How come China so welcomes Tesla EV with such high volume sale allowing Musk earning big money and yet the US refuses to allow Chinese EV sales in the US with 100% tariff. This is no fair trade practice as the US always complains about China.
I have the Geely Smart #1 Brabus here in the UK 🇬🇧 I’ve done 6,800 miles so far. Yesterday I received the third OTA update giving it even more features including V2L ❤
@@garrycroft4215 same with our BYD Seal - bongs gone, Apple Car Play now wireless, lane tracking improving . In years of Tesla > b/all of substance and now stripped out of chips/sensors in order to prop up the margin.
I would like to point out that this ranking is based on the data from July 2024. However, if you look at the data from the first half of the year, from January to July, you will find that the BYD Qin is in the first place with a sales volume of 271,082; the second place is Tesla's Model Y with a sales volume of 244,116. If you look at the total brand sales volume in July alone, BYD has 340,000, and Tesla has over 70,000, with BYD's total sales volume being nearly about five times that of Tesla.
@@alphaomega1969 This video is model specific. Most us know that BYD is dominating the market in China. Its true thought that most people don't seem to appreciate the fact that Tesla is just a niche player with small market share. Its future existence in China over the next 5 years is at risk. FSD won't affect that much. AI robot won't save it. Energy storage won't save it.
BYD Song tops the chart The BYD Song was the best-selling EV in China last year, repeating its 2022 success. The model finished 2023 more than 100,000 units ahead of the second-place Tesla Model Y.
Sorry… I’m not comparing a technology that blows. Comparing a hybrid with the #1 selling car in the world, not just China. Hybrids are a thing of the past, not the future.
My neighbour gave me a lift to town in his new Tesla recently to pick up my car after the aircon was fixed. I was amazed at how bland the interior of the car was, a bit like IKEA. It was quiet inside but a fair bit of tyre noise and rumble. Pretty boring, I just don’t understand the attraction of these cars. My neighbour is not overly happy with it as it doesn’t meet the advertised range between charges. But he doesn’t care much, it’s just a town car and they use their ICE car for lengthy road trips.
Prices are low in China because the government poured hundreds of billions into the industry to give it market dominance - so the Chinese government has already paid for a portion of each vehicle by the time it goes on sale = unrealistic price in comparison to its actual manufacturing cost.
@@jsanders100 they have to stay competitive in a subsidised market. A headline in Forbes from late last year: “Tesla Sells 33% Of Vehicles Below Average Cost, BYD Pulls Ahead”.
@@dcartier1692 That is not the reason. The Chinese government hasn't been doing that since 2018. The reason for cheap EVs in China is due to high degree of vertical integration. For BYD, it's between 70 to 80%.
@@simon-c2y we are saying basically the same thing. People love to say Tesla EV percentage is dropping which is the dumbest metric in the world. Even if you make 7 million cars one year and have 100% of the market and you make 10 million the next year and someone make one car, your percentage drops. It’s dumb.
الان المستقبل للشركة التى تصنع تكنولوجيا سياره يتم شحنها في وقت أسرع ومدى أبعد من باقي السيارات الكهربائية في السوق عندها ستكون الشركة رقم وأحد في العالم
The company that will be number #1 in the world will be the company that can lose the most money selling cars because they have government backing. All the better if it is a good car. A private company can not out compete a large government.
Your forecast in 2022 that Tesla #1, BYD #4, by 2030 seems way off, right. VW had 70% of the small car market at one time in the US, and then they almost disappeared. I see a similar drop for Tesla. I doubt the Chinese government will extend the super deal it gave Tesla early on. They are more likely to disadvantage it now that China doninates the EV market in volume and quality.
The title is misleading, byd has more models and sold lot more than tesla, tesla is not number 1,the title should be the model y is the best seling ev in china.
I don't know performance-wise about the BYD Dolphin, but just on looks, the Dolphin is too old school or yesterday in looks. Just the look alone turned people away from buying it. BYD need to make it look more sporty, and not old style.
FinFET time is over now. Now until 2028 it's GAA Nanosheet. From 2028 until 2032 it's GAA Forksheet. From 2032 to 2036 it's CFET. From 2036 on it's atomic CFET. If you don't know what that means: it's the evolution of transistor technology...becoming more and more like the processing within the neural structure of our brains...which is way more energy efficient.
At least from what I've read, Teslas coming out of Gigafactory Shanghai are pretty well built. Hopefully, they won't suffer the innumerable battery problems that have plagued most Chinese EV brands.
