Correction: the T4K (original) also has Hall effect sticks, the difference is that this is for Xbox and not switch. The original T4K review is linked in the description if you want to check it out. Any comments just saying the sticks are hall have been removed because the pinned comment addresses it.
@@idogaming3532 gamesir really makes some weird choices sometimes. Another one is to call the premium xbox kaleid, just "kaleid". At least they added Flux to the other cheaper model.
so if you want a switch version your out of luck, thats kinda trash tbh but they did need and xbox version for sure. now i actually have a controller to recommend to people.
-The old Kaleid had hall effect sticks. -The Kaleid flux does not have static lights. It’s the same as the other versions and can be changed in the app. -Kaleid is pronounced like kaleidoscopic. Referring to the lights. it’s literally pronounced wrong in every video I see lol.
@@stevensv4864 I don’t do fighting games sorry mate. If it helps at all it’s very responsive for up, down, left, right for what I use it for which is BF1. It controls gadgets etc in that game and it’s instant when I press. The controller is even better now I have overclocked it to 500hz.
Been waiting for this one... It's like they just refuse to include all their features in one model so they can fill out their line SMH. Mechanical switches, hall effect sticks, rubber grips, overclocking capability, trigger / rear buttons locks. Charge an extra $30 and take our $, wireless worth some extra $.
Same here. I've been biding my time as I really don't need a controller, got a gulikit king Kong 2 pro which is serving me well for how rarely I use controllers to play games anyway, but I really really want just one end-game controller that's all the gamesir features combined into one. I could easily buy the kaleid models now and just use the gulikit for wireless but yea.
I wonder if it is on the brands or more on Microsoft side not allowing every company to make wireless. There are literally wireless controllers for every other platform, it doesn't make sense for GameSir to just not make one for xbox too
@@jm_sc they do make wireless controllers? I think the only reason they don't make some of the controllers like kaleid wireless just because they're playing the long game Releasing better and more featured controllers every half a year or so
@@Verchiel_ Kalei doesn't have a wireless version, but their other models do, same with 8bitdo. They don't make wireless because it would be significantly cheaper than the Elite 2, Microsoft don't like that
True. Still they're big so it gives lots of room to hold however you want. On others like the flyDigi Apex 4 I have to shoot with R2 and L2 despite preferring L1R1
Man you reviewed all of these gamesir controllers if you have to classify them which one is the best in all aspects? For wired and for wireless i want to use it on my gaming rig especially on fifa and aaa titles or story modes that has less shooting in the game cuz nothing approach to my gaming mice logitech g 502 hero form any controller in terms of shooting
If gamesir gives us a pro wirelles version of this with rubber grips, a trigger stop system that makes them clicky and perhaps a 2k pollong rage it would be an INSTANT blu for me. Also, in the review i think its not clear that you actualli can change the input mode of your t4k by pressing the home bottom + a, b, x or y. You can change to xinput, ds4, switch or generic controller, and the light in the home button changes accordingly.
Sorry this is late, happy memorial day, thank you for your service captain. And I'm looking forward to the mobapad huben video. Not demanding, just saying.
I unfortunately got a defective unit /: couldn’t calibrate them due to the triggers not being able to be fully actuated to the “255” on the nexus app, had actual stick drift out the box (had to up the Deadzones to 20), and couldn’t change the polling rate.. kinda bummed but ordered another one GameSir was really kind and tried to help best they could through emails but unfortunately couldn’t fix the issue. Anyways, great video Kevin! 🖤
Your videos helped me over clock my gamesir g7se to 1000hz, thank you so much!! Do you happen to know how to get it back down to 500hz so that maybe I have a chance to use the headphone jack?
I have the older t4 kaleid. I liked it a lot but stopped using it bc I missed the short trigger pull of my elite series 2 with the actual trigger stops vs the digital ones on the kalied. If they just introduced that 1 feature I would probably buy the new version and leave my elite series 2 behind.
Very informative; however, I'm still conflicted between this, the G7 (SE) and 8bitdo controllers. Will you be reviewing the new 8bitdo Ultimate C controller anytime soon?
