Cranking No Start -Quick Basic Diagnosis

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  • Опубліковано 14 лип 2017
  • DIYer doing a rapid diagnostic for a cranking no start on a 1996 Geo Metro using basically just a testlight.
    You can see the cause of the fault in this video on my pay channel at www.schrodingersboxqm..com!!
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    For more in depth training on the methods used in this video, visit my other channel Schrodinger's Box Quantum Mekanix:
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  • @carobama
    @carobama 4 роки тому +12

    My 93 Metro quit on me as I was driving. Came across this vid and decided to check the fuse FOR A 2ND TIME, this time I took it out for a better visual and Thank You Very Much, sir. I knew it was fixed when I heard the fuel pump priming. There was a short in my system that I was able to fix too. Great video.

  • @snmdws2759
    @snmdws2759 7 років тому +8

    Man, I've watched a lot of your videos because you are knowledgeable and have a quick way of getting to the problems. I have picked up a few short cuts from you and I appreciate the time and effort you put into these. That being said, those geo metros are awesome. Don't knock em til you try em! Geo for life....

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому +1

      Lol- it's not just you- I have come to find out there is a considerable following for these little Metro's. I don't get it... but I can't deny it lol! You are certainly amidst a lot of company!

    • @snmdws2759
      @snmdws2759 7 років тому

      Schrodingers Box , they are great for commutes or cross country trips. The gas savings for the 93 convertible LSI I had paid for the car. I had it for 100,000 miles and all I did was oil changes and brakes. Maybe grind out the dents from all the vagina rubbing on it every now and then but still worth it. I hope you keep making these videos, the banter in the comments alone is worth the time.

    • @michellet_thatsme
      @michellet_thatsme Рік тому

      @@snmdws2759 😂👉😹👈 Dude my best friend drove one of those back when we were in high school in 2007 and man it took us on some of our wildest adventures. I miss that thing honestly.

  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd 7 років тому +8

    Very well done, Matt. I agree with those who like to see minimalist equipment used, simulating what we might have at the roadside. A similar situation happened to me hundreds of miles from home, and with my family aboard I quickly asked for help from the mechanic in the shop 50 feet away. It took him over an hour to find a blown fuel pump fuse, and to my surprise he only charged me $20 for his time. I think he was feeling a little sheepish he didn't find it sooner. As you say it's not at the top of the list, and other data like the absent spark can send the investigation down the wrong rabbit hole.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому +1

      Yeah there is no shame in taking hours to find an electrical problem- even days to find one that's intermittent. Good for that mechanic. But still doesn't explain WHY the fuse blew as you well know.

  • @cw2lido
    @cw2lido 7 років тому +2

    I'll never tell another mechanic what to do first, I'm all about learning and it's good to see you're back in the Tube!

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому +1

      Exactly. Unless there is only ONE variable, what you do first is scientifically irrelevant. If however there is only one variable and the mechanic takes an unrelated action, well then he is an idiot.

  • @cassiechavarria1167
    @cassiechavarria1167 6 років тому

    I have just started to DYI on my van and I found your website. I thank you for you taking the time to explain things.

  • @8953147
    @8953147 7 років тому +3

    I'm glad your back Matt ; keep the videos coming for us 2%ers!!

  • @InternetDude
    @InternetDude 7 років тому +4

    Nice! One of my all time fave UA-camrs!!! So much better than the mainstream mechanic channels.

  • @viscounttrimingham1862
    @viscounttrimingham1862 7 років тому +1

    Yes, glad to see another video, you're an inspiration to a hopeless amateur, many thanks and keep them coming.

  • @flightmaster178
    @flightmaster178 7 років тому +4

    Thank you Matt for another awesome video! I love the FASTTEC method. Keep up the great work!

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому +1

      Yep it works EVERY time. It is scientifically impossible for it not to work.

  • @johnobiro5202
    @johnobiro5202 4 роки тому +2

    You are absolutely brilliant. I love your knowledge and the way you interpret it. Give me more.

  • @siucbset
    @siucbset 7 років тому

    Back: Glad to see you again. I always like the overwhelming majority of your videos.

  • @thecardoc100
    @thecardoc100 7 років тому +19

    A few notes.
    Avoid probing the female pins in a connector or a fuse block with just a test light or voltmeter probe. It's OK to touch the terminals but don't jam the probe into the pin because that can cause terminal tension issues. As far as when is the right time to check the fuses, the right answer is after you have a sense of direction such as whether you were missing fuel, (pump operation and/or injector pulse) spark or both then you can start to drill down to "why" those were missing. Otherwise any other test choices made would be totally random in nature and could just as easily be wrong or right on any given vehicle.

