If anyone who doesn't know, Prince Philipp actually send Diana a letter where he expressed his disapproval of Camilla and his confusion of why Charles picked Camilla over her.
@@rafigt460 Because looks aren't everything you know. We don't know Charles, we don't know Camilla and we didn't know Diana. We just know the Versions of them that were created by the Media.
@@mikipav1064 True. We really don't know what happened behind those closed doors. The media were exploiting the royal families' life for entertainment. Just like Netflix has done.
@@candyfordinner7216 Yes, but on an emotional level he was never truly avaliable or giving to Diana as a husband should be. While she in turn, was giving all she could give. Charles never stopped his relationship with Camilla (physical or non physical) and I think on some level, that hurt Diana even more then when they resumed their affair in 1986. All the signs were there even before their wedding that Charles had no real intention of forgetting or communicating romantically with Camilla. Diana found the braceless with the Fred & Gladys engravings, two photographs of Camilla falling out of Charles' diary on their honeymoon infront of her and Charles wearing with no shame cufflinks with the engraved intertwined ("like lovers") C's beboldened into them. Despite him saying he tried to make the marriage work from the beginning, all the signs prove the opposite. And as a result, he and the establishment destroyed her mentally and almost broke her spirit.
"I have done my best". I find this funny. Because Charles hasn't tried. Diana has tried endless to create a positive marriage and all she tried to do was please Charles. But all Charles wanted was camila.
To someone as entitled as Charles him doing 'his very best' would have been agreeing to marry Diana at all. It's all perspective, all relative to what you're used to
This marriage was doomed from the start. Even if he had tried his best by cutting off all contact with Camilla, I doubt he would’ve fallen for Diana. It just wasn’t going to work when he never loved her in the first place.
@@valerieng1561 Thank you Valerie! That is what I have been saying this entire time to people who find it convenient to assign blame to Charles, Diana, or both of them for the marriage failing. Charles did not marry Diana because he loved her but rather because it was his duty as Prince of Wales.The queen with her hardened exterior knew this well and so did her husband and the rest of the royal family because they arranged the marriage. Let's get real here... Charles and Diana would both have been better off never knowing and meeting each other.
@@JohnLai queen Elizabeth and Phillip are the perfect examples of monarchs they rule with passion and tradition and somehow have stayed together and been happy with each other for over 60 years Charles only recently married camila after causing Diana mental and physical problems he does not deserve to be king
@@Joseph-v6y that's why Phillip was quite pissed as well, cause Phillip and the Queen went through some turbulence as well seen in earlier seasons but endured the pressure of media and government
@@bardgold4553 his adultery was the reason why chruch of England was found. When he was trying to rid his wife for Anne Boylin it caused a monarchial crisis. So while kings may have had affairs on the side their mistresses were often kept under wraps from the public and clear distinction between family/wife's status in his life versus bachelorhood like behavior were made. Most kings kept mistresses but none placed them over duty.
@@karensmyth1215 That is so true in fact the Catholic Church did noting wrong in England except the pope rejected the divorce to Henry VIII, Henry did not separate the Catholic Church because the so called suffering of the English people but his own Shellfish Desirs and his ego to have a son for a male heir, he became a tyrant an English NERO the truth is the Church of England is based on a lie for 500 years Queen Mary I of England was setting things Right.
One of the defining moments of Olivia Colman’s performance. Claire Foy has the youth and innocence but this is where Colman shines, as a wiser, more world-withered person who still clings on in there for the sake of her family and country. Brilliant acting.
What I love the most from Olivia Colman's performance as The Queen, is that she started to give her that coldness to the top, I mean Young Elizabeth had to learn to be cold and no let matters affected her, and Adult Elizabeth know realizes that is the way it needs to be. She learned over the years to become this cold woman people sometimes think she is. Colman was mesmerising in both her seasons.
I would add that there were scenes where Claire BRILLIANTLY showed the young queen coming of age and quickly learning how to better grow into her role. I strongly feel the moment she crossed from an innocent little girl into a queen was when she called in Churchill and one of his party leaders to her office and verbally lashed them for hiding so many secrets from her. She was furious because Churchill hid his failing health and was by this time, unfit to rule. She was also furious with Salisbury for hiding the fact that Churchill wasn't ill but had suffered a stroke.
This was my favorite scene of the season. Charles deserved the scolding he got and im so glad that Her Majesty basically told the spoiled little shit to shut up. Long may she reign.
I just didn’t like in the previous scene how she treated Diana, this woman was on the brink and she would rather go Feed the Dogs?? She was sooo curt and nasty
@@Ellerich3 If you saw it from Elizabeth's point of view, it makes much more sense. She married at 21, and went through the roughest part of her relationship during her 20s and early 30s. In the beginning of Season 2 when she begins to suspect Philip is cheating on her, she's around 30 years old and he's around 35. In the last episode of Season 2 when she confronts him about his possible infidelity, she's around 37 years old. Prince Philip is around 42. Diana married at 20, she went through the roughest part of her marriage during her 20s. Charles married at 32, and went through the roughest part of his marriage during his 30s. In the last episode of Season 4, when they're both completely cheating on each other, Diana's 29 years old and Charles is 42. These aren't the beautiful but naive young girl and the dashing but misguided young prince. They are two grown-ass adults who are behaving like toxic teenagers. From Elizabeth's point of view, it's ridiculous that they're behaving like this at their age ESPECIALLY when life has handed the best financial and influential circumstances to them on a silver platter. And honestly, she was right to treat them like that.
