The MCU DESTROYING characters for 11 minutes.

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  • @julianpagano1659
    @julianpagano1659 Рік тому +1858

    I will NEVER stop hating Disney for what they've done to The Hulk...

    • @Publicenemy85
      @Publicenemy85 Рік тому +67

      Are you kidding me? Hulk comes off a a freakin Chad compared to what they did Thor.

    • @YoutubeBlobMcFish
      @YoutubeBlobMcFish Рік тому +119

      @@Publicenemy85 all the men got pushed into the dirt and got stomped on by their women counterparts ( even black widow got stomped into the ground ) as a women myself i don't wanna be represented as a better version of a man, i want to have men and women work together.
      and they basically showed us that thor had ptsd from thanos but they played it for laughs. and with she-hulk i don't want to have that giving women empowerment. but the only superhero i started off hating and ended up loving is spiderman ( tom holland ) i hated him because i thought his superhero life was too easy because he had stark to back him up and give him all the tools like the suit, but at the end of no way home im glad the world forgot he was spiderman only because he needed that but emotional blow that we see in other spider man movies

    • @acegardianarocrat
      @acegardianarocrat Рік тому +57

      @@UA-camBlobMcFish this, as a woman myself, I hate the woke marvel
      another example is how WandaVision would've been perfect as a fallen hero story, and they were doing just that but in the end they chickened out and kept excusing Wanda's actions. Let her be a villain, we really need well written villains now more than ever. WandaVision should've been her villain origin story instead of "Oh she read the Darkhold offscreen"

    • @julianpagano1659
      @julianpagano1659 Рік тому +21

      @@Publicenemy85 No fucking way, out of the two of them Hulk definetely had it worse!

    • @MasterAmerica
      @MasterAmerica Рік тому +14

      That's another one of the reasons why I hate Disney

  • @proximacentauri3342
    @proximacentauri3342 Рік тому +1185

    Now this is why Thanos tried snapping half the universe, so that we wouldn’t have to witness the plethora of garbage that is phase 4.

    • @deadpooldan9862
      @deadpooldan9862 Рік тому +7

      Luckily, we live in a universe where, overall, most Phase 4 projects were good, not worse than any movie in the Infinity Saga

    • @Raihan__4535
      @Raihan__4535 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@deadpooldan9862really?you like the multiverse of madness

    • @proximacentauri3342
      @proximacentauri3342 10 місяців тому +30

      @@deadpooldan9862 multiverse of madness was trash, Ant Man Quantumania was trash and the only positive thing about Thor Love and Thunder was Christian Bale playing Gorr and Chris Hemsworth. The only good projects in Phase 4 was Spider Man No Way Home.

    • @deadpooldan9862
      @deadpooldan9862 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Raihan__4535 yeah, it was a good movie

    • @deadpooldan9862
      @deadpooldan9862 10 місяців тому +1

      @@proximacentauri3342 there were no bad MCU movies or shows in Phase 4 or 5 except She Hulk

  • @6thgraderfriends
    @6thgraderfriends Рік тому +1405

    Loki's reflexes are fast enough to catch an speeding arrow while traveling through the air at a high rate of speed but he can't dodge a time cop's baton. Come on now.

    • @realmofloredor
      @realmofloredor  Рік тому +224

      Just rewatched The Avengers recently (brilliant film) and man Loki had some serious screen presence in that movie.

    • @ryanstokes7790
      @ryanstokes7790 Рік тому +112

      And the person who swung the baton did it so slow, he wouldn’t need those fast reflexes 😂

    • @thegloriousryan8981
      @thegloriousryan8981 11 місяців тому +46

      I hate that loki died in infinity war the way he did. It would be so cool for there to be an ALLIED trickster in infinity war and endgame, but I guess the writers saw it as too high of a task and instead decided to pile on more Thor trauma.

    • @6thgraderfriends
      @6thgraderfriends 11 місяців тому +39

      @@thegloriousryan8981I saw someone online joke that he was killed because he would definitely steal the time stone and wouldn't hesitate to kill Vision.

    • @GoodyNerdEdits54
      @GoodyNerdEdits54 8 місяців тому

      But he was caught of guard too btw

  • @erodoujinshilover2811
    @erodoujinshilover2811 Рік тому +653

    Being a fan of the MCU during endgame and before is like being a fan of breathing
    Being a fan of the MCU in 2023 is like being a fan of swallowing Nuclear fission waste
    Remember when in the MCU hero entrances and lines were cool now it just makes you go: "what the hell is this"

    • @ccelite3782
      @ccelite3782 Рік тому +41

      Iron Man's entrance in Avengers is unforgettable.
      "Agent Romanoff... you miss me?"

    • @ZyliceLiddell
      @ZyliceLiddell Рік тому +4

      *ABSOLUTELY!*

    • @user-og4pj7de3i
      @user-og4pj7de3i 7 місяців тому +10

      And then Jane Foster says "eat my hammer". That was just *stupid*.

    • @MrLorje
      @MrLorje 4 місяці тому +1

      this is one of the best things I've ever read, I can't stop laughing, thank you

    • @toasted2807
      @toasted2807 3 місяці тому

      >Assuming that everyone liked the MCU
      No.

  • @lateam9786
    @lateam9786 10 місяців тому +384

    I’m an expert at controlling my anger while getting angry and yelling and displaying the exact opposite

    • @matthewnation1294
      @matthewnation1294 4 місяці тому +10

      So said the hormonal angry lady. Who thought anyone wanted to watch our beloved heros passing torches just to have these mundane stories told (trying to relate to the audience) because the core element of why we were there in the first place has been abandoned. Literally the whole reason to watch anything of the sort(superhero movies) is supposed to be an escape away from our reality; I can't help but be glad Stan didn't have to see this. He'd be furious if he saw what it's becoming. They only destroyed his legacy... it's not over yet but they're on thin ice now.. I can't mindless follow marvel after some of this new slop

    • @katsukibakugou7878
      @katsukibakugou7878 3 місяці тому +11

      ​@@matthewnation1294 and honestly, even as a escape, Stan Lee manages to teach some truth and good things.
      Here goes some examples:
      With Captain America, doesn't matter how weak you are and feel, doesn't matter if the world pushes down and try to kill you, keep being a good person, for what's good.
      With Iron Man: feeling low is ok, but don't let it take over you. You have a talent, everyone has one. And also, money isn't everything, but if used correctly, it can be good.
      With Hulk: rage is a flame which you need to control. It consumes and destroys, but also can fuel you to keep fightning. If used correctly, rage can be a strength.
      With Thor: no amount of honour and power is equal to the true worthy of being a good person, even if the world hates you for it.
      Even as a escape, Stan Lee managed to teach some truth. And now, even with relatable problems, Marvel is SOMEHOW screwing it all up.

