Dolph Ziggler's heel turn had no plan, he was just there to put over talent and he didn't care. They offered him enough where he didn't mind the booking. What did you tthink of Dolph Ziggler's heel turn?
2017 Ziggler reminded me a whole lot of 2005 Christian. Now and then getting thrown into big title matches and Ladder matches as utility players. But most of the time just being booked to lose and lose
@ARod3 yeah he won the title at clash of champions then vacated it for no reason at smackdown then he never went after it after that and never mentioned it again
I always felt Ziggler could’ve really benefited leaving around 2015-2016 and reinventing himself elsewhere and then coming back to WWE like how Cody, McIntyre and Christian did. That he still had a very good career, and a career many wrestlers would kill for.
He’s the prime example of the saying “how can we miss you if you don’t go away?”. Cody and Drew are examples of the opposite and have had a hell of resurgence.
Disagree. 2014 was perfect to push a lot of guys including him. But because both vince/triple h had visions of reigns and rollins as well as cena,they dropped the ball on ziggler,luke harper,cody rhodes initial run,wade barrett,rusev,cesaro,etc. No need to leave when everything theyre doing is whats needed to be considered a star or for a push
@@pleaseshutup7053 you know I’m referring to the fact that they were off wwe tv for years and returned to more relevancy right? How could this be bad examples?
@@HurrikaneBEA5T I don’t disagree with you but it’s been almost ten years since then. He could’ve gone somewhere else and returned with more of a character. He understands character too he does improv, stand up comedy, and has done theatre too. I’m saying if he would’ve been off wwe tv for 2-3 years he would’ve had a different trajectory. Absence makes the heart grow fonder is another saying.
@@DoctorProfessorPablo because being off tv didn’t make them more relevant. Drew got better that is what made him more relevant. Cody was relevant Vince just had to stop being a clown and should have gave him a main event push 10 years ago. Any way Rollins has been on tv consistently he is more over than ever so your point makes no sense
Him losing the IC title right back to Miz after that great feud was the nail in the coffin. That was the “nothing’s ever gonna happen with this guy” moment for fans.
And why did they do this? No reason whatsoever, No Mercy 2016 IC Title win could’ve easily been the big push. How do you win the mid card championship and have more momentum than the WHC? I feel bad for Mr. Nemeth, in my honest opinion his (WWE) career was underlooked and under appreciated.
One of the biggest "what if" guy in this business. Every time he got any kind of title his reigns were short or forgettable, seems like Vince didn't like him at all
Hey WP, I would love for you do a series on taking a feud or run then dissect it. And say how you would have booked them or would have changed. I think hearing your style of booking would be interesting.
That Kings Court Segment was some great heel work from Ziggler and great segment overall His deeper voice tone as opposed to Ziggler’s usual high pitched and loud voice tone, taking credit for The King’s heart attack and then attacking King with a super kick Oh and JBL tripping when trying to run into the ring 😂😂😂
I know it wouldn’t have made since but I always felt that when dolph turned heel he should’ve teamed with Miz somehow because I feel it could’ve helped him
2018 would’ve been the perfect year for Dolph to become a top guy. If booked right he could’ve became WWE Champion and top guy on Smackdown but that royal rumble entry was so lackluster and no one cared. What a shame so much wasted potential.
Dolph Ziggler character was especially bizarre in 2017 to 2019 where he became this really self aware character who was this ineffectual heel who was constantly whining about how "It should've been me!" in his promos and just upset over the fact that his career didn't turn out the way he wanted it to and it just felt like creative and Vince were breaking the 4th wall with how terribly they've booked Dolph and misused him over the years...
@@pleaseshutup7053is it rated highly? I thought general consensus is that that the initial feud was good but that it quickly became boring and overdone I remember when the rumble happens and everyone booed at the thought of them having another stale match at mania
@@jamalwalker04 nah cena fans and 09 orton fans overrate tf out of it because they both won a bunch of world titles. They never had that classic match the segments never clicked because cena was on full goof mode. 07 was the best of their long feud but that got cut short
@@pleaseshutup7053Cena/Orton 09 was pure magic for 3 months. It’s worth the hype. Same for the entire 07-09,14. All their PPV matches that fall were Fantastic. Now the Summerslam match was clunky as shit,but they had the fan run in and all that so.. makes sense
Dolph is one of the WWE's biggest what ifs... This mans career was most definitely going to go down in the history books as a decorated grand slam champion and one of the greatest in ring performers of all time if creative just did the right job with him
I love this guy he’s extremely talented and brilliant in the ring. He was involved in one of the greatest cash ins I’ve witnessed it’s sad now that he’s just a jobber he deserves better in my opinion.
This whole thing with Ziggler felt like they were trying to recreate what they did with R-Truth in 2011 Acting all erratically, lashing out at the fans, and just talking nonsense
Yeah I was frustrated as a ziggler fan what they were doing with him around this time in 2017 it was so weird I was like damn vince really don't like my guy or something! It was hard watching him on tv NGL!!!!
After Jeff Hardy left WWE in 2009, I was looking for a new superstar to get behind. In 2012, that guy became Dolph Ziggler, when he used to cut promos back in the day, you used to believe that he really wanted to break out and be a top guy but in the long run, everything he said turned out to be bullshit.
