I got a non video related question for you. Do you find you have knee pain with non suspension wheels or is this something all wheels might cause? I'm getting longer rides in on my old gen EXN but I find after 30kms my knees are killing me. Wondering if a suspension wheel will help or not, big investment to make if its the same with a suspension wheel. I ask because i"m older and you look to be a bit older than me but you did a 6 hour/70mile ride on the EXN for your range test, something I wouldn't be able to do at this stage. I've had a couple motorcycle accidents that have damaged one of my knees which is the biggest contributor to my issue I think.
@@0xsergy Suspension wheels will completely change your relationship with EUCs. Quite honestly once you own a suspension wheel you will no longer ride the non suspension wheels
Great video brother! I like how you preface your current ride experience and views of the wheel & manufacture with a positive outlook. That dip recovery was nothing short of amazing. You got some serious skills. Glad you made it out ok. Hopefully things will get better with the Sherman L. First batch wheels are always a bit of a gamble imo. LeaperKim has been a great company thus far producing high quality wheels for us. I'm sure they have the best intentions and will work out any kinks.
I really enjoyed your style, the narration was reasoned, informative and smooth while riding unscripted. I'll be back for more, be safe. Thanks 6 pac Gord
The riecovery was AMAZING holy shit bro you got mad skills! It reminds me of Zac Darnell's save a couple yours ago with an insane dip. diiiiiiiiiiip and a MEGA pull with the wheel reangaging, 100% software bug / Cut recovery - EUC gods are with you :)
the lack of a built in seat is so wild to me. This is a long range wheel and leaper kim didn't think about a seat for 1 second. Instead they added a trolley handle that makes adding a seat even more cumbersome
Ride one! Being someone who has purchased over 30 EUC's, NOTHING feels like riding an LK wheel. Best way to describe it is like riding an old 84v wheel, the pep, immediate response and power curve are unmatched. Begode wheels tend to have a little lag then are all or nothing for power like when you climb a steep offroad hill on a Begode wheel they constantly over torque and spin the tire losing traction on an LK wheel you can control the wheel easier and the power and not lose traction as easy. SMOOOTH
These companies are coming out with Wheels too far and aren't fully checking these Wheels and firmware. Everything is just about getting the newest wheels out to top the rival companies
I see the plethora of options to customize your ride on this wheel as being a blessing from god. You can dial in to the way you specifically like to ride in a way I've never experienced on an EUC. Life is good. I hope dynamic assist is available for Lynx folks too.. I think it is.
Funny how Begode/Gotway has been known to have pedal dipping issues and now LK has fallen victim! Hoping it's fixed by the time I get mine! My RS19 back in the day almost dropped me into a 40mph road when doing a 180 on a sidewalk one day.....
On the topic of PWM, it's due to how much the LK wheels rely on field weakening. Lynx hits 80 percent around 45-50 mph and then engages FW, in which case it will constantly report around 80 percent as FW increases until it hits the edge and starts going up towards 100 again
It's a firmware bug and it's overreporting PWM over bluetooth regardless if you use field weakening or not, the internal beeps are correct though, the bluetooth reported value becomes more normalized around 86% but still overreporting
the tuning between the two companies is really apparent, on launch. Begode makes racing tuned wheels with poor QC, LK makes great touring wheels with good QC. Both are 90% of the way there with the way Western riders use their products. Stay upright!! I have a Sherman S with lowering kit on a 241 and love it over all my other Begode wheels (including the Master 134v)
Have the Shinko 241 on my Patton and it is a great upgrade from stock tire , trail ride handling is very much improved and cornering is also much better than stock tire
I put the 244 on my links and I absolutely love it. I don't ride hard enough on the street for it to matter on the street. Still think about switching to the 241 though.
