The longer it takes to boil, the longer I have to look around and enjoy the camping scenery and enjoy how the speed of the boil is a non issue because time is non existent at a camp site. Great vid.
I agree. If you’re that hungry, have a snack and shut up. 😋 Too many through hikers are in a rush to get in their sleeping bag. Stop and take in the surroundings or else why are you even doing this.
Thanks, probably next weekend when the new stove gets here, I will do another demo with it, its a remote canister stove that will live in my vehicle emergency kit, so it should be interesting to see how it works!
Thanks for this video. I recently purchased the adapter after watching one of your other videos. Great to see the propane performs well. Keep the vids coming and Merry Christmas!
i picked up a 1 lb refill adapter from harbour freight and i fish at a large lake alot where people camp and fish overnight and they use lanterns alot and i just pick up there emptys when they trash em and refill them with my large grill tank its easy to do and they store well
Thanks, I purchased the adaptor , waiting on delivery. Mostly I like the versatility of being able to use any of the two fuels. I also have a twig stove and fuel tablets, add alcohol stoves I made, a couple of MSR white gas whisper light stoves, an old school Coleman white gas 2 burner stove, and a Coleman single burner 2800 series butane stove. I think the last thing I want to purchase are the refillable 1 # propane tanks. I have the adaptor to fill the one pounders from 20 pound tanks already. That completed I think preps in this area are complete.
Thanks again for your review. I usually take my time cooking and not really that concerned with cook times. My concern is that the butane/propane is full and is enough for the time I need it to work. Excellent Video. 👍👍😎
Well, I've done my own research, and you might be able to add these Facts to the discussion. Wally World tells me that the cheapest can of Isobutane they sell costs almost $6 for 4 ounces. The cheapest Propane can they sell is costs about $4 for 16 ounces. Hmm. 4 times the amount for 2 dollars less. Freezing point of Isobutane (where it won't fire up the stove )is about +11F, where for Propane it's about -40F, 50 degrees LOWER. And I can Refill it off my Patio Grill with the right adapter, and it seems to be able to "Power" more Tools and Devices than Isobutane Canisters. Now these are the Prices around Cleveland Ohio, and YMMV. BUT as someone who has seen I-90 shut down TWICE due to Lake Effect Snowstorms just 30 miles East of Downtown Cleveland in the past couple of years, with motorists stuck in their Cars overnight, the Choice is a No Brainer. I'm going with Propane UNLESS I have to Walk my way out of Trouble. Which is why when I clicked on the link below in Yesterday's Video, I now have one of those Luxatta Adapters being Delivered TOMORROW. And one of those little stoves also. Both of which will be stored in my Vehicle tomorrow with a couple of Propane Canisters. Thanks very much for the Upgrade to my Preps. Take Care.
May i suggest a very durable, like bombproof storage box for those propane cans in the car. It a long shot for them to be blown up.in a crash but it would be pretty bad if they did by chance. $45 and you should be much safer.
Thanks. Im getting ready to do a thru hike n in case I can’t get iso butane while on the trail and propane is available-i bought the adapter after seeing this. Thanks.
Planning on ordering a couple of these adapters. Only problem I see with using the propane canister is that it looks to be a bit tippy vs the smaller one. Wally world sells a canister stabilizer base for them, I needed to get a new one for a little coleman blackcat heater that somehow became misplaced that'll get added to the kit. Thanks!
At -20 the iso butane won't work at all. It has zero pressure at 12F. Propane goes to zero at -43F. At 10F isobutane in a cup will just sit there and not boil off.
Great test on the different fuel type. I was wondering if the adapter really worked .I have the stove with the line attached to it what about using it with the propane on its side
Don't think it's a good idea to lay them down..May be hazardous! These little screw on and remote lead type cooker burners, they recommend ONLY USE BUTANE/PROPANE, ISOBUTANE/ PROPANE MIX CAMPING GAS, and no assurances on the safe use of pure propane. Because it is more pressure I think so manufacturers can't guarantee that these puny little travel camping stoves can be used safely. I reckon use it cautiously, and if you really really have to in an emergency, and I recommend you never lay down a pure propane bottle and use it.
The iso-pro is a mix to improve cold weather performance, propane I believe burns better in cold weather, not sure about butane, maybe it's the hotter burner. Best of both worlds.
For the 10 sec difference, I would use the propane to save a bundle. Waiting now for my new MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe to arrive! IN A FEW WEEKS..... sigh...
