Atwood Water heater gas control valve replacecement
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- Опубліковано 19 січ 2016
- Model GC6aa-8 Water heater worked great on electric but would not stay lit on propane. Would light when pilot button pushed, but always went out immediately when released. Needed the Gas Control Valve replaced. Couldn't find any video's showing how to do it, and couldn't afford to pay for the repair so I made this video showing the repair. If it helps anybody then I'm happy and your welcome.
Edit: I realized that the last part of the video was not included with this, so I have the full video uploaded in addition to this one, they are the same however the other has about 2 minutes more at the end that somehow didn't get included here. Sorry. Here is the link:
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Thanks Frank for the video, I live in my RV six months a year, lucky I can plug in and dump waste next to my daughter’s house but I can’t make hot water with a broken water heater ,I boil water and mix it in the sink or just go full commando and wash up with cold, no good, my set up is just like yours but from 83’, I’m gonna soak that main joint with some penetrating oil and have a torch ready,thanks again for a well done no BS video,well done sir!
I pray you can find the gas valve, it's been discontinued for a couple years now. Best bet is taking old valve to RV service shop and seeing if they can match it up with a new one.
@@hgffrank It's available through ebay.
I found the same valve on Amazon
@@josephnaja- what is the part number for a replacement?
@@allenkujawa2853 I'll find it... I have it bookmarked on my Amazon list. I've been really busy but I should be able to provide that for you.
Just found this video when looking for gas valve replacement. I agree with others that it is full of useful information and advice from someone who just needs to get the job done. Thanks very much for passing along the advice and posting the video. Like others I was a bit saddened to learn at the end of your circumstances, but from reading your responses in the thread it sounds like things are going much better for you now and I'm thankful for that, and thankful for you, too. Keep being awesome. The world is a better place with you in it brother.
Just wanted to add always use the yellow sealant tape made just for gas threads blue or white is not made for gas lines.
I never used tape, I use pipe sealant paste with no problems.
Just want to say thanks for recording this process. It helped me out a lot as we changed the unit in my son's trailer.
Frank, Thanks for this video.
I tried many things to loosen the valve from the camper including a heat gun. (At the end of this video Frank says he used a torch to loosen the pipe.) Spent over an hour and finally used a longer pipe clamp, which gave me better leverage. (That sucker was on very tight!)
If I can I will post a photo. BTW because the control valve is inside the box it was very difficult to get any leverage with normal tools - pliers, wrenches, etc.
Thank you for the video. Just bought my first RV(1990 Chevy c30 Escaper). I need to repair the water heater and this video is a huge help. Happy trails to you👍
Your welcome.... I wish I would have shown the part where I used a torch to heat the parts up. I actually applied the heat to the water heater tank right where the pipe goes in. The idea is that you want to expand metal to loosen the part, so you really don't want to heat the pipe itself. Doing so is actually counter-productive and could result in the pipe breaking off due to weakening from the heat. But one must be very careful due to the insulation on the tank that you don't want to catch fire or otherwise be damaged. Keeping a fire extinguisher near would be a good idea. There were a few things I would have done different in the video but hindsight is always 20/20. My frame of mind at the time wasn't optimal so I apologize for not being more in-depth.
Thank you very much for your no nonsense no bullshit informative video. I too searched for hours looking for help, but no luck until I found you,
your welcome. I'm so happy that many have been helped.....its a good feeling.
Great video. Gave me the confidence to try to do it myself and avoid the $$$$$ fees of an RV repair guy. Extremely clear and followed from start to finish without issue.
One comment though is I have a 10 gallon tank, the installation is exactly the same however the unit is rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise so the pilot gas supply line and thermal couple will be positioned on the right hand side rather than bottom.
Thank You for this video. With great confidence I'm ready to install my new gas valve! All of my questions were answered! One video done the job!
Glad I could help.
Thank you so much. I have the same unit , an 1985 model ! Invaluable procedure techniques. I will replace the control valve. Cheers. A fellow boondocker in Canada having cold water showers for the past week.
canada is freezing in the winter good thing you got that fixed
I didn't know anything about my old 1978 Atwood water heater now i feel confident to get this thing started because it's definitely not starting now thanks! By the way I absolutely love your personality you make me laugh and your so real it's refreshing!!!! I'm sorry about your a hole neighbor they should have bought you a new generator that's what good neighbors do guess they're not good
We dont even have this type of Atwood unit, but watched the entire thing. Nice job. The new box was still a little crooked, but that seemed to be necessary anyway cuz of the slightly higher intake 45°.
