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- THE PUDDLE JUMPER: A small, space-faring vessel engineered by the Ancients in the city of Atlantis many millions of years ago. The multi-purpose craft was likely used by the Lanteans for traveling through the Stargate, visiting other worlds or transporting personnel and supplies to various outposts in the Pegasus Galaxy ...
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They were also used in the Milky Way prior to Atlantis' departure.
Looks like that's the only note I have today, great video.
Something just occurred to me after watching this, something I didn't exactly realize while watching the show.
So when you were talking about in the video the puddle jumper that Janice created for the Milky way, I always thought that he chose that route for his experiments in the original timeline, but then I remembered there was an episode of Atlantis where the first expedition that went there mostly died and it was only Dr Weir that was sent back in time in Janice's lab and that's when he first heard about their story, it does make me wonder that because of his experiment with the Time travel stuff, that he took his learned experience from Dr Weir and her journey while protecting Atlantis, him and his other Atlantean family left Atlantis in her hands, but the reason why the other puddle jumper existed in the Milky way, was because he continued his experiments because of what he learned through Dr Weir with his experiment.
What I'm trying to say here is I believe that the only reason why the puddle jumper in the Milky Way existed, was because of his experience of using the jumper on Atlantis.
I used to believe that he just chose that because he was a very intelligent person within the Latin Society, and that was just one of the routes he went automatically, but now I'm thinking that it was further inspired by his experiment through Dr Weir.
Meaning he left that Time Jumper in the Milky Way galaxy on purpose for us to find, because he knew that within the next 10,000 years us humans would discover it, of course he must have traveled through time himself, and it makes you wonder if he's still out there within time, it makes you wonder if he's still alive, he was probably the most intelligent Latin out of the mall, he was always working on some kind of experiment that he hid from others within his group of scientists, because of course he knew that they would never approve, but because he was so intelligent, he knew how to hide these things from them.
The other thing is it's possible that he also ascended to the higher plane of existence, but I assume he saw the future and how the events unfolded, perhaps he left other things for us lowly humans of Earth to find so that we would have greater success, basically intervention without making it look like he was doing any kind of intervention.
Because think about it, there was another timeline entirely that existed when that first doctor weird went through, that suggests there were a lot of other little things for Janice to pay attention to, and perhaps even see the future himself, as far as I understand it, the ascended beings don't have the capability to no the future, they do have the capability to understand the probabilities of the future, which is why Daniel thought that there was no hope for Jack when he was in balls prison, but then because he was paying attention to what was going on on Earth, he was positive of that information that Sam and tilk would figure it out and break him out of that prison without the need of any divine intervention on his part when he was ascended.
Being an ascended being seems like your experience within the ascended Realm is limited, of course it's limited in the human form as well, but there was a lot more free agency within a human body then there would have been within the ascended realm because they interfere so bloody often even though the claim not to.
Anyway just some stuff to think about.
I apologize for many of my misspellings, I'm using text to speech, and it often gets what I say wrong, but I don't want to spend forever trying to fix that stuff, which is why the typos are still there.
In season one atlantis puddle jumpers had different control consoles, but in later seasons they had different. I'd like to know, if this was an upgrade of some kind or if the producers said this must be corrected.
I love the puddle jumper :) Such a cool little ship.
Those drone weapons probably make it the most powerful ship pound for pound in Sci-Fi.
@@allnamesaretakenful The drone weapons are seriously amazing.
I agree :)
Exactly I loved the puddle jumper it was a cool design just like Atlantis itself would love to live there , the jumper can take out 1 hive and 1 cruiser if wanted too I saw shepherd take out a hive with 8 drones from a jumper with 4 more to take out a cruiser those things are very damage dealing I wander if the ancients just mass produced more jumpers and drones and just used stargates to fight off the wraith they could of won lol
when the ship smaller than a corvette punches more power than a battleships :D
yeah i agree that makes no sense. i was thinking of an weapon that used hyperspace as a way to bypass shields and then re-enter into another hyperspace window at close proximity to the other ship, effectively tearing that other ship apart into scraps because the hyperspace window would be far to small for the other ship to be pulled in and the other ship wouldn't be ready since it's shields only extended outside the ship.
this wouldn't work for destiny though, because destiny's shields are almost skin tight to the ship when they are on. but it would work for Ori ships as well as goa'uld hattok's and wraith war ships.
however it does make one wonder if they could make them even smaller like microscopic smaller. i always wondered why the replicators never tried this idea, because they would have been the most capable in creating an weapon like this because they are pretty much AI robots and could probably figure out the right programming for such a thing.
funny enough, it's not really even a weapon so much as it's meant for hyperspace travel.
