DISGUSTING Economy Class on Hainan Airlines' 787 (Skytrax 5* Airline) | Dublin-Edinburgh

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    Date of Travel: 30 MAY 2019
    Airline: HAINAN AIRLINES
    Livery: Hainan standard livery
    Route: DUB-EDI
    Aircraft: Boeing 787-9
    Flight Number: HU 751
    Miles: 209
    Airborne time: 0h40m
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  • @Paul_Lucas
    @Paul_Lucas  4 роки тому +59

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    • @mastersingleton
      @mastersingleton 4 роки тому

      My first flight by myself is Economy on XiamenAir from Sydney to Xiamen onboard there new Boeing 787-8 which is clean and overall experience is excellent and so is the Customer Service and the Flight Crew is friendly and welcoming plus way better than Hainan Airlines in my opinion based on a previous overall unpleasant experience with Hainan Airlines. I would Highly Recommend you to review XiamenAir to Xiamen.

    • @Schocam
      @Schocam 4 роки тому +2

      @@theflyer1 They should have a checklist. Check for clean toilet. Check for clean seat. Check for hygienic food. Then once in a while, impromptu audit.

    • @carlnilssonyoung8961
      @carlnilssonyoung8961 4 роки тому

      Paul, eva air is my top 4 , u better take a ride n make a video.

    • @huguesmartel4798
      @huguesmartel4798 3 роки тому

      there used to be a shorter 787 flight: ET has operated SIN-KUL at some point, was like a bit short of 300 kn

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 4 роки тому +1443

    This is why you should fly Air Koryo

    • @hagendiszero
      @hagendiszero 4 роки тому +46

      Supreme Leader has spoken..!!
      👏

    • @Paul_Lucas
      @Paul_Lucas  4 роки тому +311

      Kim Jong-un Thank you Supreme Leader. May your army of loyal workers keep the aisles free and the footwells clean.

    • @sidewalk__
      @sidewalk__ 4 роки тому +25

      I was not expecting Paul to reply to the almighty Supreme leader of the world.

    • @Avionicx
      @Avionicx 4 роки тому +5

      @@Paul_Lucas lol

    • @stoehrcov
      @stoehrcov 4 роки тому +3

      Hahaha

  • @paulwrightwa
    @paulwrightwa 4 роки тому +429

    Yikes!! If a “newer” plane is that nasty, I would hate to see any of their older planes.... no excuse for not properly cleaning

    • @ametrinemoon
      @ametrinemoon 4 роки тому +33

      And allegedly the cleanest airline in China? That was beyond appealing!

    • @jobiden1234
      @jobiden1234 4 роки тому +21

      its actually the ground staff's fault as they clean the planes

    • @pocholocatoto5246
      @pocholocatoto5246 4 роки тому +4

      @Ametrine Moon AHAHAHAHHAAHA have Hainan Airlines taken notice?

    • @MervynPartin
      @MervynPartin 4 роки тому +38

      @@jobiden1234 The airline pays for the cleaning so they are still responsible, however it may be that the Dublin ground staff are just as bad servicing other airlines, but that is the worst that I have ever seen. Probably why they have the church at the airport so that they can "confess" their sins of shoddy work.

    • @ametrinemoon
      @ametrinemoon 4 роки тому +1

      @@jobiden1234 How can you miss that?

  • @Jac-Jay
    @Jac-Jay 4 роки тому +133

    I would happily go without the free water,sandwich,blanket and headphones in return for a clean cabin,no excuses for it really.

  • @ArnoldPranks
    @ArnoldPranks 4 роки тому +68

    More proof that Skytrax Awards are a sham! This is utterly unacceptable, on a Ryanair flight..let alone an international long-haul..regardless of whether it is a cheap fare.

    • @odzergaming
      @odzergaming 2 місяці тому

      This is just one flight, i took 4 flights with them and all were very clean

  • @xbshot
    @xbshot 4 роки тому +103

    If you think thats nasty, imagine us aircraft mechanic what we find when we pull the floorboards off for heavy MTX. Its disgusting.

    • @EvilNoobKitty123
      @EvilNoobKitty123 4 роки тому +6

      Gabriel Figueroa idk about you guys but our pilots are filthy asf. They leave their trash in the cockpit

    • @Amar7605
      @Amar7605 3 роки тому +1

      I'll bet you mechanics have some faciniating horror stories.

  • @marciaanderton7170
    @marciaanderton7170 4 роки тому +134

    THat is gross. Did you sit in another seat. I would have.

    • @GrrMeister
      @GrrMeister 4 роки тому +10

      *Would have put me off my Fillet Steak with Chips and Peppercorn Sauce to say the least.*

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 4 роки тому +125

    They make Air Koryo look like first class

    • @MikoyanGurevichMiG21
      @MikoyanGurevichMiG21 4 роки тому +23

      Air Koryo isn't even that bad of an airline. It seemed okay from whatever I saw on Sam Chui's vlogs.

    • @madingwang7778
      @madingwang7778 4 роки тому +12

      Air Koryo has a first class though😂

    • @user-eo4di4yp1p
      @user-eo4di4yp1p 4 роки тому +2

      Short Haul flight are way worse Than long Haul on Hanain airlines

    • @Mark50x
      @Mark50x 4 роки тому +1

      Hi Kim Jong un

    • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
      @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 4 роки тому +5

      mading We have business class not first class

  • @ProcoreCupSeries
    @ProcoreCupSeries 4 роки тому +10

    My first flight alone was on Southwest from Sacramento to Baltimore in July 2019. I’m only 16 so my flying history is very short, however I’m very proud of it

  • @mottyk8491
    @mottyk8491 4 роки тому +21

    As a kid I remember flying TWA and Tower Air
    Seeing that seat stain made me want to puke, the windows were filthy as well

  • @angeliaweitzman401
    @angeliaweitzman401 4 роки тому +108

    Lol. My first flight was on PanAm!