Good job with you're cold water heater, hot water does not need heating ♨️
I'm thinking you don't live in a place that has winter where you need to remove the drain plug and let the tank sit empty during the cooler months. Excellent video. Thank you.
That is correct, SE NM. Rarely gets below freezing here.
Single 55 year old ... and did this Myself added Measures were Flushed the tank out and cleaned it with Brillo Pad on the outside Aluminum and used Plumbers putty oh and got the part off Of Ebay ../ Not Endorsing/ 50 and some change ..... Thank you For taking the time and Sharing..... Many Blessings
great idea to clean it out while there. at the time we just really wanted some hot water and I was pressed for time so I did the bare minimum to get it working.
Thank you for the video. Exactly what I needed to know. Much appreciated! Hope this comment finds you in much better condition than when you shot the video. Turnin wrenches keep tires turnin.
Thank you for the video, this is the exact model we have and I have been hunting for a match and here it is. My valve hose was loose and leaking gas,i bought a new valve control like the one here but I am hoping that now that we tightened the gas connection we can skip changing it but if we do this is the video we need
thank you! I was having a hard time finding info on this atwood
Just switched mine out didn't know about not putting tape on the first two threads mine worked for a day pilot light won't stay lit now also a new coupler was added I hope I don't have to go back to boiling water on the stove and dumping it in the tub aggravating with a brand new gas valve video helped I'm going to go out and check the coupler and see if it's not touching anything I did learn that from you too
My exact water heater excellent and thank you there still doesn't seem to be many videos of this.
It is great watch a pro, you don't let anything stop you, if you don't have the "correct tool" you just use what you you have in your hand. Thank you for the video!!
I've never liked the videos where the person has the perfect tools laid out and its so scripted it's not believable. I just wanted to fix it with what I had immediately available, unscripted, no retakes. It instills confidence in viewers that if this guy can do it with crap tools, and limited knowledge, surely it can't be too hard. Even a caveman could do it.....provided he doesn't smash it with a rock first..😆
Yes helps and thank-you for sharing, tell it like it is, had the same problem holding, lighting the pilot valve over and over just to watch the little flame petere out ,. Hey easy to watch your video, those other videos I could hardly make it through minutes after hours of searching just to find something to learn from,. Glad to hear your circumstances improved. You must be a great teacher. Bri
Hey quick note got er to work without replacement removed and blew out the gas supply pilot, l then reinstalled, held the start button several times with lighting the pilot to get the flow consistent. ...then the next task was carefully tweaking the angle of the pilot and sensor . Just a small degree off and the system fails..
@@briancole3604 Glad you got it handled.
I try to be a good teacher, some days are questionable. Circumstances have definitely improved. I applied for a teaching license and now teach 10-12 grade autoshop, been here about a year...unfortunately it doesn't pay much so even though I love it, I may end up going back to being a diesel technician or be a natural gas compressor mechanic out in the oil fields.
GREAT VIDEO have got replace mine also very informative great job, thanks for all the information,
Thanks!!!! now I know how to do this myself.
I just switched mine out too, thanks to your video :)
how much did it cost you? I need to replace mine soon
I have the exact same problem. Thanks for lighting the way.
Glad it helped.
mines G6a-3 I believe so same deal I got a new thermocouple & pilot still goes out so I guess this is it then next you're right always the nice guy gets screwed so true well thanx for beinniceanyway dude cuz you're right always tons of videos that don't help but yours did
same here, tried thermocouple for a few bucks, didn't fix it, but it worked great after the control valve was replaced.
thanks for the video. very helpful.
Thank you! This is the only video out there for this model!
Happy I could help
Thank you, my mother hired someone to come out to her camper and charged 130. For nothing, she is retired and is on a budget. Not sure if the technician even came. No evidence of being here. No call letting her know what needs to be done 😢
Thank you I watched the video, and then I got busy, and I was able to fix it.
Thanks for sharing...I had no idea what to expect.
I know the feeling, and when ya need to to work it sucks not knowing. Hopefully I removed all the guesswork for ya......good times...
Damn good video man. Glad you made this cause i got to do mine. Just wished you would have shown the back of the gas valve where you said a special wrench was needed other than that , good job.
Special wrench was needed where I used large channel lock pliers. They make a wrench to do that, but it's really not necessary. I've never seen the wrench, I just know it exists
thank you frank for the vid!!
Thank you man, my buddy has the same water heater and the same problem on his.
Make sure he uses yellow Teflon, not white like I did.. 😂 ya live, ya learn
@@hgffrank
Perfect thank you for your response and your advice lol
Thank you very much for this video
H> Thanks for the video, looks easy and depending on your answer I may need to refer back to it.
