Jordan Peterson & Dennis Prager's Controversial Take on LUST & P*RN
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Pornography does not prevent adultery, it sets your mind up to be more prone to sexual sin of all sorts. Sin is never a solution to sin.
Yup
Not only does it not prevent, but it is people directly sinning for your entertainment.
2 wrongs don't make a right
Very well said: sin is never a solution to sin
@@trecian777 I talked a bisexual and he said pornography is an abomination but not his sexual desires
The irony is that if pornography can take the place of adultery as Prager suggests, it basically proves Jesus' point that lust and adultery are one and the same.
That whole " if you look at women with lust.." blah blah. Its misinterpreted. It's only" lust " when the other person married.
@@mr.g4272 no
@@stravinskyfan what are you gonna do walk around with a blind fold every time you see a girl? Lighten up.
You are deluding yourself. Lust does not pertain to only those married.
@@mr.g4272 believe it or not, it is possible to look at women and not allow lust to take root in your heart.
I was addicted to it for over 20 years. It negatively impacted all of my romantic relationships even as an unbeliever. I was delivered from it when I got saved and haven't looked back since. So no we don't need it. We NEED to be rid of it.
God bless you
How did you know it was "wrong"?
You can use anything irresponsibly.
Too much water isn't good for you.
Porn is a tool and can help people release in a responsible way. Sexual hormones are not concepts. We don't deny our humanity when we are thirsty. We don't deny our humanity when we are hungry. Sex is apart of our world. Every other animal does it. Porn can be a tool.
Legalize your humanity.
Sex hormones are not concepts.
The temptation to do the right thing at the wrong time/place is what I equate porn to.
Sexual intercourse and the accompanying thoughts, sights, sounds, and smells
is absolutely essential for ongoing generations of humans, THANK GOD!!!!😇😇😇
Porn lacks essentials, and is therefore a detriment to a man wanting to attain his full potential. At least for me.
It sure feels(looks) good/seems right while you're in it.....
ask me how I know.
Sin by def. is shortcoming, not completing/fulfilling.
Love God, love ypur brother!!
@@aaronmonroe7932 How can you possibly argue that an entire industry that predicates on objectifying women and men, as perfectly fine?
It's scary when our first response is to justify why we should sin rather than asking God to help us not sin.
Amen.
Exactly!!
If you think god is just waiting for you to ask him/her to "help" you not sin then I think you ought to review self and look in the mirror - who created lust? who created sexuality?
Exactly, thanks for your comment, OP. God bless
@@roblouw3038Him, not she. Jesus can help us and save us from any sin, get to know Him, Jesus whom is the one and only true God and Creator came to earth 2000+ years ago to go to the cross to pay our sin debt in full. His sacrifice was sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death and that true and only God is JESUS! And He did all that because He loves us and wants to save us and have a relationship with us. JESUS is the only way to Heaven, only He can save us from sin and from hell ( Luke 5:32, John 14, Romans 6:23). Jesus is waiting for you to come to Him, He won't cast you away from Himself if you come to Him. He calls us all to repentance, He loves us and wants to save us. believe and have faith in God then the Holy Spirit will come in and lead you to repent of your sins and God will forgive you of your sins and cleanse you by the blood of Jesus and you'll get born again by His Holy Spirit and have His salvation, you will become a new creation (John 3:3-19). God bless
Life without Porn is very possible. I was addicted. Took years and constant prayer and falls to finally be free. Pray for strength and removal of temptation. Plus start living your purpose.
100% possible, submit yourself fully to Christ and ask for Him to rid you of it.
I’m only a few weeks clean and I’m experiencing literal withdrawal symptoms. Headaches, roller coasters of emotions including severe depression, and physical exhaustion. But on the bright side I’m already enjoying interacting with women without objectifying them, which i didn’t realize how much i did until now.
I had been trying to quit watching for years (been addicted for 18 years) but i only recently came back to Christianity and got baptized which gave me the strength to try again.
@@Pikawarps same when i was stopping, i've relapsed a few times since but that initial stint of getting off of porn was really rough
Very possible ?? Life without porn is NORMAL but I get your point
Discipline is a long-forgotten virtue in our day.
Self-discipline especially.
So true no one wants to be self disciplined it’s hard and requires dying to ourselves.
True, this is a sign of our times....snowflakes
Weak and lacking moral character....unable to bear their cross.
People declare that they are not responsible for what they do and/or cannot help themselves.
There is a general attitude that it is unreasonable to expect people to live out ordinary biblical morality, to have to suffer or endure the cross.
Prager also acknowledges that without Christianity there would be no United States or Western Civilization as we know it. Having said that, it is because of the teaching of Jesus of "not looking with lust", among other teachings, that he can say that about the Western world or Christianity. Your lust is blinding you Dennis!
It's a long-forgotten virtue because unrestrained freedom has been emphasized as being the most important virtue in the West. It's no coincidence that the same view about God's law is held among the "Christian" religions in the West. We keep harping about freedom while forgetting the fact that our duty as human beings is supposed to come first.
Dennis is trying to minimize the sin by using words like "looking at a picture" instead of saying looking at pornography.
Good point. Also invalidating the person whose image is being violated/dishonoured. Also, did they mention "uncovering someone's nakedness" i.e
sexually sinning against someone is shameful
If Dennis do that it's very possible that he watch pornography
He's avoiding calling the spirit by it's name yes. Mitigating the gravity of sin is dangerous. It gives room for the devil to decieve
Dennis Prager's position about consuming pornography CLEARLY illustrates the main difference between the thinking of a "good" man vs a GODLY man. Period.
Hell is full of "moral" people. Heaven is full of "saved" people. The narrow road grows more narrow by the day.
@@coralkenagy8184 Are you implying that saved people are more moral than moral unsaved people? Don’t you know that heaven will be full of “saved” murderers and adulterers? Being "good" and being "saved" aren’t correlated, even Biblically speaking. Go down to your local prison and you’ll find plenty of saved criminals. Morality and salvation have no connection. For all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God.
I don't know how Dennis Prager can read the Old Testament and think that God is only concerned about outward behavior. Love your commitment to truth here.
Exactly, the whole reason Israel was constantly disciplined was because they would let their hearts go astray from God.
@@juice2307 I disagree. Even if your heart strays from faith, with discipline you recognize that faith undulates much like motivation. I use the gym for example, a person will not always be motivated to go to the gym but a disciplined person will go regardless.