    • @Paul_Lucas
      @Paul_Lucas  4 роки тому +25

      Ah, the one airline I really wish I'd had a chance to fly.

    • @angeliaweitzman401
      @angeliaweitzman401 4 роки тому +1

      I was a wee little girl. It was from L.A. to Tulsa, OK.

    • @davidhogben1455
      @davidhogben1455 4 роки тому

      my first flight on my own was as a 7 year old living in Australia going from Brisbane to Mount Isa on Ansett Airlines on a Fokker 100 in 1977

    • @tireclan3531
      @tireclan3531 4 роки тому

      My first flight was southwest...

    • @Mhel2023
      @Mhel2023 4 роки тому

      My first flight was on Eastern Airlines, NYC to Houston. I also flew on American Airlines from LAX to JFK in the 80's and smoked in flight (I don't smoke anymore 🍃)

  • @2Stonefly
    @2Stonefly 4 роки тому +35

    That cabin looks like my roommates car in college.

  • @porusky
    @porusky 4 роки тому +34

    Skytrax is a bunch of bollocks - its well known, he who pays more gets "crowned"

  • @OrdinaryJack1912
    @OrdinaryJack1912 4 роки тому +56

    If that was rated the best cabin in China for cleanliness, I dread to think what other Chinese airlines are like. That cabin was absolutely disgusting!
    As for the sandwich, I would have just dumped it down the side of the seat and let it pick up some coffee moisture. It wouldn't have been as dry then.

    • @thwalesproductions
      @thwalesproductions 4 роки тому +8

      Air China, Cathy Pacific is much better than this

    • @louisaugustexvi4515
      @louisaugustexvi4515 4 роки тому +3

      Im surpised hainan is normally really nice

    • @louisaugustexvi4515
      @louisaugustexvi4515 4 роки тому +7

      And lmao chinese airlines are really clean and modern so again im suprised. Ive flown on china eastern china southern and hainan and lemme say china eastern and hainan are some of the best cabins and cabin crew ive ever had. Because of strict laws with the cabin crew they basically are the most caring towards passengers. I love chinese airlines

    • @louisaugustexvi4515
      @louisaugustexvi4515 4 роки тому +3

      @@afcgeo882 yes ive flown united many times. United is my favorite airline but i fly to asia and europe frequently and when i fly to asia i like to fly foreign airlines.

    • @louisaugustexvi4515
      @louisaugustexvi4515 4 роки тому +2

      And im not biased. United is my favorite airline of all time. And i have to admit it has its issues. My only issue with chinese airlines is sometimes the crew dont speak the best English but i dont hold that against them. Also their policies on phones are annoying

  • @JoshCahill
    @JoshCahill 4 роки тому +28

    It’s a shame that Hainan Airlines got trapped into this “We make you a 5-Star Airline if you are willing to pay” Skytrax kind of bullshit. They should pull out!

  • @johnpinckney4979
    @johnpinckney4979 4 роки тому +1

    My first solo flight? November 1978. Age 22 on Eastern Airlines (RIP), DCA-RDU-CAE on DC-9-30's down to visit my grandmother for Thanksgiving weekend. Drove up from Mary Washington College in Fredericksburg on a nasty, rainy afternoon for the early evening flight on the day before Thanksgiving. That trip is still memorable for a number of reasons. Not the last of which was the woman sitting next to me! Let's just say she should've showered "afterwards" before getting on the plane! When I got to CAE, I plugged my 2-meter transceiver into the cigarette lighter for power, popped a 5/8 wave mag-mount whip on the roof of my Mercury Zephyr rental (a horror show of a car!) and got on the air via the the repeater on the WRLK-TV tower in Killian. Met up on air with a couple of other hams and we all got together at the Ramada Inn in West Columbia for supper. Had a couple of drinks with my meal and drove on down to Wagener. Overshot my grandmother's house and had to turn around in the parking lot of a "well-known roadhouse". Next day while at my Uncle Claibourne and Aunt Mertie's house for the big family dinner, several of my college-age cousins and I got the idea of going to a joint called "Mammy's Shanty" late the next night. My cousin Marion goes and says "John, from when we stop the car until we leave don't open your mouth or our asses are dead! (My 'Yankee' accent!) Mammy's Shanty was for many years the "most frequently dispatched address" for the Columbia Police Department. What kind of place was it? Chicken wire around the stage, for one thing! The music was strictly "country". No "western"! My grandmother (and her nieces and nephews, parents of my cousins) overheard us and quickly put a stop to our "plan". The trip on Sunday back to DCA was memorable as my assigned seat CAE-CLT was next to Congressman Floyd Spence, who was second only to L. Mendel Rivers in terms of modern South Carolina Congressional legends. The trip back was also on DC-9's First flight overall? May 17, 1965, TWA on a B-707-331, IAD-LHR when I was nine years old...
    Paul, I've seen as bad, if not worse here in the U.S. One of the reasons why I've not willingly flown since 2010 (Virgin America (RIP) IAD-LAX, RT. And, not at all since 2013 Looks like you had a truly wretched flight. Hopefully my next flight (Next month on Southwest) will be much better than your Hainan experience!

  • @MrGreatplum
    @MrGreatplum 4 роки тому +56

    That plane was exceptionally grim - what a shame ; it desperately needs a deep clean!

    • @johnpinckney4979
      @johnpinckney4979 4 роки тому +1

      Paul, Have you ever seen the "Another Dirty Room" programmes by Dan Bell? You could collaborate with him and do "Another Dirty Plane"!