So, I was all confused when someone said Isobutane/Propane. Isobutane isn't propane at all. The can it comes in can hold both. I was under the impression isobutane was butane mixed with propane.
would you be willing to make a video running white gas stoves on unleaded gasoline? I've always thought the requirement to burn white gas was about selling their fuel. I'm thinking cooking/boiling in a container with a cover would eliminate any toxic issues. I haven't heard of any concerns about fuel tablets, denatured alcohol, or other fuel sources causing any health issues. Is it possible the white gas is that much cleaner to burn vs gasoline????
Yeah I could do that but gas seems to gunk up a lot of those white gas stoves. Its the main reason I dont use it, it WILL work but it can be messy and clog up stoves in the long run unless they are designed for it.
Newbie here (with decades behind me not new to life, but new to this stuff) with a question for anybody that knows: So, based on some UA-cam reviews and under the heading that is good enough for my purposes (boiling water for coffee or heating soup in) I got the AOTU backpacking stove (which seems to be the same as the Etekcity) off Amazon. I also got the Toaks 750ml titanium cup to use with it. Today everything arrived and so to get familiar with it and check everything out I did a boil test using a 8 oz Primus fuel canister. I was not able to achieve the 3 minute boil times (as seen on many UA-cam videos), without cranking the thing all the way up to what was kind of seemed like a blowtorch effect. In doing so the cup developed a quarter size bright red spot on the bottom, like the stove was going to burn through it and maybe also be releasing some toxins into the water. So, is that normal, or have I killed, or am I killing, the cup? Does the stove sound like it's defective or is that just how they work? I'm surprised there wasn't any information sheet package with a stove. I'm it is kind of intuitive to use, but for people new to the game some of its cooking characteristics, like if that intense heated red spot is a normal thing, should be pointed out. And yes, I know, it would be nice if I gotten a $160 Jetboil set (actually too big for me) or the $50 MRS Pocket Rocket 2 (which at least I would not have to identify by marking it up with my initials), but I was hoping that a functional enough stove (as the AOTU seemed to be based on the UA-cam reviews that I've seen) with a decent cup-pot would do the trick. Or if anybody can suggest a decent performing stove for under $25 I'm open to that. Thank you. I really appreciate any insight from people with experience.
Good vid mate. Although it adds a little weight and bulk using a vane based vessel like the jetboil style really reduces boil time The money you save using refills will pay for one and there are plenty of knock offs on eBay ect I'm on a tight budget so mines anodised aluminium rather than tit but as I'm more of a long distant stroller than hiker ( im retired so can take my time) a few extra ounces doesn't really bother me.
Just a heads up - if you're going to do "tests" in a scientific manor, please use the correct terms. That is not isobutane. It's a camping fuel canister which automatically means it's a "blended fuel" (which is written on the label) of propane + iso or n-butane. The mixture of percentages is either 20% or 30% propane to 80% or 70% butane. There ARE backpackers who use smaller stove canister setups and run their stoves on purely butane. You did not do that test...
Chris Colagiovanni Or you could put your money where your mouth is and show us your results. Unless Mr. Einstein, you're too busy critiquing other's channels.
The longer it takes to boil, the longer I have to look around and enjoy the camping scenery and enjoy how the speed of the boil is a non issue because time is non existent at a camp site. Great vid.
.... while starving?
@@siqizhang3602 LOL, ya if I'm super hungry it would be harder to be patient with a slow boil.
I agree. If you’re that hungry, have a snack and shut up. 😋 Too many through hikers are in a rush to get in their sleeping bag. Stop and take in the surroundings or else why are you even doing this.
The longer it takes, the more fuel is used
@@shamitoson Hike your own hike dude!
I was intrigued when you showed the adapter yesterday . Today I am convinced It's a must Have Thank You
Thanks, probably next weekend when the new stove gets here, I will do another demo with it, its a remote canister stove that will live in my vehicle emergency kit, so it should be interesting to see how it works!
That was great, and so nice to know how close the boil times were.
Thank you once again.
Thanks for this video. I recently purchased the adapter after watching one of your other videos. Great to see the propane performs well. Keep the vids coming and Merry Christmas!
i picked up a 1 lb refill adapter from harbour freight and i fish at a large lake alot where people camp and fish overnight and they use lanterns alot and i just pick up there emptys when they trash em and refill them with my large grill tank its easy to do and they store well
Great comparison. I'm learning a lot from your videos. Thanks.