A faltering heart is temporary and inconsequential provided proper discipline is instilled. When people falter in there discipline is when the impurities of the heart (which you can never truly escape) take shape and bring about the consequences of falling from God.
@@nj7969 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.” - one of many old testament passages.
@@katebee945 That to me sounds like where man tends to overlook the reasoning behind someone’s actions, God takes their reason into account. The heart will always try to tempt you, but a disciplined person can prevent temptation from becoming action through understanding Gods law and why Gods law is correct.
Prager is a behaviorist but he thinks that LOOKING involves no behavior of any kind? I smell a special pleading fallacy or hypocrisy!
Kinda like if a wife asked a counselor what she should do about her husband's verbal abuse, and the counselor responded saying, "Well, his verbal abuse may not be such a bad thing if he's doing that instead of hitting you."
It's just such a ridiculous mindset imo...
Love this example! ❤ Excellent
my husband has been a lifelong p0rnaddict, only now 7months clean, and we've been married 12yrs. i went to therapy for betrayal trauma over this, and the therapist said exactly what you said here to me!!!
@Lucy Pevensie It's a lot of worldy therapist who just don't get the big picture. Blessings on your husband being 7 months clean! 🙏🏾
PERFECT example!
@@lucypevensie6284 what finally got him to let the addiction go?
need any suggestions i can get for a loved one
As a young woman, consuming Pornography affected me Mentally and emotionally. Every day I’m praying and asking God to help me overcome 🙏🏾
Im a young man who broken those chains. You can do it!
I love that there are still men out there who think like this. Thank you so much for being you. Safe men that have self-control.
@Joe Joe praying for you brother. Our God is our rock and our salvation. God bless you as well
I had to be honest with myself. I fantasized about things I wanted. I never fantasized about being unsuccessful, eating gross food, missing a game winning shot. What I fantasized about I wished I could do, and likely would have if I thought I could get away with it. That's when what Christ said came into clarity.
I thought porn would be a part of my life forever, but life without it is far better. Victory is achievable. I was in the depths of it, but now I'm free!
Amen! Glory to God! 🙌🏼
@Static Warrior Poet 1 Peter 1:15-16
But now you must be holy in everything you do, just as God who chose you is holy. For the Scriptures say, “You must be holy because I am holy.”
What you said makes no sense and I think I’m dumber for reading it. You don’t fantasize about being poor? Color me surprised! Is there anyone on this planet that does? Then you compare this with fantasizing about lustful things and thus wanted them? You’re putting the cart before the horse. How do you plan to achieve something without first fantasizing about it? Or do you just have a dull hum in your head at all times? Bottom line is that what you said is known as a non-sequitur. One thing doesn’t follow the other. But I fully expect you or someone else to respond to me here explain in 2nd grade level language how two contradictory ideas actually are one in the same.
See this is the problem with this religious rhetoric. You think just shoving Jesus into what you’re saying suddenly makes the whole thing make sense.
@Static Warrior Poet Well, im a young girl, but I’ve had that addiction and I’d say to block out anything that has to do with sexual nuance. Music, magazines, books, movies etc. I didn’t stop until one morning I watched it again after promising God I wouldn’t, and I broke down and couldn’t take it anymore. But as for physical things, maybe try to fill the times you’d have to watch porn with other things. Undone work, hobbies etc. Like I said, I’m a young teen with very little experience but that’s what has been helping me so far. I pray you’d be set free and be able to live your life as the person God has made you to be
Walk in the holy spirit, be in God and God will abide in you amen
I can personally tell you porn ruins the beauty of sexuality, especially marriages. It's addicting. I speak from experience. I use to be addicted and found myself wanting to watch porn more than I wanted sex with my husband whom I felt distant from. I also experienced sexual assault as a teen and this allowed me to have to not trust anyone but myself with sexual satisfaction. But God is good and brought me out of porn and I haven't watched it in over 4 years. Male or female, DO NOT WATCH PORN! It's a pandora box, once opened, you need the help of the Holy Spirit to close it.
So true. I was also addicted. We don't often think of women being addicted to porn, so it is a hidden reality and often a hidden shame. God bless you.
Glory be to God!
As someone who has struggled with watching Pornography for most of my adult life. I urge everybody to stay away from it. It has warped my mind due to years of use. I am currently working on retraining and rewiring my brain not to objectify women. I urge ALL parents to keep their children away from it. It will mess them up in their heads. May God be with everybody who is struggling with porn and lust and help them to overcome the darkness.
May God Bless you and keep you, amen!
Praying for you
Prager also acknowledges that without Christianity there would be no United States or Western Civilization as we know it. Having said that, it is because of the teaching of Jesus of "not looking with lust", among other teachings, that he can say that about the Western world or Christianity. Your lust is blinding you Dennis!
Ready EasyPeasy my friend, it will work.
I’ve been struggling for close to 11 years, but lately I’ve been trying to break away from porn. Finding freedom so hard to do especially after I realized how addicted my brain was to it. Praying you find lasting freedom from bondage
I used to really look up to Dennis until I heard him talk about his "men want variety" stance. It really messed with me for a while until I caved and asked my husband about it. Thankfully my husband responded really well to the topic and completely disagreed with Dennis. I think this is a perfect example of how a spirit filled person is different than a non-spirit filled person. The "impossible" becomes possible and the Lord sanctifies us and our hearts.
I have not seen that talk so I will not comment on his views.
However, specifically on the sentence "men want variety". I believe this is both right and wrong because it's an oversimplification.
On the most primitive level it seems indeed that males are meant to seek as much reproduction as possible to ensure their genes go forward. There is no burden of child-bearing for them and it makes sense.
However, we are much more than our primitive parts and human culture has been ever evolving away from the most primitive. So, a fully mature and sophisticated man will be higher than the lowest level of his nature. But he will most likely always contain that "wild" part within that has to be tamed by a higher spirit.