Exactly I loved the puddle jumper it was a cool design just like Atlantis itself would love to live there , the jumper can take out 1 hive and 1 cruiser if wanted too I saw shepherd take out a hive with 8 drones from a jumper with 4 more to take out a cruiser those things are very damage dealing I wander if the ancients just mass produced more jumpers and drones and just used stargates to fight off the wraith they could of won lol
@@tylersoto7465 it's not about the ships, it's about the loss in ancients themselves, the wraith breed far faster than the anicents
@@user-tp5yb4hr4w When you watch SG1 and SGA it makes perfect sense. with the ancients tech you have the perfect ship. easy to add a zpm etc etc. it's a neat and effective ship.
@@jwb_666
Oh man, it's been so long since I've viewed this topic, I honestly don't remember the context of why I said what I said, you probably could add a zpm to a puddle jumper, but I'm not sure how that would work out, it might fry the circuits on that ship as it was meant for a much larger ship however granted let's say that it could handle it, it would actually probably do a better job and handling anything thrown at it, cuz it could preserve thatpower far better than the city ship as it such a small vessel, although I'm not really sure if power is the Apollo jumpers main problem, I don't know if the shields become stronger on the puddle jumper if they have more power or if they will respond the same way regardless what the power source is.
Edit: well, I went back and read my comment and re-watch the video, and I still don't remember what my reason was for that first half of my response.
But I did gain some more information off of the video then I was able to hypothesize something else unrelated to your comment, but I just thought it was cool that I found more information that I could apply to the lore of this great series to further expand on one of the stories that wasn't immediately realized while watching the show until now.
But that's attached to the main comment of this channels pinned comment instead of in here.
''It's a ship, it goes through a gate. Gateship One!'' - Lt. Ford
"Oh, okay, well, it's official…You don't get to name anything. Ever." - Maj. Sheppard
''This is Flight, I thought we were going with Gateship?'' - Dr. McKay
Yo, this was the only memorable quote from Lt. Ford. It had that quintessential stargate banter with quirky and sarcastic undertone that I've quickly grown to fondly appreciate.
I actually prefer Gateship but I guess that was the point of that sequence lol
I like both names :)
Just wish they could make more puddle jumpers. I would love to know where and how they even make them and other technology in Atlantis. There has to be a factory or something that makes them and other things, like the drones, in the city.
Agreed, it always felt weird to me that during SGA, there was never any mention of Atlantis, which was supposed to be this huge self-sustaining city-ship, having any drone or jumper manufacturing facilities.
They were never really able to activate Atlantis most of the time because they needed 3 ZPMs and large parts were still unexplored. It’s possible the manufacturing facility was in an area they weren’t able to secure yet.
Exactly I loved the puddle jumper it was a cool design just like Atlantis itself would love to live there , the jumper can take out 1 hive and 1 cruiser if wanted too I saw shepherd take out a hive with 8 drones from a jumper with 4 more to take out a cruiser those things are very damage dealing I wander if the ancients just mass produced more jumpers and drones and just used stargates to fight off the wraith they could of won lol
What bothers me is that they never discovered how to manufacture ZPMs
They could technically build puddle jumper like ships , go steal a bunch of gao'uld tel'tak transport ships , and break the ships down, and make puddle jumper size ships, and use the tel'taks naquadah generator, cloaking, shields, inertia dampenersand metal hull to make new jumpers , idk if we can put a interface to fire drones or not , but you could put railguns or chain guns on them with missiles with naquadah enhanced explosives in the missiles, to still be very effective in combat especially the wraith ships , and can mass produce these if they could, and Atlantis will have more puddle jumper like ships to use and more air support etc
Space minivan for the win baybeeeeee!
You know what I really expect from the Tauri if a new series come out?
A Stargate capable F-302 *AND* a small transport variant, Puddle jumpers proved they're invaluable, and the Tauri must get this technology.
The F-302 would not be a huge problem, as they already have retractable wings, they just need one of those anti-gravity devices so they can travel through safely until the wings are deployed, but I'd love to see the Tauri vision of a stealth transport.
I'd like to see the tauri version of those Lantean Drone Warheads on a BC-304 or a BC-507
@@Hammerhead137 I don't think they'll spend that much money on developing a weapon until someone makes their Asgard weapons ineffective, and nobody knows how to do that, only Anubis but he's trapped.