    • @amaranthia0320
      @amaranthia0320 19 днів тому +2

      @@katsukibakugou7878 Exactly. Moral lessons work best when they're implied secondhand, not shoved in your face every five minutes. Human beings don't like being told what to do. We like watching the heroes we look up to doing it first, and following on from that. All the things you listed are lessons implied throughout the films through the characters' actions and decisions and journeys. This style of film used to be so common, I have no idea why it's been replaced with soulless flashy slop. I'm literally under 20 but can recognise this change; it is a very recent one, and sucks so bad

  • @valenciasainz
    @valenciasainz Рік тому +329

    *_"We need to stop calling them terrorist."_*
    A True Black American Falcon Feather Man

    • @nicksojka7457
      @nicksojka7457 4 місяці тому +7

      That is the most Ryan George way of saying that ever

    • @ItsJae_37
      @ItsJae_37 2 місяці тому +2

      that made me not like sam anymore

  • @Gojirawars03
    @Gojirawars03 4 місяці тому +110

    Jennifer: “When I’m catcalled on the street…”
    Bruce: “I got low. I didn’t see an end. So I put a bullet in my mouth and The Other Guy spit it out.”

    • @DANGARJOR
      @DANGARJOR 3 місяці тому +10

      Who would even catcall that skinny flat tire? 😂

  • @petrastein2531
    @petrastein2531 Рік тому +640

    Guys, it's official. MCU has morphed into CW.

    • @realmofloredor
      @realmofloredor  Рік тому +90

      Batwoman: “you can kill the person, but not the idea”.

    • @iluvchess14736
      @iluvchess14736 8 місяців тому +9

      whats cw

    • @petrastein2531
      @petrastein2531 8 місяців тому +19

      @@iluvchess14736 You're so lucky, my friend. Let it stay this way. xD

    • @iluvchess14736
      @iluvchess14736 8 місяців тому +8

      @@petrastein2531 ...
      It's culture war isn't it

    • @MatteoBiondillo
      @MatteoBiondillo 7 місяців тому +28

      ​@@iluvchess14736 No, it's the television network that created the Arrowverse

  • @themememaster423
    @themememaster423 4 місяці тому +137

    “I’m a Black man carrying the Stars and Stripes, this is a big deal!”
    Rhodey, who was literally Iron Patriot: “Am I a joke to you?”

    • @Number-gs3rv
      @Number-gs3rv 3 місяці тому +4

      I think that's more of a commentary about holding one of the highest mantles possible (obviously War Machine is a huge title, but Captain America is in another echelon)

    • @JavierGarduno-jm2lv
      @JavierGarduno-jm2lv 2 місяці тому +1

      ~Stark stood for himself & his image.
      ~While Cap stood for everyone & America!
      So yea Rhodey cant compare to what Sam can do. 💪🏻

    • @creepycooter8370
      @creepycooter8370 2 місяці тому

      @@JavierGarduno-jm2lvyou're slow

  • @spritezilla_the_bebop
    @spritezilla_the_bebop Рік тому +181

    Really disappointing that Phase 4 basically turned Thor from a cool, serious god to a “lol quirky” bumbling idiot

  • @karansahu342
    @karansahu342 Рік тому +370

    New MCU is pretty much fucked, a very little proportion of faith remains.

    • @ElAssoWipe-o
      @ElAssoWipe-o 7 місяців тому +15

      It went from mediocre to down-right $hit.

    • @Logan.209
      @Logan.209 6 місяців тому +6

      Our only hope is that they keep making movies with Rocket Raccoon, he’s my favorite, and I know they’re making one with Quill, I hope it’ll be good.

    • @arcyarcanine
      @arcyarcanine 4 місяці тому +5

      Ironically the least powerful veterans have the better stories going on for phase 4. Well... not counting Black Widow, obviously.

  • @justssharma
    @justssharma Рік тому +266

    stan lee be punching the clouds and crying the rain..

  • @substandardeagle4738
    @substandardeagle4738 2 місяці тому +12

    Jane calling herself Thor is like Miles Morales swinging around New York calling himself Peter Parker.

  • @svetlanaandrasova6086
    @svetlanaandrasova6086 Рік тому +129

    Im glad you included Loki. I used to love him. Now he is useless in his own show and whiny and cant fight or use magic to save his life. He should have stayed dead.

    • @controlla25
      @controlla25 Рік тому +16

      Loki is a great show what r u on about. There's also no magic in the tva

    • @realmofloredor
      @realmofloredor  Рік тому +10

      Then why doesn’t Loki return to his frost giant form?

    • @acegardianarocrat
      @acegardianarocrat Рік тому +21

      actually I also didn't like his death in Infinity war that was just bad writing. Like wdym a super smart and cunning character decides to stab thanos from the front? Especially when he knows what thanos is capable of given his encounter with him pre-avengers 2012. I was expecting some elaborate masterminded plan but nope

    • @6thgraderfriends
      @6thgraderfriends Рік тому +10

      @@acegardianarocratYeah I didn't like his death either but his show really didn't do him any better.

    • @acegardianarocrat
      @acegardianarocrat Рік тому +11

      @@6thgraderfriends I'd argue season 2 was really good but if you're talking about season 1 then you're absolutely right. Like it's one thing being not able to use magic (which presents as a plot device for character development, like in Cars and Thor 1 movies where protag is stuck somewhere) but it's another thing being completely useless to show strong female characters better *cough* sylvie *cough* Sif *cough*
      Season 2 not only did make Loki the main character: he wasn't using much magic but most decisions were made by him and take centre stage, but also had Sylvie accept her mistake and go back to him. It wasn't woke it was good writing

  • @MrCacheo
    @MrCacheo Рік тому +240

    I think Endgames Thor is one of closest times that Marvel has ever been to portraying a serious
    topic, that and Winter Soldier.