I’ve owned BMWs for over 30 years. Nothing about BMW anything is compelling. Their software sucks. Why would you ever buy an i4? Seriously… I do t understand.
@@joelhopkins421 well, I also have a BMW X5M series. It was in for service for the 3rd time this year under warranty and an out of pocket $3,600 brake job. Pissed me off… it only has 47k miles… They gave me a BMW I4 and I returned it. They then gave me a BMW iX with a $97k price tag on it. The software is just bad. It doesn’t really do anything. The charger is so big and bulky. I went to a damn EA charger just to try it and the hand shake to make a payment was enough for me. It failed 4 times. Two chargers were broken and I had to wait for a guy to stop charging so I could. Brutal. I wish you luck.
Just over 5% sold cars in china are tesla's. BYD is above 35%. No way that tesla will rise there. It will fall lower and lower by the lack of new models and better ones from the chinese itself. Not to forget that many of the tesla drivers would not go for musk's cars anymore because of...you know why. We will see what the coming months will tell us;)
You can always watch other channels btw, but I'm sure Sam's thankful for your time on his channel as well. Salt is abundant, you don't need to add to that supply.
Based on some reviewer of Chinese EVs, they are a bit glitchy and design are not always best. Driving experience may also be variable. Tesla remains gold standard by which other EVs will be compared to.
The Chinese are very discerning. They know Tesla FSD is about to be launched in China and that it is light years ahead of all the lidar based systems available in China. When Juniper comes out next year, Tesla will become a monopoly in the higher end of the market.
Hahhaha ive tried FSD in cali and huawei version in shenzhen, im gonna tell u tesla FSD may cost a lot of trouble for tesla.FSD required to be taken over quite frequently and drive like a beginner driver, Chinese road condition is much more complex than US
Would love to see a Chinese EV that can be lived in. Solar panels on the body. Tall enough to stand inside. A bathroom with toilet and shower. A refrigerator. 2 hotplate cooktop. A stow-able bed and table for 2. A kitchen sink. And storage space. The bed should be folded away when not in use.
2 weeks ago he said sales in China were up 40% and worldwide 20%. Now he says China is only up 21%! I love coming here just to watch him contradict himself!
You've seen some criticism from me so here's a fun one. I just watched a vid about a company in London converting old 80's-90's Land Rovers. Awesome. The cost is low enough now that it's basically the same or even less than rebuilding an ICE drive train if you're restoring a classic car. Engines, transmissions and all the other stuff for these cars is getting hard to find and it's very expensive while EV conversion parts are coming down in price enough to make sense and that curve is only going to get better so I think the classic car industry could be seeing a revolution too in the future. Right now it's supported by old guys who grew up with these cars but younger people will be more open minded.
Tesla is no longer a startup, so their EV lineup is a bit limited and may I say, boring. We should request Tesla to make new models, inject some excitement into their EV offerings. There’s a big gap between models 3, Y and the premium models S, X. Tesla should fill up that gap.
I think Musk should sell Tesla (cars) to the Chinese, I don't think he has time for this anymore. Plus he doesn't want a company around his neck that is losing on profits all the time. I reckon space, media and politics will dominate him
In Q1 of 2023, Starlink achieved ”breakeven cash flow”, SpaceX turned a profit in 2023. Tesla is profitable in auto and energy. Looks good to me. If you have not noticed BEVs are in a race to the bottom. Staying profitable is the key. Larger CAPX spent on new vehicles that compete with existing similar vehicles from government backed Chinese companies is a bad bad choice.
Dude Tesla is a Chinese startup investment to boost US economy due to trade deficit. The Chinese are the largest investor helping US pay back their debt. Also spacex are also Chinese startup instment. Thats how Elon is able to make profit using the Chinese copy cat patents accumulated over the past 3 decade. That is the irony lol
Elon Musk has utterly abandoned Tesla shareholders in just so many ways it's difficult to understand how the SEC and DOJ can continue to allow the management standards of listed corporations can be brought into such disrepute without consequences. Being gullible doesn't mean you should expect fraudulent management to not be held to account for taking advantage of you.
Elon Musk has made his shareholders rich. Here's a fact for your dim little mind. Tesla is more profitable than Ford and GM combined. Here's another fact that will explode your tiny brain. The Model Y is the best-selling car in the world. Wow, you just can't fix stupid.