@@owlman_ UMMMMM maybe Charles, but I respectfully disagree with Diana- my point is. This woman’s sanity was on the brink. Have you ever been in a situation where all u want is to be loved? The one person who u thought was going to give you that Love that you crave for treats you like Trash, and when all u may need is an ally they turn their back on you 2...she literally was ALONE save for Prince Phillip Not to mention she was estranged from her mother due her parents’ divorce when she was very young....this may have added to the need to want to be close to the Queen.
Her verbal abuse in season 3 investiture episode coupled with her ill attempts to love him is it any wounder he's ill equipped to handle anything e.g. jealously and bad attempts at affection. If you want your offspring on the right path makesure you put things in place to keep them on it.
"You can't divorce, that's against everything the english monarchy and church stands for" My dudette, the entire thing was started BECAUSE of royal divorce :)
@@CountryCowboy008 Technically speaking, it's annulled, annulled then beheaded, died, annulled, beheaded, survived. The irony is that annulment means that the marriage was null and void from the beginning. One of the charges Anne was supposedly guilty of was adultery. How could she have committed adultery when the marriage never existed?
@@CountryCowboy008 You are correct! Just as the Queen finally ordered the two to get divorced, (even though the COE doesn't condone divorce). Not their marriage annulled. Peter Morgan may have written the dialogue between closed doors, to help fill in the gaps of what he thinks happened (and did a fairly good job of it, imho)--but there is still historical written evidence that says that Henry wanted a divorce from Catherine of Aragon. Not an annulment. Funny that we can find proof of events from 500 years ago, yet still speculate about things from 25 years ago!
Im just curious, why her sisters didnt step in, after all at least one of them had dated Prince Charles for while. I believed Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles manipulated everything to their own advantage. They were both much older and sexually active for years. Prince Charles needed children, Camilla Parker Bowles had already had her with her husband and didnt want more, they wanted to be together but he needed children at least one son. Prince Charles only married Diana Princess of Wales for children. They are selfish manipulaters that have caused harm and destruction to other people lives. I dont know how the Princes could look at Camilla Parker Bowles and know that she was the cause of destruction.
Diana's father was determined to have one of his daughters marry one of the queens sons. He always hoped one of his older daughters would marry Charles. His hope was Diana would marry prince Andrew. So there was some family pressure on Diana to make them proud.
I blame them both (Diana messed around too), but I blame Charles a lot more. When they married, he was 32 and she was only 20. I can't really blame a 20 year old for having unaddressed psychological baggage from a dysfunctional childhood. However, I do blame a 32 year old who not only still has all that psychological baggage, but apparently hasn't made any effort to address it. From what I can see, Charles was FAR more interested in having a second Mommy to pat his head, kiss his booboos, and tell him how special he was all the time (which Camilla did) than he was interested in being a strong, confident, and emotionally self-sufficient husband (which Diana expected).
@@HookedOnSonics518 what nonsense is this? Diana and Charles were leading separate lives from about 1986 onward. Diana didn't make any effort to stop cheating.. it was just that for a time James Hewitt left her and she was left alone
Colman nor Foy look like her, but they found her essence and brought it out in their acting. Pretty BRILLIANT! Mirren didn't look like her either, but all of them found something that made their portrayals of her "believable."
@@tillyboos - Claire Danes could have pulled off a young Queen Elizabeth really well in terms of appearance. Helen Mirren did a bang-up job when she played an older Queen back in '06.
It’s amazing how we gained sympathy for him as a child, respected him as he grew into his own man or tried, and despised him for his cruelty and childishness as a man.
I actually dislike him less as I've grown older as I realised he wasn't the only one at fault the the notion of the perfect DIsney princess disintegrated
Like... no it’s not that god likes the Brits As the old saying goes “The sun never set on the British empire, because even God couldn't trust the Englishman in the dark” When the Queen dies the Brits will riot 😉
"I've done my best, my very best" - the nerve of him saying that. He shut out Diana when she tried to repair the marriage in the previous episode. He gave her no chance.
Judging by the way the queen looked up sharply with that small frown, she clearly agrees. I love how it's not even the anger she shows later, it's genuine confusion that he can say that with a straight face.
@@elva136 Diana too noble??? Come on. She had quite a few affairs, like any woman of her age.. but it did not bother her that her men were married or had other commitments. Charles wanted a good friend for a wife,,, and he iddn't get that in Diana
@@glen7318 that happened after YEARS of Charles cheating on her, gaslighting and emotionally abusing her. She’s human and humans all have a breaking point when they are mistreated and abused.
@@monicac2466 that's not the point. If adultery is SOOO bad, then a "good" woman like Diana should never comit it. And after making a fuss about Camilla taking her man, Diana took up wtih a few men who had wives or serious girlfriends. It didnt bohter her that she was upsetting other women
In this scene, it really feels as if she's making a jab at all of her children. In her arc in which she is trying to figure out which child is her favorite, she's surprised to discover how spoiled and ungrateful they all are towards her, which is completely unlike what she expected. This scene felt like the end of the arc, where she finally made known how irritated she has become that these children have received almost everything that they could possibly want in life, and yet they're still miserable.