    • @sergiogarciaramos7636
      @sergiogarciaramos7636 4 роки тому +4

      MrGreatplum that is why we shouldn't trust skytrax. bribary airline&comapany

  • @b3108
    @b3108 4 роки тому +19

    “Skytrax... discredited...” - it’s been like that for a while, right?

  • @robertbalfour1654
    @robertbalfour1654 4 роки тому +11

    Thanks for telling me that I will not be flying with Hainan Airlines that looks like the cleaners are to lazy to clean

  • @danielthomas791
    @danielthomas791 4 роки тому +38

    ….pretty nasty...I suppose you can always reach under the seat if you're still hungry after the snack...…..

  • @waynej747
    @waynej747 4 роки тому +6

    My first solo flight was an Australian domestic flight with Ansett back in the late 90’s. I still miss that airline.
    The state of the cabin on that “5 star” airline is further proof that the Skytrax rating system is questionable to say the least.

  • @johnchristie9904
    @johnchristie9904 4 роки тому +47

    Im not the type of person to complain but id go crazy if i was sitting there

    • @gwarlow
      @gwarlow 4 роки тому +7

      Unloveable J I would have asked to be seated elsewhere. Disgusting.

  • @AustenHilton
    @AustenHilton 4 роки тому +18

    Saw the Instagram story while I was eating and well let’s just say I was finished eating rather quickly

  • @tomasgroothuis1511
    @tomasgroothuis1511 4 роки тому +4

    Just yesterday I flew for the first time on my own, from Amsterdam via Frankfurt to Madrid. The first flight was a positioning flight so I could take the fifth freedom flight on Latam to Madrid in their B787-9 business class, my first time flying on my own and my first time flying business class. Obviously, it was an absolutely great experience! By the way, I you are interested in flying a flat bed business class for an economy class fare, that is the way to go as they frequently offer prices as low as €160.00 for a round trip.

  • @r.u.faux_real1446
    @r.u.faux_real1446 4 роки тому +9

    The toilet seat probably had fewer bacteria and viruses than your airplane seat. :p

  • @redademe
    @redademe 4 роки тому +10

    RJ's TLV-AMM must be the shortest 787 flight in the world at 69 miles.

  • @nycflyertravel
    @nycflyertravel 4 роки тому +49

    That’s a shame about the cabin cleanliness. Otherwise it’s really impressive that they handed out headphones and a sandwich on such a short flight.

    • @nycflyertravel
      @nycflyertravel 4 роки тому

      Yeah, I just flew Air France from London to Paris today and they handed out sandwiches, which was really nice. I'm glad this is becoming more common again.

  • @johnsymons76
    @johnsymons76 4 роки тому +1

    My first flight was with my Grandmother from Norfolk, Va to Chicago O'Hare in the fall of 1969. It was on a United 727. My friends were able to come on board to see us settled in! No jetway, just walked from the gate over to the plane. We were served a full hot breakfast during the 2 hour flight in Coach(Economy). The flight attendants were so kind to my 87 year old Grandmother. You just don't see that kind of service anymore on domestic flights in the USA. That was really back in the,"good old days", of commercial aviation.

  • @brilondon
    @brilondon 4 роки тому +1

    My first airline that I flew was Canadian Airlines from YXU to YYZ to HNL. This was back in 1995. They served a wonderful dinner of roast beef, potatoes, and green beans on the 10 hour flight. Then offered a some sandwiches about two hours before arriving in HNL. My return flight was equally good. Again the dinner was the roast beef. They had a decent selection of movies shown on the main screen but I decided to get some sleep on both long flights. There were no personal TVs so I passed the time by reading and listening to music and napping. Overall my impression of flying was very favourable. This experience in economy is the bar for which I judge my travel experiences to this day.

  • @MikoyanGurevichMiG21
    @MikoyanGurevichMiG21 4 роки тому +11

    Skytrax has lost a lot of its credibility over the years. Many airlines undeservingly get poor ratings while the opposite is also true. It looks like many airlines may be involved in "paid" ratings or reviews.
    Many "1-Star" Skytrax rated airlines have actually good flight experiences while many 5 star airlines like these may even end up disappointing.

  • @jamesrobinson9194
    @jamesrobinson9194 4 роки тому +10

    Paul, great video as always. I'm flying EDI-DUB on the 01 October; I have a window seat also and I hope that the cabin will be much cleaner than on your trip!

    • @doc7austin
      @doc7austin 4 роки тому

      James Robinson i thought Hainan has cancelled that route

    • @jamesrobinson9194
      @jamesrobinson9194 4 роки тому +1

      @@doc7austin yes from the second week in October

    • @jamesrobinson9194
      @jamesrobinson9194 4 роки тому

      Well I have just landed in Dublin and I am pleased to report that the cleanliness was more than acceptable plus there were barely 50 people on the whole plane! So overall one of my better flights.

  • @realcanadianrailfan110
    @realcanadianrailfan110 4 роки тому

    My first flight wasn't as an adult, but 11. It was an adventure, no doubt. If anyone had a more messed up travel day, I'd love to hear it: as a family, we were flying from Calgary to Halifax. Our original routing was on an Air Canada DC-9. Calgary-Regina-Winnipeg-Thunder Bay-Sudbury-Ottawa-Montreal-Moncton-Halifax. We enjoyed our breakfast on the ground at the gate while AC mechanics tried to trouble shoot an instrument light issue. We were re-booked on CP Air. The plane came in from Vancouver and stopped in Winnipeg before going on to Toronto. We were then booked on an Air Canada 727-200. That flight was late, and we arrived in Halifax just after midnight.

