Thank you for posting, Had to watch this video before painting the kitchen. Puchased 2.0 and 1.5 and saved time experimenting as they will install counter top tomorrow. Experience is the best teacher. Thank you. Garry from California.
appreciate this, I just ordered a gun with three needle jet sizes to help me spray clear acrylic enamel and was trying to find some demonstrations of what to expect.
Another solid review , I have never really used anything lower then a 1.3 so Helps me see that if I am gunna use a mini gun 1.0 or lower is best. Awesome man thanks and Cheers 🍻 from Pete in the USA 🇺🇸
Hi Pete, that was my quandary when i was looking at mini guns, what size tip to go for, there didn't seem to be much on how big the fan was, appreciate your thoughts, cheers 🍻
@@peteshobbies5383 Ya I started liking reviews on ANI and have 2 F160 one for primer and other for base or clear and wanted a mini and your reviews have helped. I was gunna just get a 1.0 and buy a 1.2 tip but now may just buy a 1.0 and a .5 tip for very small projects , that or 0.8 and 1.2? We’ll see, but if you have any takes that would be awesome. Thanks again and keep up gret videosZ
@@peteshelby21 , The 0.5 is quite limiting in what it will do, but obviously for really intricate things it's ideal, i would say a 1.2 and 0.8 would be a great combination, would cover everything, it amazing how versatile a 1.2 mini gun is, really handy for most things and the size or lack of size more to the point is brilliant for small intricate work. I've only recently got the F160, it 1.9, i have been really impressed with it, seams a step up from the Devilbiss FLG5 or SBK I think it's called in the US ?, I have only used it for primer but may get a 1.3 tip set and try it with clear and base, as i say, very impressed 👍
Hey , Pete. been 2 years from our last conversation. Just now finally gunna order the R160 after I was already impressed with the F-160. I asked ANI about HPS compared to HVLP. Since here in the USA we mainly use HVLP and LVLP. Seeing if you can confirm. They say the HPS is similar to LVLP? Is that accurate that you know? Thanks, Cheers
Interesting vid Pete, it's surprising how much the different tip sizes effect the size of the fan. I do have the ANI R150 with the 1.2 it was my second gun after getting fed up with the cheap amazon one I got to get me started with spraying. After I got the SRI the R150 didn't get used as I liked the SRI so much I just kept to that brand apart from trying the AZ4 which I didn't get on with.
They are a great vfm mini gun, they don't have the finesse of the Sri or many others to be fair, they rely on pressure rather than design, still, for me the best feeling min in my hands and a great physical size, I've been having a clear out of late, to make way for new stuff so I've only kept the R150 in 1.2, the rest have gone, I've got the R160 in 1.2 as well which I'll also keep👍
Although I liked the R150 I didn't think it was giving me as good a finish as the SRI does which again was just down to my lack of experience at the time. I didn't know that the R150 needed higher air pressure to get the same result that you would when using the SRI at 2bar but I do agree that the R150 is a nice gun to use and sits nice in the hand as like you I have shovel hands 😁🤭 EDIT: oh you are selling off some of your guns Pete, do I hear the unboxing of a DV1S in the near future 🤔😂
Hi, Where was it leaking from? , they do a service kit that normally contains everything needed, yes, the Devilbiss Sri is a really good gun, my personal favourite 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 I had the same problem. Leaking air around the front needle seal (in front of the trigger). I got a service kit but somehow made it worse (as soon as the air line is connected air blows out that seal. It shouldn't happen at all with the trigger not pulled. As these don't have a separate air valve and it varied with the air control valve level I have NFI what is happening. I moved onto the r160 but would like to fix the r150 as it has the 1.2mm tip.
@@peteshobbies5383 Went through it 6 times, problem is that there shouldn't be air pressure there with the trigger not pulled, and the trigger brass tube that goes in at the back only goes in one way and has no seals besides the one at the end in front of the needle spring. Nothing was put in wrong, but now it's screwed again and I could never fix the minor leak problem. I used to fix a/c, so I should be able to replace some seals. Maybe there's a crack somewhere, that's all I can think of.
