Thanks Pete. Super interested in these Porphis guns and I was about to ask the PPS question when you answered it. That's definitely something they need to sort, but if they do they're a compelling proposition.
Hi Mate, Yes, I'm sure they will as it will be holding sales of the gun back. It's a very good gun, so there's no reason people shouldn't buy it, but that is one. Cheers 👍
Thanks Pete, love all the videos but really enjoy the Porfish ones as these are new to me. Looking forward to your review of the PC-415 you showed on instagram. Looks like a sweet one
Hi Scott, Thanks, mate. I'm glad you're still enjoying the videos 🙂 Yes, the PC415 I've literally just received, build looks superb, it's a simplified PRD715 I think which I really like the idea of. I'll get an Unboxing video up on the PC415 soon. First impressions are very good, hopefully it will perform as good as the build and looks suggest, cheers, mates 👍
Hi Pete, for the sides of motorcycle parts i always turn the aircap a quarter turn and spray up/down (and sideways ofcourse) instead of only sideways like i see most people do including you. It's instantly wet in one pas and much less ovespray this way. I hope you get what i mean.
Hi Harold, Yes, I do get what you are saying, however, a couple of reasons I don't do it. I'm not sure it makes a difference, as you can just turn the work the other way instead of the spray cap, but, more importantly, I notice on many spray guns, the atomisation will deteriorate when the cap is turned by as much as 90 degrees, this is because on most guns the air enters the cap at the top, or bottom of the gun, so a disproportionate amount of air comes out of one side of the cap. At the end of the day, it's all about getting the results you want. It sounds like it's working perfectly for you, so that's what matters, thanks, mate. I appreciate it 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 Shouldn't the airdistribution ring behind the cap take care of that? Food for an investigation video Pete! 😂 I think many people don't realise that the gun (could) spray different if you turn the aircap differently.
@Harolddespui Yes, it's an idea for a video. When I get time, I will experiment more. The baffles are all shaped, so I suspect they are all shaped in a way that makes it optimal for the air horns at 90 degrees to the gun body rather than parallel, I will look into it more when I can, cheers buddy 👍
Hi Pete, now that looks a fantastic little mini gun as it laid the clear down beautifully👌from what I could see on your bench it has a nice wet fan pattern which is not to big so it makes it a good gun for smaller parts, when painting the parts you were doing a big fan isn't always the best thing to have. As you mentioned it doesn't seem to put out to much overspray which is good if you are painting in your garage plus it doesn't use to much air👍 I've been using my PRD717 this morning and I'm beginning to find that it likes to be used a bit like the X5500 CC as in painting a bit closer than you would with the Fuji or ProLite🤔I find it brings the fan in a bit without the need to adjust it giving it a wetter pattern, I'm also thinking this would be a better gun with the 1.4 tip (I think that's what you use) so I might get one along with the PRD-715 tip set🤔 Thanks Pete a very enjoyable video👏👍
Hi John, It's a lovely little mini gun mate, well made, not expensive, and gives excellent results. As I was saying in the video, it's not a big fan gun, so trying to be a do it all mini, it's much more of a precision mini, so ideal for smart repairs, even scale model builders would fine it really useful. Yes, when I ordered my first PRD717, I went for 1.4 as I thought the gun would be slower. All the split tip guns are so a 1.4 setup does speed it up. I often say to people, if you can afford it, the PRD715 is a good gun to get alongside the 717, simply because it is so different, the 715 is, as you know, super fast and such fun to use, cheers mate, thanks as always 👍
Yeah it looks a nice gun mate and as you say the price is good for what you get. I think with some mini guns having a smaller fan can be a good thing as you don't want all the paint missing your project when the fan is bigger than the item you are painting and like you I prefer to use my guns at full fan and full fluid as that is how they are designed to work👍 I wish now that I got it in a 1.4 but I seem to remember that the 1.4 in the blue was out of stock so I just got that rather than waiting for it😁🙄 it's a shame you can't buy just the tip as I would have thought the aircap and possibly needle is the same🤔but I will get the 1.4 tip set for it and get a PRD715 1.3 tip set for it as well, cheers mate👍
@JohnWD40TC02 I ended up getting both the 1.3 and 1.4, What happens I think, is because the pressure you can use it at is quite low, obviously that reduces the amount of material flowing through, so a 1.3 can seem slow, the 1.4 helps with this, it's the same with the LPH400 and Wider4L, the 1.4 is the way to go if your using low pressure, cheers mate 👍
Thanks for the video: Compared to the Astro gun of the same size, the Porphis is shaped different in certain areas so I don't think it's the same gun body.