I did recently seitch back to the T4 from the Vader 3 pro due to preferring the switches if the face button. But also been using the G7 on mobile and now prefer those membrane switches.
oh my god i love you for this review i was wondering if the new kaleid had anti friction rings but in your opinion whats better the g7se or the new kaleid
hey bro i wonder something i have the kaleid and g7 se kaleid arrive just a few days ago, after i try it have a bad point justonly one and its microswitch dpad for fighting games, it is really hard to do combos, with g7 se is so easy.. but let me tell you what is good bc is a lot.. 1000hz native windows 10 500 hz with audio vibration feels much more stronger and deep even in level 3 it is better than the g7 se in level 4.. RGB for more fps :v i think im gonna sell this kaleid and buy the flux one bc i think is just the same but with membrane, doesnt it?
from what I know, this model is/was also known as the K1 Kaleid (idk why they omitted the K1 from the name because it really helps differentiate itself from the T4 controllers)
I would only use this as a backup or a main controller on the xbox because the flydigi apex is unmatched right now but the only reason to even use the gamesir is because I wouldn't need an adapter.
other than the mechanical buttons, i dont see why this is so expensive compared to the g7 se they have? the value of the g7 se is hard to beat and they are basically the same controller in features
Ha, your wish about the grips has just been granted with the G7 HE. Its grips are silicone. Personally, I don't like such grips, so I think I will go with the Kaleid.
I bought t4 kaleid and headphone jack is not working on x input when i switch to ps4 input mod headphone jack works what is the problem can you help my? Am i missing drivers or what?
Just bought a g7 se couldn’t ask for more decent price good for shooters was interested in the cosmetic look of the kalid but turnd out the g7 had much better in the input speed and if you are lucky and have low ping man you cankill
Im looking for a new PC controller, xinput preferably with xbox layout, but I need to know which one is the most wuiet controller, the Xbox series controllers have a very loud and clickity claky noise, I have been using my switch pro controller which is super quiet, but id prefer an actual xinput and xbox layout for PC
I'm asking myself the same question. My classic xbox controller got stick drift so I've been scouring the internet for my next gamepad. I think after watching tons of reviews and reading tons of reddit posts, I'm going to go with the "OG" T4 Kaleid. It just has all the features I want which sucks because this newer Kaleid should be an upgrade but lacks the nice face buttons of the old one.
I am very experienced in hall effect controllers, and my choice today, and for the last year, has been the T4 Kaleid. KK3 Max is at the same level, with the plus of having 4 rear buttons, but for some reason my daily driver is the T4 Kaleid. My Apex 4 is on the way, so I cannot comment on it yet.
thank you for wonderful videos, I play dragon's crown and other beat'em up games, sometimes street fighter, diablo4 like games, should I choose t4 cyclone pro or direwolf2 ? I like the Dpad of direwolf2 but the ciruclarity test is better on T4/g7 se?thank you
dunno but it seems the price went 20€ up with this "upgrade version.".. it's 65€ now for Kaleid and no more T4 Kaleid in store which was 40€ when I check couple months back. sure 60€ is cheap for a these specs, but it was around 40€ when I checked it out couple months back. I regret so much not buying the T4 Kaleid then.
I genuinely do not understand Gamesir's business strategy with all these too-similar controllers. The Flux has no reason to exist other than its nicer cosmetics. They're still great pads but why split features across so many skus? Why even bother offering membrane switches at all?
anyone know of the optimal app/ingame settings for max aim assist in halo would be? Stock settings seem like I basically don't get aim assist anymore in the game with the kaleid/g7se
@@GamerHeavenOfficial 😂i just thoughht nobdy seemed to make the connection between the name and and khaleidoscope. because everbody seemed to struggel with the pronunciation
I have 3 T4 Kaleids and 1 G7 SE and several other from Gulikit KK3 Max and FlyDigi Vader 3 Pro,, also 8Bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth 1 gen, Kalied is better, my main one
Kevin, the T4 Kaleid has different shortcuts to enable PC (Xinput), PS4 (I have not managed to make this mode work without Mayflash dongle, but with dongle it works on PS3 and PS4, 1000Mhz works bad, you have to engage low Hz mode) , and Switch mode (I don't have a Switch), also to recalibrate (I have to calibrate like 4 times to refine it, but I manage to put it in mint condition after like 3 months of daily use, I have done this like 3 times, more than 1 year in total, so it works very well), macros, among other things.
Also, I will look how to share with you my mods. I bet you will find them at least interesting. (I play Apex on PC, so they are geared to fast paced action). That is why I have 3 Kaleids.
@@Grandmaster-Kush The T4 Kaleids are good. But i have to say I have never had any controller broken on me, not a single button, of any brand (including Sony or MS, of course I had countless controllers becoming useless due to capacitive carbon disk degradation on the sticks). But yes, the Kaleids are good quality. BTW I did not like 8Bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth (I mean the 1st Gen - released like 1 year ago-, not the one released like 1 month ago) for FPS, I could not aim well for some reason. Gulikit KK3 Max is quite good as well. Soon I will receive Flydigi Apex 4 and also will be modding my Dualsense with hall effect modules, the version 5 of the orange modules (the magnet is shaped not rectangular like in ver 3 and former, but somehow like a arc, or a part of a donut).