  • @jadosmart1298
    @jadosmart1298 4 роки тому

    you explain a lot in your videos. they are really helping me. makes me want to add mechanic to my carrier as a part time job. i love troubleshooting.

  • @shaunsautorepairs5410
    @shaunsautorepairs5410 7 років тому +7

    Welcome back matt.. A long awaited video...12 minutes to watch the vid and 45 minutes to read all the comments. Love the humour Keep up the good work

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому +5

      Yeah some of my vids are like Yahoo! News articles.....
      The comments are better than the actual publication lol

    • @itubeutubewealltube1
      @itubeutubewealltube1 4 роки тому +1

      ​@@SchrodingersBox hi , I have a metro too, I just drove through a puddle , it was raining. Did something for an hour , came out, the car started , drove home. Next day the car wont start. All the lights and electical works when I turn the key. Sounds like fuel pump is working. But no "click" and nothing from the starter. Not turning over. I was wondering if the water could of gotten on the starter and caused this problem?

    • @pamelavance648
      @pamelavance648 5 місяців тому

      Watch listen learn and read yep 😊😊😊😊😊

    • @shaunsautorepairs5410
      @shaunsautorepairs5410 5 місяців тому

      Matt... did you just hit the love button for my comment.... it only took you 6yrs...haha

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  5 місяців тому +1

      Hahahahahahaha yeah I was actually doing that for a more recent response but then I thought what the hell- I love that old comment too hahahahaha

  • @owoichoacheme2241
    @owoichoacheme2241 7 років тому

    You are really my good mentor when its come to diagnosis. Thumbs up man.

  • @movingupautodiagnostics8645
    @movingupautodiagnostics8645 7 років тому +30

    You're back! Man I missed you!

  • @georgevalencia1713
    @georgevalencia1713 6 років тому +9

    Finally! Someone with a real brain.

  • @bigfred1696
    @bigfred1696 7 років тому +1

    Love your channel. I have to admit most of your videos are over my head, but trying to learn...thanks man

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому +1

      My other channel is ideal for you then. You should definitely check it out!

  • @johnnyz9927
    @johnnyz9927 5 років тому +2

    Thank Shrondingers Box.....Hopefully soon I can get this Kia Spectra started so I can get to work.Then I can purchase the premium ch. Thank , you have always been informative and I appreciate you..

  • @whitetiger8652
    @whitetiger8652 7 років тому

    Glad to see another new video Matt! Thanks

  • @richard1835
    @richard1835 6 років тому

    I am glad you are teaching again. I learn alot from you. Keep up the good work.

  • @hassanal-herbi8439
    @hassanal-herbi8439 5 років тому +1

    very very clear discription for the not starting problem. thank you

  • @alcyr5655
    @alcyr5655 6 років тому

    Just a new sub., who has watched a lot of your diagnostic videos on crank, no start. A lot of it is way above my head, couldn't even catch it with a ball glove. FASSTEC is very helpful. Still working on getting my sons car running. I just don't want to throw random parts at it. Even worse, it's on my sisters sloped driveway, wind is from the north, and snow. Wishing you and your loved ones a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  6 років тому

      Thanks for dropping by. The more you watch of these, especially my "Diagnosis and Understanding" series, the more you will understand this stuff!

    • @alcyr5655
      @alcyr5655 6 років тому

      Just finished watching your HOW NOT TO FRY YOUR PCM video. That was like gold to me. I've been working on my sons 93 Grand Prix for over a week, after work. Their is so much bad information on youtube, and google. So as a 50 year old man, who prefers older trucks/ I have a'80 Powerwagon 360, 4 bbl, 4 spd, a '57 Dodge 1/2 ton with a '69 Plymouth front clip welded in, for IFS. Daily driver is a '99 Ram 1500. I grew up with the saying, if you cant fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem. Computers are like voodoo to me, scared to fry PCM. Learned a lot by just watching your videos, Fawk tomorrow is going to be -20*C with a wind. Just wanted to say thank you, for sharing your knowledge. The 40 thumbs down are probably from people who cant figure out how to get their bicycle chain back on. Season Greetings from Alberta Canada.