Dolph Ziggler's heel turn had no plan, he was just there to put over talent and he didn't care. They offered him enough where he didn't mind the booking. What did you tthink of Dolph Ziggler's heel turn?
It was alright
2017 may have been bad for Dolph but in 2018, him and Drew were a really good duo
He is good guy is very good........he dont need a heel turn
it was shit until he got paired with mcintyre
2017 Ziggler reminded me a whole lot of 2005 Christian. Now and then getting thrown into big title matches and Ladder matches as utility players. But most of the time just being booked to lose and lose
Dolph vacating the US title after winning it was really bizzare
When Dolph Ziggler had left the United States championship in the ring I didn't understand why he did that.
Wait what I don’t remember this, he did?
@ARod3 yeah he won the title at clash of champions then vacated it for no reason at smackdown then he never went after it after that and never mentioned it again
@@vjwebb6182he was supposed to retire from wrestling and take care of family business or something but later he changed his mind
Dolph is literally a walking example of a lot of us of how we deserve better but because things are going smoothly we just stick around
what do you get when you cross a mentaly ill loner type comment
@@zues491usually a wise ass asking a moronic question..
Why wouldn't you stick around if things are going well?
@@KDB349 because you know you can do better
I always felt Ziggler could’ve really benefited leaving around 2015-2016 and reinventing himself elsewhere and then coming back to WWE like how Cody, McIntyre and Christian did.
That he still had a very good career, and a career many wrestlers would kill for.
I always felt Dolph Ziggler should have been WWE Champion in 2017 over Jinder Mahal
He’s the prime example of the saying “how can we miss you if you don’t go away?”. Cody and Drew are examples of the opposite and have had a hell of resurgence.
Terrible examples Cody been over Vince finally realized that. And drew came back completely different new body new confidence
Disagree. 2014 was perfect to push a lot of guys including him. But because both vince/triple h had visions of reigns and rollins as well as cena,they dropped the ball on ziggler,luke harper,cody rhodes initial run,wade barrett,rusev,cesaro,etc. No need to leave when everything theyre doing is whats needed to be considered a star or for a push
@@pleaseshutup7053 you know I’m referring to the fact that they were off wwe tv for years and returned to more relevancy right? How could this be bad examples?
@@HurrikaneBEA5T I don’t disagree with you but it’s been almost ten years since then. He could’ve gone somewhere else and returned with more of a character. He understands character too he does improv, stand up comedy, and has done theatre too. I’m saying if he would’ve been off wwe tv for 2-3 years he would’ve had a different trajectory. Absence makes the heart grow fonder is another saying.
@@DoctorProfessorPablo because being off tv didn’t make them more relevant. Drew got better that is what made him more relevant. Cody was relevant Vince just had to stop being a clown and should have gave him a main event push 10 years ago. Any way Rollins has been on tv consistently he is more over than ever so your point makes no sense
Him losing the IC title right back to Miz after that great feud was the nail in the coffin. That was the “nothing’s ever gonna happen with this guy” moment for fans.
Man, 2016 Ziggler was peak. 2017 killed every bit of momentum he had, there was really no chance of recovery honestly.
And why did they do this? No reason whatsoever, No Mercy 2016 IC Title win could’ve easily been the big push. How do you win the mid card championship and have more momentum than the WHC? I feel bad for Mr. Nemeth, in my honest opinion his (WWE) career was underlooked and under appreciated.
One of the biggest "what if" guy in this business. Every time he got any kind of title his reigns were short or forgettable, seems like Vince didn't like him at all
Bizarre year in general. Never was a fan of dolph but he honestly deserves better
Best channel ever
Dolph impersonating wrestlers was funny
The Warrior one was my favorite
Hey WP, I would love for you do a series on taking a feud or run then dissect it. And say how you would have booked them or would have changed. I think hearing your style of booking would be interesting.
what story in particular? I need to test it
@@wrestlingspremier Maybe "How can I fix Jinder Mahal's Title Reign" or "How I would have booked The Miz's face turn in 2013"
Asuka’s streak
That Kings Court Segment was some great heel work from Ziggler and great segment overall
His deeper voice tone as opposed to Ziggler’s usual high pitched and loud voice tone, taking credit for The King’s heart attack and then attacking King with a super kick
Oh and JBL tripping when trying to run into the ring 😂😂😂
dolph ziggler deserves better
👍 couldn't said it better
Loved the vid. Was wondering if you would consider doing a video on Alexa Bliss' run as the Goddess from 2016-18?
It’s sad that he doesn’t take his career seriously anymore cause he’s a MAJOR talent but WWE doesn’t acknowledge it’s stars
Here first let’s go im here to world freedommmm!
When I got the notification I immediately clicked on it😉
OMG remember when he had the record scratch before his theme would hit 😂😂😂
I remember that, it was also featured in WWE 2K19 (October 2018/Late 2018)
Dolph Ziggler really is missed potential it makes me sad fr he's very talented . Great video as always !🙏🙏🙏
Dolph is still my favorite Wrestler till this day
The heel turn was just at a drop of a hat he’s need a REAL world championship reign
Dolph Ziggler deserves a lot better than all this
He is the longest serving active member right , no breaks , we can rate that as fans
I could’ve sworn Miz was in WWE since 2004.