I have and am currently using the original T4K and I'm running it overclocked at 1000Hz polling rate directly through the T4 software. I even used the same software you are using to check it was actually overclocked and it is. Does this mean the new Kaleid is polling rate locked at 250Hz or can it also go up to 1000Hz through the app like the previous T4K can?
I’ve only seen the overclocking option on the game sir Nexus application but I’ve never seen it in the T4 app, maybe I’m missing a tab or setting. I’ll get back to you on that.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Definitely look into it. My T4k is 1000hz, and I've heard there's away to get slightly more than 1000hz on the Xbox Kaleid. I was looking forward to seeing you test the polling rate of the Xbox Kaleid at 1000hz.
great video but the only thing I would suggest is you should of compared it more to the g7 and g7se since it's an xbox controller, most xbox gamers never used or cared about the T4
After watching dozens of reviews here on GamerHeaven and from other reputable reviewers like vCuda, VK, etc. ranging from entry level to high end products. I've come to the conclusion that this might be the best "base" controller you can buy for the money. Sure, it doesn't have trigger stops, 4 back buttons, and a few other nice to haves, but what it does do is get all of the basics right. It's got well calibrated hall effect sticks, decent ABXY micro switches, good hall effect triggers, good back button positioning and a comfortable design. The only slight downfall is it's DPAD, however in my use case it's only a minor annoyance as I only use the DPAD for navigating menus and using items in games, would've preferred an 8 point rolling similar to the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra but it's passable. As far as sticks, face buttons, and triggers go it seems to hit the nail on the head which not many controllers do at this price category and even some above. Yes, it's not aimed at people looking for a full spec pro controller but I'd say it's a great replacement for a standard pad if you're concerned with longevity and performance and a good step into the 'pro' controller realm for people who don't wanna dive into premium tier controllers.
Also, for anyone wants to know, you CAN overclock the Kaleid and Kalied flux. But i had issues updating the software. The solution was to manually force an update in the T4 Software, by holding the xbox and start menu button when plugging it in, then I had to update it in the nexus software. That fixed my issue and i can finally use the 1000hz, and its on its way to replace my g7se
Hey guys can anyone help me? I’ve been wanting to buy a controller that has Hall effect sticks and flat face buttons that also has quiet triggers and bumpers can anyone recommend me some?
Sticking with my g7se. Not a fan of the dark color scheme. I don't like finger prints. My dream game sir controller for xbox would be. hal effect sticks, tactile buttons, grips from g7, clear plastic from T4, I'm fine with 2 rear buttons, don't need wireless as I play on a monitor, but would love physical trigger stops. Currently I hot glue the ends of zip ties on my triggers to make a trigger stop.
There's instructions on Gamesir's Support -> Tutorial section on how to increase the Kaleid polling rate to 1000hz, it has to be done on a PC I believe. My Kaleid is getting here tomorrow hopefully it works!
@@kazuto5061 I wasn't able to figure out how to get it to work and every time I try to do the button combo I'm supposed to do before the firmware update makes it so I have to restart my PC to try to get it to detect my controller as it says a USB device malfunctioned. I think I'm just gonna give up and use it as is
@@goodcat3437 damn I rly want that 1000 hz, I hate the g7 se because of the plate moves a lot when u play, if somehow you could do it please let me know , thank you
I'd like to leave some questions about upgrades to the new Kaleid. Weather the 3.5mm headphone jack works with X-input and if the face buttons(ABXY) are less wobley than the T4k
Gamepad tester is only showing 0.0002 on the sticks because of the software deadzone. If you retest it after changing the deadzone in gamesir Nexus you can see the actual values. Found this out with my G7.
Do we know if this one will have the ability to OC at some point, or are we stuck with yet another Gamesir controller that has 75% of the features we want, but not all?
@@xKillZone99 thanks for the response! how do you like the new Kaleid so far? I did so much research and decided to get the T4 Kaleid and then I realized they released this new black one. Should I just order this new one and return the old one? (Old one is still in shipping)
@brody8857 I like it alot, I have the g7 and g7se, I use the kaleid for xbox gaming so I've never used the T4 but they're probably identical I would imagine
@@xKillZone99 I only game on pc. But yeah I’ve watched a few reviews and this new kaleid seems like an upgrade over the older t4 even tho they are quite similar. I’m just going to order the new one and test both out to see which one I like better.