Hi Joel, Yeah, I think you could be right. There are a few things adding up to make it more and more compelling that it is different. One day, maybe I'll get hold of the Astro and see. The Porphis performs really well. People tell me the Astro is good as well, cheers mate 👍
If you can get hold of one try get a review one one of these guns originally from screfix I brought 2 about 5yrs ago I use them with 0.8 tips and there still going strong been such a great gun . They cost me around the £40 mark 5yrs ago and if screfix made them available agen I'd buy 2 more .. the gun is Erbauer ERN644ATL HVLP Gravity-Fed Spray Gun (2403H)
I've just checked the Irish stores (that's where i am), and there's none. But i got one a while ago and it really is very good. Much better than the mini 888 i just got actually.
Hello pete, in one of your videos you mention the time it takes for neat thinners to flow through the viscosity cup, could you just remind me as I can't find that video again.
Hi Derek, I haven't done a video with neat thinners going through a cup, I mentioned in one of my videos the time, which I think was around 7 or 8 seconds, I did this video which shows the difference heating the clear coat up makes to the viscosity, which is huge, ua-cam.com/video/VRCGv6Rxw1Q/v-deo.html
@peteshobbies5383 Thank you for your reply. The reason I asked was ,I have a devilbiss viscosity cup from the 1970s, which has a step about a quarter of an inch from the top, and I wasn't sure if this was where you should fill it to or the top of the cup. I will experiment now and see the results. Again, many thanks.
Hi Pete. So your settings were Fan = full, Fluid = full, Pressure = 22 psi for clearcoat and Fan = full, Fluid = full, Pressure = 18 psi for base coat?
Hi mate, Yes, that's what I've settled on for the MPH338. You can go up a bit on pressure for both base and clear as the pattern stays good, although it will depend on the viscosity of the materials used
Hi mate, I went through 4 different bottles, all only lasted a few days then the solvent get to them. Started using these 4 years ago and still on the same ones! The Wurth and Colad ones are the only ones that last, this is my ones, www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404920045305?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=eQTwss5AR2y&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=v5EZyL9iR9-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Beautiful finish Pete, as always. Interesting video, plenty of info as always. I see in another comment you're going to do a top 10 kind of thing. I've seen another one you did, top 12, which was really good. But I wonder if you did a top 10/20 etc, but without taking the gun cost into account, would people find that useful? So you'd rank the guns from 1 to 10 ir 20 based on performance, so i could look and say Pete's number 6 gun is affordable to me, whereas i would love the number 5 etc, but it's more expensive and i couldn't justify spending that kind of money. Just a thought. Thanks as always, the most interesting spray painting channel I've found.
Hi Dominic, I was planning on using a similar scoring system to the one I did on the mini guns, but I'm going out of 10 per section rather than 5. I think the best gun normally ends up at the top anyway because it's not price it's marked on, it's value for money really which is different, if a gun is very expensive but really good, it's still good value for money
GOOD LITTLE VIDEO THERE PETE WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO THE TOP TEN SPRAY GUN 🔫 LIST MATE REALY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT ALL THE TOP GUNS VRS THE PHORPIS 😊😊
@meguinness1116 You can buy Hammerite thinners, but I use normal 2k thinners, so virgin thinners, and that works fine. Just try thinning a little amount to make sure what you have is compatible. It will either thin nicely of coagulat
Hi buddy, It's quite different. The 510 is more like a full-size gun with a small tip. It flows more material than this, uses more air, is physically much bigger, and generally more of everything. The 510 is very good and can be made into a full-size 1.3 gun with a tip and cap set. The MPH338 is much more suited to smaller, more delicate work. What do you want the gun for mainly?
Hello Pete and all. If anyone is considering the purchase of this gun, keep in mind that the gun you receive may not have any markings on it. No tip size on the cap, no tip size on the nozzle or needle, no name on the body, and no model number on the body. I’ve been trying to get help from customer service, but nothing as of now. They didn’t send me what is advertised on their website or like what Pete is using.
As you will know, my gun has markings on the gun, my spare tip set has no markings at all but it's definitely the 0.8 as it's smaller than the 1.0 I received with the gun.
@@peteshobbies5383 Hi Pete. I spoke with customer service through a series of emails. Porphis is sending a new 1.0 tip set with the size and name on the cap. Those markings are all I really need and want. I also put the order in for the PRD-717 and they’re shipping the gun and new tip set for free. Hopefully it all works out. I’ll keep you posted. Thanks buddy.