@@nikolaisedov2295 every human has the ability to become sexually corrupt. Every human has the choice to look lustfully at another person. As Christians we fully recognize that this is something we choose to submit to. As Christians we believe that we should not only have eye for the opposite gender, but that we should only have eyes for our spouse. If those thoughts pop into our head then yes it up to us to intentionally shut that down. It becomes easier with more practice and wisdom from the Holy Spirit. The difference here is that when Dennis talks he is not talking from a Christian point of view. He talks as if this is a big struggle for every single man and no man has the ability to turn this off in his head. He does says that a man can resist ACTING on these interests out of his commitment/vow he made to his spouse but is pretty firm on his stance that men don't have the ability to stop the desires. This may be true for someone who isn't Spirit filled. The Holy Spirit was sent to us to be our helper and keeping us from our sinful desires. The impossible does become possible when we are willing to let the Holy Spirit to lead within us. I was struggling because I had the idea that my husband was walking around looking and desiring all these other woman he comes into contact with on a daily basis with no ability to turn it off. When I talked to my husband about what Dennis said, he immediately went on saying that this wasn't true. He talked as if this is something you can let overcome you, but was not something you have to be subjected to. Especially as a Christian.
When I watched that video I felt exactly the same. It made me very insecure . Like you my husband reassured me. Not every man is the same... thank God
That’s why Jesus’ point was twofold: sin is born in the heart not simply action (how many today have hearts to have joined the Nazis if they lived 80 years ago rather than live seemingly normal lives today?) but also that no one can ever justify themselves before God.
That’s why salvation and God’s grace is REQUIRED.
My sister in Christ, your husband is just sugarcoating you and that is not something you should be happy of.
Men are, biologically speaking, designed to have as many partners as they can. That's why men are so eager to one night stands and are also so susceptible of porn. The difference is that, a Godly man filled with the spirit, will have a will much stronger than those desires.
Yes, a tough pill to swallow as well. This doesn't mean all men go out seeking lots of women. We choose to follow the Godly way and don't act upon those desires, we value having families and loving one person for the rest of our lives much more than "variety", but denying it like your husband is doing is not the correct approach.
My jaw is on the floor with Dennis’ responses!!
You’ve done an excellent job explaining yourself. Amen and thank you!!
I was disgusted. It said a lot about Dennis' character. He sounds like an immature entitled misogynistic teenage boy.
I've always had a bad feeling about him
Mine too!! I was so shocked.
I was definitely always skeptical, but this confirmed to me that he isn’t a great role model
He rejects Christ. What he said doesn't surprise me.
Sex is giving, not taking. Sex is selfless, not selfish. Looking at porn is using, not loving. God help their souls who look at porn because it is a disease. For those commenting "sex is taking" I need to put myself into context if you watched the video, I'm talking about the motive of sex. Which should be to give love to our wife and be open to have children. Once we changed it to using our wife is what's messed up. It's all about the motive on our heart which leads to the act. Sex of itself is sacred and good in the right context of giving oneself!!
And they say you're rude or evil if you put this ideal forward.
Sex is taking tho?
Sex is only permitted between a married man and woman... anything else is just sinful.
Personally, I would say that sex is a give and take, but should only be used as intended, between a husband and wife. The last point is all the way true though regarding porn being compared to a disease of some sort. I unfortunately went through that for practically 2 decades........and I feel a mental scar somewhere in my mind. In due time it will heal with God's grace, but......I could've been completely different person had I not been exposed to it.
@Zyth in sex you say “this is my body, given up for you.” It is a complete gift of self, and even becomes sinful of done to fulfill your own desires rather than give yourself fully.
“aT lEaSt I’m NoT aS bAd As SoMeOnE cOmMiTtInG aDuLtErY” had me rolling bro 😂
Yes, this reminds me of *the parable of The Pharisee and the Tax Collector in Luke 18:9-14* .
"He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: ...
The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
... everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”
How hard was it to type that?
If someone’s got kids and they’re deep into pornography, that’s a MAJOR red flag for me. Unless it’s dealt with, it always gets passed down to the children, one way or another…
even if both don't partake, 99% of people have seen by the time they are 18 so...
@@LegoSwordViedos yeah, but it’s infinitely more damaging when it’s shown to you by a parent, and/or they make you participate.
@@LegoSwordViedos as a parent, it’s your job to protect your children from that. Bringing it into the home is the exact opposite.
"Men want variety" is such a lame excuse to justify watching porn. I'm a women and before I became Christian I also enjoyed "variety" so it is not a stricly male desire. And as a women I can also tell you that finding out your man has been watching porn is a HUGE turn off. I have a lot of respect for Dennis but he isn't perfect, obviously.
It really is a turn-off!!!
Thanks for clarifying that to these men Sunny 💪
@@danielsmithiv1279 These men don't care, since women display such atrocious behavior nowadays. That's why they turn to porn in the first place, it's less of a bullcrap than dealing with the emotional blackmail from women.
Women want men to change without changing themselves.
What about solitary
Gay men? Everyone needs a sex life.
exactly!! its disgusting and sinful that people watch p0rn while they are in a relationship and it shouldn’t be normalized.
@@leonharrison800 "everyone needs sex life" where did you get such a ridiculous idea?
Does he not even take into consideration the people on the other side of the video? This is so much more than just the person viewing! The people in these videos are some of the most broken people and some are even trafficked. These people they are watching are someone’s daughters and sons. This is so selfish. I’m stunned.
Yeah, he failed to mention that. I feel there is something else in his heart- only God will know.
Yeah sadly, and the obvious biblical answer to that man’s situation is to simply take another wife, who can be a full wife to him and help him in caring for his first one, but since modern Judaism and Christianity both forsake the truth and teach doctrines of men, they end up saying absurd things like it’s better that he look at porn.
Dennis Prager? No, he does not care, obviously
Yes porn is not a victimless industry everyone is degraded those making it and the one who watches it
@@mrmonay having more than one wife is not a better solution. Men and women are only to have one spouse.
Thanks to your content i have begun my faith journey. My wife and i both were baptized 2 years ago, i found myself still feeling guilt daily because the more i read or heard of the gospel the more i realized i was not living a godly life. This week i was ill and had fallen to my lust out of boredom. My wife who knows how long i have been struggling with this issue has been a patient blessing in my life. Because of her and the word i have made it my mission to finally overcome this terrible addiction. It all comes down to a split second choice. For me it is to be the man my children see and the man God wants me to be. Then i can finally be at peace with our loving God.
Through Christ you already are at peace with God.
But overcome sin because it is destructive. God bless
The gospel is for believers as well as unbelievers. Even a believer cannot keep the law by his own effort and will. Life in Christ changes you, but it’s a gradual process. Still, you’ll never be free of sin in this life. Let the law (guilt) turn you to Christ. We honor and praise him and need him because he has done what none of us can do. Let your joy come from Christ’s perfection. If you could live a sin-free life, you wouldn’t need him and his death and resurrection would be meaningless.