I had the same issue with the flux... i tried everything gamesir said giving them licenses in my pc etc etc but game nexus didnt recognised the flux even i tried with a 2nd flux but the result was the same, finally i had to refund both because i was interested in the 1000hz ft
My gripe with the T4K is more of a design flaw. Because of the design of the controller when I use it my finger constantly hits LB/RB unintentionally. I don't have this issue with any other controller. If it wasn't an issue it'd be a cool controller. There needs to be better spacing between the triggers and the bumpers or give the controller a bit more width at the top. It's far to easy to accidentally acuate the LB/RB buttons.
They should've given it another name to save on confusion. Just call it the gamesir another lateral move. All we want is the gamesir stealth pro ultra, minus the screen.
Correction: the T4K (original) also has Hall effect sticks, the difference is that this is for Xbox and not switch.
The original T4K review is linked in the description if you want to check it out. Any comments just saying the sticks are hall have been removed because the pinned comment addresses it.
Are you gonna review a new 8bitdo Xbox controllers and upcoming 3-Mode Ultimate?
@@idogaming3532 gamesir really makes some weird choices sometimes. Another one is to call the premium xbox kaleid, just "kaleid". At least they added Flux to the other cheaper model.
so if you want a switch version your out of luck, thats kinda trash tbh but they did need and xbox version for sure. now i actually have a controller to recommend to people.
@@Dami19XX how is that a weird decision, 90% of people who buy this controller play on pc.
-The old Kaleid had hall effect sticks.
-The Kaleid flux does not have static lights. It’s the same as the other versions and can be changed in the app.
-Kaleid is pronounced like kaleidoscopic. Referring to the lights. it’s literally pronounced wrong in every video I see lol.
Bought a Kaleid for Xbox a week ago. Love it.
Miles better than the Elite 2 I was previously using.
Just a shame it has no trigger stops
what about dpad in fighting games
@@stevensv4864 I don’t do fighting games sorry mate. If it helps at all it’s very responsive for up, down, left, right for what I use it for which is BF1. It controls gadgets etc in that game and it’s instant when I press.
The controller is even better now I have overclocked it to 500hz.
@@michaelcrimp8193 i haven seen reviews were say it its bad even worse for fighting vs normal dpad flux
Been waiting for this one... It's like they just refuse to include all their features in one model so they can fill out their line SMH. Mechanical switches, hall effect sticks, rubber grips, overclocking capability, trigger / rear buttons locks. Charge an extra $30 and take our $, wireless worth some extra $.
Agree completely. I'd much rather have the rubber back and build quality of the G7 with the hall effect sticks of the other ones.
Same here. I've been biding my time as I really don't need a controller, got a gulikit king Kong 2 pro which is serving me well for how rarely I use controllers to play games anyway, but I really really want just one end-game controller that's all the gamesir features combined into one.
I could easily buy the kaleid models now and just use the gulikit for wireless but yea.
I wonder if it is on the brands or more on Microsoft side not allowing every company to make wireless. There are literally wireless controllers for every other platform, it doesn't make sense for GameSir to just not make one for xbox too
@@jm_sc they do make wireless controllers?
I think the only reason they don't make some of the controllers like kaleid wireless just because they're playing the long game
Releasing better and more featured controllers every half a year or so
@@Verchiel_ Kalei doesn't have a wireless version, but their other models do, same with 8bitdo. They don't make wireless because it would be significantly cheaper than the Elite 2, Microsoft don't like that
FINALLY I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDDDD
2 more paddles and trigger stops and it would be perfect. the smoked face plate looks sooo good with the rest of the black imo
Still no 4 button gamesir controller. Sad days...
True. Still they're big so it gives lots of room to hold however you want. On others like the flyDigi Apex 4 I have to shoot with R2 and L2 despite preferring L1R1
The T4 Pro has 4 rear buttons, kinda, I hope they aren't using that case because they are designing a better one.
@@AndresAlvarez-dq2ft Yeah T4 pro looks good, is there big difference between kaleid flux and t4 pro?
Man you reviewed all of these gamesir controllers if you have to classify them which one is the best in all aspects?
For wired and for wireless i want to use it on my gaming rig especially on fifa and aaa titles or story modes that has less shooting in the game cuz nothing approach to my gaming mice logitech g 502 hero form any controller in terms of shooting
If gamesir gives us a pro wirelles version of this with rubber grips, a trigger stop system that makes them clicky and perhaps a 2k pollong rage it would be an INSTANT blu for me.