  • @frankb4199
    @frankb4199 4 роки тому +2

    I’m glad I found this channel, I watch it every morning when I get off shift. Not only because I love to travel, but you’ve thought me some really cool ways to save money and enjoy a flight. Thanks Paul!

  • @HollyBeth
    @HollyBeth 4 роки тому +5

    This is why you don't use mainland China airlines. Cathy Pacific is based out of Hong Kong which is different than the mainland. I have tried China Eastern Airlines in the past and they too had their cabin filthy and disgusting. I have had bad experiences with China airlines. However, Cathy and Eva Airlines are given top notch in my books. They are fabulous airlines.

  • @MrToastbotable
    @MrToastbotable 4 роки тому +12

    Hi Paul. I've been flying with Hainan Airlines 2-3 times a year from Manchester to Beijing. When they started coming to Europe about 5 years ago they were really quite good in economy, just a notch bellow Cathay the the Middle Eastern airlines. but certainly better and cheaper than the European ones (with the exception of Finnair).
    About 2 years ago for some reason they went into a decline. The excellent service stopped being excellent, and as you saw the planes got dirty and tatty. It's a shame as they were a very good and well priced option to get to China from the North of England. But unfortunately they are no longer good or cheap.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 4 роки тому

      Some definite cost cutting going on.

  • @gergelylazar6647
    @gergelylazar6647 4 роки тому +1

    First solo flight was Budapest-Frankfurt-Singapore-Jakarta in 2013 with Lufthansa & Jetstar Airways. Lufthansa had also been graded five stars recently, but not at that time. It was Economy Class (I never fly on higher class). That FRA-SIN stage was with a Superjumbo. The legendary A380. I had next to no sleep, because the passenger in front reclined his seat to my knees (thank you, pinhead) and the passenger behind was also a person with the same height as I am (I am 1.85 metres). Legroom was OK-ish, but it was an aisle seat, unfortunately.
    My first experience on a wide-body on a window-seat was an Etihad A330 on an AUH-CGK route. Well, to say the least it is a different league.

    • @johnpinckney4979
      @johnpinckney4979 4 роки тому +1

      On my first Southwest flight (August 2008, IAD-MDW), the sister of the guy you mentioned must've been sitting in front of the guy to my right. While attempting to watch a movie on my iPod (remember those antiques?), he enhanced the audio by beating on the back of her reclined seat and shouting "B---h!" every few minutes. The FA's never tried calming him down!

  • @CairnTerrier69
    @CairnTerrier69 4 роки тому +1

    My first flight was in August of 1978 from BDL to DEN with a stop in ORD. TWA aboard a Boeing 707!! I loved every second of it!

  • @lonniepratt7899
    @lonniepratt7899 4 роки тому +12

    Oh wow. How could you sit in that chair. I would have to get my money back. So sad.

  • @flyingdentist
    @flyingdentist 4 роки тому +4

    This cabin is unacceptable.People are not pigs.That seat should be replaced.Did you report this to the crew?I would never sit on it.They call themselves a 5 star airline.A zero star would be right.

  • @cliffordbodine5834
    @cliffordbodine5834 4 роки тому

    You asked at the beginning of this video what our earliest memories are of flying. Well, I'm from the U.S. and I remember flying to Florida from Philadelphia as a boy of seven or eight years-old on National Airlines. A couple of years after that, I flew to St. Louis from Philadelphia on TWA Airlines. I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work!

  • @baochris9671
    @baochris9671 4 роки тому +1

    I have flown with Hainan Airlines for many many times, in fact, My first journey with them was over 15 years ago when the airline first started. It is very surprising for me to see any Hainan's aircraft to be in such a disgusting and unacceptable state. Clearly, the cabin was only cleaned very carelessly if not cleaned at all. I can most definitely say it has never been the case for those Hainan's flights that which depart from China, after all, we should blame the ground cleaning staff in Dublin rather than the cabin crew. I would say Hainan Airlines has always been and still is one the best airlines in asia, they have maintained a very high standard of service in their longer or shorter routes and unlike many western top-tier airlines, Hainan operates a very young fleet as they mainly use 787s and newly purchased A350s on international routes and brand new 738s on domestic routes. You should definitely try one of their other flights which travel directly from or to China, I guarantee it would entirely change your impression for the airline.

  • @pinkycoffeeboat
    @pinkycoffeeboat 4 роки тому +8

    Ha!! 5 star airline?? Skytrax is nothing more than a very expensive PR company.
    First flight - BA Viscount from Belfast to the Isle of Man and from then I was hooked on aviation!
    Thanks Paul

    • @pinkycoffeeboat
      @pinkycoffeeboat 4 роки тому

      @@Bobspineable ok Thanks, I'll have a look at their report.

  • @loreneharrell2716
    @loreneharrell2716 4 роки тому +3

    I love watching your videos, but I haven’t been on any sort of an airplane since I was 5 years old, I’m now 55 so it’s been 50 years! I remember it was a small Cessna and it terrified me, I swore to my dad (who had taken me and my younger brother to our small airport in the city where I still live on a “joyride “) that I would never fly again, and I haven’t, just the thought of flying scares me! But your videos are lovely and informative, please keep up the good work!! Have a blessed day!

    • @Paul_Lucas
      @Paul_Lucas  4 роки тому

      Thank you Lorene - hope you get the courage to get back in the air some day!

  • @iantroup
    @iantroup 4 роки тому

    Hi Paul, my flying career began in 1963 when I was 7 yrs old. I flew BEA from Dyce airport in Aberdeen to London then BOAC to Entebbe in Uganda on my own with £2.00 spending money. I was a schoolchild in Scotland travelling home to visit my parents who were Ex-pats in Uganda. I did this for 12 years. I loved all of it!