    • @TrexAintaChicken
      @TrexAintaChicken 9 місяців тому +32

      Ah yes, by putting Thor in a fat suit and turning him into a punch line. Foh

    • @Lp-army1
      @Lp-army1 8 місяців тому +14

      Fat suit=not serious now? Ever heard of depression ​@@TrexAintaChicken

    • @illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon
      @illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon 7 місяців тому +11

      ​@@Lp-army1Big Lebowski joke = depression now?

    • @vrs2236
      @vrs2236 7 місяців тому

      yes. Mcu fans are dumb!

    • @АртурАртуров-ф4ю
      @АртурАртуров-ф4ю 6 місяців тому +2

      Tony in IM2 and 3 as well.

  • @TheJediApprentice
    @TheJediApprentice Рік тому +160

    You forgot fury. Maybe it wasn't out yet, but secret invasion might actually be the worst assassination of a legacy character I've ever seen.

    • @Right_Bumper
      @Right_Bumper 11 місяців тому +59

      Captain Marvel destroyed him too
      "The last time I trusted somebody I lost an eye"
      Yet it tries to convince us he got his eye scratched out by a cat

    • @ItsJae_37
      @ItsJae_37 2 місяці тому +1

      ikr... i used to think nick fury was super cool :(

  • @euthyphro8935
    @euthyphro8935 Рік тому +386

    I remember Loki taking the stiffest right hook from Captain America, a super soldier, and he shrugged it off, because he's a God of course, but some chick with a baton, and seemingly no super human abilities was able to sleep him? That was the MOMENT, I started to realized the MCU was getting worse and worse post Endgame (The Spiderman Epilogues were fine though... Guardians 3 also gets a pass).

    • @realmofloredor
      @realmofloredor  Рік тому +63

      Don’t forget he survived a beat down from the hulk.

    • @euthyphro8935
      @euthyphro8935 Рік тому +37

      @@realmofloredor Agreed. But that beatdown floored him. I'm of the belief that a right hook from Captain America probably has more impact than a baton from a time cop. We're supposed to believe that a chick with a Baton could sleep Loki. And I know we're probably not counting the What If show, but remember in the last episode Black Widow floored Loki with a kick and she's objectively weaker than Captain America?? Today's writers don't care at all about anything that came before.

    • @realmofloredor
      @realmofloredor  Рік тому +31

      Oh I 100% agree there’s no way in hell Loki should be getting beat by those time cops (remember female Loki killed several of them with ease). I was just referencing other times where his durability was tested. Like you said he got the upper hand against Captain America, fought on par with Thor, and although he got floored by Hulk he still survived. Writing continuity is sidelined by the current MCU unfortunately.

    • @euthyphro8935
      @euthyphro8935 Рік тому +9

      @@realmofloredor Yeah, we agree, glad you have a channel like this calling it out. Hopefully they'll change. If they don't, try to direct your audience toward better projects you find that puts good storytelling over pushing some kind of vapid message.

    • @controlla25
      @controlla25 Рік тому +3

      Gotta watch Loki bruv he got hit w tva weaponry

  • @HowardDeAlvarado
    @HowardDeAlvarado Рік тому +400

    I'm surprised you were able to trim this down to only 11 minutes. It should really be hours long.

    • @Wolffman109
      @Wolffman109 Рік тому +12

      If he makes a sequel or two, I will also watch them.

    • @Shry99
      @Shry99 4 місяці тому +2

      Well you know, putting the entire movies on UA-cam goes against copyright lol

  • @Wolffman109
    @Wolffman109 Рік тому +319

    Don't forget Winter Soldier. What was once the most feared assassin in the world is now somebody who regularly gets his ass handed to him by people who absolutely should not be able to take him.

    • @slasherfilmz
      @slasherfilmz 8 місяців тому +16

      i do think that he constantly is holding back to avoid hurting others.

    • @Wolffman109
      @Wolffman109 8 місяців тому +59

      @@slasherfilmz While that might be the case, Marvel's recent track record of destroying all of their male heroes leads me to be more cynical. Besides, even if he WAS holding back, he should still be able to take these suckers no problem.

    • @Mia199603
      @Mia199603 8 місяців тому +46

      I also didn't like how the Dora Milage took away his freaking ARM without his consent. That's so dehumanizing, humiliating. He wasn't even a threat at the moment, not really.
      In every sense of the word he is disabled. That's like kicking the wheelchair from underneath someone who has no legs, for fun. I get that his arm is also a weapon, but they could've handled it better. Not only did they put some safeguards to use against him, presumably without his knowledge (which... isn't much better than how Hydra treated him..), but they've chosen them to be THIS. They could've powered the arm down so it has the strength of a his other, flesh and blood arm, or something... He'd still be strong because supersoldier serum and stuff, but that would've been understandable from a strategic point of view. The way it is it's just cruel and encroaches on a heavily traumatized man's bodily autonomy. And WS was already an apt allegory of a r*ped woman both in how his abusers and the world treated him, so wtf does that say about Wakandans, that they knew the full extent of his trauma, and still decided to treat him this way? It also reeks of conditional charity, which is also a pretty disgusting concept in of its own: we can help you, but it comes at a price of your undying gratitude and obedience. What?????

    • @slasherfilmz
      @slasherfilmz 8 місяців тому +4

      @@Mia199603 Preach

    • @Wolffman109
      @Wolffman109 8 місяців тому +27

      @@Mia199603 Even before TFatWS, I had a very apathetic opinion toward Wakanda (with the obvious exception of Chadwick Boseman's T'Challa, RIP), but their attitudes and behavior in this show (especially to Bucky Barnes and John Walker), not to mention the casual racism towards white men they engage in, made me actively hate them.