  • @jameswest9802
    @jameswest9802 7 років тому

    Thanks for the videos! I've watched, learned and applied quite a bit especially with my daughter's 2002 Malibu. At the very least I've saved hundreds in diagnostic fees! I'll check out you other channel; I'm sure it's worth it.

  • @phantom21629
    @phantom21629 6 років тому

    Love you videos. You couldn't be any more correct in your process. I always check the fuses first only because in my profession I always have a volt meter handy and I'm usually on the side of the road and its the only hope of fixing it right away being that I will have extra fuses in the glove box. Randomly checking fuses is just stabbing in the dark.

  • @NinjaKittyBonks
    @NinjaKittyBonks Рік тому

    Sound diagnostic skills right there. Well done!

  • @marleythechameleonandherbi2724
    @marleythechameleonandherbi2724 7 років тому

    Good to see you back Matt. Looks like you may be gathering some new material for addressing the "hate mail" again!

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому

      Hahaha already got my list! Just need time to put it together! I got some really good ones!!

  • @garypowell4565
    @garypowell4565 5 років тому

    Good job! I'm learning stuff here, because the usual way I approach problems is with a WAG (Wild Ass Guess), and usually just start replacing shit. Thanks for all this valuable knowledge.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  5 років тому

      Hahaha "WAG"- I am going to have to borrow that one from you lol!!

  • @ampload
    @ampload 6 років тому

    Ok I will try that... Thank you so much Matt ... your the Best !!! I appreciate your help alot my friend .

  • @JasbirSingh-zj1fg
    @JasbirSingh-zj1fg 7 років тому

    Great job diagnosing the 3 cylinder Geo Metro. Of course one never knows ahead of time where the problem might lie but only the smart guys who know what they are doing find the problem as fast as you did. So once again, this was great.
    My 8 cylinder VW Touareg also has been acting up. It has this weird gas-mileage problem and no mechanics have been able to diagnose it because the Touareg behaves good when it is at the shop. The problem with the truck is that during my commutes to work, most of the time it gives me poor gas mileage (15.5 - 16.5mpg average), but sometimes (~15% of the time) gives me very good gas-mileage (18 - 19 mpg average). Usually (but not always) the good gas mileage is accompanied by more power and slightly better sounding engine.
    At first I thought it probably had something to do with engine-temperature or humidity etc, but after many weeks of observing I have to say that neither engine temperature, nor humidity, or traffic conditions, or AC on/off, have anything to do with it. It seems it simply has to do with what mood the truck is in. When the engine feels powerful, I drive it slightly more aggressively and still end up with the same great gas mileage. Needless to say, I want great gas mileage accompanied by more power, all the time.
    Have you ever come across such an issue? Where do you think the problem might lie? I have some basic scanners but being a novice, I need guidance as to what I should observe and what I should look for. TIA

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому

      WHat data do you have?

    • @JasbirSingh-zj1fg
      @JasbirSingh-zj1fg 7 років тому

      I am new to engine diagnosis so I don't much know about which data to watch. However, after watching your videos on Fuel Trim a few days ago, I watched mine and what I saw is-
      1) When the engine is fully warm, the multiplicative LTFT stabilizes at around 4% on both banks, but does not always stay there. Sometimes bank 1 rises to 5.5% (and stabilizes there) and bank 2 rises only to 4.7%. Occasionally bank1 rises to 6.6% and bank2 to over 5% and stabilizes there. However, most of the time it is around 4%. The additive LTFT is almost always around -1%.
      2) The Lambda for all 4 sensors is almost always at 1.00. Upon deceleration, two of the sensors rise to 1.99 but the other two remain around 1.00. I'm not sure if this is normal.
      3) The only thing that may be odd is the voltage for rear o2 sensors. It rises to over 0.6v when cruising or when engine has been idling for a while. Doesn' t that indicate a rich condition? I have brand new front catalytic converters. Shouldn't the rear o2 sensors always be around 0.45v?
      I have not been able to figure out where to find the voltages for front (pre-cat) o2 sensors. There are some values that show voltages of around 1.55v (on both banks) when cruising which rise as high as 4.2v when decelerating. I suspect that those are the front o2 sensors but I don't know why the voltage range is so different from the normal (0.1v- 0.9v) o2 voltages.
      What else should I watch?

  • @eastloscalifas4568
    @eastloscalifas4568 7 років тому +4

    thank you for sharing some knowledge with us..

  • @942doc1
    @942doc1 Рік тому

    Awesome, came here to diagnose a no start camry. Got a solid clue of where I got to be.. (I remember watching your vids awhile back) definitely knew this guy knows what he's talking about 👌

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  Рік тому +1

      Hope you solve it!!!