  • @NeoTimbo
    @NeoTimbo 4 роки тому +1

    Love the new style of properly talking to the camera in public, it takes real guts to do that and is very commendable. Makes the reviews much more professional too.

  • @andrewsaunders307
    @andrewsaunders307 4 роки тому +8

    I wish to compliment you for the “Restraint” you showed on the filthy cockpit area. I could hear the complete disdain in your voice.
    Even if they don’t “Clean” between flights, a simple rubbish collection isn’t too hard to achieve. And frankly, cleaners should come on at the end of the aircrafts service day.

    • @tavita8699
      @tavita8699 4 роки тому

      It's a cabin not a cockpit...

    • @andrewsaunders307
      @andrewsaunders307 4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the comment. So I typed in the wrong word... Enjoy your day 😊

    • @ladybriony
      @ladybriony 4 роки тому

      The dirty dishes were in the gate area.

  • @fixpacifica
    @fixpacifica 4 роки тому +4

    First flight alone was when I was going off to college - United from Columbus, Ohio to Seattle, then Pan Am from Seattle to Fairbanks, Alaska.

  • @davesummers4082
    @davesummers4082 4 роки тому +1

    My first flight was Cambrian Airways Viscount 806 from Manchester to Isle of Man, sometime in the early 1970s. Happy days 🙂

  • @bobbank74
    @bobbank74 4 роки тому

    First flight I had on my own was in 2001, weeks after the terrorist attacks in New York, I was flying to Australia from Heathrow with Singapore Airlines via Changi, and then on to Sydney. I loved that trip, but not the flight home, 15 hours to London from Singapore due to strong headwinds. I was in economy with very little leg room, it was very difficult to get comfortable, so when I flew back out to Sydney in late January 2002 I went business class, Heathrow-Vienna-KL-syd, an Austrian Airlines A321 to Vienna and then a Lauda Air Boeing 777 to Sydney. An experience I will never forget. Brilliant.

  • @MrBlazemaster525
    @MrBlazemaster525 4 роки тому +69

    LOL saying you're the cleanest aircraft cabin in China is like being the best-dressed in a nudist colony 😂😂😂😂

    • @GoogleGebruiker
      @GoogleGebruiker 4 роки тому +3

      @@afcgeo882 *Hong* *Kong*

    • @JYMAHJAMES
      @JYMAHJAMES 4 роки тому +7

      @@afcgeo882 don't start

    • @MrBlazemaster525
      @MrBlazemaster525 4 роки тому +5

      @@afcgeo882 I didn't realize it was 2047 already

    • @KK-xs7hi
      @KK-xs7hi 4 роки тому +1

      BlazeMasterGaming regardless of Hong Kong and China skytrax consider HK a different country. And Cathay was brought up in British HK so standards are well and truly above Chinese airlines in general.

    • @MrBlazemaster525
      @MrBlazemaster525 4 роки тому +2

      @@KK-xs7hi You should be pointing that at george the Chinese apologist lol I've flown Cathay and I would never make that mistake

  • @johnmackie77
    @johnmackie77 4 роки тому +6

    My first flight as an adult? World Ways from Gatwick to Ottawa in 1987...brilliant stuff :-)

    • @ianpilkington2037
      @ianpilkington2037 4 роки тому

      That was mine too to Ottawa, in '78, except I was a kid

  • @alastairbarkley6572
    @alastairbarkley6572 4 роки тому

    Our first unaccompanied flights? Vickers-Armstrong Vanguard (4 engine turboprop), British European Airways, LHR to Hamburg, end of 1962. I was just a kid - unaccompanied; it was much commoner back then. Keep up the good work, Paul. Always enjoy the videos.

  • @torgeirbrandsnes1916
    @torgeirbrandsnes1916 4 роки тому +1

    Good job! I am not surprised. Been to PEK twice. They spit and throw garbage all over! That -9 is what? Max 2 yrs old? How much did Hainan pay Sky tracks for the 5 stars? ET flies many doble cities before flying to ADD. OSL-ARN is one of them. First time I flew was 1978, summer break from school. I was 8 and my sister 6. We flew BU, now part of SK, to AES, on a F-28. Then on a 737 via, BOO, EVE to TOS. Stayed over night. Next day TOS-ALF with SK DC-9. On vacation for 4 weeks. The return was a DHT from HFT to TOS via ALF and SOJ. We stayed in TOS a few days together with mom and dad before we all fly via AES to FBU, now OSL.

  • @olivercunningham8120
    @olivercunningham8120 4 роки тому +3

    Me: **looks at thumbnail*
    Also me: dude that just the in between of your car seat and the drinks holder

  • @daveneill5358
    @daveneill5358 4 роки тому +16

    In the US, that's a standard level of cleanliness for American and Delta.

  • @janellek21
    @janellek21 4 роки тому +1

    A 5 star rating on Skytrax only means you paid Skytrax a larger bribe. That cabin was disgusting! I don't know if I'd be able to put up with that for even 40 minutes.
    My first solo flight was at 14: CHS-ATL-MAN on Delta. I had a footb...er...soccer match that I didn't want to miss, so Mum and Dad let me fly back to England to visit family for Christmas a day later. I was too old for the unaccompanied minor service so I didn't get the enhanced cabin service, but we did use miles to upgrade me to business class. The biz class seat was comfy but the inflight service was terrible. The FA's were geriatric and rude. I was treated better on the train ride from MAN to Liverpool Lime St.

  • @DownUnderFlyer
    @DownUnderFlyer 4 роки тому +1

    Until last year, Ethiopian flew a 787 between Brazzaville and Kinshasa, before returning to Addis Ababa. The distance is just 14 nautical miles and the average flight time was 12 minutes.
    There are still 737s that make the short hop, belonging to TAAG Angola and Asky, but sadly no 787s.