My pilot light stays on and Im getting gas to ignite fire but it wont stay on very long. I have a 1995 Jayco Camper with Attwood Control Valve. I have plenty of propane. Ive noticed that the stem behind the valve that turns the gas on becomes real sloppy after it first lights and then becomes ineffective until the valve cools completely down. Whats up with it besides being ancient!
In conjunction with gas heat I’m going to install the Camco 11673 Hot Water Hybird Kit.
Thank you have the same heater and same proble
Hi thanks for the great video! Going to attempt this myself. The used camper I bought was missing the entire gas valve though. My question is what is the name of that brass 90 degree fitting that fits between the gas valve and the burner? Thanks!
Great Video, however you should not use Teflon Tape. There is a separate tape made especially for propane and natural gas. It is yellow in color.
Wayne Mendenhall thanks for the tip. I'm not an expert, just a diesel mechanic. I did at least use a good high quality Teflon tape, much better than the normal stuff. It's never failed me. In the future I'll keep your tip in mind and get the right stuff. Thanks again. I actually asked a propane company in town if they could change the valve for me but they refused because I had the camper setup to run on a 100 lb tank. So I asked them if there was anything special I needed or needed to know to do it myself and they refused to tell me anything due to claimed liability. Yet they didn't see a problem crimping a connector on a hose when I connected that 100 lb tank....smh
I have been looking for a video on how to replace this valve, I have had no luck at all until today. I finally found your video. Thank you for doing this. Also I noticed a plastic sleeve on the tube that goes into the water tank, do you leave that on or remove it ? Thanks again.
It's been awhile, but I remember seeing somewhere that the plastic sleeve should NOT be removed. Just leave it in place. Good luck...
@@hgffrank thanks, I appreciate the info.
Thanks a lot for you help!!! :)
awesome vid!!
Thank you!
Thanks for the video
Your welcome
JUST SAYING: for those who are on a budget or plan on getting rid of trailer soon you can unscrew it remove the 2 valves and rubber grommet and put it back together and use your hot water manually. That’s what I did
Can you explain this better to me. I need hot water like yesterday. Please!
I was having the same thing water heater would cut off after 5 seconds. After trying several times to fix it came to notice the gas valve would do a click sound like if it was shutting it off . Took it apart and bypassed it. Now it works without even replacing it hopefully it works out for now.The only thing I think I would have to do is turn it off from the switch inside when no water is being heated.
Thanks Frank, great vid, I am having trouble accessing one at the moment and was wondering about the two wires in the back, they go to a non replaceable cutout. Now I know you should never mess about with gas controllers, and bypassing safety items is perhaps a no-no BUT if I bypass this it will work fine, and I think it is just for overheat? These are available for later models as a separate piece and replaceable.
Any big problem putting one of the replaceable ones inline and putting it back?
parachutist pulls his cord, nothing happens, oh shite he thinks, pulls his emergency cord, still nothing happens, plummeting to earth, about to meet his maker, he sees someone going the other way, "hey, do you know anything about parachutes?" "no" says the other guy "do you know anything about gas control valves?"
You can get a yellow tape for propane fittings too
Hi, Thanks for this video. I have the same one and was wondering, does yours have an on/off switch? Or is it all turned on from the outside?
The gas heater is controlled from the outside on the unit itself as seen in the video. Inside the camper is a switch for the electric side of the water heater.
Great vid, simple and straight to the point; thanks for posting. I have the same water heater and it start right away but cuts off after about 30 seconds. So im thinking about replacing the valve cause its there were all the controls are. What do u think?
Thank you I hope this fixes my issue
I’m wondering if this will solve my particular problem. My pilot will stay lit and will fire up (after a few tries) once burnet is turned on but it won’t stay on. It goes out after a few minutes. I’ll give this a try. Thx for the video!
I worked in a plant that made gas appliances. Only used pipe paste, and we were not allowed to use sealant tape.
Thanks, we live and learn...the wrong tape/paste has been mentioned....at the time I worked with that I had...thanks. Only had to last a few months. If ever I were going to use the camper again and need hot water, I would go back and reseal it properly. Its been sitting in my back yard unused for years, so cant hurt anything.
it amazes me how many people call them hot water heaters. if you have hot water going into the heater, you don't need to heat it.
The gas valve you recommend in your post. Was it a ng or lp valve. When I click know it. It takes me to a Ng one.
I got my replacement valve for 64.13
great lesson ! however the issue i have is every time i am showing the heater pops real loud meaning the pilot turns off any idea and the control is new
Sorry I missed the post. Did you figure it out? Sounds like the thermocouple needs adjusting....
