@@sydneybell9423 TRUE justice is when you get what you gave. Live by the sword, die by the sword. That is how those people lived and treated others, now they are drinking their own cup. BUT Jesus in the NEW Testament takes our cup and drinks it, so we have the option, choice, to turn away from our own evil and its consequences.... GOD is not evil... we are evil and need saving. Truth.
@Sydney Bell 1. That was a punishment for the ones in authority of those children, children don't lose anything from dying, the only ones who will be at loss and in grief are their authority(s); who want to grow them up evil like themselves. 2. God give life, and He takes life, God give punishments, and He gives rewards 3. God was there before the beginning of time, and He knows the future, so we will not always understand why He does the things that He do, He knows what He is doing and what should be done, He has reasons & a purpose, He has a plan, His end goal for the children of Earth is that they may be saved through Jesus Christ, accept Him as Savior, and follow Him(To love and share Him to others) so that we all may be in unity with God again.
@@sydneybell9423 why are you reading 3500 year old religious & cultural literature as if it applies in 2023? No, true Christians are doing the thing that is upsetting you. Back then an eye for an eye was true justice. It made everyone more equal so the rich & powerful received justice. Some people still think it applies today, BUT... Jesus said that it was the old way and will not apply to true believers. Jesus changed the culture and broke the endless cycle of 'you kill my child so I can kill yours.' He brought real change when He said "turn the other cheek". But I promise you... In big and small ways, you & I still struggle with that. So don't judge ancient things with modern understanding, while we still struggle as humans to let go of our ancient evil. Truth. (you are right in your feelings about that scripture AND wrong in your approach)
My youth paster really tries to drive home the point that CONTEXT is vital. You can't just grab a random verse and use it according to your own standards.
This. It is like having a historical record of your childhood and your parents saying enjoy being crippled without the context of them saying NOT to jump off the roof and do a double flip into the lawn but if you do it... Enjoy it and the consequences of it.
I feel really sad, and angry for them. I used to be a hardcore atheist not too long ago. The pain, darkness and intense anger I felt at all times was Soo miserable. When you get rid of God, you're left to carry every single thing onto yourself. You come to the conclusion that life has no meaning except the one that you give it, and you were just randomly formed. I can't imagine these two being happy. When you get rid of God, all there is is sadness, pain, anger, and the desire to never wake up again. You only wake up because you're too scared to ensure your own end. But your waking life is just pain, misery, addiction and pointless without GOD. Pray for them and others that turn away. They're hurting. Whether they were really one of us or not, I don't see the harm in praying for them.
You can't take that scripture out of context. That's not talking about everyone and anyone. That's talking about something specific, read the whole chapter. That verse isn't backing up something like eternal security
That verse doesn't say every single person who has apostased was never really a christian. In fact scripture speaks about people who will "depart from the faith" (Tim 4:1). You cannot depart from something if you were never really part of it.
@@vondolo8192 bad church experience is one thing, but they are picking verses that only shows how evil God is. It’s the same as using the Bible to justify abortion or slavery.
I like how you’re not bashing the guy and saying how wrong his actions are or anything, but you are addressing what’s being said and responding with respect and honesty. It’s nice to see some respect even to those who oppose you and your beliefs
John 15:15 “I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.” God is so good ❤
God really did lay it all out more than ever in the NT. Thousands and thousands of years of plans all laid out for all to know. Before then it was very much "God has mysterious ways" now its "God is having His way as He said"
@Don’t come for me unless I send for you 🤷 Bold of you to make such a an assumption about their past relationship with God. Are you truly saying that someone who accepts Jesus into their heart can never go back? And if they do then they were never an actual "Real Christian?"
@@Palendrome does he give a choice? Doesn't he know everything, and also set the parameters for reality. He knew that we would all sin and yet still created a world in which we would all sin. Why would anyone with even a fiber of morals do such a thing?
@@Topazdemonia If I may interject, as a believer..... The Lamb slain before/since the foundation of the world. Rev 13:8 The Cross was always plan A. God doesn't need a plan B, nor being God/Creator, is he afforded such a privilege.
love what you said! "it's not our role to defend or justify God" our role is to believe and trust in Him, that everything that happens (even the things we don't understand) is for our own good, and to obey His commands. it's so sad to have this ex worship pastors mock the very person that gave them their amazing talent. i'll pray for them to repent and come back to our Lord's loving arms
That sounds like some cult leader stuff. "We don't question the cult leader. We don't defend the dictator. We just blindly follow everything that he does. Even if it's something that we don't understand we never questioned it.we just trust him" That is some cult leader stuff
@@ayybeealternative1999 i never said anything about not questioning or blindly following. Blindly following someone is a religion, and like you said, something akin to cults. But Jesus is not religion. Jesus invites us to read His word, to meditate on it, to make questions. Sadly, a lot of this cult mentality has infiltrated the Church, and if a pastor or leader gets angry if you start questioning, you should leave. But God is open for conversation, He WANTS us to speak to Him, to ask so that He can reveal His mysteries to us. But His word must be understood spiritually, not rationally. That's why to you it may seem "cult leader stuff" to trust in things we cannot understand (yet!), but to us it's the essence of God: believe in Him, and then you'll see.
@@rivkeg7599 Good points! I like how you lovingly responded even though this "ab" guy was purposely twisting what you said! I would only add that I believe the Bible is absolutely able to be rationally understood! I believe God has given us all the evidence we need, and more, and that it's irrational to accept any worldview other than the Christian worldview. Just because I don't understand a single maths equation certainly doesn't mean I should throw out ALL the maths equations I DO know. Just because there is something we don't understand in the Christian worldview, doesn't mean we throw out the things we DO understand!
There was a time where I turned my back on God and I used to argue with my mom and use the very same tactics to argue against him but after I lived without him for a time and got Saved for real again I realized how great and loving and merciful he truly is.
I got a breakthrough/a revelation (whatever you want to call it) on the book of Leviticus. Upon reading it (while I was trying to answer something to another "atheist taking Bible out of context" moment), I feel like God revealed to me that this book is here to show us how great and Holy He is. He is Holy Holy Holy. God is telling us, "you think I am Holy, that's how much more Holy I am". He is so Holy that we can't understand, we think His judgement is too harsh because we ourselves are not Holy. We see ourselves being condemned because we fall short in so many ways. YET! God is soo good that He knows that we will never be able to reach this level of holiness with our sinful nature so He send to us Jesus. And now, even though we fail, by working out our salvation through obedience to Him, we can reach Him the LORD Most High! And walk in holiness and righteousness. It is a long way home but we will get there!
i recommend doing research about how subective morality doesnt work. it proves there IS objective morality, which is from God, and anyone who doesnt believe in God who claims there is objective morality is borrowing from the Christian worldview to make that claim
Too bad, they really do have good singing voices, but its more than likely they believed in the transactional idea of God. "I do what I'm supposed to, go to church, say my prayers, and YOU are supposed to give me what I want. You must live up to my standard or I will drag your name through the mud and leave you." Ironically living out exactly what they thought God was doing wrong.
1) Love the hat and 2) our old worship pastor claims that our church was "unjust" but what I mean by that is using he was using worldly standards instead of biblical
@@bibleboiben so the person was looking for inclusiveness for their sexuality in the church? Sad really 🥲. It's good that your church stood for righteousness. We can pray that God will convict that old worship leader again and make them see the error they commit
@Akinolu Olusina don't get me wrong. I hope they come back to who they were, but I don't think it's happening anytime soon because anytime they post, you can see them talking bad about our church. I remember before it was to much, he made a post about how the Y.P. is corrupting the Youth.
God is not cruel! He forgives me for my sins everyday. How bad they may be. He is always here for me. How could i consider God cruel? He has shown me nothing but grace.
They say he's cruel because they don't like accepting responsibility for their actions. God has said what happens when you sin and don't ask for forgiveness. I don't feel bad that God wiped out nations. He's THE judge.
@@migzy4704 No. It's because we don't like god killing babies and condoning owning people as property ,and being able to beat them as long as the get up after a day or two
@@travissimpson7829 What are you talking about bro?😂 God doesn't kill babies. If the whole feminist woman that tend to kill babies or evil men. And owning people as property? I don't remember God saying slavery is good. Humans do though. Some humans think slavery is good. You're literally blaming God for the evil of man. Also if God decides to take someone's life whether they be baby, man, woman. It's ok. He is the judge. He is the Lord. The king of the universe. You and make ain't nothing. We're nothing,but dust. From dust we emerge and to dust we will return. He made the rules and he was the authority and right to enact his will upon anyone. He is God. Man people have tried to go against him and they've all failed. You think it's unfair, but whole are you to say what is good or bad? You're just as flawed as me and every other person in this world. Difference is I acknowledge that and say God is perfect. He knows more than me. I submit to his will. Whatever he does I won't question because I have faith and trust in God.
"Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come. It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble." Luke 17:1-2 May the truth of their dishonesty catch up to them before the wrath of God does.