The sad thing is she’s irritated by them because she had to numb herself to uphold the crown, and as a result she pushed away her children. They got little to no genuine love and this is the consequence of that.
@@monicac2466 The story at its heart is about a members of a family struggling to manage and keep separate their two identities from each other: as a family member to each other on one hand, and as a guardian of an institution of another. Queen Mary's letter was basically the instruction sheet to her granddaughter.
@@monicac2466 every leader numbs themself to different degrees, how on earth could they survive if they didn’t? She upheld the crown because she believed in it, she tried her best with her children during a time at which social conventions were rapidly changing. Despite this, she was successful and will be remembered as one of the most influential people to have ever lived.
this is going to sound so so horrible but I was really hoping she would out life him. almost did too. both caught covid19. but I think she stayed on this long so Charles rule would purposely not be long like Edward vii (less then 9)
@@IndependentConversations Well given the longevity of the royal family he could be king for a while. But some people say he looks sick so it may not be the longest reign. Who knows.
"No, you're not suffering, we're all suffering for having to put up with this!" Great performance by Olivia Colman. We will never know what the Queen said or did not say to Charles and Diana. If she did say anything remotely close, you can't really blame her. It was reported that both of them, at the time, kept seeking her assistance.
I can most definitely blame her. That horrible woman forced her son into a marriage he didn’t want with a woman he didn’t want. What kind of mother is that?
@@angelicavasquez3870, still no excuse to treat your wife miserably. Even if Charles had no love for Diana, he had 100% obligation to treat her respectfully and kindly.
'Might I request we do it like privy counsellors? On our feet to keep it brief' Clear influence from Churchill on Elizabeth there (from season one, episode three): 'The precedent set by your great-great-grandmother was to keep us standing like privy counsellors. To waste time is grievous sin. If there is one thing I have learned in 52 years of public service, it is that there is no problem so complex, nor crisis so grave, that it can not be satisfactorily resolved within twenty minutes'
"Privy counselors" sounds oddly like someone who is a counselor in the restroom - but I suppose in UK the term has some meaning that makes more sense...
The problem is she was unsympathetic to Diana who was suffering as a result of him treating her like crap. She calls him out for what he does yet does nothing to aid those it effects, forget Elsa, this is the true Ice Queen.
When you take out the context of them being Royals, it's basically a mother telling her son to stop being a whiney brat and grow up and that's why I find it such a good scene !
When you watch the two season of the crown and watch Philip and Elisabeth problems in their marriage.. I get what the Queen is saying here .. : deal with it , I have !!!
One of my favorite scenes in the show. Love the acting, dialogue. I wonder how the next season will be done. If this conversation ever happened between the Queen and Charles, he deserved every single word she said to his face. Also Charles never did his best, if he did his best, he would have stopped seeing Camilla for a long time. Instead he continued to see her during the time he was seeing Diana through their marriage years, divorce to the Diana passing. If the real Charles is anything like this one, I hope Diana haunts him to the end of his days. Thanks for uploading.
"If one day you expect to be King.." "I do." The daggers of passive aggression, knowing his mother must die for him to be King. Not that he means it, but that was mean.
@@Emiliano_Figueroa Queen Elizabeth will never abdicate her throne. She committed herself to sit on the throne until the day she dies, after her family's history of abdicating the throne.
This is the reason why the queen lives forever! Because she is afraid what might happens into the future if the crown will land to Charles head. God save the Queen!
Prince Charles: ‘I have done my best’ QE: reminds him of his betrayal towards Diana and how he doesn’t even try to hide it. So in a sense, she basically tells him, No he hasn’t even tried 😂😂😂
I guess the reason that she thought both Diana and Charles are being ungrateful and immature because she thought of her great grandmother, Queen Alexandria. She was suffering from her husband, Edward VII’s neglect as well, and also from his countless affairs and basically his total scandalous lifestyle, but the difference was that Queen Alexandria knew what was best for her and she was strong enough to put reason and possibly plotting before her feelings. After all, she outlived her husband and maintained a respectful, powerful Queen. Elizabeth admires firm hearted figures and unfortunately Diana has failed to do that, so from her perspective, Not only Charles, but Diana as well, will definitely bring down the British monarchy if they ever get to be King and Queen.
All the UK felt like that. What chuck wanted was to remove Diana and exile her somewhere using the major Hewitt adultery excuse. Diana found out and decided to have her story in the book, this is the only reason the book came out, had chuck not been so belligerent and decisive in removing her, we would have never had the book … chuck is pure trash and of course he killed her
-"If one day you expect to be King-" -"I do." I don't know about y'all but that one line kind of drives home exactly what is most important to Charles.
*The moment she decided to become immortal.*
If we consider late nineties to be immortal then ya'll have low standards. Come back and talk when she is 105
I was the 1000th like
@@SamsungS23Ultr It’s actually pretty impressive tho. Most 90 year olds can barely walk let alone do civic duties for their country.
@@theplayasclub5948 my 94 year aunt can drive and still does gardening for the neighborhood. :/
Lol
"they know you are a spoiled, immature man..." POP OFF QUEEN
Yass Queen 😂😂
literally 😂
@@zazasaphiera5430 😂😂
And who spoiled him, hmmm?
Fr yes go off sis!!!