I just ordered this done with the 1.2 and I've wondered just how big of a fan I would hit I'll be mostly doing rims and small tight projects with it although the smaller gunnz quite Misty when doing other things as well I really like the versatility
Hi Pete.Thanks for all the testing.If you had neither of these guns 150/160.Which would you buy?I have a good 1.3,was looking for something to fill the gap between airbrush and bigger gun.Thanks
thank you for the video, it is exactly what was i looking for. but i need one more info, can u recommend tip size for primer and for base and for clear or i can just pick one tip based on size of object i want to paint (for example bicycle frame) ?
Hi Vedran, it's a combination of the two really, you need a big tip for primer normally particularly if it's high build as it's thicker, if for example you are spraying a cycle frame you would ideally need a smaller tip for base and clear than you would for primer but both would ideally be smaller than you would use for a car panel, this is because ideally you want the fan wide open for a better pattern but don't want a lot of overspray, hope that helps
Thank you for sharing Pete. I like your videos very much! May I know if I use 1.2mm nozzle and turn the fan pattern down, can I get the same result as 0.5mm nozzle?
Hi Ku, you can but i always find with a fan wound in the atomisation isn't as good so even though the pattern looks the same size it's not as even when your spraying, cheers 👍
Cheers, the Sata is according to Sata a 1.2 and when i compared a ANI R150 with the Sata 4400 both in 1.2 the Sata had an approximately 30% bigger pattern, in fact i would guess the Sata gives a similar size to the Tekna/Devilbiss Gti Pro Lite although i haven't tried them next to each other
Can I shoot with a compressor that is rated 6.1 cfm @ 40psi with this gun? Also, for metallic BC and CC only, is the 1.0 or 1.2 the right choice? Thanks for the help!!
Hi, it would depend on the tank size assuming it has a tank and how much spraying you have to do, 40psi is fine as you will only need 25 to 29 psi at most, 6.1 cfm is right on the limit and is probably more or less what the gun uses, so i would say it should be ok but only for smaller parts, not ideal though, if i was only going to have one tip it would be 1.2, this will cover basecoat and MS/HS clears
Thanks for the feedback. Its a 29 gallon tank (110L) and I only want to do smaller pieces. Maybe a little bigger than a motorcycle helmet. I bought the compressor because someone else told me I could do that sized job with a 20 gallon compressor. I never checked for myself though. So I bought the compressor 1st and then realized the guns I was looking at were all going to need a much more robust air supply. I was hoping these mini guns would work though because I don't need a full-sized gun in the first place. I did this all backwards and now I'm trying to find a way to still get some use out of the compressor and paint some small fiberglass parts.
@@alienxyt, A 29 gallon tank will be fine, you can obviously let the tank fill before starting and you will find the tank will last you around 60 seconds of continuous spraying before the pump would start, that's loads of spraying for small parts, helmets, etc, indeed it will allow you to do plenty of larger parts
@@alienxyt , yes, i was going to do a video on how long they last per cycle so will sort one out, i think the SRI pro lite uses the least with a te5 cap but i haven't tested it yet, will do soon
Hi , the R150 and R160 spray the same but they are quite different to each other, virtually no parts are interchangeable, i personally like the R150 better because the air cap sealing is very simple and free of gaskets compared to the R160
@@peteshobbies5383 Ok I will choose R150 but R150 has 2 versions which are R150T black and R150Q silver I don't know how it's different. and what is better
@@1..883 They are the same apart from colour, the black version is the older one, they changes to polished aluminium body's and added the Q, the R160 has replaced the R150 but some stock of the R150 still remain. They do a HVLP cap and a HPS cap, i like the HPS cap, cheers 👍
Im doing 1k clear on a bike fairing with the R150, I got some bad runs, the worst has put stripes in the basecoat so I will need to sand that and put more base. Any idea what Im doing wrong? I thinned the clear 1:0.75, using 0.8mm tip, 25psi, fan fully open, and fluid two turns out. If I reduce the fluid any further the fan gets too small. Heres a photo i.postimg.cc/brkTK3HT/IMG-20200912-203612.jpg
HI Mark, so you put 75ml of thinners to 100ml of clear? , I'm not sure what clear you are using but most 1k clears i know of aren't meant to be thinned, the data sheet for your clear may say different, if the clear is affecting the base coat it does sound like it's either over thinned, so the thinners are reacting with the base or it's on to heavy at the start, over thinned or to heavy would also explain runs, not sure what the temperature is where you are but if it's less than say 20c then get a heat gun on the fairing before you clear and in between coats, be careful though as obviously this stuff is flammable, plenty of ventilation needed, also heat the clear if possible so leave the tin in the sun for a hour or two before you use it
I didn't see the runs, but saw what looks like a lot of orange peel. I would guess that 1) it wasn't thinned enough, 2) It wasn't sprayed evenly enough- too wet in some areas and dry in others- runs vrs. peel. Some 1k lacquers in the past needed 150 percent reduction, not 75%. That shape does look tricky to spray!