    • @942doc1
      @942doc1 Рік тому

      @@SchrodingersBox yep, did too. it was a blown fuse that supplied 12v to the ignition coils. I think I blew it when I tried jumping the starter to check compression after I rebuilt the motor..

  • @newlife3990
    @newlife3990 3 роки тому +1

    Great tutorial, well done.

  • @davidh7636
    @davidh7636 7 років тому

    Enjoyed video. Nice to see the steps you take for diagnosing the no start condition. I never knew that if the fuel pump doesn't work, the computer shuts of the ignition. Not like the old days. That can get confusing. No fuel equals no ignition. Weird. Thanks for the video. Good to see someone that knows what they are doing working on cars.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому

      Yeah it's not so much that the PCM shuts down the ignition- it's more that the secondary shares the same circuit so when the fuse blew, both fuel and spark were affected. But indeed sometimes the PCM can independently control a cylinder. For example on some models a misfire in a cylinder may result in PCM shutting down that injector intentionally to prevent washdown and cat contamination.

    • @davidh7636
      @davidh7636 7 років тому

      Thank you. Good to know.

  • @Pablo_Automotive
    @Pablo_Automotive 7 років тому +2

    Great job Matt, the FASTEC is a good sistem of diagnostic.
    Regards from Spain.

  • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
    @InsideOfMyOwnMind 7 років тому +4

    I bought the predecessor to this new in 1984. It was the Chevy Sprint by Suzuki. It got 60mpg hwy with a carburetor.

  • @henryszweblik3626
    @henryszweblik3626 4 роки тому +1

    thank you for sharing some knowledge with us.

  • @butchbiker9179
    @butchbiker9179 6 років тому +1

    Imy Geo metro was doing the same. Yes it was the fuse he replaced in this video. thanks!

  • @FASTECAUTO
    @FASTECAUTO 6 років тому +1

    Hey boss you really inspire me!

  • @tiitsaul9036
    @tiitsaul9036 7 років тому

    good to see you again

  • @jaimegenovajr3257
    @jaimegenovajr3257 5 років тому +2

    I really learned a lot on your videos brother

  • @paulalferez4339
    @paulalferez4339 5 років тому

    Much better video presentation. Stayed on da subject thru da whole subject.👍

  • @1968hambone
    @1968hambone 7 років тому

    Very well done man!

  • @whoisharo4689
    @whoisharo4689 Рік тому

    Love the name of this channel. Very clever 🐱🐈

  • @konyoha
    @konyoha 5 років тому

    good basic diagnosis..Thank you from Indonesia..

  • @alazanjoe
    @alazanjoe 3 роки тому

    very informative and thorough, thank you

  • @rrmech11
    @rrmech11 7 років тому

    hello matt
    nice to see you back

  • @bnewton239
    @bnewton239 7 років тому

    that was quick, a pleasure to watch.

  • @NoIPHU
    @NoIPHU 7 років тому +1

    It's always good to watch your vids. Easy to understand even if English isnt my 1st lang. :)

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому +3

      Thanks!! I get many, many comments that my use of good, proper english actually helps people very much who have English as a secondary language. Good communication is the first step to good understanding!

    • @mrAq_pA
      @mrAq_pA 7 років тому +1

      isten hozott :)

  • @surendrajugdave9295
    @surendrajugdave9295 7 років тому

    good job . all ways for your uploads .

  • @labradormcgraw
    @labradormcgraw 3 роки тому

    Just watched the second installment of this repair on the pay channel. Honestly, Matt, you deserve a medal just for getting within fifty feet of that rancid mobile garbage bin. How can anyone not be embarrassed to bring something like that in for repair? It takes all sorts, I guess.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  3 роки тому +1

      Hahahaha. Man dude you don’t know the half of it. So I don’t want to piss the guy off because he is a very good friend and he is a regular who brings me a lot of business but this was one of his nicer cars hahaha. You should see his work truck. OMG it’s..... You can’t even imagine. The dashboard is missing, the doors are wired shut, the lights were wired in through a residential light switch and once when trying to get the defroster to work a huge mouse nest fell right on my face when I removed the air duct.
      He was also the owner of at least 5 cars shown on this channel- the Suzuki esteem where the subframe rusted out, the “420 code” video where the car smelled so much like weed I was getting a contact buzz, and some very early videos where I did shocks and brakes.