No such thing as "Rider Error Cut outs". The Fact this is even a term shows the Jedi Mind Trick these EUC companies play on riders. No vehicle should Cut out/Lose power while it is in use (Riding/Driving). Until I see other types of Vehicles (PEVs or Gas) cut out, I am blaming EUC Manufacturers for Cut Outs Cut outs are because of the EUC Manufacturers lack of engineering, design, firmware expertise, build quality or Quality Control. EUC riders stop taking the blame for EUC Manufacturers short comings. Every EUC that come have problems and the problems are more exposed once the EUC is taking apart, yet rider blame themselves the short comings of EUC Manufacturers. These types of EUCs been out about 10 years, yet these EUC Manufacturers have 1 year experience 10 times, instead of having 10 years experience
I had a similar weird voltage differential thing that would happen when I used Rodgers fast charger for a while for a while in the higher amp range (9 to 10 amps) with my Lynx. 😂😢😢When I plugged in the stock charger it immediately read correctly in the LK app and euc world. I don't know if you're experiencing that on the stock charger but I don't know maybe try plugging it in and it'll fix it?
I have 325 miles on my week old Sherman-L and have found my setting sweet spot at 66% pedal stiffness, acceleration assist at 50% and psi at 25. I have pushed this wheel and pushed it hard and haven't felt even a hint of unexpected forward pedal dip. The only cons for me so far have been that the pedals aren't great and that this wheel on the Kenda 262's doesn't inspire confidence at speed on turns. A Shinko 241 should definitely solve that. Other than that most fum wheel I've ever ridden in my life.
What are your stats? Im 245lbs ~265lbs with gear and run my Sherman-L TNT tire at 31 psi cold. I have a TPMS and on hot days after riding I can get the psi up to 40 psi. 100 PH, -1.2 degree PT
@@CrossroadWater according to Roger it is a feature on DarknessBot on the lynx that he requested be added for Sherman L. Maybe it is not out yet I have not checked
Are you using an insta x camera? What microphone do you use and what os the setup? Sound is crisp and clear. Thank you for the info. I have the leaperkim and am a beginner with euc. My ride is pretty basic. Not a lot of speed so i have not encountered the software issue yet
@@PEVPOV No worries. Channels like this have really helped me improve and have some level of confidence when riding...I'm from Maryland, DC area where you were just at, but I live in Thailand now. (If I go back to the states for sure I'll attend a group ride).I learned to ride out here like 5 months ago These Thai's look at me like I'm crazy but because I ride or motorbikes and no bike lanes lol. But I somewhat comfortable after during this like 3-4 months daily now. Anyways, I try and give back what I can because these tutorials as super helpful and important especially for us newbies. Thanks again.
That's a shame that you spend so much money on that wheel and it cannot be depended on. And I hope you're right that they do fix it, sounds like they just ghosting people though.....
Fortunately I personally don't like any kind of Acceleration assist on any wheel so on my L I have 0% but that's cuz I ride at -3. So perma assist lol. I do ride 40% medium/soft mode. My major gripe with the L is the charging port cover. I'm ok with the placement, but that cover can be difficult for me.
Dude my charge port cover is so hard it hurts my hands trying to take it off. I found lifting the trolley handle gives me some extra room but yeah super annoying
@@RoyCarter haha no I took the chill crew today! Speed crew does the same ride starting point and destination but different route with speeds 45+ vs chill crew mostly under 30
@@PEVPOV I've seen them, that's why I'm subscribed. Just a little razzing, lol. Just got my fist "big" wheel a few weeks ago, master V4, working on busting 30mph. New street pilot 2 coming this weekend to replace the CST, see if that helps.
@@leetNightshadei velcro mine to the handle AND the suspension cover, keeps it secure during ride. i remove it, lift the trolley handle and slap it on top of the wheel ,under the trolley(suspension cover velcro holds it) and stick my helmet on the handle, works beautifully
@@PEVPOV it’s surprisingly beefy i admit but i’ve always preferred the pop up trolly handles, this handle type is usually incompatible with my usual 3D Printed seat too
Well for one it's more comfortable in my experience and opinion and it allows for I feel like a stronger acceleration that feels more satisfying since you can lean your body into it more.