Thank you both, I appreciate your kind words. Praise be the Lord who's kingdom resides in each of us. May we all seek out the kingdom of God and come to kneel before Christ Jesus.
You have to recognize that Christ has removed the penalty of sin, and God is not making you Holy so that He can accept and love you, but instead making you Holy because He already accepts and loves you through Christ.
It completely changes the dynamic.
@zaksmith1035 thank you very much. I appreciate all the admonition I have received here, it makes it easier to remember how much strength we have thanks to Christ being in our corner
Dennis’ answer to Jordan on pornography is precisely why Jesus taught about the lust of the eyes.
Nobody needs porn , porn is garbage 🗑. Everyone need to come to Jesus
The religious response 🙄
@@jjj0026 maybe next time don’t deliberately watch a channel called “Daily Disciple” if you don’t want to see the religious response to things. Your feeling of annoyance is your fault
@qvindicator you tell him! Like did you expect everyone here to be FOR the rotting of your soul through these demonic habits 😂
Apparently disciple is derived from discipline. May Jesus discipline me through the cross.
@@jjj0026 no its the response of someone whos seen and knows the truth, tribulations is about to start, come to Jesus now. Any one uncovered sin will send someone to hell, Jesus loved us enough to paid for our sins, you best come to him now. Its not a threat, its a warning, tribulations is about to start and rapture will happen before, you have less than a month.
Just want to mention: judging from this clip alone Peterson did not say he agreed, he merely said that he understood the logic behind Dennis's reasoning by comparing it to psychological principles. Therefore, unless more definitive evidence or context is given, I do not think we can say for sure that Peterson does in fact share this perspective. Furthermore, Peterson has spoken out against porn many times in the past, which makes him agreeing with Dennis even less likely.
Dennis needs to check his church teachings.
👆👆
As someone with a couple of degrees in psychology I understand where Peterson is coming from. He is assessing whether a behavior is a "problem" for the person. Say gambling, for instance. If you have the money and gamble occasionally its not a problem. If you so it excessively or gamble away money you don't even have, then it's a problem.
Peterson once went on a rant about how horrible it was that Sports Illustrated put a chubby woman on its swimsuit edition cover. Because he had a problem with the swimsuit edition (which, at best, is a gateway to porn) in general? No. Because "they had a good thing going for them," but then went Woke with their model choices.
He may not be as brazen about it as Prager. He may even recognize the harm it can cause, to an extent. But he is far from some stalwart against porn.
In defense of Prager and you say he needs to check his church’s teachings, you do realize he’s not a Christian so Christ’s teaching in Matthew 5 : 27-28 are irrelevant to him . This is one thing I don’t agree with him on, but I’m not going to throw the baby out with the bath water, I just consider the fact that he and others like him don’t see the world through the eyes of Christ.
Amen about the self control! Almost 20 years ago, I dealt with this issue with my ex husband. Back then, I was definitely in the minority in saying that it was even a problem! I cannot tell you how awesome it is to see men standing up to this, and changing the narrative!
he has a sex drive 9 times stronger then you, so sure tell him what he can and can't do. I just laugh that it's like a horse telling a fish how to swim. it is not anywhere near a chalange for you to control yourself the same struggle as it would be for a man so you wouldn't even know. But assuming you starve them of intimacy and then gaslight them for graving it, just shows how great it would be to have a toxic relationship for you.
@@LegoSwordViedos actually, I was down for it much more than he. But, 18 hour stretches of pixels became more important. In the end, he went on to have erectile dysfunction.
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" Jeremiah 17:9
You said it correctly; pornography is disgusting. I tend to think of pornography as a “craft.” The dictionary states that a craft is a “skill in evasion or deception; guile.”
Since we are all fallen creatures, we are all susceptible to seeking out things that are good and things that are bad. The pornography is a program, meticulously constructed and designed by the enemy to entrap us and to deceive us. The craft is the method in which pornography viewing becomes ever increasingly repetitive, it’s like the old potato chips commercial which boldly states; “Bet you can’t just eat one.”
Through Jesus Christ alone are we able to overcome this craft and live in peace, free from the death of sin.
I once heard a pastor describe pornography as a demon. The demon of pornography. I’ve never forgotten that and think about it as an entity now. It is truly an insidious, creeping, and clinging sort of thing.
Of course Prager thinks it’s ok. His people love subverting nations with pornography and degeneracy. You don’t get kicked out of 109 countries for no reason.
Judaism fails to understand how holy God is
@Witch Doktr Christianity as well?
@Witch Doktr and why do you say so
Or how we ourselves are to be Holy too.
1 Peter 1:15-16
"But now you must be holy in everything you do, just as God who chose you is holy. For the Scriptures say, “You must be holy because I am holy.”
Not Judaism, Rabbinical Judaism. There's a difference. Messianic Judaism/Biblical Christianity does understand the holiness of God much better than Rabbinical Judaism. Rabbinical Judaism is based on the teachings of the Pharisees and their successors. Messianic Judaism/ Biblical Christianity follows the teaching of Jesus Christ. The title Christ is a derivative of the Greek word χριστός (chrīstós) meaning "anointed one" which is the title that refers to the Messiah.
P.S. For the who are wondering Messianic Judaism mostly refers to a denomination of Christianity that is completely ethnically Jewish, and still holds to some Jewish Culture traditions such as imagery, and the use of kippahs and tallits. But most Messianic Jews prefer to just be called Jews who follow Jesus instead of just Christians. But they aren't apposed to the title Christian, it's just they want to keep there cultural identity as a Jew.
@@soldierofchrist7343 Thank you for your contribution. Peace.
I found it impressive that you did not attack Prager and Peterson in a personal way, or even their character. Digging deep and really explaining how shallow their logic is untangles more than any offensive could have. No matter how logical and truthful a person may be, only the Holy Spirit in a wholly surrendered believer in Christ can be led into all truth.
It blows my mind that someone as smart as Dennis Prager could honestly say that it’s not sinful to lust after a woman because it’s not an action. I feel it’s a pretty simple concept to understand that our hearts are connected to our actions and when we let lustful thoughts simmer in our hearts, our hearts and minds are literally being reshaped by those thoughts. How can a moral and religious person not think there’s anything wrong with that?