oof. salt in the wound for me.. i bought the 0.5 model for putting backing on toy cars.. though i use about 40psi to spray the waterbased paint. maybe i should have got the 1.0...
Hi Valk, I would have thought the 0.5 would have done quite well for your intended use but i guess it depends on the size of the car. I have sold all my R150s apart from the 1.2 which i have in R150 and R160, I still rate them very highly particularly at there price point, i have guns at the 0.5 rang that preform much better but they are more than twice the price so aren't really comparable
@@peteshobbies5383for what i paid for it it does what i needed. spraying sealers and backer colours on 1/10 bodies. the .5 was mostly to try to save material as airbrush paints are kinda expensive but i think the 1.0 would have been a better choice to use less air pressure. water paints typically require more pressure but 40psi is kind of a lot. ill prob keep it around for sealers and white backers. maybe get an iwata trn2 or kustom th for colour change fills. having to clean out a pps adapter for airbrush is kinda wasteful hah.
i also have two sri pros... but i dont know if im the only one with this problem, but the nozzles seem cocked in their aircaps.. i was considering replacements until i looked up the cost of a nozzle set for it.. thus the ani r150 purchase.....
@@valkyuri1379 1/10 is a reasonable size so a 1.0 would have been better by the sounds of it, when you say cocked what are they doing?, haven't heard of many problems with them, only the rear sealing ring on the fluid tip but they are cheap and easy sourced
@@peteshobbies5383 if you look at the nozzle when the aircap is installed they are both noticeably off center. unfortunately i left them at work so cant share a pic. i wish i bought the bigger ani though cause when i got it from spraygunsdirect, only the .5 model was still shipping in the crappy black finish. id prob like it a lot more if i got the nice plastic coating...
Thank you for posting, Had to watch this video before painting the kitchen. Puchased 2.0 and 1.5 and saved time experimenting as they will install counter top tomorrow. Experience is the best teacher. Thank you. Garry from California.
Hi Gary, glad it's was some help, greetings to you in sunny California 👍
Yes...thanks for taking the time to make this video. Just bought a 150r and this was super helpful!
Good to know it's helping people to know what's best for there needs, the hole idea of it really
Me too bought this with a 1.0 tip, so just what I needed to give me an idea of what I need to do
appreciate this, I just ordered a gun with three needle jet sizes to help me spray clear acrylic enamel and was trying to find some demonstrations of what to expect.
Your most welcome buddy, glad it's been of some help, cheers 👍
Thanks. These are all sizes I was considering.
