Yeppers ... kinda shows a guy what’s what once the big-boy bars are on both saws ... also demonstrates what a zipped 461 can do (previous video) - if anyone doubts the juice produced , the tape don’t lie !
3 seconds, in a big ole hunk of log, not much difference when you consider that the 660 boasts 1 more pony over the 461, and the 660 has several pounds more to drag around, I own and use both, yet the 461 gets chosen more often than any of the others, simply because of the power to weight
yeah im like 130 pounds and lugging that 660 around all day would not be fun for the little power gain it gives you. most the time the little saw with the 16-inch bar cuts most stuff we do at work. just needed the 32-inch bar on it to cut an oak stump the other day, it was niceee
Finom 1 hi. Because I cannot remember.... If it is orange, then it's one I picked up in the mid/late 90s on the North Oregon coast. If it is black then it's one of the old 181 - 2101s originals from in the 80s. Probably cannot buy the orange one any more and the Husky version has been nla for years. The standard Stihl orange one works well also and you can pick those up at a shop. Thanks for watching.
hey jack, do you know this fabz acres guy is misrepresenting your brand hotsaws101 over on aboristsite? he claims he is your partner and he runs the hotsaws101 east coast franchise. Your name is being drug through the mud with what this clown is doing. He goes by frank rizzo over on aboristsite, might want to check it out and do something about it before all your hard work gets a bad name put with it. Nice work you do btw!
Jack I noticed you having the same interesting experiences as myself with the husky/Oregon sometimes playing its tricks on not immediately relaying a true tension. And then having to adjust again or maybe multiple times after rolling the chain around because it's too tight. And that's with new bars sometimes and sometimes not. I like Oregon chain, Carlton and Stihl but dang the Oregon can be fussy at times. Hope all is well friend!!! Hello from eastern wa
Eric hi. I think you will find the chain will get a fuzz more tight after the bar nuts are cinched down. I have found that all saws act pretty much the same way in that regard. Sometimes, I will get it (another one of those fuzz things) a bit to tight initially. Then, well, you know the drill..... Thanks for watching.
@@northmanlogging2769 Those are not the same. I had several specifically made from saddle leather in the mid '80s - including this one. They last for years. Thanks for watching.
@@fabzacres-blackcat so again even saws. After porting they are still even. 1 multiplied by 1 is still 1. A ported 660 won't be any better than a 461 unless you run a 41" bar in big timber all day. Big waste of money and unnecessary wear on your body lugging it around if you don't have to
Even ? I just watched the video and counted 4.5 sec difference between the 660 and 461 - Your numbers were 4 sec so close enough ... Stock 660 vs Stock 461 useing your numbers is 14% quicker ; my numbers moreso ... That’s with a 32” bar ! Longer bar the margin of victory for the 660 wood be more pronounced !
@@fabzacres-blackcat you can't count tenths of a second on UA-cam. Also 4 seconds is not a big enough gain to justify the extra weight and fuel consumption. Testing a stock 461 with 32 vs 36 there was a 1 second difference so moving up to a 36 from a 33 would still only be 5 second difference. And as I said previously the 461 doesn't lose rpms like the 660 when the air filter starts to plug. All the 660s I've ran I had to bang out the filter 3 times a day in the winter with short hours whereas I clean my 461 once a month. The 461 has many more advantages than a 660 no matter what anyone says or shows
ian martin both saws were bone stock and ran the same bar and chain ... clearly the 660 was (by your numbers 4sec) at least 14% quicker ... When ported the 660 will come alive ! in stock form it’s bmep is low for its displacement as compared to the 461 ... I own / run BOTH saws and run max-flow filters on both as the stock filter system on BOTH saws is inferior to the max flow ... really don’t know how you run your 461 for a month without cleaning your filter ? I’d be checking for fines in the carb throat ... sawdust WILL kill a saw ! Fabz Out !
I wish I had any amount of wood to cut. I can’t even feed my 362. Wish I had some wood to justify a 661
Yeppers ... kinda shows a guy what’s what once the big-boy bars are on both saws ... also demonstrates what a zipped 461 can do (previous video) - if anyone doubts the juice produced , the tape don’t lie !
3 seconds, in a big ole hunk of log, not much difference when you consider that the 660 boasts 1 more pony over the 461, and the 660 has several pounds more to drag around, I own and use both, yet the 461 gets chosen more often than any of the others, simply because of the power to weight
yeah im like 130 pounds and lugging that 660 around all day would not be fun for the little power gain it gives you. most the time the little saw with the 16-inch bar cuts most stuff we do at work. just needed the 32-inch bar on it to cut an oak stump the other day, it was niceee
I have a 25 inch bar on mine with a full comp chain that thing is a beast! It burns threw red oak like a champ! Wouldn't put any longer bar on it.
The 660 sounds pretty smooth.
Nice tool pouch and the saws are dang good also.
What type of screwdriver are you using? Do you have a link or picture of it? I have a MS462. Thank you.