Elizabeth: "If one day you expect to be King-"
Charles: "I do"
Elizabeth: LOL SIKE
Haha
I hope the queen lives forever or least until charles dies so he never gets to be king
@@biancadesousa yeah we hope so..
from the Philippines❤️🇵🇭
umm, he's becoming king. what sike?
@@saeedvazirian he can't as there will be no queen
If anyone who doesn't know, Prince Philipp actually send Diana a letter where he expressed his disapproval of Camilla and his confusion of why Charles picked Camilla over her.
any sane person would have been confused on why charles chose camilla over diana
@@rafigt460 because he was more compatible with Camilla
@@rafigt460 Because looks aren't everything you know. We don't know Charles, we don't know Camilla and we didn't know Diana. We just know the Versions of them that were created by the Media.
@@mikipav1064 True. We really don't know what happened behind those closed doors. The media were exploiting the royal families' life for entertainment. Just like Netflix has done.
@@allye4228 because he wanted a mummy not a wife.
Did his best? He never once stopped seeing Camilla, throughout their courtship and marriage.
didn't even try to hide it either
For that it make you wonder, how did she put up with it for 15 years? Charles didn't deserve her.
For a spoilt brat like Charles this was trying
In real life he stopped seeing Camilla for unrelated reasons in the late 70s, they only started seeing each other again in 1985
@@candyfordinner7216 Yes, but on an emotional level he was never truly avaliable or giving to Diana as a husband should be. While she in turn, was giving all she could give. Charles never stopped his relationship with Camilla (physical or non physical) and I think on some level, that hurt Diana even more then when they resumed their affair in 1986. All the signs were there even before their wedding that Charles had no real intention of forgetting or communicating romantically with Camilla. Diana found the braceless with the Fred & Gladys engravings, two photographs of Camilla falling out of Charles' diary on their honeymoon infront of her and Charles wearing with no shame cufflinks with the engraved intertwined ("like lovers") C's beboldened into them.
Despite him saying he tried to make the marriage work from the beginning, all the signs prove the opposite. And as a result, he and the establishment destroyed her mentally and almost broke her spirit.
that's why The Queen still holds it and not let charles becomes king
Yep, she know whats up with her heir.
Skip him and pass the baton to William instead?
@@monassickofyourbs838 she can't there are succession rules. He's not the next successor
Im telling you she's determined to outlive him for that reason
if Charles dies first, then William can be next.
"I have done my best". I find this funny. Because Charles hasn't tried. Diana has tried endless to create a positive marriage and all she tried to do was please Charles. But all Charles wanted was camila.
To someone as entitled as Charles him doing 'his very best' would have been agreeing to marry Diana at all. It's all perspective, all relative to what you're used to
Science has always claimed that men are always looking for the most beautiful women. I guess Charles proved science wrong when he chose Camilla 🤣🤣🤣
@@wodnilhedivad749 omg lol 😂 😂
This marriage was doomed from the start. Even if he had tried his best by cutting off all contact with Camilla, I doubt he would’ve fallen for Diana. It just wasn’t going to work when he never loved her in the first place.
@@valerieng1561 Thank you Valerie! That is what I have been saying this entire time to people who find it convenient to assign blame to Charles, Diana, or both of them for the marriage failing. Charles did not marry Diana because he loved her but rather because it was his duty as Prince of Wales.The queen with her hardened exterior knew this well and so did her husband and the rest of the royal family because they arranged the marriage. Let's get real here... Charles and Diana would both have been better off never knowing and meeting each other.
That's when she decided to create Horcrux(es).
Lol
OMG! I had to pause the video so I could laugh- 😂😂😂😭😭😭💀💀
I always knew the Queen was a witch.
Had to pause the video to laugh XD .
Had to pause the video to laugh XD .
I personally believe after what Charles did with Diana it’s when she wanted to live forever to stop him from ruling
Exactly, how can people trust that you can rule the country when you can’t even commit to your marriage
@@JohnLai queen Elizabeth and Phillip are the perfect examples of monarchs they rule with passion and tradition and somehow have stayed together and been happy with each other for over 60 years Charles only recently married camila after causing Diana mental and physical problems he does not deserve to be king
@@Joseph-v6y that's why Phillip was quite pissed as well, cause Phillip and the Queen went through some turbulence as well seen in earlier seasons but endured the pressure of media and government
@@jxswu3224 duty always comes before family
God has some irony 🤣The Queen is not ready to quit haha
In the future:
Charles: *dies*
Elizabeth II: "My time has come..."
Lmao
I hope the queen never dies
😂😭😂
That's exactly how it's gonna be.
Long live king William
In the Middle Ages people like Charles were always overthrown.
or killed o-o
Based on what? His infidelity? Almost all medieval kings loved their mistress and not their wife. Ever heard of Henry VIII?
@@bardgold4553 nah he just seems weak and lousy
@@bardgold4553 his adultery was the reason why chruch of England was found. When he was trying to rid his wife for Anne Boylin it caused a monarchial crisis. So while kings may have had affairs on the side their mistresses were often kept under wraps from the public and clear distinction between family/wife's status in his life versus bachelorhood like behavior were made. Most kings kept mistresses but none placed them over duty.
@@karensmyth1215 That is so true in fact the Catholic Church did noting wrong in England except the pope rejected the divorce to Henry VIII, Henry did not separate the Catholic Church because the so called suffering of the English people but his own Shellfish Desirs and his ego to have a son for a male heir, he became a tyrant an English NERO the truth is the Church of England is based on a lie for 500 years Queen Mary I of England was setting things Right.