Thanks for watching 👍
Excellent thank you. Liked and sub’d. This helped me choose my tip for one of these. 😎👍
Hi John, Thank you. It's good to hear the video helped. Cheers 👍
Thank you !❤
Hi buddy, you're welcome 👍
Taught me so much bro thank you
Appreciate that, thanks buddy 👍
Another solid review , I have never really used anything lower then a 1.3 so Helps me see that if I am gunna use a mini gun 1.0 or lower is best. Awesome man thanks and Cheers 🍻 from Pete in the USA 🇺🇸
Hi Pete, that was my quandary when i was looking at mini guns, what size tip to go for, there didn't seem to be much on how big the fan was, appreciate your thoughts, cheers 🍻
@@peteshobbies5383
Ya I started liking reviews on ANI and have 2 F160 one for primer and other for base or clear and wanted a mini and your reviews have helped. I was gunna just get a 1.0 and buy a 1.2 tip but now may just buy a 1.0 and a .5 tip for very small projects , that or 0.8 and 1.2? We’ll see, but if you have any takes that would be awesome. Thanks again and keep up gret videosZ
@@peteshelby21 , The 0.5 is quite limiting in what it will do, but obviously for really intricate things it's ideal, i would say a 1.2 and 0.8 would be a great combination, would cover everything, it amazing how versatile a 1.2 mini gun is, really handy for most things and the size or lack of size more to the point is brilliant for small intricate work.
I've only recently got the F160, it 1.9, i have been really impressed with it, seams a step up from the Devilbiss FLG5 or SBK I think it's called in the US ?, I have only used it for primer but may get a 1.3 tip set and try it with clear and base, as i say, very impressed 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 agreed. Thanks Again Pete
Hey , Pete. been 2 years from our last conversation. Just now finally gunna order the R160 after I was already impressed with the F-160. I asked ANI about HPS compared to HVLP. Since here in the USA we mainly use HVLP and LVLP. Seeing if you can confirm. They say the HPS is similar to LVLP? Is that accurate that you know?
Thanks, Cheers
Interesting vid Pete, it's surprising how much the different tip sizes effect the size of the fan. I do have the ANI R150 with the 1.2 it was my second gun after getting fed up with the cheap amazon one I got to get me started with spraying.
After I got the SRI the R150 didn't get used as I liked the SRI so much I just kept to that brand apart from trying the AZ4 which I didn't get on with.
They are a great vfm mini gun, they don't have the finesse of the Sri or many others to be fair, they rely on pressure rather than design, still, for me the best feeling min in my hands and a great physical size, I've been having a clear out of late, to make way for new stuff so I've only kept the R150 in 1.2, the rest have gone, I've got the R160 in 1.2 as well which I'll also keep👍
Although I liked the R150 I didn't think it was giving me as good a finish as the SRI does which again was just down to my lack of experience at the time.
I didn't know that the R150 needed higher air pressure to get the same result that you would when using the SRI at 2bar but I do agree that the R150 is a nice gun to use and sits nice in the hand as like you I have shovel hands 😁🤭
EDIT: oh you are selling off some of your guns Pete, do I hear the unboxing of a DV1S in the near future 🤔😂
@@JohnWD40TC02 Yep, it's on the shopping list , when there's some stock about I'll get one
I had this gun before and it start leak the air so I got Devi Sri and this one way better quality ! Thank you for your job!!!
Hi, Where was it leaking from? , they do a service kit that normally contains everything needed, yes, the Devilbiss Sri is a really good gun, my personal favourite 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 I had the same problem. Leaking air around the front needle seal (in front of the trigger). I got a service kit but somehow made it worse (as soon as the air line is connected air blows out that seal. It shouldn't happen at all with the trigger not pulled. As these don't have a separate air valve and it varied with the air control valve level I have NFI what is happening. I moved onto the r160 but would like to fix the r150 as it has the 1.2mm tip.
Hi, it can only be a matter of the seals no being right in some way, either not seated correctly, trapped or similar
@@peteshobbies5383 Went through it 6 times, problem is that there shouldn't be air pressure there with the trigger not pulled, and the trigger brass tube that goes in at the back only goes in one way and has no seals besides the one at the end in front of the needle spring. Nothing was put in wrong, but now it's screwed again and I could never fix the minor leak problem. I used to fix a/c, so I should be able to replace some seals. Maybe there's a crack somewhere, that's all I can think of.