Thanks, I purchased the adaptor , waiting on delivery. Mostly I like the versatility of being able to use any of the two fuels. I also have a twig stove and fuel tablets, add alcohol stoves I made, a couple of MSR white gas whisper light stoves, an old school Coleman white gas 2 burner stove, and a Coleman single burner 2800 series butane stove. I think the last thing I want to purchase are the refillable 1 # propane tanks. I have the adaptor to fill the one pounders from 20 pound tanks already. That completed I think preps in this area are complete.
Add 14 seconds. Negligible difference. Great test! Thx
17-18 seconds actually
Thanks again for your review. I usually take my time cooking and not really that concerned with cook times. My concern is that the butane/propane is full and is enough for the time I need it to work.
Excellent Video. 👍👍😎
Thanks for the test, I was wondering about that too 😆
Great vids easy to follow very informative.
good test to show both are very close, now if your hiking the butane is lighter weight but for car camping something to think about using the propane
should of added I ordered on off amazon can see using it with the propane in car camping or a day at the park
Well, I've done my own research, and you might be able to add these Facts to the discussion. Wally World tells me that the cheapest can of Isobutane they sell costs almost $6 for 4 ounces. The cheapest Propane can they sell is costs about $4 for 16 ounces. Hmm. 4 times the amount for 2 dollars less. Freezing point of Isobutane (where it won't fire up the stove )is about +11F, where for Propane it's about -40F, 50 degrees LOWER. And I can Refill it off my Patio Grill with the right adapter, and it seems to be able to "Power" more Tools and Devices than Isobutane Canisters. Now these are the Prices around Cleveland Ohio, and YMMV. BUT as someone who has seen I-90 shut down TWICE due to Lake Effect Snowstorms just 30 miles East of Downtown Cleveland in the past couple of years, with motorists stuck in their Cars overnight, the Choice is a No Brainer. I'm going with Propane UNLESS I have to Walk my way out of Trouble. Which is why when I clicked on the link below in Yesterday's Video, I now have one of those Luxatta Adapters being Delivered TOMORROW. And one of those little stoves also. Both of which will be stored in my Vehicle tomorrow with a couple of Propane Canisters. Thanks very much for the Upgrade to my Preps. Take Care.
May i suggest a very durable, like bombproof storage box for those propane cans in the car. It a long shot for them to be blown up.in a crash but it would be pretty bad if they did by chance. $45 and you should be much safer.
@@beerbeforebreakfast And also roll the windows down.
Thanks. Im getting ready to do a thru hike n in case I can’t get iso butane while on the trail and propane is available-i bought the adapter after seeing this. Thanks.
How did your Lanterns like primus and pocket rocket delux stoves work on isobutane vs butane fuel? Thankyou
Good test,haven't seen much of a difference between the 2 fuels with my pocket rocket.
Planning on ordering a couple of these adapters. Only problem I see with using the propane canister is that it looks to be a bit tippy vs the smaller one. Wally world sells a canister stabilizer base for them, I needed to get a new one for a little coleman blackcat heater that somehow became misplaced that'll get added to the kit. Thanks!
Yeah same thing I saw here, that is why I am getting a remote canister stove for it, this way the burner wont sit on top of the propane tank.
We have Sunday breakfast in a park.
Using propane would save us a few dollars.
I think the investment for the adapter would payback quickly.
I like the option of multi use
Thats an awesome alternative
Very Cool!
curious to see this test done in -20 degree temp and see if there is any difference.
At -20 the iso butane won't work at all. It has zero pressure at 12F. Propane goes to zero at -43F. At 10F isobutane in a cup will just sit there and not boil off.
Great test on the different fuel type. I was wondering if the adapter really worked .I have the stove with the line attached to it what about using it with the propane on its side
Don't think it's a good idea to lay them down..May be hazardous! These little screw on and remote lead type cooker burners, they recommend ONLY USE BUTANE/PROPANE, ISOBUTANE/ PROPANE MIX CAMPING GAS, and no assurances on the safe use of pure propane. Because it is more pressure I think so manufacturers can't guarantee that these puny little travel camping stoves can be used safely. I reckon use it cautiously, and if you really really have to in an emergency, and I recommend you never lay down a pure propane bottle and use it.