Finom 1 hi.
Are you talking about the scrwench? If so, any decent saw shop on the West Coast should have one like it.
Thanks for watching.
Yes the one for the carb. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with the world!!!
Finom 1 hi.
Because I cannot remember....
If it is orange, then it's one I picked up in the mid/late 90s on the North Oregon coast. If it is black then it's one of the old 181 - 2101s originals from in the 80s.
Probably cannot buy the orange one any more and the Husky version has been nla for years.
The standard Stihl orange one works well also and you can pick those up at a shop.
Thanks for watching.
Finom1 you can pick up a carb screwdriver from any lawnmower shop or stihl dealer ... it’s just a small flat head
hey jack, do you know this fabz acres guy is misrepresenting your brand hotsaws101 over on aboristsite? he claims he is your partner and he runs the hotsaws101 east coast franchise. Your name is being drug through the mud with what this clown is doing. He goes by frank rizzo over on aboristsite, might want to check it out and do something about it before all your hard work gets a bad name put with it. Nice work you do btw!
bob weaver ohhh jeez...hopefully he’s stopped
I got a 660. 36. Carb. Wouldn't mind hoping it up
Everyone loves the 461 an 462 should I trade my 661c for one I have two 440 magnums and lov e them but I havent ever ran a 461 or 462
I also have a husky 272 xp I believe that is about the same saw in comparison
461 with a 32 is painfully slow in hardwoods
I have no problems with mine in hard wood
I'm using a 28' bar stock 461 with ported muffler' kicks ass //
Always enjoy the head-to-head videos, thanks for posting.
Jack I noticed you having the same interesting experiences as myself with the husky/Oregon sometimes playing its tricks on not immediately relaying a true tension. And then having to adjust again or maybe multiple times after rolling the chain around because it's too tight. And that's with new bars sometimes and sometimes not. I like Oregon chain, Carlton and Stihl but dang the Oregon can be fussy at times. Hope all is well friend!!! Hello from eastern wa
Eric hi. I think you will find the chain will get a fuzz more tight after the bar nuts are cinched down. I have found that all saws act pretty much the same way in that regard. Sometimes, I will get it (another one of those fuzz things) a bit to tight initially. Then, well, you know the drill.....
Thanks for watching.
I thought I heard you mention a 441 your last video but it got dark before you could run it. Still going to show it ?
Austin hi. I'm waiting to hear back from the owner before posting anything on his saw as a courtesy. Thanks for watching.
How are the Oregon light weight bars vs. Stihl light weight bar .as in durability and weight
Blain hi.
They weigh less and are much more flexible.
They have softer rails. As a result, they wear out quicker.
Thanks for watching.
thank you for the reply
First
Isn't a 660 7.1 horsepower?
N pearl hi. Not according to what I heard and read for years. Thanks for watching.
Good Stuff!
Wish you were closer where did you get your wedge pouch?
baileysonline.com or Madsens.com
@@northmanlogging2769 Those are not the same. I had several specifically made from saddle leather in the mid '80s - including this one. They last for years.
Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 see what I get for assuming...
90 cc to 76 cc
Makes me miss my ms661 ...just a pure beast
660 2:34-3:02 461 8:00-8:31
27 seconds and 31 seconds
Yeppers
@@fabzacres-blackcat so again even saws. After porting they are still even. 1 multiplied by 1 is still 1. A ported 660 won't be any better than a 461 unless you run a 41" bar in big timber all day. Big waste of money and unnecessary wear on your body lugging it around if you don't have to
Even ? I just watched the video and counted 4.5 sec difference between the 660 and 461 - Your numbers were 4 sec so close enough ... Stock 660 vs Stock 461 useing your numbers is 14% quicker ; my numbers moreso ... That’s with a 32” bar ! Longer bar the margin of victory for the 660 wood be more pronounced !
@@fabzacres-blackcat you can't count tenths of a second on UA-cam. Also 4 seconds is not a big enough gain to justify the extra weight and fuel consumption. Testing a stock 461 with 32 vs 36 there was a 1 second difference so moving up to a 36 from a 33 would still only be 5 second difference. And as I said previously the 461 doesn't lose rpms like the 660 when the air filter starts to plug. All the 660s I've ran I had to bang out the filter 3 times a day in the winter with short hours whereas I clean my 461 once a month. The 461 has many more advantages than a 660 no matter what anyone says or shows
ian martin both saws were bone stock and ran the same bar and chain ... clearly the 660 was (by your numbers 4sec) at least 14% quicker ... When ported the 660 will come alive ! in stock form it’s bmep is low for its displacement as compared to the 461 ... I own / run BOTH saws and run max-flow filters on both as the stock filter system on BOTH saws is inferior to the max flow ... really don’t know how you run your 461 for a month without cleaning your filter ? I’d be checking for fines in the carb throat ... sawdust WILL kill a saw ! Fabz Out !