    • @labradormcgraw
      @labradormcgraw 3 роки тому

      @@SchrodingersBox Wow, how do people let their vehicles get into such bad condition? I remember the car with the weed problem - I don't know how you got within a mile of that one either! And as for that mouse nest... words fail me.

  • @todayintheshopbanksy5904
    @todayintheshopbanksy5904 7 років тому

    I hadn't realised you were back to regular postings on the pay channel, I unsubbed when the videos dried up after your promotion. It's really good value, when you consider what you get for your money. Less than the cost of a Pint of Beer over here in the UK. You guys really should give it a watch. And no Matt isn't paying me to say this.

  • @djmalue1
    @djmalue1 3 роки тому

    Great vid man. Ur on point sir!!!!

  • @labradormcgraw2409
    @labradormcgraw2409 7 років тому

    This guy is brilliant... Absolutely brilliant.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому

      Lol you gotta stop binge-watching or you'll go blind my friend!!!!

  • @wyattoneable
    @wyattoneable 7 років тому

    Pretty cool stuff, thanks.

  • @cristobalvillalpando7451
    @cristobalvillalpando7451 9 місяців тому

    Great video, very helpful thank you

  • @jonsdiagnostic5879
    @jonsdiagnostic5879 7 років тому

    Miss you man!

  • @rockt73
    @rockt73 7 років тому

    what a treat a video from the cat!

  • @thatsdaniellelol
    @thatsdaniellelol 3 роки тому +3

    This was actually really helpful as a Crank No Start refresher.. Thank You!!

  • @douglasgreen437
    @douglasgreen437 3 роки тому +1

    👍 Great work....

  • @finwardscott144
    @finwardscott144 3 роки тому +1

    Good job.

  • @buddyboy1953
    @buddyboy1953 6 років тому

    Great video thanks !!!

  • @jethrodgonong2254
    @jethrodgonong2254 6 років тому

    Nice one sir!

  • @wallykaspars9700
    @wallykaspars9700 3 роки тому

    I had the crank but no start problem with my 1998 Ford Escort. The problem was a worn ignition key. I used the original key which was seldom used and the car fired up with no problems. After 16 years of using the key made at a hardware store, it was a bit worn on the edges.

  • @webslinger2011
    @webslinger2011 7 років тому

    Nice to see you again Matt. Scope pattern might reveal something about the fuel pump. I still look forward to your videos although I shifted to working on electric motors.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому

      Yes I was indeed suspecting the pump and tested it but using other methods since most viewers don't have a scope.

  • @abdonrodriguez3586
    @abdonrodriguez3586 6 років тому

    Thank you!

  • @nen.user.3764
    @nen.user.3764 Рік тому

    Anther great video. Narrow that diag down to where in the fuse box first. Always look for obvious visible signs of things. And basic functionality tests.

  • @shaggard12
    @shaggard12 5 років тому

    something you might concider is to use a 12v automotive circuitbreaker inplace of a fuse. breakers come in different amp load sizes. its been my experience that blowing fuses until the problem is found is not only likely but can be a frustrating when you have too continue changing onetime use fuses. it seems to work well for me. like your show and your methods approch the challenges well.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  5 років тому

      Why would you blow fuses until the problem is found? Once you identify the problem circuit there is no need to put another fuse in it until you locate the short first.

  • @kennethkristensen5537
    @kennethkristensen5537 Рік тому +1

    Tip to identify the coil on the relay, use an ohm meter. The contact set will show either 0 ohm or OL

  • @vikasmotortech80
    @vikasmotortech80 7 років тому

    hey!! maat sir.. how are u. Every time you explain something thank you sir

  • @ElegantElliott
    @ElegantElliott 6 років тому +3

    My car cracks slower than that. Any ideas? 5.7 hemi Chrysler 300c

    • @lastname4321
      @lastname4321 6 років тому

      Elegant Elliott change your batrrey bro. .

    • @kirkbrown2147
      @kirkbrown2147 3 роки тому

      Either than batter check voltage drop on the starter circuit

    • @chrismooremusic4383
      @chrismooremusic4383 3 роки тому

      Change your starter and battery

  • @Unknown-gp7zx
    @Unknown-gp7zx 4 роки тому +7

    “Almost looks like a 4cyl, your half way there.” Um.. 3 quarters?

  • @olasdsd6538
    @olasdsd6538 7 років тому +2

    Hey Matt, thank you for the great video! Why is there 1 Volt even though the fuse broke?