Also, in the review i think its not clear that you actualli can change the input mode of your t4k by pressing the home bottom + a, b, x or y. You can change to xinput, ds4, switch or generic controller, and the light in the home button changes accordingly.
Sorry this is late, happy memorial day, thank you for your service captain. And I'm looking forward to the mobapad huben video. Not demanding, just saying.
My pleasure Minty. I would love to review that MOBA
I unfortunately got a defective unit /: couldn’t calibrate them due to the triggers not being able to be fully actuated to the “255” on the nexus app, had actual stick drift out the box (had to up the Deadzones to 20), and couldn’t change the polling rate.. kinda bummed but ordered another one
GameSir was really kind and tried to help best they could through emails but unfortunately couldn’t fix the issue.
Anyways, great video Kevin! 🖤
I’m sorry to hear that Cody. Thank you.
Your videos helped me over clock my gamesir g7se to 1000hz, thank you so much!! Do you happen to know how to get it back down to 500hz so that maybe I have a chance to use the headphone jack?
Or is the over clock irreversible
If you were picking from the G7se and the kalied, which one would you pick?
t4k now, the g7 SE is better for shooting game in my options
I have the older t4 kaleid. I liked it a lot but stopped using it bc I missed the short trigger pull of my elite series 2 with the actual trigger stops vs the digital ones on the kalied. If they just introduced that 1 feature I would probably buy the new version and leave my elite series 2 behind.
Thank you for sharing Rusty. That elite 2 does spoil us..when they aren’t broken 😉
Very informative; however, I'm still conflicted between this, the G7 (SE) and 8bitdo controllers.
Will you be reviewing the new 8bitdo Ultimate C controller anytime soon?
G7se
I did recently seitch back to the T4 from the Vader 3 pro due to preferring the switches if the face button. But also been using the G7 on mobile and now prefer those membrane switches.
T4 have turbo function?
oh my god i love you for this review i was wondering if the new kaleid had anti friction rings but in your opinion whats better the g7se or the new kaleid
In the Philippines me have the K1 Kalied which is the non gold one. I have it and I love it.
hey bro i wonder something i have the kaleid and g7 se
kaleid arrive just a few days ago, after i try it have a bad point justonly one and its microswitch dpad for fighting games, it is really hard to do combos, with g7 se is so easy.. but let me tell you what is good bc is a lot..
1000hz native windows 10
500 hz with audio
vibration feels much more stronger and deep even in level 3 it is better than the g7 se in level 4..
RGB for more fps :v
i think im gonna sell this kaleid and buy the flux one bc i think is just the same but with membrane, doesnt it?
from what I know, this model is/was also known as the K1 Kaleid (idk why they omitted the K1 from the name because it really helps differentiate itself from the T4 controllers)
The fact that it's made for Xbox means it's gonna have full compatibility with all pc games. Without having to scour the internet for drivers I mean.
I would only use this as a backup or a main controller on the xbox because the flydigi apex is unmatched right now but the only reason to even use the gamesir is because I wouldn't need an adapter.
How do you get the apex 4 to work on Xbox? Adapter like wingman or mayflash magic x?
Don't see me upgrading my awesome G7.
had the t4k for a while, still don't know how to get the earphone jack to work.
We need the new Razor Wolverine V3 reviewed, please.
Does this new updated Kaleid still have the same turbo function you demonstrated in your t4k review? Please if anyone knows the answer lmk.
Should I get g7 se or kaleid for Fortnite?
other than the mechanical buttons, i dont see why this is so expensive compared to the g7 se they have? the value of the g7 se is hard to beat and they are basically the same controller in features
Does anyone know if you can make it so that when you have hair triggers turned on it doesn’t activate the rgb when pressed? Thanks in advance
Hoy do you connect it to the switch? Mine is not recognized
Ha, your wish about the grips has just been granted with the G7 HE. Its grips are silicone.
Personally, I don't like such grips, so I think I will go with the Kaleid.
I bought t4 kaleid and headphone jack is not working on x input when i switch to ps4 input mod headphone jack works what is the problem can you help my? Am i missing drivers or what?
Same happens with me just use it on ps4 input
Just bought a g7 se couldn’t ask for more decent price good for shooters was interested in the cosmetic look of the kalid but turnd out the g7 had much better in the input speed and if you are lucky and have low ping man you cankill
does this new model have a turbo?
A little hot glue and you just made the best trigger stops
Im looking for a new PC controller, xinput preferably with xbox layout, but I need to know which one is the most wuiet controller, the Xbox series controllers have a very loud and clickity claky noise, I have been using my switch pro controller which is super quiet, but id prefer an actual xinput and xbox layout for PC
Wich one is the absolute best out of it all for PC ? There are so many options from gamesir, flydigi, 8bitdo, etc... What is the best controller ???