  • @electric_chris
    @electric_chris Рік тому +94

    "They're killing themselves."
    - Okoye, Infinity War

  • @bjrl703
    @bjrl703 Рік тому +522

    I feel like I'm the only one who thought that Thor's character wasn't destroyed in endgame. He lost everything and feels like it's his fault so I think it's logical for him to become depressed, and then him fighting at the end and being himself again, winning against depression is a pretty impactful moment to me. I just didn't like how it was treated ike a joke, and of course I hated his character in Thor 4 because it was illogical and fucking atrocious

    • @realmofloredor
      @realmofloredor  Рік тому +184

      So I wouldn’t say that his character was destroyed in Endgame, but as soon as I saw fat Thor, I understood the direction that the MCU would take with him going forward. It was an early warning sign.

    • @lol311
      @lol311 Рік тому +72

      ​@@realmofloredorand you're proven right in Love and thunder

    • @Sarah_H
      @Sarah_H Рік тому +121

      The biggest gripe I had about Fat Thor was not with Thor himself, it was how the writers treated it as a joke. "Haha! He's fat! Nevermind the psychological and emotional trauma he's just been through and the immense guilt he harbors over Thanos' victory! He's FAT! It's funny!"

    • @tyrionlannister9917
      @tyrionlannister9917 Рік тому +32

      @@Sarah_H Endgame is perhaps the biggest waste of the MCU. Oh sure they made ton of money but after Infinity War they could have made a film so better than that. The first 20 minutes are by far the best. You actually see Thor being broken after losing against Thanos. But as soon as they made the timeskip it was just pure MCU joke. Fat Thor was bad, really bad. And 2 hours of the film was just a best of or the precedent films. Infinity War was the peak of the MCU. Since then it's really rough.

    • @Sarah_H
      @Sarah_H Рік тому +15

      ​@@tyrionlannister9917 I can't watch Endgame now without getting assmad about the time travel that makes no damn sense even within its own universe. If they'd been travelling to alternate dimensions/multiverses to get the Infinity Stones, and multiverse-counterparts of Nebula/Gamora/Thanos/Thanos' entire Goddamn army were the ones traveling to the Sacred Timeline instead of past versions of them, then FINE, that's FINE, but then Disney+ Loki came out and crapped all over Endgame's time travel with "akshually the Infinity Stones still functioning means that they had to have come from the same timeline, so it really WAS like Back To The Future time travel and past-Nebula and past-Thanos dying in the future should have just ripped open the time-space continuum, but it didn't because Big Dumb Superhero Movie and Q U A N T U M"

  • @Teriyakihandgrenade
    @Teriyakihandgrenade 7 місяців тому +26

    So Loki can go toe to toe with Thor. But a Space cop can sleep him

  • @DeltaBlazin
    @DeltaBlazin 9 місяців тому +51

    "Mighty Thor" sounds like such an insecure name. "Oh, no. I'm better than that MALE Thor, I'm MIGHTY Thor!" You can't expect me to take that seriously, they should have given her a different name.

    • @darksideofevil13
      @darksideofevil13 5 місяців тому +8

      To be fair, male Thor is also called Mighty Thor. But it is weird she just straight up jacked his whole identity.

    • @TroutShoveler
      @TroutShoveler 3 місяці тому +2

      @@darksideofevil13Identify theft is not a joke Jim! Millions of families suffer every year!

    • @oranjpeel
      @oranjpeel 3 місяці тому +1

      They could’ve called her Mighty Jane or something. It’s such a simple fix. I seriously don’t know what is wrong with many of the people who work at Marvel nowadays.

    • @darksideofevil13
      @darksideofevil13 3 місяці тому

      @@TroutShoveler Michael!

    • @venu6286
      @venu6286 2 місяці тому

      Nah it kinda seems like you are insecure.

  • @lucaliliahidas5738
    @lucaliliahidas5738 Рік тому +57

    6:36 when you have not one, not two, but three punchlines that sounded good in your head but you couldn't decide which one it should be.

  • @LexLuthorOutletverse
    @LexLuthorOutletverse 7 місяців тому +89

    Wanda in MoM is the hard example. The writer just turns her evil out of fucking nowhere

    • @Keollyn
      @Keollyn 3 місяці тому +3

      I wonder why so many people see Wanda like this? It wasn't random or out of nowhere. We literally got this potential descent for Wanda in WandaVision. Her delving deeper into the the Darkhold was clearly going to corrupt her, so people being shocked that Wanda went "evil" seem to forget that very important detail

    • @oranjpeel
      @oranjpeel 3 місяці тому

      I know people say MoM did damage to Wanda’s character, but I’d argue WandaVision did more. At least in MoM she was under the influence of the Darkhold.

    • @MarinetteDupainCheng564
      @MarinetteDupainCheng564 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Keollyn
      Easy, not everyone seems to have Disney+. or Watched WandaVision. lol

    • @Keollyn
      @Keollyn 2 місяці тому

      @@MarinetteDupainCheng564 Then why watch a movie that's premise is based on it?

    • @MarinetteDupainCheng564
      @MarinetteDupainCheng564 2 місяці тому

      @@Keollyn You talking with someone who watched Iron Man 3 before Avengers. lol
      they read Doctor Strange Madness of Multiverse, and they expected DOCTOR STRANGE Madness of Multiverse.
      And not a female villain
      being whiny about 2 kids who never have been real and killing of characters like Fan Favorites Charles Xavier and the longtime requested Reed Richards actor.
      and by how the MCU handles female characters since Captain Marvel. it kinda made sense.

  • @bluebloo9955
    @bluebloo9955 Рік тому +93

    They should’ve left Thanos to do his thing

  • @antoniistark16
    @antoniistark16 6 місяців тому +29

    Thor 4 even almost got a scene where Thor reacts to a dead person and says stupidly that he is sleeping with his eyes open. The fact that that scene was shot and edited and almost made it into the movie shows how much they care about MCU now.

  • @vedji1857
    @vedji1857 4 місяці тому +12

    Honestly after everything he's been through, Thor having a panic attack is understandable.
    But the fact they made it a "funny" scene is what wastes it.