@@sydneybell9423 Okay so he wasnt validating anything. The context of that verse is simply just saying the consequences of causing a child/ new believer to fall into sin (doing bad) will be severe. That it indeed it would be better for such things to happen to them than the punishment they would receive. Let me put this way. If in this world (specifically let's say your government), a person who caused another person, especially a child, to do harm is to be punished and it would be considered just, then what's the difference here that makes it "barbaric"? Also if you don't mind, I'd just like to know if there's any reason why this seems to tug at you so harshly? If you have ill feelings towards the belief then I'm sorry for whatever may have caused that, but idk if this is the right way to go about handling it
@Sydney Bell No. I can see why you see this passage as being barbaric and my comment being a validation of their point. Having someone be drowned in the sea with a millstone around their neck seems rather extreme, but to understand this passage, you first have to under stand the severity of sin and God's response to it. Romans 5:12 states the fallowing, "Therefore just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned." Sin carries with it the curse of death. If we weren't sinful, we quite literally wouldn't die. God knew that if Adam and Eve ate of the tree that they would bring upon themselves and their offspring the curse of death. God told them not to do this and even warned them of what would happen if they did, but they still ate of its fruit anyways. Since God is a just god, he has to punish sin, and since the act of sin brings about death, he has to punish sin with death. This is why Jesus said it would be better to be drowned than to cause anther to sin. If the punishment for sin is already death, how much greater will the punishment be for the one who causes someone to sin? When I said Amen, I was mostly responding to IvnMrtinz last statement. My hope is that the ex-pastor and his wife come to realize the severity of their sin and repent so that they won't meet the punishment of God. (Post Commenting) So I did some research into the nature of sin and came to the realization that I was wrong about why God punishes sin with death. The curse of death is actually something God made. We know that God is the creator of all things, both the laws of physics and nature included. We also know that the curse of death effects us in a very physical way. Therefore, we have to conclude that the curse of death is of God's creation and apart of his judgment upon us for our sin. Physical death for our physical being and spiritual death in hell for our spiritual being. But if he's not punishing sin with death because of the curse of death, then why does he choose to punish sin with death? When I asked my pastor about this, he said something to this degree. Our purpose is to love God and enjoy him; we are to bring him glory. This is life and it is both a responsibility and a gift from our heavenly father. So when we sin, we abuse this privilege. Therefore, the appropriate punishment for sin is to have this privilege taken away. That is why God punishes sin with death. Now I could be wrong again even with this conclusion and if I am, I ask for everyone's forgiveness. It's not my intention to lead anyone astray with my flawed understanding. I just want to help everyone better understand our King so that we can better appreciate his love for us.
@@mcben6611 an interesting view. Mine personally is this. God can't bare sin, and forever we would be separated from Him due to our sin. Immediately after Adam and Eve sinned God killed an animal and clothed them. Both to hide their nakedness, and to sacrifice an animal in their stead. The punishment for sin is death (I would say because of a curse, but because it is just). Death serves as the punishment of sin (and were it not for God's mercy and for Jesus we would all be dead). (This is my personal view that) Death also serves as a form of mercy so we aren't stuck in a sinful broken world for eternity, and be freed from their broken world to be with him freed of our sin and fallen State. But back to the first point. God Just, and every sin must be punished, and the punishment of sin is death. Thus animals were sacrificed until the ultimate sacrifice was provided in Jesus Christ, our lord, that he may pay for all our sins, and conquer death so that death need no longer be the end.
I couldn't smile or laugh about any of the songs..honestly made me burn inside with righteous anger listening to them. The Holy Spirit is grieved listening to this mockery.. May God have mercy on them and bring them back to true repentance and relationship with Christ.
Tag on “if the universe is inherently amoral.” They technically shouldn’t be able to say life is inherently good if there is no real morality. They always base morality on whether it hurts someone or lowers quality of life but they’re already assuming life is a standard of goodness…with nothing to back it up because they also say the universe is has no real morality.
Thanks for sharing, I went through their TikTok… they know it’s out of context, they don’t care, and don’t care how it influences those that don’t get it.
That’s the main problem. Apathy. They don’t care what’s true. It’s hard disagreeing with someone but it’s even harder if their response is “I don’t care” because it shuts down any meaningful discussion.
They are making a point. Pastors and worship leaders do this all the time. Yes, it’s much less obvious sometimes but this is literally what they’re pointing out with humor.
This video was clearly sent to me by God! I know someone who has been attacking Christianity for weeks now and has really hurt some of my Christian friends online. I’m gonna send this to them so that they may also feel encouraged. Thank you and God bless you! ❤
Whenever I see ex-Christians expressing their hatred towards their supposed former life, I look for one thing and find it almost every single time. Something that is rainbow colored. This fellow had a rainbow guitar strap. Its like the ex-Christian starter kit: rainbows, tattoos, out of context verses, and a humanist ideology that still oddly draws morality from the Christian world view.
😂 Love this! I’m gonna start looking out for that rainbow now. Really sucks how this world made the rainbow (Gods promise) into such a terrible icon for homosexuality.
That generally means perversion..I love rainbow things but not because the ne community stole them. For many who've left to hate God, they can pervert the truth. That is what I believe you are seeing. Nit just perversion sexually but perversion is not just sexual. It's perverting anything including the truth
@@buddy_132 I honestly hate that it's been co-opted because I honestly enjoy some rainbow designs and would happily wear it, but I don't want to be giving off the wrong messages/image.
They are probably people that believed that as Christians they were protected from something in this world and then it happened. Like a loved one dying or something happening to a child. Or saw other Christians behaving like sinners and attributed it to the Almighty. With these tictoks now being their response, there is clearly hate or resentment in their eyes towards the Lord. And definitely a lack of reading or understanding of the word. Makes me wish we could hear that story, they probably just need someone to talk to.
I really like watching people react to Tiktok videos, but often they are handled in a judgmental or negative way. I love how graciously you explained these in a positive way! Thanks, Isaac!
I so appreciate your heart to clarify the context of the scriptures. 🙏🏽Wow. This reminds me SO much of this passage and it clarifies so much how different people relate to God. Psalm 18:25-26 With the merciful you show yourself merciful; with the blameless man you show yourself blameless; with the purified you show yourself pure; and with the crooked you make yourself seem tortuous. God bless you brother…
Love it when people look into the context of verses! So many people just pull verses out of nowhere and say it’s true when the context adds so much to it!
There needs to be a proper fear and reverence for the Lord. He either pours out His wrath on us, or on His Son, so in His justice, He was merciful to us. Also the passage on braided hair and expensive clothes was actually on the fact that those were what prostitutes wore (Babylonian I believe). So more specifically, women weren't supposed to dress as the world did. They were called to be different.
I don't kbow if you have kids, but imagine your kid came home in a police car. You'd be pretty angry, and rightfully so. Depending on the crime, you might even be tempted to kick them out. But instead you take them back, try to reconcile the broken relationship. Some kids turn the right coner, others get a chip on their shoulder. This is what the gospel does. When we wrong our Lord and Father, we have to understand what we deserve, and be thankful for His mercy. As our fathers have disiplined us, God does the same. If God is the God of the universe, His creation needs to understand its proper place as created by Him. There's no authority beyond, beside, or even close to Him. No can give Him advice that He doesn't already know, or can change His mind.
@Sydney Bell So no one should be punished for hurting others and God shouldn’t enact any sort of justice and just let people keep doing evil with consequences. Got it.
in deuteronomy the cursing of parents isn't referring to simple cuss words it's actually trying to curse them. Also the kid likely isn't a little boy but moreso a man who hasn't taken the head of a household (See Michael Heiser 2 Kings 23-25 as he points out from another scholar that the term doesn't mean little boys)
@Sydney Bell Then you think very little of parents and don’t understand how evil it is to curse someone (again, not cuss words but actually desiring evil things to happen to them).
I found that I didn't really understand the OT ways when I didn't have a firm grasp of the gravity of sin everywhere... in me, and in everyone that Jesus saved. Thank God His mercies are new every morning, because I (and this country IMO) would have been toast a long time ago, and rightfully so. ♡
God's mercy truly is wonderful. We deserve judgement but because of his love we only get a seriously tempered version of it most times. Today the earth is reacting violently, wars, disasters, droughts and famine, fires and crisis everywhere. We offend the Lord all the time. More believer need to speak and live the truth and be light in a world drowning in darkness
Wow I can’t explain how much I needed this. I have been having such a hard time understanding Gods point of view and feeling sorry for myself and others for experiencing his wrath. But you are completely right. Thank you, may God bless you. ❤️
Heartbroken 💔 for the Lord’s heart. Oh how great are you mercies, what is men for you to have mercy over them? - Psalms 8:4…. Job 38:4-7 4“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. 5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it? 6 On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone- 7 while the morning stars sang together and all the angels[a] shouted for joy? I praise you Lord and I thank you for all you are. Thank you for giving your ONLY son to die for us. You are perfect, loving and just. Jesus you withstood it all for us. Thank you! Thank you for your PERFECT Love. Perfect Love that casts out all fear, that gives peace and fill all spaces. Te Amoooooo! Thank you for your mercies which are renewed everyday. I pray for those that seek you and are willing to run after you Lord. We praise you! Thank you Jesus! Amen 🙏
Their videos are disgusting. They know full well what they’re doing and doing it anyway having been in church and read the Bible. Now they’re leading even more astray oh man!