Rey?
Does Michael Cole, Mean Gene Okerlund, and Howard Finkel count?
@@theharv1490 Rey left for four years though
@@syahminorizan8064no
I kinda liked that impersonating gimmick with the the sound that cut the music before his theme song
I know it wouldn’t have made since but I always felt that when dolph turned heel he should’ve teamed with Miz somehow because I feel it could’ve helped him
Still better then today he never gets to be on tv anymore
Dolph Ziggler was underrated in 2017
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2018 would’ve been the perfect year for Dolph to become a top guy. If booked right he could’ve became WWE Champion and top guy on Smackdown but that royal rumble entry was so lackluster and no one cared. What a shame so much wasted potential.
Dolph Ziggler character was especially bizarre in 2017 to 2019 where he became this really self aware character who was this ineffectual heel who was constantly whining about how "It should've been me!" in his promos and just upset over the fact that his career didn't turn out the way he wanted it to and it just felt like creative and Vince were breaking the 4th wall with how terribly they've booked Dolph and misused him over the years...
Have you done Armageddon 2004? Great PPV in my eyes. I couldn’t find a WP Cover but I could be wrong!
Rip Ziggler's push
(2013-2017)
(2012-2014)**
You can do this with dolph every year of his career
Dolph Ziggler is special
I was at the show where he literally dropped the US title, and as a Ziggler mark, I was very unhappy that he just gave up the title
Been requesting it for a while, can you do the rivalry between john cena and randy orton?
Yes please do it so it can be exposed how overrated it is
@@pleaseshutup7053is it rated highly? I thought general consensus is that that the initial feud was good but that it quickly became boring and overdone I remember when the rumble happens and everyone booed at the thought of them having another stale match at mania
@@jamalwalker04 nah cena fans and 09 orton fans overrate tf out of it because they both won a bunch of world titles. They never had that classic match the segments never clicked because cena was on full goof mode. 07 was the best of their long feud but that got cut short
@@jamalwalker04 ask a cena fan who is cena greatest rival and the most answers you will get is orton
@@pleaseshutup7053Cena/Orton 09 was pure magic for 3 months. It’s worth the hype. Same for the entire 07-09,14. All their PPV matches that fall were Fantastic. Now the Summerslam match was clunky as shit,but they had the fan run in and all that so.. makes sense
Dolph is one of the WWE's biggest what ifs... This mans career was most definitely going to go down in the history books as a decorated grand slam champion and one of the greatest in ring performers of all time if creative just did the right job with him
Ngl dolph fooled me pretty good with that undertaker entrance
Who's here after Nic Nemeth debuted for TNA?
Do a video on NXT 2.0 or Black and Gold
I love that D Rose comparison 🤟🏽😉
loterally
Can you do cesaros united states championship reign or apollo crew 2020 2021 run
can you do nevilles crusher weight reign
Nice!
John Laurinaitis people power run from 2011-2012?
Post 2012 DZ was rough in usual so it's not a big deal you know
2014 was his peak though…
Can you do Cody Rhodes documentary please ( Day1)
I love this guy he’s extremely talented and brilliant in the ring. He was involved in one of the greatest cash ins I’ve witnessed it’s sad now that he’s just a jobber he deserves better in my opinion.
This whole thing with Ziggler felt like they were trying to recreate what they did with R-Truth in 2011
Acting all erratically, lashing out at the fans, and just talking nonsense
All that is still better than this year
Dolph should have won the Royal Rumble 2018
Yeah I was frustrated as a ziggler fan what they were doing with him around this time in 2017 it was so weird I was like damn vince really don't like my guy or something! It was hard watching him on tv NGL!!!!
After Jeff Hardy left WWE in 2009, I was looking for a new superstar to get behind. In 2012, that guy became Dolph Ziggler, when he used to cut promos back in the day, you used to believe that he really wanted to break out and be a top guy but in the long run, everything he said turned out to be bullshit.
Bad booking 🤷🏾
Dolph Zigglers Career in 2017 was not his year
2017 was not the year of many wrestlers…..
Except Jinder
that sheamus fued in 2015 was his last elite fued imo
No, the one he had with the Miz in 2016. That was his last great feud
@@Slick5150 Seth in 2018
Wait... What? You mean the one with the "Kiss Me Arse Match" lol...?
Dolph has had a rough 10 years lmao
Doplh ziggler in 2017 being a heel was most definitely rough but his 2017 run was better theb his it should been me era 😂😂😂😂😂
it should've been me was sad because we all knew how it would end
@@wrestlingspremier fatcs
Roman Reings 2019 when returned after leukemia please!!
he can still do damage but he has to lowkey demand it he is literally d rose because he doesn’t say nothing and let’s shit happen
he needs to leave and get a redemption story like cody
And they made jinder champion over him
Name change, new character, and gimmick would be better. Need a resurgent.
Playing the same character is stale at this point.