Great info Video HgfFrank !
What price range did you get the Control Valve for ?
Thanks man !
sorry so long to respond, never was notified. I think I paid around $35 for the control valve. I ordered it from an RV internet seller site. Was the cheapest I could find.
What rv site did you go to?
@@hgffrank Please provide the "wholesale warehouse" that you referenced in your video on the best place to get RV parts. Thanks & great video!!
Nice video!!! I just bought a 1998 class c motorhome and went camping this past weekend and my hot water heater burner worked for little but now the the pilot will not stay lit. Looks like I have the same exact set up. How does it work off electric? I'm new to this stuff.
Michael Zuber mine had an electrical switch inside near the water heater, mine was in front of the sink which was covering the heater. Tip: you can use both at the same time, great if more than one person needs to shower. Left mine in gas more, only used electric while showering.
Thanks, I will check in the access panel inside.
Thanks I have the same one but the link to the gas valve is out of stock do you have the Robertshaw number?
Yes it is, and I don't really know what to tell people. I tried finding a suitable replacement but I was unable. Best advice I have would be to get in touch with rv repair centers near you and give them your water heater model number. I spoke briefly with the repair center here and short answer was that they would rather sell an entirely new water heater than provide parts for an old unit that could become a liability for them. Yes, I know it's stupid, but all a person would have to do is say they were told it would fix the problem and the service center would share liability.
Do you have a video showing how to remove & replace the inner tank? I have a G6A-7 ATTWOOD in 04 Nomad. Thx
I'm sorry, no I don't
Did you leave the rubber sleeve on the probe coming out the back of the Valve that goes inside the tank?
Yes, that sleeve stays on the probe.
My unit is doing the same thing but the gas control valve is newer, just like the model you installed. I find it hard to believe I need to replace it again. Any other ideas why the pilot light won’t stay lit and fire the unit up?
Thermocouple may be faulty. Very cheap, when in doubt replace it. I got mine from an HVAC wholesale supply house for a few bucks. The branded ones are a lot more. All that matters is the length.
I was trying to remove the ild one but couldn't figure out how to get it off.i guess the answer is big ass channel locks!
😂 yessir
I thought it was vice versa. The robertshaw was discontinued for the jade white rogers. Thats what the attwood manual states. Perhaps they reverted back?
Who knows. My kid moved here to go to college and lives in the camper. Water heater still working great.
Hey Frank. Was reaching out for any tips. I replaced the thermo couple and the control valve. The pilot still goes out. If you have any suggestions Lmk. Thanks again for your video. I followed it and it was very helpful. Wondering if I’m missing something so simple or something.
With a new valve, good gas supply pressure and new thermocouple the most obvious to me would be TC positioning. The tip should be directly in flame. Is it possible you over tightened the TC. Just barely Finger tight is tight enough. More than the and TC is damaged.
@@hgffrank I will check these suggestions in the daylight. Thank you! I did not tighten TC that much, but wondering if it could be damaged or faulty even though it’s new? I was thinking to get a multimeter to test. This is frustrating so I appreciate you responding.
I got it to work! Thanks again
@@alexisarchibald Can I ask what the problem was? Thanks
Whats the copper wire for that runs from the control unit to the flame?
Thermocouple. It lets the control unit know if there is a flame or not. If the flame blows out the thermocouple tells the control module and gas is shut off...safety...
Can you post a link to the replacement gas valve you purchased? I need the same one.
Amazon carries them, if you know the part number.
Thanks for your video. But for the life of me I can't turn mine. I got a torch and heated the water pipe in behind the controller. I even found a pipe to put over pipe wrench for more leverage. IT WILL NOT TURN!! I have called 4 contractors,and not one call returned. So I guess its shower at the ymca till I find someone that can get that controller off.
Very sorry to hear that. It sounds like you have one that's possibly not going to come out. Maybe somebody used lock-tite while putting it in. That's assuming its already been replaced of course. Sounds counter-intuitive, but did you try tightening it a bit first and then loosen. Sometimes that's what it takes to break the bond. I honestly don't have a good solution for you because heating the pipe too much could catch fire to the insulating foam around the tank...one less than ideal possibility would be to remove the water heater completely, neatly cut away the foam insulation, then heat the living hell out of that tank where the pipe threads in, and try again. at least then you could epoxy or tape the insulation back on the tank when done. Sorry I'm not much help to you. I'd try helping you out in person, but not likely your anywhere near Carlsbad, NM...good luck Brian...