Our hearts will always tempt us with sin. To say that a feeling is enough to condemn you is to completely remove value from the virtue of discipline.
Morality and religion don't save, Christ does. Prager rejects Christ. Therefore no self respecting Christian should be taking moral advice from him any more than we would seek advice from a Hindu or a Buddhist. They are all unbelievers. They deserve our love and we should preach the Gospel to them and hope they get saved, but we do not seek morality from them.
@@nj7969 a feeling is enough to condemn us. That’s the point of the Gospel. We literally can’t be good enough on our own and need Christ to overcome our condemnation.
@@KyleT1990 And to live Christs light is to say no to the baser feeling. To be disciplined. Not to never be tempted but to have the strength and faith to resist that temptation.
@@nj7969 I agree thoughts entering your mind aren’t always your fault or something you can control, but feeding those thoughts is, and the feelings that come from feeding those thoughts are sinful even if no action is taken.
I wonder how these men would feel if we reversed the situation and asked if it was ok for their wives to watch porn and lust after other men because their husbands weren't fulfilling them sexually? 🤔
I'd also love to know their opinions on body insecurities and the plastic surgery industry.
Fun Fact: Roughly 43% of men watch porn. Roughly 37% of women watch porn
I was not shocked by the men.I was about women.
So your hypothetical question has been pondered by both. I just don't know their answer.
So people you know watch porn and you don't know it.
As Billy Graham said 40 years ago.
" It is impossible to stay a virgin if you don't have Jesus".
Imagine how much worse sexual temptations are in 2023.
Exactly, women always get a free pass on this subject
1. Most men won't mind if their wives watch porn.
2. Depending on your life situations(intimacy status), the lust can come immediately as a thought (just like you can become angry when you are hungry, your stomach is empty and you see a well cooked meat), and you have to struggle with it. Push it down and wait till you can get your home meat.
I am not saying it is okay to watch porn or lust. I am saying it is important to fulfill each other needs. It's a must. Husband and wife. Sexually and emotionally. Otherwise it will open the door for thoughts that should not be there. For most men, the struggle is not a joke. It feels like that we are not built to be monogamous, but we have to. Sex is a weakness for most men.
@S91 Ridiculous comment you absolutely only speak for yourself when you say that most men won't mind. Most men would find that repulsive just like, at our core, we find promiscuous women repulsive.
@@ianjones2731 Where did I speak for myself? It's an observation. I suspect that you also believe that the majority of men are faithful to their wives, am I right?
A very disappointing take to hear from Dennis Prager!
Fr. 😒
He’s pretty much always been the absolute worst 😂
I was going to say this! Disappointing, but not surprising 😅
So disgusting. He deserves all criticism coming his way. He's obviously making excuses for his personal sins. Shame on him for claiming to speak for all jews.
He explains the exact problem with Judaism
As someone who has been affected by this, thank you for speaking out about it. The women affected by it don't need to be made to feel anymore than they do that it is their fault. Relationships are destroyed by it. Not to mention the industry is so corrupt and evil.
hmm my husband has the desire for sex 9 times what I have, but I'm not going to give it to them very often only the bare minimum and then control what they do on their own so not only will I neglect them I will then demand they stop fulfilling their own wants needs and desires, because my feelings are hurt, even though I ignore hurting their feelings all the time by demanding they accept the intimacy level I CHOOSE, and then I gaslight him and say his desire to be intimate and loved is WRONG and he's a SINNER! and then I'll drag him to a physiologist likely also a women, who will then side with me and we'll both dog pile on them and control his sexuality, and tell him what he can an can't do. So we don't have to do anything for them in the relationship, but he still has to work hard get injured and earn money, to provide for MY lifestyle. And how dare he want sex from me, I've had a headache for 30 years every night he asks he should just shut up and buy me stuff while I jack off in the shower to my vibrator that does a better job then he ever could.
Thank you so much for posting this. I am heartbroken to hear the justification of sin. I had no idea they held these beliefs.
"They" don't hold these beliefs, only Dennis Prager!! And that's not surprising - Dennis is a horndog, based on the articles he's written on this subject.
You are 100% right. I was also shocked when heard that conversation. It changed the way I thought about Dennis Prager
It took his public congratulations of David Rubin and his partner on their surrogate child adoption that I no longer listen....Glen Beck too.
You do know that Jews don't believe in Satan correct? Prager has also admitted this on other interviews. I wish Christians would study what Jews actually believe especially what is written in the Talmud which was compiled after the Temple was destroyed as prophesized by Jesus. The average Christian would be shocked. Jews don't talk about this with Christians.
"Do not covet" is entirely a matter of the heart. "Love your neighbor as yourself" is also one of God's direct commandments. Porn is antithetical to that ideal and to those explicit commandments.
RIGHT
Exactly, coveting is not a physical action
Saying porn is better than adultery is like saying getting 30/100 on a test is better than getting a zero. It doesn’t matter, they’re both Fs
...So its not an improvement over the zero?If you are an healty man,i think its normal to be aroused and sometime if you dont "empty the canister",it can be kinda hard to concentrate on certain task at hands.We are only human,we sin,make mistake and expecting people to just instantly become textbook "good christian" seem a bit extreme of a task.
@@George_Gogo01 A lot of men these days have zero discipline and commitment issues. Many of them today have very low testosterone, social anxiety, all different types of addictions, obesity…. You name it. Much more common now than it was even back in the early 2000s. Look at the gym rats with college degrees. Those guys have discipline. You can’t have an incredible physique + college degree without being in the right mental state. Take notes.
@@George_Gogo01 why are you focused so much on the specifics of his example? You miss the point. And no, it is impossible for people to "instantly" adopt a perfect Christian lifestyle. It is a daily struggle and commitment
There are just simps and idiots here in the comment section.
Calling something a sin that 90% men do isn't constructive problem solving. It's shaming. It's the same as crying "we live in a patriarchy that oppresses women". You're not even asking yourself why the vast majority of men do it, you have no idea what science says on the topic, you're just quick to judge, and this judgemental opinion doesn't even come from you, but from women.
Seriously. F_ck this society!
@@John3_16-17 Because the way he is saying it,its seeing the glass half-empty.Saying that they are "both F",imply that they are in the same category...we are talking abouth fucking adultery here!