@@Mpower31 Agree. Especially on bigger wheels, and if you're timid, medium and soft mode fix both by allowing more lean with less effort. You gain a lot of ground by the time the gyro catches up. I ride soft on MasPro, medium on Commander Pro and hard on anything smaller.
No shit everybody says set up the wheel how you like it, but when you have never ridden a wheel how the hell do you set it up suspension hard soft... You just guess but so many options atleast tell us where to start.
Hope the fixes come that allow you to ride it like you want. Good perspective 👊
I got a non video related question for you. Do you find you have knee pain with non suspension wheels or is this something all wheels might cause? I'm getting longer rides in on my old gen EXN but I find after 30kms my knees are killing me. Wondering if a suspension wheel will help or not, big investment to make if its the same with a suspension wheel. I ask because i"m older and you look to be a bit older than me but you did a 6 hour/70mile ride on the EXN for your range test, something I wouldn't be able to do at this stage. I've had a couple motorcycle accidents that have damaged one of my knees which is the biggest contributor to my issue I think.
@@0xsergy Suspension wheels will completely change your relationship with EUCs. Quite honestly once you own a suspension wheel you will no longer ride the non suspension wheels
Great video brother! I like how you preface your current ride experience and views of the wheel & manufacture with a positive outlook. That dip recovery was nothing short of amazing. You got some serious skills. Glad you made it out ok. Hopefully things will get better with the Sherman L. First batch wheels are always a bit of a gamble imo. LeaperKim has been a great company thus far producing high quality wheels for us. I'm sure they have the best intentions and will work out any kinks.
I really enjoyed your style, the narration was reasoned, informative and smooth while riding unscripted. I'll be back for more, be safe. Thanks 6 pac Gord
The riecovery was AMAZING holy shit bro you got mad skills! It reminds me of Zac Darnell's save a couple yours ago with an insane dip. diiiiiiiiiiip and a MEGA pull with the wheel reangaging, 100% software bug / Cut recovery - EUC gods are with you :)
the lack of a built in seat is so wild to me. This is a long range wheel and leaper kim didn't think about a seat for 1 second. Instead they added a trolley handle that makes adding a seat even more cumbersome
Yeah these style of trolley handles suck the lynx one was much better.
I’m actually surprised no Onewheels ride with the chill crew here in Chicago…. They could hang with that speed.
How many onewheel riders are there in the chi group?
We need a scale of smoothness, every youtuber always say on any wheel that it is more smooth than the last one!
Ride one! Being someone who has purchased over 30 EUC's, NOTHING feels like riding an LK wheel. Best way to describe it is like riding an old 84v wheel, the pep, immediate response and power curve are unmatched. Begode wheels tend to have a little lag then are all or nothing for power like when you climb a steep offroad hill on a Begode wheel they constantly over torque and spin the tire losing traction on an LK wheel you can control the wheel easier and the power and not lose traction as easy. SMOOOTH
@@CBRoadster that make sense, thank you for the explainations!
@@mathieucharroisaerialprodu6161 Not problem! Ride safe and stay beautiful!
These companies are coming out with Wheels too far and aren't fully checking these Wheels and firmware. Everything is just about getting the newest wheels out to top the rival companies
I see the plethora of options to customize your ride on this wheel as being a blessing from god. You can dial in to the way you specifically like to ride in a way I've never experienced on an EUC. Life is good. I hope dynamic assist is available for Lynx folks too.. I think it is.
Funny how Begode/Gotway has been known to have pedal dipping issues and now LK has fallen victim! Hoping it's fixed by the time I get mine! My RS19 back in the day almost dropped me into a 40mph road when doing a 180 on a sidewalk one day.....
Your wheel will love you back ... matter of time !!