I could be wrong, but I believe the reason why the punishment for a rebellious and stubborn son was death, was because the parents had no way of surviving by themselves in their old age. If the son wasn't upholding his responsibility of caring for his parents, he was essentially condemning them to a long and painful death. I believe this is why we also see so many examples in the Bible of mothers wanting sons; sons were basically that day's form of social security. If you didn't have a son, you could die because you would be too old to provide for yourself. God is a god of justices, and he judges fairly. He matches the crime with an appropriate punishment. Nothing more, nothing less. "Your eye shall not pity. It shall be life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot." ~ Deuteronomy 19:21 Again, I could be wrong and I might be taking things out of context. I just ask for your forgiveness if I am.
Yeah, sure. And while you're at it justify stoning of defiled women. You know, the givers of life. Then you can justify the cruel drowning of the entirety of creation including all the unborn sons and other unborn babies. Then you can justify your dreadful religion for its immoral punishment of living death for those who commit the 'crime' of dissent. Any filthy religion that insists on the worship of a peevish and brutal sky tyrant cannot be trusted.
Wow. What you actually said makes alot of sense especially if you consider how much emphasis God puts on children honouring parents 👌 Another thing to consider is that God also greatly despises disobedience which would be the major sin of a rebellious son. It's kind of like a type of how the world is with God, we prefer to do what we want against what he says, to our own peril. Just like that, that son would rebel against and disobey his father whom he is to honour, and God likened such a person to one practicing witchcraft. All the people knew and were taught this. Our generation has become more liberal and we rebel against God more without fear of who he is and what he can do
I just found this guy and the first couple minutes in I knew i needed to sub. He calmly and completely destroyed theses workers of satan!!! God pour out a blessing to this man!!😁✝
I love what you're doing. Many of us are afraid of these criticisms because we aren't familiar enough with the old testament in order to react the way you did. This Bible study discord I'm on, we just started a weekly study looking at Jeremiah and Ezekiel but through the lens of Deuteronomy 32, looking for connections and parallels that can teach us eternal truths, spiritual principles, and more clearly reveal to us the face of God. Just like you did with the sacrifices and laws, it's the lesson and the obedience that are useful to us as Christians. When we can see the whole story a little bit, the end from the beginning so to speak, as God sees, we can learn why God was saying and doing what He did. He was speaking to Israel, but He knew all of us and the whole world were listening.
Such people are „created“ by modern worship culture. Always repeating beautiful verses in their songs to feel good and not learning about the true God-image by only studying the unproblematic verses will lead to disappointment, anger and frustration when faced with the full truth about God.
Makes you wonder what happened to these people that made them become so rebellious towards God. Every time I see people leaving the church and becoming rebellious towards God, it is because of one of two reasons: 1. They did something wrong and were reprimanded by church authorities and thus shifted the blame to God when, in reality, it is their own fault. 2. Someone in the church hurt them, and there was no justice done from the church's part, and thus, they took it out on God. Whatever the reason, I hope these people can find forgiveness and redemption in God.
I would say God isn't just punishing, but as you touched on, He lets you go to the full extent of your depravity if you continue to rebel and go against Him. Do they think there is no wickedness in man? People do wicked and crazy things without God, including burning babies on altars and cutting pulsating hearts out of living people. Maybe God wasn't saying, "I'm gonna make you eat your children," but rather warning us that we would decend into such darkness if don't follow after His ways.
@Sydney Bell my point was that humans are not as great as we like to think ourselves to be. As long as we hold onto a false idea that we are "good people," we can never receive the truth of the Gospel and its redemptive power. I could go tit for tat about Bible verses and what things mean in context, etc. But ultimately, logic doesn't convince anyone. People are converted in their hearts. I was an unbeliever as well and similarly judged God's actions based on my understanding of the Bible, with my own sense of self-righteousness. But when I was forced to face how down right ugly I was on the inside and all these "good people" abandoned me, rejected me, and condemned me, God showed me that eventhough I was His enemy, He came down in the form of Jesus Christ to live the perfect life and die for my pitiful mess. You will not be able to convince me that this God is evil or cruel. Humans are evil and cruel, and we need Him more than we realize.
If you notice on the last video, the lady singing, looks like she’s being convicted but is forcing herself to do whatever with him because HE is lost and dead in spirit, I pray she gets right with God before it’s too late ✨❤️ she can be free in Jesus Name ✨❤️💯I also pray for the guy as well because he’s only doing what he’s doing for views so I pray the the views parish from his eyes and that he sees the Lord Jesus views on sin in this world and in this life❤️💯✨
A worship "pastor" as you say is suppose to make sure the songs we sing on a given Sunday are theologically correct. Now a days, most worship "pastors" or worship leaders look for the newest song with a great hook or guitar line. And have forgotten that most everyone remembers just the songs they sing, not usually the sermons on Sundays. Therefore, they negate their responsibility. This coming from a former worship leader now bible college student.
Just cuz you know the book, doesn't mean you know the author. Blessings to everyone reading this. This isn't the end, your life can change the moment you decide to live. Know that you are loved and have purpose.
I think a very important distinction is that in many of these verses God is describing to them what will happen, not neccesarily condoning the actions or methods. Its like: "You wanna dwell in evil? Then you will die by evil and I won't bother you" War is grusome, especially when we tell God to go away and he leaves us to our own devices.
It's more sad than cute really. This world is wallowing in darkness and they're getting more and more sucked in. We have to both pray and live the truth and righteousness because people are looking out for deliverance from darkness. Who better to do it than the body of Christ who are the light?
It is easy to scrutinize those you don't fully understand... (1.) Hell was a choice BEFORE it became a place... You want nothing to do with your maker, there is a place for just that. (2.) He is NOT a being at all. He is a spirit - and one "from whom everything that was, and is, and shall be" and what's holding you together. (3.) And if you think this life with "free will " is tough, imagine not having ANY hope or ANY relief - by rejecting the one who always gave it. (4.) And if He can tell "Death" itself to take a seat while He gets His point across, (Rev. 9:6) - maybe we should give some heed to the warnings... God runs the show - because He IS THE SHOW and we're blessed to even exist in it!
What frustrates me so much about this is that these aren't particularly difficult questions to answer, so if they were honest and open in asking them, they would find the answers. The sad fact is they're more interested in driving home half-baked points for clout than they are in actually doing the research. If you lose your faith without even doing the work to find your answers, you had no faith to begin with. Faith without works is dead.
In the Orthodox Church, we have lots of liturgical worship songs of judgement like this that we sing every year. Haha. There is nothing wrong with singing the words of God when properly understood. It does sound silly when put to a contemporary Christian worship style.
I thought of this too. The word and judgements of God are righteous all the time regardless. It's just that their pop style worship made it all so funny 😭😂😂😂
@Sydney Bell it’s not barbarity. It is your choice to leave God he doesn’t force anyone to follow him but hey if you fail to see how good he is then i feel very saddened for you. Evil men don’t understand justice like he said in the video and as it says in the Bible. Even what seems like a super insignificant sin for us is infinitely damaging to a perfect and holy God. him being just to us, is not barbaric. If anything, we deserve even more punishment, because if we understand who God is, we understand that Sin against him is as bad as God is mighty, because it is the opposite of him. Those who have ears let them hear.
I’m sure this has been said, but this is such a good response video. I love how you show how kindness and humility towards the musicians, even appreciating their musical talent and humour, rather than responding out of offence. Also acknowledging that it’s not our place to judge God. I really struggled to listen to the music clips but your response was so edifying and models how humble and kind truth really is.
they did. they really did. If folks in this comment section knew their story, I think it would really change the "tone" I'm finding here I the comments. Sure, they're taking the Bible out of context... and they know they're doing this. They're not dumb. If anything, I'm really glad they made these videos so that it may cause people to open their bible and be like, "Okay, what the heck is this all about?" And then this youtube had the chance to add the biblical context. And, I appreciate the approach this youtube channel took with their videos. He wasnt' mean or belittling. He made a genuine effort to help add much needed context to these verses. Some of the verses are still disturbing and hard to "explain" ... even WITH the context. That said, I appreciate how @DailyDisciple approached this. I can't say I agree with him 100%, but at least he didn't add toxicity to his channel in this video.