  • @MosheArcade
    @MosheArcade 4 роки тому +8

    787 is a very recent aircraft
    There is no excuse, they should be cleaning the aircraft every time

    • @daveschwartz5893
      @daveschwartz5893 4 роки тому

      If you consider 2012 recent sure. No excuse though. I've been on aircraft built in the 90s that were spotless. That months of filth.

  • @jemibamaiyi1054
    @jemibamaiyi1054 4 роки тому +8

    It was emirates, Nigeria to Dubai. I was twelve and very excited. The fact it was first class made it even better.

  • @davidbarnett9312
    @davidbarnett9312 4 роки тому +1

    First flight: June 1962 aboard Trans Texas Airways DC-3. Shortest flight: Same airplane. We took off from Dallas Love Field and ten minutes later we landed at Amon Carter Field in Ft. Worth. Parked next door at Carswell AFB were strategic B-58 bombers. The flight to Austin took a little longer. Only one stewardess for this small plane.
    The trashed out plane is a disgrace. Notwithstanding the fact that folks world wide dump their trash on the highways and byways of the world, at least the airlines have a service that's supposed to clean the aircraft. After seeing the flying garbage dump, I wonder what their maintenance standards are like....

  • @CongletonMike
    @CongletonMike 4 роки тому +1

    My earliest flights as an adult was British Caledonian on a BAC 1-11 from Gatwick to Glasgow, and return on a BA Trident Shuttle to Heathrow. This is when they sold the tickets on the plane, just like a bus conductor.

  • @meanone111
    @meanone111 4 роки тому +8

    The cleanliness is indeed terrible. So gross!

  • @kinghenrymiller2629
    @kinghenrymiller2629 4 роки тому +7

    I would have run off that plane when it landed and disinfected my hands. LOL

    • @largol33t1
      @largol33t1 4 роки тому +1

      Paul should have booked another flight on them and boarded in a full hazmat suit complete with backup oxygen tank. That will get the message across. But I don't think they would give a damn.

  • @polarbear2579
    @polarbear2579 4 роки тому

    First flights? SDF - FAR in 1964, with my parents, then annually therafter for several years. My first time alone (and back) was 1968 - I was 8, but experienced at flying. It required SDF-ORD on Eastern (a 727), ORD-MSP on United (a Caravelle, yes, really a Caravelle), then MSP-FAR on Northwest Orient on a Lockheed Electra. Of course, no security in those days, but even with the connections with other airlines, I required little assistance from airline personnel. Onboard entertainment, in those days, was whatever book or magazine you brought along, and each flight offered at least a sandwich and soda, despite being 1 hour flights. In the ensuing years, I've flown a lot of airlines that have folded, and, aside from SWA (the most common carrier out of SDF), I probably flew Eastern and Ozark more often than others.

  • @criollo
    @criollo 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Paul,
    My first flight was on an airline called Avensa, my first international flight was on Aeropostal and my first Atlantic Crossing was on Viasa, these were all flights before I turned 8 and moved to the UK, but like you, in the UK my first experience was with British Midland and their Fokker70 jets :)

  • @andremp03
    @andremp03 4 роки тому +4

    For such a new plane and being awarded for cleanliness - that is bloody disgusting!

  • @Ama-hi5kn
    @Ama-hi5kn 4 роки тому +7

    I guess their turnaround times are record low since they don't clean a damn thing, lol

  • @ryanfrisby7389
    @ryanfrisby7389 3 роки тому

    My first flight was with Delta, on the 717 to Atlanta from Lexington, followed by an MD-90 to Orlando, a week there, before a B737-700 back up to Atlanta which left about an hour late. It then circled, getting us in 2 hours late, which caused me to miss my flight back up to Lexington which would have been an MD-88. Luckily, Delta took care of me, and I ended up on a CRJ-900 operating as Delta Connection, by Endeavor. My next one was more recent as was from Lexington to Philadelphia on an ERJ-145 operating as American Eagle by Piedmont, then a B737-800 up to Boston, a week around New England, and then back to Boston with AA on the A320, and then another missed connection and was able to rebook to a PSA CRJ-700 to Lexington operating as American Eagle!

  • @euanmorse
    @euanmorse 4 роки тому +1

    The baggage claim at Edinburgh is ridiculous. It is such a small airport and they still cannot get it right. Previously I made excuses for it as I felt that you got to baggage claim so quickly that it just seemed like a long time to wait relative to other bigger airports, but no, it's just slow.
    Edinburgh Airport are making strides to expand and become a global player, but frankly the security and baggage claim sections are too slow and the terminal itself is too small. They really need to add another runway (which won't happen) if they want to actually become relevant.
    With Brexit looming, the British Government also need to reconsider the tax on premium cabins. It is 100% deterring people from paying for a Premium cabin when flying to and from the UK. I recently flew to Tokyo via Qatar. I booked in Economy and then just upgraded the sections from Doha to Haneda and back, whilst staying in economy for the flights to and from Edinburgh. It just doesnt make sense that the upgrade for a 12 hour flight was £300 cheaper than for a 6 hour flight!
    Sorry, I'm definitely rambling now...

  • @stoehrcov
    @stoehrcov 4 роки тому +8

    Paul that looked like poop on you sat on!! Sir pack a bio hazard suit next time

  • @inomad
    @inomad 4 роки тому +9

    The cleanliness reminds me of my most recent “first class” flight on United domestic.