That's not a drain plug , it's a place for the electric heating heating element . You can add that easily and Amazon sellez the kit for 126 for the 6 gal and 143 for the 10 gal . Heats quicker to have both and pretty much gives you 15 gals before getting cold
It already has an electric heating element and it's not in that location
Whats the part number for the new Robert shaw? Please
Any idea where to order a new door mine rusted through and broke
Unfortunately i don't. Could use sheet metal cut to shape with vent slots cut and formed. Better than nothing.
I need the exact same thing except I also need the thermal cut off can you also put in the link were ur purchased it
www.amazon.com/Atwood-91602-Control-Valve-Thermostat/dp/B002UC18HU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=atwood+91602+gas+control+pilot+valve&qid=1614563548&sprefix=atwood+91602&sr=8-3
The thermal cut off I purchased at a local hvac wholesale store because the RV shop wanted 10x the price. Those thermocouples only cost a few dollars, $10 at most. There is nothing special about them, just get one that's long enough. May want to check local home improvement stores. Just ask where the thermocouples are and make sure it's long enough. I'm not sure but I think they all have the same thread connection
It looks like you didn't take the plastic protective sleeve off the end of the gas valve probe that goes in the water heater so if you have a plastic smell or it's not adjusting properly it's most likely because of the protection sleeve the probe.
Manufacturer specifically states DO NOT REMOVE PLASTIC SLEEVE
@@hgffrank I would have thought that would have contaminated the water but I guess that was wrong.
@@buddysmith6861 they use that to prevent buildup on the temp probe.
Any idea where I can get this exact gas valve?
Sorry, it's been years, and it was hard to find even then. If you need this exact valve then go to arv service center and ask for it, they probably have it.
Where did you get the replacement gas valve?
It doesn't matter, because as far as I know it's been discontinued. Now they expect everyone to buy a complete new water heater. Best bet may be finding old campers and getting one used.
If I had to do it again, I would take old one to RV service shop and see if they can match it up with a new one. As long as the thread is the same or adaptable, and the btu ratings are reasonably close, you should be fine.
What’s the name of the replacement sir
Hello my friend where can i buy the valve
They are getting harder to find and the price has doubled or tripled since I bought mine, but here is a link:. www.campingworld.com/valvet-stat-lp-gas-kit-robert-shaw-w-38quot%3B-inlet-outlet-pilot-series-water-heater-15248.html?Campaign%7d&gclid=Cj0KCQiA-eeMBhCpARIsAAZfxZDPITqfgPmvNwSMY76aIItOtx-Y7UM_hu2Gn57W5OIZBL6YIWgyYQIaAnWdEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Hello. This is just exactly video what I am looking for. I have same problem and this will help to resolve. Could you tell me the parts number for ordering? I also replace burner pile. Install cock at drain valve. Thanks.
You will need to Google your water heater model number to find the correct part number. They are specific, and the original part number was subject to recall.
@@hgffrank Hi Frank, Thanks for quick reply. Actually mine is G6A-7 and google advise P/N 91602 (suppose in this video) is fit.
I have hot water and it's about 140 to 145 degrees and I can't seem to adjust the temperature. I don't understand why 🤔 I have the thermostat temperature adjustment dial set on warm, I can turn the dial almost all the way down and it still doesn't adjust the temperature. Turn the dial up/down, nothing. I can't adjust the temperature for the life of me. 😕
Probably have the electric element turned on. My switch is under the sink.
@@hgffrank it's all manual, Atwood 6 gallon propane water heater with a manual control valve and a propane pilot. I replaced the entire pilot light assembly and thermal couple, that's all working great, thermal couple heats up opens the valve and it fires great. I just can't seem to adjust the temperature with the manual thermostat for some reason. I don't understand, I turn the thermostat dial way down and it still seems to run around 140 to 150 degrees. I'm lost at this stage of the game, but thanks for your great video and responding so quick. I don't think it's a faulty valve, I did find the same Robert Shaw on Amazon though.
@@josephnaja good luck. I only mentioned it because mine is gas and electric, but has no regulation ability on the electric side so it's balls to the walls when turned on. Fabulous when several people need to shower, but not so great when it's been left on.
@@hgffrank Thanks man
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Well that was painful. Can’t find the handle for the nut driver, used the wrong Teflon tape, tightened the 90 degree valve and then backed it off and bent the gas line with the adjustable wrench. No wonder it leaked. How not to replace a gas control.
Didn't see anyone offering to do it for me. I got it done, and it worked. Someone else pointed out the Teflon tape, i didn't know at the time and used what i had. Thanks for the comment...lol
Thanks!!!! now I know how to do this myself.