able to check out a few of my videos as well for any pointers I've been welding for about 1/2 my life as well approx 22 yrs
Great Video, I have an old Yamaha Generator sitting out there... $30 seems like a reasonable price to have a backup, I'll have to dig it out to see if the kit will fit.
No point to this comment, just trying to boost the video.
I get very few comments, so... good news. I read all of them. Thank you for leaving a comment
Hahha.
If you cant do that you shouldn't be working in these things
You got this right with so many things
Another video said "adjust sparkplug gap to 0.025 inches for propane or natural gas."
Great bit of information!
BBQ regulator works just fine with these, no need to muck around with adjustable unless maybe you're at a high altitude and need to change the air/fuel ratio.
5700 feet here
Excellent! Now I have the confidence to try it myself. In a perfect world, what is the PSI the diaphragm valve installed with the new Carb supposed to see? I guessed you tuned your genset by adjusting the regulator until it ran perfect, but what PSI is that/is that supposed to be? I would like to purchase a quality regulator that is not adjustable to connect between tank and new carb but don't know what to specify or look for.
I first tried a non-adjustable valve and it simply didn't work good enough for me. I'm also at 5700 feet and travel to both higher and lower elevations so the adjustable was the best option for me.as for the exact pressure, not sure, but I think it may have more to do with flow rate. Which is also very low.
@@LetsFigureThisOut Thank you.
@@benkanobe7500 will NOT work unless adjustable. Just floods out. Iordered one from ebay...now works fine.
That's good too know. It's untelling how many of those conversion kits have been ruined because people hooking them directly to the bottle without a regulator and blow the diaphragm out.
I once saw a guy try that with an RV. I got there just in time
Like that poster of Plejaren Beam Ship on shop wall.
Thanks. More detail than other videos.
You're Welcome
@@LetsFigureThisOut
basically ... he was lying on the first video --- pure BS ....
I enjoyed your great video, would the conversion kit work on a Firman 1600W Running / 2000W Peak Gasoline Powered Inverter Generator? Thanks
There are a variety of kits available so I'm sure there is one that will work for your generator
what about the engine governor when the load changes, do you need to adjust the pressure when the load changes ?
As the load changes the vacuum on the diagram changes which adjusts the amount of propane flow
Your propane pressure should be approx 11 inches water column (1/2 psi) which is typical of bbq's and most other appliances. With that HP regulator you are pumping way too much propane in there.. Since you did the Carb swap, the KN regulator on the carb takes care of that.. With the snorkel method,, that would be a problem. . Almost any standard fixed pressure BBQ or camp stove model would work fine. OR you can tap into your house line without any regulator other than the one at the tank ..
I tried using a standard BBQ regulator and found it hard to start. When I changed of to the adjustable, I was able to up the flow a bit and get it to start much easier. It didn't take much, but it made a difference.
@@LetsFigureThisOut If you get curious as to exactly what pressure you have a manometer is very easy to build with just a piece of rubber tubing and a small scrap of wood.... The KN regulator on the carb does act as an on-off valve but it also regulates the flow.. I get approx 22 hours of run-time from a 20 Lb bottle of propane with a constant 11 WC
I like having a primer button best
thanks, good info. switching mine soon. when you went to amazon, did you have to put in make and model of your generator?
I did a number of searches. What it came down to was engine size and generator watt output to get the correct size kit
@@LetsFigureThisOut thank you
You gonna need a low oil cutoff, very simple to install.
I will check to see if it has one. If not, I will add one. Good call, thanks
The one's I have seen do not have one. Assuming you will check oil when refueling.
Thank you so much!
It still works great and having the propane option is nice
What do you think is the running time with one full take of propane? BTW, excellent video and information.
I get that question often. It all depends on the generator and the attached load. I've run mine with a 30lb bottle for 48 hours straight and it did fine.
Mine doesnt seem to want to idle up under load, but idles fine with no load. I have an adjustable regulator. Think maybe ive got too much propane going in? Have you tested yours under a load? If so, does the amount of propane going in need to be adjusted once the engine revs up?
Mine does fine in both conditions. I have lines marked on my valve for starting and running. You may have a vacuum leak. Spray some carb or brake cleaner around the base to see if anything changes. Also look to see if there are any uncapped vacuum ports.
Where did you buy the propane hose that goes from tank and generator if Amazon could you please put a link
Amazon has a variety of hose kits. Here is an example: PAMASE 12FT Long Propane Hose Adapter with POL to QCC1 Converter, Extension Hose 1lb to 20lb Tank, for Camping Long Distances Use Large Tank, BBQ Portable Gas Grill, Griddle, Stove
If that isn't what you want search "Extended Stay Propane Kit"
Is the barb fitting on the carb threaded into the carb? If so, it would be nice to unscrew the barb and change it to the common threaded connection.