@tubbed68cuda Hi Mate, it sounds like they are looking after you. It's not ideal for the mistake in the first place, but obviously, it doesn't affect the way the gun works. You'll love the PRD717. It really is very good and capable of great finishes at low pressures. Thanks, buddy 👍
@peteshobbies5383 hi pete I need some information sir my question to you can I use the base coat cap on walcom 360 clear coat gun and what would the result be I purchased the walcom carbonio halo 360 the newest edition they just release
@refinishtechnology2529 Hi Mate, it's not just the cap. The fluid tip is also different. The cap will fit, but to make it act as it should, you need the tip as well
@@peteshobbies5383 Hi Pete, Well, I dunno, but it's spelt Porphis all I was saying is ph is pronounced F, so it should be PORFIS. Unless they told you different!
@kenc4104 Ken, I've just been running this past my wife, who has "A" level grade English, I wish I had asked here before as she says you're 100% correct and I'm an idiot 😂🫣, I did say grammar isn't my strong point 😁. I'll have to remember that for the future, cheers mate, hope the back is behaving 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 Ha Ha, thanks Pete. Yes, the back is almost 100%. The trouble with being old is that everything takes forever to heal! Just got he roof of my son's car to spray now, but I don't think that's a job for the DV1S, not that it couldn't do it, but I think that's a Prolite job.
Fantastic result as always, mate! 🤩
Thanks, Ben, much appreciated 👍
Thanks Pete. Super interested in these Porphis guns and I was about to ask the PPS question when you answered it. That's definitely something they need to sort, but if they do they're a compelling proposition.
Hi Mate, Yes, I'm sure they will as it will be holding sales of the gun back. It's a very good gun, so there's no reason people shouldn't buy it, but that is one. Cheers 👍
Thanks Pete, love all the videos but really enjoy the Porfish ones as these are new to me. Looking forward to your review of the PC-415 you showed on instagram. Looks like a sweet one
Hi Scott, Thanks, mate. I'm glad you're still enjoying the videos 🙂
Yes, the PC415 I've literally just received, build looks superb, it's a simplified PRD715 I think which I really like the idea of.
I'll get an Unboxing video up on the PC415 soon. First impressions are very good, hopefully it will perform as good as the build and looks suggest, cheers, mates 👍
Hi Pete, for the sides of motorcycle parts i always turn the aircap a quarter turn and spray up/down (and sideways ofcourse) instead of only sideways like i see most people do including you. It's instantly wet in one pas and much less ovespray this way. I hope you get what i mean.
Hi Harold, Yes, I do get what you are saying, however, a couple of reasons I don't do it.
I'm not sure it makes a difference, as you can just turn the work the other way instead of the spray cap, but, more importantly, I notice on many spray guns, the atomisation will deteriorate when the cap is turned by as much as 90 degrees, this is because on most guns the air enters the cap at the top, or bottom of the gun, so a disproportionate amount of air comes out of one side of the cap.
At the end of the day, it's all about getting the results you want. It sounds like it's working perfectly for you, so that's what matters, thanks, mate. I appreciate it 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 Shouldn't the airdistribution ring behind the cap take care of that?
Food for an investigation video Pete! 😂
I think many people don't realise that the gun (could) spray different if you turn the aircap differently.
@Harolddespui Yes, it's an idea for a video. When I get time, I will experiment more. The baffles are all shaped, so I suspect they are all shaped in a way that makes it optimal for the air horns at 90 degrees to the gun body rather than parallel, I will look into it more when I can, cheers buddy 👍
Hi Pete, now that looks a fantastic little mini gun as it laid the clear down beautifully👌from what I could see on your bench it has a nice wet fan pattern which is not to big so it makes it a good gun for smaller parts, when painting the parts you were doing a big fan isn't always the best thing to have. As you mentioned it doesn't seem to put out to much overspray which is good if you are painting in your garage plus it doesn't use to much air👍
I've been using my PRD717 this morning and I'm beginning to find that it likes to be used a bit like the X5500 CC as in painting a bit closer than you would with the Fuji or ProLite🤔I find it brings the fan in a bit without the need to adjust it giving it a wetter pattern, I'm also thinking this would be a better gun with the 1.4 tip (I think that's what you use) so I might get one along with the PRD-715 tip set🤔
Thanks Pete a very enjoyable video👏👍
Hi John, It's a lovely little mini gun mate, well made, not expensive, and gives excellent results.
As I was saying in the video, it's not a big fan gun, so trying to be a do it all mini, it's much more of a precision mini, so ideal for smart repairs, even scale model builders would fine it really useful.