As a woman, I say thank you for this. I would add that people used in the porn industry are among the most unrespected people. A celib using pornography is already sinning by not respecting the people he looks at... and not even respecting himself. Is there any place left for debate ?
God bless you Isaac !
Dear Isaac, the only Christian UA-camr my 14 years old daughter likes to watch is you, I would love it if you could make a video about wholesome speech and the problem of speaking profanities and promiscuous talk, it would be a blessing. I don't know if you already did, if so, please let me know. Thank you for all you do for the Kingdom.
He has one titled should Christians swear?
Yeah, and also check Isaiah Saldivar, he’s another good teacher. Just in case you would like more.
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@@joelc.775 did you not read tebard's wisdom?
@@joelc.775 you'll see how that method plays out then I guess, enjoy
The problem with Porn is not in just looking, but that looking/watching is aiding and abetting of the sin (those actively creating the porn). To say that watching porn is not a sin because you are not the one creating the porn, is as ridiculous as saying that watching a snuff film is not a sin, because you're not the one committing murder. And saying that watching snuff films is better than committing a murder is absolutely ridiculous and same with watching porn as opposed to committing adultery.
Adultery is when you are married and lust at someone else
Exactly. Most people don’t just watch it. They use it to masturbate. So it’s a bigger issue.
Interesting take. God bless
This was my issue that no one seemed to have brought up. Prager would 100% say that acting in porn, having sex on film to post online for all to see, is sinful. Yet he deems it okay to watch? It's extremely hypocritical. That is not how God intended us to view women. Lustful eyes are for your wife only.
Can we take a moment to recognize porn treats women as objects and not as humans and the fact of all the sex trafficking that takes place in that industry? Very shocked by Prager's outlook on this but I appreciate his honesty.
I'm taking that moment. Thank you and God bless
The church does the same thing to women and children.
You can not watch that type of porn and find plenty where none of that is the case, and I'll beleive you're porn treats women as objects when all women stop treating men as wallets.
@@LegoSwordViedos Lol, imagine defending porn. Also, by your own definition you fail to prove your point. If you are watching a porn video regardless of the content to get off to someone you don't know and will never meet what is that female to you? An object or are you claiming you can actually have feelings for a female you are seeing on a computer screen? Best to you my friend.
@@chairmanoxygen6811 Aristotle is that you?
'For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather round them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.' - 2 Timothy 4:3, NIV.
Thanks for this. I'm trying to depart from pornagraphy. I didn't realize it was an addiction until it was too late. I never thought I would have this problem.
John Doyle on UA-cam has an excellent video on pornography and how it’s destroying manhood. Once you realize you’ve been given a lie, and you understand the brain is literally rotting, that will be the road to recovery. For me at least, it’s been years and I’ve no desire to watch. You should hear Billie Eillish’s take on porn. Even she gets it!
@This IS my care face. Thanks, brother. God bless you.
I have a gf of 6 years and a 5 year old daughter and I still struggle with it even though my needs are fulfilled by my gf, it is definitely an addiction. It's actually funny I came across this video cuz I almost gave into the urge today. God really is something, man
Anytime that urges rises up, fill your thoughts with the Bible and pray intensely. Pray intensely. Even in your mind, speak in tongues. And also accountability helps.
I have had this problem. I worry that I will go to hell because I didn’t know it was a mortal sin.
Thank you for always doing your part to spread the truth of the Gospel
I was so triggered by their video I had to turn it off. I lost so much respect for Dennis. Porn has stolen all intimacy from my marriage, and from the start. We’ve been married 14 years and he keeps falling into it and lying about it but won’t get any accountability. Porn is absolutely adultry. Also, you can covet something of your neighbors - because even if it’s nit their wife then it is someone’s daughter. I’m so tired of people acting like porn is no big deal.
True.May your marriage be healed.God bless!
Why the hell did you marry him
Yes, it has destroyed my 26 year long marriage as well.
I have 5 young sons and I pray that they will grow to be as wise as you, Isaac!
Man, you really seem like you're on the right track in life. I pray God blesses you abundantly in Christ, brother. I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.
Spot on! I've never seen a marriage where porn did not destroy some part of it, if not all of it.
“Remember if a man beats the family dog at least he isn’t beating the family.” -Dennis Prager (basically)
Perfect analogy.
"basically". That made me laugh. God bless
Just gonna add this
“The righteous one takes care of his domestic animals, but even the mercy of the wicked is cruel.” Proverbs 12:10
This argument that being pro porn in any situation just showcases how far “sexual liberation” has come. The idea that men(or women) can’t stay morally committed as well as physically committed to their spouse is absurd.
Wow, this was shocking to hear coming from these guys. I don’t care if people think it’s harmless if done in restraint… it will ALWAYS end in hurting you and those around you. I’m reminded of the passage that talks about sin being pleasurable for a time but its end is death.
I never hear these men talk about the harm porn does to daughters. They always just mention the wife as the one harmed. I guess because they think they can hide their lechery. They never think about the harm this dies to the children. It’s ok for them to use someone else’s daughter, but somehow she’s supposed to think she’s safe with a dad like that? Forget it. Your honor is GONE from being a good father.
Only Prager was defending it.
Lol disabled people should get no pleasure in life then? because no women would want to be with ugly people like that, so, I guess they can never do anything like that either. But that's not a problem you'd ever face so you don't give a crap about the ugly people in society who will get no intimacy or chance at pleasure, so as long as the situation favores you throw everyone else under the bus. Ugly people and disabled don't deserve love I guess or even the feeling of it. they just need to work as tax slaves for us and then piss off and die I guess.
@@sonofhibbs4425 What if you jack off to your imagination?
Wow, didn't expect Prager's stance on this...
If you're suprised by what Jews actually believe, wait until you find out what's in their Talmud. Prager has also let it slip that Jews don't believe in Satan.
that is clinical addiction
I used to have a porn addiction and every time I unzipped the stuff I needed to "get off" became increasingly perverse, I thank Jesus for saving me. Now that I'm saved my purity has returned and all the darkness is gone. If he can do it for me, Jesus can do it for you too!!
God bless you
@@Pyroverbs205 thank you, and God bless you too!!!
@@n64danny21 Thank you as well. I appreciate your comment, yea, Jesus can.
Dude you're absolutely killing me with these videos learning a lot God bless
How is watching porn not “wanting her”? It definitely an advancement past attraction. We all know the use of porn, it’s never just looking.