One of my favourite sci-fi ships!
Nicely done video, always liked the Puddle Jumper.
Exactly I loved the puddle jumper it was a cool design just like Atlantis itself would love to live there , the jumper can take out 1 hive and 1 cruiser if wanted too I saw shepherd take out a hive with 8 drones from a jumper with 4 more to take out a cruiser those things are very damage dealing I wander if the ancients just mass produced more jumpers and drones and just used stargates to fight off the wraith they could of won lol
I loved puddle jumpers!. They were adorable 😅 One thing they lack off is shields. They're very vulnerable to big ships weapons because they have no shields. Even darts are capable of taking them out. If they were to have shields they would be complete package. Rodney was right btw, the ancients called them gate ships too 😅
I mean… they reconfigured the stealth to become a shield later
Loving this series, keep it up
Thanks for watching, Reddeeno! Making plans for July's videos.
You have a great channel. As a Stargate fan it's great to listen about all sorts of gateworld stuff in detail.
Thanks for watching!
McKay was right, Gateship makes more sense.
The Asurans and possibly even the Ancients called them Gateships.
But it jumps into the puddle-like shielded event horizon of the gate.
I always found it odd that the Atlantians didn't develop a hyper drive for the jumpers. I know it was that way for story purposes but it would be logical to have an emergency short range drive.
Maybe Terrins could make improvements when they build their own.
It was intentional that they didn't have to much high tech stuff that could be reversed engineered by the Wraith. Ancients could have put one in the puddle jumper it would have looked like the Time Ship in side. Like the Aurora Battle Cruisers didn't have galactic hyperdrives but with their emginuity they could modify them to go Galactic.
Why is there not a single mention that SG-1 found it first on the Goa'uld Aeries' planet when they came to rescue Maybourne?
It was deemed unnecessary to catalog each ship and every episode. For the Omnipedia's purposes it's enough to simply say that a Jumper was discovered in the Milky Way.
@@GateWorldDotNet it sound important to me as - SG first found it at XX - it was leaked wayyy before atlantis
Shuttle?
Star Trek: No, we have that already.
Runabout?
Star Trek: No, we have that already also.
Skiff?
Star Trek: We don't have that, go for it.
Nah, we'll keep working on it.
Skiff is taken - go talk to the Eliskni
I love the Gate Ship.
You can have the Enterprise or Millennium Falcon, the Puddle Jumper is my favorite ship in all of sci-fi.
They are actually really OP. Their main drawback is limited ammo but thank to plot armour that’s never really and issue.
one of my favourite ships of all time .. one day !!
I love that you mention the name "gateship"! Hewlett still calls them that :D
The puddle jumpers were like the voyager shuttles they had a "Limited Supply" but had enough to crash one every week.
And remember when drones were "limited" too.
Great video, very informative! Thank you.
The Tauri should reverse engineer them as the X-305
I always thought they should reverse engineer them as Earths flying cars 😁
Exactly I loved the puddle jumper it was a cool design just like Atlantis itself would love to live there , the jumper can take out 1 hive and 1 cruiser if wanted too I saw shepherd take out a hive with 8 drones from a jumper with 4 more to take out a cruiser those things are very damage dealing I wander if the ancients just mass produced more jumpers and drones and just used stargates to fight off the wraith they could of won lol
Correction: GATESHIP. A SHIP that goes trough the GATE. GATESHIP
I think Atlanteans called it Gateships too
@@damagedcharizardcollector1195 We will never know?
I forgot half those things... Time to rewatch?
Puddle Jumpers could've been inspired by similar ships from Starship Troopers, which feature similar shape, dimensions, interior, even retractable wings (though the engines are on the main body on those).
Can be seen around 32th minute of the movie.
It never quite made sense to me why they'd have puddle jumpers enter and exit the Stargate through an occupied hall and control room in the middle of the city, if a jumper comes in fast, with pursuing hostiles and weapons fire. Why wouldn't they arrive and depart outside, some sort of landing platform, or a dedicated launch bay? It would need a Stargate, though. But that could make sense rather than the middle of the city's hall and control center. Just a thought for any future series.
It was designed and built long before Ancients had any opposition. It was not meant to be in a middle of a warzone. Ancients were not warriors. And when there were Ancients still around there was probable something wormhole schedule for gate so you can´t just randomly decide to go somewhere walk up to DHD and dial. And if you use stargate you are already at destination so you don´t use jumpers going from one city to another. If you are not in destination there is probably transporter close. And if that is not the case then you might be getting a jumper. Gate was probably more of a crosswalk than highway.