@@esq8 Hi! Thanks for wanting to know. Sadly, I can't say that it would be appropriate to share about it here. You should (kindly) DM him on his TikTok and see if he'd be willing to share with you. Please assume he's a thoughtful and intelligent person... because he is. Please do your best to not pre-judge him. I'm not saying that what he went through is some kind of justification or appropriate reason for his change of heart... but please don't discount it. Assume the best. Try to be more curious than critical. Thanks!
People are too confident in mocking God and his word. It won't be funny once they stand in front of God. Also what I'm getting at is that God is just and he wants us to obey him and yet these anti worship people are just mad because they don't want to worship God. They hate that God is the judge and what he does it righteous. Some of the things sound a bit harsh, but it makes complete sense. All I'm hearing from the singers is whining and complaining about God righteous judgement.
It’s a little surprising to me that this man is an ex-worship pastor because the verses he’s using to mock God are explained in the chapters he’s pulled them from. Context is so important. It seems like he was reading Scripture without an understanding of who God is. Bless them, we need to pray for their understanding and conviction to come to Christ and truly know Him
In Philippians 2:12-13, Paul writes, “Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed - not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence - continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his purpose.”
So they had a soft, cuddly, sissified version of God and actually read the Bible for themselves, and they can't stand to think that God would actually judge people for their sins. Now they mock Him and try to convince others (and themselves) that it's all ridiculous and made up.. lol. Got it. Good luck with that. Hopefully he repents and turns to the real Christ.
Where's in the Bible does it say to stone children for being disobedient? And what I'm saying is, regardless of whether it's wrong or not, where are you getting this morality of yours at? And don't dodge the question this time because I guarantee that a lot more evil has been perpetuated by people who believe like you. Making up your own morality gets you the holocaust, Mao, Stalin, Jonestown, socialism... Basically, every great evil of recent history.
@Sydney Bell you should do some research before spouting lies as facts. First of all, your verse trying to make the Bible sound like it supports socialism, that was the beginning of the church and no one that lived there was forced to give. They all gave because they wanted to. Socialism forced people against their will. Jim Jones was not a Christian 😂😂 he said god was socialism. He constantly talked about how there is no sky god, and how there is no heaven up there so we have to make it down here. He went as far as saying he deficated on the Bible and that no one should read it. This is all on recordings you can listen to online. Then you have Hitler - an atheist and evolutionist who created his own version of the "bible" to try and convince Christians that what he was doing wasn't wrong. I must say, though, you're really trying hard to avoid answering where your morality comes from because it seems that your beliefs are more in line with Jim Jones.
@Sydney Bell I never denied it. I just wanted to know the verse so I could see the context. Right off the bat, it says a son who's a drunkard and glutton. Is that talking about a child? Maybe you don't like it, and it's not what society today would do, but in that time in history, that's what they did with evil people. I will gladly look to the Bible for morality, just as the founders of this nation did. If your way of thinking worked, we would see those societies thriving today. Unfortunately, your way of thinking is what's causing our country to tumble uncontrollably downhill today. Life isn't always nice, and evil should be dealt with harshly. I know that doesn't make you feel all happy inside, but it's reality. Good luck with whatever standard you use to judge your morality by today.
@Sydney Bell @Sydney Bell I doubt you'll take the time to watch this, but here's proof Jim Jones was not a Christian ua-cam.com/video/QSmhQdn2fYY/v-deo.html And here is a video showing writings from Hitler's own journal ua-cam.com/video/U0HS9dvpr84/v-deo.html It hurts to admit it when you're wrong, but you really should do research before spouting lies as fact.
This is extremely sad. What do you get when you turn away from GOD? Sadness, pain, darkness and emptiness. All there is is the world to catch you, arbitrary morals, and no purpose except the one you make up. No God, just the world to inspire you. Or, science. Or, new age spiritualism. Or, whatever else you come across. And let me tell you, people will not be there for you. Everything in this world will fail you at some point or another. Friends, work, your spouse, money, anything you lean on to get by will fail you. The world will never pick you up when you fall, only keep you down. Then from there, it'll ensure you're addicted to everything of the world, and fully dependant. You're stuck. Before you try turning away from GOD, study the bible, understand it, and ask questions. There's always answers. And yes, GOD is always there for you. Even if you don't feel it.
I’m reading through deutoronmy because I feel like i have only been focusing on the New Testament a lot. I just read deut 21 and I was like oh dang…..it was kinda confusing with my gen z brain lol but thank you!! And I ask the Lord,”Hm you’re God but….I don’t understand help me understand!” Thank you!!!!!
Hey. Do you need help with the old testament especially with the books of the law like Deuteronomy? I know they can be tricky to get a handle on but God has helped me with them in recent times and I would be privileged to help you as well. Can we talk more? Twitter? WhatsApp?
The 1Timothy 2:9 song is actually a banger, its funny they probably thought that what Paul was saying there was demeaning to women, while on the contrary it's a beautiful message to women.
“why does God allow evil”
same people:
“oh no look at how horrible God is for punishing evil”
@@sydneybell9423 TRUE justice is when you get what you gave. Live by the sword, die by the sword. That is how those people lived and treated others, now they are drinking their own cup. BUT Jesus in the NEW Testament takes our cup and drinks it, so we have the option, choice, to turn away from our own evil and its consequences....
GOD is not evil... we are evil and need saving. Truth.
@Sydney Bell 1. That was a punishment for the ones in authority of those children, children don't lose anything from dying, the only ones who will be at loss and in grief are their authority(s); who want to grow them up evil like themselves.
2. God give life, and He takes life,
God give punishments, and He gives rewards
3. God was there before the beginning of time, and He knows the future, so we will not always understand why He does the things that He do, He knows what He is doing and what should be done, He has reasons & a purpose, He has a plan, His end goal for the children of Earth is that they may be saved through Jesus Christ, accept Him as Savior, and follow Him(To love and share Him to others) so that we all may be in unity with God again.
@@sydneybell9423 why are you reading 3500 year old religious & cultural literature as if it applies in 2023? No, true Christians are doing the thing that is upsetting you.
Back then an eye for an eye was true justice.
It made everyone more equal so the rich & powerful received justice.
Some people still think it applies today, BUT...
Jesus said that it was the old way and will not apply to true believers. Jesus changed the culture and broke the endless cycle of 'you kill my child so I can kill yours.'
He brought real change when He said "turn the other cheek".
But I promise you... In big and small ways, you & I still struggle with that.
So don't judge ancient things with modern understanding, while we still struggle as humans to let go of our ancient evil. Truth.
(you are right in your feelings about that scripture AND wrong in your approach)
@Sydney Bell the earth and humans aren’t that great…so I believe God spares peoples children from corruption when they die young
@Sydney Bell If you are referring to psalms. That is a song of lament.. also you should read the verses previously.
Ecclesiastes 7:5 it is better for a man to hear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
Perfect 🤣
Wise words from the wisdom of the Preacher, son of David
Just words on paper.
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Unthinking Christianity often dissolves to unthinking Atheism
Great quote. Gonna use this
My youth paster really tries to drive home the point that CONTEXT is vital. You can't just grab a random verse and use it according to your own standards.
This. It is like having a historical record of your childhood and your parents saying enjoy being crippled without the context of them saying NOT to jump off the roof and do a double flip into the lawn but if you do it... Enjoy it and the consequences of it.
Everybody talks about context but rarely do they consider it.
@@JonathanGrandt Unfortunately, this can be very true.
Thank you! This is what I always have to remind friends- even my fellow believers.
That’s what a lot of men do to justify their cheating (hurting God’s creation that is women)
I can literally feel the sadness and darkness coming from these two people. "If they went out from us, there were never really of us" -1 John 2:19.
I feel really sad, and angry for them. I used to be a hardcore atheist not too long ago. The pain, darkness and intense anger I felt at all times was Soo miserable.
When you get rid of God, you're left to carry every single thing onto yourself. You come to the conclusion that life has no meaning except the one that you give it, and you were just randomly formed.
I can't imagine these two being happy.
When you get rid of God, all there is is sadness, pain, anger, and the desire to never wake up again. You only wake up because you're too scared to ensure your own end.
But your waking life is just pain, misery, addiction and pointless without GOD.
Pray for them and others that turn away. They're hurting. Whether they were really one of us or not, I don't see the harm in praying for them.
You can't take that scripture out of context. That's not talking about everyone and anyone. That's talking about something specific, read the whole chapter. That verse isn't backing up something like eternal security
That verse doesn't say every single person who has apostased was never really a christian.
In fact scripture speaks about people who will "depart from the faith" (Tim 4:1). You cannot depart from something if you were never really part of it.
Exactly what I thought
Wow… they were totally arrogant.. yuck. Quite laughable..
POV : When you join the worship team but the Pastor doesn't bother trying to know if you even have a clue of the Gospel
For reallllllllll!
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It’s feels like when churches do that its like saying “wed rather have good music than good people”
They just hire gig workers and don't seem to care do they? Worship leaders are kinda cringe anyway. 😬 ♡
You better know it. That is right-on.