One of the defining moments of Olivia Colman’s performance. Claire Foy has the youth and innocence but this is where Colman shines, as a wiser, more world-withered person who still clings on in there for the sake of her family and country. Brilliant acting.
What I love the most from Olivia Colman's performance as The Queen, is that she started to give her that coldness to the top, I mean Young Elizabeth had to learn to be cold and no let matters affected her, and Adult Elizabeth know realizes that is the way it needs to be. She learned over the years to become this cold woman people sometimes think she is. Colman was mesmerising in both her seasons.
Yes but I can't get over what she did to Mark Corrigan.
I mean seriously.....JEFF???
And now we wait for Imelda Staunton
I would add that there were scenes where Claire BRILLIANTLY showed the young queen coming of age and quickly learning how to better grow into her role. I strongly feel the moment she crossed from an innocent little girl into a queen was when she called in Churchill and one of his party leaders to her office and verbally lashed them for hiding so many secrets from her. She was furious because Churchill hid his failing health and was by this time, unfit to rule. She was also furious with Salisbury for hiding the fact that Churchill wasn't ill but had suffered a stroke.
World-withered. I like that phrase. A very apt descriptor. I'm going to start using it.
the acting between Josh O’Connor and Olivia Colman is insanely good
Agree
both are excellent
Clarice Orsini omg 😍✨
@Caitlin Mcgrath weird?! in what way
I agree. In addition, Tobias Menzies was amazing. I thought both he and Olivia absolutely nailed their final scenes for the show.
This was my favorite scene of the season. Charles deserved the scolding he got and im so glad that Her Majesty basically told the spoiled little shit to shut up. Long may she reign.
I just didn’t like in the previous scene how she treated Diana, this woman was on the brink and she would rather go Feed the Dogs?? She was sooo curt and nasty
Scolding lmao so British
@@Ellerich3 If you saw it from Elizabeth's point of view, it makes much more sense. She married at 21, and went through the roughest part of her relationship during her 20s and early 30s. In the beginning of Season 2 when she begins to suspect Philip is cheating on her, she's around 30 years old and he's around 35. In the last episode of Season 2 when she confronts him about his possible infidelity, she's around 37 years old. Prince Philip is around 42.
Diana married at 20, she went through the roughest part of her marriage during her 20s. Charles married at 32, and went through the roughest part of his marriage during his 30s. In the last episode of Season 4, when they're both completely cheating on each other, Diana's 29 years old and Charles is 42.
These aren't the beautiful but naive young girl and the dashing but misguided young prince. They are two grown-ass adults who are behaving like toxic teenagers. From Elizabeth's point of view, it's ridiculous that they're behaving like this at their age ESPECIALLY when life has handed the best financial and influential circumstances to them on a silver platter.
And honestly, she was right to treat them like that.
@@owlman_ UMMMMM maybe Charles, but I respectfully disagree with Diana- my point is. This woman’s sanity was on the brink. Have you ever been in a situation where all u want is to be loved? The one person who u thought was going to give you that Love that you crave for treats you like Trash, and when all u may need is an ally they turn their back on you 2...she literally was ALONE save for Prince Phillip Not to mention she was estranged from her mother due her parents’ divorce when she was very young....this may have added to the need to want to be close to the Queen.
Her verbal abuse in season 3 investiture episode coupled with her ill attempts to love him is it any wounder he's ill equipped to handle anything e.g. jealously and bad attempts at affection. If you want your offspring on the right path makesure you put things in place to keep them on it.
"You can't divorce, that's against everything the english monarchy and church stands for"
My dudette, the entire thing was started BECAUSE of royal divorce :)
well she didnt say this exactly but still divorce is different from annul, Henry VIII annul his marriages, technically its not divorce
@@guifdcanalli yeah, and when he couldnt, he killed them.
@@guifdcanalli I thought it's divorced beheaded died, divorced beheaded survived?
@@CountryCowboy008 Technically speaking, it's annulled, annulled then beheaded, died, annulled, beheaded, survived.
The irony is that annulment means that the marriage was null and void from the beginning. One of the charges Anne was supposedly guilty of was adultery. How could she have committed adultery when the marriage never existed?
@@CountryCowboy008 You are correct! Just as the Queen finally ordered the two to get divorced, (even though the COE doesn't condone divorce). Not their marriage annulled. Peter Morgan may have written the dialogue between closed doors, to help fill in the gaps of what he thinks happened (and did a fairly good job of it, imho)--but there is still historical written evidence that says that Henry wanted a divorce from Catherine of Aragon. Not an annulment. Funny that we can find proof of events from 500 years ago, yet still speculate about things from 25 years ago!
“Let me make something clear”....and clear she did!
The only reason the queen is alive to prevent Charles from taking the throne.
The moment Charles died is when she’ll die
@@maximoscott8135 yep. She live as long as she needs to stop him
@@kanwarghuman7720 and she knows that
😬
This didn’t age well
Charles never deserved Diana to begin with. Even though he was older than Diana he was pretty immature while she was still a naive young woman.
Im just curious, why her sisters didnt step in, after all at least one of them had dated Prince Charles for while.