I'm asking myself the same question. My classic xbox controller got stick drift so I've been scouring the internet for my next gamepad. I think after watching tons of reviews and reading tons of reddit posts, I'm going to go with the "OG" T4 Kaleid. It just has all the features I want which sucks because this newer Kaleid should be an upgrade but lacks the nice face buttons of the old one.
I am very experienced in hall effect controllers, and my choice today, and for the last year, has been the T4 Kaleid. KK3 Max is at the same level, with the plus of having 4 rear buttons, but for some reason my daily driver is the T4 Kaleid. My Apex 4 is on the way, so I cannot comment on it yet.
@@blorbb5398 I ordered the new games Kaleid with the smoked out face and it is awesome I love this controlller
I hope the d pad is clicky and nice
thank you for wonderful videos, I play dragon's crown and other beat'em up games, sometimes street fighter, diablo4 like games, should I choose t4 cyclone pro or direwolf2 ? I like the Dpad of direwolf2 but the ciruclarity test is better on T4/g7 se?thank you
Don’t worry to much about the circularity test
@@GamerHeavenOfficial thank you!!
Is it better than the gamesir se? I had to return that controller because of the analog sticks. Felt off
Off in which way? The sticks on the g7 lineup are shorter than most other sticks. In the original kaleid they were a but higher for example.
No mention of the missing six axis gyro from the T4?
my controller keeps disconnecting and i’m not sure what’s causing it
Are you sure you’ve tested sticks without default software locked deadzones?
23:27 does the T4 Kaleid work on Ps4-Ps5 with the adapter?
It has a ps mode it should work without adapter
dunno but it seems the price went 20€ up with this "upgrade version.".. it's 65€ now for Kaleid and no more T4 Kaleid in store which was 40€ when I check couple months back.
sure 60€ is cheap for a these specs, but it was around 40€ when I checked it out couple months back. I regret so much not buying the T4 Kaleid then.
Thoughts on the epindon hall effect modules for the victrix?
This new kaleid or g7se for pc ?
these are my only two options from gamesir
thanks.
just bought t4 kaleid the OG one and it keeps on disconnecting from the t4k app can someone help? did the home plus icon button but still the same
I followed your buy guide and bought a gamesir but never arrived, still waiting for a refund 3 months after :)
YO, doesn't the app allow you to change it to 1000 hz?!?!
I just wish I could get my T4 to work on Xbox. I tried using a Brook adapter and it handles pretty much anything I use but the T4 wouldnt comply.
Wouldn’t comply. I like the way you talk
Will these support 1000Hz in a future update, similarly to the T4?
Yep, they do as of now. Got 1000hz working on my Kaleid
I genuinely do not understand Gamesir's business strategy with all these too-similar controllers. The Flux has no reason to exist other than its nicer cosmetics. They're still great pads but why split features across so many skus? Why even bother offering membrane switches at all?
anyone know of the optimal app/ingame settings for max aim assist in halo would be? Stock settings seem like I basically don't get aim assist anymore in the game with the kaleid/g7se
Million controllers still no trigger stops. Like why.
Kontrolfreek link doesn't work
daca nu greșesc mai este o diferență neanunțată și anume: Kaleid xbox are 4 motoare vibratoare față de 2 la t4 Kaleid
do you still think the hex advanced is still worth it?
yes
why do people pronounce the name wrong? did no one hear of a khaleidoschope? because that is what the name is based on
I prefer to say it like DJ Kaleid, I personally get the most from it, the other way makes me feel like tight assed twerp
@@GamerHeavenOfficial 😂i just thoughht nobdy seemed to make the connection between the name and and khaleidoscope. because everbody seemed to struggel with the pronunciation
I have 3 T4 Kaleids and 1 G7 SE and several other from Gulikit KK3 Max and FlyDigi Vader 3 Pro,, also 8Bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth 1 gen, Kalied is better, my main one
That’s a very respectable collection of reliable trollers
Kevin, the T4 Kaleid has different shortcuts to enable PC (Xinput), PS4 (I have not managed to make this mode work without Mayflash dongle, but with dongle it works on PS3 and PS4, 1000Mhz works bad, you have to engage low Hz mode) , and Switch mode (I don't have a Switch), also to recalibrate (I have to calibrate like 4 times to refine it, but I manage to put it in mint condition after like 3 months of daily use, I have done this like 3 times, more than 1 year in total, so it works very well), macros, among other things.