At this point it’s becoming too common. Picking what Bible verses represent how you feel and taking sand verse out of context.
Right, thats clearly all this is
@@vondolo8192 bad church experience is one thing, but they are picking verses that only shows how evil God is. It’s the same as using the Bible to justify abortion or slavery.
“Context” is just a dodge. There is no context in which bludgeoning a rebellious son is good.
I like how you’re not bashing the guy and saying how wrong his actions are or anything, but you are addressing what’s being said and responding with respect and honesty. It’s nice to see some respect even to those who oppose you and your beliefs
Thats a real Christian unconditional love for everyone
John 15:15 “I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.” God is so good ❤
God really did lay it all out more than ever in the NT. Thousands and thousands of years of plans all laid out for all to know. Before then it was very much "God has mysterious ways" now its "God is having His way as He said"
Yeah these ex-pastors don’t incorporate the full picture of the Bible, especially the New Testament. They also don’t incorporate historical context
this breaks my heart. they’re so talented too. i just could imagine how beautiful their worship would be if they weren’t deceived like this.
I would say they were average at best… their arrogance overtakes their ability and diminishes their performance.. it’s why it is cringey
Knowing a few chords doesn't make you talented.
@WatchMyVideoCovidTruthNoBiolab yeah, deceit only occurs to those who don't know any better. They know.
@Don’t come for me unless I send for you 🤷 Bold of you to make such a an assumption about their past relationship with God. Are you truly saying that someone who accepts Jesus into their heart can never go back? And if they do then they were never an actual "Real Christian?"
@@josiahgurney9468 it depends, but those that openly mocks God this way didnt really knew God
These people who mock the Holy Spirit think it’s funny till He deals with them
IF he deals with us. And yeah I'm gonna scrutinize a being that created hell
Let God be true and every man a liar.
@@Topazdemonia he gives us all a choice to decide to do right or wrong. And we ALL fail
@@Palendrome does he give a choice? Doesn't he know everything, and also set the parameters for reality. He knew that we would all sin and yet still created a world in which we would all sin. Why would anyone with even a fiber of morals do such a thing?
@@Topazdemonia If I may interject, as a believer.....
The Lamb slain before/since the foundation of the world. Rev 13:8
The Cross was always plan A. God doesn't need a plan B, nor being God/Creator, is he afforded such a privilege.
love what you said! "it's not our role to defend or justify God" our role is to believe and trust in Him, that everything that happens (even the things we don't understand) is for our own good, and to obey His commands. it's so sad to have this ex worship pastors mock the very person that gave them their amazing talent. i'll pray for them to repent and come back to our Lord's loving arms
That sounds like some cult leader stuff.
"We don't question the cult leader. We don't defend the dictator. We just blindly follow everything that he does. Even if it's something that we don't understand we never questioned it.we just trust him"
That is some cult leader stuff
@@ayybeealternative1999 i never said anything about not questioning or blindly following. Blindly following someone is a religion, and like you said, something akin to cults. But Jesus is not religion. Jesus invites us to read His word, to meditate on it, to make questions. Sadly, a lot of this cult mentality has infiltrated the Church, and if a pastor or leader gets angry if you start questioning, you should leave. But God is open for conversation, He WANTS us to speak to Him, to ask so that He can reveal His mysteries to us. But His word must be understood spiritually, not rationally. That's why to you it may seem "cult leader stuff" to trust in things we cannot understand (yet!), but to us it's the essence of God: believe in Him, and then you'll see.
@@rivkeg7599thank you for your message!
@@rivkeg7599 Good points! I like how you lovingly responded even though this "ab" guy was purposely twisting what you said! I would only add that I believe the Bible is absolutely able to be rationally understood! I believe God has given us all the evidence we need, and more, and that it's irrational to accept any worldview other than the Christian worldview. Just because I don't understand a single maths equation certainly doesn't mean I should throw out ALL the maths equations I DO know. Just because there is something we don't understand in the Christian worldview, doesn't mean we throw out the things we DO understand!
@@lizzard13666 I wasn't twisting anything
There was a time where I turned my back on God and I used to argue with my mom and use the very same tactics to argue against him but after I lived without him for a time and got Saved for real again I realized how great and loving and merciful he truly is.
I got a breakthrough/a revelation (whatever you want to call it) on the book of Leviticus.
Upon reading it (while I was trying to answer something to another "atheist taking Bible out of context" moment), I feel like God revealed to me that this book is here to show us how great and Holy He is. He is Holy Holy Holy. God is telling us, "you think I am Holy, that's how much more Holy I am". He is so Holy that we can't understand, we think His judgement is too harsh because we ourselves are not Holy. We see ourselves being condemned because we fall short in so many ways. YET!
God is soo good that He knows that we will never be able to reach this level of holiness with our sinful nature so He send to us Jesus. And now, even though we fail, by working out our salvation through obedience to Him, we can reach Him the LORD Most High! And walk in holiness and righteousness.
It is a long way home but we will get there!
So good! 🔥
i recommend doing research about how subective morality doesnt work. it proves there IS objective morality, which is from God, and anyone who doesnt believe in God who claims there is objective morality is borrowing from the Christian worldview to make that claim
God is dealing with a humanity that has stepped away from him. Adam and Eve rebelled.. anything from that point on is on them.
Wow thank you for sharing
This was so beautifully said!
Too bad, they really do have good singing voices, but its more than likely they believed in the transactional idea of God. "I do what I'm supposed to, go to church, say my prayers, and YOU are supposed to give me what I want. You must live up to my standard or I will drag your name through the mud and leave you." Ironically living out exactly what they thought God was doing wrong.
1) Love the hat and 2) our old worship pastor claims that our church was "unjust" but what I mean by that is using he was using worldly standards instead of biblical
The fit is clean 🤝🏽
Any examples to explain what he meant? Why was he so offended by your church?
@Akinolu Olusina so our church is not affirming, and well (idk the whole story) but one day he now becomes a she.
@@bibleboiben so the person was looking for inclusiveness for their sexuality in the church? Sad really 🥲. It's good that your church stood for righteousness. We can pray that God will convict that old worship leader again and make them see the error they commit
@Akinolu Olusina don't get me wrong. I hope they come back to who they were, but I don't think it's happening anytime soon because anytime they post, you can see them talking bad about our church. I remember before it was to much, he made a post about how the Y.P. is corrupting the Youth.
God is not cruel! He forgives me for my sins everyday. How bad they may be.
He is always here for me. How could i consider God cruel? He has shown me nothing but grace.
They say he's cruel because they don't like accepting responsibility for their actions. God has said what happens when you sin and don't ask for forgiveness. I don't feel bad that God wiped out nations. He's THE judge.
@@migzy4704 No. It's because we don't like god killing babies and condoning owning people as property ,and being able to beat them as long as the get up after a day or two
@@migzy4704 That and evolution/geological evidence disproved the garden of eden, thus the idea of original sin falls apart
@@travissimpson7829 What are you talking about bro?😂 God doesn't kill babies. If the whole feminist woman that tend to kill babies or evil men. And owning people as property? I don't remember God saying slavery is good. Humans do though. Some humans think slavery is good. You're literally blaming God for the evil of man. Also if God decides to take someone's life whether they be baby, man, woman. It's ok. He is the judge. He is the Lord. The king of the universe. You and make ain't nothing. We're nothing,but dust. From dust we emerge and to dust we will return. He made the rules and he was the authority and right to enact his will upon anyone. He is God. Man people have tried to go against him and they've all failed. You think it's unfair, but whole are you to say what is good or bad? You're just as flawed as me and every other person in this world. Difference is I acknowledge that and say God is perfect. He knows more than me. I submit to his will. Whatever he does I won't question because I have faith and trust in God.
@@travissimpson7829 That sounds interesting. You have a link or a book I could read that proves evolution and disproves the garden of Eden?
"Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come. It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble." Luke 17:1-2
May the truth of their dishonesty catch up to them before the wrath of God does.
Amen
@@sydneybell9423 Okay so he wasnt validating anything.
The context of that verse is simply just saying the consequences of causing a child/ new believer to fall into sin (doing bad) will be severe. That it indeed it would be better for such things to happen to them than the punishment they would receive. Let me put this way. If in this world (specifically let's say your government), a person who caused another person, especially a child, to do harm is to be punished and it would be considered just, then what's the difference here that makes it "barbaric"?
Also if you don't mind, I'd just like to know if there's any reason why this seems to tug at you so harshly? If you have ill feelings towards the belief then I'm sorry for whatever may have caused that, but idk if this is the right way to go about handling it
@Sydney Bell No. I can see why you see this passage as being barbaric and my comment being a validation of their point. Having someone be drowned in the sea with a millstone around their neck seems rather extreme, but to understand this passage, you first have to under stand the severity of sin and God's response to it.