  • @bobbernstein8824
    @bobbernstein8824 4 роки тому +1

    Oh, and first flight with family was on a Bonanza Airlines prop aircraft. Bonanza was eventually merged into a western US regional carrier, Air West, which was bought by billionaire Howard Hughes and turned into Hughes Airwest. It was later purchased and merged into United Airlines. First flight on my own was on Western Airlines, which was eventually bought up by Delta.

  • @davet11
    @davet11 4 роки тому +1

    Someone's clearly sharted up that seat. Blew out their rubber gasket.
    I never trust fabric covered seats on public transportation.....surprised that an airline would still use them.
    Yeh if they can't keep the cabin clean you can bet the fuel filters are all clogged too. I once flew economy on United from SFO to Singapore that was that filthy. Big scratched dirty jugs of tepid tapwater and the food was well crusted between the seats. Return flight was premium economy and it was the total opposite..... meticulous and great service. I really think they're just treating economy passengers like farm animals now.
    First flight- British Caledonian back in the 80s from Glasgow to Dallas.....still my favorite airline since it's all been downhill since then.
    Brilliant video Paul..... I'll remember to pack a diaper if I ever have to sit on one of those foam fabric seats. Wear it outside in over my pants throughout the flight.

  • @johnstokes5738
    @johnstokes5738 4 роки тому +3

    First airline was BOAC from Heathrow to Kingsford Smith Australia in 1964 on a 707.

  • @berendbrowny
    @berendbrowny 4 роки тому +23

    In The Netherlands we would say: gadverdamme

    • @raphaels316
      @raphaels316 4 роки тому +1

      In Mexico, we would say:
      Ay Dios Mio!

    • @HCD488
      @HCD488 4 роки тому

      In switzerland we would say : nothing an vomit 😂

  • @wirkola1
    @wirkola1 4 роки тому

    First time I flew alone was with Braathens S·A·F·E from Tromsø to Oslo in a Boing 737-200. In those days most of the flights was not direct routes. My flight left Tromsø and landed in Bodø, Trondheim Ålesund, Bergen and then to Oslo. If I remember correct the year was 1987. It was a great flight with food service on every leg. Different times. Thanks for another interesting video.

  • @railplanetraveller
    @railplanetraveller 4 роки тому

    My first flight in and out of Dublin back in the early 90’s was memorable because I got to fly on an Aer Lingus BAE 146 and on the way out on a British World BAC 111 operating on behalf of Aer Lingus

  • @janicesullivan8942
    @janicesullivan8942 4 роки тому +3

    I would have turned around (because of the seat stain alone), got off the plane, and demanded a refund.

  • @kdp8133
    @kdp8133 4 роки тому +7

    My first flight was Laker Airways DC10 Gatwick to Oakland

    • @juancarlosgomez-montejano2961
      @juancarlosgomez-montejano2961 4 роки тому +1

      Gill P love the DC-10! Mine was similar. Aeromexico from TIJ to MAD via MEX with a Stop in GDL: flights AM111 converted AM001

  • @mikecrean8849
    @mikecrean8849 4 роки тому

    Hi Paul. First flight from Edinburgh exactly 50 years ago. BEA in an old Vanguard 4 engine turbo prop. Rattled down Edinburgh’’s old runway very noisy and everything rattled. Still very noisy in flight but good cabin service in those days. Full meal on short flight to Heathrow.
    Return from Gatwick a week later. First jet flight with BCAL on a BAC 111. Again excellent on board service with full silver service meal. Great days. 50 years ago but flying was a super experience then. Love your videos. Best wishes Mike.

  • @simonemurrin7099
    @simonemurrin7099 4 роки тому

    Another great video and a very fair review considering, thanks Paul! I’ve sadly flown very little but as a youngster in the 80’s I wanted to work cabin crew for TWA and I would have loved to have experienced flying on Concorde. Look forward to the next video!

  • @jamiecooke1985
    @jamiecooke1985 4 роки тому +33

    Paul, have you been affected by the British airways strikes at all?

    • @thwalesproductions
      @thwalesproductions 4 роки тому +4

      The BA strikes haven't started yet we'll the massive one anyways

    • @johnnyp9205
      @johnnyp9205 4 роки тому +1

      Well not we’ll

    • @markthomson5534
      @markthomson5534 4 роки тому

      Tyiler Hanks em yes they have!!

    • @barrygower6733
      @barrygower6733 4 роки тому +1

      Tyiler Hanks The two-day strike on 9&10 September took place and BA are cancelling flights now ahead of the strike at the end of the month.

    • @polashisu4641
      @polashisu4641 4 роки тому

      If it hasn't started yet then I know some people who are about to get fired

  • @Boffin55
    @Boffin55 4 роки тому +5

    First flight by myself was RTM-LHR on a KLM DC9

    • @cheeta92
      @cheeta92 4 роки тому

      Nice, live near RTM but never take a flight from there 😔

  • @CarlD08
    @CarlD08 4 роки тому +1

    My first solo flight was on Ryanair, which is not very interesting. However my first ever flight was with my parents to Orlando Florida many years ago and that was onboard an Orion Airways plane. We didn't book with them directly, so we think the plane was wet leased. We nicknamed the plane "The Flying Pig" as it wasn't exactly luxurious, and we even spotted bits falling off one of the engines!

  • @seanwalsh8742
    @seanwalsh8742 4 роки тому +1

    Just a few points:
    - At the time of recording (based on your Instagram stories) Hainan was operating six flights per week; two to Beijing via Edinburgh, two to Beijing directly, and two to Shenzhen.
    - I feel that you may have been unlucky on this flight as I have flown on Hainan from Dublin to both Edinburgh and Beijing this year, and overall a total of seven times with them in the last year, and I've never had any problems with the cleanliness of the aircraft.
    - In regards to the dirt in the form of the coffee cup and pint glass left out beside the window, unfortunately that's nothing new in the airport.