In many cases I would agree with you. In this case (low cost & high vibration) I don't mind a barb fitting as long as you use a constant tension clamp to account for temp variations. Just my opinion.
Excellent very patient
Easy peazy lemon squeezy.
Just wondering if you have tested the run time for that size propane tank working at about half load?
Not yet, but it would be a good test.
Yo hice ese mismo cambio con un carburador similar en la parte de arriba del regulador de gas del carburador hay una llave que dice gas lp y gas natural hay que seleccionar el correcto, yo uso un regulador de gas de baja presión y 0.8 metro cúbico por hora y 0.4 psi y funciona perfectamente.
Ojo pierdes un 20 o 30 % de potencia
Gracias por tu contribución. La mayoría de estos kits/carburadores son tricombustibles. Gasolina, Propano y Gas Natural. Olvidé mencionar la posibilidad de cambiar a gas natural, así que gracias por mencionarlo.
I am new to youtubing .. watched yout Harbor Freight conversion to propane video and never saw parts list at end . How do I access that info? Thanks
Actually the parts are identified in the description. I didn't use part numbers as parts come and go. I give a pretty good description of what to search for. Your actual parts may vary depending on the generator you want to modify.
I installed a dual carburator but the propane own is not working which pressure regulator is the best low or high
This is what I used: GasOne 2109-RED 4 ft High Pressure 0-20 PSI Adjustable Regulator with Red QCC-1 Type Hose-Works with Newer U.S. Propane Tanks.
I then put two marks on the regulator with a sharpe. One for Start (Richer) and one for run.
Most dual/trifuel generator carbs like about 9-13 inches of water column pressure. Find a 9-13 WC regulator and they need volume so use atleast 3/8th hose shorter than 10 ft and you should be GTG. 9-13 WC pressure is 1/2 to 1 psi.
I’ve got the same set up only my generator is a Troy Bilt. However I can’t get it to start. Thought maybe it was because of the Torch spark plug so replaced it today with an NGK BPR6ES, and still nothing. It has an electric start, turns over, but never fires up. Does anyone have any ideas? Generator is 420cc, I’m wondering if maybe it’s not turning over fast enough to create a strong enough vacuum to open the valve to pull in the propane. Is that a possibility, and if it is, what should/do I do next? Any help/ideas are greatly appreciated.
I had the same problem when I tried to use a fixed pressure regulator. The variable made all the difference
Start it on starting fluid for now
I really like your channel
Maybe I can pick your brain as I’m at a lost here. Got the same type setup, I’ve tried everything I can think of and it still won’t start. I can spray starting fluid in the carb and it fires right up, however when I connect my propane hose and try starting it, nothing, it just turns over and over and does nada. Any suggestions as too what I should/could try? Do you choke it when trying to start on propane? Do you think it could be the unit itself or a bad HP hose? Has anyone else got any suggestions or had a problem like this. Any help is surely appreciated. Thx all.
Sounds like it is not getting enough fuel. When I tried the non-adjustable regulator it had problems. The extra bit of fuel seems to make the difference. Yes I do use the choke to get it running. Also make sure the gasoline valve is closed. If the gasoline tank is empty, it could suck air through that line and give a too lean condition.
@@LetsFigureThisOut must have an adjustable reggulator to work.
Am from Nigeria how can I get the dual carburetor
I bought most of these parts from Amazon and I don't get anything from you buying these parts. Just copy and search each one.
Tri-Fuel Conversion Kit: Nature Gas Propane Tri Fuel Conversion Carburetor Kit for Predator Harbor Freight 3200 4000 Watts Gas Generator.
Adjustable Pressure Regulator: GasOne 2109-RED 4 ft High Pressure 0-20 PSI Adjustable Regulator with Red QCC-1 Type Hose-Works with Newer U.S. Propane Tanks.
Brass Hose Adapter: Anderson Metals - 07004-0606 Brass Hose Fitting, Connector, 3/8" Barb x 3/8" Male Flare (Fits the above regulator)
3/8” Fuel Line
2 each Hose Clamps
Can I get the Amazon company in Nigeria
I really need to buy the carburetor
Good ❤
actually -- the regulator should be a low pressure regulator ... there is no choke on propane on this setup ...
Don't tell us anything about propane, play me some more grooooovy music. I don't have a radio so, screw the propane play me some boogie ! ! !
Think before you act dumb.
Since I live in the middle of nowhere and I'm in a metal building, radios don't work very well. So, I updated an old Kenwood and added Bluetooth. Not that expensive and it works great with I Heart Radio.