Romans 5:12 states the fallowing, "Therefore just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned." Sin carries with it the curse of death. If we weren't sinful, we quite literally wouldn't die. God knew that if Adam and Eve ate of the tree that they would bring upon themselves and their offspring the curse of death. God told them not to do this and even warned them of what would happen if they did, but they still ate of its fruit anyways. Since God is a just god, he has to punish sin, and since the act of sin brings about death, he has to punish sin with death. This is why Jesus said it would be better to be drowned than to cause anther to sin. If the punishment for sin is already death, how much greater will the punishment be for the one who causes someone to sin?
When I said Amen, I was mostly responding to IvnMrtinz last statement. My hope is that the ex-pastor and his wife come to realize the severity of their sin and repent so that they won't meet the punishment of God.
(Post Commenting) So I did some research into the nature of sin and came to the realization that I was wrong about why God punishes sin with death. The curse of death is actually something God made. We know that God is the creator of all things, both the laws of physics and nature included. We also know that the curse of death effects us in a very physical way. Therefore, we have to conclude that the curse of death is of God's creation and apart of his judgment upon us for our sin. Physical death for our physical being and spiritual death in hell for our spiritual being. But if he's not punishing sin with death because of the curse of death, then why does he choose to punish sin with death?
When I asked my pastor about this, he said something to this degree. Our purpose is to love God and enjoy him; we are to bring him glory. This is life and it is both a responsibility and a gift from our heavenly father. So when we sin, we abuse this privilege. Therefore, the appropriate punishment for sin is to have this privilege taken away. That is why God punishes sin with death.
Now I could be wrong again even with this conclusion and if I am, I ask for everyone's forgiveness. It's not my intention to lead anyone astray with my flawed understanding. I just want to help everyone better understand our King so that we can better appreciate his love for us.
*Jesus said to his disciples…*
Those five words right there are wrong. Jesus didn’t say that, the ANONYMOUS AUTHOR of the Gospel said that.
@@mcben6611 an interesting view. Mine personally is this.
God can't bare sin, and forever we would be separated from Him due to our sin. Immediately after Adam and Eve sinned God killed an animal and clothed them. Both to hide their nakedness, and to sacrifice an animal in their stead. The punishment for sin is death (I would say because of a curse, but because it is just). Death serves as the punishment of sin (and were it not for God's mercy and for Jesus we would all be dead). (This is my personal view that) Death also serves as a form of mercy so we aren't stuck in a sinful broken world for eternity, and be freed from their broken world to be with him freed of our sin and fallen State.
But back to the first point. God Just, and every sin must be punished, and the punishment of sin is death. Thus animals were sacrificed until the ultimate sacrifice was provided in Jesus Christ, our lord, that he may pay for all our sins, and conquer death so that death need no longer be the end.
Crazy how ex Christians devote themselves to God even more than they did following Christ.
Ha! So true!
I couldn't smile or laugh about any of the songs..honestly made me burn inside with righteous anger listening to them. The Holy Spirit is grieved listening to this mockery.. May God have mercy on them and bring them back to true repentance and relationship with Christ.
Wow that's a lot of hate in your heart. Pray about that. Amen.
@Smoky Quartz lol what did I say that was hateful? Please quote it for me
@@smokyquartz5817 With a name like smoky quartz..you probably are New Age Wicca..so you are not qualified to judge..
@@smokyquartz5817 Hoping someone repairs their relationship with God isn’t hatred. You’re reaching.
Amen
Asking "who gets to define what is good" is key.
I do, now piss off.
Tag on “if the universe is inherently amoral.” They technically shouldn’t be able to say life is inherently good if there is no real morality. They always base morality on whether it hurts someone or lowers quality of life but they’re already assuming life is a standard of goodness…with nothing to back it up because they also say the universe is has no real morality.
Now THIS is how you do a loving correction and a kind rebuke. Just switched my notis for this channel to always on!
Amen 🙏🏾 very inspiring
Thanks for sharing, I went through their TikTok… they know it’s out of context, they don’t care, and don’t care how it influences those that don’t get it.
That’s the main problem. Apathy. They don’t care what’s true. It’s hard disagreeing with someone but it’s even harder if their response is “I don’t care” because it shuts down any meaningful discussion.
They are making a point. Pastors and worship leaders do this all the time. Yes, it’s much less obvious sometimes but this is literally what they’re pointing out with humor.
This video was clearly sent to me by God! I know someone who has been attacking Christianity for weeks now and has really hurt some of my Christian friends online. I’m gonna send this to them so that they may also feel encouraged. Thank you and God bless you! ❤
Whenever I see ex-Christians expressing their hatred towards their supposed former life, I look for one thing and find it almost every single time. Something that is rainbow colored. This fellow had a rainbow guitar strap. Its like the ex-Christian starter kit: rainbows, tattoos, out of context verses, and a humanist ideology that still oddly draws morality from the Christian world view.
Spot on! XD Somebody should do a comedy sketch about this.
😂 Love this! I’m gonna start looking out for that rainbow now. Really sucks how this world made the rainbow (Gods promise) into such a terrible icon for homosexuality.
That generally means perversion..I love rainbow things but not because the ne community stole them. For many who've left to hate God, they can pervert the truth. That is what I believe you are seeing. Nit just perversion sexually but perversion is not just sexual. It's perverting anything including the truth
Well said !
@@buddy_132 I honestly hate that it's been co-opted because I honestly enjoy some rainbow designs and would happily wear it, but I don't want to be giving off the wrong messages/image.
They are probably people that believed that as Christians they were protected from something in this world and then it happened. Like a loved one dying or something happening to a child. Or saw other Christians behaving like sinners and attributed it to the Almighty. With these tictoks now being their response, there is clearly hate or resentment in their eyes towards the Lord. And definitely a lack of reading or understanding of the word. Makes me wish we could hear that story, they probably just need someone to talk to.
I really like watching people react to Tiktok videos, but often they are handled in a judgmental or negative way. I love how graciously you explained these in a positive way! Thanks, Isaac!
You're doing the Lords Work. God bless you this day and forevermore.
That bit from Leviticus is foreshadowing for what happens during the siege of Jerusalem in Jeremiah and Lamentations.
I was thinking this too, that’s a prophecy that was fulfilled.
And 70ad
The eating of their own children did happen during seiges of Jerusalem, by Nebuchadnezzar, Antiochus IV, and by Titus (AD).
I so appreciate your heart to clarify the context of the scriptures. 🙏🏽Wow. This reminds me SO much of this passage and it clarifies so much how different people relate to God.
Psalm 18:25-26
With the merciful you show yourself merciful; with the blameless man you show yourself blameless;
with the purified you show yourself pure; and with the crooked you make yourself seem tortuous.
God bless you brother…
Love it when people look into the context of verses! So many people just pull verses out of nowhere and say it’s true when the context adds so much to it!
The answer is "context", we should make a song about that.
There needs to be a proper fear and reverence for the Lord. He either pours out His wrath on us, or on His Son, so in His justice, He was merciful to us.
Also the passage on braided hair and expensive clothes was actually on the fact that those were what prostitutes wore (Babylonian I believe). So more specifically, women weren't supposed to dress as the world did. They were called to be different.
I don't kbow if you have kids, but imagine your kid came home in a police car. You'd be pretty angry, and rightfully so. Depending on the crime, you might even be tempted to kick them out. But instead you take them back, try to reconcile the broken relationship. Some kids turn the right coner, others get a chip on their shoulder. This is what the gospel does. When we wrong our Lord and Father, we have to understand what we deserve, and be thankful for His mercy. As our fathers have disiplined us, God does the same. If God is the God of the universe, His creation needs to understand its proper place as created by Him. There's no authority beyond, beside, or even close to Him. No can give Him advice that He doesn't already know, or can change His mind.
@Sydney Bell So no one should be punished for hurting others and God shouldn’t enact any sort of justice and just let people keep doing evil with consequences. Got it.
in deuteronomy the cursing of parents isn't referring to simple cuss words it's actually trying to curse them. Also the kid likely isn't a little boy but moreso a man who hasn't taken the head of a household (See Michael Heiser 2 Kings 23-25 as he points out from another scholar that the term doesn't mean little boys)
@Sydney Bell Then you think very little of parents and don’t understand how evil it is to curse someone (again, not cuss words but actually desiring evil things to happen to them).
I found that I didn't really understand the OT ways when I didn't have a firm grasp of the gravity of sin everywhere... in me, and in everyone that Jesus saved. Thank God His mercies are new every morning, because I (and this country IMO) would have been toast a long time ago, and rightfully so. ♡
God's mercy truly is wonderful. We deserve judgement but because of his love we only get a seriously tempered version of it most times. Today the earth is reacting violently, wars, disasters, droughts and famine, fires and crisis everywhere. We offend the Lord all the time. More believer need to speak and live the truth and be light in a world drowning in darkness
On tonight's episode of "People taking the Bible horrendously out of context."
“Context” only matters to Christians when it’s self-serving.