Is there a difference in fuel consumption?
What about how much fuel each uses, is there a difference ? Since the propane tank is larger, will it last longer ?
I would guess the 1 lb propane tank would last far longer since its much bigger and the burner itself isnt using more or less fuel
The iso-pro is a mix to improve cold weather performance, propane I believe burns better in cold weather, not sure about butane, maybe it's the hotter burner. Best of both worlds.
Next test ….map gas!!
For the 10 sec difference, I would use the propane to save a bundle.
Waiting now for my new MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe to arrive!
IN A FEW WEEKS..... sigh...
So, I was all confused when someone said Isobutane/Propane. Isobutane isn't propane at all. The can it comes in can hold both. I was under the impression isobutane was butane mixed with propane.
That's called isopro. Some of the better known hiking brands use it like jetboil and MSR, their cans are a blend of isobutane and propane.
I wish propane came in half pound canisters like the butane ones do
Size is the only downside of propane
would you be willing to make a video running white gas stoves on unleaded gasoline? I've always thought the requirement to burn white gas was about selling their fuel. I'm thinking cooking/boiling in a container with a cover would eliminate any toxic issues. I haven't heard of any concerns about fuel tablets, denatured alcohol, or other fuel sources causing any health issues. Is it possible the white gas is that much cleaner to burn vs gasoline????
Yeah I could do that but gas seems to gunk up a lot of those white gas stoves. Its the main reason I dont use it, it WILL work but it can be messy and clog up stoves in the long run unless they are designed for it.
@@Iridium242 ok I've never tried gasoline, what clogs up?
Usually the area where the fuel comes out under pressure. It burns very sooty so it clogs up that hole. Also have to be SUPER careful with gas too.
Butane/ isobutane is a bit harder to find, especially during hunting season.
Newbie here (with decades behind me not new to life, but new to this stuff) with a question for anybody that knows:
So, based on some UA-cam reviews and under the heading that is good enough for my purposes (boiling water for coffee or heating soup in) I got the AOTU backpacking stove (which seems to be the same as the Etekcity) off Amazon. I also got the Toaks 750ml titanium cup to use with it.
Today everything arrived and so to get familiar with it and check everything out I did a boil test using a 8 oz Primus fuel canister.
I was not able to achieve the 3 minute boil times (as seen on many UA-cam videos), without cranking the thing all the way up to what was kind of seemed like a blowtorch effect.
In doing so the cup developed a quarter size bright red spot on the bottom, like the stove was going to burn through it and maybe also be releasing some toxins into the water.
So, is that normal, or have I killed, or am I killing, the cup? Does the stove sound like it's defective or is that just how they work?
I'm surprised there wasn't any information sheet package with a stove. I'm it is kind of intuitive to use, but for people new to the game some of its cooking characteristics, like if that intense heated red spot is a normal thing, should be pointed out.
And yes, I know, it would be nice if I gotten a $160 Jetboil set (actually too big for me) or the $50 MRS Pocket Rocket 2 (which at least I would not have to identify by marking it up with my initials), but I was hoping that a functional enough stove (as the AOTU seemed to be based on the UA-cam reviews that I've seen) with a decent cup-pot would do the trick.
Or if anybody can suggest a decent performing stove for under $25 I'm open to that.
Thank you. I really appreciate any insight from people with experience.
Depends on elevation too, for boil time. I live in the mountains, so it takes longer.
It would have been good to check the weights and see how many grams of each gas was burned.
Propane good to -44F, isobutane 11F
Good vid mate.
Although it adds a little weight and bulk using a vane based vessel like the jetboil style really reduces boil time
The money you save using refills will pay for one and there are plenty of knock offs on eBay ect
I'm on a tight budget so mines anodised aluminium rather than tit but as I'm more of a long distant stroller than hiker ( im retired so can take my time) a few extra ounces doesn't really bother me.
Just a heads up - if you're going to do "tests" in a scientific manor, please use the correct terms. That is not isobutane. It's a camping fuel canister which automatically means it's a "blended fuel" (which is written on the label) of propane + iso or n-butane. The mixture of percentages is either 20% or 30% propane to 80% or 70% butane. There ARE backpackers who use smaller stove canister setups and run their stoves on purely butane. You did not do that test...
Chris Colagiovanni Or you could put your money where your mouth is and show us your results. Unless Mr. Einstein, you're too busy critiquing other's channels.