  • @TOONYBOY
    @TOONYBOY 3 місяці тому +6

    I'm sorry, but Hulk's "Big monster?!" line will always be one of my favourite MCU jokes

  • @_Tzer
    @_Tzer 4 місяці тому +15

    Hulk got it the worst cuz the origins of his powers are literally rooted in childhood trauma and they are acting like she-hulk has it worse.. in the comics its meant to parralel, becoming green was a horrible curse for him but a blessing for her and was one of the things earlier on that made him realise the curse wasnt entirely horrible as it saved his cousin's life. and eventually overtime lead to the bruce-hulk dynamic becoming more stable probably the healthiest way to deal with the hulk tbh rather than trying to kill them off or take them over completely.

    • @Dullahan161
      @Dullahan161 3 місяці тому +2

      Hulk was abused as a child, turned into a monster, hunted by the government for years and tried to kill himself but he was never catcalled by men 💅✊

    • @_Tzer
      @_Tzer 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Dullahan161 kinda hillarious as before she became she hulk she was in the comics meek, and considered herself unattractive. that line is out of character if it was the same she hulk from the comics.

  • @vadamsvengeance3219
    @vadamsvengeance3219 Рік тому +34

    still can't believe all the people that shill for the Loki show

  • @verified_JC_Denton
    @verified_JC_Denton 3 місяці тому +8

    They did Thor SO dirty in Endgame and beyond, but really it started with Ragnarok. We just couldn't see it then.

  • @legoangrybirds8630
    @legoangrybirds8630 Рік тому +52

    I really hated how he was turned into a joke in Endgame!

    • @realmofloredor
      @realmofloredor  Рік тому +7

      I knew at the time what they did to Hulk and Thor would not be isolated to that one movie.

    • @legoangrybirds8630
      @legoangrybirds8630 Рік тому +9

      Thor was both equally comedic and serious in Ragnarok and infinity war.
      But in endgame he is treated like a joke and doesn’t get a payoff with thanos after what happened in infinity war.

  • @jacksonnettleingham4990
    @jacksonnettleingham4990 4 місяці тому +12

    0:41 - At least someone is giving Captain America: Civil War the respect it deserves! It is more than just Avengers 2.5! It is an introspection into who Steve is, what drives him, how far he is willing to go, and how his ideology clashes with everyone around him, especially with Tony. Just because someone is the protagonist does not mean he is 100% in the right, and this film is one of the best examples of that.

  • @SuperJeffyJunior
    @SuperJeffyJunior Рік тому +83

    I honestly was really hyped for She-Hulk cause any Hulk is my favourite. But when it came out it’s clear that no one liked but I really wanted to like it.. but I don’t think anyone can

    • @realmofloredor
      @realmofloredor  Рік тому +29

      It’s a shame because the She-Hulk comic’s were good, you had a far better Jennifer Walters, and her superhero origin was neat. It showed a strong relationship between her and Bruce.

    • @lilam7851
      @lilam7851 Рік тому +18

      Yeah, the whole "I DO IT INFINITELY MORE THAN YOU" kinda proved his point. Which wasn't even him being an ass. He was just giving advice.

    • @seanquek3231
      @seanquek3231 Рік тому

      Never trust morons to deliver good work

    • @seanquek3231
      @seanquek3231 Рік тому

      Never trust morons to deliver good work

    • @MarvinPowell1
      @MarvinPowell1 11 місяців тому +9

      @SuperJeffyJunior
      Same. She Hulk is my favorite female Marvel character and I was angry when Alison Brie didn't get cast because, besides not being 5'10". she's perfect for the role. But she dodged a giant green bullet here. She Hulk is literally the worst show I've ever seen in my life, and that's maybe only because I've never watched Velma or The Witcher Blood Origin.

  • @A_rAndom_p3rs.n
    @A_rAndom_p3rs.n 2 місяці тому +7

    We’re honestly lucky that Tony and Cap died in Endgame. It prevented Disney from ruining their characters.

    • @redshot5403
      @redshot5403 Місяць тому

      Agreed, they would have gone through toxic masculinity

  • @GingerZombie29
    @GingerZombie29 3 місяці тому +5

    Steve closing that huge wound by fastening the belt on the shield is damn awesome.

  • @Cuh-bruh
    @Cuh-bruh 4 місяці тому +13

    Iron Man did not die for this shit 😭🙏🏻

  • @metalhead8659
    @metalhead8659 Рік тому +30

    0:17. "Is this like a personal attack or something...?!" Now it definitely is!!!

  • @valenciasainz
    @valenciasainz Рік тому +65

    Captain Black Falcon not knowing what terrorism is is the most realistic writing ever.

    • @abraham2172
      @abraham2172 Рік тому

      What is that supposed to mean? That black people dont know what terrorism is?

    • @strikebomber2944
      @strikebomber2944 8 місяців тому +12

      this sounds very racist

    • @2000s_princess
      @2000s_princess 4 місяці тому +2

      Exactly

    • @ItsJae_37
      @ItsJae_37 2 місяці тому

      @@strikebomber2944 lol

  • @MrJoelMiller
    @MrJoelMiller 4 місяці тому +7

    I respect falcon and all as Captain America, but what he said about stop calling them terrorists, yeah he should’ve not said that, because like no matter what he saw, them exploding buildings and killing people, that’s the legal definition of terrorism 💀

  • @taleoftwowolves74
    @taleoftwowolves74 8 місяців тому +12

    Endgame Thor was good as a representation of Thor's depression and self loathing and it gave Chris Hemsworth a chance to do something different. The fatal mistake was taking 'comedy Thor' and removing any form of intensity, emotional nuance or badassery and fully making him a kiddy joke character.

  • @MarceloVeronezzi
    @MarceloVeronezzi Рік тому +18

    This video deserves way more views than the current number. The editing is great.

  • @leonarduskrisna4588
    @leonarduskrisna4588 4 місяці тому +6

    man Captain America know he lose
    but still he standing when in front of him is literally legions of Thanos Soldier
    really a cinematic for MCU History

  • @Howlabunga
    @Howlabunga 8 місяців тому +11

    Rest in Peace Stark, Stan Lee, and the MCU

  • @JCTBomb
    @JCTBomb 11 місяців тому +28

    Disney has chosen to spend millions to appease the most sensitive, ungrateful and ignorant of their fanbase, and they are paying the price, literally.