On the topic of PWM, it's due to how much the LK wheels rely on field weakening. Lynx hits 80 percent around 45-50 mph and then engages FW, in which case it will constantly report around 80 percent as FW increases until it hits the edge and starts going up towards 100 again
It's a firmware bug and it's overreporting PWM over bluetooth regardless if you use field weakening or not, the internal beeps are correct though, the bluetooth reported value becomes more normalized around 86% but still overreporting
@RonnieRides so not calibrated enough to rely on EUC world beeps due to bluetooth delays?
@@robm425 Mine beeps at like 45 mph on EUC world even though I can do nearly 60 before the wheel actually beeps
@@robm425 its overreporting i.e. value is too high = safer, so just set your alarm higher, 85-86% is good (15-14% safety margin)
Great vid!
Thanks Rich ❤
Dang I have been thinking about etting the L. I guess I'll wait and see if they can fix the firmware first.
*getting* the L
the tuning between the two companies is really apparent, on launch. Begode makes racing tuned wheels with poor QC, LK makes great touring wheels with good QC. Both are 90% of the way there with the way Western riders use their products. Stay upright!! I have a Sherman S with lowering kit on a 241 and love it over all my other Begode wheels (including the Master 134v)
The shinko 241 on my Lynx is so good on trail and rides well on street for me too
I’d say Shinko 241 is my favorite tire if I had to pick one tire to ride forever!
Have the Shinko 241 on my Patton and it is a great upgrade from stock tire ,
trail ride handling is very much improved and cornering is also much better
than stock tire
I put the 244 on my links and I absolutely love it. I don't ride hard enough on the street for it to matter on the street. Still think about switching to the 241 though.
No such thing as "Rider Error Cut outs". The Fact this is even a term shows the Jedi Mind Trick these EUC companies play on riders.
No vehicle should Cut out/Lose power while it is in use (Riding/Driving). Until I see other types of Vehicles (PEVs or Gas) cut out, I am blaming EUC Manufacturers for Cut Outs
Cut outs are because of the EUC Manufacturers lack of engineering, design, firmware expertise, build quality or Quality Control.
EUC riders stop taking the blame for EUC Manufacturers short comings. Every EUC that come have problems and the problems are more exposed once the EUC is taking apart, yet rider blame themselves the short comings of EUC Manufacturers.
These types of EUCs been out about 10 years, yet these EUC Manufacturers have 1 year experience 10 times, instead of having 10 years experience
Should be called to Sherman Dip lol
I had a similar weird voltage differential thing that would happen when I used Rodgers fast charger for a while for a while in the higher amp range (9 to 10 amps) with my Lynx. 😂😢😢When I plugged in the stock charger it immediately read correctly in the LK app and euc world. I don't know if you're experiencing that on the stock charger but I don't know maybe try plugging it in and it'll fix it?
I have 325 miles on my week old Sherman-L and have found my setting sweet spot at 66% pedal stiffness, acceleration assist at 50% and psi at 25. I have pushed this wheel and pushed it hard and haven't felt even a hint of unexpected forward pedal dip.
The only cons for me so far have been that the pedals aren't great and that this wheel on the Kenda 262's doesn't inspire confidence at speed on turns. A Shinko 241 should definitely solve that. Other than that most fum wheel I've ever ridden in my life.
What are your stats? Im 245lbs ~265lbs with gear and run my Sherman-L TNT tire at 31 psi cold. I have a TPMS and on hot days after riding I can get the psi up to 40 psi. 100 PH, -1.2 degree PT
I've looked in EUC World, Darknessbot and the LK and don't see a 'Use Calculated PWM' option. Did you ever find that?
@@CrossroadWater according to Roger it is a feature on DarknessBot on the lynx that he requested be added for Sherman L. Maybe it is not out yet I have not checked
Are you using an insta x camera? What microphone do you use and what os the setup?
Sound is crisp and clear.
Thank you for the info. I have the leaperkim and am a beginner with euc. My ride is pretty basic. Not a lot of speed so i have not encountered the software issue yet
Insta360 X3 with DJI mic. I use the Xmount360 for the mic. Thanks!! 👍🏽
Thanks!
Thank you!! Always so consistent with the constant support for my channel ❤ I appreciate it a lot and hope we can ride together one day!