@@DesGardius-me7gf Sure
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Wow I can’t explain how much I needed this. I have been having such a hard time understanding Gods point of view and feeling sorry for myself and others for experiencing his wrath. But you are completely right. Thank you, may God bless you. ❤️
Heartbroken 💔 for the Lord’s heart. Oh how great are you mercies, what is men for you to have mercy over them? - Psalms 8:4…. Job 38:4-7
4“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone-
7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels[a] shouted for joy?
I praise you Lord and I thank you for all you are. Thank you for giving your ONLY son to die for us. You are perfect, loving and just. Jesus you withstood it all for us. Thank you! Thank you for your PERFECT Love. Perfect Love that casts out all fear, that gives peace and fill all spaces. Te Amoooooo!
Thank you for your mercies which are renewed everyday. I pray for those that seek you and are willing to run after you Lord. We praise you! Thank you Jesus! Amen 🙏
These people have such good voices. It’s a shame that they’re using their voice to just be harmful.
As if they as unbelievers have a standard to accuse god by.
Their videos are disgusting. They know full well what they’re doing and doing it anyway having been in church and read the Bible. Now they’re leading even more astray oh man!
I could be wrong, but I believe the reason why the punishment for a rebellious and stubborn son was death, was because the parents had no way of surviving by themselves in their old age. If the son wasn't upholding his responsibility of caring for his parents, he was essentially condemning them to a long and painful death. I believe this is why we also see so many examples in the Bible of mothers wanting sons; sons were basically that day's form of social security. If you didn't have a son, you could die because you would be too old to provide for yourself. God is a god of justices, and he judges fairly. He matches the crime with an appropriate punishment. Nothing more, nothing less. "Your eye shall not pity. It shall be life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot." ~ Deuteronomy 19:21
Again, I could be wrong and I might be taking things out of context. I just ask for your forgiveness if I am.
Yeah, sure. And while you're at it justify stoning of defiled women. You know, the givers of life. Then you can justify the cruel drowning of the entirety of creation including all the unborn sons and other unborn babies. Then you can justify your dreadful religion for its immoral punishment of living death for those who commit the 'crime' of dissent.
Any filthy religion that insists on the worship of a peevish and brutal sky tyrant cannot be trusted.
Wow. What you actually said makes alot of sense especially if you consider how much emphasis God puts on children honouring parents 👌
Another thing to consider is that God also greatly despises disobedience which would be the major sin of a rebellious son. It's kind of like a type of how the world is with God, we prefer to do what we want against what he says, to our own peril. Just like that, that son would rebel against and disobey his father whom he is to honour, and God likened such a person to one practicing witchcraft. All the people knew and were taught this. Our generation has become more liberal and we rebel against God more without fear of who he is and what he can do
I just found this guy and the first couple minutes in I knew i needed to sub. He calmly and completely destroyed theses workers of satan!!! God pour out a blessing to this man!!😁✝
I love what you're doing. Many of us are afraid of these criticisms because we aren't familiar enough with the old testament in order to react the way you did. This Bible study discord I'm on, we just started a weekly study looking at Jeremiah and Ezekiel but through the lens of Deuteronomy 32, looking for connections and parallels that can teach us eternal truths, spiritual principles, and more clearly reveal to us the face of God. Just like you did with the sacrifices and laws, it's the lesson and the obedience that are useful to us as Christians. When we can see the whole story a little bit, the end from the beginning so to speak, as God sees, we can learn why God was saying and doing what He did. He was speaking to Israel, but He knew all of us and the whole world were listening.
Such people are „created“ by modern worship culture. Always repeating beautiful verses in their songs to feel good and not learning about the true God-image by only studying the unproblematic verses will lead to disappointment, anger and frustration when faced with the full truth about God.
I don't know that these two were truly Christians in the first place. It's sad to see people like this.
Welcome back, Isaac ❤ Awesome, truthful video!
Makes you wonder what happened to these people that made them become so rebellious towards God. Every time I see people leaving the church and becoming rebellious towards God, it is because of one of two reasons: 1. They did something wrong and were reprimanded by church authorities and thus shifted the blame to God when, in reality, it is their own fault.
2. Someone in the church hurt them, and there was no justice done from the church's part, and thus, they took it out on God. Whatever the reason, I hope these people can find forgiveness and redemption in God.
Psalm 119:164
Seven times a day I praise You,
Because of Your righteous judgments.
The people who accuse christians of "cherry picking" verses are ironically the ones who do it the most
@P¡nned By Daily Disciple• yeah how about you just hop off youtube man theres better things to do with your time.
I would say God isn't just punishing, but as you touched on, He lets you go to the full extent of your depravity if you continue to rebel and go against Him. Do they think there is no wickedness in man? People do wicked and crazy things without God, including burning babies on altars and cutting pulsating hearts out of living people. Maybe God wasn't saying, "I'm gonna make you eat your children," but rather warning us that we would decend into such darkness if don't follow after His ways.
@Sydney Bell my point was that humans are not as great as we like to think ourselves to be. As long as we hold onto a false idea that we are "good people," we can never receive the truth of the Gospel and its redemptive power. I could go tit for tat about Bible verses and what things mean in context, etc. But ultimately, logic doesn't convince anyone. People are converted in their hearts. I was an unbeliever as well and similarly judged God's actions based on my understanding of the Bible, with my own sense of self-righteousness. But when I was forced to face how down right ugly I was on the inside and all these "good people" abandoned me, rejected me, and condemned me, God showed me that eventhough I was His enemy, He came down in the form of Jesus Christ to live the perfect life and die for my pitiful mess. You will not be able to convince me that this God is evil or cruel. Humans are evil and cruel, and we need Him more than we realize.
If you notice on the last video, the lady singing, looks like she’s being convicted but is forcing herself to do whatever with him because HE is lost and dead in spirit, I pray she gets right with God before it’s too late ✨❤️ she can be free in Jesus Name ✨❤️💯I also pray for the guy as well because he’s only doing what he’s doing for views so I pray the the views parish from his eyes and that he sees the Lord Jesus views on sin in this world and in this life❤️💯✨
Yeah, she looked super uncomfortable
She’s acting… it’s part of the joke😅
Why is worship “pastor” even a thing. You’re not shepherding songs. You’re a worship leader.
it's anti-worship, because it's spitting at God, not honouring Him. It's vile.
A worship "pastor" as you say is suppose to make sure the songs we sing on a given Sunday are theologically correct.
Now a days, most worship "pastors" or worship leaders look for the newest song with a great hook or guitar line. And have forgotten that most everyone remembers just the songs they sing, not usually the sermons on Sundays. Therefore, they negate their responsibility.
This coming from a former worship leader now bible college student.
It's sad to see a former believer mocking God... My heart breaks for them
This was amazing brother. We have to understand that we're evil and without any good thought apart from God. Thank you for making this content!
Thanks for going over the difficult stuff.
Yo where did you get that hat from?! I’m not a hat guy but that is great
Just cuz you know the book, doesn't mean you know the author.
Blessings to everyone reading this. This isn't the end, your life can change the moment you decide to live. Know that you are loved and have purpose.
I think a very important distinction is that in many of these verses God is describing to them what will happen, not neccesarily condoning the actions or methods. Its like: "You wanna dwell in evil? Then you will die by evil and I won't bother you"
War is grusome, especially when we tell God to go away and he leaves us to our own devices.
Love when people take verses out of context, it's cute watching them throwing their respect out of the window.
It's more sad than cute really. This world is wallowing in darkness and they're getting more and more sucked in. We have to both pray and live the truth and righteousness because people are looking out for deliverance from darkness. Who better to do it than the body of Christ who are the light?
God is indeed merciful. The fact that He still gives us breath after we blaspheme Him and call Him evil.
It is easy to scrutinize those you don't fully understand... (1.) Hell was a choice BEFORE it became a place... You want nothing to do with your maker, there is a place for just that. (2.) He is NOT a being at all. He is a spirit - and one "from whom everything that was, and is, and shall be" and what's holding you together. (3.) And if you think this life with "free will " is tough, imagine not having ANY hope or ANY relief - by rejecting the one who always gave it. (4.) And if He can tell "Death" itself to take a seat while He gets His point across, (Rev. 9:6) - maybe we should give some heed to the warnings... God runs the show - because He IS THE SHOW and we're blessed to even exist in it!
What is it with young Americans and their hatred for Christianity? Genuinely baffling for someone across the pond.
This is so good! Powerful words
What frustrates me so much about this is that these aren't particularly difficult questions to answer, so if they were honest and open in asking them, they would find the answers. The sad fact is they're more interested in driving home half-baked points for clout than they are in actually doing the research. If you lose your faith without even doing the work to find your answers, you had no faith to begin with. Faith without works is dead.
Well said and full of wisdom! Thank you for sharing!!