  • @rosapower7880
    @rosapower7880 4 місяці тому +15

    Disney first destroyed George Lucas’ masterpiece of Star Wars with a storyline that made absolutely no sense and then Marvel by killing off all the good characters which clearly destroyed Stan Lee’s creation. I am a Star Wars Legends fan and a fan of the storyline of the Marvel comics that are not owned by Disney. Then again, there are mostly always someone dying in a Disney movie which is utterly creepy.
    I will always love the Avengers 2012 movie because that time I had hope that we would see more of our childhood heroes face off new enemies and see events which were based in the comics. Too bad none of this happened because of Disney. 😕

  • @Erenisasimp
    @Erenisasimp 10 місяців тому +8

    This was the exact reason why sir Stan Lee came between movie scenes and at the shooting set

  • @enderethan144
    @enderethan144 4 місяці тому +13

    And this is why we can never ever forgive Disney. They have completely butchered Hulk, no wonder Edward Norton refused to come back to reprise his role of Hulk, he knew the character of Hulk and knew that Disney would ruin him, in fact those who made The Incredible Hulk (2008 movie aka the only serious marvel movie ever with extremely toned down comedy) were legit Hulk fans, and for those who wonder why we haven’t had a Hulk solo movie since 2008 is because universal has the rights to make one but they’re is no chance in hell that Universal will let Disney make one.
    The MCU is shit and always has been since Disney fucked everything up.

  • @Logan.Massie
    @Logan.Massie Рік тому +34

    6:18 that would have been really helpful in Infinity War

    • @realmofloredor
      @realmofloredor  Рік тому +12

      Hell even as far back as the first Avenger’s movie.

  • @liamdenise246
    @liamdenise246 11 місяців тому +20

    Worst things MCU has done to its characters/worst new heroes:
    1) Making Thor love and thunder so incredibly silly and joke filled that none of them are at all concerned about the kids literally held captive in a dark world, Thor is so lighthearted and unburdened you'd think he was pre Thor 1 film where he was the prince of Asgard and just spent his days having fun and fighting battles, having some of the most traumatic shit in the universe made fun of, like Hela who literally is responsible for slaughtering the soldiers of Asgard and driving them into caves for safety, or Infinity stone ice cream, as if this isn't the equivalent of making a hitler themed ice cream store.
    2) She hulk, instead of the comics great character, we get a vapid, arrogant, entitled, selfish lawyer who mocks the avengers despite them literally saving the universe and earth several times including from Thanos who was about to shred the universe and end everyone on earth, refuses to take cases unless they pay tons, is such a bad lawyer she doesn't even ask for basic details from her client about what happened, catfishes people, fakes being a avenger so she can get free clothes, does not do any heroics at all and only saves the court jury from Titania upon heavy prodding from her friend, and belittles her cousin despite his many many traumas and hard life and fact he literally willed half of all humanity back in existence, and to top it all off she then uses cheat code to get a incredibly unfair happy ending despite learning nothing, doing nothing heroic or some sacrifice.
    3) Making Sam Wilson kick the dog while it's down by selling the shield to the US after accepting it from Steve who wanted him to have it and be his replacement, then get mad when they make their own replacement, then sympathise with the terrorists so much he genuinely can't understand why John would be mad at Karli for murdering his best friend in cold blood and tells the government not to call them terrorists despite them blowing buildings up, destroying property, stealing, burning innocent people alive, planning to murder a entire convoy of senators just to make a statement And this is after she threatens his sister and her family by saying she might pay a visit and kill them.
    4) Wanda post endgame, they really double down on going "Oh no, she's not a bad person, she's done nothing wrong". Mmm, holding a town hostage under mind control knowingly does not say good person.
    5) Cassie becoming such a unlikeable generic super scientist that she belittles her dad as if he hasn't literally spent 5 years in quantum realm stuck and then had to undo the Snap and fight Thanos.
    6) Riri Williams and Wakanda Forever, she's so smart she can somehow make a vibranium detector with no vibranium, rips off Tony Stark but isn't even a fan of him in MCU, can't get a job but can build a super garage full of shit, she has zero hesitation in shooting cops in the face with beams or blowing them all up on the bridge, like she's got a body count before the film is halfway done, she gets off scot free for these actions and has zero remorse. Meanwhile Namor literally genocides Wakanda, murders the queen and plans to wipe it out, yet apparently Shuri is ok with just allying with him against the world after that, also T'Challa's goal to change and be better and help others is thrown out the window as the Queen just shuts it all down, they refuse to share any vibranium, and are so arrogant and nonsensical in this that they really all accept teaming up with the nation that attacked them, killed their beloved queen and murdered countless people.

  • @DT2xChamp
    @DT2xChamp 8 місяців тому +9

    The MCU died with Iron Man. Endgame was the perfect way to cap it all off. Idk wtf it is now 😂

  • @steroidsteave3539
    @steroidsteave3539 Рік тому +14

    How much longer will we take this crap from Disney? I’m tired of them destroying my child hood characters

  • @englishlady9797
    @englishlady9797 8 місяців тому +27

    Also destroyed by boy Bucky. Their idea of "healing" from PTSD was "you gotta make amends to those people who you killed when you were being brainwashed and mind controlled and forced to hurt against your will dude.... "
    Don't worry though. He gets cured from all his trauma by owning his white privelege and apologizing to Sam for not thinking about it.
    Oh and he breaks the guy who framed him for a terrorist attack out of jail because.... he needs his help to track down HYDRA and doesn't know where to find them. Even though he was held captive by them for 7 decades a few years earlier he remembered the location of the the facility where he was kept. He forgot he was multilingual and can fly pretty much anything. I mean I know Bucky had amnesia but *seriously* Oh and he then betrays the Wakandans who helped him for *reasons*.
    Also dude who beat Captain America's face to a pulp and one yeeted him out of a window, had Black Widor taking cover in fear, left Iron Man gasping helpess on the ground, threw Falcon off a bulding after ripping off his wings, held his own against half the Avengers and even fended off Black Panther - gets his ass kicked by a teenage girl and his arm ripped off by a random black super solider. Cos he's black he's strong than the Winter Soldier, like.