Also, I will look how to share with you my mods. I bet you will find them at least interesting. (I play Apex on PC, so they are geared to fast paced action). That is why I have 3 Kaleids.
How's the durability, my 2 8bitdos RB button broke after less then 6 months on each controller
@@Grandmaster-Kush The T4 Kaleids are good. But i have to say I have never had any controller broken on me, not a single button, of any brand (including Sony or MS, of course I had countless controllers becoming useless due to capacitive carbon disk degradation on the sticks). But yes, the Kaleids are good quality. BTW I did not like 8Bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth (I mean the 1st Gen - released like 1 year ago-, not the one released like 1 month ago) for FPS, I could not aim well for some reason. Gulikit KK3 Max is quite good as well. Soon I will receive Flydigi Apex 4 and also will be modding my Dualsense with hall effect modules, the version 5 of the orange modules (the magnet is shaped not rectangular like in ver 3 and former, but somehow like a arc, or a part of a donut).
I have and am currently using the original T4K and I'm running it overclocked at 1000Hz polling rate directly through the T4 software. I even used the same software you are using to check it was actually overclocked and it is. Does this mean the new Kaleid is polling rate locked at 250Hz or can it also go up to 1000Hz through the app like the previous T4K can?
I’ve only seen the overclocking option on the game sir Nexus application but I’ve never seen it in the T4 app, maybe I’m missing a tab or setting. I’ll get back to you on that.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Definitely look into it. My T4k is 1000hz, and I've heard there's away to get slightly more than 1000hz on the Xbox Kaleid. I was looking forward to seeing you test the polling rate of the Xbox Kaleid at 1000hz.
Kontrol freak from xbox support ? Or need ps version ?
It fits PlayStation sized KontrolFreeks. I bought this controller a week ago and that’s what I had to do
Does anyone know how close the size is to a xbox one controller?
They look and feel identical in size but I haven’t seen the official dimensions so they maybe be a few mm different
Next up:Asus rog tessen vs the gamesir PlayStation edition mobile controller
Caled is crazy lol
250hz polling on a wired controller is number one bullshit
Can I get one of ur ps4 controllers bc my ps4 controller isn’t working 😅
great video but the only thing I would suggest is you should of compared it more to the g7 and g7se since it's an xbox controller, most xbox gamers never used or cared about the T4
Good point
How does this compare to the G7 SE?
What's your recommendation for xbox, g7, g7 se or kaleid? Im just confused with their complete lineup.
G7 SE imo
After watching dozens of reviews here on GamerHeaven and from other reputable reviewers like vCuda, VK, etc. ranging from entry level to high end products.
I've come to the conclusion that this might be the best "base" controller you can buy for the money. Sure, it doesn't have trigger stops, 4 back buttons, and a few other nice to haves, but what it does do is get all of the basics right. It's got well calibrated hall effect sticks, decent ABXY micro switches, good hall effect triggers, good back button positioning and a comfortable design. The only slight downfall is it's DPAD, however in my use case it's only a minor annoyance as I only use the DPAD for navigating menus and using items in games, would've preferred an 8 point rolling similar to the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra but it's passable. As far as sticks, face buttons, and triggers go it seems to hit the nail on the head which not many controllers do at this price category and even some above. Yes, it's not aimed at people looking for a full spec pro controller but I'd say it's a great replacement for a standard pad if you're concerned with longevity and performance and a good step into the 'pro' controller realm for people who don't wanna dive into premium tier controllers.
Copy paste controller with no 1000hz. They need to make wireless controller 🙄
There is 1000hz on these new Kaleids
@@danielhenry4365 u can't use 1000hz on Xbox no more
@@heyolorennsI’m still using 1000hz on Xbox
You can’t set it to 1000hz ON the Xbox App but I was under the impression it could be enabled through the PC application and saved to the board?
@@Fev3RDreamyou can still enable it on the xbox app
Also, for anyone wants to know, you CAN overclock the Kaleid and Kalied flux. But i had issues updating the software. The solution was to manually force an update in the T4 Software, by holding the xbox and start menu button when plugging it in, then I had to update it in the nexus software. That fixed my issue and i can finally use the 1000hz, and its on its way to replace my g7se
Hey guys can anyone help me? I’ve been wanting to buy a controller that has Hall effect sticks and flat face buttons that also has quiet triggers and bumpers can anyone recommend me some?