@@fo3 Did you use it for waterbourn paint?, maybe the inside of the casting has corroded, this would cause the air to bypass the slide
I just ordered this done with the 1.2 and I've wondered just how big of a fan I would hit I'll be mostly doing rims and small tight projects with it although the smaller gunnz quite Misty when doing other things as well I really like the versatility
They are really good guns, you won't be disappointed
@@peteshobbies5383 good to know if I really like it I will get 1 more
Hi Pete.Thanks for all the testing.If you had neither of these guns 150/160.Which would you buy?I have a good 1.3,was looking for something to fill the gap between airbrush and bigger gun.Thanks
Hi, I would definitely buy a R150, mainly because of the simplicity of the aircaps and the superior finish
thank you for the video, it is exactly what was i looking for.
but i need one more info, can u recommend tip size for primer and for base and for clear or i can just pick one tip based on size of object i want to paint (for example bicycle frame) ?
Hi Vedran, it's a combination of the two really, you need a big tip for primer normally particularly if it's high build as it's thicker, if for example you are spraying a cycle frame you would ideally need a smaller tip for base and clear than you would for primer but both would ideally be smaller than you would use for a car panel, this is because ideally you want the fan wide open for a better pattern but don't want a lot of overspray, hope that helps
Thank you for sharing Pete. I like your videos very much! May I know if I use 1.2mm nozzle and turn the fan pattern down, can I get the same result as 0.5mm nozzle?
Hi Ku, you can but i always find with a fan wound in the atomisation isn't as good so even though the pattern looks the same size it's not as even when your spraying, cheers 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 that’s a great explanation. 🙏🏻
Great videos mate! So I’m guessing if the fluid tip was the same as your sata the fan size would end up being the same
Cheers, the Sata is according to Sata a 1.2 and when i compared a ANI R150 with the Sata 4400 both in 1.2 the Sata had an approximately 30% bigger pattern, in fact i would guess the Sata gives a similar size to the Tekna/Devilbiss Gti Pro Lite although i haven't tried them next to each other
Pete's Hobbies & Interests Peter Jones , going by what gunman say is the sata is a little bit bigger than all other companies
@@Artie6937 , yes for sure
Thanks for another great video Pete. Just out of interest what kind of paint were you using in the video. Thanks Glyn.
Hi Glyn, that was just a neat basecoat in black, so it was thinned one to one with thinners which is what the manufacturer recommends
Pete's Hobbies & Interests Peter Jones was it a solvent base coat or a 2k one?
@@glynharding8109 , Hi Glyn, It's was a solvent basecoat so would dry matte which would require a clearcoat over the top
Pete's Hobbies & Interests Peter Jones, thanks Pete and sorry to bombard you with so many questions. I really appreciate your help. Thanks Glyn.
@@glynharding8109, no worries Glyn
Can I shoot with a compressor that is rated 6.1 cfm @ 40psi with this gun? Also, for metallic BC and CC only, is the 1.0 or 1.2 the right choice? Thanks for the help!!
Hi, it would depend on the tank size assuming it has a tank and how much spraying you have to do, 40psi is fine as you will only need 25 to 29 psi at most, 6.1 cfm is right on the limit and is probably more or less what the gun uses, so i would say it should be ok but only for smaller parts, not ideal though, if i was only going to have one tip it would be 1.2, this will cover basecoat and MS/HS clears
Thanks for the feedback. Its a 29 gallon tank (110L) and I only want to do smaller pieces. Maybe a little bigger than a motorcycle helmet. I bought the compressor because someone else told me I could do that sized job with a 20 gallon compressor. I never checked for myself though. So I bought the compressor 1st and then realized the guns I was looking at were all going to need a much more robust air supply. I was hoping these mini guns would work though because I don't need a full-sized gun in the first place. I did this all backwards and now I'm trying to find a way to still get some use out of the compressor and paint some small fiberglass parts.
@@alienxyt, A 29 gallon tank will be fine, you can obviously let the tank fill before starting and you will find the tank will last you around 60 seconds of continuous spraying before the pump would start, that's loads of spraying for small parts, helmets, etc, indeed it will allow you to do plenty of larger parts
@@peteshobbies5383 thanks again. I was wondering if any of those 4 mini guns you tested used less air than the others?