I believed Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles manipulated everything to their own advantage. They were both much older and sexually active for years. Prince Charles needed children, Camilla Parker Bowles had already had her with her husband and didnt want more, they wanted to be together but he needed children at least one son. Prince Charles only married Diana Princess of Wales for children. They are selfish manipulaters that have caused harm and destruction to other people lives. I dont know how the Princes could look at Camilla Parker Bowles and know that she was the cause of destruction.
@@lee-annebarrett366 Princess Diana said in one of the tapes that her siblings had forbade her from backing out from the marriage... 😢💔
Diana's father was determined to have one of his daughters marry one of the queens sons. He always hoped one of his older daughters would marry Charles. His hope was Diana would marry prince Andrew. So there was some family pressure on Diana to make them proud.
I blame them both (Diana messed around too), but I blame Charles a lot more.
When they married, he was 32 and she was only 20. I can't really blame a 20 year old for having unaddressed psychological baggage from a dysfunctional childhood. However, I do blame a 32 year old who not only still has all that psychological baggage, but apparently hasn't made any effort to address it. From what I can see, Charles was FAR more interested in having a second Mommy to pat his head, kiss his booboos, and tell him how special he was all the time (which Camilla did) than he was interested in being a strong, confident, and emotionally self-sufficient husband (which Diana expected).
He never wanted Diana to begin with
That's why Queen Elizabeth is still hanging on to the crown, Prince Charles is not fit to wear it.
Unintended Sylvanas reference...
@@olegshevchenko5869 To wield so much power
He deffinetly isn’t now
Neither was George IV. Him becoming monarch was one of the biggest disgraces in British history. A miracle the monarchy survived him.
@@thunderbird1921 wait why was it a disgrace? Sorry I don’t know much about British monarchy history
the way charles said he has done his very best as if he didn’t totally sabotage her during 10 years
100% right. Diana made a visible effort to stop cheating, but Charles basically drove her back into it after he refused to talk to her.
@@HookedOnSonics518 what nonsense is this? Diana and Charles were leading separate lives from about 1986 onward. Diana didn't make any effort to stop cheating.. it was just that for a time James Hewitt left her and she was left alone
As he should he never loved her and they should have not arrange a mariage between two people who don’t love each other 😂
Olivia doesn't look like the queen but dang, the way she talks and moves, she has definitely pulled it off. She needs more recognition for this. 👏 💯 🏆
Claire Foy looks NOTHING like her, either.
Colman nor Foy look like her, but they found her essence and brought it out in their acting. Pretty BRILLIANT! Mirren didn't look like her either, but all of them found something that made their portrayals of her "believable."
@@tillyboos - Claire Danes could have pulled off a young Queen Elizabeth really well in terms of appearance. Helen Mirren did a bang-up job when she played an older Queen back in '06.
It’s amazing how we gained sympathy for him as a child, respected him as he grew into his own man or tried, and despised him for his cruelty and childishness as a man.
I actually dislike him less as I've grown older as I realised he wasn't the only one at fault the the notion of the perfect DIsney princess disintegrated
If the queen outlived Charles irl, then God must really like Britain..
Like... no it’s not that god likes the Brits
As the old saying goes
“The sun never set on the British empire, because even God couldn't trust the Englishman in the dark”
When the Queen dies the Brits will riot 😉
@@jamesmurray1045 will we bollocks.
@@NettiGaming well it was a joke but okay 👍
@@jamesmurray1045 Bro..
How do you know god is real-
She didn’t. She just died and now Charles is king.
"I've done my best, my very best" - the nerve of him saying that. He shut out Diana when she tried to repair the marriage in the previous episode. He gave her no chance.
He basically wanted a slut for a wife which Camilla is..Diana was too nobel and real for the likes of Charles taste.
Judging by the way the queen looked up sharply with that small frown, she clearly agrees. I love how it's not even the anger she shows later, it's genuine confusion that he can say that with a straight face.
@@elva136 Diana too noble??? Come on. She had quite a few affairs, like any woman of her age.. but it did not bother her that her men were married or had other commitments. Charles wanted a good friend for a wife,,, and he iddn't get that in Diana
@@glen7318 that happened after YEARS of Charles cheating on her, gaslighting and emotionally abusing her. She’s human and humans all have a breaking point when they are mistreated and abused.
@@monicac2466 that's not the point. If adultery is SOOO bad, then a "good" woman like Diana should never comit it. And after making a fuss about Camilla taking her man, Diana took up wtih a few men who had wives or serious girlfriends. It didnt bohter her that she was upsetting other women
Same energy as "confederacy of elected quitters"
That line by Claire Foy was everything
"...make this marriage and your enormously privileged position in live works..." Sounds very like a very humble Queen
I’m really gonna miss this cast. They have such powerful performances
In this scene, it really feels as if she's making a jab at all of her children. In her arc in which she is trying to figure out which child is her favorite, she's surprised to discover how spoiled and ungrateful they all are towards her, which is completely unlike what she expected. This scene felt like the end of the arc, where she finally made known how irritated she has become that these children have received almost everything that they could possibly want in life, and yet they're still miserable.
There's a quote, I believe:
"The second worst thing in life is to be denied all that you want. The worst thing in life is finally getting it."
The sad thing is she’s irritated by them because she had to numb herself to uphold the crown, and as a result she pushed away her children. They got little to no genuine love and this is the consequence of that.