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому +2

      It is because the circuit is shared with other circuits and we are just seeing some background.

  • @heyitschinoable
    @heyitschinoable 7 років тому

    The best of the best

  • @aussiebloke609
    @aussiebloke609 7 років тому +6

    Woot - the cat's back! Good to see you have a new video, Matt. :-)

    • @aussiebloke609
      @aussiebloke609 7 років тому

      PS: I'd guess at this point there's a possibility of either a chafed wire somewhere in the fuel pump circuit, or maybe even a pump that's on the way out and pulling a bunch more amps than it should...but not entirely sure why that would have prevented you from getting spark. Are those systems usually interconnected? On the other hand, I AM sitting here in my armchair...and that's why I don't know. :-)

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому +1

      Yes I would suspect the fuel pump first however the ignition is also on the circuit obviously so it is entirely possible the ignition circuit is also the suspect. ANything- fuel injector, coil, fuel pump, and all associated wiring is suspect at this particular point. I will narrow down to what it is exactly hopefully tomorrow.

    • @johnfountain8143
      @johnfountain8143 7 років тому

      Im sure you have thought of this but might be worth measuring the current flow at the fuse , with a slow build of current a 15 amp fuse will carry 20 amps or more for quite some time before it blows
      Best Regards John

  • @vincentnjowe6214
    @vincentnjowe6214 11 місяців тому

    You are the best

  • @InternetDude
    @InternetDude 7 років тому +1

    I have an O2 sensor diagnostic video I uploaded recently. I show what to do to diagnose without a scan tool (pre-OBDII) and without pulling out the parts shot gun.

  • @chrised1115
    @chrised1115 7 років тому +3

    love the video..just wish I could see the end result of what's happening to blow that fuse without paying to watch it on your other channel.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому +2

      Well it depends on how bad you want to see the final fix. If it's not worth the money then it's no big deal. If you can't live not seeing the final repair then of course, the value is justified.
      Only you can decide that.

    • @chrised1115
      @chrised1115 7 років тому +1

      Schrodingers Box I understand, I will honestly probably wind up doing it because I don't like cliff hangers! thank you for your content and reply

  • @wazowski6709
    @wazowski6709 3 роки тому +1

    Hahaha asshats ..... my favourite saying. I love how methodical you are 👍

  • @jamesq8378
    @jamesq8378 3 роки тому

    Iam having crank but no start problem with my 2005 gmc envoy danali. I did discover that my computer relay is getting hot. If I disconnect the battery and reconnect listing for loud clicking then it will start. Today I disconnected the battery for about 3 hrs. Then it seems to always start.

  • @arctican7483
    @arctican7483 2 роки тому

    GOLD!

  • @src4409
    @src4409 3 роки тому

    Just feeling the need to pop in and tell people that the basics don't always diagnose every crank, no start issue.... especially with vehicles later than 03 at least. Cat issues became a really big problem in the mid 2000s. Just got my 08 started after pulling an o2 sensor and spraying seafoam into the cat. And then I torched the sensor end of my o2 sensor to burn off the build up....red hot. Car fired up and ran for quite awhile. Will probably have to replace the cat and the o2 sensors shortly, but this was a quick fix until I can get the parts ordered. I had zero codes at all. Once I got it running I had a cat/o2 code that was there months ago and went away. Hope this helps people who have tried everything with no prevail.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  3 роки тому

      that’s makes no sense. none of that would cause a no start. absolutely impossible. sounds like you accidentally did something to start the car by bumping something and didn’t know what it was. that’s the only way those things would “fix” a no start because a car will start perfectly fine even with just O2 bias or no catalytic activity.
      Diagnosis ALWAYS WORKS. EVERY TIME. Guess work only works when you are lucky. that’s why you should never guess.

  • @garysurovec
    @garysurovec 7 років тому

    I agree, hindsight is always 20/20 in the end. Sometimes fuses just "go" for no reason other than it's their time. I only worry about changing a fuse when it's black on the inside, that means it definitely went open because of a catastrophic failure (short) of some sort. If it is just open and clean looking on the inside I don't sweat it, changing it is all you can do at that point and wait and see if a failure of some sort presents itself more clearly in the future.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому +1

      Fuses do not "go for no reason" especially over time. You also cannot possibly determine anything by how the fuse blew. You definitely need to change your thinking about this- it is completely wrong.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому

      Completely wrong. This is BASIC ELECTRICAL. There is ALWAYS an etiology for a fuse blowing. ALWAYS. They do not just blow for no reason and you cannot determine anything from the look of how it blew. If as a professional electrician you have just been replacing blown fuses because you think they "just blow sometimes" then you are a disgrace to your field and a danger to people.
      You are an idiot if you haven't learned this over 35 years pal.
      BASIC electrical fundamental concept.