What a uniformed and clueless comment about Elon and shareholders. Compare Musk’s performance (TSLA) to any EV start up or legacy manufacture over the past 10 years! All are way behind Tesla in stock performance and financial stability. Tesla has the highest Altman Z score of any car manufacturer.
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How come China so welcomes Tesla EV with such high volume sale allowing Musk earning big money and yet the US refuses to allow Chinese EV sales in the US with 100% tariff. This is no fair trade practice as the US always complains about China.
@michaelloong964 because China did it to the world from the 1980's up until ~2009. 80% tariffs forced foreign automakers into 50/50 joint ventures.
I have the Geely Smart #1 Brabus here in the UK 🇬🇧 I’ve done 6,800 miles so far.
Yesterday I received the third OTA update giving it even more features including V2L ❤
Congrats!
Geely is a very good brand and the pride of us from Zhejiang.
@@garrycroft4215 same with our BYD Seal - bongs gone, Apple Car Play now wireless, lane tracking improving . In years of Tesla > b/all of substance and now stripped out of chips/sensors in order to prop up the margin.
I would like to point out that this ranking is based on the data from July 2024. However, if you look at the data from the first half of the year, from January to July, you will find that the BYD Qin is in the first place with a sales volume of 271,082; the second place is Tesla's Model Y with a sales volume of 244,116. If you look at the total brand sales volume in July alone, BYD has 340,000, and Tesla has over 70,000, with BYD's total sales volume being nearly about five times that of Tesla.
Yes you are right, I dont know what he's smoking lol
@@alphaomega1969 This video is model specific. Most us know that BYD is dominating the market in China.
Its true thought that most people don't seem to appreciate the fact that Tesla is just a niche player with small market share. Its future existence in China over the next 5 years is at risk. FSD won't affect that much. AI robot won't save it. Energy storage won't save it.
BYD Song tops the chart
The BYD Song was the best-selling EV in China last year, repeating its 2022 success. The model finished 2023 more than 100,000 units ahead of the second-place Tesla Model Y.
BYD Song is PHEV, not included in this BEV chart, combinedly BYD sold 340k cars in July, BEV 140k, PHEV 200k
Sorry… I’m not comparing a technology that blows. Comparing a hybrid with the #1 selling car in the world, not just China. Hybrids are a thing of the past, not the future.
Geely will I believe overtake build your dreams maybe
My neighbour gave me a lift to town in his new Tesla recently to pick up my car after the aircon was fixed. I was amazed at how bland the interior of the car was, a bit like IKEA. It was quiet inside but a fair bit of tyre noise and rumble. Pretty boring, I just don’t understand the attraction of these cars. My neighbour is not overly happy with it as it doesn’t meet the advertised range between charges. But he doesn’t care much, it’s just a town car and they use their ICE car for lengthy road trips.
@@binarybob9644 the attraction is 0 emisiones and low maintanence
I wish we had the same prices here in the UK
Prices are low in China because the government poured hundreds of billions into the industry to give it market dominance - so the Chinese government has already paid for a portion of each vehicle by the time it goes on sale = unrealistic price in comparison to its actual manufacturing cost.
@@dcartier1692but how does that apply for Tesla?
@@jsanders100 they have to stay competitive in a subsidised market.
A headline in Forbes from late last year: “Tesla Sells 33% Of Vehicles Below Average Cost, BYD Pulls Ahead”.
@@dcartier1692 That is not the reason. The Chinese government hasn't been doing that since 2018. The reason for cheap EVs in China is due to high degree of vertical integration. For BYD, it's between 70 to 80%.
@@Ned-zl1qt from Bloomberg 21 June, 2024 - “China’s EV Makers Got $231 Billion Aid Over 15 Years, Study Says”
Its the volume that matters not the percentage.
Percentage of ALL CAR SALES is what matters.
@@GET2222 yeah I see what you mean - don't care if it's Tesla or whoever, more EVs is what matters.
@@simon-c2y we are saying basically the same thing. People love to say Tesla EV percentage is dropping which is the dumbest metric in the world. Even if you make 7 million cars one year and have 100% of the market and you make 10 million the next year and someone make one car, your percentage drops. It’s dumb.
الان المستقبل للشركة التى تصنع تكنولوجيا سياره يتم شحنها في وقت أسرع ومدى أبعد من باقي السيارات الكهربائية في السوق
عندها ستكون الشركة رقم وأحد في العالم
The company that will be number #1 in the world will be the company that can lose the most money selling cars because they have government backing. All the better if it is a good car. A private company can not out compete a large government.