To be fair edward was actually lowkey and relatable in that scene
@@monicac2466 The story at its heart is about a members of a family struggling to manage and keep separate their two identities from each other: as a family member to each other on one hand, and as a guardian of an institution of another. Queen Mary's letter was basically the instruction sheet to her granddaughter.
@@monicac2466 every leader numbs themself to different degrees, how on earth could they survive if they didn’t? She upheld the crown because she believed in it, she tried her best with her children during a time at which social conventions were rapidly changing. Despite this, she was successful and will be remembered as one of the most influential people to have ever lived.
This hits so different now that Charles is now a king.
Agreed.
this is going to sound so so horrible but I was really hoping she would out life him. almost did too. both caught covid19. but I think she stayed on this long so Charles rule would purposely not be long like Edward vii (less then 9)
@@IndependentConversations Well given the longevity of the royal family he could be king for a while. But some people say he looks sick so it may not be the longest reign. Who knows.
@@KingJackson11355 he's already 73. He is NOT going to out reign his mama. Lol.
@@davidbowling5361 Lol that is for sure
And that’s why Prince Charles will always be PRINCE Charles.
Nah not even that he'll be just Charles
LOL
LOLOL
Shut up y’all!
and the day came... ahre
Damn, I wasn't actually expecting a roasting despite the title but that WAS A ROASTING!
And sadly, the time has come for him to be King… Rest In Peace Queen Elizabeth II and Rest In Peace Princess Diana. We all wish you were still here.
Marvellous acting from Colman. Well said ma'am. 👏
“And one day, you expect to be the King.”
Well, that day has arrived.
"No, you're not suffering, we're all suffering for having to put up with this!" Great performance by Olivia Colman. We will never know what the Queen said or did not say to Charles and Diana. If she did say anything remotely close, you can't really blame her. It was reported that both of them, at the time, kept seeking her assistance.
I can most definitely blame her. That horrible woman forced her son into a marriage he didn’t want with a woman he didn’t want. What kind of mother is that?
@@angelicavasquez3870, still no excuse to treat your wife miserably. Even if Charles had no love for Diana, he had 100% obligation to treat her respectfully and kindly.
'Might I request we do it like privy counsellors? On our feet to keep it brief'
Clear influence from Churchill on Elizabeth there (from season one, episode three):
'The precedent set by your great-great-grandmother was to keep us standing like privy counsellors. To waste time is grievous sin. If there is one thing I have learned in 52 years of public service, it is that there is no problem so complex, nor crisis so grave, that it can not be satisfactorily resolved within twenty minutes'
"Privy counselors" sounds oddly like someone who is a counselor in the restroom - but I suppose in UK the term has some meaning that makes more sense...
Olivia is breathtaking...
Another Emmy
Colman doesn't have an Emmy yet but another nomination is yes.
What we all wanted to say at that time but couldn't
I feel like I wanted to say the same and I wasn’t even living yet 😅.
I was blown away by this scene. Some of the greatest performances by actors till date. I literally stood up and clapped.
Can we just stop for a moment and appreciate what an amazing piece of acting this is?
This is why queen Elizabeth is still alive, she has to stop that Charles becomes King
Haha
She short of the reason why the 2 of them ended up so depressed.
Yep.
I have some bad news…
This didn’t age well…
Reading all the “Queen is immortal” comments in 2022
She did live an amazing long life at least!
King Charles III 💀
I’m so happy Elizabeth is still alive and is queen
I love her. She is and always has been a good woman, Queen and human being
Amen long live the queen of Canada and the commonwealth
@@johntexas8417 this is the woman who's supported Andrew.. who is her favourite son.
Well this didn’t age well, lol.
@@shalo3294 oh my
This scene was so incredibly satisfying!
The whole season I was begging for this to happen!!! Whether it really happened or not I’m just glad The Queen put him in his place.
I loved that scene
He so deserved that for treating his wife like crap, pathetic manchild who needed a woman to heal his mommy issues...
OUCH! true too.
And in real life too...
oh shit you're right
The problem is she was unsympathetic to Diana who was suffering as a result of him treating her like crap. She calls him out for what he does yet does nothing to aid those it effects, forget Elsa, this is the true Ice Queen.
When you take out the context of them being Royals, it's basically a mother telling her son to stop being a whiney brat and grow up and that's why I find it such a good scene !
"If one day, you expect to be King"....that day has come.
it's not the same without Lizzie
READ HIM DOWN, YOUR MAJESTY!!
Man oh man that expression at 0:41
Charles - ‘I’ve done my very best’
Queen - ‘is this clown for real ??’
That's why Queen Wants To rule Forever To not let Charles
I wish she was still alive but she actually said she wanted them to be king and queen
DAAAAMMMNN!!! The Queen did not hold back!
The Queen: "if one day you expect to be king.."
charles: "i do."
the future: lmao
Well looks like he got his wish after all
@@KingJackson11355 let's see how long it lasts...
Then might I suggest that you start behave like one!
This is by far one of the best scenes of the season! By far! Olivia Colman is just breathtaking
And if, one day, you expect to be King-
I do.
Then might I suggest you start to behave like one!
I already miss the Queen.
I hope that this actually happened.
"They know that you betray your wife and make no attempt to hide it" speaks volume
When you watch the two season of the crown and watch Philip and Elisabeth problems in their marriage.. I get what the Queen is saying here .. : deal with it , I have !!!