    • @garysurovec
      @garysurovec 7 років тому

      Would you consider an engine compartment a harsh environment? An environment where fuses would sustain harsh vibrations and temperature fluctuations that could cause breakdowns in the fuse itself? If not you need to re-evaluate your own arrogant assumptions. Let me ask you this... do parts ever fail in your world? Everything is manufactured so cheaply these days how can we even assume the fuse wasn't defective being overrated in it's current handling capabilities due to a manufacturing flaw? You're the one making assumptions that fuse was in a pristine environment for all these years and perfectly manufactured to tolerances never seen by humans before. IT IS POSSIBLE there is an intermittent short, in the meantime all you can go on is face value, YOU stuck in a new fuse without measuring current draw, using a bulb or circuit breaker, you HAVE a current meter USE IT!!!

    • @garysurovec
      @garysurovec 7 років тому

      You present nothing but straw man arguments and insults, have a nice day.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому

      Omg you are an even worse logistiician than electrician. You clearly don't even know what a straw man fallacy is.
      Give me ONE example where I used a straw man argument. Just one.

  • @JakeNaughtFromStateFarm
    @JakeNaughtFromStateFarm 2 роки тому

    I say check the fuses/relays first simply because it’s easiest. Got a coworker that had a bus with wipers stopping intermittently. Stole a motor off another one, changed the switch, check the air in the tires (j/k there), etc. After being down almost a week, turned out it was a bad relay.
    I hear what you’re saying and you’re right: that fuse blew for a reason and there’s nothing wrong with investigating further. I’m just saying always check the easy stuff first. Just my two cents.

  • @webslinger2011
    @webslinger2011 7 років тому

    You could drive it around and have a go at it. Had a small nissan micra that could only go about 25km/hr. Above that, it stutters and wasn't able to go faster. Ihad put in a spare pump I found in the boot.

  • @baddriversofnorthtexas6850
    @baddriversofnorthtexas6850 7 років тому +2

    Ill be towards colorado springs in a month, cant wait.
    A high of 80 degrees there vs 105 here.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому +1

      Yeah the springs is usually a good 10-15 degrees cooler than Denver. I have been working in Phoenix a lot this summer. It's been brutal!!! Last trip was 122.

    • @baddriversofnorthtexas6850
      @baddriversofnorthtexas6850 7 років тому

      Schrodingers Box I wonder how much HP is lost up there because of elevation, and what percentage of people have thrown on turbos to make up for it.

  • @scottburgess6417
    @scottburgess6417 6 років тому

    It's always the last thing you check, because then you stop checking! Why would you keep looking once you find the problem? So of course someone will say "you should have checked that first". Thanks really like the videos!

  • @francoisdumaine474
    @francoisdumaine474 3 роки тому

    In order to verify spark, should we connect the test light to the negative post of the battery? Thank you.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  3 роки тому

      Yes you can do that. any ground will work. Some will say it’s safer to use a chassis ground but it doesn’t matter.

  • @nicholaslynch7651
    @nicholaslynch7651 7 років тому

    Dr.Schrodinger can u please do or tslk abt how to change a cylinder head on a dual over head cam like a boss. I seen the chilton but I'm wondering if there are any cheats like there is on single cam

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому

      I have a couple of cylinder head videos on my channel. Changing on DOHC, SOHC or pushrod are all similar. It's just a matter of how many cams you need to time.

  • @Eurospec73
    @Eurospec73 Рік тому

    Great video man. I have a crank no start on my 2.8 liter VR6 the motor was just freshly rebuilt and I believe I'm getting no spark. I checked all fuses and they are all good, the ECM relay is good as well. What could be causing this crank no start/ spark issue?
    What a ground wire missing from the transmission to the chassis cause this?

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  Рік тому

      right now you have to first determine the missing FASTEC component. once you do then you will be able to pursue variables. if you find the coils are not firing AND they are internal transistor design then yes a bad ground is possible. otherwise it is not possible since each coil would be ground side switched.