@@danharold3087
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given that the monthly car sales per month in China is about 2million, these top 10 manufacturers make up about 12% what are the rest buying?
Just lots of models. These are the top models, not brands
Hybrids & Plug-in hybrids
Your forecast in 2022 that Tesla #1, BYD #4, by 2030 seems way off, right.
VW had 70% of the small car market at one time in the US, and then they almost disappeared. I see a similar drop for Tesla. I doubt the Chinese government will extend the super deal it gave Tesla early on. They are more likely to disadvantage it now that China doninates the EV market in volume and quality.
Well done in admitting Tesla is subpar.
#1,# 2 best selling vehicle
The title is misleading, byd has more models and sold lot more than tesla, tesla is not number 1,the title should be the model y is the best seling ev in china.
I cant stand Elon but kudos to him for his early adoption
of emerging technologies and the balls to back himself.
I don't know performance-wise about the BYD Dolphin, but just on looks, the Dolphin is too old school or yesterday in looks. Just the look alone turned people away from buying it. BYD need to make it look more sporty, and not old style.
FinFET time is over now.
Now until 2028 it's GAA Nanosheet.
From 2028 until 2032 it's GAA Forksheet.
From 2032 to 2036 it's CFET.
From 2036 on it's atomic CFET.
If you don't know what that means: it's the evolution of transistor technology...becoming more and more like the processing within the neural structure of our brains...which is way more energy efficient.
Always a defending champion!
At least from what I've read, Teslas coming out of Gigafactory Shanghai are pretty well built. Hopefully, they won't suffer the innumerable battery problems that have plagued most Chinese EV brands.
This is not true, sales in China have dropped, BYD is the #1 in sales in China
Viking only supports Tesla or Geely because they are paying him
how about reading other comments? Then you would have found out that NEVs are not BEVs. Check again.
I put a deposit on a bmw i4 demo 2023 today. Has 3500ks on it and paid $64500. They haven’t sold any in 3 to 4 weeks.
I’ve owned BMWs for over 30 years. Nothing about BMW anything is compelling. Their software sucks. Why would you ever buy an i4? Seriously… I do t understand.
@@GET2222 I’ve had a model 3 2021 before and want something different. My wife drives a 2019 model s.
@@joelhopkins421 well, I also have a BMW X5M series. It was in for service for the 3rd time this year under warranty and an out of pocket $3,600 brake job. Pissed me off… it only has 47k miles…
They gave me a BMW I4 and I returned it. They then gave me a BMW iX with a $97k price tag on it. The software is just bad. It doesn’t really do anything. The charger is so big and bulky. I went to a damn EA charger just to try it and the hand shake to make a payment was enough for me. It failed 4 times. Two chargers were broken and I had to wait for a guy to stop charging so I could. Brutal.
I wish you luck.
@GET2222 so, you've owned BMW'S for over 30 yrs and are unable to find anything compelling about them. That makes perfect sense to me. 😅😅
I truly think the refreshed Model Y will be the best car in the world
It already the best selling car model in the world last year
Afternoon mate
you're right Teslas are boring to look at. There are much nicer looking Chinese EV'S
Cheers mate
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Just over 5% sold cars in china are tesla's. BYD is above 35%. No way that tesla will rise there. It will fall lower and lower by the lack of new models and better ones from the chinese itself. Not to forget that many of the tesla drivers would not go for musk's cars anymore because of...you know why. We will see what the coming months will tell us;)
1st.
Thank you.
You're welcome 😊
The Dolphin sales are down because it’s a pile of cheap shit. The Zeekr now that’s a real competitor to Tesla…
The Zeekr looks good, have recommended it to my niece.
Oh a chart thank goodness I can look at that and not have to listen to you going on and on about Tesla!!!
You can always watch other channels btw, but I'm sure Sam's thankful for your time on his channel as well. Salt is abundant, you don't need to add to that supply.
17 million
Based on some reviewer of Chinese EVs, they are a bit glitchy and design are not always best. Driving experience may also be variable. Tesla remains gold standard by which other EVs will be compared to.
The Chinese are very discerning. They know Tesla FSD is about to be launched in China and that it is light years ahead of all the lidar based systems available in China. When Juniper comes out next year, Tesla will become a monopoly in the higher end of the market.
😂😂😂 where did you get your brain washed?