Seriously , I mean if that person was standing right in front of them , I doubt they are going to say , I don’t want her .
God bless
If you're shocked by what practicing Jews actually believe, you'll be shocked with what's in their Talmud including a passage that Jesus is sitting in a pot of boiling excrement in Hell. Look it up. I wish Christians would do more serious study of Judaism both before and after the second Temple was destroyed as prophesized by Jesus.
I heard it. I was shocked to hear what was coming out Dennis Prager's mouth. His standards are so low....
Thank you so much for putting common sense on adultery in this video
😮💨🔥This is true! You are preaching on something sooooo important in todays society. Even in marriage porn will ruin intimacy and is addictive whether people want to believe that or not. Love Jordan Peterson too
If you struggle with any temptation there should always be adherence to the word - resist the enemy. If that isn't working then the last resort is deliverance.
@@Matty_Gamez yeah
I try to look at it as a challenge. Masterbation to porn is a deviant act and I'm better than that. That's how I look at any sort of temptation. I like to challenge myself in overcoming immoral urges
My heart is breaking at these men that I looked up to saying it's OK for a husband to lust after other women and to watch porn 😥
Maybe I missed something, but wasn’t it just 1 person? I only follow JP, don’t exactly recognise anyone else :/
… that’s what happens when you don’t have Jesus.
i like Dennis and I still do because he wrong about this thing doesn't mean he wrong about everything. he a human and he is not perfect, humans are by natural falling being. The only man we can look up and 100% complete trust everything he say is Jesus.
It’s just Dennis Prager. The others don’t have this view.
God set me free from being a slave to porn4 years ago and it healed my marriage. But only because of Gods grace and intervention...
"The lamp of the body is the eye. Therefore, when your eye is good, your whole body also is full of light. But when your eye is bad, your body also is full of darkness." Luke 11:34
Thank you for that passage. God bless
Wow. I saw that Jordan Peterson video the other day and thought the same thing. This is my first video I've ever watched from your channel, and I greatly appreciate the work you do. Subbed.
Flip the tables and all the sudden it’s okay for a wife to text another man and confide in him emotionally and virtually fall in love as long as she doesn’t ACTUALLY physically leave her husband….?
Dennis prager, you need Jesus!
Something I feel that needs to be said is that post-temple judaism is not historic judaism. That is, not the faith of Abraham. However, christianity is. We share the faith of Abraham because as he looked to a future Messiah, we look in the past. So in reality, we are the ones who preserved that ancient faith of our patriarchs. If the modern Jews are truely about Law, they would know that Christ came to fulfill said Law and He wrote the Law. Jesus is YHWH. The Jews hate Him for it. As they did with their prophets, they killed them all.
Todays Judaism is exactly the same as it has always been. It wasn’t called Judaism but it was the religion handed down to the Israelites on mount Sinai by Moses. The Law is not the same as Faith. Faith is believing that God will accomplish what He says and is telling the truth. The law is avoiding evil with the threat of death or punishment. That system didn’t change and people only did well in that system while their leader was led By Gods Spirit. Joshua David and Solomon are examples, but all the law can do is bring death which is why Christ died. He is the only one who can bring life with His power word and Spirit
@@alejandromagnobarrasa9244 I think we're saying the same thing. Our faith has been passed down from Abraham. The Jewish leaders were judaizers, which they are today
@@alejandromagnobarrasa9244 It actually changed drastically. Modern Judaism interprets nearly all prophecy completely differently to get around the hole Jesus being the messiah thing. (Edit: grammar)
Talmudic Judaism goin brazy
@@ugyiggy the destruction of the temple was truly devastating to their traditions. You could almost see the agnosticism creeping in before then, but certainly after. Today, most ethnic jews are secular humanists, completely atheistic in their approach to their worldviews and tradition. Jesus was clearly their messiah, but they loved their traditions and their place among the romans more than the literal fulfillment of their Scriptures. Crazy to think about
It's doesn't matter how religious you are, you need to be born again.
"pornography is the devil's iconography" Fr. Seraphim Rose
As a young man I fell in love with a beautiful christian girl and ceased from all lust once I did. The secret I believe is to love more and lust becomes less powerful. In a sense, if you love God you will obey His commands. Love trumps lust!
you did an excellent job in showing the difference between the world's wisdom and God's wisdom. keep on keeping on, brother!
The tolls porn addiction has on the actual body and mind us rarely talked about; insecurities, low confidence, low energy, anxieties, false perception of sex, corrupts your mind, testosterone levels etc.. which in my opinion is some of the reasons the Bible states you are sinning against your own body.
I even have Athiest / agnostic friends who realise how destructive porn is.
The person watching pornography is participating in sinful behavior. They are watching others do sinful things. They are also benefitting those who are providing the porn and participating in it (people performing sex outside of marriage).
Bingo!
Indeed, and even if those in those video are married to each other isn't there a Bible verse saying to not uncover nakdness of neighbor's wife or something? God bless
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. Math. 5:8
If your spouse could see your thoughts on a screen, and they wouldn't like what they see. Neither would you if you saw theirs. You shouldn't do it. Period.
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.
I’m gonna add a few more here make it a scripture thread.
“While they are promising them freedom, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for if anyone is overcome by someone, he is his slave.‘ 2 Peter 2:19
“Their eyes are full of adultery and are unable to desist from sin, and they entice unstable ones. They have a heart trained in greed. They are accursed children.” 2 Peter 2:14
“Let sexual immorality and every sort of uncleanness or greediness not even be mentioned among you, just as is proper for holy people; neither shameful conduct nor foolish talking nor obscene jesting-things that are not befitting-but rather the giving of thanks.” Ephesians 5:3,4
“Can a man rake fire to his chest and not burn his garments?” Proverbs 6:27
““I have made a covenant with my eyes. So how could I show improper attention to a virgin?” Job 31:1
“But each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own desire. Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to sin; in turn sin, when it has been carried out, brings forth death. Do not be misled, my beloved brothers.” James 1:14-16
I guess the question I've always struggled with is this: I am a single guy who wants to find a partner like most other people. If I see a girl who is around my age, single, and I find her physically appealing, does that still count as lusting after her on account of me liking what I see? I have heard my pastor say that the Bible often used the word "adultery" to cover not just the act of cheating with another person's spouse, but to canvas a plethora of other sexual sins. My question is, what is the line that determines whether an interest in someone is pure or whether it is "adultery?"