Yes, when I ordered my first PRD717, I went for 1.4 as I thought the gun would be slower. All the split tip guns are so a 1.4 setup does speed it up.
I often say to people, if you can afford it, the PRD715 is a good gun to get alongside the 717, simply because it is so different, the 715 is, as you know, super fast and such fun to use, cheers mate, thanks as always 👍
Yeah it looks a nice gun mate and as you say the price is good for what you get. I think with some mini guns having a smaller fan can be a good thing as you don't want all the paint missing your project when the fan is bigger than the item you are painting and like you I prefer to use my guns at full fan and full fluid as that is how they are designed to work👍
I wish now that I got it in a 1.4 but I seem to remember that the 1.4 in the blue was out of stock so I just got that rather than waiting for it😁🙄 it's a shame you can't buy just the tip as I would have thought the aircap and possibly needle is the same🤔but I will get the 1.4 tip set for it and get a PRD715 1.3 tip set for it as well, cheers mate👍
@JohnWD40TC02 I ended up getting both the 1.3 and 1.4, What happens I think, is because the pressure you can use it at is quite low, obviously that reduces the amount of material flowing through, so a 1.3 can seem slow, the 1.4 helps with this, it's the same with the LPH400 and Wider4L, the 1.4 is the way to go if your using low pressure, cheers mate 👍
Thanks for the video: Compared to the Astro gun of the same size, the Porphis is shaped different in certain areas so I don't think it's the same gun body.
Hi Joel, Yeah, I think you could be right. There are a few things adding up to make it more and more compelling that it is different.
One day, maybe I'll get hold of the Astro and see. The Porphis performs really well. People tell me the Astro is good as well, cheers mate 👍
If you can get hold of one try get a review one one of these guns originally from screfix I brought 2 about 5yrs ago I use them with 0.8 tips and there still going strong been such a great gun . They cost me around the £40 mark 5yrs ago and if screfix made them available agen I'd buy 2 more .. the gun is
Erbauer ERN644ATL HVLP Gravity-Fed Spray Gun (2403H)
Hi mate, I just looked it up. They still sell them if you want another 😁
Iv looked up and there us can't find 1 from uk
@dizzybee8419 I just checked. They are available in Ireland, but not the UK
I've just checked the Irish stores (that's where i am), and there's none.
But i got one a while ago and it really is very good. Much better than the mini 888 i just got actually.
Hello pete, in one of your videos you mention the time it takes for neat thinners to flow through the viscosity cup, could you just remind me as I can't find that video again.
Hi Derek, I haven't done a video with neat thinners going through a cup, I mentioned in one of my videos the time, which I think was around 7 or 8 seconds, I did this video which shows the difference heating the clear coat up makes to the viscosity, which is huge,
ua-cam.com/video/VRCGv6Rxw1Q/v-deo.html
@peteshobbies5383 Thank you for your reply. The reason I asked was ,I have a devilbiss viscosity cup from the 1970s, which has a step about a quarter of an inch from the top, and I wasn't sure if this was where you should fill it to or the top of the cup. I will experiment now and see the results. Again, many thanks.
@derekwheatley338 You're welcome buddy 👍
Hi Pete. So your settings were Fan = full, Fluid = full, Pressure = 22 psi for clearcoat and Fan = full, Fluid = full, Pressure = 18 psi for base coat?
Hi mate, Yes, that's what I've settled on for the MPH338. You can go up a bit on pressure for both base and clear as the pattern stays good, although it will depend on the viscosity of the materials used
Great Video Pete, what is that dispenser you are using for the wax and grease remover? The red one i bought on Amazon had trouble with the Prep-All.
Hi mate, I went through 4 different bottles, all only lasted a few days then the solvent get to them.
Started using these 4 years ago and still on the same ones!
The Wurth and Colad ones are the only ones that last, this is my ones,
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404920045305?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=eQTwss5AR2y&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=v5EZyL9iR9-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Beautiful finish Pete, as always. Interesting video, plenty of info as always.
I see in another comment you're going to do a top 10 kind of thing. I've seen another one you did, top 12, which was really good. But I wonder if you did a top 10/20 etc, but without taking the gun cost into account, would people find that useful? So you'd rank the guns from 1 to 10 ir 20 based on performance, so i could look and say Pete's number 6 gun is affordable to me, whereas i would love the number 5 etc, but it's more expensive and i couldn't justify spending that kind of money.
Just a thought. Thanks as always, the most interesting spray painting channel I've found.