Hahhaha ive tried FSD in cali and huawei version in shenzhen, im gonna tell u tesla FSD may cost a lot of trouble for tesla.FSD required to be taken over quite frequently and drive like a beginner driver, Chinese road condition is much more complex than US
FSD is trash in china . They have better huawei system
Would love to see a Chinese EV that can be lived in. Solar panels on the body. Tall enough to stand inside. A bathroom with toilet and shower. A refrigerator. 2 hotplate cooktop. A stow-able bed and table for 2. A kitchen sink. And storage space. The bed should be folded away when not in use.
2 weeks ago he said sales in China were up 40% and worldwide 20%. Now he says China is only up 21%!
I love coming here just to watch him contradict himself!
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What does that mean? 🤔
BYD EV'S 115 (GOING UP TO 130) TESLA EV'S 70 (GOING DOWN TO 60). ALL EXCLUSIVE HYBRID NEV'S (TESLA ZERO)
Why this Guy never Talk about the decliening sales of Tesla?Is he married to Elon?
You’re right Tesla does suck. It’s terrible. I agree and it will go bankrupt and it should.
You've seen some criticism from me so here's a fun one. I just watched a vid about a company in London converting old 80's-90's Land Rovers. Awesome. The cost is low enough now that it's basically the same or even less than rebuilding an ICE drive train if you're restoring a classic car. Engines, transmissions and all the other stuff for these cars is getting hard to find and it's very expensive while EV conversion parts are coming down in price enough to make sense and that curve is only going to get better so I think the classic car industry could be seeing a revolution too in the future. Right now it's supported by old guys who grew up with these cars but younger people will be more open minded.
Haters gonna hate, what can you do..I’m still up 1000% on Tesla so keep it up..not going anywhere..
Great news for Tesla. That the Chinese are prepared to pay extra for a Tesla compared to BYD speaks volumes.
There's always going to be that minority
It's the iPhone/Starbucks crowd
Doesn't mean they're rational
@@jaycehyou do realize the iPhone crowd are not a minority?
@@RexLucas-yo4cr ok... Define minority - numerically, and then tell me what's Apple's market share in China?
The title is misleading, because the sum of byd EVs are more than the model y and 3 together.
great, now look at total sum up number
This guy always smoking just to get money from views to feed his addiction 😂😂😂😂
Tesla is no longer a startup, so their EV lineup is a bit limited and may I say, boring. We should request Tesla to make new models, inject some excitement into their EV offerings. There’s a big gap between models 3, Y and the premium models S, X. Tesla should fill up that gap.
Request all you like. It won't change a thing. Chinese companies will dominate the EV market.
@timp1293 they want the Model Y to be like the Toyota Camry. High selling for decades while flashier cars came and went.
I think Musk should sell Tesla (cars) to the Chinese, I don't think he has time for this anymore. Plus he doesn't want a company around his neck that is losing on profits all the time. I reckon space, media and politics will dominate him
You really need to seek help Sunshine- deranged comes to mind.
In Q1 of 2023, Starlink achieved ”breakeven cash flow”, SpaceX turned a profit in 2023. Tesla is profitable in auto and energy. Looks good to me.
If you have not noticed BEVs are in a race to the bottom. Staying profitable is the key. Larger CAPX spent on new vehicles that compete with existing similar vehicles from government backed Chinese companies is a bad bad choice.
Dude Tesla is a Chinese startup investment to boost US economy due to trade deficit. The Chinese are the largest investor helping US pay back their debt. Also spacex are also Chinese startup instment. Thats how Elon is able to make profit using the Chinese copy cat patents accumulated over the past 3 decade. That is the irony lol
Elon Musk has utterly abandoned Tesla shareholders in just so many ways it's difficult to understand how the SEC and DOJ can continue to allow the management standards of listed corporations can be brought into such disrepute without consequences. Being gullible doesn't mean you should expect fraudulent management to not be held to account for taking advantage of you.
Yeah right WTF eva
Yeah moving into the energy sector was a real mistake.
Elon Musk has made his shareholders rich. Here's a fact for your dim little mind. Tesla is more profitable than Ford and GM combined. Here's another fact that will explode your tiny brain. The Model Y is the best-selling car in the world. Wow, you just can't fix stupid.
We should get Mary Barra. Lol
What a uniformed and clueless comment about Elon and shareholders. Compare Musk’s performance (TSLA) to any EV start up or legacy manufacture over the past 10 years! All are way behind Tesla in stock performance and financial stability. Tesla has the highest Altman Z score of any car manufacturer.