  • @pilotmariov
    @pilotmariov 4 роки тому +5

    Medellín - Bogotá by Avianca is just a 25 minute flight.

  • @MrLetmein2011
    @MrLetmein2011 4 роки тому

    My first flying experiences were from Dublin to Manchester (regularly ) to see family . Then it was either a British Airways BAC1-11 or an Are Lingus Boeing 737 , I did however fly once from Heathrow to Dublin on a Hawker Siddeley Trident which as an 11 year old Aviation buff was a huge treat .

  • @howardscott1556
    @howardscott1556 4 роки тому +2

    First flight on my own was on a Janus Airways Dart Herald from Lydd to Ostend. You'd struggle to get a flight out of Lydd these days.

  • @Travelwithnicolas
    @Travelwithnicolas 4 роки тому +6

    When parents asked me what my dream was in life, and I said to be pinned by Paul Lucas

  • @MrPonca77
    @MrPonca77 4 роки тому +3

    Makes one wonder how much they are skimping on actual maintenance.

  • @swmike
    @swmike 4 роки тому +1

    My first memory of flying is domestic in Sweden in the 80ties. I was travelling alone at age 12 or so, trip to Stockholm went fine, then got stuck 6 hours in Stockholm because of weather, and then flying a Fokker 27 (I believe) prop plane through a snowstorm to Sundsvall. That was not a pleasant experience.

  • @andyrichardsvideovlogs8835
    @andyrichardsvideovlogs8835 4 роки тому +1

    First commercial flight? Lufthansa 737-200 from MAN-DUS. With 12 on board it took off like a rocket from a very short roll. Return flight, that evening as it was a day trip for business was on a BA Bac 1-11 packed to the gills. It was also the only time I've ever been allowed to use the rear airstairs out of the tail. Damn Health & Safety nowadays.

  • @madingwang7778
    @madingwang7778 4 роки тому +6

    Hainan is good, but I don’t think it is 5 star

  • @stevedgrossman
    @stevedgrossman 4 роки тому +8

    Paul... do you complain directly to the airline, when this happens?

    • @sotonjoe
      @sotonjoe 4 роки тому +1

      Seems not. He did use some mildly strong words in his video commentary though.

    • @Paul_Lucas
      @Paul_Lucas  4 роки тому +4

      No, it serves no real purpose and I don’t want any recompense from the airline anyway.

    • @koverpy426
      @koverpy426 4 роки тому +1

      @@Paul_Lucas Right on point. Don't bother. HNA's financial mess is still continuing. It deserved it. Stay away from this dark state-involved cancer.

    • @JGrandcourt
      @JGrandcourt 4 роки тому

      Wingin’ It! Paul Lucas I am surprised that you didn’t. At that level of disgusting filth an email with a couple of stills of your video should have been sent to their IRE/UK office. I realise it is pointless to complain to the crew unless you wanted to move.
      At that level Of filth I would have complained. While they may not do anything for you, it might be an issue to address with the crew/cleaning contractor. You might find the corporate office may not like it. At least you aired it and it should have more of an impact than most of us individuals ever could. Thanks for the great videos!

  • @PhilLin
    @PhilLin 4 роки тому +2

    That's such a shame, I've had good experiences on Hainan Airlines, so I hope you try them again!

  • @johnknox9189
    @johnknox9189 4 роки тому

    My first flight was in 1948 from Montreal to Shannon (Ireland) on TCA (Trans Canada Airlines). Myself and my brother were travelling alone. I was 8, he was 7. The plane was a 4 prop DC6. It was a wonderful experience. We were brought up to the flight deck and got to sit in the co-pilots seat.

  • @Bahamas-rd8le
    @Bahamas-rd8le 4 роки тому +3

    Im so sorry you had a bad fight, but hey-ho these things happen.

  • @ForOnlyTheMusic
    @ForOnlyTheMusic 4 роки тому +4

    My first solo flight is this Thursday! I'm going from Heathrow to Osaka Kansai International (via Dubai) with Emirates and I'm terrified 😂

    • @b_4219
      @b_4219 4 роки тому +1

      Emirates is a 5-star airline and I've heard so many good things about them that I don't think you should be scared. I think you'll enjoy that flight! 😉

    • @FrostoLP
      @FrostoLP 4 роки тому +1

      quen of pop medoner Hainan Airlines is 5-star as well though... But yeah, Emirates is pretty good

    • @b_4219
      @b_4219 4 роки тому +1

      @@FrostoLP I mean, yeah, Hainan technically is rated 5 stars, but I think it's more of a 3- / 4-star one (as this video also shows).

    • @FrostoLP
      @FrostoLP 4 роки тому +1

      quen of pop medoner Was more of a joke, I expected that one probably will not get it

  • @peterbrameld696
    @peterbrameld696 4 роки тому

    I love the videos, thank you. I first flew with an air line called Dan Air, I took a picture of the plane, imagine my sadness when a few weeks later the front page of my paper showed the tail fin complete with number ( G-APDN ) of my plane that had crashed.

  • @blazinblueberry865
    @blazinblueberry865 4 роки тому

    I work in DUB, word on the grapevine is the Hainan and Cathay routes from DUB will return for the summer schedule in March, as for the drink empties, well the 300 gates where you were are used the most in DUB, with the first Lufthansa and Aer Lingus flights departing at 05:00 and the last flights departing around 02:00 Blue Air to Bacau, Air Moldova to Chinisaru, Aegean to Athens, Arkia to tel vive and Aeroflot to Moscow. the pub at that set of gates stays open the entire time the gates there are being used. So people are drinking at all hours of the day whether its business travellers or a hen party XD