Hi Dominic, I was planning on using a similar scoring system to the one I did on the mini guns, but I'm going out of 10 per section rather than 5.
I think the best gun normally ends up at the top anyway because it's not price it's marked on, it's value for money really which is different, if a gun is very expensive but really good, it's still good value for money
Ok, sounds good. Looking forward to that. Thanks for taking the time to reply 👍
You're welcome mate 👍
GOOD LITTLE VIDEO THERE PETE WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO THE TOP TEN SPRAY GUN 🔫 LIST MATE REALY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT ALL THE TOP GUNS VRS THE PHORPIS 😊😊
Hi Andrew, it's on my list mate, I'll get round to it soon 😀 👍
Any other cheaper options? Ta
Not really. You can get cheaper mini guns, but they are not as good as these
Any chance for a review of the Ntools mini 888 ? Ta
Hi mate, it's the same as this one
ua-cam.com/video/-9CamYk0vh0/v-deo.html
@@peteshobbies5383 thank you, for £27 from Ali could be worthwhile then .
@@peteshobbies5383 thank you,btw how do I thin hammerite? With thinner? Ta
@meguinness1116 You can buy Hammerite thinners, but I use normal 2k thinners, so virgin thinners, and that works fine.
Just try thinning a little amount to make sure what you have is compatible. It will either thin nicely of coagulat
@@peteshobbies5383 Thank you I never thought of that 😁
How does this gun compare to the PRD510 lvlp 1.0 ? 🤔 I've got the 510 in my Porphis shopping cart 😂
Hi buddy, It's quite different. The 510 is more like a full-size gun with a small tip. It flows more material than this, uses more air, is physically much bigger, and generally more of everything.
The 510 is very good and can be made into a full-size 1.3 gun with a tip and cap set. The MPH338 is much more suited to smaller, more delicate work. What do you want the gun for mainly?
Hello Pete and all. If anyone is considering the purchase of this gun, keep in mind that the gun you receive may not have any markings on it. No tip size on the cap, no tip size on the nozzle or needle, no name on the body, and no model number on the body. I’ve been trying to get help from customer service, but nothing as of now. They didn’t send me what is advertised on their website or like what Pete is using.
As you will know, my gun has markings on the gun, my spare tip set has no markings at all but it's definitely the 0.8 as it's smaller than the 1.0 I received with the gun.
@@peteshobbies5383 Hi Pete. I spoke with customer service through a series of emails. Porphis is sending a new 1.0 tip set with the size and name on the cap. Those markings are all I really need and want. I also put the order in for the PRD-717 and they’re shipping the gun and new tip set for free. Hopefully it all works out. I’ll keep you posted. Thanks buddy.
@tubbed68cuda Hi Mate, it sounds like they are looking after you. It's not ideal for the mistake in the first place, but obviously, it doesn't affect the way the gun works.
You'll love the PRD717. It really is very good and capable of great finishes at low pressures. Thanks, buddy 👍
@peteshobbies5383 hi pete I need some information sir my question to you can I use the base coat cap on walcom 360 clear coat gun and what would the result be I purchased the walcom carbonio halo 360 the newest edition they just release
@refinishtechnology2529 Hi Mate, it's not just the cap. The fluid tip is also different. The cap will fit, but to make it act as it should, you need the tip as well
Pete, just wondering how a gun spelt PORFIS (phonetically) is pronounced PORPISH?
Hi Ken, it's spelt Porphis, so I'm just saying it as it is. Am I saying it wrong? Spelling isn't my best subject. In fact, it's my worst 🙃 😫
@@peteshobbies5383 Hi Pete, Well, I dunno, but it's spelt Porphis all I was saying is ph is pronounced F, so it should be PORFIS. Unless they told you different!
@kenc4104 Ken, I've just been running this past my wife, who has "A" level grade English, I wish I had asked here before as she says you're 100% correct and I'm an idiot 😂🫣, I did say grammar isn't my strong point 😁.
I'll have to remember that for the future, cheers mate, hope the back is behaving 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 Ha Ha, thanks Pete. Yes, the back is almost 100%. The trouble with being old is that everything takes forever to heal! Just got he roof of my son's car to spray now, but I don't think that's a job for the DV1S, not that it couldn't do it, but I think that's a Prolite job.
@kenc4104 Yeah, age catches up with us mate, certainly, something like a roof would be painful with the DV1S, cheers mate 👍
Hi Pete, Is there a way to send you an email? Thanks Dan
Hi Dan, try youtubepetes@outlook.com