    • @ItsJae_37
      @ItsJae_37 2 місяці тому +1

      that show was so woke. I was very dissapointed. they ruined bucky and sam. But thunderbolts seems to be bringing back cool winter soldier bucky

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 2 місяці тому

      @@ItsJae_37 I mean I *do not* want him to be regressed back to that as it has been such a major part of his arc that he doesn't want to hurt or kill anyone for years now. He can still do cool fights without beign a mindless weapon.

    • @ItsJae_37
      @ItsJae_37 2 місяці тому +1

      @@englishlady9797 yea like in the thunderbolts trailer! i don't think he was mindcontrolled but he was still doing cool "winter soldier" stuff. He had his gun and he flipped a car. He also has his long hair again! I just want cool characters back

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 2 місяці тому

      @@ItsJae_37 Some peoople have looked at that and they think he;s taking down the government vehicles after the Thunderbolts. He;s actually just trying to stop them and rescue them from the government.

  • @Taleux
    @Taleux Рік тому +12

    The “boom, bam bam, bop” killed me 😭😭

  • @captainhowlerwilson508
    @captainhowlerwilson508 Рік тому +33

    I still enjoyed Thor in Endgame because he was went through a lot of shit. I fully agree with Love and Thunder though. That was terrible.

  • @ballerinaonamusicbox
    @ballerinaonamusicbox 10 місяців тому +19

    literally every scene with daredevil in she hulk. i get that they were trying to be comic accurate but changing a character doesnt work when they’re already an established character that has been there for years 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @epsilon6516
      @epsilon6516 6 місяців тому +2

      Yeah remember how he was a Catholic struggling with morality, betrayed by his old love interest, overly protective of his identity to protect those closest to him, and then he has a one night stand and does a walk of shame because feminism. I’m glad his reboot got canceled, dodged a bullet there

  • @magicgarden7519
    @magicgarden7519 Рік тому +21

    Why the hell MCU think that insulting old good characters is the best way of gaining love and respect for new characters. And like they dont even have personality at all. Just some group of arrogant and toxic Mary Sue and self-inserts. Hope Thanos will come back and finish this mess.

    • @deadpooldan9862
      @deadpooldan9862 Рік тому +3

      Meanwhile the males are just as engaging and strong as before, while the females have flaws and weaknesses they overcome, just like the guys

  • @AdrianEN
    @AdrianEN Рік тому +93

    classic MCU

    • @Eviltek2099
      @Eviltek2099 Рік тому +12

      I wish there was some way we could return back to classic MCU Writing.

  • @DirectorCayde
    @DirectorCayde 8 місяців тому +4

    Thats why Thanos snapped the gauntlet to save the Universe from Cringe.

  • @Follower_of_Havel
    @Follower_of_Havel 5 місяців тому +12

    Tony was the only one to have quality all the time.
    And I hope Ironheart dies in the next film

  • @dysfunctionalthor4719
    @dysfunctionalthor4719 9 місяців тому +10

    This is what I’m afraid they’ll do to the X-men

  • @annavickisantana
    @annavickisantana Рік тому +35

    They really did Loki dirty

    • @controlla25
      @controlla25 Рік тому +2

      Watch loki, he got hit tva weaponry and skills dampened with the brace

    • @Charlie08079
      @Charlie08079 Рік тому +6

      @@controlla25 but Sylvie can use magic so it's just them softening loki

    • @Droidekka
      @Droidekka Рік тому

      Honestly I think Loki was the least effected. I understand people’s hate for the Loki show but the character development sorta makes sense 🤷 Though it was way too fast and he definitely should still be more sinister like he was in S2. Can’t say the same for Thor, oh boy 😂 he reversed his character arc from the first movie.
      I feel like most of the other characters they had done dirty; I have a hard time watching ANY of the new movies (except for Guardians of the Galaxy 3 ❤) and it’s really unfortunate..

    • @Charlie08079
      @Charlie08079 Рік тому +6

      I agree with you @@Droidekka I just wish he remained a bit more sinister and didn't just give everything up to become a savior. That's not Loki. The new movies and shows just create opening for loved characters to exit through and never return so that new (awful) characters can have their moment and shine. It's not gonna work though unforutnately. I love soft Loki but Sylvie is very annoying as a character and she's not gonna sit well as the "new loki" which is what Marvel heads are trying to do.

    • @ZyliceLiddell
      @ZyliceLiddell Рік тому +4

      Oh yes. Women beating up and humiliated a God. 🙄

  • @_ebony6795
    @_ebony6795 4 місяці тому +4

    I don't care how much everyone loved End Game, I still believe Antman could've crawled up Thanos's nose/butt and boom.
    Thanos no more

  • @Dctctx
    @Dctctx 29 днів тому +1

    Star lords “you missed the first time” in endgame is definitely one of the worst. It completely undercuts the seriousness and stakes of the final battle

  • @2peasinapod961
    @2peasinapod961 Рік тому +17

    this was surprisingly hilarious

  • @JuanyEdits
    @JuanyEdits 4 місяці тому +8

    i disagree with fat thor being bad, he literally lost everything but korg (his father, his home, his people, his brother, his best friend, his weapon) and for 5 years lived with the guilt of failing the entire universe, hes broken during 99% of endgame

  • @Taaif_Mehadi
    @Taaif_Mehadi Рік тому +5

    Thanos didn’t even need to go through the trouble of the infinity saga…he should’ve just waited for Disney to do his job for him.

  • @lizuryt
    @lizuryt 4 місяці тому +4

    They made Loki better after this

  • @Vexder
    @Vexder 9 місяців тому +1

    "Is this like a personal atta-"~Famous Last Words

  • @matsosa
    @matsosa Місяць тому +1

    We are living through the longest, most depressing era for movies, video games and tv shows. I hope that this nightmare ends soon.

  • @Gojiman54
    @Gojiman54 4 місяці тому +2

    2:21 When you get told to do an exam 😂

    • @account-pb2df
      @account-pb2df 4 місяці тому

      At least you find yourself funny

  • @sedsitametadinterreteliber2937
    @sedsitametadinterreteliber2937 Рік тому +27

    Disney turned the hulk into a sissy

  • @uncleshagworthy
    @uncleshagworthy 11 місяців тому +4

    Is that a personal attack never fails to make me laugh

  • @machoman6969
    @machoman6969 11 місяців тому +3

    In retrospective early thor was annoying . infinity war thor was peak thor.