In the Orthodox Church, we have lots of liturgical worship songs of judgement like this that we sing every year. Haha. There is nothing wrong with singing the words of God when properly understood. It does sound silly when put to a contemporary Christian worship style.
I thought of this too. The word and judgements of God are righteous all the time regardless. It's just that their pop style worship made it all so funny 😭😂😂😂
@Isaac David Praise God, you articulated the doctrine of righteousness by faith accurately. And even some judgment clues onpoint. 👍🏼
Those people who mock of god and the holy spirit think is fun until they suffer paranormal activities
@Sydney Bell it’s not barbarity. It is your choice to leave God he doesn’t force anyone to follow him but hey if you fail to see how good he is then i feel very saddened for you. Evil men don’t understand justice like he said in the video and as it says in the Bible. Even what seems like a super insignificant sin for us is infinitely damaging to a perfect and holy God. him being just to us, is not barbaric. If anything, we deserve even more punishment, because if we understand who God is, we understand that Sin against him is as bad as God is mighty, because it is the opposite of him. Those who have ears let them hear.
I’m sure this has been said, but this is such a good response video. I love how you show how kindness and humility towards the musicians, even appreciating their musical talent and humour, rather than responding out of offence. Also acknowledging that it’s not our place to judge God. I really struggled to listen to the music clips but your response was so edifying and models how humble and kind truth really is.
Watching these two, you can just see it's all for shock culture and nothing else.
"They traded the Lord for their 30 pieces of silver I guess." 🎵
Great message brother Issac❤ HalleluYah! God is perfect.
Glory to God
One of the best videos you have done so far Isaac!
Pray for their salvation and healing. They must’ve experienced something painful to be this bitter.
they did. they really did. If folks in this comment section knew their story, I think it would really change the "tone" I'm finding here I the comments. Sure, they're taking the Bible out of context... and they know they're doing this. They're not dumb. If anything, I'm really glad they made these videos so that it may cause people to open their bible and be like, "Okay, what the heck is this all about?" And then this youtube had the chance to add the biblical context. And, I appreciate the approach this youtube channel took with their videos. He wasnt' mean or belittling. He made a genuine effort to help add much needed context to these verses. Some of the verses are still disturbing and hard to "explain" ... even WITH the context. That said, I appreciate how @DailyDisciple approached this. I can't say I agree with him 100%, but at least he didn't add toxicity to his channel in this video.
@@edburton6801 what's their story? Do you know them personally?
@@akinoluolusina I do … I worked with him for about 4 years at the church where he led worship. He’s a close friend. I’ll be seeing him next month 😊
@@edburton6801So what is the dreadful story that hurt them so badly? It would be good for us to have some context.
@@esq8 Hi! Thanks for wanting to know. Sadly, I can't say that it would be appropriate to share about it here. You should (kindly) DM him on his TikTok and see if he'd be willing to share with you. Please assume he's a thoughtful and intelligent person... because he is. Please do your best to not pre-judge him. I'm not saying that what he went through is some kind of justification or appropriate reason for his change of heart... but please don't discount it. Assume the best. Try to be more curious than critical. Thanks!
People are too confident in mocking God and his word. It won't be funny once they stand in front of God.
Also what I'm getting at is that God is just and he wants us to obey him and yet these anti worship people are just mad because they don't want to worship God. They hate that God is the judge and what he does it righteous. Some of the things sound a bit harsh, but it makes complete sense. All I'm hearing from the singers is whining and complaining about God righteous judgement.
Great content
Thank you for making a video about this.
They are just mocking worship & it’s so gross.
That last one, kinda threw me off they chose to sing that, I think that's a great message! haha
Thank you for this!! We as Christians need to know! Thank you
It’s a little surprising to me that this man is an ex-worship pastor because the verses he’s using to mock God are explained in the chapters he’s pulled them from. Context is so important. It seems like he was reading Scripture without an understanding of who God is. Bless them, we need to pray for their understanding and conviction to come to Christ and truly know Him
In Philippians 2:12-13, Paul writes, “Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed - not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence - continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his purpose.”
Wow this is so sad 😢
I remember a line from an old Wayne Watson song: "(God) doesn't need me to defend Him/He just wants me to obey."
So they had a soft, cuddly, sissified version of God and actually read the Bible for themselves, and they can't stand to think that God would actually judge people for their sins. Now they mock Him and try to convince others (and themselves) that it's all ridiculous and made up.. lol. Got it. Good luck with that. Hopefully he repents and turns to the real Christ.
@Sydney Bell And what standard are you using to make those judgements?
Where's in the Bible does it say to stone children for being disobedient? And what I'm saying is, regardless of whether it's wrong or not, where are you getting this morality of yours at? And don't dodge the question this time because I guarantee that a lot more evil has been perpetuated by people who believe like you. Making up your own morality gets you the holocaust, Mao, Stalin, Jonestown, socialism... Basically, every great evil of recent history.
@Sydney Bell you should do some research before spouting lies as facts. First of all, your verse trying to make the Bible sound like it supports socialism, that was the beginning of the church and no one that lived there was forced to give. They all gave because they wanted to. Socialism forced people against their will.
Jim Jones was not a Christian 😂😂 he said god was socialism. He constantly talked about how there is no sky god, and how there is no heaven up there so we have to make it down here. He went as far as saying he deficated on the Bible and that no one should read it. This is all on recordings you can listen to online.
Then you have Hitler - an atheist and evolutionist who created his own version of the "bible" to try and convince Christians that what he was doing wasn't wrong.
I must say, though, you're really trying hard to avoid answering where your morality comes from because it seems that your beliefs are more in line with Jim Jones.
@Sydney Bell I never denied it. I just wanted to know the verse so I could see the context. Right off the bat, it says a son who's a drunkard and glutton. Is that talking about a child? Maybe you don't like it, and it's not what society today would do, but in that time in history, that's what they did with evil people. I will gladly look to the Bible for morality, just as the founders of this nation did. If your way of thinking worked, we would see those societies thriving today. Unfortunately, your way of thinking is what's causing our country to tumble uncontrollably downhill today. Life isn't always nice, and evil should be dealt with harshly. I know that doesn't make you feel all happy inside, but it's reality. Good luck with whatever standard you use to judge your morality by today.
@Sydney Bell @Sydney Bell I doubt you'll take the time to watch this, but here's proof Jim Jones was not a Christian ua-cam.com/video/QSmhQdn2fYY/v-deo.html
And here is a video showing writings from Hitler's own journal ua-cam.com/video/U0HS9dvpr84/v-deo.html
It hurts to admit it when you're wrong, but you really should do research before spouting lies as fact.
1:34 been saying this since I was eight, glad to find someone who agrees.
This is extremely sad.
What do you get when you turn away from GOD?
Sadness, pain, darkness and emptiness. All there is is the world to catch you, arbitrary morals, and no purpose except the one you make up.
No God, just the world to inspire you. Or, science. Or, new age spiritualism. Or, whatever else you come across.
And let me tell you, people will not be there for you. Everything in this world will fail you at some point or another. Friends, work, your spouse, money, anything you lean on to get by will fail you. The world will never pick you up when you fall, only keep you down. Then from there, it'll ensure you're addicted to everything of the world, and fully dependant. You're stuck.
Before you try turning away from GOD, study the bible, understand it, and ask questions. There's always answers.
And yes, GOD is always there for you. Even if you don't feel it.
Their pride is clearly showing. God wll use it for his Glory.
I’m reading through deutoronmy because I feel like i have only been focusing on the New Testament a lot. I just read deut 21 and I was like oh dang…..it was kinda confusing with my gen z brain lol but thank you!! And I ask the Lord,”Hm you’re God but….I don’t understand help me understand!” Thank you!!!!!
Hey. Do you need help with the old testament especially with the books of the law like Deuteronomy? I know they can be tricky to get a handle on but God has helped me with them in recent times and I would be privileged to help you as well. Can we talk more? Twitter? WhatsApp?
It’s sad to see how talented these two really are, and yet they use their talents to lead themselves and others astray. We must pray for them🙏🏻
I reported that tiktok account, and I will keep doing it every day.
@@sydneybell9423 because their intentions for the song is to make others stray away from God to make Christianity look bad, that's why.
@@owoisabelle4385 what about freedom of speech?
The 1Timothy 2:9 song is actually a banger, its funny they probably thought that what Paul was saying there was demeaning to women, while on the contrary it's a beautiful message to women.
Unfortunately the average worship pastor in America possesses the theological depth of a 7 year old. But hey, they can sing…
“Oh boy they’re taking ‘eat the flesh of your sons and daughters’ out of context!”
So what is the context?
“I can’t tell you”
Exactly my point. I'm a Christian but tbh, some people do bad apologetics.
W Hat 🎣 🧢 ❤
God is good because He is Just
That’s a circular argument.
The Modesty one is a banger. They should release it I’ll get it 😂
Christianity isn’t light or simple, I’m indifferent to whatever tiktoks about stuff like this even if it’s done out of spite.
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