@@PEVPOV No worries. Channels like this have really helped me improve and have some level of confidence when riding...I'm from Maryland, DC area where you were just at, but I live in Thailand now. (If I go back to the states for sure I'll attend a group ride).I learned to ride out here like 5 months ago These Thai's look at me like I'm crazy but because I ride or motorbikes and no bike lanes lol. But I somewhat comfortable after during this like 3-4 months daily now.
Anyways, I try and give back what I can because these tutorials as super helpful and important especially for us newbies. Thanks again.
That's a shame that you spend so much money on that wheel and it cannot be depended on. And I hope you're right that they do fix it, sounds like they just ghosting people though.....
Fortunately I personally don't like any kind of Acceleration assist on any wheel so on my L I have 0% but that's cuz I ride at -3. So perma assist lol. I do ride 40% medium/soft mode. My major gripe with the L is the charging port cover. I'm ok with the placement, but that cover can be difficult for me.
Dude my charge port cover is so hard it hurts my hands trying to take it off. I found lifting the trolley handle gives me some extra room but yeah super annoying
@@PEVPOV lol I do the same thing. really annoying.
I always thought you guys were busting through town at 35 or 40 mph. Mostly you're just cruising around 20 to 25, much more my speed, lol.
@@RoyCarter haha no I took the chill crew today! Speed crew does the same ride starting point and destination but different route with speeds 45+ vs chill crew mostly under 30
@@RoyCarter look my other vids I’m going 50
@@PEVPOV I've seen them, that's why I'm subscribed. Just a little razzing, lol. Just got my fist "big" wheel a few weeks ago, master V4, working on busting 30mph. New street pilot 2 coming this weekend to replace the CST, see if that helps.
Are you recording your voice while riding? It's super clear.
Yes I’m using a DJI mic in my helmet for live commentary
2:56 trolley handle is in fact not great lol but to each their own
@@justaguywithoutapfp6181 what don’t you like about it?
@@PEVPOVI feel like I'd strongly prefer a normal trolley handle. Having a seat attach to a swinging handle seems a bit much.
@@leetNightshadei velcro mine to the handle AND the suspension cover, keeps it secure during ride. i remove it, lift the trolley handle and slap it on top of the wheel ,under the trolley(suspension cover velcro holds it) and stick my helmet on the handle, works beautifully
@@PEVPOV it’s surprisingly beefy i admit but i’ve always preferred the pop up trolly handles, this handle type is usually incompatible with my usual 3D Printed seat too
I also want to put a shinko 241 on mine but a friend of mine told me is impossible. Did you already? Which size fits well? if you know... thx!
Which headlight is that? The eWheels beidou projector one?
Nylonove Cyclope Pro light. I bought this for my Patton around a year ago
PWM reporting is borked on it just like on the Lynx.
don’t know why they didn’t increase motor power, they just used the same motor from the lynx
What kind of pads do you have on your L?
@@MissDaisyTheRacoon they're called Powerknobz!! Best pads I've ever used :)
what's the advantage of riding in soft mode? I don't get it... I tried and it feels so unstable and scary (I am speaking generally, any wheel)
Well for one it's more comfortable in my experience and opinion and it allows for I feel like a stronger acceleration that feels more satisfying since you can lean your body into it more.
@@Mpower31 Agree. Especially on bigger wheels, and if you're timid, medium and soft mode fix both by allowing more lean with less effort. You gain a lot of ground by the time the gyro catches up. I ride soft on MasPro, medium on Commander Pro and hard on anything smaller.
Its over blowwted wheel. I just got the L week ago, feels picked the wrong one. Its not worth for 4500....
Might begode is better.
Sherman L seems toothless.
It's crazy to see all those people defending Leaperkim.
The Kool-Aid is strong...
No shit everybody says set up the wheel how you like it, but when you have never ridden a wheel how the hell do you set it up suspension hard soft... You just guess but so many options atleast tell us where to start.