    • @Eurospec73
      @Eurospec73 Рік тому

      @@SchrodingersBox 🧐🤔 I see what you mean. I'm not quite familiar with the term "FASTEC component"
      but I think you're referring to a missing electrical wiring component? Is that what you mean? In a nutshell from my understanding the ECU relies on several ground points throughout the engine and some on the transmission to crank and start and run properly.
      I definitely think I'm missing a ground wire from my transmission to the chassis as I just found a photo I took out the car last year and it was on there. I'm going to go and try to reconnect it, and hopefully the car will start 🙏✝️ thanks again for your support on this. I'll keep you posted.

  • @DENicholsAutoBravado
    @DENicholsAutoBravado 6 років тому +1

    The comment I made on your recent video about how following the scientific method doesn't mean you're "wrong" to check the part that isn't bad first seemed to belong a lot better here, lol. Wow. I really need my boss to watch this, but he may just remind me again the other day that I should have checked a fuse first. Sigh. ;)

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  6 років тому

      Just tell him that you have a perfect 100% record of always finding the problem in the last place you looked lol

  • @8683roy
    @8683roy 7 років тому

    Matt could you please elaborate about the fuel & ignition being on the same circuit? I've always thought they were separate circuits & when you pulled the fuse it only said "FI". Are they always together or just on certain models? Is there typically no ignition fuse then or does that vary between models?

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому +2

      Just certain models. On my other channel we cover the wiring diagram for this model in searching potentials for the short circuit and I can tell there are other things besides fuel and ignition on it!! It's one busy circuit (which makes tracking a short much harder of course!)

  • @kennethkristensen5537
    @kennethkristensen5537 Рік тому

    Hi Matt. Where can I get the test light led with the orange handle?

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  Рік тому

      No idea hahaha- it was a gift from a viewer. Not even sure what brand it is!

  • @renejacques8288
    @renejacques8288 6 місяців тому

    Can you comment on why a blown fuel pump fuse gives you no spark? I thought the cam/crankshaft control the spark.
    My car problem is I have a 1995 Maxima. I did a piston and ring job on it; now it cranks but won't start. I have spark. Two of my six cylinders are below min. psi(125 instead of 142). I'm using starter fluid.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  6 місяців тому

      It’s probably because the ignition is on the same circuit

  • @chocachips
    @chocachips 6 років тому

    The coil on the relay will have a low resistance. Ohm meter. Or put 12 volts to the relay you’ll hear a click when you got the oil

  • @finwardscott144
    @finwardscott144 2 роки тому

    I have a 96 Geo Metro and them fuse is good.. But no spark and still looking into that.. I don't have a tester nor a jumper. Hard to tell when someone pulled the motor and tranny. I will be looking at the crank sensor to lead me places. First the clutch has a grinding noise. So I need to pull tranny and fix it. Then tackle the no start. Has fuel running to the motor but no spark. Has a new coil...new motor n heads..new plugs and wires. Rotor also.

    • @finwardscott144
      @finwardscott144 2 роки тому

      You have a good way of teaching and showing how to help others. Awesome man..we need people like you.

  • @richard1835
    @richard1835 6 років тому

    I was just curious if I could use Propane into a vacuum source to see if a vehicle will attempt to start. Thank you

  • @uwebuehrle6381
    @uwebuehrle6381 2 роки тому

    turn the key, and listen to the fuel pump ist the first thing. if you do not hear the pump check the fuse if the fuse is OK check the relay if the relay is OK check the ignition switch , if the ignition switch is OK give 12 volt to the fuel pump. if the pump is runing check the wiring if not replace the pump. German mechanics LLC . Maricopa , Arizona.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  2 роки тому

      why not check relay first since that also checks the fuse too? schrodingers box mechanics.

  • @kaybevang536
    @kaybevang536 3 роки тому

    Can a low battery still produce enough spark to crank fast ? Because I change battery on my Honda and it started like normal and got me confused .... just trying to figure out wth did I just fixed..... I hate fixing a problem without knowing it for future reference

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  3 роки тому

      a low battery can absolutely produce enough spark for combustion, but for cranking fast enough- that’s up to the starter. a low battery may not allow the starter to turn over fast enough for the car to start despite there being sufficient spark. I have a recent video in fact where the battery is so weak it doesn’t even turn the engine over 720 degrees yet the spark is clearly strong.

  • @Sonichu_is_watching
    @Sonichu_is_watching 7 років тому

    So the next step would be to look a a power distribution diagram and find all the circuits that run off the fuse? The circuits that are exposed to heat and vibration are likely suspects?

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  7 років тому

      100% correct!!! And exactly what I do to eventually find the fault.