Sticking with my g7se. Not a fan of the dark color scheme. I don't like finger prints. My dream game sir controller for xbox would be. hal effect sticks, tactile buttons, grips from g7, clear plastic from T4, I'm fine with 2 rear buttons, don't need wireless as I play on a monitor, but would love physical trigger stops. Currently I hot glue the ends of zip ties on my triggers to make a trigger stop.
There's instructions on Gamesir's Support -> Tutorial section on how to increase the Kaleid polling rate to 1000hz, it has to be done on a PC I believe. My Kaleid is getting here tomorrow hopefully it works!
Let us know
Did it work?
@@kazuto5061 I wasn't able to figure out how to get it to work and every time I try to do the button combo I'm supposed to do before the firmware update makes it so I have to restart my PC to try to get it to detect my controller as it says a USB device malfunctioned. I think I'm just gonna give up and use it as is
@@goodcat3437 damn I rly want that 1000 hz, I hate the g7 se because of the plate moves a lot when u play, if somehow you could do it please let me know , thank you
@@goodcat3437 I just ordered one today. Don't give up. I can't go back from 1000hz. I use the G7SE.....
I'd like to leave some questions about upgrades to the new Kaleid. Weather the 3.5mm headphone jack works with X-input and if the face buttons(ABXY) are less wobley than the T4k
It seems like companies are really mudding up the difference between haptics and rumble.
Should i get the kaleid or the g7 se ? Please let me know
I like the T4 Kaleid over the G7 SE. So I would say buy the new Kaleid.
Gamepad tester is only showing 0.0002 on the sticks because of the software deadzone. If you retest it after changing the deadzone in gamesir Nexus you can see the actual values. Found this out with my G7.
Interesting.
Do we know if this one will have the ability to OC at some point, or are we stuck with yet another Gamesir controller that has 75% of the features we want, but not all?
Pretty sure gamesir has a tutorial on their website. It's a little hard to find though
kaleid xbox vs g7 se?
I have the T4kaleid I bought over a year ago, was thinking of grabbing the new kaleid thoughts?
the dpad on the new xbox kaleid is arguably the best controller D-pad I've used especially with emulation and fighting games so far
How does it feel? Is it like a clicky one? The Xbox series controllers have a hard clicky one but I assume it’s not mechanical.
@brody8857 it's mechanical so the dpad is clicky and very responsive
@@xKillZone99 thanks for the response! how do you like the new Kaleid so far? I did so much research and decided to get the T4 Kaleid and then I realized they released this new black one. Should I just order this new one and return the old one? (Old one is still in shipping)
@brody8857 I like it alot, I have the g7 and g7se, I use the kaleid for xbox gaming so I've never used the T4 but they're probably identical I would imagine
@@xKillZone99 I only game on pc. But yeah I’ve watched a few reviews and this new kaleid seems like an upgrade over the older t4 even tho they are quite similar. I’m just going to order the new one and test both out to see which one I like better.
Does only the old kaleid t4k have the gyroscope? Do the newer kaleids have a gyroscope too?
been waiting for this one, thanks for the comprehensive review(s)
My pleasure!
Why keep the khalid name? So stupid and needlessly confusing without any clear difference. Silly people who make these decisions
Awe i don't know why they cant have all the features they have on their controllers with 4 rear buttons.I will pay double just to have it all.
Huh, what about GYRO? The original had them..
I had the same issue with the flux... i tried everything gamesir said giving them licenses in my pc etc etc but game nexus didnt recognised the flux even i tried with a 2nd flux but the result was the same, finally i had to refund both because i was interested in the 1000hz ft
Kontrol freek precision rings do not fit properly on the kaleid controllers. There is no issue with the g7 se. It is really annoying
Loving the 1000hz on T4k, never going back.
this one does 1000hz also
I just want a wireless controller like this for Xbox why is it so hard
My gripe with the T4K is more of a design flaw. Because of the design of the controller when I use it my finger constantly hits LB/RB unintentionally. I don't have this issue with any other controller. If it wasn't an issue it'd be a cool controller. There needs to be better spacing between the triggers and the bumpers or give the controller a bit more width at the top. It's far to easy to accidentally acuate the LB/RB buttons.
Thanks for sharing this
please review the T7¡¡¡¡
They should've given it another name to save on confusion. Just call it the gamesir another lateral move. All we want is the gamesir stealth pro ultra, minus the screen.
Correct 👍🏼
So which is better the new kaleid or the og
GAMESIR KALEID!
Can the new Kaleid not get 1000 Hz?
after more time with them, would you say get the "xbox" kaleid, or the T4 for the gyro?
bought my T4 Kaleid 6 months ago and it has survived nearly 1,200 hours of FPS abuse