@@alienxyt , yes, i was going to do a video on how long they last per cycle so will sort one out, i think the SRI pro lite uses the least with a te5 cap but i haven't tested it yet, will do soon
Interesting seeing some of the guns do not make a round spray pattern, My r150 1.2mm does not make a round pattern which I need need at the moment,
Hi, yes, they are an "I" pattern rather than an "o" pattern
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R150 and R160. Both are the same 1.0 head. How are these two models different? and which model is better In using a small work network, thank you.
Hi , the R150 and R160 spray the same but they are quite different to each other, virtually no parts are interchangeable, i personally like the R150 better because the air cap sealing is very simple and free of gaskets compared to the R160
@@peteshobbies5383 Ok I will choose R150 but R150 has 2 versions which are R150T black and R150Q silver I don't know how it's different. and what is better
@@1..883 They are the same apart from colour, the black version is the older one, they changes to polished aluminium body's and added the Q, the R160 has replaced the R150 but some stock of the R150 still remain.
They do a HVLP cap and a HPS cap, i like the HPS cap, cheers 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 Thank you, I learned from your video. and thank you again
Your welcome 👍
thank you!!!!!
Thanks
Im doing 1k clear on a bike fairing with the R150, I got some bad runs, the worst has put stripes in the basecoat so I will need to sand that and put more base. Any idea what Im doing wrong? I thinned the clear 1:0.75, using 0.8mm tip, 25psi, fan fully open, and fluid two turns out. If I reduce the fluid any further the fan gets too small. Heres a photo
i.postimg.cc/brkTK3HT/IMG-20200912-203612.jpg
HI Mark, so you put 75ml of thinners to 100ml of clear? , I'm not sure what clear you are using but most 1k clears i know of aren't meant to be thinned, the data sheet for your clear may say different, if the clear is affecting the base coat it does sound like it's either over thinned, so the thinners are reacting with the base or it's on to heavy at the start, over thinned or to heavy would also explain runs, not sure what the temperature is where you are but if it's less than say 20c then get a heat gun on the fairing before you clear and in between coats, be careful though as obviously this stuff is flammable, plenty of ventilation needed, also heat the clear if possible so leave the tin in the sun for a hour or two before you use it
I didn't see the runs, but saw what looks like a lot of orange peel. I would guess that 1) it wasn't thinned enough, 2) It wasn't sprayed evenly enough- too wet in some areas and dry in others- runs vrs. peel. Some 1k lacquers in the past needed 150 percent reduction, not 75%. That shape does look tricky to spray!
oof. salt in the wound for me.. i bought the 0.5 model for putting backing on toy cars.. though i use about 40psi to spray the waterbased paint. maybe i should have got the 1.0...
Hi Valk, I would have thought the 0.5 would have done quite well for your intended use but i guess it depends on the size of the car.
I have sold all my R150s apart from the 1.2 which i have in R150 and R160, I still rate them very highly particularly at there price point, i have guns at the 0.5 rang that preform much better but they are more than twice the price so aren't really comparable
@@peteshobbies5383for what i paid for it it does what i needed. spraying sealers and backer colours on 1/10 bodies. the .5 was mostly to try to save material as airbrush paints are kinda expensive but i think the 1.0 would have been a better choice to use less air pressure. water paints typically require more pressure but 40psi is kind of a lot. ill prob keep it around for sealers and white backers. maybe get an iwata trn2 or kustom th for colour change fills. having to clean out a pps adapter for airbrush is kinda wasteful hah.
i also have two sri pros... but i dont know if im the only one with this problem, but the nozzles seem cocked in their aircaps.. i was considering replacements until i looked up the cost of a nozzle set for it.. thus the ani r150 purchase.....
@@valkyuri1379 1/10 is a reasonable size so a 1.0 would have been better by the sounds of it, when you say cocked what are they doing?, haven't heard of many problems with them, only the rear sealing ring on the fluid tip but they are cheap and easy sourced
@@peteshobbies5383 if you look at the nozzle when the aircap is installed they are both noticeably off center. unfortunately i left them at work so cant share a pic. i wish i bought the bigger ani though cause when i got it from spraygunsdirect, only the .5 model was still shipping in the crappy black finish. id prob like it a lot more if i got the nice plastic coating...