I honestly thought it was a huge missed opportunity to have the time jumper jump to atlantis while the lanteans were close to abandoning it, and learn why they disappeared first hand, and maybe a bit of useful information to not have history repeat itself.
we need more stargate
Nice
What episode did they find the second cityship in? I forgot about that
Season 2 episode 15 the tower
@@sazkie-chan9390 thanks!
I enjoyed that episode. Thought it was kinda fascinating that there was a second city underground. If I recall, there was some pushback from the network on that episode. Said there wasn’t enough action or something. Glad we got to see it because it was an interesting concept.
@@Krafty It's an interesting concept but a dumb implementation. If it was 1960s show I'd put it down to schlock value but it's not and it leaves way too many open questions about why the Wraith wouldn't have long since destroyed/recovered anything so powerful. Far from the only time either. Every season has at least five like it while SG1 had less than that in ten seasons...
There were multiple cities apparently. Some bases were labs, outposts that the cities docked to and the cities themselves. Not sure how many there were. I think there was one in one of the books from what I read online but haven't read it yet.
Where can I buy one?
how can they pass fast through the gate, if automated systems are handling the gate-crossing? Always buckled me :D Kind of looks like they disable that feature when they need it, but there was never a real explanation given... Cool video though!
The automated systems don't slow you down. They just make sure the ship is centered so you don't crash into the gate or scrape the paint. :)
Did they ever explain how the Puddle Jumpers are still operational a millions of years later? What are they made out of that they didn't degrade over time?
Probably whatever the city itself is made of seeing as that didn't degrade either
I believe the cities interior was in a vacuum until the gate activated and turned on the life support straight away. Would preserve the ships. Then again, it could be just the material it's made from.
Because it was made from advance materials that don't decay
3.46 , Atlantis has 2 known Jumper Bay as 1 is in the center tower above where the Stargate is located while the other 1 is in the pool / Lake but it only 3 or 4 Jumps ,,
This is in the video, if you watch another 15 seconds.
still cannot believe that puddle jumper was leaked wayyy before atlantis, if i remember well it was in one episode of original stargate
SG-1 Season 8 and SGA Season 1 actually aired at the same time. So when the Jumper showed up in SG-1's "It's Good To Be King," Atlantis had been on the air for several months.
You would think the team would cloak before going through the gate so the enemy didn't see them flying out, but this wasn't down for the viewers
Hi i have question in which episode they found second Atlantis ?
The second Lantean city ship is in Season 2's "The Tower."
@@GateWorldDotNet thanks
I’d make it in to a boat
at 1:06 what episode is that from
The shot of two Jumpers decloaking over the team's head is from the end of Season 1's "Underground."
@@GateWorldDotNet thank you :)
The now famous “ tick tack “ uap
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Gate Ship is still a better name. Fight me. Haha ;)
Come to think of it, why wouldn't the ancients take those back to earth when they left...
Its aerodynamics are impossible for this kind of speed. It would drag the jumper down in Earth atmosphere like crazy. It has to be pointy at least on 2 opposite sides. Air planes have a pointy nose for a very good reason. Not good design. Someone who built the stargate wouldn't make such a dumb mistake. It doesn't matter if the ship has 50000 hp or more.
Well, since it's a sci-fi ship, the antigravity technology kinda takes traditional aerodynamics out of the equation.
@@GateWorldDotNet It's not about the drive. There's always faster. Why would one make the ship less efficient if they can make it faster and more stable in flight in the atmosphere just by making the front of the ship pointy!? Wasn't it the point to make it look realistic!? As a scientist I see things differently. If something looks cool but doesn't work is not interesting to me at all. In this matter I prefer a design that works. The gate ship doesn't😂 I don't like the name jumper either just like McKay.
Gate Ship lol, you don't get to name anything ever again
Where is the toilet?
The entire rear compartment. The privacy door is the bulkhead. :D
@@UGNAvalon huh i just assumed there wasnt one because the ancients could not build them to withstand firepower of that magnatude
Gate ship
Gate ship.
Disappointed you didn't mention that you can't cloak and go through the stargate
When did this come up?
Pretty sure that's never stated in the show.
For entertainment purposes we always watch the ship cloak and uncloak, but if you think about it, they must be able to otherwise how did they bring three jumpers to the Genii homeworld but the Genii were unaware of two of them being there?