She’s not letting the crown go until he dies
I wish that was the case. She was amazing. Let’s see how the new king and queen do
What an enjoyable short scene.
Love how Queen sticks up for princess Diana❤
Was anyone else waiting this whole season for someone to finally tell him like it is?
Today this clip hits differently. RIP you wonderful lady who told off Charles in spectacular fashion
“We are all suffering having to put up with this.” is one of the most mom statements I’ve ever heard.
When he says "I do"
My heart screams "NO YOU DON'T"
One of my favorite scenes in the show. Love the acting, dialogue. I wonder how the next season will be done. If this conversation ever happened between the Queen and Charles, he deserved every single word she said to his face. Also Charles never did his best, if he did his best, he would have stopped seeing Camilla for a long time. Instead he continued to see her during the time he was seeing Diana through their marriage years, divorce to the Diana passing. If the real Charles is anything like this one, I hope Diana haunts him to the end of his days. Thanks for uploading.
"If one day you expect to be King.."
"I do."
The daggers of passive aggression, knowing his mother must die for him to be King. Not that he means it, but that was mean.
She doesn't necessarily needs to die lmaoo, she literally can abdicate whenever she wants
@@Emiliano_Figueroa Queen Elizabeth will never abdicate her throne. She committed herself to sit on the throne until the day she dies, after her family's history of abdicating the throne.
Oh I haven't thought of that! Nice
@@Emiliano_Figueroa she would never abdicate. She’s no quitter!
Unlike other comments, this one aged well.
This is the reason why the queen lives forever! Because she is afraid what might happens into the future if the crown will land to Charles head. God save the Queen!
he dragged her into this and the nerve to ask for divorce first tf
how did he drag her, he never wanted to marry her. moron.
25 years ago the entire commonwealth and its allies were in tears over Diana.
Today they celebrate this man’s reign.
The audacity of Charles for putting it on Diana when it was he who was cheating on Camilla from the beginning.
It must’ve been frightening to be yelled at by your mother, the *Queen*
He still sees her as his mother, rather than the Queen - even joked about it in public.
Congratulations to them both- Emmy winners for this season! 👑
I could watch this 1000 times. This is the angriest I have ever seen The Queen.
Prince Charles: ‘I have done my best’
QE: reminds him of his betrayal towards Diana and how he doesn’t even try to hide it.
So in a sense, she basically tells him, No he hasn’t even tried 😂😂😂
Philip said it many times Charles is not fit to wear the crown.
I guess the reason that she thought both Diana and Charles are being ungrateful and immature because she thought of her great grandmother, Queen Alexandria. She was suffering from her husband, Edward VII’s neglect as well, and also from his countless affairs and basically his total scandalous lifestyle, but the difference was that Queen Alexandria knew what was best for her and she was strong enough to put reason and possibly plotting before her feelings. After all, she outlived her husband and maintained a respectful, powerful Queen. Elizabeth admires firm hearted figures and unfortunately Diana has failed to do that, so from her perspective, Not only Charles, but Diana as well, will definitely bring down the British monarchy if they ever get to be King and Queen.
Olivia Colman is brilliant!
Theirs one strong and dynamic leader in the room . You can guess which one is is. God Bless you mum.
As great as this is, he needed to hear this speech a LOOONNGGGGG time ago.
All comments one+ years ago: that was the moment she became immortal
Me: oh honey, if only you knew. RIP her majesty.
I love how relatable she is here. I can empathize with her frustration and fatigue with the whole situation.
All the UK felt like that. What chuck wanted was to remove Diana and exile her somewhere using the major Hewitt adultery excuse. Diana found out and decided to have her story in the book, this is the only reason the book came out, had chuck not been so belligerent and decisive in removing her, we would have never had the book … chuck is pure trash and of course he killed her
I hear he still isn’t behaving like a king which is why Elizabeth shall live forever
That is the way TO SPEAK A TEXT......O.Colman is just an incredible actress.
-"If one day you expect to be King-"
-"I do."
I don't know about y'all but that one line kind of drives home exactly what is most important to Charles.
Looks like he finally got his wish after 70 years
I could watch this a million times.
these comments about the queen being immortal are not aging really well…
she tried. didn't work out. but at least she tried.
Let’s be real… Charles ain’t got much time left anyways
@@michaela2300 We'll see. Your comment probably won't age well either.
The Queen aged well though. She got to 96.
@@RealDoctorMuffins watch Charles live to 200 lmao.
She summoned the spirit of Queen Mary 😂
That clock ticking in the background certainly adds to the tension in this scene!
This scene hits different now
“And if one day you expect to be king”
“I do”
“Then might I suggest you start to behave like one!”
ROASTED 😂
The comment section did not disappoint 👏 🙌 👌
People’s heart will always be with princess Diana.
RIP Queen Elizabeth II 🙏🏻
*”If one day you expect to be King”*
More like, if one day you expect me to die so you can become King 🤣😂
“But mom I’m suffering!”
“Do I look like I give a single, solitary fuck?”
The Queen wasn’t exactly sympathetic about her sons misery was she? 🙈😂
And he still doesn’t behave like a king. Signing the declaration at 73 and he’s bothered by a pen case
So many years have passed and this scolding is still relevant (looking at you, Meghan & Harry)
This scene right here shows truly how everyone really feels about Charles in life
damn she said “one day you expect to be king act like one” well now he has too