  • @legomajinbuu
    @legomajinbuu Рік тому +5

    Idk if this is the Stockholm syndrome talking but I really can’t hate on mighty Thor mainly because Natalie Portman was a huge part of my childhood in Star Wars

  • @abishekkarthik9603
    @abishekkarthik9603 7 місяців тому +3

    I love how you added DBZA bits in between

  • @siwap3809
    @siwap3809 Рік тому +9

    it's ok guys, everything after endgame isnt canon 👍

  • @АртурАртуров-ф4ю
    @АртурАртуров-ф4ю 6 місяців тому +2

    For Hulk section, should've started with the Incredible Hulk because he's important too.

  • @huntermoss5479
    @huntermoss5479 Рік тому +28

    What happened to the old MCU?

    • @realmofloredor
      @realmofloredor  Рік тому +25

      “Let the past die, kill it if you have to”
      Unfortunately this is what happens when Disney take over a franchise, with no real interest in crafting good stories. Money making is always the priority with them.
      Hopefully now they’re starting to stumble in the box office, they’ll be forced to take time and care when writing their movies / tv shows.

    • @ZyliceLiddell
      @ZyliceLiddell Рік тому

      Disney.

    • @deadpooldan9862
      @deadpooldan9862 Рік тому +1

      It’s still here, just watch it to be entertained

  • @jobhoevenaars7298
    @jobhoevenaars7298 3 місяці тому +4

    Honestly, as much as this hurts to says. Im glad stan lee is not here t see what they did to our heroes

  • @datboi9539
    @datboi9539 4 місяці тому +1

    Funny how Sam being black wasn't a problem until he got his own series. 😂

    • @fm_0523
      @fm_0523 3 місяці тому +3

      Exactly. Before TFATWS, his skin colour was never brought up, because it wasn't what made his character cool. In TFATWS, a minute doesn't go by without Falcon saying "black".

    • @ItsJae_37
      @ItsJae_37 2 місяці тому +1

      right. him pulling the race card CONSTANTLY in tfatws was SO ANNOYING. it's so obvious they were trying to make that show about some woke racial injustice.... he shoulda just stayed the falcon. Tbh i would prefer john walker as captain america over him.

  • @American-patriot.
    @American-patriot. 7 місяців тому +3

    The characters that died we're the lucky ones

  • @ArcTrooper269
    @ArcTrooper269 Рік тому +1

    Let's not forget how the Bastardize THE MANDARIN, IRON MAN'S ARCHNEMESIS not 1, not 2 BUT 3 TIMES & then made him a weekly episodic villain of another Guy

  • @justrandomstuff6828
    @justrandomstuff6828 4 місяці тому +2

    So the problem with Falcon is that he's black... Did you know there are comic runs about Sam's Captain America? His problem is pretending they're not terrorists!

  • @dwagon3744
    @dwagon3744 4 місяці тому +2

    Ok but the Loki show made him an even better character

    • @IHaveInsomnia333
      @IHaveInsomnia333 2 місяці тому +1

      The loki show was peak af I haven't seen a single person hate on it

    • @ItsJae_37
      @ItsJae_37 2 місяці тому +1

      @@IHaveInsomnia333 i'm hating on it right now. it was boring...and loki got kind of uninteresting.. that sylvie character was REALLY annoying too

  • @lawncutter5283
    @lawncutter5283 Рік тому +4

    It was all accurate until loki, bro literally can’t do anything about his situation

    • @ZyliceLiddell
      @ZyliceLiddell Рік тому +2

      He could have easily stopped the time cop from slapping him and can defend himself from being kicked in the balls repeatedly…

  • @Crazy_Caleb2009
    @Crazy_Caleb2009 4 місяці тому

    The MCU can destroy its main characters, but when a different variant pulls up, they give them a redemption

  • @Mister_Oddity
    @Mister_Oddity Рік тому +11

    The quality of these characters are still in some the cartoons, but the later mcu films just ruin them

    • @realmofloredor
      @realmofloredor  Рік тому +3

      I wouldn’t recommend the current comics, but I agree that the characters in some comics (especially those published in the 90’s) are really well written and established.

  • @shane-him
    @shane-him 2 місяці тому +1

    He one shots a leviathan, then cant stop a jeep

  • @vishnusivan7775
    @vishnusivan7775 8 місяців тому +2

    0:16 is that a personal attack or something 😂

  • @antoniistark16
    @antoniistark16 6 місяців тому +2

    I have seen many comments where they are defending She Hulk and saying its not that bad. Or even calling it "Good"

  • @jeraymymorteau1854
    @jeraymymorteau1854 6 місяців тому +2

    9:10 the face i have when i got an idea 😂

  • @VidoeGamesForEver
    @VidoeGamesForEver 29 днів тому +2

    Let’s get Dr. Doom next!!!

  • @PredsjednikGustavo._
    @PredsjednikGustavo._ 4 місяці тому +2

    All the Loki criticism pre season 2😹😹😹

    • @inkantatem
      @inkantatem 3 місяці тому +2

      and all the loki praise when he was literally controlled by the mind stone

    • @alexasalas6189
      @alexasalas6189 16 днів тому +1

      Loki was always perfect, the whole point is to show how the TVA was on top of everyone else, even for Loki

  • @crandom3434
    @crandom3434 2 місяці тому +1

    Honestly, hulk in Endgame wasnt bad, it was werid, but the Hulk developed, and then She Hulk came along and made it bad.

    • @crandom3434
      @crandom3434 2 місяці тому +1

      Loki at least got a good end in Loki series

  • @AvatarM685
    @AvatarM685 Рік тому +4

    like the respect for the first thor movie with the clip

  • @peaceunion5316
    @peaceunion5316 4 місяці тому

    Having Thor literally lose his physique was such an unnecessary way to make the point of his character arch.

  • @Juicy_Lucyy
    @Juicy_Lucyy 7 місяців тому +1

    I sort of accept fat thor, not him being the butt of a bunch of jokes but just him letting himself go and being depressed because I mean he did blame himself for letting half of all life die.

  • @mr.t-rex3113
    @mr.t-rex3113 3 місяці тому +1

    Iron heart more like iron soulless 💀