I would say if you think of her sexually.
Edit: imo
As far as I know adultery is only if you're married. Sexual immorality in general is also sinful, so it would depend where your mind goes when you see a beautiful woman. The immoral lusting after a woman would be if you're imagining sexual acts with her. Just enjoying the beauty of someone or something isn't sinful. If you're both single and wait until marriage to actually engage in the acts then it is pure.
This is something that’s definitely confusing to me too, and as a single girl. From what I understand finding someone attractive isn’t a sin, but it’s fantasizing about and/or taking steps to sleep with her. When you’re dating a kiss is fine, unless the kiss’s end goal is to sleep with the person etc etc. Also with things like making out it’s not making out that’s a sin but fantasizing about taking it further or actually doing it. And for some people making out is just not a good idea because it leads to sin.
All in all, I don’t know, which is one of the reasons we need grace and forgiveness. Numbers 15:22-31 describes how a person is not responsible for an unintentional sin until you discover your unintentional sin was a sin. You are also (of course) responsible for an intentional one.
Romans 14:23 describes how any action you take that you are unsure if it’s a sin or not is a sin because it’s not done in faith and confidence.
I could totally be wrong, not a paster just another believer, but that’s what I think of it. If you disagree please say so and maybe we can all learn something
(Edited for grammar/spelling)
I think it depends on your hearts intention there. You can I believe admire beauty of someone in a respectful way. But if you look in the idea of the pleasure someones body would provide you- that there is Lust
@janedoe2351 you explained it well. Be more confident in your responses! Our body is the church, and we are all pastors once we have learned God's word! No one could have said it better in that particular instance.
I signed up for covenant eyes because of this video. Thanks dude
Statistically, people who watch and or engage in pornography become anxious and insecure in their day-to-day life. I used to have this habit and I was miserable. Now I try hard to stay away from porn and I have become far less anxious and insecure. Everything else in my life is the same, the good and the bad, but just getting rid of porn has made my life a whole lot better. Thank you God for delivering me from it.
I thank God for delivering you from it too. God bless you with "a whole lot better" life
I'm in disbelief that those words came out of Dennis Prager's mouth.
Glad someone made a video about this. I was very shocked by his statements
Great response to Prager and Peterson! Modern day mainstream conservatism is crazy. Very little conservatism about it.
These people are trying to split society into two groups. Divide and conquer. Neither is what they say. They add things little by little to drift those given to the title- they start to accept things they never would have if the only “group” they long to be with is God’s and no some mainstream group to feel “safe” within it.
this video is really important and very well done, thank you for your faithfulness and sound doctrine Isaac!
As a Christian there is actually a sense of freedom and chains taken off when you follow Jesus’ command of “even if you look at a woman with lust you commit adultery”. It actually gives you and your wife security and self esteem. It’s also respectful to the attractive person that you aren’t using them as eye candy. Usually when you check someone out you have to do it secretly so no one catches you. If you have to do something that is shameful it probably means it’s bad. It is very freeing to treat all other women as platonic except my wife
@balkancibraca me and my wife are getting married later this year and it’s the same. We aren’t doing anything until after marriage. Pray to God so that no matter what happens he is watching so you’ll be comforted in no matter what happens. If it’s a yes but later, or a yes right now it’s still an answer coming from after he has heard you.
What I love about Jesus is that he humbled people.
The Jews thought they were good just because they hadn't killed anyone yet. Jesus came and said to be good to your brother or else you were a murderer.
The Jews thought they were good because they didn't cheat on their wives. Jesus said if you think about cheating, you're a sinner.
They thought they were following the bible perfectly but the truth is it's actually impossible. That's why we need Jesus cause there's no way we can live a sinless life.
Can we just look at the correlation between porn usage in childhood sexual abuse and serial killers….? Like the fact that porn is so prevalent with these people is TELLING
Can you look that over 98% of the population has been exposed to porn? like wow look at all these serial killers they all breath air, they all learned how to walk, they all knew what the color blue was, they all watched TV, they all listened to radio. etc etc.
AMEN to everything you said! I too am very surprised by what Dennis had to say on this. I was not expecting that from him.
God knew pornography would be… objectification of what he intended to be a sacred gift shared between two people open to the gift of life… it’s just disgusting and sad and distorts yet another one of Gods blessings to us.
Maybe it’s just because I have a Christian world view, but it seems like common sense to me that God can see our thoughts and intentions and judge us based on them
Wow, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I would have never thought they'd be of these opinions. How disappointing.
Yes a man without self control is an unsafe man.
Good work, man! I was going to make a video responding to this clip as well. But you hit all the right points!
Porn is dehumanizing.
This channel is awesome. Really helping me get closer to God. Thank you
There’s pleasure in sin for a season. Sometimes we defend our sin because we think we can stop at any time, put down what we picked up. It takes us actually stopping sin for us to see the consequences of it: sin is bondage and it does take away from our relationship with God.
No one thinks they are addicted until they change their mindset and actually try to stop sinning. That’s why I know God is real and the Holy Spirit can break the chains of bondage. Some things come from a mindset shift and some things are supernatural deliverance from unseen bondage.
Bro you're allot wiser than these men
Thanks bro
God bless.
Well said! It makes my heart melt when I hear Godly man speak with purity. Sin is a sin and in God’s eyes there is no excuse why a person has chosen to watch porn or lust upon another person that is not your spouse. Amen
Great answer to this, Thank you 🙏 I'm disappointed that Dennis thinks this way, but honestly not surprised.
The difference between attraction and lust can be pretty thin sometimes. Hard for me to tell sometimes--REALLY hard. If I'm staring though, I stop counting it as lust. Calling it admiration is twisted and I have to shut down that line of thinking before it goes anywhere. It's kind of just you see someone and thinks "whoa she's beautiful" vs. the attitude that thinks that and keeps looking. There's always that thought in the latter person's mind which is "Am I lusting? Or this isn't wrong, she's just beautiful."
Lust is when you want to have sex with someone
Coming from someone who was saved from being a slaved to lust, we have to pay attention to what we pay attention to. Half of the battle. You do that, it's a big help.
In regards to Dennis Prager's view on lust in the heart:
1 Samuel 16:7 - But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, *but the Lord looks at the heart.”*